Will Obama be a One-Term President? [Archive] - Talk of The Villages Florida

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08-17-2010, 08:36 AM

I think I got something different out of that article than you did. I mean, especially at the end:

Maybe Obama is disconnected. After all, as a former professor of constitutional law, he actually knows what the Constitution says.

His opponents have no such fetters. They know what they want the Constitution to say: yes to guns, no to gay marriage and never to mosques close to hallowed ground, though churches and synagogues are OK.

What’s so wrong with that? I’ll bet they poll great.

I read a lot of sarcasm in that last line - at least it felt that way to me.

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08-17-2010, 08:41 AM

One can only hope.

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08-17-2010, 08:46 AM

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8abc1c18-a968-11df-a6f2-00144feabdc0.html

His problem is he either does not get it or he could care less whether he gets it or not:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/114569-obama-boasts-of-most-progressive-accomplishments-in-decades

He really does believe all he has to do is go out and charm the same dupes he had the first time around.
He does not get it!!!!!!

Many true words are said in jest or with sarcasm. Either way it portends the direction we are headed....hopefully!!

btk

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08-17-2010, 08:48 AM

I think I got something different out of that article than you did. I mean, especially at the end:

I read a lot of sarcasm in that last line - at least it felt that way to me.

I beg to differ. What I get from Roger Simon's article is that Obama should do what is expedient for the first term and do what is right for the second term.
Seems Mr. Obama cannot get out of the campaign mode and into the president mode.
I also think he should have stayed clear of the mosque issue. I feel that he really thinks people care what he actually thinks. Sometimes one should govern and leave "thoughts" to oneself?

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08-17-2010, 10:46 AM

his racial and religious beliefs. Most of us probably cannot either, however, as POTUS he is expected to do so.

His continual commentary with a next day retraction or the WH team and the media covering him by telling everybody what he really meant.

The man has no executive capability or leadership. That is to be expected he is a lawyer trained politician hence there is no doing what is right, regardless the impact.

As a result he has watered down his campaign-ability of the pre-election caliber.
To go on record on the campaign trail, AGAIN, espousing he has passed legislation unlike any POTUS in decades for the good of the USA.

Empty words as usual on a tele-prompter or speech notes.

btk

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08-17-2010, 11:23 AM

He may get re-elected. Just depends on who the Republicans can put up against him in 2012. Or, maybe, Hillary Clinton will take another shot at the Presidency.

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08-17-2010, 11:45 AM

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08-17-2010, 02:51 PM

If I have to go to ACORN or Move-On.org and get them to help me register to vote 20 times, I'll do my part to see that he doesn't get elected again!!!

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08-17-2010, 03:56 PM

I don't think he has a prayer in 2012. The mode he seems to lack is the American mode. It's fairly obvious he is anti-America. People know that now and the democrats will pay in November and again in 2012.

I am very much someone who did not and does not support this President, but you are way way way too early with that prediction. He also had no chance at the nomination.

Most importantly, the Republican party has a habit of nominating some strange alternatives and the tea party is not going to help in that regard.

Also, please do not underestimate the machine that has been in the making for many years to get out the Democratic vote when neccessary.

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08-17-2010, 04:11 PM

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08-17-2010, 04:17 PM

Republicans need a strong candidate but not as strong as before. Dems will not be able to run against "Bush" again and many moderates are disenfranchised with the direction this regime is heading.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/243995/obama-approval-watch-daniel-foster

To me, and only me....at this time the only viable candidate is Mitt Romney but that is in the now...it is so far away and who knows what happens.

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08-17-2010, 04:26 PM

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08-17-2010, 04:33 PM

Rick Perry in 2012.

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08-17-2010, 04:48 PM

Rick Perry in 2012.

Perry is doing a great job since he took over for Bush as Governor of Texas, so George could become President.

He is pro-life, pro-marriage, he turned down the stimulus money, Air Force Pilot, pro-death penalty, fiscally conservative etc. etc.
Sounds like a solid contender to me. :thumbup:

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08-17-2010, 05:14 PM

Romney is a formidable candidate. Very smart and has tons of executive experience.

I heard in a video where it took 43 presidents 2 centuries to accumulate 5 trillion national dept.
The dept will now double in 5 years and triple in 10 years.

Surely, the republicans can drive that home.

But SOON, they must begin to tell their story on WHAT they can do and HOW they will do it. All that rhetoric is not going to get Republicans elected.

This November, some will be elected just as anti Washington votes, but assuming this thread is on 2012, they better get busy with the issues. Romney is always a man who seems to stay on issues and stays away from the fluff. THAT is what the Republican party AND the country needs !

PS: I might add I tried to start a thread on what to do on the deficit and got no takers. We better soon concentrate on solutions !!! If you read the archives on this forum you will find NOBODY more opposed to this administration, HOWEVER, you will not have an alternative elected with bumper stickers and sayings !

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08-17-2010, 05:17 PM

It will be the GOP's to lose: come up with a viable, intelligent, articulate candidate and they have a shot; come up with a knee-jerk, anti-everything & no positive agenda person and they lose. The GOP has too many retreads continually seeking office...in spite of continual losses. They need a new face...admittedly, I have no specific suggestion at this time.

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08-17-2010, 05:52 PM

I don't think he has a prayer in 2012. The mode he seems to lack is the American mode. It's fairly obvious he is anti-America. People know that now and the democrats will pay in November and again in 2012.

I agree 100%. His biggest interest is his legacy, not what's good for this country. He obviously favors the Muslims. He has a knack for doing opposite what the American public wants. I don't think he doesn't get it, I really think he just doesn't care what the public wants, as he puts himself above everyone else. Just watch him in public and see the arrogance he shows.

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08-17-2010, 06:03 PM

I agree 100%. His biggest interest is his legacy, not what's good for this country. He obviously favors the Muslims. He has a knack for doing opposite what the American public wants. I don't think he doesn't get it, I really think he just doesn't care what the public wants, as he puts himself above everyone else. Just watch him in public and see the arrogance he shows.

Again, I have opposed this President from the beginning but I must say that you are doing EXACTLY what you criticize the Democrats for doing.....I agree they blame everything on Bush and use anti Bush as much as possible, but I ask you to step away a bit and see what is happening right now with the GOP...it is all about anti Obama...fine, but they have to get with it on their plans and stop with all the unfettered rhetoric.

This from an ANTI Obama.....and conservative. I am just saying. The GOP will NOT win in 2012 by simply saying Obama is arrogant, which he is, but that is not an issue and this country needs answers. I do not believe this man or this administration has them because they have their own road map.....but that organization will get out the vote !

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08-17-2010, 06:11 PM

He may get re-elected. Just depends on who the Republicans can put up against him in 2012. Or, maybe, Hillary Clinton will take another shot at the Presidency.

WOW!!! Now there's a potential candidate that would listen to the people and serve them well. Wouldn't that be great!!!! Go Hillary!!!!

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08-17-2010, 06:14 PM

Right now I plan to vote for Obama if he runs in 2012, but it don't look good for him to win again. :duck:

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08-17-2010, 06:16 PM

Again, I have opposed this President from the beginning but I must say that you are doing EXACTLY what you criticize the Democrats for doing.....I agree they blame everything on Bush and use anti Bush as much as possible, but I ask you to step away a bit and see what is happening right now with the GOP...it is all about anti Obama...fine, but they have to get with it on their plans and stop with all the unfettered rhetoric.

This from an ANTI Obama.....and conservative. I am just saying. The GOP will NOT win in 2012 by simply saying Obama is arrogant, which he is, but that is not an issue and this country needs answers. I do not believe this man or this administration has them because they have their own road map.....but that organization will get out the vote !

Well, the anti-Bush campaign got Obama elected, so we steal their playbook and be anti-Obama to get a Republican elected.

Tit for tat.

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08-17-2010, 06:18 PM

I'll stand by my prediction. Obama will loose in 2012 and loose big. Bookmark it.

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08-17-2010, 06:19 PM

Well, the anti-Bush campaign got Obama elected, so we steal their playbook and be anti-Obama to get a Republican elected.

Tit for tat.

Dont count on it. If Obama does not run in 2012, Hillary Clinton probably will and there goes the Right Wing dreams again.:wave:

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08-17-2010, 06:22 PM

Dont count on it. If Obama does not run in 2012, Hillary Clinton probably will and there goes the Right Wing dreams again.:wave:

Not really. Clinton is part of the Obama team, so we'll still run against Obama.

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08-17-2010, 06:47 PM

Well, the anti-Bush campaign got Obama elected, so we steal their playbook and be anti-Obama to get a Republican elected.

Tit for tat.

You are being EXTREMELY naive

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08-17-2010, 06:58 PM

You are being EXTREMELY naive

Explanation requested. How naive was "Hope and Change"?

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08-17-2010, 07:38 PM

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08-17-2010, 08:01 PM

Explanation requested. How naive was "Hope and Change"?

Not sure what you want from me. Even I would abstain from voting if the GOP ticket had a platform of "We hate Obama". That is not going to solve any of the problems facing this country !

Earlier I mentioned Romney and I did so because I think he is a candidate that can keep on message without going to the level you suggest.

Your reference to "hope and change" is somewhat puzzling as I do not have any idea what that statement of yours means.

Listen, I oppose this administration probably more than you...read the archives...I have been insulted, etc because I opposed him, HOWEVER, my country comes first...we need problems solved. This administration is not going to do it.......I want a change...BUT I want that change to have a plan to get this country moving again.....and simply spouting anti Obama slogans is not going to solve any problems !!!

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08-17-2010, 08:03 PM

I think the economy and the jobless rate will be a big determination on election day, just as it was with the Carter defeat. Jimmy Carter was perceived as weak on defense and clueless about the economy. Many compare Obama with Carter.

Now you are talking about THIS November...not 2012 and if you are going to change the subject, I would agree with you that it will be about the economy, but how we do it.....have offered a few suggestions and wondering what you might have !!!

PS: Keep in mind, as pointed out in todays Wall St Journal, the Tea Party movement was born as a protest against the last few years of the Bush administration as well as the beginning of the Obama tenure !

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08-17-2010, 08:16 PM

Not sure what you want from me. Even I would abstain from voting if the GOP ticket had a platform of "We hate Obama". That is not going to solve any of the problems facing this country !

Earlier I mentioned Romney and I did so because I think he is a candidate that can keep on message without going to the level you suggest.

Your reference to "hope and change" is somewhat puzzling as I do not have any idea what that statement of yours means.

Listen, I oppose this administration probably more than you...read the archives...I have been insulted, etc because I opposed him, HOWEVER, my country comes first...we need problems solved. This administration is not going to do it.......I want a change...BUT I want that change to have a plan to get this country moving again.....and simply spouting anti Obama slogans is not going to solve any problems !!!

Look, first things first. Nobody can do anything until Obama and his accomplices are removed from office. This thread was started to speculate whether Obama will be a one or two term president.
I have read many of your posts about Obama's agenda. (at least I think it was you) The first step in helping our country is to get it back on track. Repealing Obamacare, fiscal sanity, restoring our respect abroad, continuing Bush's tax rates etc.,etc. To do that we have to take over congress. Once the Obama damage is under control and reversed, we then can look for his replacement for 2012.
I hope I'm making a little sense?

Guest

08-17-2010, 08:30 PM

Look, first things first. Nobody can do anything until Obama and his accomplices are removed from office. This thread was started to speculate whether Obama will be a one or two term president.
I have read many of your posts about Obama's agenda. (at least I think it was you) The first step in helping our country is to get it back on track. Repealing Obamacare, fiscal sanity, restoring our respect abroad, continuing Bush's tax rates etc.,etc. To do that we have to take over congress. Once the Obama damage is under control and reversed, we then can look for his replacement for 2012.
I hope I'm making a little sense?

Oh I understand......just making the point that he WILL be reelected in 2012 UNLESS the GOP has a plan, and has shown from this November till then (assuming they have a much bigger voice than the Dems) that they can execute a plan.

NOBODY is going to get elected simply by bashing the other guy and while I disagree with almost everything this administration is doing (I tried to tell folks what was going to happen) and want it ousted....WORDS, SLOGANS are not going to accomplish that.

As I said, the Tea Party movement did not spring up JUST because of Obama...it included the last years of the Bush administration and there has to be a change in attitude on the part of the GOP because they simply cannot just throw their hats in the ring and win.

I was the most negative person on this board concerning this guy and his administration and still feel the same way, but NOW there are issues that need to be addressed. At least that is how I feel.......I opposed this guy based on his lack of experience and his training and involvement with questionable characters.

He has shown his inexperience and how he feels based on training and I continue to oppose him, but even those who oppose him have got to credit the left for coming up with a very dynamite campaign and got the voters out. He won because many just did not vote. Do not overlook the power of the organization that has been put together

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08-18-2010, 04:23 AM

Oh I understand......just making the point that he WILL be reelected in 2012 UNLESS the GOP has a plan, and has shown from this November till then (assuming they have a much bigger voice than the Dems) that they can execute a plan.

NOBODY is going to get elected simply by bashing the other guy and while I disagree with almost everything this administration is doing (I tried to tell folks what was going to happen) and want it ousted....WORDS, SLOGANS are not going to accomplish that.

As I said, the Tea Party movement did not spring up JUST because of Obama...it included the last years of the Bush administration and there has to be a change in attitude on the part of the GOP because they simply cannot just throw their hats in the ring and win.

I was the most negative person on this board concerning this guy and his administration and still feel the same way, but NOW there are issues that need to be addressed. At least that is how I feel.......I opposed this guy based on his lack of experience and his training and involvement with questionable characters.

He has shown his inexperience and how he feels based on training and I continue to oppose him, but even those who oppose him have got to credit the left for coming up with a very dynamite campaign and got the voters out. He won because many just did not vote. Do not overlook the power of the organization that has been put together

Wow. Posts like the last three by Bucco has caught my attention. With enough attitudes like this, I will be looking close at my candidate of choice in 2012. Well Said Bucco.

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08-18-2010, 06:35 AM

Oh I understand......just making the point that he WILL be reelected in 2012 UNLESS the GOP has a plan, and has shown from this November till then (assuming they have a much bigger voice than the Dems) that they can execute a plan.

NOBODY is going to get elected simply by bashing the other guy and while I disagree with almost everything this administration is doing (I tried to tell folks what was going to happen) and want it ousted....WORDS, SLOGANS are not going to accomplish that.

As I said, the Tea Party movement did not spring up JUST because of Obama...it included the last years of the Bush administration and there has to be a change in attitude on the part of the GOP because they simply cannot just throw their hats in the ring and win.

I was the most negative person on this board concerning this guy and his administration and still feel the same way, but NOW there are issues that need to be addressed. At least that is how I feel.......I opposed this guy based on his lack of experience and his training and involvement with questionable characters.

He has shown his inexperience and how he feels based on training and I continue to oppose him, but even those who oppose him have got to credit the left for coming up with a very dynamite campaign and got the voters out. He won because many just did not vote. Do not overlook the power of the organization that has been put together

The last years of the Bush administration were run by Democrats.

Obama won because he duped the blacks,latinos and sheep democrats by lying to them with emotional lies.

Obama will not be serving a second term because the liberal machine will not pick him to run. they will pick someone with a better chance of winning; maybe Hillary.

Guest

08-18-2010, 06:48 AM

The last years of the Bush administration were run by Democrats.

Obama won because he duped the blacks,latinos and sheep democrats by lying to them with emotional lies.

Obama will not be serving a second term because the liberal machine will not pick him to run. they will pick someone with a better chance of winning; maybe Hillary.

I agree Cashman but he also received the "guilty white" votes, too. By "guilty" I might be using the wrong word but many whites felt that they should vote for the "first black" candidate and didn't really dig into his background.
My usually conservative sister-in-law voted for him because he "talked good" I kid you not!!!!

Guest

08-18-2010, 08:17 AM

With short-memories and even shorter attention spans to read and understand the issues and comprehend what is happening in this country, I'm afraid the American people will vote more Progressives into office this November and again in 2012.

Progressives come in many shapes and sizes and with many different labels. Whether under the banner of Democrat or Republican, we have to make our best attempt to learn about the candidates' past, present and goals for the future of this country. Learn about what groups support the candidates.

For instance, who supports the Progressive agenda and Obama? I don't agree with the goal or platform of the supporters of the Progressives. The Communist Party USA, the LGBT, SEIU, AFL-CIO, The Open Society Institute, the Progressive Democrats of America, the Congressional Progressive Caucus..what are their beliefs and goals?

The issue, to me at least, isn't Republican or Democrat.

How much more control and freedoms are we willing to give up to the federal government? Obama has an agenda that is spelled out. Do you know what his goals are for these issues? Do you know who will pick up the torch and carry through with this agenda if Obama isn't re-elected?

Guest

08-18-2010, 08:33 AM

I agree that the progressives don't seem to get the kind of "high profile" type of publicity that the two predominant parties receive. They are a major force and have infiltrated all the parties, unions, media etc.,etc.
Sadly, I have brought up the name "progressive" in conversations and many people have no idea what I'm talking about. Name recognition could be a problem?

Guest

08-18-2010, 08:40 AM

Same party! Same agenda!

Most certainly more BUSINESS as usual in Washington.

She has a "baggage" factor loaded with you owe me that will do nothing but compromise a given issue.

The 2008 election was won due to Republican apathy (not voting), Obama lies and false promises and personality (I personally don't see).

We don't need another personality contestant for POTUS. We do not need more of the same in Washington. All one has to do is witness the ongoing disaster created by the 2008 election.

btk

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08-18-2010, 09:38 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_269418&v=AMfUajhL24I&feature=iv

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08-18-2010, 09:52 AM