Math Problem

[retiredguy123]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?

[manaboutown]

I fall asleep in no time. 140% of 0 is still 0 last I heard.

[Dana1963]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?
Just another NON PRESCRIPTION Medication even endorsed by Fabio. SUCKERS BEWARE!

[Stu from NYC]

It takes some amount of time to fall asleep.

I fall asleep pretty quickly but no idea how long it takes, just wake up and know i fell asleep.

Unless you do some sort of scientific study how in the world can this be measured?

[mtdjed]

I'm guessing the product makes you fall asleep 12 minutes before you plan to start to fall asleep. And therefore you were not quite ready to go to sleep . Hoping you are safe. ie not driving

[Art cov]

Lol you might fall asleep 15 min before you want to. You may be sleep walking to get to the bed! Sorry it’s just funny! Take care of those final good things 30 minutes early before normal time 🤗 So if I would’ve taken the pill, you would have been spared this post!!! Goodnight

[jswirs]

I find that, generally, those pills do not work. My advice is, drink a glass of wine before bedtime.

[latotsch]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?

I tried the trial offer for one week (it didn't work for me). They charged my credit card $125 before I used the 30 day trial. Thank goodness my bank denied the charge.

[Cheapbas]

Relaxium sounds like it may do more than just put you asleep.

I assume they are trying to say 100% faster would be twice as fast and additional 40% even more, so for you asleep in about 10 minutes. But it’s so poorly presented it makes me wonder what went into the product. Just up your melatonin. Benadryl would be option 2 and Xanax for extreme sleep issues.

[noslices1]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?

If you take a Relaxium pill, you will “sleep walk” to your bed.

[allsport]

Ashwagandha, Magnesium Citrate, 5HTP, GABA, and Passionflower to help you maintain mental balance These are the ingredients in the medication. Mag citrate is a laxative and the rest are botanicals. Unsure that any will help but your stools should be regular and if you are FOS then maybe you will sleep better.

[Stu from NYC]

Wish these companies had to prove their stuff works before making outlandish claims.

[Fanfaron2020]

Don't depend on responses from this site (albeit legitimate), but Google the product name and check public responses there. Personally, when I need to drift off at night, I take a Non-Aspirin PM night time sleep aid. Give it a go (after you Google it, of course!).

[joseppe]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?

If it takes you 30 minutes to fall asleep normally this product will then enable you to fall asleep in 43 minutes less time. In other words you'll be asleep before you even take the product. In fact you'll be asleep so fast you won't even need to take the product after you've taken the product. Or maybe you need to take the product before you start your timer to see how long it takes you to fall asleep, but you'd be asleep before you could even set the timer. Geezzzz I don't know. Just take it if you want to sleep faster. I'm getting sleepy....

[Girlcopper]

I find that, generally, those pills do not work. My advice is, drink a glass of wine before bedtime.
Drink 3 huge ones. Guaranteed fast sleep

[Tomptomp]

I think 100% faster than 30 minutes is 15 minutes.
Would you not agree. that 100% a slower would be 60 minutes ?

[retiredguy123]

I think 100% faster than 30 minutes is 15 minutes.
Would you not agree. that 100% a slower would be 60 minutes ?
Respectfully, I don't agree that 15 minutes is 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. 15 minutes is 50 percent of 30 minutes, not 100 percent.

[davem4616]

I take melatonin as I get into bed....and I'm asleep pretty quickly

no grogginess in the morning

[bumpygreens]

Confusing math to back an unsubstantiated claim...how 'bout a nice bottle of snake oil to wash that down?

[Stu from NYC]

Drink 3 huge ones. Guaranteed fast sleep

But than mother nature will call within 15 minutes.

[Villages Kahuna]

How is 140% faster than nodding off at the drop of an eyelid an advantage?

And I don’t think I’m alone with having that ability.

[graciegirl]

How is 140% faster than nodding off at the drop of an eyelid an advantage?

And I don’t think I’m alone with having that ability.

My husband goes to sleep when I rehash the days events. sigh.

I use old episodes of House Hunters. Wake up to turn off T.V. and pee. Then I envision old episodes of house hunters. Sometimes worries creep in and nothing works. Or the cat jumps on me.

[geobet]

OMG! You all have way too much time on your hands.

[kanoa1kale2]

Ashwagandha, Magnesium Citrate, 5HTP, GABA, and Passionflower to help you maintain mental balance These are the ingredients in the medication. Mag citrate is a laxative and the rest are botanicals. Unsure that any will help but your stools should be regular and if you are FOS then maybe you will sleep better.

I caught the FOS comment - Still laughing! Good One! One of the chemicals in this is a serotonin reuptake inhibitor similar to paxil and prozac. 5HTP is the one. I wouldn't take any psychoactive chemical unless under a doctors care. When you do online searches for the components of this product and you see very few articles, you can pretty much write it off. I wouldn't be taking it.

[rphil11ort]

Take 30 ÷ 140x 100 = 21.42

[KRM0614]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?
It’s all the same garbage ! They put it in a different bottle it’s melatonin.
Go to Walmart get the ones you can eat tasty and take 20-30mg !
Stop watching infocrap !

[blueash]

Wish these companies had to prove their stuff works before making outlandish claims.

Now there is a useful comment. It used to be that companies had to have evidence to support claims of medical benefit. The requirement was that medications be both safe and effective for OTC sale. And companies could not make a medical claim without support. This rule still exists on paper but there is no enforcement as it has been weakened by allowing weasel words like "supports your immune system" Well sugar is needed by your immune system and I suppose that 5 pound page of sucrose could use that claim.

The requirement for effective still applies to prescription drugs but only safety is required for OTC products that use natural ingredients like leaves and twigs. Additionally there is no requirement for proving safety before marketing. Only if the FDA receives complaints is safety investigated. You can thank the OTC herbal industry and their bought and paid for legislative friends [Orrin Hatch (https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-hatch-20180105-story.html)] for this mess. OTC products with real drugs in them have remained regulated. Homeopathic remedies and herbals are buyer beware.

Reading this comment may improve your mental alertness, support your health, and reduced your risk of being struck by lightning.

[Average Guy]

OMG! You all have way too much time on your hands.

Maybe 140 percent too much time....

[Average Guy]

Respectfully, I don't agree that 15 minutes is 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. 15 minutes is 50 percent of 30 minutes, not 100 percent.

I agree. 15 minutes is 50 percent of 30 minutes. 30 minutes is 100 percent of 15 minutes. Everything gets weird when you try to figure out what 140 percent faster means.

[MandoMan]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?

I find claims of, say, “five times LESS” quite puzzling, and that’s what you are dealing with. Why not say “One fifth the time”? If it takes 100 minutes to fall asleep, it would then take 20 minutes. Easy! If it is five times MORE, then 500. Easy!

I’m not great at math, but I can do lots of fractions in my head, and I know from teaching college that lots of young people can’t do that at all. So, I suspect that lots of people don’t know what 140 percent faster means, and neither do I. They just think, “Oh, that’s a lot” and get out their credit card. Of course, a lot of these claims for medications are rubbish anyway. A company spends a fortune advertising a new product that works—at an exorbitant price—but no better than a much cheaper product that has been around for years.

[bobnyce]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?
I too signed up. But, beware it is an automatic refill scam. If you do not cancel it will continue to come and you will be billed. Then fight for a refund from the company and your credit card company. Call immediately to cancel.

[Stu from NYC]

Now there is a useful comment. It used to be that companies had to have evidence to support claims of medical benefit. The requirement was that medications be both safe and effective for OTC sale. And companies could not make a medical claim without support. This rule still exists on paper but there is no enforcement as it has been weakened by allowing weasel words like "supports your immune system" Well sugar is needed by your immune system and I suppose that 5 pound page of sucrose could use that claim.

The requirement for effective still applies to prescription drugs but only safety is required for OTC products that use natural ingredients like leaves and twigs. Additionally there is no requirement for proving safety before marketing. Only if the FDA receives complaints is safety investigated. You can thank the OTC herbal industry and their bought and paid for legislative friends [Orrin Hatch (https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-hatch-20180105-story.html)] for this mess. OTC products with real drugs in them have remained regulated. Homeopathic remedies and herbals are buyer beware.

Reading this comment may improve your mental alertness, support your health, and reduced your risk of being struck by lightning.

So guess I should only read the last line while indoors during a thunderstorm.

[Stu from NYC]

I too signed up. But, beware it is an automatic refill scam. If you do not cancel it will continue to come and you will be billed. Then fight for a refund from the company and your credit card company. Call immediately to cancel.

Cute when they offer to send you the samples free but you should pay shipping so can we have your cc number.

[sipops]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?

Maybe you can bank the time.

[Velvet]

I really suspect the ad has no idea how fast you fall asleep, but 140% sounds like such a nice figure and if you actually believe it, the pill may be like a placebo and help you to fall asleep because you are expecting to. How are you going to prove them wrong? I drink a small glass of warm milk, take a nice bath and fall asleep 185% faster and more relaxed.

[lindaelane]

I'm a retired math professor and I do agree that 15 minutes can be seen as a 100 percent improvement on 30 minutes. You fell asleep twice as fact. When something doubles it is 100 percent "better" (or worse, depending one what you are measuring). Another way to look at it - you went from -30 to -15, because you are in the negatives while awake - just a different model here, not necessarily the only way to look at it. A lot of this is predicated on how models are set up and which variables are accepted as "initial" and which are considered negative/positive. There are options in how to set up the problem. Relaxium is not telling us their chosen problem set-up.

[retiredguy123]

I'm a retired math professor and I do agree that 15 minutes can be seen as a 100 percent improvement on 30 minutes. You fell asleep twice as fact. When something doubles it is 100 percent "better" (or worse, depending one what you are measuring). Another way to look at it - you went from -30 to -15, because you are in the negatives while awake - just a different model here, not necessarily the only way to look at it. A lot of this is predicated on how models are set up and which variables are accepted as "initial" and which are considered negative/positive. There are options in how to set up the problem. Relaxium is not telling us their chosen problem set-up.
Thanks. I was not a math professor, but I got straight A's in math from grade one through graduate school. To me, doing something "faster" means that you do it in less time than you would normally take to do it. So, the maximum percentage that you can reduce the time is 100 percent, which would mean that you do it in no time at all. But, it is impossible to do anything more than 100 percent faster than you normally take to do it, unless you believe in the concept of negative time. Just my opinion.

[dewilson58]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?


R123.............You R a numbers guy.............140% faster mean you fell asleep on the toilet, the final duty b/4 bed. :faint:


(sorry i'm so late to the thread, drove 13 hours today)

[Stu from NYC]

Thanks. I was not a math professor, but I got straight A's in math from grade one through graduate school. To me, doing something "faster" means that you do it in less time than you would normally take to do it. So, the maximum percentage that you can reduce the time is 100 percent, which would mean that you do it in no time at all. But, it is impossible to do anything more than 100 percent faster than you normally take to do it, unless you believe in the concept of negative time. Just my opinion.

Come back here in say 100 years and suspect you will be able to go back in time.

After all they did do it on Star Trek.

[Tom2172]

Sleep is over rated

[lindaelane]

I completely agree - there is an over-the-counter SSRI in this compound, and the side effects of those chemicals are quite bad for many people. (Big pharma, however, makes huge profits on prescription SSRIs).

I gave more thought to the 140% faster claim. I realized there was a placebo group. So if the placebo group takes and average of 160 minutes to fall asleep and the Relaxium group takes 25 minutes to fall asleep , the "Relaxium Group" was more than twice as fast (twice as fast is "100 percent faster) - in fact, 140% faster. Falling asleep in 30 minutes would have been twice as fast compared to falling asleep in 60 mintues, but the "Relaxium Group" exceeded that.

[retiredguy123]

I completely agree - there is an over-the-counter SSRI in this compound, and the side effects of those chemicals are quite bad for many people. (Big pharma, however, makes huge profits on prescription SSRIs).

I gave more thought to the 140% faster claim. I realized there was a placebo group. So if the placebo group takes and average of 160 minutes to fall asleep and the Relaxium group takes 25 minutes to fall asleep , the "Relaxium Group" was more than twice as fast (twice as fast is "100 percent faster) - in fact, 140% faster. Falling asleep in 30 minutes would have been twice as fast compared to falling asleep in 60 mintues, but the "Relaxium Group" exceeded that.
I guess if you define "twice as fast" as the same as "100 percent faster", then you are correct.

But, I would define "100 percent faster" as zero time and "twice as fast" as being "50 percent faster". 160 minutes x 0.5 = 80 minutes. So, 80 minutes is 50 percent faster than 160 minutes.

[deestatham@aol.com]

I saw a commercial on television today for a product called Relaxium. They say that it will help you fall asleep. And, it will make you fall asleep 140 percent faster if you use the product. Can someone please tell me what that means? If you normally fall asleep in 30 minutes, how long will it take to fall asleep when using the product? It seems to me that, if you fall asleep in no time, that would be 100 percent faster than 30 minutes. So, how can you fall asleep any faster than that?


I want to know how it knows when to stop making you sleep. Kinda like a thermos can keep things hot or cold. HOW DO IT KNOW😂😂😂😂

[PugMom]

Wish these companies had to prove their stuff works before making outlandish claims.

ikr! i asked my dr rizzi about some of the claims. he said most of the time it's a sales pitch for something no more powerful than vitamins. if i need to fall asleep, put on public tv, lol. no loud ads & most of the time the content is so slow paced, i drop off in minutes

[Stu from NYC]

ikr! i asked my dr rizzi about some of the claims. he said most of the time it's a sales pitch for something no more powerful than vitamins. if i need to fall asleep, put on public tv, lol. no loud ads & most of the time the content is so slow paced, i drop off in minutes

For me soccer or golf will work

[Marshaw]

After you buy it let us all know how it works and how much$$$$

[chet2020]

Now there is a useful comment. It used to be that companies had to have evidence to support claims of medical benefit. The requirement was that medications be both safe and effective for OTC sale. And companies could not make a medical claim without support. This rule still exists on paper but there is no enforcement as it has been weakened by allowing weasel words like "supports your immune system" Well sugar is needed by your immune system and I suppose that 5 pound page of sucrose could use that claim.

The requirement for effective still applies to prescription drugs but only safety is required for OTC products that use natural ingredients like leaves and twigs. Additionally there is no requirement for proving safety before marketing. Only if the FDA receives complaints is safety investigated. You can thank the OTC herbal industry and their bought and paid for legislative friends [Orrin Hatch (https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-hatch-20180105-story.html)] for this mess. OTC products with real drugs in them have remained regulated. Homeopathic remedies and herbals are buyer beware.

Reading this comment may improve your mental alertness, support your health, and reduced your risk of being struck by lightning.

All of the above is correct. In addition, supplements (homeopathic remedies, herbals, etc.) also are unregulated in terms of content. The NY AG tested random supplements in 2015. 80% of the products contained ZIP ZERO of the supplement claimed on the label. In other words, the ginseng capsule contained zero ginseng. St. John's Wort, nothing. Echinacea - you guessed it. Good money to be made stuffing grass clippings into a capsule and calling it ginseng.

A.G. Schneiderman Asks Major Retailers To Halt Sales Of Certain Herbal Supplements As DNA Tests Fail To Detect Plant Materials Listed On Majority Of Products Tested | New York State Attorney General (https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2015/ag-schneiderman-asks-major-retailers-halt-sales-certain-herbal-supplements-dna)

[Stu from NYC]

All of the above is correct. In addition, supplements (homeopathic remedies, herbals, etc.) also are unregulated in terms of content. The NY AG tested random supplements in 2015. 80% of the products contained ZIP ZERO of the supplement claimed on the label. In other words, the ginseng capsule contained zero ginseng. St. John's Wort, nothing. Echinacea - you guessed it. Good money to be made stuffing grass clippings into a capsule and calling it ginseng.

A.G. Schneiderman Asks Major Retailers To Halt Sales Of Certain Herbal Supplements As DNA Tests Fail To Detect Plant Materials Listed On Majority Of Products Tested | New York State Attorney General (https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2015/ag-schneiderman-asks-major-retailers-halt-sales-certain-herbal-supplements-dna)

Look at the good side. If any of the ingredients listed above were harmful you would not be harmed as not in the product.:bigbow: