The least desirable areas in The Villages

[FG111]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Oh wonderful idea , let’s just all thrash other people’s neighborhoods

[PugMom]

each area, including the 'less desireable' ones have a charm of their own. if the home isn't 'perfect' there may still be some lovely areas surrounding it. it's all how you look @ it, and quite possibly, a matter of taste. our area is beautiful to us, but some think it's impossible to live here & still be part of the villages.

[davem4616]

Oh wonderful idea , let’s just all thrash other people’s neighborhoods

great response


This is either a very bold or a very stupid question by the OP

given that we don't seem to know what his values are beyond elite exclusivity and money is the yardstick for success it's hard to tell

Every Village has it's positives and it's drawbacks...just depends upon what you're looking for.

[Velvet]

Least desirable is very personal, I guess to me it would be where your neighbors are the least considerate. Just think for example, how much that would count during Covid or any other disaster when we need to rely on each other. I know some neighbors will move, but not all. Before buying I was very careful to check out the neighborhood, the local pool, anything I would regularly use. I am glad I did. My neighbors are the best!

Almost everyone has a dog, for example. And somehow, none of the dogs visit my lawn. There was a puppy that used to wake me up -maybe three days in a row. When I walked around the block I saw the owner, a recent widow, and the little guy. She had a bit of difficulty controlling his barking, but after 3 days I never heard the puppy again. There are many more examples of my wonderful neighbors. In my opinion that is what makes up a desirable neighborhood.

[Bjeanj]

Based on OP’s previous posts, my impression is they are:
A) either going about trying to find a place to live in the wrong way, or
B) trying to stir the pot and cause bad feelings.

That’s only my perception, but the OP should take notice This is the impression they are making.

[John41]

Anywhere near a country club where apartments will be built. So far anywhere within view of The Tenements of Hacienda Hills.
Also within earshot of the trains or turnpike.
Also near a border road of The Villages where criminals can hop over the fence and escape quickly.
Legit question don’t know why the snarky responses

[EdFNJ]

Anywhere near a country club where apartments will be built. So far anywhere within view of The Tenements of Hacienda Hills.
Also within earshot of the trains or turnpike.
Also near a border road of The Villages where criminals can hop over the fence and escape quickly.
Legit question don’t know why the snarky responses
Because your responses while excellent didn't seem to be the intent of his question OR it was just poorly expressed. He mentioned "exclusive areas" then asked "which areas aren't so great." Hopefully the latter.

[Mrprez]

Anywhere near a country club where apartments will be built. So far anywhere within view of The Tenements of Hacienda Hills.
Also within earshot of the trains or turnpike.
Also near a border road of The Villages where criminals can hop over the fence and escape quickly.
Legit question don’t know why the snarky responses

So, most any area that backs up to Morse or Buena Vista?

[billethkid]

Seems like a balance question to offset the prior best places to live thread.

The question in practicality is not very answerable.....more the beauty is in the eye of the beholder aspect.

For example, we can talk all day long about why not to live near the turnpike......yet there are thousands of people who live along our nation's interstates.....now including TV....probably most who have opinions about why not do not live there.

To each his own....including opinions.

[vintageogauge]

To me the least desirable would be anywhere near a wastewater treatment plant or a pickle ball court. There than that all of the villages have something great to offer. You can pick your home and your villages but you can't pick your neighbors, that is luck of the draw.

[FG111]

Once again, I'm not trying to upset anyone and I sincerely apologize if anyone takes my question in a negative manner, but even in the most exclusive areas here in The Villages, there are areas which need attention. It appears to "ME" that a lot of resources are being placed in the southern end and "SOME" parts of the northern end would benefit from some TLC such as the dog park near Spanish Springs. Thanks

[justjim]

To me the least desirable would be anywhere near a wastewater treatment plant or a pickle ball court. There than that all of the villages have something great to offer. You can pick your home and your villages but you can't pick your neighbors, that is luck of the draw.

Excellent post. You might add “excessive noise” to that from heavy traveled roads and shopping areas. Some houses on golf courses close to cart paths and subject to being hit by golf balls could be annoying too.

[Velvet]

To me the least desirable would be anywhere near a wastewater treatment plant or a pickle ball court. There than that all of the villages have something great to offer. You can pick your home and your villages but you can't pick your neighbors, that is luck of the draw.

You can check out your future neighbors. Some may move but not all and the tone of the neighborhood is largely set by most neighbors. I know it is easier to find where the turnpike is or the waste plant but if you really want to find a desirable place you put in the effort. Up north I had to sell a house because of a very aggressive neighbor. The new owner can’t sell that house now because the aggressive person makes it very difficult. Because we have more cohesion in TV I’d get all my neighbors together to run such an aggressive person out.

[6Chloe4myamae]

I believe your answer is fair and information al. So many people take offense where it was not intended. Maybe the question could have been worded differently.

[John41]

So, most any area that backs up to Morse or Buena Vista?

I was thinking more along border roads like those in the Village of Caroline where there were a rash of burglaries a few years ago. I should have said perimeter roads to be more clear.

[bumpygreens]

Personally, I'd avoid the Village of Polo Field. Security people come knocking on your tent day and night. And the worst part is all the guys on horseback who don't even stop to clean up after their pet.

[dhsmith]

Personally I think the taxes are higher in Marion County and the Villages has little control over what happens in Marion county.The flip side homes tend to sell for a little less in Marion County.All the streets in Marion County are private except for Buena Vista Blvd.That means the residents are on the hook for the maintenance.On the plus side they have beautiful big trees. We have lived up in the northern section, central section and now live in the eastern section and we have found them all to be great..
Bob

[John41]

You can check out your future neighbors. Some may move but not all and the tone of the neighborhood is largely set by most neighbors. I know it is easier to find where the turnpike is or the waste plant but if you really want to find a desirable place you put in the effort. Up north I had to sell a house because of a very aggressive neighbor. The new owner can’t sell that house now because the aggressive person makes it very difficult. Because we have more cohesion in TV I’d get all my neighbors together to run such an aggressive person out.

Very good point. People we know bought sight unseen a lot on the villages perimeter only to find destructive neighbors with kids on the other side of the wall ( outside the villages) who would throw things into their yard. They were seasonal villagers and found all kinds of junk in their yard when they returned.

[Ladygolfer93]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

I have friends who are extremely sorry they bought near the high school. They knew all schools have traffic, and it was not a major thing for them, but NEVER did they even think about the sporting events of each of the seasons, with the BRIGHT lights on, the LOUD SPEAKERS announcing the plays of the game, etc. There are others who don't care, they simply stay off their lanai on game days and nights, they pull down the shades when the very bright lights shine into their bedroom, etc. Have some friends who had no idea how near their home was to busy railroad tracks, they are now used to waking up when the trains go through and don't even become fully awake, it's just a part of 3 a/m and they immediately go back to sleep. Others in the neighborhood have never gotten used to it, same for some whose homes back to the tennis or pickle ball courts. It drives some people nearly insane to hear the "plunk" of the balls beginning early in the morning, others are so used to it they can go back to sleep. Those are some places some (not all) people do not want to live by. Fire houses here are pretty much set apart (visually), but some neighbors are never able to adjust to the sirens that can of course go off at any hours. Some people do not mind at all living in the houses very close to the squares, others just can't bare that it is nearly every night of the year (before the virus of course, quiet now) and finally just move. Some are fine living on the golf courses, for others it is a constant irritation and sometimes there is an accident to a window, screen, roof, etc. It happens ! Some don't mind a location some distance from restaurants and stores, hardware, salons, etc. others want to be within a few blocks at most (in other words, a quick golf cart ride, not a car trip, to go to vet, dentist, etc. Choose carefully, and do what you have already done when you looked over the dog park and didn't like your first impression. If your home backs to a family rec center, and your retirement dream is not hearing the joyful laughing and screaming of children having fun, then that location would not be for you. If you are by a 21 and over neighborhood pool, you'll probably hear very little, if any, sounds. Others will probably be able to add other things you should look for an consider in accordance to YOU and YOUR personality and what you want to live with day to day. If people in your yard, looking for golf balls (even though it is clearly posted this is forbidden!), will keep you in a constant state of irritation or down right anger, why choose that location ? On the other hand, if you are the type to walk off your lanai, hand them a beer or lemonade, and help them look, then it would be a great place for you right on one of the courses. You'll make many friends and enjoy yourself and your home !

[graciegirl]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

I wonder if that is under control of the AAC or the CCD. When the group sued a certain area North is now controlled differently than the rest of us. I bet if you google you can see who is in charge.

I do know that what some find desirable others do not. The price and the size of lots and the mature landscaping is a desirable draw to the areas near Orange Blossom and Country Club Hills. Other people want brand spankin' new. Our homes lanai in back is West facing and we love the sunsets but others don't like the heat. I believe who lives near you and who you become friends will color your opinion of what you like about The Villages. Also it is hard to begin life anew in a new place and we really do have a lot of groups of different "cultures" here that were raised a bit differently than other groups. People from the Midwest and people from the Burroughs of New York City have a lot to share with each other.

I really find all areas have lovely charm.

[westernrider75]

Curious what village you live in. We are just now buying and have dogs. We bought in Monarch Grove.

[vintageogauge]

Excellent post. You might add “excessive noise” to that from heavy traveled roads and shopping areas. Some houses on golf courses close to cart paths and subject to being hit by golf balls could be annoying too.

Yes, I lived on a golf course for 13 years and will never do that again.

[gatorbill1]

Next door to anyone who fly any political flag or sign

[Carla B]

I'd avoid any neighborhood that empties out onto Morse, north of 466, without the help of a traffic light. You could die of old age...oh wait, probably will anyway.

[Madelaine Amee]

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

Any suggestions appreciated.


My suggestion to you would be to stay way away from a golft cart cut through path from one village to another. I had no idea what that was when I purchased here, unfortunately I found ou I was living on one. The problem with living on a golf cart path cut through is it brings massive amounts of traffic from all over the area through your village. It should not be a problem, but it is. We find villagers who do not live in the neighborhood hae no respect for your property, they throw their trash on your yards, they speed through to get to where they need to be. On the other hand my neighbors who live in this village treat the area with respect and as their home and not a by-pass route.

[Stu from NYC]

My suggestion to you would be to stay way away from a golft cart cut through path from one village to another. I had no idea what that was when I purchased here, unfortunately I found ou I was living on one. The problem with living on a golf cart path cut through is it brings massive amounts of traffic from all over the area through your village. It should not be a problem, but it is. We find villagers who do not live in the neighborhood hae no respect for your property, they throw their trash on your yards, they speed through to get to where they need to be. On the other hand my neighbors who live in this village treat the area with respect and as their home and not a by-pass route.

Put up a toll booth with a big gate.

[Marathon Man]

Once again, I'm not trying to upset anyone and I sincerely apologize if anyone takes my question in a negative manner, but even in the most exclusive areas here in The Villages, there are areas which need attention. It appears to "ME" that a lot of resources are being placed in the southern end and "SOME" parts of the northern end would benefit from some TLC such as the dog park near Spanish Springs. Thanks

The company that is building in the southern area does not supply resources for existing areas. That comes from the residents, and is handled by the various boards made up of elected officials.

[Mleeja]

Once again, I'm not trying to upset anyone and I sincerely apologize if anyone takes my question in a negative manner, but even in the most exclusive areas here in The Villages, there are areas which need attention. It appears to "ME" that a lot of resources are being placed in the southern end and "SOME" parts of the northern end would benefit from some TLC such as the dog park near Spanish Springs. Thanks

I think you need to understand the working of The Villages a bit more. Obviously the southern end of The Villages look newer because they are. The dog park you keep referencing is in the one of the original sections of The Villages. This area is 30 - 40 years old. If you failed to notice, the park is in a grove of very large oak trees. It is difficult to maintain nice grassy areas with all the shade. The dog park is closed routinely for maintenance. It may not be as nice as the newer parks in the southern parts of The Villages, but it is maintained. I bet there are not many of us that can say we look as good now as we did 30 years ago.

The area where the dog park is located is called Paradise Park. Just within the last few years a terrific walking path was installed, the softball and archery fields redone and new pagoda built on the lake. This park is a great place to go on a hot summer’s day and enjoy the cooling shade.

The recreation center is slated to be rebuilt within the next couple of years and one of the executive golf courses updated. The AAC is doing a good job in making sure this part of The Villages is well taken care of.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I don't think the dog park's condition has ANY impact on the homes on that side of 441. Mostly because there aren't any homes immediately adjacent to it; the closest home to it has a parking lot and a golf cart path between the two. Even wearing prescription glasses you don't be able to tell what the condition of the dog park is in, from the back window of that house.

I think that very specific area is more impacted by whoever has put the toilet outside on their car port with a "Flush [political candidate]" hand-written with really bad, uneven handwriting with magic marker on it. If that isn't the very description of tacky, I don't know what is. That would be one of the "areas" I would consider least desireable. I would absolutely not want to live next door to that person, no matter what name they had on that sign. It's trashy and low-rent, and I like to think I have higher standards than that.

I'd also think any area that backs up to those huge electric towers would be less desireable (though not least desireable).

For me personally, the courtyard villas are all on the lower end of "desireable" to me. While I love the idea of privacy, I hate the idea of claustrophobia. I don't want to look out my window and see a wall, even if there's a nice little wading pool and jacuzzi between me and the wall.

I also feel that homes more than a 10-minute golf cart drive to the nearest store would be on the low end of desireable.

[perrjojo]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heav rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

The Paradise dog Park is heavily shaded. Grass will not grow there. The only undesirable neighborhoods are when you get the unfortunate draw of an obnoxious neighbor.

[FG111]

Curious what village you live in. We are just now buying and have dogs. We bought in Monarch Grove.
Greetings-
We live near The Everglades Recreation Center and both dog parks which are in the southern section of The Villages by the Everglades Rec Center are lovely and I'm confident that your little ones will not be disappointed. Welcome to The Villages!!!

[Velvet]

If you already brought why would you care which areas are more or less????

Trying to determine whether or not it was the best decision? I don’t know about OP, but I’m learning a lot from this thread.

[Nucky]

Way back when we were looking for our first home in The Villages a simple remark about Train Noise or something similar would be published once in a while. It jaded us against several Villages and I wish I had never seen those posts in a way.

People at one time ripped the houses on the other side of The Pike. Have you noticed how that has decreased enormously?

Less desirable areas of this operation either have a neighbor story or a buyer who didn't do their due diligence before buying. The real answer for the OP will have to be found by them on their own IMHO.

[Niferlou06]

Wow, not sure you asked the correct question, and if you did...the neighborhood you are looking for is not mine!

[Rwirish]

Several people say South of 44 is the most undesirable.

[Dgodin]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.
The dog park is heavily used hence it's condition. I believe people like that it is shaded. Most TV dog parks are not.

[Mrprez]

Several people say South of 44 is the most undesirable.

It’s awful down here, you people north of 44 stay where you are.

[mydavid]

Anywhere near a country club where apartments will be built. So far anywhere within view of The Tenements of Hacienda Hills.
Also within earshot of the trains or turnpike.
Also near a border road of The Villages where criminals can hop over the fence and escape quickly.
Legit question don’t know why the snarky responses Welcome to the real world of pets, traffic, trains, and other people.:icon_wink:

[Kgcetm]

The Villages spend large sums of money on dog parks. Two were just closed for a few days for work and refurbishment. I believe the budget for the parks exceeds 200k. Owners are still responsible for picking up their dogs poop. Many don’t.

[MandoMan]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

While no one seems willing to say this, the “Historic Side” of The Villages across the highway from Spanish Springs is generally considered the least desirable. They were built with quite a different style of architecture, and perhaps a lower quality of construction, and a lot of them have carports instead of garages. They are older, and they haven’t all been as well kept-up.

On the other hand, they have a lot more mature trees and shade, and they tend to be substantially cheaper. I’ve talked to people who live there who say the people there are much more relaxed and have more fun together. Some have been there thirty years and are close-knit.

There are a lot of people here who have a bit of a fixation on “new” and figure that if their homes are older than eight or ten years old, they ought to buy a new one. I find this amusing, but so it goes. I’d say some of the best deals and lowest costs per square foot are in the Historic Side. Go on Zillow and have a look.

We all have our tastes. I like the idea of a courtyard with privacy and don’t like sitting on a back patio looking at neighbors across a little piece of grass. (It might be difficult if all those neighbors were my pals.) There are a number of variations in home layout by village to drive to set them apart from other villages. What is perfect for your furnishings or needs may differ from who someone else needs.

[NotGolfer]

This is a retirement community and folks come from ALL income levels. You could live next to a well-off person in the "historical side" where many of the homes are manufactured but that's changing---gradually. You could purchase in areas where "premier" homes are built but does that put you in THE most desireable area?? Not sure what your two posts mean. When I was growing up---our town had an area where many of the "professional" people lived---ie. doctors, lawyers, dentists, bankers etc. It had the reputation of being THE high end area, though there were people living there that didn't 'fit' in that description (by fit, I mean people labeling). I don't know of any special area here other than the "compound" where the developer and others live. As was suggested in the first thread you'd posted---perhaps you need to speak with someone in the sales and marketing office to determine "if" The Villages is a good fit for you. I will add that we're all created equal with each of us putting our clothing on, one leg at a time.

[La lamy]

I have friends who are extremely sorry they bought near the high school. They knew all schools have traffic, and it was not a major thing for them, but NEVER did they even think about the sporting events of each of the seasons, with the BRIGHT lights on, the LOUD SPEAKERS announcing the plays of the game, etc. There are others who don't care, they simply stay off their lanai on game days and nights, they pull down the shades when the very bright lights shine into their bedroom, etc. Have some friends who had no idea how near their home was to busy railroad tracks, they are now used to waking up when the trains go through and don't even become fully awake, it's just a part of 3 a/m and they immediately go back to sleep. Others in the neighborhood have never gotten used to it, same for some whose homes back to the tennis or pickle ball courts. It drives some people nearly insane to hear the "plunk" of the balls beginning early in the morning, others are so used to it they can go back to sleep. Those are some places some (not all) people do not want to live by. Fire houses here are pretty much set apart (visually), but some neighbors are never able to adjust to the sirens that can of course go off at any hours. Some people do not mind at all living in the houses very close to the squares, others just can't bare that it is nearly every night of the year (before the virus of course, quiet now) and finally just move. Some are fine living on the golf courses, for others it is a constant irritation and sometimes there is an accident to a window, screen, roof, etc. It happens ! Some don't mind a location some distance from restaurants and stores, hardware, salons, etc. others want to be within a few blocks at most (in other words, a quick golf cart ride, not a car trip, to go to vet, dentist, etc. Choose carefully, and do what you have already done when you looked over the dog park and didn't like your first impression. If your home backs to a family rec center, and your retirement dream is not hearing the joyful laughing and screaming of children having fun, then that location would not be for you. If you are by a 21 and over neighborhood pool, you'll probably hear very little, if any, sounds. Others will probably be able to add other things you should look for an consider in accordance to YOU and YOUR personality and what you want to live with day to day. If people in your yard, looking for golf balls (even though it is clearly posted this is forbidden!), will keep you in a constant state of irritation or down right anger, why choose that location ? On the other hand, if you are the type to walk off your lanai, hand them a beer or lemonade, and help them look, then it would be a great place for you right on one of the courses. You'll make many friends and enjoy yourself and your home !

Very good summary!

[Ldogg21]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Any well maintained neighborhood, with a house that meets your needs, with friendly neighbors is the most desirable. Just the opposite for least desirable.

[giorgio1948]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Read all the books on TV & then rent for a year. You will THEN make up your own mind...seek and thy shall find ~

[retiredguy123]

I think the least desirable area would be on a street, south of 44, where the houses back up to the Florida Turnpike. I'm surprised that the developer even built houses that close to a major highway.

[Nick B]

Oh wonderful idea , let’s just all thrash other people’s neighborhoods
Y'all do it all the time.1st question where do You live? There is very much a class divide in TV.

[Villagesgal]

Why not just get in your car and drive around and see what areas appeal to you? Honestly wouldn't that work out best for you since no one but you knows what you find appealing and what you find appalling.

[tophcfa]

Based on what’s happening at Hacienda Hills, it is not desirable to live anywhere near land owned by the developer, regardless of how the land is CURRENTLY zoned.

[gregcharlesnelson@gmail]

We're really happy up here Forsyth Villas. All the pluses, Mulberry sport pool, pickleball -not too close to hear. Golf course and water view, with the cart path on the other side. 2 minutes to Publix, postal station, next to bank, gas etc. one minute out of TV too!

[BostonRich]

Greetings-
I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

They did. They did a bunch of research and even had someone come out and measure for artificial turf (I think it was $104,000). The trees make it impossible for grass to grow but keep it really much cooler in the summer so it's a very nice spot for spending time with your dog.

After much deliberation they settled on putting in some sprinklers and tried to grow grass. It lasted about a month. Total waste of money.

I suggested they replace the dirt with sand. Do you think there may be some sand around here? The sand would be cleaner and allow quick drainage. The dogs could run and play and fall in it without getting hurt. They could even dig in it and it would be easy to just fill the holes back in with the rake. You can easily find the poop and the pee would just drain through.

I thought it was a great alternative but . . .

[PugMom]

Several people say South of 44 is the most undesirable.

yeah, see? this is what i was referring to. some dislike this area just because of where it is, and the effort put into building here. is all a matter of taste & opinion

[graciegirl]

Y'all do it all the time.1st question where do You live? There is very much a class divide in TV.

It depends on how you look at things. I always thought that question was posed just as a conversation lull breaker. What do you say? I say; "We started out in Hadley, but we moved to a little bigger house when we decided to live here full time. There are three of us you know. Have you met our sweet daughter, Helene?".

It is only a "class divide" if that is how you look at things and how you value things.

[manaboutown]

In my experience fellow Villagers care little about where one resides within TV or even what one did to earn a living. They care about what a person is like now, whether one likes to golf and so on. It is about as egalitarian as it gets here.

[Mrprez]

I think the least desirable area would be on a street, south of 44, where the houses back up to the Florida Turnpike. I'm surprised that the developer even built houses that close to a major highway.

Me too, they are really close. However, our agent told us of one couple who we’re moving down from NJ and wanted a noisy street. Seems their previous house backed up to the NJ Turnpike and they wanted the same noise. To each their own.

[JoeinFL]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

I’ve only been here a couple of years.(south of 44) But, every time I drive through different neighborhoods or travel the main roads, I’m reminded how beautiful this area is.
The landscaping is beautiful whether you’re in the new areas down south or the original areas up north.

The Village’s isn’t like an inner city and someone lives on “the other side of the tracks.”
Each and every area has it’s appeal. But, that’s just my opinion.
If you can’t find a home or area that suits your needs, maybe you should consider looking in Boca Raton.
Just sayin’.
:)

[justjim]

It depends on how you look at things. I always thought that question was posed just as a conversation lull breaker. What do you say? I say; "We started out in Hadley, but we moved to a little bigger house when we decided to live here full time. There are three of us you know. Have you met our sweet daughter, Helene?".

It is only a "class divide" if that is how you look at things and how you value things.

Excellent post. I’ve often thought asking someone where they are from, what Village they live in and maybe what they did before retirement was just kind of “getting to know you better” questions. Anyone offended by this to me either has an inferiority complex, just unfriendly or “mine your own business” type of folks. Which by the way - is okay too. We have found the overwhelming majority of Villagers, interesting, intelligent, and friendly. OP, good luck in your efforts to due diligence prior to purchasing in The Villages.

[Spikearoni]

Next door to anyone who fly any political flag or sign

We live in a beautiful area of premiere homes. Our home is situated on a cul de sac toward the end of the street. We absolutely love our location as it is picture perfect and very quiet. There is no traffic, there are no pickleball courts, and no trains. However, we are surrounded by neighbors who have political flags on their lawns. We are hopeful that the flags will come down after 11/3 so that our little street no longer looks like a baseball stadium! My point is that sometimes you just don't know what you might encounter when you relocate. Try to minimize the negatives by doing your homework and then say a prayer or cross your fingers. Good luck:)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

While no one seems willing to say this, the “Historic Side” of The Villages across the highway from Spanish Springs is generally considered the least desirable. They were built with quite a different style of architecture, and perhaps a lower quality of construction, and a lot of them have carports instead of garages. They are older, and they haven’t all been as well kept-up.

On the other hand, they have a lot more mature trees and shade, and they tend to be substantially cheaper. I’ve talked to people who live there who say the people there are much more relaxed and have more fun together. Some have been there thirty years and are close-knit.



Just to clarify: it wasn't "low quality" construction. They were (and most still are) high-quality mobile homes. The original area of the Villages, east of 441, started as a luxury retirement trailer park community.

A small bunch of the single-wides are still there, though they've been renovated a few times over the years. Some of those, really should be rolled out and replaced with something a little more modern, but most of them are still in liveable condition. The rest of the homes here are mostly double-wides and modular homes, all manufactured elsewhere and rolled in and placed here. There are also a few handsful of site-built homes, some of which are rather luxurious.

Our deed restrictions are not as restrictive as those in other parts of the Villages, but we still do have restrictions. Such as - no fencing, you still have to get any construction work approved by the architectural committee, sprinkler systems can only be run x minutes and only on y and z days (depending on the neighborhood), abandoned vehicles not allowed, RVs can't be set up an used more than a couple of days (such as visiting relatives or transferring your stuff from the RV to the house), etc.

There are more restrictions than that, but most of it is a matter of friendly, gentle, inclusive peer pressure to encourage new neighbors to maintain a semblance of a tranquil setting. You won't see cars on cinderblocks. Why not? Because you don't want to risk alienating some of the nicest neighbors you'll ever have in your life, that's why not.

[popbaby2]

Yes, I lived on a golf course for 13 years and will never do that again.

I live on a golf course and its fabulous. No carts on the side i am on. On the far side of green of a par 3 - no balls breaking into screening yet after 5 years. Love it!

[jimjamuser]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.
In Florida the, so-called, dirt is mostly sand. So there is little clay to make "mud" - like people from "up north" are used to. You will find some black dirt "mud", without clay, in low, swampy areas and along some parts of lakes. At the SS dog park, there are high ridges and few, if any low spots that do not DRAIN well. So, you won't have any problem walking around as long as you avoid the dogs digestive end-products. You can also walk a dog near the Silver Springs golf course.

[Bogie Shooter]

In Florida the, so-called, dirt is mostly sand. So there is little clay to make "mud" - like people from "up north" are used to. You will find some black dirt "mud", without clay, in low, swampy areas and along some parts of lakes. At the SS dog park, there are high ridges and few, if any low spots that do not DRAIN well. So, you won't have any problem walking around as long as you avoid the dogs digestive end-products. You can also walk a dog near the Silver Springs golf course.
Where is the Silver Springs golf course?

[jimjamuser]

Where is the Silver Springs golf course?
Sorry my bad, my brain got more senile than usual. It is the Silver Lake golf course that I was thinking about. It is a few miles south of Orange Blossom.

[Oceanend]

McClure will be the middle of the villages in 5 years!!

[JoMar]

The most desirable is where you live, the most undesirable is where everyone else lives :)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Sorry my bad, my brain got more senile than usual. It is the Silver Lake golf course that I was thinking about. It is a few miles south of Orange Blossom.

It's less than a mile away. And yeah I keep saying "Silver Springs" whenever I'm thinking of "Silver Lake" because I've known the Fleetwood Mac song a lot longer than I've known about the Villages. It's just a brain-fert :)

[big guy]

Once again, I'm not trying to upset anyone and I sincerely apologize if anyone takes my question in a negative manner, but even in the most exclusive areas here in The Villages, there are areas which need attention. It appears to "ME" that a lot of resources are being placed in the southern end and "SOME" parts of the northern end would benefit from some TLC such as the dog park near Spanish Springs. Thanks

The new areas are going to look a little different from the older areas. So don't go to that dog park, there are others. We all like to think we live in exclusive areas. The Villages works hard to keep the grounds looking great. They have been replacing shrubs and trees recently in common areas.....oops, maybe "COMMON" is a bad word for you. Look up and read Harold Schwartz's goal and wish for The Villages.

[Lottoguy]

Being right nextdoor to a pickleball court would do it for me.

[graciegirl]

The most desirable is where you live, the most undesirable is where everyone else lives :)

OR. The least desirable areas are written about by people who do not live here, some who live nearby and don't like us, or who by those who are promoting other areas, or are just plain envious of those living in this wonderful place that even in lockdown is beautiful and wonderful.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

According to the wife, the least desirable places are where one can see the power corridor or smell the treatment facilities from their homesite. I would add that villages with sinkhole histories are undesirable as well.

[Red White & Blue]

It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Could be that Acid-Dog-Pee kills grass but dog owners do not think so.... :popcorn:

[bilcon]

Only caution I would make would be: Don't ever buy where there is vacant land between your house and a major road. ie 466, 466A etc. You might wake up and find a 3 story assisted living or apartment, or office building in your backyard. Just look what happened along 466A or Powell Road. As far as golf front property, we live on 150' of golf front, near the golf cart path, and except for the few rude golfers, most wave and are very friendly. I would never give up the view. Sunsets every night, wide open spaces, wildlife etc. We are enjoying the good live at TV.

[wisbad1]

Oh wonderful idea , let’s just all thrash other people’s neighborhoods
Go look at Lake Miona Bridgeport, million dollar homes, lawns are unkept, not all but a lot. Weeds taking over landscaping. Sad

[doctorknow]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Paradise dog park has been resodded and reseeded many times in the eight years I have been here. Unfortunately due to the trees and the shade with the high use area the grass doesn't stand a chance of staying. I am not sure about the sprinkler system (or lack thereof) there but that may be another issue. With the FEW dog parks we have in this growing metropolis just be thankful we have that one.....with shade by the way. Atlas dog park has good grass and is well maintained with overseeding bare spots BUT it is in the HOT sun. So there are pros and cons for each park.

[tophcfa]

Only caution I would make would be: Don't ever buy where there is vacant land between your house and a major road. ie 466, 466A etc. You might wake up and find a 3 story assisted living or apartment, or office building in your backyard. Just look what happened along 466A or Powell Road. As far as golf front property, we live on 150' of golf front, near the golf cart path, and except for the few rude golfers, most wave and are very friendly. I would never give up the view. Sunsets every night, wide open spaces, wildlife etc. We are enjoying the good live at TV.

Hopefully your golf front home is on an Executive, those appear to be multi story high density apartment complex protected, unlike Championships.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

OR. The least desirable areas are written about by people who do not live here, some who live nearby and don't like us, or who by those who are promoting other areas, or are just plain envious of those living in this wonderful place that even in lockdown is beautiful and wonderful.

Well sure, there's probably some of that too. But most of THOSE people wouldn't be active members of ToTV.

Meanwhile, back in the thread, most of us who have posted, live here either part or full time. Some of us know exactly what the poster is talking about with regards to the dog park, but have an actual explanation for why it appears as it does (the grass won't grow in the shade of the tree canopy overhead).

And most of us have expressed our preferences - showing that we do in fact live here, and are not envious of anything, and aren't promoting other places. However, most people don't spend their time with rose-colored contact lenses glued to our eyeballs.

[tvbound]

Both this one and the "most desirable area to live" threads have been interesting and informative for us.

[SacDQ]

How is this question any different than anyone of us have asked ourselves when renting or buying a home during our lifetime?

[44Apple]

That's a clown question, bro.

[graciegirl]

Well sure, there's probably some of that too. But most of THOSE people wouldn't be active members of ToTV.

Meanwhile, back in the thread, most of us who have posted, live here either part or full time. Some of us know exactly what the poster is talking about with regards to the dog park, but have an actual explanation for why it appears as it does (the grass won't grow in the shade of the tree canopy overhead).

And most of us have expressed our preferences - showing that we do in fact live here, and are not envious of anything, and aren't promoting other places. However, most people don't spend their time with rose-colored contact lenses glued to our eyeballs.

Don't talk like that to me or I will tell my mother and she is a lady wrestler.

[VApeople]

You gotta decide for yourself what makes an area undesirable.

To me, it would be very undesirable to live someplace where I had to turn left on a 4-lane road without a traffic light just to get out. There many areas in The Villages like that and I would hate to live in one.

In Osceola Hills, we leave at a roundabout where it is easy to go left or right.

[eweissenbach]

IMHO there are no “undesirable” neighborhoods in TV. There are many diverse areas that will appeal to different people’s needs, desires, and finances. Look around, hopefully you’ll find the one that is most desirable for you!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

You gotta decide for yourself what makes an area undesirable.

To me, it would be very undesirable to live someplace where I had to turn left on a 4-lane road without a traffic light just to get out. There many areas in The Villages like that and I would hate to live in one.

In Osceola Hills, we leave at a roundabout where it is easy to go left or right.

That's an actual fair point. It's true, having to wait for the trip to activate before being able to take a left can be annoying. Especially if you have ice cream melting in the car, and you get to the light RIGHT after it turned red - and the trip activator hasn't reset and therefore doesn't know you're there.

I've had to wait two cycles of the light changes before the left turn light finally engaged. And one time, I waited for a fourth one - and it never came, so I said to hell with it and made the left turn illegally. It was obviously not working correctly.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

On a golf course about 180 to 200 yards from the tee on the right hand side.

[swooner]

Greetings-
The other day I asked about which areas here in The Villages where considered the most exclusive / desirable areas in The Villages and I received many positive responses.

I'm also interested in learning about the least desirable areas in The Villages.

I "personally" was not impressed with the dog park near Spanish Springs. It appeared neglected and most of the grass in the dog-park playing area is gone and only dirt remains which makes it a terrible area especially when the dirt turns to mud after a heavy rain. Not sure why The Villages cant spent a few bucks and re-sod and clean the area.

Any suggestions appreciated.
Repulsive!

[golfing eagles]

The most desirable is where you live, the most undesirable is where everyone else lives :)

Sort of like grandchildren?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

Wife and I have overwintered in TV for past 20+ years.
Never been in a 'bad area' as the standards are uniform, high and in 99.9% cases, well upheld
A few observations on where we would not buy are:
Backing on a golf course. Early morning mowing noise.
On a through route, cars or golf cart. Too much traffic. A cul de sac location is best.
Anywhere with vacant land adjoining. Development is innevitable.
Near the railway line.
Near the school.
Next door to us. Miserable old git insitu!!:icon_wink: