I can't wait to leave The Villages

[Guest]

Yesterday, I was standing talking to a group of men that I had never met before when one asked me how long I had been in The Villages. 3 months I replied adding that my wife and I really enjoyed it here. One of the men loudly stated " I have been here 9 years and if my house ever sells I will be gone." He followed that immediately with "This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here." Well, silence was obvious over the group and as I thought about what he said for about 15 seconds, I said in an almost questioning tone "We moved here and enjoy this place because of the reality of the real world." I guess the questioning tone to my statement was there as I was questioning whether we had made the right decision for us.

Now this morning, still thinking of the strange conversation, I still feel the statement I said reflects my feelings. My wife and I spent our lives in many different places around the world to include my 22 years military service. Now understand, we are not trying to escape the Real World, but at our age, our contributions to the real world and simply because we do love this place, I cannot accept that we are being less than genuine in our choice of location for retirement. I also do not feel that we are fleeing responsibility to the real world for living here.

There is no point or moral to this post, just to say that we as a couple feel this is right for us.

[Guest]

I totally agree with you Lou. TV is the world in my view as it should be.

Army Guy

[Guest]

The guy has a point -- TV is nothing like most of the world. That's why we chose it. We've not turned our back on the outside world. If we had, there would be no volunteers here, no willingness to help others, no political discussions. Most of us have paid our dues plus some.

Like almost everyone else in the U.S., we have the right to choose where we want to live. Our choice is a community that gives back to others; has activities for everyone; a place where people smile because their world is right. That's not a bad thing, just not for everyone.

Here's hoping that man sells his home quickly and finds a place more to his liking. For me, I'll take living in this wonderful little bubble. It suits my needs perectly.

[Guest]

One of the men loudly stated " I have been here 9 years and if my house ever sells I will be gone." He followed that immediately with "This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here."

I wish him luck selling his house and hope it happens really fast!

[Guest]

Good point about volunteers Red. I think I read somewhere that the Villages hospital (TVRH) has the highest volunteer to patient ratio in the country. So I guess that guy is right, TV is not the real world. Good for us.

[Guest]

I frequently see the term "inside the bubble" used here.

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we just choose to make it real pleasant. It's real, real people live here and do real stuff. Sorry I don't get why people think it is so unreal or in a bubble. It's just a time in our live to sit back and contemplate and maybe be a more pleasant person.

[Guest]

Yesterday, I was standing talking to a group of men that I had never met before when one asked me how long I had been in The Villages. 3 months I replied adding that my wife and I really enjoyed it here. One of the men loudly stated " I have been here 9 years and if my house ever sells I will be gone." He followed that immediately with "This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here." Well, silence was obvious over the group and as I thought about what he said for about 15 seconds, I said in an almost questioning tone "We moved here and enjoy this place because of the reality of the real world." I guess the questioning tone to my statement was there as I was questioning whether we had made the right decision for us.

Now this morning, still thinking of the strange conversation, I still feel the statement I said reflects my feelings. My wife and I spent our lives in many different places around the world to include my 22 years military service. Now understand, we are not trying to escape the Real World, but at our age, our contributions to the real world and simply because we do love this place, I cannot accept that we are being less than genuine in our choice of location for retirement. I also do not feel that we are fleeing responsibility to the real world for living here.

There is no point or moral to this post, just to say that we as a couple feel this is right for us.

There is some truth to TV being like a Disneyland for Seniors..but, that's why we came here. We can go OUT into the world anytime we want to. This is a safe place to have our home and when we go "out into the world", we know that our abode sits beautifully there waiting for our return. I guess that's why people have two homes. They can return to their hometown, visit with the grandkids and be in "the real world" and then come back here to enjoy the beautiful, manicured areas that our ammenity fees take care of. If we had bought a condo in Minneapolis, our homeowner fees could have been $200 - $500. No thanks. I'm happy here in our island. :wave:

[Guest]

The guy has a point -- TV is nothing like most of the world. That's why we chose it. We've not turned our back on the outside world. If we had, there would be no volunteers here, no willingness to help others, no political discussions. Most of us have paid our dues plus some.

Like almost everyone else in the U.S., we have the right to choose where we want to live. Our choice is a community that gives back to others; has activities for everyone; a place where people smile because their world is right. That's not a bad thing, just not for everyone.

Here's hoping that man sells his home quickly and finds a place more to his liking. For me, I'll take living in this wonderful little bubble. It suits my needs perectly.

What Redwitch said.

[Guest]

What Redwitch said too!!

I can hardly wait to live in TV. I long for a peaceful and dynamic life by my choosing.

J

[Guest]

Good for you Lou that his unhappiness didn't affect the way you think and the decision you made.

"People are as happy as they make up their minds to be " - Abraham Lincoln

IMHO - TV is a place that has many happy, caring people who are willing to help others and want to enjoy their remaining days. It feels like stepping back in time to a gentler world.
Where a person chooses to live is their own business. I will choose to move to TV.

[Guest]

Tell this guy not to let the door hit him the a$$ on the way out. No one has him tied up.

[Guest]

I bet this guy is one of the Grumpies (as I call them) There are a few here--thank goodness not many. He will not be happy no matter where he lives. It's just his nature.
You know the type.

We visited for the first time 4 years ago. When I walked onto the Square, I knew I was "home". We have been here a year and I still feel the same way.

The Villages isn't perfect, but darn near!!

[Guest]

And what is so wonderful about the "real world" ???:

I had a lifelong friend who decided she wanted nothing more to do with me after a 58 year friendship. Her reasoning was that TV was nothing but a fantasy land full of" brain dead space cadets! "(her exact words)

I believe the Villages is place where people are constantly helping others in one way or another. Every day the paper is full of articles about volunteers raising money and helping charitable organizations in and around TV. We just believe in having some enjoyment while doing it. I feel truly blessed to have found this wonderful place to live out our golden years.

[Guest]

Yesterday, I was standing talking to a group of men that I had never met before when one asked me how long I had been in The Villages. 3 months I replied adding that my wife and I really enjoyed it here. One of the men loudly stated " I have been here 9 years and if my house ever sells I will be gone." He followed that immediately with "This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here." Well, silence was obvious over the group and as I thought about what he said for about 15 seconds, I said in an almost questioning tone "We moved here and enjoy this place because of the reality of the real world." I guess the questioning tone to my statement was there as I was questioning whether we had made the right decision for us.

Now this morning, still thinking of the strange conversation, I still feel the statement I said reflects my feelings. My wife and I spent our lives in many different places around the world to include my 22 years military service. Now understand, we are not trying to escape the Real World, but at our age, our contributions to the real world and simply because we do love this place, I cannot accept that we are being less than genuine in our choice of location for retirement. I also do not feel that we are fleeing responsibility to the real world for living here.

There is no point or moral to this post, just to say that we as a couple feel this is right for us.

I have a first cousin who would never leave the Bronx, NY because that is "the real world" and mocks the fact that Rudy Giuliani cleaned up Time Square because the pornos, hookers and street freaks were the "real Times Square" and gave the place its character.
He can keep the real world and I'll watch it from here. I'll be on the front nine if you want to continue this conversation :)

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My only comment to him from the streets of Brooklyn, NY is

"don't let the door hit you in the a**"

[Guest]

Yesterday, I was standing talking to a group of men that I had never met before when one asked me how long I had been in The Villages. 3 months I replied adding that my wife and I really enjoyed it here. One of the men loudly stated " I have been here 9 years and if my house ever sells I will be gone." He followed that immediately with "This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here." Well, silence was obvious over the group and as I thought about what he said for about 15 seconds, I said in an almost questioning tone "We moved here and enjoy this place because of the reality of the real world." I guess the questioning tone to my statement was there as I was questioning whether we had made the right decision for us.

Now this morning, still thinking of the strange conversation, I still feel the statement I said reflects my feelings. My wife and I spent our lives in many different places around the world to include my 22 years military service. Now understand, we are not trying to escape the Real World, but at our age, our contributions to the real world and simply because we do love this place, I cannot accept that we are being less than genuine in our choice of location for retirement. I also do not feel that we are fleeing responsibility to the real world for living here.

There is no point or moral to this post, just to say that we as a couple feel this is right for us.


This person's feelings could apply to any town, city, etc.

I know pople who do not like living in our little town due to high taxes, proximity to shopping and a variety of reasons. As others have said I hope he finds someplace that he likes.

Glad to hear you and your wife are happy with your decision. That's the important thing.

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The fellow quote in the 1st post has a very different reality than I do!
He will be himself wherever he is, just because he is there.

I live in the “real world” wherever I am.

I know how I live up north and how I live here. I find that the lifestyle here will keep me younger longer, keep me happier longer, and keep me alive longer.

[Guest]

Ditto, Redwitch and all the rest of you great folks. :thumbup:

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Maybe he is correct ---TV might not be the real world :shrug:

But maybe we would all be better off if the real world was TV:clap2:

Cant wait to get there ---10/27 :pepper2:

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choosing not to dwell on all the unhappiness and grief that is in the world is not a bad thing and is a personal choice. People in the Villages are fully aware of everything that is going on in this world. They have just made a choice to try and live a good life with a cheerful outlook.

all grumps need to give a great deal of thought before moving to TV. pessimism and nastiness will not be tolerated!!!

[Guest]

What is "the real world"? The real world that I left was one of suburban America where neighbors did not really know each other, where being in a friendly neighborhood meant that they would wave to each other as they drove by. If somebody up the street had a death in the family or a serious illness, you probably never knew about it, and if you did, you would just say some platitude like, "Oh, that's too bad".

Contrast that with my TV neighborhood where I know and regularly socialize with many more neighbors than I even knew the names of in my old "real world". In my new real world, neighbors not only know of life's tragedies that hit the neighborhood, but go out of their way to express condolances and chip in for memorials/flowers. On the other side of the sad events are the happy events of kids getting married or grandkids being born. The neighbors are there to help celebrate those times as well.

So, which "real world" one lives in is his/her choice: the insular real world of most of the rest of America or the real world of neighbors caring for their fellow neighbors. I'll take the latter. I'd say that those who choose the former may be doing so to really escape the real world - the real world of sharing life's joys and sadness within your community.

[Guest]

You will learn as we have that there are some people (in EVERY group) that no one can satisfy and go thru life being miserable. We too have come here to "escape" the Real World and it's miserable and rude people and have (on the most part) found that The Villages has some very nice courteous and delightful people. Then again.... I (we) try to overlook the jackass people that make the "Real" world a place that is only getting worse with it's spiteful and bitter people. Welcome as we appreciate you and commend you for sharing your ( + ) positive attitude. If more people were like you then we would have no problem with the "others". :BigApplause:

Yesterday, I was standing talking to a group of men that I had never met before when one asked me how long I had been in The Villages. 3 months I replied adding that my wife and I really enjoyed it here. One of the men loudly stated " I have been here 9 years and if my house ever sells I will be gone." He followed that immediately with "This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here." Well, silence was obvious over the group and as I thought about what he said for about 15 seconds, I said in an almost questioning tone "We moved here and enjoy this place because of the reality of the real world." I guess the questioning tone to my statement was there as I was questioning whether we had made the right decision for us.

Now this morning, still thinking of the strange conversation, I still feel the statement I said reflects my feelings. My wife and I spent our lives in many different places around the world to include my 22 years military service. Now understand, we are not trying to escape the Real World, but at our age, our contributions to the real world and simply because we do love this place, I cannot accept that we are being less than genuine in our choice of location for retirement. I also do not feel that we are fleeing responsibility to the real world for living here.

There is no point or moral to this post, just to say that we as a couple feel this is right for us.

[Guest]

Maybe, these grumps are hardcore Democrats who feel really lonely!


I am a Democrat and really like the Villages even if it is a bit removed from the hustle and bustle of life in some of out bigger cities with their pollution, crime, traffic, politics, and the like.

I have met some Democrats though who really feel out of place with the Villages. I just keep my mouth shut for the most part when the discussions get to God or politics. Except on TOTV that is.

[Guest]

What is "the real world"? The real world that I left was one of suburban America where neighbors did not really know each other, where being in a friendly neighborhood meant that they would wave to each other as they drove by. If somebody up the street had a death in the family or a serious illness, you probably never knew about it, and if you did, you would just say some platitude like, "Oh, that's too bad".

Contrast that with my TV neighborhood where I know and regularly socialize with many more neighbors than I even knew the names of in my old "real world". In my new real world, neighbors not only know of life's tragedies that hit the neighborhood, but go out of their way to express condolances and chip in for memorials/flowers. On the other side of the sad events are the happy events of kids getting married or grandkids being born. The neighbors are there to help celebrate those times as well.

So, which "real world" one lives in is his/her choice: the insular real world of most of the rest of America or the real world of neighbors caring for their fellow neighbors. I'll take the latter. I'd say that those who choose the former may be doing so to really escape the real world - the real world of sharing life's joys and sadness within your community.

Nice post NJblue. It is so true about losing community spirit now a days. People ask what I'm running away from. I tell them I am not running away, I am running to a better life.
If people did not look for a better life, we all would be on the East coast and there would never have been a wild west.

As for politics: I get my fill online and rarely talk about it in real life. I especially avoid the subject on family get togethers. Life is too short.

[Guest]

The real world is too scary for me anymore.

[Guest]

How I agree with NJblue!

In my five-plus years here I haven't met even one grouch! I have, on the other hand, met a small handful of folks who "hate" TV.

The grouches should never have settled in. Those who "hate" it aren't even trying!

In my many travels, I spend a lot of time trying to persuade skeptics that TV is "paradise." Most of them have a hard time believing me, but I have managed to convince a few to come and partake of our joys!

SWR
:beer3:

[Guest]

If the real world was like The Villages, IT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER WORLD!!:clap2:

[Guest]

The real world is too scary for me anymore.

Amen, Sista! :agree:

[Guest]

Maybe the guy is a "grouch" and will be unhappy anywhere he goes. On the other hand, maybe TV truly is not his cup of tea, and he is otherwise a happy well-adjusted person. TV is paradise for many, including me, but it is not for everyone, and to presume this guy is a grump or a bad person for stating his opinion is rather narrow-minded. Hopefully he sells to someone looking for what TV has to offer and he finds happiness elsewhere; a win-win.

[Guest]

What is "the real world"? The real world that I left was one of suburban America where neighbors did not really know each other, where being in a friendly neighborhood meant that they would wave to each other as they drove by. If somebody up the street had a death in the family or a serious illness, you probably never knew about it, and if you did, you would just say some platitude like, "Oh, that's too bad".

Contrast that with my TV neighborhood where I know and regularly socialize with many more neighbors than I even knew the names of in my old "real world". In my new real world, neighbors not only know of life's tragedies that hit the neighborhood, but go out of their way to express condolances and chip in for memorials/flowers. On the other side of the sad events are the happy events of kids getting married or grandkids being born. The neighbors are there to help celebrate those times as well.

So, which "real world" one lives in is his/her choice: the insular real world of most of the rest of America or the real world of neighbors caring for their fellow neighbors. I'll take the latter. I'd say that those who choose the former may be doing so to really escape the real world - the real world of sharing life's joys and sadness within your community.

:agree:

Yes, TV feels like a bubble to me. I get that. But what is it about TV that so offends some people in the so-called "real world".

I seriously would like to understand. I don't believe that Nonie's former friend is alone in believing "that TV was nothing but a fantasy land full of 'brain dead space cadets'". But why?

There are plenty of gated communities all across America, often with more expensive housing, private security and less access to "the outside world".

Florida alone is awash in gated, retirement communities where no children live-- communities full of wealthier (on average) people whose lifestyles also could be described as living on a permanent resort vacation.

But these communities do not draw as much hostile attention and resentment as TV does. So, I do think it goes beyond jealously.

But from what spring does the resentment "bubble"?

[Guest]

Maybe the guy is a "grouch" and will be unhappy anywhere he goes. On the other hand, maybe TV truly is not his cup of tea, and he is otherwise a happy well-adjusted person. TV is paradise for many, including me, but it is not for everyone, and to presume this guy is a grump or a bad person for stating his opinion is rather narrow-minded. Hopefully he sells to someone looking for what TV has to offer and he finds happiness elsewhere; a win-win.

:agree:

[Guest]

I believe that each of us was born with a different social orientation. There are extroverts and introverts, shy and outgoing, verbal or quiet.

I think that The Villages draw people who very much enjoy interacting with other people.

I suspect that people who like to muse about things far away from the madding crowd aren't going to like it here so much.

It takes all kinds to make a world.

I just wish that if this place isn't what they would choose, that they wouldn't be so critical of us who love it.

I think some people just don't like others to be having a good time.

And that is sad.

[Guest]

Wow, interesting conversation.

Well, I have several more years before retirement and we chose The Villages because it is the perfect lifestyle, retired or not. I have a great job, love our house and everyone we have met has been so helpful and kind. Is it a bubble, I suppose it depends on how one defines the word, but if it is, I sure hope it doesn't burst anytime soon. We all contribute to this wonderful community and let it continue.

To each his own and hopefully the gentleman will sell his home soon and find his paradise, whatever and wherever that may be. It's great we have choices.....

[Guest]

The guy has a point -- TV is nothing like most of the world. That's why we chose it. We've not turned our back on the outside world. If we had, there would be no volunteers here, no willingness to help others, no political discussions. Most of us have paid our dues plus some.

Like almost everyone else in the U.S., we have the right to choose where we want to live. Our choice is a community that gives back to others; has activities for everyone; a place where people smile because their world is right. That's not a bad thing, just not for everyone.

Here's hoping that man sells his home quickly and finds a place more to his liking. For me, I'll take living in this wonderful little bubble. It suits my needs perectly.

Well said Dee! :agree:

[Guest]

Hey

I'm a Democrate and I love the concept of TV. I won't keep my mouth shut because I believe it's so okay to have an opinion and still be friends, hopefully. The life in TV will be some truly quality problems. I can hardly wait to there.

Life is so grand. It's all about perception and how I perceive this world.

J

[Guest]

Don't want to get into politics but...

Why is it "I'm a Democrat or I'm a Republican" - Why isn't it just "This is my opinion on this matter"?

I don't understand why being either (or other) is any more of a concern than anywhere else. Do people really sit around and discuss their political concerns that much? I'd rather talk about you or your issues or your golf game or your grandchildren or what fun TV thing we are going to do next.

[Guest]

Pturner, I wonder if TV isn't somewhat unique in terms of the level of positive discourse that comes from TV Frogs, Snowbirds, and wannabees. We have looked at a few other communities over the years, and they all tout their own horns pretty well, but it's the developers doing all the touting, not the residents! TV seems unique in this regard. Just look at this forum! I've never seen anything like it for other communities, although that may exist and I just haven't seen it. So, it would not surprise me that when thousands of people are going around saying things like "This is the best place I've ever seen" and "I can't wait to move there", others who have not experienced a visit, and perhaps who see these statements as a denigration of their current towns, would react more negatively than usual. I know of a number of people in our current community who have heard of TV, but have really only experienced any information about TV from those of us who are sold on the idea already or from "Leisureville" (from which they can all only quote that one infamous statistic). I get the feeling that they are of a mind that it sounds too good to be true, therefore it can't be true, and without the direct expereince, they refuse to believe it, and therefore are as adamant in their negative comments as we are in our positive ones. JMHO.

B.

[Guest]

......."This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here."......

Sounds like you may have run into Andrew Blechman.:duck:

[Guest]

I think this might be a case of this person being a contrarian. You know, get in a group of people, and no matter what the subject, take the opposite view to stir a reaction and bring attention to themselves. We all know that TV isn't perfect, but for the vast majority of us, myself included, it's perfect for us. Just take a look at TOTV. 99.9999999999999% of the posts and posters and positive and are helpful and informative.But every once in a while you'll get someone who tries to tell us how naive and foolish we are for living the lifestyle and believing in the place, even though they have spent little or no time in TV. If there's a problem, I think it should be discussed and not swept under the rug, but not to just stir up a hornets nest and try to make people uneasy. I think we owe it to our selves to listen other opinions, but take them for what their worth.

[Guest]

The guy who can hardly wait to get out has lived here for nine years! What was he doing...serving a sentence?

[Guest]

(it's hot and sticky in the summer and I am afraid of hurricanes)...but we LOVE TV! We could have moved to alot of places in the south but we chose TV.

On our first visit we crossing the street at LSL and someone in a golf cart was obviously waiting for us so we scooted across (maybe trotted) to get out of his way more quickly when he leaned out of his cart and called to us "There's no running in The Villages!" :thumbup: We have never met so many friendly people. That was NOT an isolated occurance. On every trip down we have met more and more people who go out of there way to be friendly, helpful and kind.

We are constantly asked by our friends up here why we are moving to Florida ("Don't you know how HOT it is there?") and we always respond "We aren't moving to Florida - we're moving to The Villages!" Our house will be done in October and we can't WAIT to be there! It may not be for everyone but it IS for us! But, then, I probably don't need to preach to the choir.:highfive:

[Guest]

I don't like to judge other people. He may have things going on in his life that make the Villages uncomfortable for him. Maybe his wife is sick or has passed away, or he lives in an unfriendly neighborhood. You never know what is going on in other people's lives. My feeling about The Villages, is that it is large enough and has such a huge variety of people, that it has been easy for us to find people we like, that share our values. There are some people here that are not my cup of tea, but I choose not to spend time with them. Yes, there is a "bubble" type mentality here for some people, but you find those people everywhere, not just The Villages. We try to go "off campus" every few weeks or so, just to see and be among people who are not old retirees, which we find refreshing. We like restaurants and cultural activites in Orlando and Tampa. If I spent every minute here I would probably find it a little claustrophobic, so we choose to break up our time a little and get out into the rest of the world. I realize some people spend about every minute in TV and love it; just a difference in people and their needs.

[Guest]

I can't wait to get there, but I've got 2 years left. We're putting our house on the market in Jan, 2011, if it sells before we retire we'll rent a place. I just want to get down there in our little house on the Historical side. Maybe get a part time job with the security guys driving around in the little white trucks, we can't wait, deed restrictions and all, fence or no fence I can't wait!

[Guest]

Don't want to get into politics but...

Why is it "I'm a Democrat or I'm a Republican" - Why isn't it just "This is my opinion on this matter"?
I don't understand why being either (or other) is any more of a concern than anywhere else. Do people really sit around and discuss their political concerns that much? I'd rather talk about you or your issues or your golf game or your grandchildren or what fun TV thing we are going to do next.

Russ, I totally support your statement on opinions! Unfortunately, some folks here DO seem to sit around and discuss their political concerns very much. My mother always told me that, at social gatherings, polite people never discuss sex, religion, or politics. Period.

[Guest]

Pturner, I wonder if TV isn't somewhat unique in terms of the level of positive discourse that comes from TV Frogs, Snowbirds, and wannabees. We have looked at a few other communities over the years, and they all tout their own horns pretty well, but it's the developers doing all the touting, not the residents! TV seems unique in this regard. Just look at this forum! I've never seen anything like it for other communities, although that may exist and I just haven't seen it. So, it would not surprise me that when thousands of people are going around saying things like "This is the best place I've ever seen" and "I can't wait to move there", others who have not experienced a visit, and perhaps who see these statements as a denigration of their current towns, would react more negatively than usual. I know of a number of people in our current community who have heard of TV, but have really only experienced any information about TV from those of us who are sold on the idea already or from "Leisureville" (from which they can all only quote that one infamous statistic). I get the feeling that they are of a mind that it sounds too good to be true, therefore it can't be true, and without the direct expereince, they refuse to believe it, and therefore are as adamant in their negative comments as we are in our positive ones. JMHO.

B.

I agree with you bandsdavis. Some people take our belief that TV is the best retirement community as an affront on their choice and feel insulted.

However, the man has lived here 9 years. He chose to make a negative comment very loudly in a group of people. Either he is an attention-seeker, or is experiencing a bit of dementia, or is a GRUMP. Most people would not want to draw attention to themselves in such a negative way.

Good riddance; makes more room for nice people.

[Guest]

Don't want to get into politics but...

Why is it "I'm a Democrat or I'm a Republican" - Why isn't it just "This is my opinion on this matter"?

I don't understand why being either (or other) is any more of a concern than anywhere else. Do people really sit around and discuss their political concerns that much? I'd rather talk about you or your issues or your golf game or your grandchildren or what fun TV thing we are going to do next.

There is sometimes a lot of barking about politics at the Doggie Doo Run Run. On these days, you would often find the Democrats under one shelter and the Republicans under another with the various Independents shuttling back and forth from tent to tent like some kind of shuttlecock.

Some of these dog owners were very active in local politics too.

[Guest]

I'm with you gal's. Never felt safer and happier! Happy now that my place DIDN'T sell!:MOJE_whot:What Redwitch said.

[Guest]

I think this might be a case of this person being a contrarian. You know, get in a group of people, and no matter what the subject, take the opposite view to stir a reaction and bring attention to themselves. We all know that TV isn't perfect, but for the vast majority of us, myself included, it's perfect for us. Just take a look at TOTV. 99.9999999999999% of the posts and posters and positive and are helpful and informative.But every once in a while you'll get someone who tries to tell us how naive and foolish we are for living the lifestyle and believing in the place, even though they have spent little or no time in TV. If there's a problem, I think it should be discussed and not swept under the rug, but not to just stir up a hornets nest and try to make people uneasy. I think we owe it to our selves to listen other opinions, but take them for what their worth.


Very well stated!

[Guest]

Don't be so hard on this guy, Frankly I think he is right on the money....
I CAN'T WAIT FOR HIM TO LEAVE EITHER.......
...........chilout

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What is the "real world?" Is it where there is war? Is it where there are gangs? Is it where there is a lot of violence against the citizens, such as rape and robbery? Is it where there are suicide bombers? Somebody please define it.

I think this attitude is why most people in foreign countries tend to hate America. They look at us as not living in what they consider the "real world" and they want to kill us for it. They, like Mr. Grouch, don't mind coming here for what America has to offer, and when they have taken all they can from the American experience, they go home and talk about how horrible America is. I think it's time for Mr. Grouch to go home and hate us from afar.

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And what is so wonderful about the "real world" ???:

I had a lifelong friend who decided she wanted nothing more to do with me after a 58 year friendship. Her reasoning was that TV was nothing but a fantasy land full of" brain dead space cadets! "(her exact words)

I believe the Villages is place where people are constantly helping others in one way or another. Every day the paper is full of articles about volunteers raising money and helping charitable organizations in and around TV. We just believe in having some enjoyment while doing it. I feel truly blessed to have found this wonderful place to live out our golden years.

I wanted to comment about your friend of 58 years who dumped you when you came to TV. Same thing happened to me...my friend and I were friends for only 25 years, but it still hurts. Happened to a neighbor and another friend here, too. Seems like a pattern. Makes me wonder if our long-time, so-called "friends" aren't just jealous because we found paradise...and they didn't?? LOL!

[Guest]

The "real world" is that nothing and no one is perfect. Life can be messy and that it doesn't always go as planned. People will have problems that need to be solved. It's that way for everyone.

A friend of mine has said, "man plans and GOD laughs".

IMHO - I feel sorry for this person because he seems unhappy within himself. If that's the case. he will unhappy wherever he goes. Moving out of TV is not going to solve his problems but if I was there, I would be willing to help him pack-up his truck.

Let the miserable commiserate with their own kind if they enjoy that sort of feeling. Some people enjoy being miserable.

I personally can't wait to move to TV asap, to meet people who are friendly, helpful, caring and want to enjoy themselves.

Party hardy. :smiley:

2B

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Maybe the guy is a "grouch" and will be unhappy anywhere he goes. On the other hand, maybe TV truly is not his cup of tea, and he is otherwise a happy well-adjusted person. TV is paradise for many, including me, but it is not for everyone, and to presume this guy is a grump or a bad person for stating his opinion is rather narrow-minded. Hopefully he sells to someone looking for what TV has to offer and he finds happiness elsewhere; a win-win.

I disagree. It isn't so much how he feels about The Villages, its how he said it. No one said he was a bad person, just a miserable one. There is a way of expressing oneself without showing anger and bitterness. This doesn't sound like that was the case.

No, The Villages isn't for everyone If you are unhappy, you don't need to announce your displeasure to others in such a manner.

[Guest]

I'm personally glad for debate. I'm glad when someone gives a negative opinion. I'm glad when someone disagrees with me. I'm glad someone would rather eat vanilla ice cream. I'm glad there are different religions. I'm glad there are different politics. I love that America represents cultural diversity. All these differences make a real world. How boring would it be if everyone thought the same way, had the same view and there was never any conflict? We'd be bored, never learn how to tolerate differences and never learn new concepts. Now, the sad part is someone being unhappy for 9 years! See you all soon!

[Guest]

He is a Villager who is married to a just retired teacher from Marion County. He has been here about 9 years I would guess and is eager to leave the Villages to go live near family in North Carolina. He is very active-- or was very active-- in the campaign to elect Obama/Biden in 2008 and did frequently voice his support of Obama and his policies.

Not all people really are a very good fit with the Villages. He was very active in the politics of Marion county though while he lived in the Villages so I would find it hard that he would say he missed reality.

In 2010, it seems like Obama and his supporters are getting too much from reality.

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My only comment to him from the streets of Brooklyn, NY is

"don't let the door hit you in the a**"


I agree with this statement entirely. If someone is that unhappy here, just leave. There are no wire fences around here. I can't stand the people that complain how bad TV is, but they are busy 24/7. Don't know what they are looking for. I guess complaining gets them some attention.

[Guest]

My wife and I make no excuses for wanting to escape the real world. I am old and smart enough to know that the many people's real world consist of what they see in 30 second video clips on the "news", what they believe to be true without a shred of fact to back it up or what the politicians tell us. In the real world I am expected to gracefully accept what I do not want to accept. I did my tour in Vietnam and gave back to society for many years. Today, "keeping it real" usually means accepting rudeness, inappropriate behavior, etc.. I rather keep it fake for the remainder of my life. :) I hope that gentleman sells his house soon and gets his wish. All I know is that since moving to TV my stress level has decreased and my health has improved dramatically. The real world was killing me. :)

[Guest]

What I cannot understand is why the man referred to by the original poster has voluntarily suffered residing in a community in which he has been so unhappy for nine (surely long for him) years. Personally, I would not be so needlessly masochistic. When I graduated from school I took a position in a city in which I was not happy due to the weather although the people were wonderful and the job just fine. I grew up in a sunny, relatively warm climate and this city bordered one of the Great Lakes. It was cold and overcast much of the year and the snowfall reached 144 inches the first winter I was there. I suffered SAD and got pretty depressed. After sticking it out 30 months I relocated to an area I found quite sunny and desirable. I tell people it was the longest 20 years I ever spent in 30 months!

As for living in the real world, I prefer to reside in a clean, green, beautifully landscaped and well maintained, friendly, social, sunny, pleasant, safe (relatively drug and crime free) environment. - Does that sound like TV? - I am now at an age where the thought of living in an active adult community appeals to me which is why am considering a second LSV to TV. I just wish TV was a truly gated community. I have a home in one now and feel safe and secure at all times. It is well patrolled 24 hours a day and if for example a person leaves a garage door up at night he receives a call from security letting him know. I want that lifestyle thank you very much!

[Guest]

I think that one of the reasons that the "real world" in The Villages is so nice is that with age we have learned a lot of things.

Many of us have learned to not harshly judge another person for their differences.

Most of us have learned to not repeat gossip or hurtful things.

Life has taught us that money isn't everything.

Some of us know that what comes around goes around.

We also know that there are fewer years ahead than there are behind and it is a sad shame to waste them.

Most of us here have learned that it is better to give a hug, a compliment, a smile than to keep it all hidden inside where it does no good.

We have learned that the future is now. It is NOW time to dance.

P.S. There are a few s$$theads who haven't learned any of this stuff.

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He is a Villager who is married to a just retired teacher from Marion County. He has been here about 9 years I would guess and is eager to leave the Villages to go live near family in North Carolina. He is very active-- or was very active-- in the campaign to elect Obama/Biden in 2008 and did frequently voice his support of Obama and his policies.

Not all people really are a very good fit with the Villages. He was very active in the politics of Marion county though while he lived in the Villages so I would find it hard that he would say he missed reality.

In 2010, it seems like Obama and his supporters are getting too much from reality.

We've been here four years, and were very active in the campaign to elect Obama and Biden. And we've found ourselves to be a good fit in The Villages. There is something for everyone here. There are a number of Democratic clubs and places where Liberals, or those who are broad-minded and are open to new ideas for progress, can get together.

[Guest]

Gracie,you're the best!!

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I think I've heard the "real world" comment all my life. You shouldn't move from the inner city to the suburbs because it isn't the real world. You should keep your kids in urban schools and not look to live in a great school district because it isn't the real world. I would like to ask that gentleman to define "real world". Is it where people live, eat, love, enjoy themselves, experience the full range of human emotions such as happiness and suffering and depression? If so, then TV is as real as it gets and I am proud to be part of it. I am even grateful for the "grumpies" because they remind me on a daily basis that it is one's personal attitude that determines your outlook.

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They say the the United States is right of center politically. The Villages is an example of what could happen when a man of vision, like Gary Morse, can pursue his dream in this great country.
Yes, the villages is subject to the laws of the land, but basically it is a private sector accomplishment. and everybody is welcome no matter what their political or religious beliefs.
In my opinion, this is the real world.

[Guest]

And what is so wonderful about the "real world" ???:

I had a lifelong friend who decided she wanted nothing more to do with me after a 58 year friendship. Her reasoning was that TV was nothing but a fantasy land full of" brain dead space cadets! "(her exact words)

I believe the Villages is place where people are constantly helping others in one way or another. Every day the paper is full of articles about volunteers raising money and helping charitable organizations in and around TV. We just believe in having some enjoyment while doing it. I feel truly blessed to have found this wonderful place to live out our golden years.

Nonie,
I bet she misses you.
Kitty

[Guest]

They say the the United States is right of center politically. The Villages is an example of what could happen when a man of vision, like Gary Morse, can pursue his dream in this great country.
Yes, the villages is subject to the laws of the land, but basically it is a private sector accomplishment. and everybody is welcome no matter what their political or religious beliefs.
In my opinion, this is the real world.

I don't know who "they" is, but whethere or not the US is right of center is neither here nor there, and has nothing to do with people finding their "place" in The Villages.

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I don't know who "they" is, but whethere or not the US is right of center is neither here nor there, and has nothing to do with people finding their "place" in The Villages.

It is those "broad-minded" polls that we see every day. It was you that mentioned a place for democrats and I am just saying it is a place for everybody.

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It is those "broad-minded" polls that we see every day. It was you that mentioned a place for democrats and I am just saying it is a place for everybody.

If you can read carefully, you will note that Tal's post seemed to imply that the person was not happy here because he was an active Democrat. My post was to clarify that there are plenty of Democrats here, and they are happy. Your comment about the US being right of center, is your view, not based on fact, and has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread . I know some people are afraid of moving to the Villages because they think they will be surrounded by a bunch of right wing fanatics. Yes, those types of people are here, as evidenced by some of the posters on the blog, but there are plenty of us who think in a more progressive direction. The Villages if for everyone, on that we can agree.

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If you can read carefully, you will note that Tal's post seemed to imply that the person was not happy here because he was an active Democrat. My post was to clarify that there are plenty of Democrats here, and they are happy. Your comment about the US being right of center, is your view, not based on fact, and has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread . I know some people are afraid of moving to the Villages because they think they will be surrounded by a bunch of right wing fanatics. Yes, those types of people are here, as evidenced by some of the posters on the blog, but there are plenty of us who think in a more progressive direction. The Villages if for everyone, on that we can agree.

Yes, it is for everyone. And since you enjoy labeling people, the Villages are also tolerant of left-wing extremists as evidenced by a few posters here. You may be in denial, but the USA is definitely right of center but unfortunately it seems to be drifting the other way.

[Guest]

I think that one of the reasons that the "real world" in The Villages is so nice is that with age we have learned a lot of things.

Many of us have learned to not harshly judge another person for their differences.

Most of us have learned to not repeat gossip or hurtful things.

Life has taught us that money isn't everything.

Some of us know that what comes around goes around.

We also know that there are fewer years ahead than there are behind and it is a sad shame to waste them.

Most of us here have learned that it is better to give a hug, a compliment, a smile than to keep it all hidden inside where it does no good.

We have learned that the future is now. It is NOW time to dance.

P.S. There are a few s$$theads who haven't learned any of this stuff.


I've said it before, now I'll say it again. Graciegirl, you always know EXACTLY what to say. :mademyday:

[Guest]

Yes, it is for everyone. And since you enjoy labeling people, the Villages are also tolerant of left-wing extremists as evidenced by a few posters here. You may be in denial, but the USA is definitely right of center but unfortunately it seems to be drifting the other way.

The more liberal this country becomes, the happier I become. Here is the definition of Liberal from the dictionary: Liberal - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. ... in my opinion, these are all qualities we should aspire to. If that makes me a left wing extremist, I'm proud.

[Guest]

The more liberal this country becomes, the happier I become. Here is the definition of Liberal from the dictionary: Liberal - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. ... in my opinion, these are all qualities we should aspire to. If that makes me a left wing extremist, I'm proud.

I really think you have carried this discussion too far. You have completely hijacked this thread when you posted your support for Obama-Biden. Your liberalism may suit you just dandy but it will ruin the USA and our great grandchildren will have to pay for the debt it has created. Your support for your candidate should have been posted in the Political Forum.

I really think the moderators should stop this thread.

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I really think you have carried this discussion too far. You have completely hijacked this thread when you posted your support for Obama-Biden. Your liberalism may suit you just dandy but it will ruin the USA and our great grandchildren will have to pay for the debt it has created. Your support for your candidate should have been posted in the Political Forum.

I really think the moderators should stop this thread.

You don't seem to have grasped my original quote which was regarding the fact that there are Democrats in The Villages and they are happy here. It was not meant to be a political post. Simply stated, that all political parties reside here and are happy in The Villages. There is a place for everyone.

You raised the ante when you mouthed off about this country being right of center, in your opinion. That statement had absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the threads. Then you talked about how unhappy you are that the country is moving in the opposite direction, i.e. liberalism, as though that is a dirty word. If anyone raised this discussion to political, it was you, fella.

If I wanted to have this type of discussion, I'd be in Political, but I'm not, for a reason.

I won't be responding anymore to this nonsense.

[Guest]

all I can say is WOW, reminds me of discussion forums I had for my online classes BEFORE I would teach Huck Finn, answering the question should it be banned in public education

I am a wannabe, hopefully soon to be frog, let's just all get along, everyone is different and that is a good thing, these forums have given me a new perspective and hope for living, literally, until I found TOTV by accident in January I was lost due to a medical diagnosis,

everyone here is WONDERFUL as far as I am concerned, keep all in perspective, just remember "Someday is Today",

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You don't seem to have grasped my original quote which was regarding the fact that there are Democrats in The Villages and they are happy here. It was not meant to be a political post. Simply stated, that all political parties reside here and are happy in The Villages. There is a place for everyone.

You raised the ante when you mouthed off about this country being right of center, in your opinion. That statement had absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the threads. Then you talked about how unhappy you are that the country is moving in the opposite direction, i.e. liberalism, as though that is a dirty word. If anyone raised this discussion to political, it was you, fella.

If I wanted to have this type of discussion, I'd be in Political, but I'm not, for a reason.

I won't be responding anymore to this nonsense.

By using that expression "mouthed off" shows your real intent.. All I said was that the USA is right of center and unfortunately (for the country) that it might be edging left. I never mentioned if I was happy or not happy.
You really should be posting your views in Political, not here. All I did was state a fact form unbiased polls.

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Pats2010, on any given day it seems that Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin or Sean Hannity or Mitt Romney is visiting The Villages. You can read the local paper and be entertained by Ann Coulter and Ollie North. Check out the owner's profile:
http://www.nndb.com/people/314/000118957/ You are in heaven. Be happy.

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I really think you have carried this discussion too far. You have completely hijacked this thread when you posted your support for Obama-Biden. Your liberalism may suit you just dandy but it will ruin the USA and our great grandchildren will have to pay for the debt it has created. Your support for your candidate should have been posted in the Political Forum.

I really think the moderators should stop this thread.


I agree. Taj44 hijacked the thread.

[Guest]

This guy will not be happy anywhere he lives.

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Pats2010, on any given day it seems that Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin or Sean Hannity or Mitt Romney is visiting The Villages. You can read the local paper and be entertained by Ann Coulter and Ollie North. Check out the owner's profile:
http://www.nndb.com/people/314/000118957/ You are in heaven. Be happy.

LOL I have had the great fortune to have resided in a community that has two newspapers of opposing views for over 50 years. Friendly debate is informing and healthy in my opinion.
I do not live down there yet but my house is on the market. I look forward to living in Mr. Morse's community. I did a lifestyle visit and have lurked here on TOTV for a long time. Very impressive!!!!

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I misunderstood TalkHost.

I thought he moved THIS thread to Political.

[Guest]

I misunderstood TalkHost.

I thought he moved THIS thread to Political.

:confused:

[Guest]

I misunderstood TalkHost.

I thought he moved THIS thread to Political.

Hi Gracie. Slumming again. hehe

I guess they moved this thread to Political.

Maybe it is a plot to get more people to sign up for political forum.:D

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Yesterday, I was standing talking to a group of men that I had never met before when one asked me how long I had been in The Villages. 3 months I replied adding that my wife and I really enjoyed it here. One of the men loudly stated " I have been here 9 years and if my house ever sells I will be gone." He followed that immediately with "This place has nothing to do with the reality of the real world and I want the H++l out of here." Well, silence was obvious over the group and as I thought about what he said for about 15 seconds, I said in an almost questioning tone "We moved here and enjoy this place because of the reality of the real world." I guess the questioning tone to my statement was there as I was questioning whether we had made the right decision for us.

Now this morning, still thinking of the strange conversation, I still feel the statement I said reflects my feelings. My wife and I spent our lives in many different places around the world to include my 22 years military service. Now understand, we are not trying to escape the Real World, but at our age, our contributions to the real world and simply because we do love this place, I cannot accept that we are being less than genuine in our choice of location for retirement. I also do not feel that we are fleeing responsibility to the real world for living here.

There is no point or moral to this post, just to say that we as a couple feel this is right for us.


I just had to go back an read my original post again to confirm at least to myself that I did not say or even indicate a lean in the direction of Political. I am on a quest to keep my political views to myself as much as I possibly can. Just call me INDEPENDENT LOU WITH NO VIEW.

:wave:

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I am confused....we have a thread here that began, I think, without any political meaning or leaning.

We then have folks come in and talk about being Democratic in a Republican area.

We have a thread that was discussing the merits or demerits of living in the Villages, and made into something political.


I doubt very much if 99% of the folks living here CARE ONE IOTA what the predominant party is here, and I feel sorry for those who live ANYWHERE and make that so important as a few posters have done.

What the #$%% does the political landscape have to do with your retirement home ? And IF it is that important, why didn't you do some investigation...pretty easy place to figure out. Thus,...stop whining.

I have NEVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE and I have been here for 10 years or so...EVER ONCE had a new acquaintence ask me my political party nor have I ever ever in my life lost a friend because of my political leanings.

This thread WAS hijacked and those who did need a real life check up !

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I just had to go back an read my original post again to confirm at least to myself that I did not say or even indicate a lean in the direction of Political. I am on a quest to keep my political views to myself as much as I possibly can. Just call me INDEPENDENT LOU WITH NO VIEW.

:wave:

ditto :BigApplause:

[Guest]

How does a thread get "moved"?

Why does a thread get "moved"?

[Guest]

How does a thread get "moved"?

Why does a thread get "moved"?

Our kind and ever-vigilant administrators monitor this forum and when posters stray or post in inapproriate places, they will move posts to the proper forums or gently chide them about undesireable forum behavior. If there is not a forum to address certain interests and there seems to be a need, they will start a new forum for us. Does that about cover it, Tony? Hope that answers your question, Sista.

[Guest]

Weird, this thread started out talking about a guy who wanted to leave TV after 9 years and a whole bunch of people posting about how great it was living in TV and "wishing the guy luck" as he moved on. One or 2 people start mentioning anything about politics and instead of just deleting a couple of posts, the whole thread gets moved to the political forum ? I just don't get the reasoning why this thread (90 posts) has been moved here. That means that all anybody has to do to get any thread that anybody wants to get moved out of the general view is to enter a post or two about politics. Just doesn't sound right to me.

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I was out of pocket for a couple days. Had planned to rejoin this conversation. I'm disappointed to see that it turned political. Oh well.

[Guest]

I was out of pocket for a couple days. Had planned to rejoin this conversation. I'm disappointed to see that it turned political. Oh well.


My Names Bennitt and I ain't Innit.