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Happinow
11-07-2020, 03:17 PM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

retiredguy123
11-07-2020, 03:28 PM
I don't think anyone would disagree. But, why not name the restaurant? Unless you do, I don't see the purpose of the thread.

Marathon Man
11-07-2020, 03:31 PM
So, women with long nails have gross stuff under them?

Carla B
11-07-2020, 03:37 PM
Wow, that is just gross. In fact, whenever I see these long, highly decorated nails all I can think is no real work ever gets done by that person. Work, as in housekeeping, yard work, etc. In fact, how do they even hit the keys on their computer/cell phone without breaking one of their precious nails?

Happinow
11-07-2020, 03:42 PM
I don't think anyone would disagree. But, why not name the restaurant? Unless you do, I don't see the purpose of the thread.

People bitchin because negative talk about restaurants can have an impact on the restaurant. Figured we’ve all see this at one restaurant or another. This is the second restaurant I’ve seen this type of thing at.

Aloha1
11-07-2020, 04:18 PM
So, women with long nails have gross stuff under them?

Yep.In many jurisdictions, the Health Department bans food workers from wearing long nails as they present a food contamination hazard and cannot be contained inside gloves as they may break through the glove. This applies to servers also.

Aloha1
11-07-2020, 04:20 PM
I would have left the restaurant. IMHO, if somebody wants to mutilate their body, that's their choice. My choice is I don't have to look at it.

Dana1963
11-07-2020, 04:47 PM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!
Just face the fact YOU had options SPEAK UP, refuse meal and ask for Manager.
Name the Restaurant!

retiredguy123
11-07-2020, 04:50 PM
Just face the fact YOU had options SPEAK UP, refuse meal and ask for Manager.
Name the Restaurant!
I agree. This says more about the restaurant management than about the server. Who would hire this person to represent the business?

Stu from NYC
11-07-2020, 08:01 PM
I agree. This says more about the restaurant management than about the server. Who would hire this person to represent the business?

Very true

graciegirl
11-07-2020, 08:12 PM
I would have left the restaurant. IMHO, if somebody wants to mutilate their body, that's their choice. My choice is I don't have to look at it.

And you have said it all. Vote with your feet.

And I grow tired of people who are always critical of servers. They don't make much money. Many are tireless and clean and respectful and hard working. Many are not. The pay is awful.

I would last five minutes until the beans would be in a lap.

Happinow
11-07-2020, 08:58 PM
Just face the fact YOU had options SPEAK UP, refuse meal and ask for Manager.
Name the Restaurant!

I did have options and I wrote corporate...😊

Bikeracer2009
11-07-2020, 10:54 PM
I don't see a problem feeling grossed out by some strangers long nails going into the food area of your plate. It doesn't matter that the server was possibly gay and a black BLM supporter. It's not racist to listen to your own mind about how a situation makes you feel. I stand against racism and discrimination of someone's lifestyle choice so if I see it then I call it out. In this case it's just as you have stated, gross.

Fortunately we live in a more tolerant time and don't want to come across as a racist or homophopic. Unfortunately this cuts both ways. You're having to tolerate something else to prevent a misunderstanding and at the expense of enjoying your dinner. Congrats on being morally strong and considerate of someone's feelings. I think part of having a clear conscience is being able to say something bothers you when you know it's ok to feel that way and you know you can do say something tactfully to fix the problem.

In this situation I would have quietly spoken to the manager and left. The reason I would have left is that I would wonder if the server spit in my food after I said something to the manager lol. I'm sure he wouldn't do that but that's what I would be thinking. The meal is ruined either way so why put myself through it.

I did eat at a fast food restaurant and the young man at the register had long painted finger nails. I wasn't expecting this when I handed him my money. He seemed very shy and fragile so I said hey man nice finger nails. He smiled and said thanks. If he was my son I would want the world to be nice to him too.

camaguey48
11-08-2020, 04:52 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!
Name the restaurant. It would be a public service. Walk out. It's your choice.

Raywatkins
11-08-2020, 06:05 AM
I liked reading this thread.
I agree with most of the comments although the BLM mask would not have upset me.
But I have to agree with the person who said they would not last long before the beans were in the customers lap.
Just as I have seen bad service I have also seen bad manners from diners. I fear that I would be tipping the beans on someone’s head.
But long nails - no no no.

merrymini
11-08-2020, 06:06 AM
Tricky situation. My friend is a nurse and there is no question that long nails may harbor bacteria, that is why you do not see nurses with long nails. It is difficult enough to clean bacteria from under your nails even if they are short and now with this virus thing, do you think that person is using a brush? Don’t think so. You will live but a call to the restaurant manager is warranted.

Clark124
11-08-2020, 06:09 AM
I quit a restaurant in Ohio because of that it maybe their right to look like that , but I don't have to eat there

Jeanette.U
11-08-2020, 06:14 AM
Eat at home

jarodrig
11-08-2020, 06:37 AM
Without naming the restaurant, Mr or Mrs Happinow have accomplished NOTHING by posting this rant .

However , maybe they are <happier now> ! ;)

It’s unbelievably incredible how someone could be so disgusted and grossed out , yet they chose to stay and eat their meal anyway !!! :faint:

Girlcopper
11-08-2020, 06:55 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!
Ok. His hair was pulled back. Check. Long fingernails like many females have. Check. Piercings, so? Check. BLM mask. NEVER. Im out the door in a heartbeat with no explanation. I wont have someones ideals shoved down my throat

MandoMan
11-08-2020, 07:02 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

I prefer to see servers wearing gloves and a mask. And I want everyone in the kitchen to be wearing a mask and gloves, too.

ts12755
11-08-2020, 07:06 AM
Racist or political masks or clothing should not be allowed on property. You should have complained to the manager and left.

Art cov
11-08-2020, 07:11 AM
Yes totally gross! Makes me uncomfortable anywhere, but the server! I would have talked to the manager and if need be, I would go to the general manager. Sometimes the owner is around even of the chain restaurants ( franchises). Some corporations will ignore unless the complaint has gone up the chain of command. I do believe our voices should be heard in a very nice and to the point way. In some cases the manager is wanting this complaint, so they can take action. They will go the last mile with a customer being the problem but an employee is at times another story. If this gross appearance is at our tables, what’s going on behind the scenes? Oh by the way, what did corporate say?

jedalton
11-08-2020, 07:12 AM
what restaurant?

giorgio1948
11-08-2020, 07:25 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!
Hiring issues..we have noticed that at other restaurants as well...sad

JanetMM
11-08-2020, 07:44 AM
Companies, especially food service, should provide masks like Publix masks on their employees. Or have an across the board / all sex rules like white or grey masks only and nails with only clear polish and closely trimmed.
Then employees know what is acceptable and customers are not upset by these things. Employers are allowed to have standards so they need to set uniform standards. They drop the ball when they don’t especially in the food service industry.
Let the haters now hate.
P.S. I lean towards being liberal.

greenflash245
11-08-2020, 07:49 AM
so, other than the nails, hat. specifically do you have against male servers?

greenflash245
11-08-2020, 07:51 AM
right on!

Kgcetm
11-08-2020, 07:52 AM
Funny but I’ve never heard a man refer to a female’s long nails as being a hygienic issue. If they were dirty advise the manager and ask for another server. If they weren’t then you might have a phobia. If thattthe case, the problem is on you and not the server. .

Mrmean58
11-08-2020, 07:54 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

NJRICHARD
11-08-2020, 07:55 AM
Without naming the restaurant your complaint is not helping the rest of us! This PC attitude, 'I don't want to hurt anyone's FEELINGS' and being nice to the world stuff is how we get no results. I am not saying be nasty, but you have a valid issue and in order for it to have any results it's worthless.

jbrown132
11-08-2020, 07:56 AM
I liked reading this thread.
I agree with most of the comments although the BLM mask would not have upset me.
But I have to agree with the person who said they would not last long before the beans were in the customers lap.
Just as I have seen bad service I have also seen bad manners from diners. I fear that I would be tipping the beans on someone’s head.
But long nails - no no no.
Would a MEGA hate have bothered you? As the OP said, we go out to dinner to enjoy ourselves and relax and to escape the everyday nonstop decisiveness that has split our country in half. Masks and hats of this nature should be left out of the work place. Regarding the nails where is the barf bag.

TooColdNJ
11-08-2020, 07:57 AM
People asking for the name of the restaurant— it means nothing. You may not even have the same server. Why ruin the rep of a place because of one experience? You ate your dinner, right? Couldn’t have felt THAT sick. IMO, you should have spoken up and asked for another server the minute his appearance affected you.Or you could have spoken to the manager the minute the food was served, refuse the meal, and leave.

oldtimes
11-08-2020, 08:17 AM
So, women with long nails have gross stuff under them?

Yes. I think they are hideous.

justjim
11-08-2020, 08:28 AM
One would think that the County Health Dept that oversees and monitors restaurants would have policy against what OP describes. OP, I would contact the County Health Dept. As a follow up let us know what they say.

joseppe
11-08-2020, 08:32 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

Poor restaurant management to hire servers who do not look pleasing and have a demeanor suitable to the patrons.

bizet711
11-08-2020, 08:35 AM
This is the non-conformance attitude of the time we live in. When I got jobs some of them had rules regarding dress, behavior, language,etc. if you wanted the job you complied with the rules. Now we can’t expect anything from anybody. And to make matters worst they have pushed their non-conformist anomalies to the extreme.

BlackhawksFan
11-08-2020, 08:37 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

So your objection could have been over come at the time in 3 ways.

1. Leave
2. Ask the manage for a different server
3. Ask the manager to have tne server wear gloves like the kitchen staff does.

Joe C.
11-08-2020, 08:45 AM
There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

Just because someone disagrees with the BLM mask doesn't make them a racist. Look up the word in the dictionary. It's a misused word by many. BLM is run by 3 Marxists, and is only a front.
Piercings ??? A couple of them may be attractive, but too many of them in different places can be disgusting. Just like tattoos...... So give that poster a break.

Bill14564
11-08-2020, 09:02 AM
i agree with not naming the restaurant. With today's cancel culture, even what some might see as a small problem will be taken by others as a reason to boycott with the intent of driving away all business. Until society shows it can again keep things in perspective I would be very reluctant to call out people or places by name.

If I understand the forum statistics correctly, this thread has been viewed nearly 4,300 times. This seems like it has been pretty effective at getting the word out even if the particular restaurant was not named. An owner or manager among those 4,300 might recognize the description and make changes at their establishment. This thread might result in some changes without naming and shaming the restaurant.

I question whether there was any real problem anyway. If the OP was servered by Shay, the new 22 year old waitress with the long blond hair held back with sparkly clips, earrings, and nicely painted fingernails would there have been any concern? While I don't agree that there was a problem, I do appreciate the way the OP handled it: expressing their opinion to corporate but keeping the name of the restaurant out of these posts.

banjobob
11-08-2020, 09:04 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

A letter to corporate is probably a waste, A conversation with the manager about his grooming and offensive mask would be my top gripe.

Rzepecki
11-08-2020, 09:05 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!
You didn’t say whether he was clean or dirty. Was his hair clean? Were his clothes clean? Were his hands clean? Did he smell badly? Other than that, I don’t think you have a say in his appearance. Maybe he didn’t like your earrings or your clothes, but he served you well anyway.

haysus7
11-08-2020, 09:16 AM
Not true about BLM. Long nails on server is gross

karostay
11-08-2020, 09:27 AM
stay home simple solution

canyonblue
11-08-2020, 09:37 AM
As far as the BLM mask, if it matters to anyone there is a problem. Where do you draw the line? What if the mask had...

MAGA
TRUMP 2020
BIDEN 2020
PRO CHOICE
PRO LIFE
PROUD BOYS
ANTIFA
AMERICAN FLAG
CONFEDERATE FLAG

The easiest way to avoid any issues is mandating that your employees ONLY wear SOLID COLOR masks. The First Amendment is between you and the government, not you and your employer.

Mr.Alaska
11-08-2020, 09:38 AM
Absolute sign of poor management!
Before any server goes on the floor, management should go over specials of the day, soups of the day, make sure hair is under control and a inspection of clothing and personal effects, including long and dirty fingernails.
I'm quite sure there health code violations in this case. Kudos to you for bringing it to the owners attention

Happinow
11-08-2020, 09:39 AM
Yes totally gross! Makes me uncomfortable anywhere, but the server! I would have talked to the manager and if need be, I would go to the general manager. Sometimes the owner is around even of the chain restaurants ( franchises). Some corporations will ignore unless the complaint has gone up the chain of command. I do believe our voices should be heard in a very nice and to the point way. In some cases the manager is wanting this complaint, so they can take action. They will go the last mile with a customer being the problem but an employee is at times another story. If this gross appearance is at our tables, what’s going on behind the scenes? Oh by the way, what did corporate say?

Haven’t heard back yet.....

janetD
11-08-2020, 09:51 AM
It is coming across to me that hygiene issues weren't this poster's main concern as he/she would have only mentioned that. Why need to mention hair, piercings and attire if none of those affected your supposed concern over the health quality of what you were served??The server doesn't conform to what they believe is an acceptable way to present oneself and other commenters made assumptions about the person's sexual orientation cleanliness and the managers ability to hire staff. Just admit it. You are uncomfortable with people who do not follow what you consider to be the way one should look. That's fine you are entitled to your opinion. My opinion that I am entitled to is that I would hope people would be less judgemental of looks and more concerned with the quality of the person. It concerns me to feel I am living around so many close minded judgemental people. Thought by the age most of us have achieved that we would have learned that a person's character is most important. I am in no way condoning any practices that would affect the health and safety of anyone eating at any establishment but wonder why you felt the need to post this. It's a personal decision if you choose not to support this restaurant. Why impose your judgement on others. Am I living completely in the dark unaware that most people are concerned about the issues mentioned in the post. And the call from so many to name the restaurant-- why??

Peggy Weaver
11-08-2020, 09:54 AM
I would have left the restaurant. IMHO, if somebody wants to mutilate their body, that's their choice. My choice is I don't have to look at it.
Agreed.

Neils
11-08-2020, 09:55 AM
There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

Vote with your feet. You should not have others views forced on you to ruin your dining. Take your $ elsewhere.
The place will soon shut down.

MBrose
11-08-2020, 09:56 AM
How dare anyone say that someone with long nails is lazy. I have an impeccable home which I scrub on from top to bottom myself. I work on a computer 12 hours a day for 40 years. I get compliments from both women and men on my nails and home. I clean my own car , I garden and I am also OCD and a germophobe and people tell me they would eat off my floors. Don’t tell me that my nails are an issue, your bigotry sounds like the issue.

airstreamingypsy
11-08-2020, 10:00 AM
Ok. His hair was pulled back. Check. Long fingernails like many females have. Check. Piercings, so? Check. BLM mask. NEVER. Im out the door in a heartbeat with no explanation. I wont have someones ideals shoved down my throat

So, you think he would have force fed you his mask? LOL

Indydealmaker
11-08-2020, 10:10 AM
There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

BLM and piercings have nothing to do with racism. Stop singing that song.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
11-08-2020, 10:15 AM
This thread sounds like a lot of fake news , right down to adding the BLM mask which I think put this story over the top . I would see nothing wrong with his appearance in some trendy restaurant at home in Boston but even if he had the right to look like what was described I doubt whether server or management would chose to allow the BLM mask in the villages area although I wouldn’t mind it at all , but until the name of restaurant is put out there , I’ll just still believe that this is another stealth way of putting out another racist thread

asiebel
11-08-2020, 10:30 AM
I am glad the waiter is working, but it is managements place to require certain standards from their workers! I hope you talked to the manager!

Gulfcoast
11-08-2020, 10:33 AM
Back when I waited tables, servers were required to keep their nails relatively short, clean, any nail polish had to be clear or very light neutral pink. Long hair had to be put up in a bun with a hairnet around the bun part, uniforms had to be clean and wrinkle free, you could have no odor either from fragrances or BO. Make up had to be light. If you showed up to work in violation of any of those rules you would be sent home as a no call/no show if the situation could not be corrected right then and there (nail polish remover, hair net, etc). If you got sent home enough within a certain time span, you would be fired.

GOLFER54
11-08-2020, 10:40 AM
Why any restaurant would hire somebody like that to work for them and represent their business is beyond comprehension. I’ve been to Restaurants with severs wearing very short pants covered in tattoos from their ankles to their necks, stud earrings on tongue, noses and ears, obviously owners are desperate for help so they employ these people. Inappropriate dress seems to be overlooked today.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
11-08-2020, 11:02 AM
Back when I waited tables, servers were required to keep their nails relatively short, clean, any nail polish had to be clear or very light neutral pink. Long hair had to be put up in a bun with a hairnet around the bun part, uniforms had to be clean and wrinkle free, you could have no odor either from fragrances or BO. Make up had to be light. If you showed up to work in violation of any of those rules you would be sent home as a no call/no show if the situation could not be corrected right then and there (nail polish remover, hair net, etc). If you got sent home enough within a certain time span, you would be fired.to start so we could all go to work for 25 cents per hour

charlieo1126@gmail.com
11-08-2020, 11:05 AM
Yes like all those middle age white guys showing up in restaurants in shots they wore all day , gentleman put on some big boy pants at night no one wants to see your upper thighs while eating

sooziesoul
11-08-2020, 11:05 AM
Yes they do! I believe that part of grooming for service jobs should have standards ! I worked in dentistry and short nails were one of the standards! Same with nursing and I think that dealing with food should have high standards of cleanliness as well!

sooziesoul
11-08-2020, 11:06 AM
If higher standards were kept by restaurants, maybe there would not be so many complaints!

Gulfcoast
11-08-2020, 11:21 AM
to start so we could all go to work for 25 cents per hour

A good server can make a lot of money. I waited tables for college money and I could really make bank on a weekend night. You have to know your menu, you have to give great customer service, you have to be pleasant, you have to appear to be clean or you will simply not make as much money as a server who bothers to do those things.

I can not tell you how many job offers I got as a server, too - good paying office jobs. Something else to think about.

LWoodLMT
11-08-2020, 11:21 AM
I did have options and I wrote corporate...😊
But you sat and ate your meal. Not me. There are plenty of other restaurants to pick from.

jimhurtt@twc.com
11-08-2020, 11:44 AM
You can't discriminate. Particularly if he might have been LBGTQrstuvwxyz.

deestatham@aol.com
11-08-2020, 11:46 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

This is very well said without “offending” anyone. That’s another word I’m sick of. This was gross. What the hell is happening in this world? I’m afraid I would’ve left without eating. Hope you didn’t leave a tip!!

Stu from NYC
11-08-2020, 01:04 PM
This is very well said without “offending” anyone. That’s another word I’m sick of. This was gross. What the hell is happening in this world? I’m afraid I would’ve left without eating. Hope you didn’t leave a tip!!

Could have left him a note that said something along the line here is a tip. Pay attention to your grooming.:bigbow:

petiteone
11-08-2020, 01:14 PM
Would you have felt the same if some sexy girl with long blond hair, a White Girl Power hat, tight revealing shorts and long sparklie nails served you? Or would yo have been distracted by her firm bouncy butt?

bpascani
11-08-2020, 01:17 PM
I agree with you totally. I think I would have asked for another table, or just left without ordering (hopefully that waiter was the one that came to the table to take your order.??)

Littlebird
11-08-2020, 01:23 PM
:clap2:Back when I waited tables, servers were required to keep their nails relatively short, clean, any nail polish had to be clear or very light neutral pink. Long hair had to be put up in a bun with a hairnet around the bun part, uniforms had to be clean and wrinkle free, you could have no odor either from fragrances or BO. Make up had to be light. If you showed up to work in violation of any of those rules you would be sent home as a no call/no show if the situation could not be corrected right then and there (nail polish remover, hair net, etc). If you got sent home enough within a certain time span, you would be fired.

I agree!! It's not an issue of gender, race, political or religious views, it's an issue of laws in food service and the respect of the restaurant owner/corp. that provides jobs to servers like us. If it's ok to come to work and serve food without following dept of health guidelines then I guess it's ok for your dentist, doctor or surgeon to slack off too.

coffeebean
11-08-2020, 01:41 PM
I prefer to see servers wearing gloves and a mask. And I want everyone in the kitchen to be wearing a mask and gloves, too.

Wearing gloves is the worst thing a server or any food preparer can do. Why? They think wearing gloves makes it safe for them NOT to wash their hands frequently. Most people, misunderstand the use of gloves. The gloves are worn to protect the person wearing the gloves, not the patrons. When someone wears gloves, they do not realize that the gloves harbor germs just a readily as bare hands do. Not removing the gloves and donning a new pair of gloves is a recipe for disaster.

Don't wear gloves but wash or sanitize hands frequently. That is the way to go. Ditch the gloves unless you have a cut on your hands and you must protect yourself. If that is the case, wash your gloved hands frequently if you don't want to constantly have to change gloves.

Which brings me to the proper way to don and remove gloves. There is a proper way to do this so as not to contaminate clean hands. I would bet many people have no idea how to do this. Hence.....wearing gloves is a very BAD idea.

La lamy
11-08-2020, 01:47 PM
I read that long nails are not supposed to be worn in restaurants which maybe so, but I wonder if the disgust was mostly a sexist thing. Women with long nails and long hair clipped back probably wouldn't have stirred the same reaction right?

retiredguy123
11-08-2020, 01:52 PM
Would you have felt the same if some sexy girl with long blond hair, a White Girl Power hat, tight revealing shorts and long sparklie nails served you? Or would yo have been distracted by her firm bouncy butt?
That's a tough question. But, if I had to be honest, the answer would be no. To both questions actually.

Parnell
11-08-2020, 02:34 PM
I'm glad you didn't name the restaurant because they are struggling to stay alive in the covid crisis.

Barborv
11-08-2020, 02:52 PM
We all have things that gross us out. Has nothing to do with being racist(which I don';t understand what the person is has anything to do with it) or anything else. I have a friend who told me she gets grossed out from servers who are covered in tattoos. My daughter is a pastry chef and is covered in tattoos. My friend did order a speciality cake from her. I guess because she is my daughter and knows so much about her, she had no problem. Can not judge a book by its cover. I also have to add that in the food industry you are not supposed to have long, or painted nails. My point is, I couldn't care less if they are male and wearing a ballet tootoo! But the hands touching my dish is another thing!

Gulfcoast
11-08-2020, 02:54 PM
Would you have felt the same if some sexy girl with long blond hair, a White Girl Power hat, tight revealing shorts and long sparklie nails served you? Or would yo have been distracted by her firm bouncy butt?

I would consider that to be unprofessional and gross. I prefer clean uniforms and a neat well manicured appearance so I would avoid eating an establishment with servers attired as you describe. I would truly wonder about the cleanliness of the kitchen and the restaurant's standards for food preparation.

Number 10 GI
11-08-2020, 03:55 PM
There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

I re-read the original post and no where I read was there a mention of the race of the server. So what is racist about the post? Because they mention BLM? I wouldn't be happy if the server was wearing a MAGA hat/mask and I'm a conservative. I go to an entertainment venue to enjoy myself and get away from all the garbage happening in the world. Political/social statements have no place in a business serving the public. Yeah, I know, racist, racist, racist, racist! Used so much that it means nothing. Get a new dead horse to beat.

coffeebean
11-08-2020, 04:25 PM
Yes like all those middle age white guys showing up in restaurants in shots they wore all day , gentleman put on some big boy pants at night no one wants to see your upper thighs while eating

You aren't serious, right? Most men only own shorts in Florida. They go everywhere in shorts. Where have you been?

coffeebean
11-08-2020, 04:27 PM
You can't discriminate. Particularly if he might have been LBGTQrstuvwxyz.

LMAO. Sounds like what I say too.

Cranford61
11-08-2020, 05:51 PM
Without naming the restaurant your complaint is not helping the rest of us! This PC attitude, 'I don't want to hurt anyone's FEELINGS' and being nice to the world stuff is how we get no results. I am not saying be nasty, but you have a valid issue and in order for it to have any results it's worthless.
I agree. Cowardice to avoid talking to manager and ‘going to Corporate’.

Eg_cruz
11-08-2020, 07:03 PM
Just face the fact YOU had options SPEAK UP, refuse meal and ask for Manager.
Name the Restaurant!
Wow ....why the caps
Chill is all ok

Bellavita
11-08-2020, 07:53 PM
Tell Dolly Parton

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-08-2020, 07:55 PM
If the thing that bothered you was the fingernails, then why did you go out of your way to describe his piercings, the design on his mask, his gender, his piercings, his long hair, and his sparkly hair clips? What did his shoes look like? What condition was his shirt in? Were his pants clean or dirty? Was his apron tied correctly in the back? If you're going to give us all those details about "things that didn't bother you" then why did you choose those specific things that didn't bother you - and then harp on his fingernails? Sorry - not buying it. Seems to me you just wanted to judge someone, and wanted to describe all the things that offend you - and then picked fingernails as your excuse for complaining.

Gulfcoast
11-08-2020, 08:49 PM
If the thing that bothered you was the fingernails, then why did you go out of your way to describe his piercings, the design on his mask, his gender, his piercings, his long hair, and his sparkly hair clips? What did his shoes look like? What condition was his shirt in? Were his pants clean or dirty? Was his apron tied correctly in the back? If you're going to give us all those details about "things that didn't bother you" then why did you choose those specific things that didn't bother you - and then harp on his fingernails? Sorry - not buying it. Seems to me you just wanted to judge someone, and wanted to describe all the things that offend you - and then picked fingernails as your excuse for complaining.

Everything that the Op described would have violated the dress code policy when I used to wait tables. And I don't care if it was a girl or guy decked out like that - we would have been sent home.

I'm all for people being themselves but if you're going to be a food server you can't wear long nails and you need to comply with the restaurant's dress code policy. If the restaurant has a very lax dress code policy for their staff and that makes you uncomfortable you can absolutely go elsewhere. But most managers will tell you that they would want to know why you were going elsewhere.

The exception would be if this was some sort of edgy restaurant or a roadside bar and grill hole in the wall sort of place - when in Rome. But a typical restaurant in The Villages is probably not too "edgy", lol.

mgkw1
11-08-2020, 08:59 PM
Server should have worn gloves !!!!!!!!

Topspinmo
11-08-2020, 09:56 PM
So, women with long nails have gross stuff under them?

Yes.

Topspinmo
11-08-2020, 10:00 PM
Yes like all those middle age white guys showing up in restaurants in shots they wore all day , gentleman put on some big boy pants at night no one wants to see your upper thighs while eating


Then don’t look! Yes, it’s that easy.

BryanTheGolfPro
11-09-2020, 05:38 AM
Waiters are also salesman. "People buy from people they like." If a waiter's appearance is generally offensive, this will be reflected in his tip income. His choice--and mine.

mrrmauu
11-09-2020, 06:06 AM
Would you have felt the same if some sexy girl with long blond hair, a White Girl Power hat, tight revealing shorts and long sparklie nails served you? Or would yo have been distracted by her firm bouncy butt?

Where do I find this restaurant???

oemsp1
11-09-2020, 06:35 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

Where?

Girlcopper
11-09-2020, 06:37 AM
Could have left him a note that said something along the line here is a tip. Pay attention to your grooming.:bigbow:
Well, how rude that is! His grooming is not for you to comment on. Dont like it just get up n leave but no one has to be subjected to your preachings

Beyond The Wall
11-09-2020, 07:11 AM
If you were concerned, just get up and leave and state loudly WHY your leaving. That will get their attention.
If you go to a square and feel unsafe, leave. If you go to a store and feel unsafe, leave.
HOWEVER, if we continue to trash business in TV ,you won’t have any.
Most restaurant's in TV do not have great service. Great servers work where people tip, not leave pocket change.

HeleneGB
11-09-2020, 07:28 AM
I agree with you 100% on all points.

Bethwill
11-09-2020, 07:48 AM
40 years ago I was a waitress in a nice restaurant. We were not allowed to wear nail polish to work because it hid whether or not our nails were clean. BTW, I made a lot of money at that job, while lazy others did not. We did not 'pool' tips, and made money according to the service provided. I hate that most restaurants now pool tips. Very unfair, to all workers.

Marathon Man
11-09-2020, 08:05 AM
If you were concerned, just get up and leave and state loudly WHY your leaving. That will get their attention.
If you go to a square and feel unsafe, leave. If you go to a store and feel unsafe, leave.
HOWEVER, if we continue to trash business in TV ,you won’t have any.
Most restaurant's in TV do not have great service. Great servers work where people tip, not leave pocket change.

Because that you make you look like a reasonable person?

Joelack99
11-09-2020, 08:19 AM
Dirt under super-long fingernails (on any person) is totally gross, and a complaint to management—perhaps, when you are leaving—totally appropriate. However, I fail to see any relevance to mentioning BLM masks, piercings and long hair held by clips if you are not making a racist point.

Gulfcoast
11-09-2020, 10:08 AM
If the guy had a furry tail attached to his backside, kitten ears on his head and a kitty cat whisker mask on his face, would the Op be wrong in pointing those details out? If you've ever seen a "Furry" you will know that some folks dress like that.

My point is, there is a time and a place for self expression and a server job isn't one of those times. When you've been hired to do a job you go by the dress code established by your employer. If a manager is allowing the dress code to slack big time, then maybe a complaint to corporate is warranted. Obviously the manager is aware of what his/her employers are wearing and is choosing to not say anything about it. It's not the customer's job to scold management into compliance.

Villageswimmer
11-09-2020, 10:08 AM
Management problem. Expectations should have been made clear, verbally and in writing, before he was offered the job, then reviewed when the employee came to work. You can’t assume people have common sense. Often, they need clear direction.

OPs failure to discuss with management solved nothing.

Bill14564
11-09-2020, 10:56 AM
Some big assumptions being made in these posts.

The OP took exception to his appearance but no one else seems to have noticed so could it have been that out of the ordinary?

Were the fingernails truly long or just longer than the OP was accustomed to? The OP didn't mention any dirt under the nails, only the length and what could have been under them. So again, were they long and dirty or just not what the OP was accustomed to?

If the long (too long for a man?) hair was held back by clips (sparkly or otherwise) then is there a different standard for men's and women's hair? It probably met the requirements of both the health code and the restaurant.

Where was it stated that the server's appearance did not meet the dress code of the establishment?

And some of the other ____ist and ___phobic comments in these replies say more about the person who chose to post them than they do about the server.

tvbound
11-09-2020, 11:04 AM
If the complaint were solely about long fingernails and would have honestly been made regardless of gender, that's one thing. The fact that all of the rest was purposely and pointedly included, leaves no doubt as to the true intention of the complaint - as I see it anyway.

Fromtherock
11-09-2020, 11:07 AM
Good point. If this was a woman would you be making the same comment ?

Gulfcoast
11-09-2020, 11:31 AM
Some big assumptions being made in these posts.

The OP took exception to his appearance but no one else seems to have noticed so could it have been that out of the ordinary?

Were the fingernails truly long or just longer than the OP was accustomed to? The OP didn't mention any dirt under the nails, only the length and what could have been under them. So again, were they long and dirty or just not what the OP was accustomed to?

If the long (too long for a man?) hair was held back by clips (sparkly or otherwise) then is there a different standard for men's and women's hair? It probably met the requirements of both the health code and the restaurant.

Where was it stated that the server's appearance did not meet the dress code of the establishment?

And some of the other ____ist and ___phobic comments in these replies say more about the person who chose to post them than they do about the server.

We don't know the establishment so of course we don't know what the dress code is. We do know that the Op complained to "corporate" and just the fact that there is a corporate to complain to means that this is likely a chain of some sort. Most chain restaurants do have dress code policies. Using only logic, common sense and my own previous experience as a server - this guy would have been in violation of the dress code policy at 99% of the chain restaurants out there.

If there is no such dress code standards at this particular restaurant then the guy wasn't in violation and Op simply needs to find someplace else to dine.

Byte1
11-09-2020, 11:41 AM
No one really wants to see how the sausage is made. How many folks go back in the kitchen to check out the cooks' attire and hygiene?
Don't get me wrong, I probably would have gotten up and vacated the scene. I never send food back to the kitchen. I just give my comment when I check out, or I get up and leave before eating. I have a favorite fast food place and twice I received cold food. When I left, the cashier asked me how my meal was and I told her. She offered a discount and I refused it saying that I merely told the truth and that it had happened on two occasions. I told her that since I had eaten there on a regular basis and the food was always good, it was a constructive comment, not a condemnation. I said this as low as I could since there were many folks waiting to be seated. The food was always good after that, so either they rectified the glitch or it was just a coincidence.

In this instance, I probably would have left without eating there. I do not wish to be reminded of the BLM cretins and I do not wish to be served by someone with poor hygiene. Call me racist or homophobic if you wish but learn the correct definition before misusing the terms. But, don't get into the habit of using labels too much because one day you may say something similar to someone's face and not just anonymously on the Internet.

Kdixon1260
11-09-2020, 11:43 AM
As a former restaurant owner I will say your half right. Order takers and food delivery people make poor tips. But well trained and proper speaking servers, waiters, and Waitresses make fantastic money. I only hired high end personal which made my sports grill the most successful in my city. I never allow political views to be displayed either

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-09-2020, 01:01 PM
People bitchin because negative talk about restaurants can have an impact on the restaurant. Figured we’ve all see this at one restaurant or another. This is the second restaurant I’ve seen this type of thing at.

It should have an impact on the restaurant. If the food is bad, the service not up to standards and it is not clean, people should know about it before deciding to go there. If the restaurant or any business for that matter is not doing right by its customers it either needs to straighten itself out or go out of business.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-09-2020, 01:03 PM
We don't know the establishment so of course we don't know what the dress code is. We do know that the Op complained to "corporate" and just the fact that there is a corporate to complain to means that this is likely a chain of some sort. Most chain restaurants do have dress code policies. Using only logic, common sense and my own previous experience as a server - this guy would have been in violation of the dress code policy at 99% of the chain restaurants out there.

If there is no such dress code standards at this particular restaurant then the guy wasn't in violation and Op simply needs to find someplace else to dine.

And let the rest of us know so that we don't go there.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-09-2020, 01:05 PM
If the complaint were solely about long fingernails and would have honestly been made regardless of gender, that's one thing. The fact that all of the rest was purposely and pointedly included, leaves no doubt as to the true intention of the complaint - as I see it anyway.

I've been to, worked in and had friends that owned restaurants that had rules about servers fingernails. In many of them women were not allowed to wear nail polish and there fingernails needed to be trimmed to a reasonable length. It sounds like in this case, the servers nails were overly long.

John_W
11-09-2020, 02:08 PM
Those who argue that judging someone by their appearance is discrimination, should think to themselves. How did I pick my partner, how did you choose your house, how did you pick the clothes you wore today? Did appearance and looks have anything to do with it?

There's nothing a restaurant can do that you can't do for yourself at home. When you select a restaurant to dine it's partly due to the the ambience, the atmosphere, and you expect to be waited on, that's why he's called a waiter and he is just as much as part of the ambience. When his attire, hygiene and grooming is so far outside of normal, the ambience of the restaurant and your entire experience is effected or even ruined.

Happinow
11-09-2020, 02:11 PM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

UPDATE: Some of you are ticked off that I didn’t mention the restaurant.....it was Olive Garden....466. Today I got a phone call from the manager apologizing for our more than optimal experience at his restaurant. He said he was addressing the problems. He was kind and responsive. He also sent us a gift card for a future visit at the Olive Garden of our choice. I feel that my concerns were addressed appropriately.

coffeebean
11-09-2020, 02:18 PM
40 years ago I was a waitress in a nice restaurant. We were not allowed to wear nail polish to work because it hid whether or not our nails were clean. BTW, I made a lot of money at that job, while lazy others did not. We did not 'pool' tips, and made money according to the service provided. I hate that most restaurants now pool tips. Very unfair, to all workers.

Is that really true? I surely hope not! Why would a hard worker have to suffer for the lazy people? I like to think we are tipping the person who served us, not some lazy ass.

Gulfcoast
11-09-2020, 02:38 PM
UPDATE: Some of you are ticked off that I didn’t mention the restaurant.....it was Olive Garden....466. Today I got a phone call from the manager apologizing for our more than optimal experience at his restaurant. He said he was addressing the problems. He was kind and responsive. He also sent us a gift card for a future visit at the Olive Garden of our choice. I feel that my concerns were addressed appropriately.

I'm glad that the manager was so responsive but I don't think that you should have mentioned the restaurant's name because that makes the server easily identifiable.

Gulfcoast
11-09-2020, 02:42 PM
I would not feel comfortable writing a review which basically calls one specific server out for inappropriate attire. That's something you 1) write on the comment card 2) complain to the manager about it or 3) complain to corporate about it.

It's a legitimate complaint, IMO. It's just not something that you mention on Yelp.

Barborv
11-09-2020, 05:55 PM
Years ago, when my kids were little , we were at Disney. I went to a restaurant with 2 of my kids and my husband stayed with my little one outside because she was scared of the characters there. Well, The waiter we had, although a very nice man, seemed a little off and when he came to serve our food he had drool coming down his chin. I was so grossed looking at the food he placed in front of us. I couldn't eat it and asked for the check and left. That was in the days when I was timid to say anything. Didn't want to get the man in trouble because I wasn't sure if he had some disability and he was very sweet. Now a days!! There would be NO WAY I would of paid for that meal. Not afraid to speak , in a kind manner of course.
Everything the op described about the waiter, the only thing that wouldn't bother me was the hair being clipped with sparkle clips. The mask wouldnt gross me out, it would just **** me off!. BUT the long nails in my dish would kind of gross me out! I get annoyed even when someone who is well groomed has their finger in my plate that I always push what was near the finger off my plate and then wipe with my napkin.

Boomer
11-09-2020, 07:47 PM
. . .

Marathon Man
11-10-2020, 07:53 AM
Is that really true? I surely hope not! Why would a hard worker have to suffer for the lazy people? I like to think we are tipping the person who served us, not some lazy ass.

On the other hand, why should a hard worker be penalized because they ended up with a less generous tipper? This is why the tips are pooled. It eliminates the luck of the draw.

Bill14564
11-10-2020, 08:59 AM
On the other hand, why should a hard worker be penalized because they ended up with a less generous tipper? This is why the tips are pooled. It eliminates the luck of the draw.

"luck of the draw" would imply that the quality of service has little to do with the tip. I suspect that most of the time the amount of the tip has a lot to do with service and the hard worker benefits from that.

But let's take your idea a little farther. If I'm a lazy worker and my tips are low but I know I will get some of the other worker's tips then what incentive do I have to improve? If I'm a hard worker and my tips are good but I know they will be taken from me and given to my lazy coworker then what incentive to I have to continue working hard? The lazy worker continues to be lazy, the hard worker stops trying, and the customer loses.

I'd much prefer my gratuity go to the person who provided good service to me (even if he had long hair and piercings) than to the other servers who did not.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-10-2020, 09:07 AM
I'm glad that the manager was so responsive but I don't think that you should have mentioned the restaurant's name because that makes the server easily identifiable.

The restaurant and the server need to be identified so that we can make a decision whether or not to do business there.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-10-2020, 09:10 AM
On the other hand, why should a hard worker be penalized because they ended up with a less generous tipper? This is why the tips are pooled. It eliminates the luck of the draw.

Pooling tips can work both ways. Hard working attentive employees should receive more in tips, but they won't always. Some people are good tippers and other's are not regardless of how good the server is. Sometimes the amount of tips that you get is more due to the luck that you have in getting good tippers or cheapskates than it is to the service provided.

OhioBuckeye
11-10-2020, 09:25 AM
It should have an impact on the restaurant. If the food is bad, the service not up to standards and it is not clean, people should know about it before deciding to go there. If the restaurant or any business for that matter is not doing right by its customers it either needs to straighten itself out or go out of business.
Dr. Jim Winston this young man that had his long fingernails in someone’s food should of had rubber gloves on, at least until President Biden takes control. Then the president will be able to say “I cured the Covid19, man, everything thing is open for business “.

Number 10 GI
11-10-2020, 11:19 AM
Is that really true? I surely hope not! Why would a hard worker have to suffer for the lazy people? I like to think we are tipping the person who served us, not some lazy ass.

It's called socialism/communism.

retiredguy123
11-10-2020, 12:23 PM
On the other hand, why should a hard worker be penalized because they ended up with a less generous tipper? This is why the tips are pooled. It eliminates the luck of the draw.
The luck of the draw will have no effect if you work at the job long enough to even out the odds. But, I don't like the process of pooling tips anyway.

Gulfcoast
11-10-2020, 03:01 PM
The restaurant and the server need to be identified so that we can make a decision whether or not to do business there.

If the restaurant seems to lack a dress code in general, I would mention that in a review.

If it was one employee, I would direct my concerns towards management or corporate. If they choose not to act and continue to let things slide, see option #1.

coffeebean
11-10-2020, 03:38 PM
On the other hand, why should a hard worker be penalized because they ended up with a less generous tipper? This is why the tips are pooled. It eliminates the luck of the draw.

I had not thought about it that way. Hmmm. I still prefer to know the tip we are leaving is for the waiter/waitress who served us.

Mrprez
11-10-2020, 04:36 PM
I had not thought about it that way. Hmmm. I still prefer to know the tip we are leaving is for the waiter/waitress who served us.

I’m with you! I leave a tip for MY server and not the others.

Gulfcoast
11-10-2020, 04:46 PM
The luck of the draw will have no effect if you work at the job long enough to even out the odds. But, I don't like the process of pooling tips anyway.

As a former server, I can attest that there are parties who tip very poorly and might even stiff you for no good reason. But if you do a quality job, most of the time you will be earning at least 20% and often more than that. It all evens out.

A server that offers poor service/presentation is going to earn an occasional good tip from sympathetic customers but will get stiffed more frequently by unsatisfied customers or, even more frequently, will be tipped 10% or less. Generally, this server will quit and find a job more suited to their own individual skills. Waiting tables is not for everyone.

When you pool tips, you average the tips and the good servers are the ones who take the pay hit which isn't at all fair. The only time that pooling tips would work is if all of the servers were equally good or equally bad across the board.

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-10-2020, 05:14 PM
The way minimum wage for servers works these days in most states, it's not really very efficient to pool tips. There are two different minimum wages - one for tip-earners, one for everyone else. In some states, the two have to END UP being the same, or better, for the tip-earners.

Basically if minimum is $10...

then the employer can pool the tips, give each employee only $5/hour and as long as the tips combine with the $5 to equal $10 per hour - the employer doesn't have to pay more. So the employer is only on the hook for a percentage of the actual minimum wage. If the employee doesn't get any tips at all, he is guaranteed that $5/hour from the employer. But he isn't guaranteed more than the standard $10 minimum for the state, after the tip pool has been distributed.

And then some states require that the tipped amount be documented by the employer so that the appropriate state income tax be deducted from their paycheck. So the employer collects all the tip money and divvies it up at the end of the shift.

Being a server who relies on tips is not exactly the same process from one place to another, from one state to another, or even from one country to another.

applecruiser
11-11-2020, 08:13 AM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!
I can agree that you were put off by the long nails in the bowl- I would too. what I DON'T understand is your need to mention that he wore a BLM mask???The mask didn't have anything ( or at least it shouldn't have) to do with what u experienced with your food.

coffeebean
11-11-2020, 03:12 PM
I can agree that you were put off by the long nails in the bowl- I would too. what I DON'T understand is your need to mention that he wore a BLM mask???The mask didn't have anything ( or at least it shouldn't have) to do with what u experienced with your food.

The BLM mask has EVERYTHING to do with the ambiance of the restaurant. Patrons pay not only for their food and service but for the atmosphere of the restaurant. Having a BLM mask in my face as I'm trying to enjoy a nice meal is offensive to me and I would not put up with that.

yabbadu
11-12-2020, 01:58 PM
Let's face it folks! Here in Florida and The Villages we have Old Farts and Old Bitty's , many of whom live their lives to complain!

coffeebean
11-12-2020, 02:06 PM
Let's face it folks! Here in Florida and The Villages we have Old Farts and Old Bitty's , many of whom live their lives to complain!

Very proud to be a 70 year old biddy. LOL.

manaboutown
11-12-2020, 02:32 PM
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

Just reading this makes me want to throw up a meal I had three hours ago. YUK!!!

Indydealmaker
11-12-2020, 02:53 PM
Let's face it folks! Here in Florida and The Villages we have Old Farts and Old Bitty's , many of whom live their lives to complain!

So, demanding that service providers meet basic standards is unreasonable?

jarodrig
11-12-2020, 02:54 PM
Let's face it folks! Here in Florida and The Villages we have Old Farts and Old Bitty's , many of whom live their lives to complain!

That’s the most sensible and logical post on this entire thread !!!

EdFNJ
11-12-2020, 07:18 PM
It concerns me to feel I am living around so many close minded judgemental people. Welcome to The Villages. ;) Before we moved down here we expected some because our country is a melting pot and we were aware of the area however it is a lot more extreme that we ever imagined.

EdFNJ
11-12-2020, 07:25 PM
And let the rest of us know so that we don't go there. Probably Taco Bell. ;) Edit: OP said "Olive Garden" close but a shade better. :D