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rjn5656
11-04-2020, 07:54 AM
Has anyone had one installed by Munn's?

Malsua
11-04-2020, 08:11 AM
Has anyone had one installed by Munn's?

I can't speak specifically to what Munn's is offering, but I can say that Munn's is pretty good to deal with.

I can also say that they are just going to be installing one of the three major brands of wifi thermostats. Nest, Ecobee or the Honeywell/Resideo. Of the three, I have installed a handful of Honeywell and two nests. If you like to just set a temp and have it hold temp, get the Honeywell or Ecobee. If you want the thermostat programming to be smart and adaptive to human traffic in the space, get the nest. Personally, I just like to hold temps. Shrug.

All can be controlled remotely and this is a great benefit for me since we have a home up north and in TV. I can see if either house is having an issue from anywhere in the world. Any of them will alert you if the temp goes out of a set range(too hot/cold) for a period of time. They also will tell you if your power or internet is out when it loses connection.

I highly recommend going to a WiFi, just be aware of what you're getting before you get it.

Good luck.

Polar Bear
11-04-2020, 09:30 AM
Malsua, can you give a ballpark cost?

Dana1963
11-04-2020, 09:39 AM
Has anyone had one installed by Munn's?
Now we use a simple humidistat and have a neighbor check home monthly and after power failures. Tried a wifi device but it failed.

Malsua
11-04-2020, 11:33 AM
Malsua, can you give a ballpark cost?

I know you can buy Honeywell WiFi thermostats for under $100 on Amazon. If you can follow basic instructions, you can do it yourself. They used to be $179, so they've come down a lot.

The Nest thermostats are easier to install, that said, depending on your HVAC system, you may need the more expensive one. I had both the Nest E and a Honeywell, and the Nest E($130 now) didn't have one of the wire ports for my Trane heat pump in TV, So I installed the Honeywell. The more expensive Nest Learning($150 now) has the right connections for pretty much any system. At the time, both of those thermostats were $50 more expensive than they are now. I ended up using the Nest in NJ.

There are some Carrier systems that don't have a common wire to the thermostat so in those cases, you'd need to run an additional wire from the air handler to thermostat. Check your system before you buy.

I've never installed an Ecobee, no idea how to get that done.

As to how much they'd charge to install it, you'll have to ask them. A pro can probably do it in 30 minutes if all the wires are there and most of the time will just be connecting it to WIFI and setting a program. It would probably be several hours to run new wires in the walls if that has to happen. Shrug, the answer is it depends.

EdFNJ
11-04-2020, 07:39 PM
I've never installed an Ecobee, no idea how to get that done.

I have an Ecobee and it took me less that 15 minutes from removing my old (Honeywell Wifi) and replacing it with the Ecobee & connecting to my WiFi I much preferred the Ecobee for it's ACTUAL HOLD function plus the one I got has ALEXA built in with an quite decent sounding speaker. I started with a Nest and returned it for the Ecobee.

RobertWR
11-05-2020, 12:32 AM
When I purchased my home I had Munn's come out and install my Honeywell thermostat. At the same time I wanted them to service the HVAC system. Munn's installed our system when the house was built.

I have installed several of the Honeywell units but needed the C wire which the service tech used an existing wire that was not being used already run between the heater and thermostat.

Bilyclub
11-05-2020, 12:49 AM
If you have a Carrier heat pump with the Edge thermostat things get more complicated.

Dan T
11-05-2020, 07:06 AM
Down here I have a digital thermostat and it’s not connected to Wi-Fi with a humidistat. I would be interested to know if one of the Wi-Fi thermostats will work with the humidistat that way I can monitor from Michigan

ogme480
11-05-2020, 07:12 AM
I'm on my 2nd Honeywell and both were professionally installed. Munn's did mine here in the Villages. A must to have, especially for snowbirds. Can monitor temperature & humidity from afar...and make temp adjustments and/or switch from heat to A/C without being home. Can also see forecasts and outside temperature if hooked up properly. It will also tell you if your wifi drops out for some reason, but will hold the assigned schedule w/o wifi until it returns. Download their app and can make changes on it or online with your account setup when you install it. Don't wait any longer...pull the trigger.

dewilson58
11-05-2020, 07:17 AM
I have an Ecobee and it took me less that 15 minutes from removing my old (Honeywell Wifi) and replacing it with the Ecobee & connecting to my WiFi I much preferred the Ecobee for it's ACTUAL HOLD function plus the one I got has ALEXA built in with an quite decent sounding speaker. I started with a Nest and returned it for the Ecobee.


We have Ecobee as well. Simple & Easy.

Malsua
11-05-2020, 07:25 AM
Down here I have a digital thermostat and it’s not connected to Wi-Fi with a humidistat. I would be interested to know if one of the Wi-Fi thermostats will work with the humidistat that way I can monitor from Michigan

The higher end options of all of them have external humidistat controls. Absolutely something you should do for both of your homes.

Let me also point out that once you have a WiFi thermostat, you're going to want WiFi Irrigation, then a WiFi Flume to monitor water usage, then a WiFi garage door opener, WiFi doorbell, door locks, security cams. It worked that way for me :). Heck the new fridge has it, I've just not bothered though.

RobertWR
11-05-2020, 07:36 AM
The higher end options of all of them have external humidistat controls. Absolutely something you should do for both of your homes.

Let me also point out that once you have a WiFi thermostat, you're going to want WiFi Irrigation, then a WiFi Flume to monitor water usage, then a WiFi garage door opener, WiFi doorbell, door locks, security cams. It worked that way for me :). Heck the new fridge has it, I've just not bothered though.

Technology is great. It doesn't take much to set it up and manage it. I installed WiFi dead bolts on our entry doors. They lock and unlock when the security is armed and disarmed. All these products keep coming.

Timdowling
11-05-2020, 09:56 AM
Munn’s installed a Nest for me in September. I did it because I am a snow bird and wanted to keep track when I am away. It has been great. It cost $374 for the Nest, instal and 5 year warranty

B-flat
11-05-2020, 10:23 AM
Munn’s installed a Nest for me in September. I did it because I am a snow bird and wanted to keep track when I am away. It has been great. It cost $374 for the Nest, instal and 5 year warranty

Plus one!

I know of 2 friends of ours who had Munn’s also install the thermostat. Can’t beat being able to control it remotely. We also have Nest cameras installed in our locations.

cherylncliff
11-05-2020, 10:39 AM
I have Ecobee 3 Lite about $130 on Amazon. Easy to install, works well and has humidistat functionality. I also have one in our condo in MI.

Diver Man
11-05-2020, 11:26 AM
If you have a Carrier heat pump with the Edge thermostat things get more complicated.

I have installed many wifi thermostats, and I will agree 100 percent with the new carrier heat pump systems installed in the newer homes, you need to remove the junction block connection between the old thermostat and the ac unit , or you will burn out the transformer, lesson learned.This was the most complicated install. I definitely would have Munns install.

mbalsama
11-05-2020, 11:38 AM
Has anyone had one installed by Munn's?

Munn’s installed a Nest for me. I did it because I wanted something easy to program and to keep track if I am away from home. It has been great. It cost $374 for the Nest, installed with a 5 year warranty. I'm very happy with it. The Munn's installer was very professional and did a good job.

Bilancieri
11-05-2020, 05:44 PM
Munns installed WiFi Honeywell in my TV home. Works great and has a dehumidify away mode that lets you set the max humidity in your home when your up north over the summer. Humidity in my house never went above 60% over the summer.

tophcfa
11-05-2020, 07:50 PM
We prefer our old fashioned thermostat, no wifi, wireless, or anything else that can go bad or breach our data. Our motto is KISS, Keep it simple, stupid.

Bilyclub
11-05-2020, 10:05 PM
I have installed many wifi thermostats, and I will agree 100 percent with the new carrier heat pump systems installed in the newer homes, you need to remove the junction block connection between the old thermostat and the ac unit , or you will burn out the transformer, lesson learned.This was the most complicated install. I definitely would have Munns install.


Could you tell me how many wires you need going to the thermostat ?

EdFNJ
11-05-2020, 11:50 PM
Could you tell me how many wires you need going to the thermostat ? IIRC ours had 4 or 5. We have a Carrier Heat Pump here (~9 years old) and whatever wires are there are fine. You can even connect these to a 3 wire 30 year old system (we did that way back when). It does have to have a "C" wire which caries the 24V voltage to keep it on but every system here surely does that and even if it didn't you can install a power block. Just take a photo of existing wires as they are hooked up before removing old T-Stat. If you can change a wall switch you can install one of these. Just follow the setup. They make it ALMOST fool proof. If you have minimal handy-man capabilities you can save yourself the $200++ they charge to install them. Just turn off the power so you don't short it out. 24VAC can't hurt you but it can the T-stat.

rhood
11-06-2020, 06:02 AM
We have a Career Infinity touch (wifi) installed by Munn's when our new system was installed. It loses wifi from time to time. Munn;s service guy said that it can't be replaced by a Nest or Ecobee.

Bilyclub
11-06-2020, 07:25 AM
IIRC ours had 4 or 5. We have a Carrier Heat Pump here (~9 years old) and whatever wires are there are fine. You can even connect these to a 3 wire 30 year old system (we did that way back when). It does have to have a "C" wire which caries the 24V voltage to keep it on but every system here surely does that and even if it didn't you can install a power block. Just take a photo of existing wires as they are hooked up before removing old T-Stat. If you can change a wall switch you can install one of these. Just follow the setup. They make it ALMOST fool proof. If you have minimal handy-man capabilities you can save yourself the $200++ they charge to install them. Just turn off the power so you don't short it out. 24VAC can't hurt you but it can the T-stat.


Not that easy if you have a Carrier Edge thermostat. There is a control box by the blower in the garage that complicates everything. I have seen internet threads implying you need a 7 wire feed to the thermostat.

RalphM
11-07-2020, 07:07 AM
Bought Ecobee 3 on Amazon for $approx $159. Interacts with Alexa. Michael of Good Guys HVAC installed (352) 805-0035. He's a Villager. His cost $95

paulat585
11-07-2020, 12:32 PM
Now we use a simple humidistat and have a neighbor check home monthly and after power failures. Tried a wifi device but it failed.
Who installed this for you?

IndianaJones
11-07-2020, 02:39 PM
Has anyone had one installed by Munn's?

We just had a new A/C unit installed by Munn's - very professional, fast and efficient - the new unit is 3.5 ton, SEER-16, with an Ecobee thermostat - it's awesome, easy to set/use/change settings on my phone, easy to use in the house (you can just talk to it and it will set temps, etc.). Been in a month and ZERO issues. Really easy to use and works well, and again, kudos to Munn's - they were great!

EdFNJ
11-07-2020, 10:28 PM
Not that easy if you have a Carrier Edge thermostat. There is a control box by the blower in the garage that complicates everything. I have seen internet threads implying you need a 7 wire feed to the thermostat.
It seems that's because they basically install the "thermostat guts" at the blower unit and just "remote" the display box/temp sensor with 2-wires. The rest of the wires should be there in the wall unattached.

You need to bypass the control module and get rid of it. Then simply connect the Nest's Rh,Y1,W1,C,G connectors to the RYWCG terminals on the furnace.

Installing Nest thermostat - replacing Carrier Edge with Carrier Comfort 95 (compatible?) : Nest (https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/8w2qtl/installing_nest_thermostat_replacing_carrier_edge/)

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Great! to make sure I understand. Do I remove the current wiring from the furnace, and take the wires that are currently plugged into the control module and plug them into the furnace?
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AStuf
Nest Thermostat Generation 33 points ·
2 years ago

Correct. Remove the current wires between the control module and furnace. Then move the cable currently connecting the thermostat (old red/black) and use 5 of the wires to connect to the furnace. Keep the other cable with two wires (red/white) on Y and C connected as that feeds the outside a/c compressor.
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n1876x
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2 years ago

I wanted to thank you very very much! It worked!!! Nest told me it wouldn't with V it wouldn't but you saved the day. Thank you!!!

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Bilyclub
11-10-2020, 06:13 PM
[QUOTE=EdFNJ;1857766]It seems that's because they basically install the "thermostat guts" at the blower unit and just "remote" the display box/temp sensor with 2-wires. The rest of the wires should be there in the wall unattached.

You need to bypass the control module and get rid of it. Then simply connect the Nest's Rh,Y1,W1,C,G connectors to the RYWCG terminals on the furnace.

Installing Nest thermostat - replacing Carrier Edge with Carrier Comfort 95 (compatible?) : Nest (https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/8w2qtl/installing_nest_thermostat_replacing_carrier_edge/)



Great! to make sure I understand. Do I remove the current wiring from the furnace, and take the wires that are currently plugged into the control module and plug them into the furnace?
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AStuf
Nest Thermostat Generation 33 points ·
2 years ago

Correct. Remove the current wires between the control module and furnace. Then move the cable currently connecting the thermostat (old red/black) and use 5 of the wires to connect to the furnace. Keep the other cable with two wires (red/white) on Y and C connected as that feeds the outside a/c compressor.
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n1876x
1 point ·
2 years ago



It looks like there are more than 7 wires in my edge, besides the jumper wire.

Malsua
11-11-2020, 07:23 AM
OAT and SRTN are for the Outdoor air temperature sensor. The Ecobee and Nest WiFI thermostats use weather stations so it's unnecessary. Not sure how the Honeywell uses that, probably the same way.



[QUOTE=EdFNJ;1857766]It seems that's because they basically install the "thermostat guts" at the blower unit and just "remote" the display box/temp sensor with 2-wires. The rest of the wires should be there in the wall unattached.

You need to bypass the control module and get rid of it. Then simply connect the Nest's Rh,Y1,W1,C,G connectors to the RYWCG terminals on the furnace.

Installing Nest thermostat - replacing Carrier Edge with Carrier Comfort 95 (compatible?) : Nest (https://www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/8w2qtl/installing_nest_thermostat_replacing_carrier_edge/)



Great! to make sure I understand. Do I remove the current wiring from the furnace, and take the wires that are currently plugged into the control module and plug them into the furnace?
level 2
AStuf
Nest Thermostat Generation 33 points ·
2 years ago

Correct. Remove the current wires between the control module and furnace. Then move the cable currently connecting the thermostat (old red/black) and use 5 of the wires to connect to the furnace. Keep the other cable with two wires (red/white) on Y and C connected as that feeds the outside a/c compressor.
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n1876x
1 point ·
2 years ago



It looks like there are more than 7 wires in my edge, besides the jumper wire.