Train Horns.

[Klink1627]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

[Joe V.]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

Haha. You are funny!

[papasetti82]

Thats like buying next to the Airport and then complaining about the noise.

[billlaur]

just call main office of CSX RR Lines,im sure they will stop the horns for you...:boom:

[jerseyvillager]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

Buyer Beware. Did they just build the railroad? Get a good pair of earplugs.

[dewilson58]

Unfortunately the train was there before you. There are more and more intersections in the area and they must blow.

[SIRE1]

If you look at Google Maps, you can see that along 301, from 42 all the way down to Coleman, there are a LOT of small farm roads that cross the tracks. Only the major East-West roads have gates and flashing lights. So the train is going to have to use the horn at each of those road crossing to warn vehicles that a train is coming. Unfortunately that is a lot of horns whenever a train goes by, but be thankful we don't have to pay to install gates and lights at each of those crossings !!!!!!

[tophcfa]

Trains are legally required to blow their horns in certain situations, such as when approaching a road crossing.

[davem4616]

Go watch the movie "My Cousin Vinny"...that'll give you some insight on the trains pulling into town

remember this was cow county before TV started buying up the land ....just saying

[Bogie Shooter]

So, you passed on the sink holes and opted for the train horns......

[kathyspear]

We lived in Calumet Grove for a year before moving to our current house. (Moved to be closer to my sister, not because of the trains.) I actually liked hearing the trains at night. (Never noticed them during the day.) I found it soothing. Different strokes ...

kathy

[Mrprez]

A new friend of mine manages that train depot. I’ll put in a request for them to be quiet.

[asianthree]

Well OP as long as it’s all hours of the day, not restricted to just after the sun goes down:a040:

[Velvet]

Sound proof windows? But if you have a frame house it might not make much difference.

[tvbound]

Thats like buying next to the Airport and then complaining about the noise.


My first flight out of John Wayne Airport in SoCal about 30 years ago, was quite the experience. After feeling like we were going straight up at takeoff, all of a sudden the engines lost power. I would swear we were going to crash. It turned out though, that what was happening was because of a local noise ordinance. I've since become used to flying out of there - kind of.

Steep takeoffs land JWA on ‘scariest airports’ list – Orange County Register (https://www.ocregister.com/2012/07/20/steep-takeoffs-land-jwa-on-scariest-airports-list/)

You feel the nose lifting up, and up, and up. Air carriers leave John Wayne at an angle of between 20 and 25 degrees, according to several accounts. That’s about twice as steep as the departure from other airports, often around 10 to 15 degrees.

Shortly after takeoff, you might feel a sudden sinking sensation. The pilot has just cut engine power by up to 15 percent, from the full blast of takeoff to the steady drive of the climb.

[vintageogauge]

When they complete the industrial park in Coleman/Sumterville there will be a lot more trains coming in and out of the terminal so better get used to it.

[manaboutown]

Johnny Cash - "Orange Blossom Special" - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4-uoUpN1c4)

[manaboutown]

My first flight out of John Wayne Airport in SoCal about 30 years ago, was quite the experience. After feeling like we were going straight up at takeoff, all of a sudden the engines lost power. I would swear we were going to crash. It turned out though, that what was happening was because of a local noise ordinance. I've since become used to flying out of there - kind of.

Steep takeoffs land JWA on ‘scariest airports’ list – Orange County Register (https://www.ocregister.com/2012/07/20/steep-takeoffs-land-jwa-on-scariest-airports-list/)

You feel the nose lifting up, and up, and up. Air carriers leave John Wayne at an angle of between 20 and 25 degrees, according to several accounts. That’s about twice as steep as the departure from other airports, often around 10 to 15 degrees.

Shortly after takeoff, you might feel a sudden sinking sensation. The pilot has just cut engine power by up to 15 percent, from the full blast of takeoff to the steady drive of the climb.

I flew out of John Wayne at least twice a month for almost thirty years. The first time shook me up, too. They almost aways announced what would happen but forgot to do so every once in a while which freaked out some first timers taking off from SNA.

For a few years I owned a house under the flight path and had to put telephone conversations on hold when a plane was taking off overhead. Sold that house!

Although their flight paths are strictly controlled and pilots are supposed to get well out over the Pacific before they turn the plane some pilots cheat. People can call and complain. GA Noise Abatement | John Wayne Airport, Orange County (SNA), Located in Southern California - official website (https://www.ocair.com/generalaviation/noise)

[Topspinmo]

Thats like buying next to the Airport and then complaining about the noise.

Or rock quarry, rifle range, drag strip, or? I live 3 miles off tracks by way crow flies. Most of time I don’t notice them. On evenings with Southwest West breeze they are more loud.

[Carla B]

TOTV Talk Host, one of the originators of this forum, lived very close to the CSX track and complained mightily about the noise. He finally moved farther south in Florida.

[PugMom]

what>????

[EdFNJ]

After living 8 miles ATCF from a major international airport for 60+ years and directly in the flight path 80% of the time a train whistle would be most relaxing! It's so weird here with no low flying aircraft except for the occasional private plane.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Thats like buying next to the Airport and then complaining about the noise.

Or buying next to the Turnpike......

[Worldseries27]

:moje_whot:does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?
theres always ambien, rx medical marijuana
or some johnny walker blue.

[Pillowtalk]

You mean the trains that the salespeople should of told you about when you bout the property?

[DrBrutyle109]

Yes! MOVE! I’m pretty sure the railroad was there when you bought your house. Legal action? Surely you jest.

[DrBrutyle109]

If you looked at the house it’s YOUR responsibility to check everything out, not the seller. Geez, what’s wrong with people

[Bay Kid]

Love train sounds, but I wouldn't want to live by the track.

[gregcharlesnelson@gmail]

We live close to Mulberry..2 miles from the RR...purrrfect

[Rwirish]

Easy fix. Call the powers to be and they will have the horns stopped.

[dennismc]

Who in their right mind would bring up the issue of train horns? Thats what they do when they come to a crossing. How and when they blow is controlled by the government

[boilermaker7091]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

Ask yourself who was here first, you or the railroad. If it was you then you might have a viable complaint. However if it was the railroad then sit back and enjoy the sounds of the American economy working to bring the many things you enjoy.

[rjgnj321]

Seriously?????????? 😂🤣😂🤣

[retiredguy123]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?
The railroads have always had enormous power in our country. Probably too much power. I don't think any lawyer would want to challenge the railroads in court.

[banjobob]

I agree those pesky outside noises always interrupt my nap 🤣

[rhand48]

This interesting.

[MandoMan]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

As The Band sang around 1970 in their song “Where Do We Go From Here?”:

Did you hear about the railroad going under
How it seems its days are numbered on the board
And I feel sad about the railroad and it's no wonder
It would run right by my door
I can't hear it anymore
How can you get to sleep when the whistle don't moan?

How can you get to sleep when the whistle don’t blow?

[rhand48]

This is interesting.

The Train Horn Rule and Quiet Zones | FRA (https://railroads.dot.gov/highway-rail-crossing-and-trespasser-programs/train-horn-rulequiet-zones/train-horn-rule-and-quiet)

[asianthree]

You mean the trains that the salespeople should of told you about when you bout the property?

If you buy a house without due diligence, then either you should have your children or guardian, help you make decisions, instead of blaming it on a sales rep for your inability to invest your money wisely.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

Well while we are at it. Police cars, fire engines and ambulances should not use sirens when they are going to an emergency. Stop the horn blowing on trains. LOL some people are so funny. Really....Where do people come up with these ideas.

[davem4616]

My first flight out of John Wayne Airport in SoCal about 30 years ago, was quite the experience. After feeling like we were going straight up at takeoff, all of a sudden the engines lost power. I would swear we were going to crash. It turned out though, that what was happening was because of a local noise ordinance. I've since become used to flying out of there - kind of.

Steep takeoffs land JWA on ‘scariest airports’ list – Orange County Register (https://www.ocregister.com/2012/07/20/steep-takeoffs-land-jwa-on-scariest-airports-list/)

You feel the nose lifting up, and up, and up. Air carriers leave John Wayne at an angle of between 20 and 25 degrees, according to several accounts. That’s about twice as steep as the departure from other airports, often around 10 to 15 degrees.

Shortly after takeoff, you might feel a sudden sinking sensation. The pilot has just cut engine power by up to 15 percent, from the full blast of takeoff to the steady drive of the climb.


LOL...I had forgotten about that thrilling takeoff experience

[Girlcopper]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?
Train tracks were there before your house. Why did you buy there?

[George Page]

Complaints will Surely result in more and longer whistle blows..........just for spite

[huange@verizon.net]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?
Yeah, I moved into a house under the glide path at LAX. Couldn’t sue ‘em nor stop the flights. Decided to move to away. Think Florida was far enough?

[Rzepecki]

We lived in Calumet Grove for a year before moving to our current house. (Moved to be closer to my sister, not because of the trains.) I actually liked hearing the trains at night. (Never noticed them during the day.) I found it soothing. Different strokes ...

kathy

Ditto. I enjoy the train horns. I look forward to the cooler weather, opening the windows and hearing them more frequently. Very soothing sound.

[justjim]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

Legally you will be waisting your time and money trying to stop the trains from doing what they are required by law to do. That’s the bad news. Good news is over time you will get use to it. I grew up in a small town with a busy train track that literally divided our town of 4,900 in half. We lived four blocks away and we rarely paid attention to the trains except when we had to wait for 100 plus boxcars, coal cars and sometimes rail cars carrying brand new cars to pass through town. At one time I can remember a couple of passenger trains that rolled in from Chicago, but they were moved to a different track 20 miles east in the late 50’s. I understand Wildwood was quite a “train town” in the past but not near as much today. Noise can be a problem for some especially if you purchase a house near a busy train track, interstate, toll road or airport. Realtors don’t always disclose such noise unless you ask. During daylight hours living close to pickleball can be annoying too. Due diligence is a must when purchasing any property and occasionally even those with considerable experience will miss something. Fore.

[Brondrisek]

I live in Calumet Grove. Either I’m used to them or just can’t hear them. But there aren’t that many. Rare during the day and more frequent Saturday night.
I love the sound. Mournful yet, reminds me of traveling (back when we could).

[Sherrilee]

It’s for people’s safety— you would need to move. There are ambulances Sirens thru out the night on Morse....

[giorgio1948]

realized and researched b4 purchasing as you already know.

[Spalumbos62]

Wow...you guys are a tough crowd. I think he was just inquiring or looking for some possible research help. I doubt he really thought he could sue.

[ellenwelsh]

My late husband worked on the railroad and before I moved to The Villages we lived in a small town in Ohio. Whenever he was working on a train that came through our town he would sound the horn 10 shorts. It was dumbfounding for everybody there except for me and people who knew me.

[airstreamingypsy]

Does no one have a sense of humor anymore? clearly that was meant to be funny. Besides, I love laying in bed and hearing the train whistle off if the distance.... the post was tongue in cheek folks.

[DonnaNi4os]

I lived very close to a train station in NJ. No, there is nothing you can do to stop the warning horns. It’s a safety issue. The train was there before you were. Either adjust or move. Sorry I can’t be more encouraging other than to say that you will likely get used to it after a while.

[Tom M]

Okay, I'll throw in an actual possible solution. "Whistle-free zones" In my home town they have created whistle free zones. That required double-arm crossing bars that prevented someone from driving around them and even crossing arms to prevent pedestrians from crossing on the sidewalk. It was a bit of money for the equipment but the whistles stopped entirely.

Until you can get another solution, they won't be able to stop the whistles as they prevent needless accidents and deaths.

How to get the groundswell of support to do that? Don't know...

[billthecpa]

If I recall correctly, there is a sign at the RR crossing on Rt. 42...just east of 301....that says something like.....Danger: Train Horns Not Used. It is obvious that someone had the influence to silence the trains horns at that crossing. My guess is St. Mark Church which is nearby. There is no one else close by to whom it would really matter.

[J1ceasar]

Since the train has been here 100? years I fought the judge would side with you. plus the fact of safety , laws concerning trains , and the fact that you will get at least a $ 25,000 invoice from your lawyer , means MOVE if you don't like it.

[car1chr2]

Lived in Calumet. Got used to it.

[rrb48310]

I’m a retired locomotive engineer, posts here are correct, blowing the horn for road crossing in required by law (FRA like FAA). Very specific laws that require engineers how long to blow and where to start, that if not followed could result in punishment of time off without pay and fines. Then if hitting someone results in a fatality there is a “last chance” law that in short says, if the engineer didn’t do everything right he could be charged for manslaughter.

That being said I’ve operated through cities (at 79 mph) that had “whistle restrictions” where you only blew the horn in an emergency. The cities not the railroad put the whistle restrictions on and like someone posted, it’s expensive putting in the level of road crossing protection required. The community would have to foot the bill.

[Topspinmo]

Easy fix. Call the powers to be and they will have the horns stopped.


Or the tracks moved:MOJE_whot:

[cassjax2]

I’ve been in & out of John Wayne Airport several times but don’t remember about steep climbing.....
Probably because I hate takeoffs and landings because that’s where more things go wrong. 🤦🏻

[Curtisbwp]

Wow! The trains have been roiling on 301 for over a hundred years and now you want to sue them. I do not hear any trains. I, unlike many others, always do my homework. Before buying i survey the entire area, i review topical maps etc. I knew where the trains are, i know where the prison is and i know what i do not like. So i bought in a noise free place.

[Don5154]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

You just moved here a few months ago and already complaining about the train horns near the home you picked out......you did not do your home work! :bigbow:

[bilcon]

What happened, you didn't have a Lionel Train set when you were young? Required by law to blow whistle at crossing so they can wake the drunks who fall asleep on the tracks.

[Joanne19335]

:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

I happen to like that far-away train whistle. BTW, the law states that when a train approaches a cross street, it is required to use the whistle. Two long blasts, followed by two short ones and another long one.

[CWGUY]

If you buy a house without due diligence, then either you should have your children or guardian, help you make decisions, instead of blaming it on a sales rep for your inability to invest your money wisely.

:popcorn: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/update-train-my-back-yard-chatham-10399/?highlight=talkhost

[Eg_cruz]

Haha......really

[Velvet]

Not everybody is familiar with railway behavior, especially if they have never lived near the tracks before. It is possible to under estimate the noise from the whistle and how far it might carry if you have never heard one.

If the noise really bothers one so much, the best solution is to move to a quieter place.

[Dennys37Packard]

Now that’s funny......😀😀😀😀

[MaxCat]

I had to re-read and look through a few other replies to see if this was really a serious question. Sheeesh . . . train has been here a long time — well before TV — had plenty of time to do your due diligence before purchasing. Or there was the option to go ahead and buy and then be a perennial complainer — but sue the train operators? Seriously? Sheeez. Definition of curmudgeon.

[valuemkt]

Curious how many miles from the tracks you live

[SIRE1]

I believe I read here where someone who bought near the turnpike wanted The Villages to build a berm to block the noise. Sure hope they don't want us to build a berm from Ocala to Tampa to block the train noise !!!!!! :pray:

[BobnBev]

We lived in Calumet Grove for a year before moving to our current house. (Moved to be closer to my sister, not because of the trains.) I actually liked hearing the trains at night. (Never noticed them during the day.) I found it soothing. Different strokes ...

kathy

I'm with you all the way, I love the soothing sound late at night/early morning.

[PennBF]

This reminds me of an experience we had when we lived in NY. Our home was very very high on a cliff and if you sat on the balcony you could only see the river but far below there was also a railroad track that ran along the river. One day I was on our balcony and heard a lot of noise down the cliff and got in the car and drove down to see what was going on. There was a very long freight train stopped and the engineer yelling at the person and the police just arriving. It seem the person owned a small dock on the river and was claiming that he owned the road to it which crossed the the train tracks, therefore he owned the track and wanted to be paid a fee to let the train to pass. In the meantime the engineer was yelling he had to be in Chicago at a certain time and this was making him miss his schedule. The cops finally took the dock owner away, probably to the funny farm and the train proceeded. Don't know how this correlates to the post other than we live in a crazy world.:MOJE_whot:

[Lottoguy]

Let's trade homes. I live nextdoor to a 24/7 muffler shop.

[Garywt]

We were so happy to find trains near us when we bought. Love having trains nearby.