Big Brother ??

[Joe C.]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

[kathyspear]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.

Um, no, they don't.

kathy

[Topspinmo]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

Anybody that has cell/smart phone gave up there privacy the minute they entered their information and turned them on. Also with Google, FB, Yahoo!, Twitter And anything free all sell you private information. Only hackers can steal you’re banking accounts and you have to help them do it.

[tophcfa]

The only apps I will use are Spotify (music) and my radar (weather). I hate having everything I do being tracked. I do not want to be a data point!

[Halibut]

Unfortunately, the convenience of being online in any capacity comes with a certain loss of privacy. We all either need to make some sort of mental peace with it or do without.

We have an Alexa device which is used exclusively to play audiobooks. I've disabled the mic, all notifications, reminders, skills, etc. But it still bothers me a bit.

Should one agree with their goals, The Electronic Frontier Foundation (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation) could be one of the organization to support.

[tophcfa]

Unfortunately, the convenience of being online in any capacity comes with a certain loss of privacy. We all either need to make some sort of mental peace with it or do without.

We have an Alexa device which is used exclusively to play audiobooks. I've disabled the mic, all notifications, reminders, skills, etc. But it still bothers me a bit.

Should one agree with their goals, The Electronic Frontier Foundation (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation) could be one of the organization to support.

Please don’t assume that since you have disabled certain functions, that said functions are actually disabled.

[Two Bills]

Why worry?
If it makes life easier or better. Use it.
Anyone tracking me will get bored to death anyway!

[JimJohnson]

Don’t let Fake Information paranoia dominate your life. Your life and habits are of no importance to anyone that matters. GGGGEEEEZZZZZZ!

[Jsbedford]

To test whether or not Siri or Alexa are listening, just mention some obscure catalog or movie and see what arrives in your mailbox or inbox pretty quickly afterwards.

[bragones]

Way too paranoid. Software security continues and privacy laws continue to improve dramatically. Why deny yourself one of the most revolutionary advancements in our time. I control my house with my phone and love it. As for banking, I get an alerts if anyone so much as looks at my account, much to my wife’s chagrin ������

[rlcooper70]

You comment that you don't use Siri and never have turned it on .... and using that as "evidence" that the bogeyman is intruding ... shows that you are probably correct .. you should toss your phone in the garbage.

Yes ... you life on the phone is likely being stored in a giant network near a hydroelectric plant in Washington State ... yes ... but if Siri is "on" ... you did it buddy.

[joseppe]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

They are after you! I would get rid of the phone immediately. Its the only way to be safe.

[Joe C.]

[Um, no, they don't
kathy[/QUOTE]

Well, if Siri doesn't read my email, then why did it send me a notification of what was in my email??

BTW when the apps ask if they can use your location, and you say "no", do you really think that they aren't using it? Of course they are. When you get an app, you agree to their terms by hitting "I accept". BUT DID YOU REALLY READ WHAT YOU AGREED TO? Read it word for word before accepting would be a good idea.

[Dana1963]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.
Do you have a SMART TV and is it connected to the Internet thru your tv provider. How Retail Stores Track You Using Your Smartphone (and How to Stop It) (https://lifehacker.com/how-retail-stores-track-you-using-your-smartphone-and-827512308) der? Your car is even connecting thru bluetooth/wifi How Retail Stores Track You Using Your Smartphone (and How to Stop It) (https://lifehacker.com/how-retail-stores-track-you-using-your-smartphone-and-827512308)
Ever notice when using a computer or tablet for searches or general browsing ads will start appearing general to your search. It's not just iPhone it's any smartphone and Flip Phones have the same capability.
In regards to your pending appointment, you may have been notified thru your calendar.

[Girlcopper]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.
No. No one reads your email. Yes, there is tracking of your searhes. Did you ever think to check your settings??

[wsachs]

Don't throw it away. You can have all info wiped on it, donate it to the military, battered women's shelters, etc. Your carrier will probably give you a flip phone free.

[Joe C.]

No. No one reads your email. Yes, there is tracking of your searhes. Did you ever think to check your settings??

Yes. I shut off most items in my settings. I know that "cookies" acknowledge my searches with advertising. I "agreed" with them when I went browsing.

I don't use my calendar on my phone. My calendar is hanging on my wall.
My email was just that.....an email from a friend. The notification was from Siri...about a game on Wednesday..........but it isn't scheduled anywhere. It's just something that may happen.

[dtennent]

A few years ago, I took a Microsoft course to understand everything that was included with their Windows/Office package. The instructor noted that while the security software on computers has become much better and is updated regularly, cell phones are much more porous for a number of reasons. His suggestion was to never actually purchase anything through a cell phone. Getting alerts from Visa/Mastercard was okay since no actual account numbers were included. I have found that there is nothing I need so badly that can't wait until I get to my computer. With regards to tracking - If they get rid of Social Security and I get so desperate that I need to rob a bank, I will make sure to leave my phone at home. (poor attempt at humor).

[greenflash245]

yes, dump the phone.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I suggest that to help some of the very nervous people on here from Siri reading there thoughts or listening to conversations ,wear a baseball hat with tin foil inside it

[Stu from NYC]

My car insurance company keeps asking me to keep location on so they can track my miles and driving habits.

By doing this every time we walk into a store I get a message from the store who knows I am there and often sends me survey.

As a result keep location off unless using waze.

[villager@casa-aloha.net]

After watching the documentary "Social Dilemma" on Netflix, I wanted to delete ALL the apps on my phone.

[Shawn714]

Big brother is always watching!!😳

[coralway]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.




Mmmm, yeah. Maybe you should.

[justjim]

The World Wide Web is just that The World Wide Web with its pro and cons. Back when the “Gasoline horse” first made its entry into people’s lives some still preferred the ol’ horse with four legs. Things haven’t changed much about people today. You either embrace technology or hide from it. Your choice.

[billethkid]

If it were true, then what is it about anyone of us, out of the billions and billions and billions of sources of information, be of interest to ANYBODY?

Another subject that is arm chair over intellectualized! IMHO.

[Rosie1950]

Yes. I shut off most items in my settings. I know that "cookies" acknowledge my searches with advertising. I "agreed" with them when I went browsing.

I don't use my calendar on my phone. My calendar is hanging on my wall.
My email was just that.....an email from a friend. The notification was from Siri...about a game on Wednesday..........but it isn't scheduled anywhere. It's just something that may happen.
Joe, I totally get what ur saying, several weeks ago my girlfriend and I had pedicures. While talking to my nail tech, suddenly Siri pipes up with “ that’s not very nice “. I was asking her how her week was going? Evidently u don’t have to start a question with “hey Siri “ in order to activate. Gotta say this NEVER happened before and was kind of creepy. My phone was in my purse. I have it set for Siri to only recognize my voice. Again creepy.
In the past anytime I used Siri I HAD to start with Hey Siri in order to get results.

[Rlheinz19@yahoo.com]

Watch "The Social Dilemma". The founders and key employees of some of the big social networks weigh in on some of the techniques they use to get you hooked on social media and their personal experiences.

[Skip]

Apple (for iPhones) and Google (for Androids) put an app on your phone this summer to track you.
You did NOT ask for it and you did NOT agree to it (per se).
It's NOT a stand alone application that can be deleted from your Applications folder.
Go to settings and you can find it there, called: COVID-19 Exposure.

Skip

[Stu from NYC]

I suggest that to help some of the very nervous people on here from Siri reading there thoughts or listening to conversations ,wear a baseball hat with tin foil inside it

A double layer of foil makes you twice as safe

[MaxCat]

Unfortunately privacy laws have been slow to keep up with the pace of technology -- press your legislative representatives on this because they are the ones who set the laws. Sometimes, when you don't pay $s for an app, the "price" you pay for the convenience of having it is to provide some information about yourself, such as your email address. As always, it's your choice. If you don't want to give up certain pieces of information about yourself, or you are concerned that hackers will steal your information or that a business won't use the information they have on you in an ethical way then it is your choice to forgo the convenience and not use the technology. (Though in some cases you may be left in the dust by the rest of society that does choose to use it.) But it's your choice, of course!

[LianneMigiano]

Why worry?
If it makes life easier or better. Use it.
Anyone tracking me will get bored to death anyway!
GOOD ANSWER! Anyone tracking me would get bored, too!

[RoadToad]

Joe, I totally get what ur saying, several weeks ago my girlfriend and I had pedicures. While talking to my nail tech, suddenly Siri pipes up with “ that’s not very nice “. I was asking her how her week was going? Evidently u don’t have to start a question with “hey Siri “ in order to activate. Gotta say this NEVER happened before and was kind of creepy. My phone was in my purse. I have it set for Siri to only recognize my voice. Again creepy.
In the past anytime I used Siri I HAD to start with Hey Siri in order to get results.
There are a number of phrases that will unintentionally trigger Siri, Cortana, Google, and other listening devices.
Due to waveform shape similarities, many sounds are misidentified by digital analysis.
Google it, or click here:

“Why Does iPhone & Siri Start Talking Randomly Out of Nowhere? Are Robots Taking Over?” (https://osxdaily.com/2014/12/05/siri-iphone-talking-randomly-help/#:~:text=As%20you%20may%20have%20guessed,be%20trac ed%20back%20to%20the)

[RuthA]

A while back another couple and my husband and I were in our living room discussing the pros and cons of CBD oil. In a few minutes I got an add on my cell phone for CBD oil! Scary!

[kathyspear]

Apple (for iPhones) and Google (for Androids) put an app on your phone this summer to track you.
You did NOT ask for it and you did NOT agree to it (per se).
It's NOT a stand alone application that can be deleted from your Applications folder.
Go to settings and you can find it there, called: COVID-19 Exposure.

Skip

By default, covid tracking is turned off an iphone. You have to manually enable it.

k.

[xkeowner]

On Android phones each app has multiple permissions which you can accept or deny. It does take a bit of effort, but I dent access for areas an app doesn't have a reason to need access to. For instance, photos and email for most apps. Location for many apps and the list goes on. If an app will not work without a permission I don't see a reason it needs access to I look for an equivalent app that is not as nosy and failing that make the decision of how much I really want that app.

[GoPacers]

On Android phones each app has multiple permissions which you can accept or deny. It does take a bit of effort, but I dent access for areas an app doesn't have a reason to need access to. For instance, photos and email for most apps. Location for many apps and the list goes on. If an app will not work without a permission I don't see a reason it needs access to I look for an equivalent app that is not as nosy and failing that make the decision of how much I really want that app.

If you develop apps for the Android using any structured development environment the developer will "toggle" what permissions the app requests while in the development environment. In most cases this doesn't mean the app will actually access everything, it was just a default selection for the developer and that the user "accepts" when using the app. As noted in the referenced post, the user has the ability to disable permissions for any given app.

For most apps these "requested permissions" are not as nefarious as it may seem. Still, use good judgement and if you're not comfortable, don't install the app.

[AustinKim]

Absolutely right. Who cares? I am not that interesting.

[jacksonbrown]

Just last week, honey and I were interrupted from our romantic interlude by an insistent knocking at the front door.

Finally, I threw on some clothes, marched across the house, threw open the door and was met my two policeman.

"We received a call from Amazon, your Alexa detected someone beating their spouse." Oh my!

[Marshaw]

I think siri is your issue.

[Stu from NYC]

Just last week, honey and I were interrupted from our romantic interlude by an insistent knocking at the front door.

Finally, I threw on some clothes, marched across the house, threw open the door and was met my two policeman.

"We received a call from Amazon, your Alexa detected someone beating their spouse." Oh my!

Really?

[Chi-Town]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.

Perhaps an old flip phone is the answer.

[Dcommuter]

Even Alexa did listen to every conversation , we caught it manytimes. I disable my siri and delete google app because it snoop on my activity even I am not using the app. If you go to google setting and disable the activity stuff still it goes back on itself. So , I deleted it. If i do shopping on Amazon app and when I open Facebook , you bet what I bought in Amazon it is in my newsfeed ads. So I deleted facebook since they censor everything. There is a new social media who does not censors wimkin and they don’t do what facebook does.

[vinricci]

Watch “Social Dilemma” on Netflix.

[Bay Kid]

If I get tired of boring computer ads I just go to Victoria's Secrets site. Then I get to look at beautiful ladies for the next several days.

[Marathon Man]

I am guessing that the wording of the email caused an entry into your phone's calandar. Since you do not use your phone's calandar, you do not see this happening. Siri is simply reminding you of an upcoming event that is on your calandar. You can turn these functions off through your phones settings. I have them off because I find them annoying.

[Joe C.]

I am guessing that the wording of the email caused an entry into your phone's calandar. Since you do not use your phone's calandar, you do not see this happening. Siri is simply reminding you of an upcoming event that is on your calandar. You can turn these functions off through your phones settings. I have them off because I find them annoying.

My calendar has absolutely no entries.....I have never used it, and never need to. I believe that SIRI reads all emails, contacts, and anything in your cellphone and anything that your cellphone can access. If you access an app, say a bank account, you need to enter a password to get into the account. SIRI monitors all that you do, and "reads" the password into it's memory, and also sees what you see on your screen.
It may take no action on this activity, but compiles the information and does what it wants, like saving it or selling the statistical accumulation of your, and everyone else's information.
I also believe that someday the population will wake up and find all their electronic information has been hacked, hijacked, and unavailable for the owner to access and use.

[Dana1963]

I was talking to a friend today about Apps on the cellphones. I don't like them, as you give up some privacy for convenience. I told him that the third parties that own the apps have access to everything on your I-Phone when you use them. The "third parties" can access and read your emails, check your bank accounts, all your contacts and even get their email addresses and phone numbers from your cellphone.
An hour ago I got a notification from "Siri" saying that there was a game on Wednesday, Oct 13 at 6pm and lasting until around 8p.m.
Coincidentally, I did get an email from a friend saying that he would be at the rec center at 6pm if anyone wanted to play cards.
So, "Siri" DOES READ YOUR EMAIL......and even though Siri is available on my Iphone, I have never activated or used it.
I don't trust technology. Maybe I should throw away my cellphone.
This week, Apple confirmed a new privacy blow when it delayed a major iOS 14 anti-tracking feature after pushback from Facebook and others. Here’s what that means. What Apple’s Disappointing iOS 14 Feature Delay Means For iPhone Privacy (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2020/09/05/new-apple-ios-14-privacy-blow-after-disappointing-feature-delay/#624eb13d5f40)

[Topspinmo]

Why worry?
If it makes life easier or better. Use it.
Anyone tracking me will get bored to death anyway!


So says the hackers:1rotfl:

[Topspinmo]

If it were true, then what is it about anyone of us, out of the billions and billions and billions of sources of information, be of interest to ANYBODY?

Another subject that is arm chair over intellectualized! IMHO.

You know when crime committed first thing the look at is cell phone if the perk has one. All information is stored on cell phone where it on or off. When you pass tower it’s recorded, when you go out of area to another tower it’s recorded. Yes, good tool for crime fighting, but there not the only ones that can gather the information.

[TCNY61]

You know when crime committed first thing the look at is cell phone if the perk has one. All information is stored on cell phone where it on or off. When you pass tower it’s recorded, when you go out of area to another tower it’s recorded. Yes, good tool for crime fighting, but there not the only ones that can gather the information.

An older version of the Iphone IOS keep a plain text file of every location the phone was ever located. NY uses the cell tower info to determine if you are a full time resident of the state to charge you income taxes.