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Guest
08-19-2010, 12:08 PM
With our current government , I decided to read the Constitution at its inception (which I haven't done in quite a while) and compare it with today.

Here it is:
http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm

Guest
08-20-2010, 06:45 AM
Thanks islandgal for the link. It is a straightforward document that spells out the principles of liberty and freedom. The restrictions on the powers of a central federal government are evident. Even keeping balance in the federal government is an elementary tool for governance by the people on the local level.

Thomas Sowell has a recent op/ed about the US Constitution and how some Americans are dismantling our country to a point of no return.


http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/244252/point-no-return-thomas-sowell

Have you read The Federalist Papers?

http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/

Guest
08-20-2010, 07:26 AM
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Guest
08-20-2010, 08:29 AM
Thanks islandgal for the link. It is a straightforward document that spells out the principles of liberty and freedom. The restrictions on the powers of a central federal government are evident. Even keeping balance in the federal government is an elementary tool for governance by the people on the local level.

Thomas Sowell has a recent op/ed about the US Constitution and how some Americans are dismantling our country to a point of no return.


http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/244252/point-no-return-thomas-sowell

Have you read The Federalist Papers?

http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/
Linking to National Review Online, a conservative weblog, to make a point kind of pushed this thread into political.

Guest
08-20-2010, 08:34 AM
Linking to National Review Online, a conservative weblog, to make a point kind of pushed this thread into political.

I agree. As did the opening comment, "With our current government".

Guest
08-20-2010, 09:09 AM
No, The Constitution is not political because it is for ALL parties and citizens to know.

Yes The link should not be in this thread.

Guest
08-20-2010, 09:28 AM
I placed the Constitution purposely for all to see because many posters have said they dare not go into the political forum.
The point was for all to see. Where else would you suggest?
How quickly we get off the subject.

Guest
08-20-2010, 09:51 AM
No, The Constitution is not political because it is for ALL parties and citizens to know.

Yes The link should not be in this thread.
There is no doubt that our Constitution is a document that is incredibly well written and a testament to our Founding Fathers' wisdom. Having a Legislative, an Executive, and a Judicial branch has been a fantastic system of checks and balances.

You are absolutely correct, and people who make a political ballyhoo out our Constitution do an injustice to it.

Guest
08-20-2010, 10:33 AM
I placed the Constitution purposely for all to see because many posters have said they dare not go into the political forum.
The point was for all to see. Where else would you suggest?
How quickly we get off the subject.
Perhaps, as another reply suggested, you had omitted your opening line "With our current government" the thread would have at least started out neutral.

Guest
08-20-2010, 02:16 PM
Perhaps, as another reply suggested, you had omitted your opening line "With our current government" the thread would have at least started out neutral.

I agree.

Guest
08-20-2010, 06:04 PM
I agree. As did the opening comment, "With our current government".

Don't you guys ever give it a rest? I think she was comparing the government now with the one over 200 years ago.Sheeeeeez

Guest
08-20-2010, 06:45 PM
Thanks Pats2010,
Out of 9 posts, only 3 have responded to subject of the post.:shrug:
The Constitution of the United States of America.
Just thought some might want to just sit back and refresh themselves on it. Guess not.

Guest
08-21-2010, 07:18 PM
Linking to National Review Online, a conservative weblog, to make a point kind of pushed this thread into political.

National Review is not a weblog. It is a conservative magazine that has been around since 1955. It is very educational and contains news, commentary and op/eds on a variety of topics.

The Thomas Sowell op/ed I linked gives views on cultural and social issues, not politics. Sowell, among many other achievements, is a highly recognized economist and intellectual thinker. One of the great minds of our generation.

Guest
08-21-2010, 08:16 PM
National Review is not a weblog. It is a conservative magazine that has been around since 1955. It is very educational and contains news, commentary and op/eds on a variety of topics.

The Thomas Sowell op/ed I linked gives views on cultural and social issues, not politics. Sowell, among many other achievements, is a highly recognized economist and intellectual thinker. One of the great minds of our generation.
bk, let us parse Natiional Revue Online: National Revue --- a bi-weekly magazine founded by William F. Buckley in 1955. and Online -- a reference to the internet and the World Wide Web. Put the two together and you have a webzine. An article written in an editorial manner in a webzine is a weblog. BTW, I admired William F Buckley.

Guest
08-21-2010, 08:33 PM
Would it have been interesting if our Founding Father's had blogged the Federalist Papers? Alexander Hamilton's blog. LOL

Guest
08-21-2010, 08:45 PM
Would it have been interesting if our Founding Father's had blogged the Federalist Papers? Alexander Hamilton's blog. LOL
That's a great thought. Imagine if John Adams had a blog? His Thoughts On Government would have been perfect material.

Guest
08-21-2010, 08:50 PM
That would be a perfect thread to start in the Political Forum and get some ideas about Chi-Town. I'd be the first to post.

Guest
08-22-2010, 08:21 AM
Thank you for posting this, oftentimes we hear that something is protected by the constitution or that the federal government has power over something when in reality it is not in the Constitution. The founding fathers took a very minimalistic approach to what the federal government had power over on purpose and made it very difficult to amend the Constitution on purpose as well. The Constitution is a timeless document which has served this country well since its inception.

Guest
08-22-2010, 08:54 PM
This was originally posted in one of the other forums and moved here for being political. I never thought I would see the day that a thread regarding the Constitution of the US would offend people in this country. Oh well, times we live in !

Guest
08-22-2010, 10:35 PM
This was originally posted in one of the other forums and moved here for being political. I never thought I would see the day that a thread regarding the Constitution of the US would offend people in this country. Oh well, times we live in !

Unfortunately there are beliefs in certain movements that are actually "put off" by the constitution and think it is out dated. Progressive types think that the constitution is a "living document" that should be changed or altered to fit new trends. One or two on our own Supreme Court said that we should look for trends in other countries as an example for altering ours.

But, of course, they don't say that when they are being questioned before Congress votes on their lifetime appointment .

Guest
08-23-2010, 05:51 AM
The only thing about the Constitution that makes it "living" is the fact that we can amend it and the Founding Fathers provided a mechanism for that.

Guest
08-23-2010, 07:20 AM
The only thing about the Constitution that makes it "living" is the fact that we can amend it and the Founding Fathers provided a mechanism for that.

Yes, but court decisions are by the vote.