View Full Version : New Pfizer Covid-19 Vaccine 90% Effective! Will You Get It?
MandoMan
11-09-2020, 07:57 AM
“The company said that the analysis found that the vaccine was more than 90 percent effective in preventing the disease among trial volunteers who had no evidence of prior coronavirus infection. If the results hold up, that level of protection would put it on par with highly effective childhood vaccines for diseases such as measles. No serious safety concerns have been observed, the company said.”
“Work on the vaccine began in Mainz, Germany, in late January, . . . BioNTech used a technology that had never been approved for use in people. It takes genetic material called messenger RNA and injects it into muscle cells, which treat it like instructions for building a protein — a protein found on the surface of the coronavirus. The proteins then stimulate the immune system and are believed to result in long-lasting protection against the virus. Other companies, including Moderna, are also using messenger RNA technology.
BioNTech quickly identified 20 vaccine candidates, and began testing them on rodents. But the company lacked the experience and resources to rapidly conduct a major clinical trial. So Mr. Sahin called Pfizer.”
Shoot me up! How about you?
billethkid
11-09-2020, 08:21 AM
When released for public use, yes we will get the vaccine.
ctmurray
11-09-2020, 08:23 AM
Yes we will get the vaccine.
Two Bills
11-09-2020, 08:26 AM
Rolling up my sleeve now!
graciegirl
11-09-2020, 08:37 AM
All three of us are waiting with our arms outstretched. Several are being tested by the excellent facilities at Cincinnati Childrens Medical Center Research facility who has been ranked in the top three in the country for many years. I have had many dealings with Cincinnati Childrens and our 55 year old daughter still sees them for checkups for her congenital heart defect. When they say GO....we will get an order from our excellent doctor here in The Villages (Dr. Joseph Rizzi) and get those shots....I wonder then how long we will have to wait to have at least partial immunity established so I can once again SHOP AT PUBLIX. My dear husband has been our purchasing agent since March and he does his very best but this cook and grocery maven can't WAIT to waltz down the aisles of Publix once again.
Mrprez
11-09-2020, 08:42 AM
No doubt here. Just tell me when and where.
PugMom
11-09-2020, 08:47 AM
always being the odd-man-out, No, i would not
Bill32
11-09-2020, 09:10 AM
I'm in.....
rjn5656
11-09-2020, 09:14 AM
Not me. Waiting for more testing.
blueash
11-09-2020, 09:19 AM
“The company said that the analysis found that the vaccine was more than 90 percent effective in preventing the disease among trial volunteers who had no evidence of prior coronavirus infection. If the results hold up, that level of protection would put it on par with highly effective childhood vaccines for diseases such as measles. No serious safety concerns have been observed, the company said.”
“Work on the vaccine began in Mainz, Germany, in late January, . . . BioNTech used a technology that had never been approved for use in people. It takes genetic material called messenger RNA and injects it into muscle cells, which treat it like instructions for building a protein — a protein found on the surface of the coronavirus. The proteins then stimulate the immune system and are believed to result in long-lasting protection against the virus. Other companies, including Moderna, are also using messenger RNA technology.
BioNTech quickly identified 20 vaccine candidates, and began testing them on rodents. But the company lacked the experience and resources to rapidly conduct a major clinical trial. So Mr. Sahin called Pfizer.”
Shoot me up! How about you?
Are you quoting an article in the New York Times as accurate and informative? You really should cite your source, not just quote some material.
Bonnevie
11-09-2020, 09:22 AM
if Dr. Fauci says it's ok, I'll gladly get it.
Dana1963
11-09-2020, 09:27 AM
“The company said that the analysis found that the vaccine was more than 90 percent effective in preventing the disease among trial volunteers who had no evidence of prior coronavirus infection. If the results hold up, that level of protection would put it on par with highly effective childhood vaccines for diseases such as measles. No serious safety concerns have been observed, the company said.”
“Work on the vaccine began in Mainz, Germany, in late January, . . . BioNTech used a technology that had never been approved for use in people. It takes genetic material called messenger RNA and injects it into muscle cells, which treat it like instructions for building a protein — a protein found on the surface of the coronavirus. The proteins then stimulate the immune system and are believed to result in long-lasting protection against the virus. Other companies, including Moderna, are also using messenger RNA technology.
BioNTech quickly identified 20 vaccine candidates, and began testing them on rodents. But the company lacked the experience and resources to rapidly conduct a major clinical trial. So Mr. Sahin called Pfizer.”
Shoot me up! How about you?
Very optimistic according to News initially only 50,000 doses but mass inoculations may not be available til mid 2021stressing masks and social distancing still.
New Englander
11-09-2020, 10:04 AM
As soon as it's approved and available I'll get it.
stanley
11-09-2020, 10:13 AM
Shoot me up! How about you?
No.
Stan
coffeebean
11-09-2020, 10:13 AM
Yes, absolutely. I want to do my part for our country to achieve herd immunity, SAFELY.
Number 10 GI
11-09-2020, 10:22 AM
Yes!
Stu from NYC
11-09-2020, 10:25 AM
When it is available and several doctor acquaintances say it is safe we will get on line
Altavia
11-09-2020, 10:29 AM
Participating in the trial - so far, so good.
Only 94 of the +30,000 US participants have gotten COVID so far so this implies 9 of the vaccine receipants have gotten the virus vs. 85 in the placebo wing. So the study continues.
Fingers crossed...
Pfizer’s Covid-19 Vaccine Proves 90% Effective in Latest Trials - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-from-pfizer-and-biontech-works-better-than-expected-11604922300)
Madelaine Amee
11-09-2020, 10:29 AM
Yes, as soon as the scientists say it is safe. I have two new grandchildren I cannot see right now and I have a wedding I want to attend, so YES we are anxiously waiting.
tophcfa
11-09-2020, 10:54 AM
After a couple of months, and a few million other people get the vaccine without issue, I am in.
Topspinmo
11-09-2020, 10:59 AM
Not until I read the side effects?
patfla06
11-09-2020, 11:13 AM
Eventually.
I won’t be first in line.
Gulfcoast
11-09-2020, 11:15 AM
No. I believe I've already been exposed to the virus multiple times and probably have already had it. I will, however, strongly encourage anyone who is concerned about this virus to get this vaccine. The sooner they have peace of mind and feel safe, the sooner things will get back to normal.
Dgodin
11-09-2020, 11:17 AM
“The company said that the analysis found that the vaccine was more than 90 percent effective in preventing the disease among trial volunteers who had no evidence of prior coronavirus infection. If the results hold up, that level of protection would put it on par with highly effective childhood vaccines for diseases such as measles. No serious safety concerns have been observed, the company said.”
“Work on the vaccine began in Mainz, Germany, in late January, . . . BioNTech used a technology that had never been approved for use in people. It takes genetic material called messenger RNA and injects it into muscle cells, which treat it like instructions for building a protein — a protein found on the surface of the coronavirus. The proteins then stimulate the immune system and are believed to result in long-lasting protection against the virus. Other companies, including Moderna, are also using messenger RNA technology.
BioNTech quickly identified 20 vaccine candidates, and began testing them on rodents. But the company lacked the experience and resources to rapidly conduct a major clinical trial. So Mr. Sahin called Pfizer.”
Shoot me up! How about you?
First, I want to see President Trump or President Elect Biden take it. A public example would be very helpful given the skepticism people have towards the vaccine.
Gulfcoast
11-09-2020, 11:40 AM
First, I want to see President Trump or President Elect Biden take it. A public example would be very helpful given the skepticism people have towards the vaccine.
President Trump already had the virus so why would he get the vaccine?
Biden seems very worried about the virus so he should be first in line to get this vaccine. Same with Fauci and Harris.
jacksonbrown
11-09-2020, 11:57 AM
Biden seems very worried about the virus so he should be first in line to get this vaccine. Same with Fauci and Harris.
Now there is a comment with which I can agree. Well done Gulfcoast.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-09-2020, 12:25 PM
I will take it as soon as humanly possible. I understand that the military is going to distribute it.
wendyquat
11-09-2020, 12:43 PM
Not here!
Boilerman
11-09-2020, 02:01 PM
Once approved, absolutely!
Gulfcoast
11-09-2020, 02:58 PM
NY State bar has passed MANDATORY Covid-19 vaccinations. If an insufficient number of people willingly get the vaccine, they could be ordered to be vaccinated.
Velvet
11-09-2020, 03:08 PM
NY State bar has passed MANDATORY Covid-19 vaccinations. If an insufficient number of people willingly get the vaccine, they could be ordered to be vaccinated.
That’ll be fun to try to enforce. I have friends in NY. Obdurate to say the least.
vintageogauge
11-09-2020, 03:20 PM
If it's not good enough for Cuomo it's good enough for me, I'll be ready and willing. How much testing goes into the new flu vaccines every year or is it always the same?
New Englander
11-09-2020, 04:53 PM
I've been wondering how they know if a vaccine is effective? Are people who get the vaccine exposed to the live virus?
stanley
11-09-2020, 04:55 PM
NY State bar has passed MANDATORY Covid-19 vaccinations. If an insufficient number of people willingly get the vaccine, they could be ordered to be vaccinated.
Well what they really did is pass a "resolution", which legally means squat.
"The New York State Bar Association on Saturday passed a resolution urging the state to consider making it mandatory for all New Yorkers to undergo COVID-19 vaccination when a vaccine becomes available, even if people object to it for “religious, philosophical or personal reasons.”
I'm sure mandatory vaccinations will be fought in the Supreme
Court(s), again, if and when the time comes.
Stanley
coffeebean
11-09-2020, 08:53 PM
President Trump already had the virus so why would he get the vaccine?
Biden seems very worried about the virus so he should be first in line to get this vaccine. Same with Fauci and Harris.
It is not known yet how long protection (immunity) from the virus will last after a person has had the virus.
coffeebean
11-09-2020, 08:56 PM
Nope. And I don't find the timing of Pfizer's announcement coincidental.
I heard on MSNBC today that Pfizer has a third party conducting the vaccine trials. The Pfizer CEO was notified only yesterday, Nov. 8th, at 2:00pm of the news that was announced today.
The timing of this announcement had nothing to do with the election.
skyking
11-09-2020, 09:24 PM
I've been wondering how they know if a vaccine is effective? Are people who get the vaccine exposed to the live virus?
They see if the subjects develop effective antibodies.
chet2020
11-10-2020, 12:06 AM
Well what they really did is pass a "resolution", which legally means squat.
"The New York State Bar Association on Saturday passed a resolution urging the state to consider making it mandatory for all New Yorkers to undergo COVID-19 vaccination when a vaccine becomes available, even if people object to it for “religious, philosophical or personal reasons.”
I'm sure mandatory vaccinations will be fought in the Supreme
Court(s), again, if and when the time comes.
Stanley
The State Bar qualifies their statement by saying that making vaccines mandatory should not be the first option. If voluntary vaccinations are sufficiently high, it's not necessary.
Timothyimitchell
11-10-2020, 06:30 AM
I've been just fine without any vaccines. No way will I have that injected into my body.
biker1
11-10-2020, 06:40 AM
I assume you don't travel extensively. There are many parts of the world where certain vaccinations are highly recommended. You almost certainly had some vaccinations as a child.
I've been just fine without any vaccines. No way will I have that injected into my body.
44Apple
11-10-2020, 06:46 AM
Yup.
asianthree
11-10-2020, 08:14 AM
Anaphylactic for the flu vaccine, I’m certainly not going to take a risk on a vaccine that has been on the market for a few months.
But if New York does think that they can impose a law everyone must get the vaccine, their families might end up with a very large lawsuit payout, for anyone who has adverse reactions
Chi-Town
11-10-2020, 08:53 AM
No. I believe I've already been exposed to the virus multiple times and probably have already had it. I will, however, strongly encourage anyone who is concerned about this virus to get this vaccine. The sooner they have peace of mind and feel safe, the sooner things will get back to normal.
Best thing to do is get tested to see if you have the antibodies. It's very simple and fast with no nasal swab, and it will change belief into reality.
Altavia
11-10-2020, 11:54 AM
I've been wondering how they know if a vaccine is effective? Are people who get the vaccine exposed to the live virus?
They vacinate half a population with the vaccine and the other half without. And then monitor who gets COVID and who does not. At his point, it appears that out of +35,000 participants, close to 100 have gotten COVID, only 9 of those who received the vaccine got COVID.
They do not expose participants to the virus.
chet2020
11-10-2020, 12:27 PM
They vacinate half a population with the vaccine and the other half without. And then monitor who gets COVID and who does not. At his point, it appears that out of +35,000 participants, close to 100 have gotten COVID, only 9 of those who received the vaccine got COVID.
They do not expose participants to the virus.
There are trials called "challenge trials" where they give people the experimental vaccine, then give them the live virus. These trials are considered unethical by many. However, they are highly efficient and fast. There is a group in England that wants to run challenge trials and the last time I looked, they had 37,000 people that would volunteer for such trials.
tvbound
11-10-2020, 12:33 PM
We will get the vaccine as soon as we're allowed, but will continue to wear masks and social distance until such time as the preponderance of legitimate scientists - indicate that the virus is actually under control.
coffeebean
11-10-2020, 03:15 PM
I assume you don't travel extensively. There are many parts of the world where certain vaccinations are highly recommended. You almost certainly had some vaccinations as a child.
In my neck of the woods, (Long Island, NY), we kids had to get vaccinated to attend school. I know for sure I had the polio vaccine. Other than that, I can't remember what other vaccines I had, if any.
coffeebean
11-10-2020, 03:21 PM
They vacinate half a population with the vaccine and the other half without. And then monitor who gets COVID and who does not. At his point, it appears that out of +35,000 participants, close to 100 have gotten COVID, only 9 of those who received the vaccine got COVID.
They do not expose participants to the virus.
They send the participants out into the community to live their lives as they normally would. But, but, but, what if the participants wore masks and socially distanced themselves from others? Would that skew the results of the trials? Or are the participants told not to wear masks and not to social distance?
coffeebean
11-10-2020, 03:24 PM
There are trials called "challenge trials" where they give people the experimental vaccine, then give them the live virus. These trials are considered unethical by many. However, they are highly efficient and fast. There is a group in England that wants to run challenge trials and the last time I looked, they had 37,000 people that would volunteer for such trials.
My understanding is that the participants in this type of "challenge trial" is that they receive a low inoculation of the virus. Hopefully, the participants do not have bad outcomes if they do contract the virus, having either mild symptoms or are asymptomatic.
dsnrbec
11-10-2020, 03:47 PM
Never.
Altavia
11-10-2020, 03:53 PM
They send the participants out into the community to live their lives as they normally would. But, but, but, what if the participants wore masks and socially distanced themselves from others? Would that skew the results of the trials? Or are the participants told not to wear masks and not to social distance?
We were not ask to change any behaviors. Normal population.
wwdgd
11-10-2020, 05:39 PM
[QUOTE=Robbie0723;1858358]Participating in the trial - so far, so good.
Robbie, were you able to determine if you were given the vaccine or a placebo by side effects after injection?
Velvet
11-10-2020, 06:09 PM
We were not ask to change any behaviors. Normal population.
Just want to say how much I appreciate you sharing. Can’t invalidate your experience. :) May you be safe and well.
OrangeBlossomBaby
11-10-2020, 06:27 PM
The CEO of Pfizer made a statement as such. Yes, I believe it.
This is what's so frustrating with people who insist that "mainstream media" is "fake news." They THINK they're talking about the entire media. What they are actually meaning (but in their ignorance - not understanding this at all) are the editorials and discussions and opinions and "news shows" ABOUT news.
What the news is - is the CEO of Pfizer announcing in front of the mainstream media, who is presenting the announcement live, whatever he announces about the vaccine. That really IS news. Whether it's on mainstream media or alt-right conspiracy crack-sites or on your mom's answering machine - it qualifies as legitimate news. What Joe Anchorman says might happen as a result of this announcement? That's opinion. It's "spin." And it's also factually correct. That result really and truly MIGHT happen. Will it happen? Who knows. That's in the future. No one can predict the future. But if it ends up happening, then Joe Anchorman's prediction will have been correct. Does that make Joe Anchorman's prediction news? Nope. But - you know what? It makes the fact that Joe Anchorman made a prediction that came true - news.
Perhaps a subtle difference to some. A pretty obvious difference to those who understand news vs. opinion, journalism vs. editorialism.
The fact that there was an election on November 3? That's news. It is an actual thing that really did happen.
What this station thinks about that election? Not news. Not "fake news" - it's just not news at all. It's an opinion. Opinions aren't news. They're opinions.
It's like the entirety of American civilization has forgotten the difference between information and opinion.
VApeople
11-10-2020, 08:46 PM
I've been just fine without any vaccines. No way will I have that injected into my body.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
No vaccine for me until a lot of people have taken it and there are extremely few cases of bad side effects.
Altavia
11-10-2020, 09:05 PM
[QUOTE=Robbie0723;1858358]Participating in the trial - so far, so good.
Robbie, were you able to determine if you were given the vaccine or a placebo by side effects after injection?
No side affects or antibodies so fairly confident I received the placebo. They indicated in the past, placebo group was offered the vaccine once released to help continue the studies.
Art cov
11-11-2020, 12:04 AM
always being the odd-man-out, No, i would not
Been 38 years since I had a flu shot, so far hardly ever get sick. God is great!
Art cov
11-11-2020, 12:18 AM
This is what's so frustrating with people who insist that "mainstream media" is "fake news." They THINK they're talking about the entire media. What they are actually meaning (but in their ignorance - not understanding this at all) are the editorials and discussions and opinions and "news shows" ABOUT news.
What the news is - is the CEO of Pfizer announcing in front of the mainstream media, who is presenting the announcement live, whatever he announces about the vaccine. That really IS news. Whether it's on mainstream media or alt-right conspiracy crack-sites or on your mom's answering machine - it qualifies as legitimate news. What Joe Anchorman says might happen as a result of this announcement? That's opinion. It's "spin." And it's also factually correct. That result really and truly MIGHT happen. Will it happen? Who knows. That's in the future. No one can predict the future. But if it ends up happening, then Joe Anchorman's prediction will have been correct. Does that make Joe Anchorman's prediction news? Nope. But - you know what? It makes the fact that Joe Anchorman made a prediction that came true - news.
Perhaps a subtle difference to some. A pretty obvious difference to those who understand news vs. opinion, journalism vs. editorialism.
The fact that there was an election on November 3? That's news. It is an actual thing that really did happen.
What this station thinks about that election? Not news. Not "fake news" - it's just not news at all. It's an opinion. Opinions aren't news. They're opinions.
It's like the entirety of American civilization has forgotten the difference between information and opinion.
Most all news is agenda driven and the dumbing down of America. It’s amazing how little people really know. Some people will say”(I never heard that!)”. Because the news they watch never tells them anything but propaganda and their agenda. They really believe if their favorite news don’t tell it, then it didn’t happen. Could the majority be sheep to the slaughter?
Bay Kid
11-11-2020, 07:35 AM
Most all news is agenda driven and the dumbing down of America. It’s amazing how little people really know. Some people will say”(I never heard that!)”. Because the news they watch never tells them anything but propaganda and their agenda. They really believe if their favorite news don’t tell it, then it didn’t happen. Could the majority be sheep to the slaughter?
Who can you believe? Strange that this vaccine shows up 1 week after???
Back in the day we trusted our teachers, news media and politicians. Not anymore.
coffeebean
11-11-2020, 09:10 AM
We were not ask to change any behaviors. Normal population.
Did you wear masks and social distance? To me, that is not normal behavior during normal times. It has become normal requested behavior during this global pandemic.
Gulfcoast
11-11-2020, 12:18 PM
Been 38 years since I had a flu shot, so far hardly ever get sick. God is great!
I only got a flu shot during the years that I had small children. The last time we got the shot was awful and we got the flu anyway.
We stopped getting it over a decade ago. We've had the flu a couple of times but we don't get that sick from it. I believe that natural immunity is far superior to vaccination whenever possible.
I also think that all of the hyper cleanliness, mask wearing and distancing is going to be terrible for people in the long run because it will weaken their immune system to even the most mild of bugs.
Velvet
11-11-2020, 03:15 PM
I only got a flu shot during the years that I had small children. The last time we got the shot was awful and we got the flu anyway.
We stopped getting it over a decade ago. We've had the flu a couple of times but we don't get that sick from it. I believe that natural immunity is far superior to vaccination whenever possible.
I also think that all of the hyper cleanliness, mask wearing and distancing is going to be terrible for people in the long run because it will weaken their immune system to even the most mild of bugs.
There might be something to this logic. It reminds me a bit of the Spartans:
“The Spartan government was only interested in the best for its state, which meant that strong children were the only ones that would survive. Both baby girls and boys were put through initial tests to see if they were strong enough to be useful to the state. If a child did not pass these fitness or health tests, they would be left to die, outside of main living area of the state, typically in the wild, or in the mountains. Sparta was not a state to accept anything but the best, and this practise started at a young age.”
Gulfcoast
11-11-2020, 04:20 PM
There might be something to this logic. It reminds me a bit of the Spartans:
“The Spartan government was only interested in the best for its state, which meant that strong children were the only ones that would survive. Both baby girls and boys were put through initial tests to see if they were strong enough to be useful to the state. If a child did not pass these fitness or health tests, they would be left to die, outside of main living area of the state, typically in the wild, or in the mountains. Sparta was not a state to accept anything but the best, and this practise started at a young age.”
Natural herd immunity is protective to the group as a whole. Even having had a different coronavirus in the fairly recent past is thought by some to be protective towards this particular coronavirus. In other words, getting sick from the milder bugs helps to prevent you from getting very sick from the more aggressive bugs.
No one is suggesting sending the weak off to die in the woods. I apologize if it sounded that way.
Velvet
11-11-2020, 04:35 PM
Natural herd immunity is protective to the group as a whole. Even having had a different coronavirus in the fairly recent past is thought by some to be protective towards this particular coronavirus. In other words, getting sick from the milder bugs helps to prevent you from getting very sick from the more aggressive bugs.
No one is suggesting sending the weak off to die in the woods. I apologize if it sounded that way.
I was a bit tongue in cheek, I knew that you were a wonderful parent from your other posts. It is true what you said the children who are never exposed to anything become the most susceptible.
I am afraid of this virus because so many can’t become immune to it but succumb fatally. You may be hearing my fears.
Topspinmo
11-11-2020, 05:29 PM
I assume you don't travel extensively. There are many parts of the world where certain vaccinations are highly recommended. You almost certainly had some vaccinations as a child.
Or been in military and stationed overseas?
Gulfcoast
11-11-2020, 06:04 PM
I was a bit tongue in cheek, I knew that you were a wonderful parent from your other posts. It is true what you said the children who are never exposed to anything become the most susceptible.
I am afraid of this virus because so many can’t become immune to it but succumb fatally. You may be hearing my fears.
I'm 55 with a HS kid and a college kid living at home. They go to work, school, see friends, go to the beach, theme parks, football games and even go on road trip adventures to other states. I am so grateful that they are able to enjoy this time of their lives because this age won't last forever and they should be having fun. If they haven't gotten the virus by now they aren't going to get it. Ditto with me because I've been around them. I doubt that we will get the vaccine.
On the other hand, I have an 85 year old mom who lives in an independent living residence. I have to be much more careful around her. At first I did her errands for her and delivered them to her outside, no hugs. But when restrictions started to lift, she began to enjoy getting out and about again. We are very careful to avoid crowds, wear masks, socially distance, visit stores at less busy times. She does better when she gets sunlight, fresh air and a change of scene. Most of us do. She will likely want the vaccine.
So I have been routinely stepping between the relative freedom of the young and healthy and then on over to the fairly restrictive world of my mom. Different people have different needs. This is not a one size fits all. People can figure out if they want this vaccine all by themselves.
maybe
11-11-2020, 09:07 PM
They don't yet know how long immunity from being infected will last. Same for the vaccine I think. So by the time it is available, Trump's immunity could be gone.
NECHFalcon68
11-11-2020, 09:33 PM
Storage requirements for the Pfizer vaccine is -70C, with max of 5 days at 2-8C prior to use.
Effectiveness of the vaccine depends on proper storage.
Having been in the vaccine/cold chain distribution business for 15 years, I expect this to be challenging for most facilities.
Garywt
11-11-2020, 09:35 PM
My doctor has told me absolutely no for me. Will need to wait to see if it is actually working and not giving the people the virus before he will let me get it. I do anything he says as he has my life in his hands.
camaguey48
11-12-2020, 05:17 AM
if Dr. Fauci says it's ok, I'll gladly get it.
Not happening
biker1
11-12-2020, 08:11 AM
If your Dr. actually suggested that the Pfizer vaccine can infect you with the coronavirus then you should be looking for a new Dr. The vaccine may, however, produce side effects and/or it may not be very effective.
My doctor has told me absolutely no for me. Will need to wait to see if it is actually working and not giving the people the virus before he will let me get it. I do anything he says as he has my life in his hands.
Altavia
11-12-2020, 08:47 AM
If your Dr. actually suggested that the Pfizer vaccine can infect you with the coronavirus then you should be looking for a new Dr. The vaccine may, however, produce side effects and/or it may not be very effective.
As thinking the same 😜.
No live virus used to manufacture RNA vaccines, fingers crossed the are reasonably effective and safe.
Wouldn't hurt to ask our physicians if/when/what vaccine they will take and recommend for their staff/family.
blueash
11-12-2020, 12:20 PM
My doctor has told me absolutely no for me. Will need to wait to see if it is actually working and not giving the people the virus before he will let me get it. I do anything he says as he has my life in his hands.
I'll say this as gently as I can. Your doctor is an idiot. There is ZERO chance this vaccine can give people the virus. ZERO So either you are making up a story or you have a pathetically uninformed doctor who knows nothing about this vaccine and how it is produced. Call his office today as he has your life in his hands and ask for an explanation of how this vaccine can give you COVID. As he is such an excellent doctor you should post his name so we all can get the outstanding care he provides.
EDIT Ok one other possibility. You completely misunderstood what your doctor said.
Aloha1
11-12-2020, 01:29 PM
Count me in the first group to get a vaccine. Keep in mind, there are multiple MRNA candidates coming on line quickly along with those using the more conventional vaccine production regimen. There will be choices!
And regarding those who say, "why bother, the immunity may not last long", you get a flu shot every year. Why? Because the immunity "doesn't last long" plus the virus mutates.The first SARS-Cov2 candidate out of the gate shows an effective rate of 90% . The typical yearly flu shot averages 60% effectiveness. I don't care if I have to get a shot every year. It's the price I willingly pay to lead a normal life.
coffeebean
11-12-2020, 01:38 PM
My doctor has told me absolutely no for me. Will need to wait to see if it is actually working and not giving the people the virus before he will let me get it. I do anything he says as he has my life in his hands.
The Pfizer vaccine uses RNA technology. If you are so inclined, there is plenty of information on the internet about RNA technology. Virus, live or dead, is not used to make this vaccine so there is zero chance of anyone contracting Covid from the vaccine. Side effects are another issue although, so far there have been no adverse serious side effects with the Pfizer vaccine trials. Looking really good so far. Sign me up! I'm ready to live life normally once again.
coffeebean
11-12-2020, 01:41 PM
If your Dr. actually suggested that the Pfizer vaccine can infect you with the coronavirus then you should be looking for a new Dr. The vaccine may, however, produce side effects and/or it may not be very effective.
Just now read your response here. Same thing I just said but in a bit of a different way.
biker1
11-12-2020, 05:56 PM
I am pretty sure the poster misunderstood what his Dr. said. It is hard to imagine a situation where the Dr. stated what the poster asserted. However, if he did then ....
Just now read your response here. Same thing I just said but in a bit of a different way.
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