Is this a sign of the times?

[Clarinet]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

[EdFNJ]

Very sad. Should anyone be surprised since it (civil unrest) has obviously been the "plan" for a few months ?

[Dahabs]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

Gerrymandering, voter suppression and refusal to accept results are pretty much disqualifying as a bright shining example of democracy.

[Two Bills]

All the great dynasties and empires since history began, have all been destroyed from within.
Unfortunately ignoring or denying history is still a default mode!

[thelegges]

Durning an major event, one can be given a 4 hour notice. Years back it was for the thanksgiving parade. Then for the Stanley Cup parade. Guess government was worried about an uprising then too.

[Art cov]

Ask Maxine

[SIRE1]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

Just out of curiosity, what state is your son in? I wonder if this advisory was sent to the National Guard in all states or just to a few select states where possible trouble was anticipated. Regardless, I sure hope it is not needed. Could 2020 get even worse?????

[Bucco]

This is what our country is coming to? If the one side wins there will be more destruction in our country. If the other side wins they won't destruct our country. Threats if one side doesn't get it's way.

So sad.

You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926139270/voters-in-florida-and-alaska-receive-emails-warning-vote-for-trump-or-else)

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS (https://wlos.com/news/local/is-there-a-real-safety-threat-to-nc-voters)

[Taltarzac725]

This is probably just a necessary precaution. And stupidity does not have a political party.

[Going My Way]

You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Wondering if that Crooked Women has anything to do with this, she'll do anything! :rolleyes:

[Taltarzac725]

No, but they need someone to tell them where to go and what to burn down.

False. The riots in Minneapolis were by people with very little burning down the businesses that served them. Stupid. And you will find other such stupid actions done by people with other interests.

[Bucco]

"..... officials have pointed the finger at left-wing anarchists and anti-fascists during protests against police brutality and racism over the summer, but federal court records provide little evidence showing those arrested for violent acts had affiliations to far-left groups.

Last week, the top two DHS officials acknowledged in congressional hearings, however, that white supremacists have posed the most lethal domestic threat to the United States in recent years."


U.S. intelligence reports warn of extremist threat around election | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-extremists/u-s-intelligence-reports-warn-of-extremist-threat-around-election-idUSKBN26K2J7)

[Mrprez]

False. The riots in Minneapolis were by people with very little burning down the businesses that served them. Stupid. And you will find other such stupid actions done by people with other interests.

I disagree. There is a controlling factor here that is driving all this dissent. Outside agitators were the lightning rods here.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Sorry you were in a coma or watching the wrong News channel but yes our cities are burning...

1. That isn't something that "is" happening (present tense). It's something that happened (past tense) back in May. Minnesota is not burning.
2. The fire at Arby's was not set as a protest against a political party. It was a protest against the killing of George Floyd by four white police officers. Whether you agree with the killing or not, that's just the fact. That is why that fire was set. To protest a black guy being killed by four white cops.
3. The fire wasn't set by any particular political party.
4. This thread is about (surprise surprise) politics. Not about racism, the perception of racism, or lack thereof.

[Bucco]

I disagree. There is a controlling factor here that is driving all this dissent. Outside agitators were the lightning rods here.

Can you supply the name of the "lightning rod" and more importantly since you make such a general accusation, links or some validation for your claim.

Thanks

[Bucco]

Cities are still rioting but the AP news writers guide advised not using the word rioting as it takes away from their Marxist goals. So you’re not likely to see the truth in most media outlets. l

And if you read anything about that, you would understand WHY, but choice of words seems far removed from the importance of the story.

Do you actually know the definition of "marxism" or are you simply mouthing what someone told you ??

[billethkid]

Let us all keep in mind that the unrest is by the very few that get the attention and coverage that makes it seem/feel more widespread.
In today's fast response media and social posting incidents are scaled to sensationalism to draw attention.

Note that in the rioting locations there is there rarely any contact by the reporting with the average citizenry just down the way.

That, to me is the trend...

[coffeebean]

~~~

[Nevermore]

Sure hope we have a very peaceful and orderly election.

Terrible if this is a signal to riot and destroy

Only one candidate keeps talking about not accepting the results and telling followers to stand back and stand by

[justjim]

It’s the far right and the far left that are the problems. The vast majority of us have good friends who are D’s and good friends who are R’s. and we are reasonable rational passionate Americans. As far as the looting and fires they were looters and criminals not one of us. As far as the threat emails, FBI reported they are coming from outside the USA not one of us reasonable Americans.

[Bucco]

Only one candidate keeps talking about not accepting the results and telling followers to stand back and stand by

Want to bet if that candidate loses, there will be violence and in addition, want to guess who gets blamed.

Scary read about another of the ext reme and violent groups that are poised.

Right-Wing Militias Are Bracing for Civil War - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/right-wing-militias-civil-war/616473/)

Or

Dangerous network of militia members led by Ammon Bundy has spread to 16 states, report says (https://www.registerguard.com/story/news/2020/10/18/dangerous-network-militia-members-led-ammon-bundy-has-spread-16-states-report-says/3686003001/)

Or

"Far-right groups are planning to patrol polling sites on Election Day, some of them armed, causing experts to worry about the possibility of violent clashes and voter intimidation."


Armed groups say they will show up at polling sites on Election Day - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/armed-groups-planning-to-monitor-polling-sites-on-election-day-2020-10)

"FBI agents in the Dallas field office are warning of the likelihood that far-right extremists will use the presidential election as a “flashpoint” to further sow anti-government sentiment through rhetoric and potential violence."

Dallas FBI Warns Against Right-Wing Extremist Violence Ahead of Election - D Magazine (https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2020/10/dallas-fbi-warns-against-right-wing-extremist-violence-ahead-of-election/)

[graciegirl]

It’s the far right and the far left that are the problems. The vast majority of us have good friends who are D’s and good friends who are R’s. and we are reasonable rational passionate Americans. As far as the looting and fires they were looters and criminals not one of us. As far as the threat emails, FBI reported they are coming from outside the USA not one of us reasonable Americans.

Well said.

As usual.

Thank you, JustJim.

[Bucco]

It’s the far right and the far left that are the problems. The vast majority of us have good friends who are D’s and good friends who are R’s. and we are reasonable rational passionate Americans. As far as the looting and fires they were looters and criminals not one of us. As far as the threat emails, FBI reported they are coming from outside the USA not one of us reasonable Americans.

You are generally correct in your comments.

The extreme right wing groups are newer, and are getting attention from our highest leaders.

I suggest all read about these groups. They have been traveling all over our country, doing what they do. They are not only well armed, but trained in what they want to accomplish. This is not about a small group...these are people "looking for trouble" and until someone speaks out and condemns, they will become more emboldened and dangerous.

You recal, the outrage in Philadelphia a few years ago. I believe there were 3 men armed and alone at one polling place. Not an armed and trained militia.

The left wing groups have been around, not nearly as well armed or trained but certainly dangerous, but we only condemn them

Someone is going to get hurt.

We have become Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans, instead of being Americans either Republican or Democrat.

[Mrprez]

Can you supply the name of the "lightning rod" and more importantly since you make such a general accusation, links or some validation for your claim.

Thanks

Wish I knew. If it were common knowledge, it would not be reported. Who is putting up bail money for those arrested? Why does Jerry Nadler refute the existence of antifa. Who is paying to bus these agitators in from other locations.

[Bucco]

Wish I knew. If it were common knowledge, it would not be reported. Who is putting up bail money for those arrested? Why does Jerry Nadler refute the existence of antifa. Who is paying to bus these agitators in from other locations.

Strange, you do not mention the extreme right wing groups who agitate and in many cases are the only violence at these demonstrations, but the answer is the same for all who participate.

As to Nadler...he never said they did not exist...he said they were not in Portland. If you have evidence of him saying different let me know.

I do not condone any violence, but as we all know, some groups are accused on a very high national basis, BUT if you search out the truth, you find about the Proud Boys, the Boogallo' etc.

BOTH ARE BAD NEWS, but those right wing groups never get criticized nationally (certainly never on this forum).

We just continue to label everyone, and mimic what we are told to say.

Of corse ANTIFA has been responsible for some bad actions, but it seems that they stand alone in so many minds. and my opinion is, all this street crap continues until you (generic you) accept that fact. Recently, these extremely violent militia groups have been empowered and fear no criticism from any quarter

U.S. prosecutors do not charge Portland protesters with antifa ties | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-antifa/u-s-prosecutors-do-not-charge-portland-protesters-with-antifa-ties-idUSKCN2502NQ)

And by the way, I am not even close to defending Jerry Nadler. Not a fan, just tired of extremists (of any ilk or side) using our streets as a playground. They (all of them equally) need to be called out for their actions.

[Doro22]

This is what our country is coming to? If the one side wins there will be more destruction in our country. If the other side wins they won't destruct our country. Threats if one side doesn't get it's way.

So sad.

Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. :pray:

[Mrprez]

Strange, you do not mention the extreme right wing groups who agitate and in many cases are the only violence at these demonstrations, but the answer is the same for all who participate.

As to Nadler...he never said they did not exist...he said they were not in Portland. If you have evidence of him saying different let me know.

I do not condone any violence, but as we all know, some groups are accused on a very high national basis, BUT if you search out the truth, you find about the Proud Boys, the Boogallo' etc.

BOTH ARE BAD NEWS, but those right wing groups never get criticized nationally (certainly never on this forum).

We just continue to label everyone, and mimic what we are told to say.

Of corse ANTIFA has been responsible for some bad actions, but it seems that they stand alone in so many minds. and my opinion is, all this street crap continues until you (generic you) accept that fact. Recently, these extremely violent militia groups have been empowered and fear no criticism from any quarter

U.S. prosecutors do not charge Portland protesters with antifa ties | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-antifa/u-s-prosecutors-do-not-charge-portland-protesters-with-antifa-ties-idUSKCN2502NQ)

And by the way, I am not even close to defending Jerry Nadler. Not a fan, just tired of extremists (of any ilk or side) using our streets as a playground. They (all of them equally) need to be called out for their actions.

He did say the antifa violence in Portland was a myth.

[Bucco]

He did say the antifa violence in Portland was a myth.

That’s what I said, the Justice department said, the FBI said, and the local newspapers said. You said that he said they flat out didn’t exist.

[Bucco]

Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. :pray:

And again, as said earlier ONLY ONE SIDE has said that publicly.

Any “side” who does anything has got to be “called on it”

[Topspinmo]

You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926139270/voters-in-florida-and-alaska-receive-emails-warning-vote-for-trump-or-else)

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS (https://wlos.com/news/local/is-there-a-real-safety-threat-to-nc-voters)

I guess you failed to get all the facts of where it came from

[Topspinmo]

Strange, you do not mention the extreme right wing groups who agitate and in many cases are the only violence at these demonstrations, but the answer is the same for all who participate.

As to Nadler...he never said they did not exist...he said they were not in Portland. If you have evidence of him saying different let me know.

I do not condone any violence, but as we all know, some groups are accused on a very high national basis, BUT if you search out the truth, you find about the Proud Boys, the Boogallo' etc.

BOTH ARE BAD NEWS, but those right wing groups never get criticized nationally (certainly never on this forum).

We just continue to label everyone, and mimic what we are told to say.

Of corse ANTIFA has been responsible for some bad actions, but it seems that they stand alone in so many minds. and my opinion is, all this street crap continues until you (generic you) accept that fact. Recently, these extremely violent militia groups have been empowered and fear no criticism from any quarter

U.S. prosecutors do not charge Portland protesters with antifa ties | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-antifa/u-s-prosecutors-do-not-charge-portland-protesters-with-antifa-ties-idUSKCN2502NQ)

And by the way, I am not even close to defending Jerry Nadler. Not a fan, just tired of extremists (of any ilk or side) using our streets as a playground. They (all of them equally) need to be called out for their actions.


corse ANTIFA has been responsible for some bad actions

Really some bad actions

[Topspinmo]

You are generally correct in your comments.

The extreme right wing groups are newer, and are getting attention from our highest leaders.

I suggest all read about these groups. They have been traveling all over our country, doing what they do. They are not only well armed, but trained in what they want to accomplish. This is not about a small group...these are people "looking for trouble" and until someone speaks out and condemns, they will become more emboldened and dangerous.

You recal, the outrage in Philadelphia a few years ago. I believe there were 3 men armed and alone at one polling place. Not an armed and trained militia.

The left wing groups have been around, not nearly as well armed or trained but certainly dangerous, but we only condemn them

Someone is going to get hurt.

We have become Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans, instead of being Americans either Republican or Democrat.

General correct, like know more than other than reading someone a opinion.

[Topspinmo]

False. The riots in Minneapolis were by people with very little burning down the businesses that served them. Stupid. And you will find other such stupid actions done by people with other interests.

And you were there? Naturally they where elsewhere to burn and loot.

[Lindsyburnsy]

This is terrifying. We never had this problem until now.My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

[Lindsyburnsy]

Have any of the 4 hour notices been for a general election uprising? I'm pretty old and I do not recall one time this happening until now. Wonder why that is?

Durning an major event, one can be given a 4 hour notice. Years back it was for the thanksgiving parade. Then for the Stanley Cup parade. Guess government was worried about an uprising then too.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Please follow the news on who actually has been arrested and charged with taking over and looting the police station and shouted "justice for George Floyd", yet they were actually right-wing extremists taking advantage of peaceful protests. The truth is not always followed up on when it doesn't suit the narrative.

Only one side is rioting and burning our cities to the ground.

[davem4616]

Just out of curiosity, what state is your son in? I wonder if this advisory was sent to the National Guard in all states or just to a few select states where possible trouble was anticipated. Regardless, I sure hope it is not needed. Could 2020 get even worse?????

The National Guard takes it's orders directly from the Governor of their State, not the Federal Government or any central authority....each state is going to mobilize differently, or not be asked to mobilize.

[Bucco]

So what was black panthers doing during Obama’s re-election. Funny how don’t bring up that? O wait it was sweep under the rug cause the political appointees in DOJ, FBI, and CIA.

I mentioned the two, maybe 3 men brandishing unloaded weapons at one precinct in Philadelphia.

Pales to traveling militias, well trained, well armed and they get from place to place quickly.

If you have evidence of “sweeping under the rug”, present it and if your “source” had a shred of evidence, more than making false accusations would have been done.

[John41]

I mentioned the two, maybe 3 men brandishing unloaded weapons at one precinct in Philadelphia.

Pales to traveling militias, well trained, well armed and they get from place to place quickly.

If you have evidence of “sweeping under the rug”, present it and if your “source” had a shred of evidence, more than making false accusations would have been done.

So you just made the case for the 2nd amendment per the requirement of ..Well trained militias.

[SIRE1]

I hate to say it, but after reading all of the replies from this one thread it would appear as if the Florida National Guard may have to be called to The Villages !!!! Are we going to go back to the "Friendliest Home Town" after this election or is our community going to be so divided we all won't even be able to go to the same Rec Center again? There is so much bitterness in these replies that it reminds me of my history classes when we learned about the events leading up to the Civil War where it was brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor. I can see it now, before you can enter a pool you will have to show your voter registration card indicating a D or an R instead of your Villager ID. For me, I'm voting for Jimmy Buffett for President !!!!! :icon_wink:

[Topspinmo]

I mentioned the two, maybe 3 men brandishing unloaded weapons at one precinct in Philadelphia.

Pales to traveling militias, well trained, well armed and they get from place to place quickly.

If you have evidence of “sweeping under the rug”, present it and if your “source” had a shred of evidence, more than making false accusations would have been done.

What part of sweeping under the rug don’t understand? There no evidence other than video cause it was not investigated.

[Scott O]

We all know who you think your referring to, but the reality is there’s only one party that hasn’t accepted the last 4 years vote...get over it, and leave your political remarks to yourself..

[camaguey48]

Did I miss something when did the rioting start, and what cities are now burning?
They are smoldering in ruins. Yes, you did miss something.

[Annie66]

Sorry you were in a coma or watching the wrong News channel but yes our cities are burning...

And what is the date of your photo? This week? Last month? Two years ago?

[camaguey48]

I hate to say it, but after reading all of the replies from this one thread it would appear as if the Florida National Guard may have to be called to The Villages !!!! Are we going to go back to the "Friendliest Home Town" after this election or is our community going to be so divided we all won't even be able to go to the same Rec Center again? There is so much bitterness in these replies that it reminds me of my history classes when we learned about the events leading up to the Civil War where it was brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor. I can see it now, before you can enter a pool you will have to show your voter registration card indicating a D or an R instead of your Villager ID. For me, I'm voting for Jimmy Buffett for President !!!!! :icon_wink:
Wasted again in Margaritaville? I needed a good laugh this morning.

[mrrmauu]

Gerrymandering, voter suppression and refusal to accept results are pretty much disqualifying as a bright shining example of democracy.

Voter suppression? LOL!!! Newsflash: it’s never been easier to vote in the history of all US elections. Time for an updated talking point.

[mrrmauu]

Want to bet if that candidate loses, there will be violence and in addition, want to guess who gets blamed.

Scary read about another of the ext reme and violent groups that are poised.

Right-Wing Militias Are Bracing for Civil War - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/right-wing-militias-civil-war/616473/)

Or

Dangerous network of militia members led by Ammon Bundy has spread to 16 states, report says (https://www.registerguard.com/story/news/2020/10/18/dangerous-network-militia-members-led-ammon-bundy-has-spread-16-states-report-says/3686003001/)

Or

"Far-right groups are planning to patrol polling sites on Election Day, some of them armed, causing experts to worry about the possibility of violent clashes and voter intimidation."


Armed groups say they will show up at polling sites on Election Day - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/armed-groups-planning-to-monitor-polling-sites-on-election-day-2020-10)

"FBI agents in the Dallas field office are warning of the likelihood that far-right extremists will use the presidential election as a “flashpoint” to further sow anti-government sentiment through rhetoric and potential violence."

Dallas FBI Warns Against Right-Wing Extremist Violence Ahead of Election - D Magazine (https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2020/10/dallas-fbi-warns-against-right-wing-extremist-violence-ahead-of-election/)

Lordy! Someone’s got a case of the vapors! LOL!

[billyb1950]

You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926139270/voters-in-florida-and-alaska-receive-emails-warning-vote-for-trump-or-else)

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS (https://wlos.com/news/local/is-there-a-real-safety-threat-to-nc-voters)

This has been proven to have been a hack job from overseas by foreign interference. Headlines without factual follow-through don't convey reality, especially by NPR or other liberal sources. The old adage "If it bleeds, it leads" is applicable here. Truth be damned.

[allsport]

Lies, lies and more lies, there are no riots or cities burning at the moment.

[Girlcopper]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!
Of course its expected. Look at the riots and mass destruction when a cop shoots someone? Its just a reason to act like animals. Bottom line

[MandoMan]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

They are expecting a giant golf cart rally in The Villages, possibly with shouting of naughty words, but with no littering.

[Clarinet]

The National Guard takes it's orders directly from the Governor of their State, not the Federal Government or any central authority....each state is going to mobilize differently, or not be asked to mobilize.

My son's unit not only has been notified to be on alert but has been recently issued combat style equipment and had some training in crowd control. The states do have initial control over their units and this unit will accompany the state police unless it is determined that the federal government will take control. If that is the case I expect we will see many states involved, if not all.

[oldtimes]

They are expecting a giant golf cart rally in The Villages, possibly with shouting of naughty words, but with no littering.

That’s funny

[Jazzman]

You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."



Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926139270/voters-in-florida-and-alaska-receive-emails-warning-vote-for-trump-or-else)

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS (https://wlos.com/news/local/is-there-a-real-safety-threat-to-nc-voters)

How can you state only one side is making threats? Where do you get your news to stay on top of current events, the Onion, National Enquirer? These e mails were identified last week as having been originated by Iran and possibly Russia. These e mails were not generated by either “side” here in the US.

[Taltarzac725]

National Guard Readies for Election Help if Governors Call (https://www.governing.com/next/National-Guard-Readies-for-Election-Help-if-Governors-Call.html)

I googled.

[Bay Kid]

Sooooo sad.

[tomhinz]

Come on, really?

[SacDQ]

We’re all old enough to remember the civil unrest of the “60’s”. Remember the song lyrics “Four dead in Ohio” . The anti war and racial equality riots in all the major across the country. We survived all that and our children will look back on these times as well.

HISTORY WILL ALWAYS REPEAT ITSELF.

[BlackhawksFan]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

Unfortunately we have a President and they have a cult leader who continues to refuse to say he will leave peacefully and honorably.

I hope your son doesn't get deployed and if he does may he stay safe.

[Jerry Leinsing]

During Vietnam conflict NHANG wound practice on weekends with rifles, helmets, and bayonets on the tarmac to quell protesters at Hampton Beach. Gov just following White House orders.

[sooziesoul]

I know of people in New Hampshire who have received letters saying if Trump wins, their homes will be burn down ! And that they should make sure that their homeowners insurance is paid !

[EviesGP]

It's all just sad!!! Both sides stoke division and then hatred amongst ourselves. The previous Prez did some stoking, the current Prez has had to defend his election from the start. HRC even said that Biden should not concede the results, and now they're pinning that same remark on current Prez. I rue the day when we had Reagan and Tip O'Neill working together, from different sides. 2021 couldn't come fast enough?! God Bless us all!

[Taltarzac725]

I know of people in New Hampshire who have received letters saying if Trump wins, their homes will be burn down ! And that they should make sure that their homeowners insurance is paid !

These are probably from some far right or far left agitators. Could be either one.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We’re all old enough to remember the civil unrest of the “60’s”. Remember the song lyrics “Four dead in Ohio” . The anti war and racial equality riots in all the major across the country. We survived all that and our children will look back on these times as well.

HISTORY WILL ALWAYS REPEAT ITSELF.

The Kent State shootings are exactly what comes to mind when I hear about the National Guard being called in to defend the government from its citizens (which is what they're proposing now).

The National Guard should always be ready to defend their citizens against rioting or other aggressive forms of civil unrest. Announcing the future deployment in advance is a threat, it's not a simple announcement of fact. It is a threat made by the government, against its citizenry.

[sloanst]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!

I watched Lara Logan last night. Her presentation "The Socialist Invasion" was informative. I suggest everyone watch it if they can.

[Going My Way]

And what is the date of your photo? This week? Last month? Two years ago?
Look at it this way, did the burning in cities happen recently by radicals, Yes or No?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Look at it this way, did the burning in cities happen recently by radicals, Yes or No?

It depends on what you consider to be radicals I suppose. It's said in some "news" sources that they were started by alt-right actors who were brought in from outside specifically to create riots, so that the cities would blame the residents of starting the fires. It's also said that it was Antifa. It's also said it was the organization called BLM (as opposed to the movement, which is not an organization). It's also said it was started by residents who snapped after years of constant holding in the tension as a result of racial discrimination in every facet of their lives.

So - was it radicals? Might have been. But WHICH radicals? Radicals serving which side? The alt-right, or leftists? Or something even uglier? Or maybe it was just a couple of locals who had enough, went nuts, and the rest of the collective neighborhood picked up on the momentum and joined in.

What's more important than "who started the fight" is "why there was a fight at all."

[Going My Way]

What's more important than "who started the fight" is "why there was a fight at all."

This person wailed and pleaded for help more than 30 times as Dallas police officers pinned his shoulders, knees and neck to the ground.
“You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me!”

A WHITE Man by the name of Tony Timpa, who was probably buried in Potter's field burial grounds ....
Were their any destruction or burning by animals or even paid radicals after that, No!

[PugMom]

:agree: You can almost feel the hatred when they talk or TYPE.....:ho:

YOU, are my hero. thanks for speaking truth...:a040:

[PugMom]

You are generally correct in your comments.

The extreme right wing groups are newer, and are getting attention from our highest leaders.

I suggest all read about these groups. They have been traveling all over our country, doing what they do. They are not only well armed, but trained in what they want to accomplish. This is not about a small group...these are people "looking for trouble" and until someone speaks out and condemns, they will become more emboldened and dangerous.

You recal, the outrage in Philadelphia a few years ago. I believe there were 3 men armed and alone at one polling place. Not an armed and trained militia.

The left wing groups have been around, not nearly as well armed or trained but certainly dangerous, but we only condemn them

Someone is going to get hurt.

We have become Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans, instead of being Americans either Republican or Democrat.

i would like to add just ONE comment to your perceptive post: look up a picture of the founder of Proud Boys. he is a brother of color. :super:

[LynnWM158]

You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926139270/voters-in-florida-and-alaska-receive-emails-warning-vote-for-trump-or-else)

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS (https://wlos.com/news/local/is-there-a-real-safety-threat-to-nc-voters)
This was proven to be a message from a foreign entity and not from any American Political party

[jimjamuser]

Ask Maxine
I assume you mean Maxine Waters? Are you going to blame her for threatening to NOT accept a peaceful transfer of power? She is not even significant enough to do that. And she has nothing to do with it anyway. She is NOT a problem. Not even a possible problem. So you want the National Guard to arrest her? I hope they can HANDLE her. She is pretty tough.

[meme5x]

I, unfortunately think your son is right..it’s so sad .. never thought the US would be like this 😢

[Bucco]

i would like to add just ONE comment to your perceptive post: look up a picture of the founder of Proud Boys. he is a brother of color. :super:

I could care less about the color of his skin, or anyone's for that matter.

The fact that is important to you is telling.

[Bucco]

I, unfortunately think your son is right..it’s so sad .. never thought the US would be like this ������

In my wildest dreams did I ever think, or could believe that my country would become so "third world", and while we always have had enemies, I never thought my country would be looked down on by the rest of the world, and frankly in every area you can name.

Nobody in the world believes us anymore, nor trusts us, nor even respects us.

But we are "macho" putting people in their place

[Bucco]

This was proven to be a message from a foreign entity and not from any American Political party

Much of the disruption has its seed in foreign land, as it did in 2016.

However, our government does not condemn as it happens and happily passes on the messages.

The source is bad and worth discussion, but why you avoid these things as if they were not happening, or pretending it is only “one side”, is alarming.

I want the country to win, not a singular party or candidate.

[Marine1974]

We already are experiencing rioting , looting and
violence toward our police departments. Now we see violence toward citizens at political events . I’m sure it will even get worse with one of the possible outcomes of the Presidential election. 4 hours notice is extreme , I hope the national Guard get some kind of compensation for their time .

[Aloha1]

You are right. Only one side is making threats..

"Voters in Alaska and Florida reported receiving emails on Tuesday that threatened "vote for Trump or else!" — messages that have prompted investigations in both states.

"You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure," said one of the emails obtained by Alaska Public Media. "You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply."


Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!' Sent To Voters In Florida And Alaska : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926139270/voters-in-florida-and-alaska-receive-emails-warning-vote-for-trump-or-else)

Is there a real safety threat to NC voters? | WLOS (https://wlos.com/news/local/is-there-a-real-safety-threat-to-nc-voters)

Try to keep up. That is disinformation from Iran and Russia. Did you miss the FBI Alert on Television the other day?

[kenoc7]

My son is a member of our state's National Guard and has been given notice that he and all the members need to be ready on a 4 hour notice to deal with anticipated civil unrest during and following the upcoming election. I can't imagine the example we are displaying to the rest of the world who used to look at our democracy as a system of guidance. I expect most, if not all, of the states are taking similar precautions. Sad !!!
I can assuire you the world doesn't look at the USA as a shining example of democracy. In fact, over the last four years it has become a laughing stock around the world

[Bucco]

Try to keep up. That is disinformation from Iran and Russia. Did you miss the FBI Alert on Television the other day?

Thanks for your concern. Believe me, I am trying to "keep up".

The quote is from a local North Carolina newspaper about the election cycle in North Carolina and the "stars" of it are local affiliations with USA politician.

[jimjamuser]

I hate to say it, but after reading all of the replies from this one thread it would appear as if the Florida National Guard may have to be called to The Villages !!!! Are we going to go back to the "Friendliest Home Town" after this election or is our community going to be so divided we all won't even be able to go to the same Rec Center again? There is so much bitterness in these replies that it reminds me of my history classes when we learned about the events leading up to the Civil War where it was brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor. I can see it now, before you can enter a pool you will have to show your voter registration card indicating a D or an R instead of your Villager ID. For me, I'm voting for Jimmy Buffett for President !!!!! :icon_wink:
CV is causing an acceleration of change according to History experts. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer - this was basically caused by Federal tax policy. CV has accelerated that wealth disparity. Even the bubble of TV Land has been affected....polarized. Sometimes over minute and non-productive issues, like wearing masks. Bizzare ideas of conspiracy are being circulated. A lot of the strangeness and hostility started as a backlash against the 1st Black President. Society got into a whiplash of the left of center against the right of center. The next months until Jan 20th is going to be filled with some magnitude (large or small) of drama and unrest. Hopefully, the pendulum will swing back to a moderate middle.

[Bucco]

A few months ago a columnist from the Irish Times wrote this.....

"“Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity,”

Did an Irish Times Column Express 'Pity' for the US? (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/irish-times-fintan-otoole/)

then this from the Pittsburgh newspaper

Timothy Egan: The world is taking pity on us | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2020/05/12/Timothy-Egan-American-prestige-world-pity/stories/202005120010)


In Germany....

US election 2020: Why it matters so much to Germans - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54522984)

In Canada...

"TORONTO -- Canadians’ opinions of their neighbour and biggest trading partner sank to record lows over the past year, with more than three in five Canadians holding an unfavourable view of the United States and a growing minority who see the country as an enemy, according to the Environics Institute survey, Focus Canada, published on Thursday."

https://www.ctv

You can travel the globe and we are not respected any longer as a leader or in anyway

[TOTV Team]

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