Dr, Fauci states that a nationwide mask mandate may be needed

[coffeebean]

Up front, would like to say if any of you do want want to read another mask thread, please feel free not to read any further...............

Not enough Americans are heading the advice of the experts to wear a mask when in public. Dr. Fauci weighs in on this divisive virus mitigation........

Fauci Says Nationwide Face Mask Rule May Be Needed (https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201024/fauci-says-nationwide-face-mask-rule-may-be-needed)

[dewilson58]

The cow is out of the barn.

[saratogaman]

Wearing a mask is such a simple, cheap way to reduce the spread of new infections. We may be carrying the virus without knowing it. As for "freedom," do any of us have the "right" to infect others?

[Art cov]

We have seen the left n the right without their mask. They tell the public what to do but they usually don’t themselves. Restaurants, hair salons, parties, sporting events. We can do as they do and not as they tell us to do. I’m surprised they have sporting events! Sooner or later the looney tunes will try to stop everything.

[Boomer]

Damnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnit

I kept saying if the pseudo-patriotic anti-maskers did not get a grip on reality and at least try to use all we've got, they would end up screwing up the economy -- even more -- with their contrary thinking and acting.

We have made no progress. Things are getting worse, not only with the virus, but for regular people's economic lives. And as of this week, the market is taking notice and taking a hit.

DamnitdamnitdamnitdamnitDAMNIT!

[coffeebean]

Some countries in Europe are resorting to lock downs again. I do not want to see any lock downs but I would like to see every American do their part to slow the spread of this virus. That means wearing a mask and social distancing.

[Bucco]

Damnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnit

I kept saying if the pseudo-patriotic anti-maskers did not get a grip on reality and at least try to use all we've got, they would end up screwing up the economy -- even more -- with their contrary thinking and acting.

We have made no progress. Things are getting worse, not only with the virus, but for regular people's economic lives. And as of this week, the market is taking notice and taking a hit.

DamnitdamnitdamnitdamnitDAMNIT!

Definition of patriotism has done a funny turn.

Used to be about "doing" for your country. Now simply put a flag somewhere, talk loud, and proclaim yourself a patriot.

"pseudo-patriotic" is a great description

[Lindsyburnsy]

I just don't understand why wearing mask is such a decisive matter. It isn't difficult. It doesn't hurt. You don't get disease from wearing a mask. When our grandchildren examine history in 2020 and the COVID19, they are surely going to think we have lost our minds over not wearing a mask that has been proven to protect us by more than any vaccine will do. Just mindbogling. People don't want to wear a mask, but they want to bring an AK15 to Walmart. Insanity!

Up front, would like to say if any of you do want want to read another mask thread, please feel free not to read any further...............

Not enough Americans are heading the advice of the experts to wear a mask when in public. Dr. Fauci weighs in on this divisive virus mitigation........

Fauci Says Nationwide Face Mask Rule May Be Needed (https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201024/fauci-says-nationwide-face-mask-rule-may-be-needed)

[Boomer]

Some countries in Europe are resorting to lock downs again. I do not want to see any lock downs but I would like to see every American do their part to slow the spread of this virus. That means wearing a mask and social distancing.

Yes. And stop hanging around together in Petri dishes.

[mrrmauu]

I just don't understand why wearing mask is such a decisive matter. It isn't difficult. It doesn't hurt. You don't get disease from wearing a mask. When our grandchildren examine history in 2020 and the COVID19, they are surely going to think we have lost our minds over not wearing a mask that has been proven to protect us by more than any vaccine will do. Just mindbogling. People don't want to wear a mask, but they want to bring an AK15 to Walmart. Insanity!

We could eliminate MANY more deaths by all hiding in our basements with a mask on 24/7. We can also eliminate many deaths by reducing the speed limit on all roads to 5 mph. It’s called taking a calculated risk, it’s called living life.

[PugMom]

:popcorn:

[kannon]

Definition of patriotism has done a funny turn.

Used to be about "doing" for your country. Now simply put a flag somewhere, talk loud, and proclaim yourself a patriot.

"pseudo-patriotic" is a great description

Totally agree. There was a generation that made great sacrifices during WWII. In the front line and from back home, there was a patriotic cohesiveness that was developed to rid the world of evil. But we can't do that do. We are not talking about rationing sugar or meat or going to the main front, but just wearing a mask. I wear a mask. I don't love it. But it's so easy to do to maybe protect that neighbor of mine or the elderly grocery clerk in the store or the overworked tired health care workers at the hospital. it's the least I can do. And it is Patriotic.

[banjobob]

We could eliminate MANY more deaths by all hiding in our basements with a mask on 24/7. We can also eliminate many deaths by reducing the speed limit on all roads to 5 mph. It’s called taking a calculated risk, it’s called living life.

You are right those with compromised immunity should take every precaution to protect themselves, the rest of us only minor flu like issues.

[Mardarlowe]

I see about 90% compliance everywhere I go. That's outstanding. Not sure why all the whining over 10 percent.

[dewilson58]

Drugs are the only way out of this.

[Burgy]

Up front, would like to say if any of you do want want to read another mask thread, please feel free not to read any further...............

Not enough Americans are heading the advice of the experts to wear a mask when in public. Dr. Fauci weighs in on this divisive virus mitigation........

Fauci Says Nationwide Face Mask Rule May Be Needed (https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201024/fauci-says-nationwide-face-mask-rule-may-be-needed)
I'm a retired physician. I was shocked when masks were not recommended early. The CDC and WHO were so worried about the N95 type the forgot the masses. What real epidemic or even movie or tv show doesn't have people wearing masks with there is a viral contagion? It's a major reason China was able to limit or contain, not withstanding their other laws or rules. We say recommended or requested when we need to say DO IT.

[oneclickplus]

Wearing a mask is such a simple, cheap way to reduce the spread of new infections. We may be carrying the virus without knowing it. As for "freedom," do any of us have the "right" to infect others?

Does anyone have the right to force someone else to wear a mask? (no).

Worried about infection? Stay home already.

[Raywatkins]

We are Brits and therefore have not been able to visit our house in TV all year.
A friend of mine was in the anti mask camp. I’m the other way.
He went out with another non mask wearer who later tested positive.
My friend caught Covid and after a few days in hospital told nurses how stupid he thought he had been not wearing a mask.
Unfortunately due to restrictions I am unable to attend his funeral. The guy he went out with is distraught.
I just hope no other non mask wearers go through the same.
A wife, three kids and a bunch of grandkids left behind.
I don’t know if he died because he didn’t wear a mask but he believed he got Covid as a result.
This virus doesn’t respect your politics or your views and freedoms. It attacks anybody it can latch on to.
Your choice.

[oneclickplus]

Damnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnit

I kept saying if the pseudo-patriotic anti-maskers did not get a grip on reality and at least try to use all we've got, they would end up screwing up the economy -- even more -- with their contrary thinking and acting.

We have made no progress. Things are getting worse, not only with the virus, but for regular people's economic lives. And as of this week, the market is taking notice and taking a hit.

DamnitdamnitdamnitdamnitDAMNIT!

You can't get "herd immunity" without infecting the herd. Take OFF your mask and go about your life. If you're worried about other people living free without a mask - then stay home.

[rustyp]

Does anyone have the right to force someone else to wear a mask? (no).

Worried about infection? Stay home already.

Why does someone else have the right to tell me to wear a seatbelt ? There is an example where I don't don't impact others but myself. And if you argue about it has an impact to health insurance if I get hurt by not wearing a seatbelt the same logic need apply to masks. If you get hospitalized for covid you are having the same type impact on health insurance as the seatbelt example.

[La lamy]

:pray: Health is probably the most important thing in life, I choose to do everything scientists say will help.

[billyb1950]

Wearing a mask is such a simple, cheap way to reduce the spread of new infections. We may be carrying the virus without knowing it. As for "freedom," do any of us have the "right" to infect others?

As a non-mask wearer myself except when/where required by an establishment to gain entry and purchase goods, let's agree on this: You wear a mask so you don't get infected while also not infecting me.

[Astron]

Does anyone have the right to force someone else to wear a mask? (no).

Worried about infection? Stay home already.

Public health law historically has had the power to enforce extreme measures for the containment of infectious disease. Rights mean zip to a virus. Your decision to refuse to act for the good of the nation Is a self centered negation of the rights of those around you to avoid increased risk of illness and death. Which right is more important? Obviously, only your rights matter to you, screw the rest of the nation.

[coffeebean]

We could eliminate MANY more deaths by all hiding in our basements with a mask on 24/7. We can also eliminate many deaths by reducing the speed limit on all roads to 5 mph. It’s called taking a calculated risk, it’s called living life.

Hope you don't have to live your life on a respirator. Good luck to you.

[coffeebean]

Drugs are the only way out of this.

Agree but we have to do SOMETHING in the meantime. Wearing a mask, social distancing and continue to live life is on my bucket list until we develop herd immunity safely with a vaccine.

Why do some people feel that life can not be lived when wearing a mask and social distancing? Of course it can. Granted, life is altered but we should be able to deal with it. I'm looking forward to the day I can set foot on a cruise ship and not have to worry about Covid.

[WVB#1]

It is a virus people. Do you really think that by everyone wearing a mask it will then just go away? Are you going to stop international travel? You're just putting off the inevitable. It goes away when everyone's immune system has the ability to fight it off.

[Bridget Staunton]

Please good neighbors wear your mask, it’s wise, the experts are telling us to wear them so please listen. It’s really not difficult and it protects all

[lkagele]

Drugs are the only way out of this.

Sounds good to me. I'm off to the pot store.........

[coffeebean]

Does anyone have the right to force someone else to wear a mask? (no).

Worried about infection? Stay home already.

I've said this before in another thread......staying home is NOT the answer. Folks want to "get out there and live their lives". Staying home will not help our economy to prosper. Our economy needs everyone's support. Please don't ask people to "stay home". That is not going to solve anything from an economical standpoint.

[coffeebean]

Does anyone have the right to force someone else to wear a mask? (no).

Worried about infection? Stay home already.

Does anyone have the right to force someone to wear clothing to cover up their genitals when out in public? I think there are laws to that effect. Mandating masks by the government will need a law so "yes", it can be done.

[lkagele]

We would not be facing hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by inaction and political divisiveness if we had a rational administration a person of science would likely have run. The economy would likely have been stronger if facts counted more than midnight tweets.

Whose facts? There are credible studies out there that find wearing a mask is no more effective that without one. The CDC just came out with a statement that it doesn't know if masks are really effective. A Danish study finds mask are not effective. Think about it. How many masks have you seen that provide a fully sealed barrier around your nose and mouth? Plus, at least with me, I'm touching my face more to continually adjust my mask.

[JanetMM]

The cow is out of the barn.

Well let’s keep the rest of the cows and all the calves safely in the barn so the break-out stops or slows down.

[greenflash245]

just do it

[Singerlady]

We could eliminate MANY more deaths by all hiding in our basements with a mask on 24/7. We can also eliminate many deaths by reducing the speed limit on all roads to 5 mph. It’s called taking a calculated risk, it’s called living life.
I prefer that others NOT take a calculated risk....one which could affect me. I also prefer to help out others by wearing a mask to not infect THEM and wish others would do the same for me. I respect the life of others.

[Singerlady]

Fauci is an idiot and an alarmist.

Ok, doctor....not!

[chuckpedrey]

When you divide the number of infections in the US by the population of our country you just might “logically” conclude that a nation wide mask mandate is an over kill to eliminating the C-19 plague. Such a mandate would have far reaching collateral damage that would change our society for ever. Take some personal responsibility people and quarantine if you’re at risk and let the rest of us get on with life. God bless America.

[Singerlady]

Totally agree. There was a generation that made great sacrifices during WWII. In the front line and from back home, there was a patriotic cohesiveness that was developed to rid the world of evil. But we can't do that do. We are not talking about rationing sugar or meat or going to the main front, but just wearing a mask. I wear a mask. I don't love it. But it's so easy to do to maybe protect that neighbor of mine or the elderly grocery clerk in the store or the overworked tired health care workers at the hospital. it's the least I can do. And it is Patriotic.

Totally agree. IF this had been said early on by the powers that be, I believe we would not be in this pickle!

[FromNY]

Wear to protect self. Seriously I do not care if you do or don't wear a mask or social distance or wash your hands or stay home. I care what I do to protect me. Years ago a family member got in my car refused to put a seat belt on. My car my rules on or out. He got out. Next time he put it on. A store says mask choice is on or shop somewhere else. I will not fault you for your choice so leave me alone about mine. 45 years in health care... I mask to protect me. Explantions of its validity not needed. My body my choice.

[Singerlady]

Denying science and scientist does not make bad things vanish. Trump didn't want a panic. No. He didn't want people's 401Ks to go down and hurt his chances of re-election. We can handle the truth. We are strong America. And we can tackle problems.

Aaaahhh....but he didn’t do smart things to ‘fix’ these issues did he?

[Singerlady]

I see about 90% compliance everywhere I go. That's outstanding. Not sure why all the whining over 10 percent.

Because the 10% can still infect the rest of us and keep this pandemic going!

[Joanne19335]

Ler's just say that I'm glad that Fauci is not our President.

He’s a doctor, not a politician! In THIS instance, we should listen to him—not the president.

[Singerlady]

Does anyone have the right to force someone else to wear a mask? (no).

Worried about infection? Stay home already.
Thank you for respecting the lives of others (me, etc.). I respect your life and wear a mask FOR YOU so YOU don’t get it. Do you not respect others? Sad....

[Singerlady]

You can't get "herd immunity" without infecting the herd. Take OFF your mask and go about your life. If you're worried about other people living free without a mask - then stay home.

Don’t want to get the virus. If I did and survived, I’d be worried about the lifelong effects of this virus which the experts still DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY WILL AFFECT us! That’s is the scary part!

[Joanne19335]

Fauci is 80 years old. Like Ginsburg, he has an out-sized ego and refuses to retire and go away. I agree with our President--Fauci is an idiot.

And the president’s ego? What rock have you been living under?

[Joanne19335]

Fauci is an idiot and an alarmist.

I think you have it backwards.

[Don5154]

Up front, would like to say if any of you do want want to read another mask thread, please feel free not to read any further...............

Not enough Americans are heading the advice of the experts to wear a mask when in public. Dr. Fauci weighs in on this divisive virus mitigation........

Fauci Says Nationwide Face Mask Rule May Be Needed (https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201024/fauci-says-nationwide-face-mask-rule-may-be-needed)

Perhaps we should start with ALL professional sports.....oh that’s right, can’t point the finger at the Golden Cow

[Singerlady]

Fauci is 80 years old. Like Ginsburg, he has an out-sized ego and refuses to retire and go away. I agree with our President--Fauci is an idiot.
Ok, doctor....not!

[biker1]

You care to provide some scientific evidence to support such a claim? The scientific conclusions on the effectiveness of masks are varied. Their effectiveness is probably situationally dependent. Making broad assertions without facts is useless. The best defense is simply staying away from people.

Because the 10% can still infect the rest of us and keep this pandemic going!

[sktb888]

Troll alert.



QUOTE=Scott O;1853732]Not my minority...Fauci is the most flippant unreliable source and I cannot stand the man..[/QUOTE]

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I wear a mask whenever I go into a public building. I have no problem with it. But I wonder if a national mandate would be considered unconstitutional. It was mentioned when Joe Biden said that he'd create a national mandate and he backed off. I suspect that he team told him that it he wouldn't have that power.

Again, I am not against wearing masks but I wonder if the Supreme Court would consider it a power reserved for the states.

Every business has the power to require you to wear a mask when you are on their premises. I think that the federal government should encourage all businesses to do that. But I don't know if they can legally demand it.

I also am concerned that if a federal law were to be put in place that we might have to wear a mask 24/7. I see people walking down the streets and driving their cars wearing a mask. There is not sense to that whatsoever. But it would be the kind of illogical thing that congress would do.

And how would this be enforced? Would local police be charged with enforcing a federal law? Would people be arrested and jailed for not wearing a mask while driving or walking out doors?

I generally like Dr Fauci but he sometimes talks about things where he has no expertise.

[Bay Kid]

Don't forget mask need frequent cleaning. All those filtered germs.

[Pettys1]

I see about 90% compliance everywhere I go. That's outstanding. Not sure why all the whining over 10 percent.

Exactly... You have Drs saying one thing an another saying something else. Fauci himself has been heard flip flapping on things. You take a chance on just waking up, but you do it everyday. Driving, walking, swimming. Everything you do in life is a chance you might get hurt or just never make it home. He'll Drs kill people everyday with over medicating people. But you still go. For the people who don't mask there maybe a reason an instead of just hibernating in a place til they die they choose to live life as normal. An those who wear mask your protected. I choose to live not stay in a bubble. I have older family members who are separated from there families no human contact except for the health care workers .. An we know how some of those workers are just there for a paycheck forget human kindness.

[GeriS]

I suspect you're in the minority, considering the way the Covid crisis has been handled, or should I say has not been handled.
Fauci is deep state. Wake up. It's about control, ruining the economy, people losing jobs, all to blame it on Trump. btw Brix is deep state also.

[GeriS]

Your just not making any sense, just repeating what Trump says, think for your self.
You're not thinking clearly listening to the lying main stream media which is an arm of the left. Most of the media is clearly connected to the left. You need to wake up.

[sooziesoul]

I would love to know the last time Fauci was on the front lines and actually treated any patients ??? The people actually treating the patients are the ones that we need to listen to , not a political physician!

[GeriS]

We could eliminate MANY more deaths by all hiding in our basements with a mask on 24/7. We can also eliminate many deaths by reducing the speed limit on all roads to 5 mph. It’s called taking a calculated risk, it’s called living life.
Many more deaths could have been avoided if Cuomo & other democratic run cities didn't force nursing home patients to take positive cases & if the so called science experts & the left would not have denied & hidden so many doctors who said HCQ & other meds worked. It's going to be very difficult for so many to understand what has been going on controlled by the left.

[NJRICHARD]

THE PROBLEM is who believes the media any longer? Notice RIGHT before the election the virus spikes, the market drops and twitter, Facebook, and ALL the left wing media; television, print and radio, etc are CENSORING Biden's corruption. HOWEVER the hospital entries is DOWN as well as the deaths. SO WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH??

[sooziesoul]

I’m 40 years in Healthcare and I KNOW what masks can and can’t do. Masks do NOT contain a virus. Particulates of a virus are so small that they pass right through!

[TSO/ISPF]

Seatbelts are the law. You wear one? Wearing a mask in the circumstances outlined by the experts could be a law as well if we had a federal government that worked. At least while this pandemic rages.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Seatbelts are the law. You wear one? Wearing a mask in the circumstances outlined by the experts could be a law as well if we had a federal government that worked. At least while this pandemic rages.

The federal government is working quite well. So is the Constitution of The United States.

Wearing a seatbelt is not a federal law. Auto manufacturers are mandated by the federal government to install them but wearing them is a state law. New Hampshire is the only state to not mandate the wearing of seatbelts.

Federal laws and be tricky. Not only are all powers not granted to the federal government in the constitution reserved for the states, but state law enforcement cannot enforce federal law.

So if there was a national mask mandate, who would enforce it? State, county and municipal police would not be allowed to. Would the FBI be arresting people for not wearing a mask?

I think that's why Joe Biden stopped saying it on the campaign trail. He had to have been told this by his advisors. The question that I have is, if a broken down old retired golf professional, cum musician knows this, why didn't a former senator and vice president with 47 years in our government not know it?

[ChickenDinner]

What about no shoes no service? Does that impact your rights? When did common sense and decency become political?

[Lottoguy]

If people don't want to wear a mask then they should tell their doctor ahead of time not to wear one when they get their operation. Over and out...

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What about no shoes no service? Does that impact your rights? When did common sense and decency become political?

All businesses have the right to determine with whom and under what conditions they will do business. Businesses are private property and can ban anyone from entering their property.

A business requiring its customers to wear a mask on their property is not interfering with anyone's rights.

[JoeinFL]

Fauci is 80 years old. Like Ginsburg, he has an out-sized ego and refuses to retire and go away. I agree with our President--Fauci is an idiot.

The only idiot is the person that won’t listen to people that are smarter than him.
In this case, he stated he’s smarter than the military generals and knows more than his scientists.
Really?? He can’t even put a decent sentence together without ridiculing someone.

[justjim]

Fauci is deep state. Wake up. It's about control, ruining the economy, people losing jobs, all to blame it on Trump. btw Brix is deep state also.

I only have one thing to say about this Thread - listen to the scientists not to those who have a political agenda. Peace.

[transplanted]

Definition of patriotism has done a funny turn.

Used to be about "doing" for your country. Now simply put a flag somewhere, talk loud, and proclaim yourself a patriot.

"pseudo-patriotic" is a great description

"peaceful" protesting (mostly rioting) and looting is now touted as patriotic, accepted and encouraged.

[jswirs]

We could eliminate MANY more deaths by all hiding in our basements with a mask on 24/7. We can also eliminate many deaths by reducing the speed limit on all roads to 5 mph. It’s called taking a calculated risk, it’s called living life.
Yes, you have said it exactly right!!

[kenoc7]

Fauci is an idiot and an alarmist.
That is the stupidest satatement I have ever seen in this forum. Faucei is a brilliant scientist who has served hos country for nearly 40 years.

[kenoc7]

Does anyone have the right to force someone else to wear a mask? (no).

Worried about infection? Stay home already.
Yes, in the name of public health and the common good they do have the right. Freedom isn't doing whatever you want to do, freedom is not harming others.

[Joe C.]

When the government "requires us to wear a mask, then they should supply them.

[doyle31]

Wrong! He, Dr Brix and Dr Redfield are the only ’stable geniuses’ in this administration.

[bp243]

We could eliminate MANY more deaths by all hiding in our basements with a mask on 24/7. We can also eliminate many deaths by reducing the speed limit on all roads to 5 mph. It’s called taking a calculated risk, it’s called living life.

Do you wear a seatbelt? If so, why?