Spike in Villages COVID cases

[Northwoods]

There seems to be a recent spike in COVID cases. It appears there are approx. 100 new cases in 2 days in The Villages Sumter County. YIKES!!!
Does anyone plan to do anything differently based on these new numbers??

[Altavia]

Really?

[kaydee]

If some people don’t start doing something different those numbers are going to sky rocket.

[JimJohnson]

If we could at least restrict new cases to those that do not wear masks. I understand they have the right to believe as the see fit and it is their right to pass on.

[VApeople]

Does anyone plan to do anything differently based on these new numbers??

Nope.

We ain't caught the Chinese Virus yet so we are going to keep on doing just what we have been doing.

[jacksonbrown]

Easily explained.

Take a drive on any major roadway surrounding The Villages while paying attention to the "drive through, for profit, Covid testing" facilities.

The sheeple are in their cars, lined up to get the good(bad) news.

Unbelievable.

[biker1]

I agree with you. While there is a large day-to-day variance in the number of new cases in Sumter County, the trend for the last month appears to be flat. I don't see any evidence of a spike, at least not in Sumter County, and about 80% of Sumter County is The Villages. I also check the same dashboard website, that you posted, about every other day. I believe the number for yesterday was 18 new cases in Sumter County. Hardly a spike and pretty typical.

Really?

[Goldwingnut]

If you are reading information from that other website you are falling for their clickbait. Do a Google search for "Florida covid dashboard" and look at the website from arcgis.com. The data is broken down in great detail. Sumter county and the zip codes associated with The Villages are doing very well as compared to the rest of the state. Yes, there are positive cases, this has become just a fact of life these days, but one needs to look at things like the number of tests performed, positivity rate, death rate, etc. to get the entire picture. I'm not saying that there isn't a problem or concern with covid19 and that we all should not be being cautions and not take risks, it just not as bad as that other site wants to make it sound. Be cautions, take what precautions you feel you need for yourself, there is a risk and it is real, but the sky is not falling.

I studied journalism for 4 years and one of the topics we regularly discussed in every class was journalistic integrity (pretty much a non-existent concept these days), bias, sensationalism, and of course yellow journalism (Yellow journalism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)). This was 40 years ago and most of this discussion was referring to the supermarket tabloids of the day like the National Enquirer and the like. The tabloids have moved from the printed page.

Today of course, we have the internet, and everything is fair game, you can say what you want and twist facts or pseudo facts to reflect whatever opinion you want. In this case, if you "hate The Villages", "hate the developer", "hate Donald Trump", want to hear how anything can be turned negative against the afore mentioned, or are maybe just a bored and miserable person, that other site may be the one for you. If your a fan of that site, I'd also recommend the website Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info (http://www.dhmo.org) .

[kansasr]

From the same Florida COVID 19 dashboard daily reports:
The Villages, Sumter on 11/22: 942
The VIllages, Sumter on 11/23: 1,042
In the same reports, The Villages, Marion went from 9 to 59 and The Villages, Lake 51 to 59.
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[billethkid]

I t may just be the covid-19 weariness is contributing to a by default acceptance of the increasing rates.
Rates are up...deaths declining-not increasing....

We have remained conservatively careful for 9 months. We will continue to do so waiting for the vaccine.
We are hoping by next summer this will all be a bad memory!!

[xkeowner]

From the same Florida COVID 19 dashboard daily reports:
The Villages, Sumter on 11/22: 942
The VIllages, Sumter on 11/23: 1,042
In the same reports, The Villages, Marion went from 9 to 59 and The Villages, Lake 51 to 59.
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Your post is correct for the data posted on the state report PDF.

However, the daily report on the dashboard only identified 18 new cases on that day and 13 for the day before for ALL of Sumter County, so something is screwy about the data. I can only postulate that someone has been reviewing addresses of previously reported cases and added some of those to The Villages total. It will be interesting to see what the total is in today's report.

[YouNeverKnow]

There seems to be a recent spike in COVID cases. It appears there are approx. 100 new cases in 2 days in The Villages Sumter County. YIKES!!!
Does anyone plan to do anything differently based on these new numbers??
We can’t do anything different because we haven’t been doing anything for many months.
If more people did even a little something different (masks, avoiding crowds, distancing) maybe numbers would be better but I’m not sure we’ll ever know because so many are ignoring what the CDC and medical people are begging them to do right now. :pray:

[Advogado]

The county commissions of Sumter, Lake, and Marion counties need to enact mask mandates now! That really should be done at the state level, but Gov. DeSantis is actually obstructing common-sense anti-COVID-19 measures.

The good news is that vaccines are on the horizon. The bad news is that mass vaccinations are even further on the horizon, and people will be dying in large numbers until the great majority of people are vaccinated.

[Altavia]

Sumter continues to have among the lowest infection rates in the country. Even more so considering more than 30% of the cases occured in local prisions. People here so far are doing a good job overall.

[kansasr]

Your post is correct for the data posted on the state report PDF.

However, the daily report on the dashboard only identified 18 new cases on that day and 13 for the day before for ALL of Sumter County, so something is screwy about the data. I can only postulate that someone has been reviewing addresses of previously reported cases and added some of those to The Villages total. It will be interesting to see what the total is in today's report.

Today's report: Villages/Sumter +17, Villages/Marion +2

[Topspinmo]

If you are reading information from that other website you are falling for their clickbait. Do a Google search for "Florida covid dashboard" and look at the website from arcgis.com. The data is broken down in great detail. Sumter county and the zip codes associated with The Villages are doing very well as compared to the rest of the state. Yes, there are positive cases, this has become just a fact of life these days, but one needs to look at things like the number of tests performed, positivity rate, death rate, etc. to get the entire picture. I'm not saying that there isn't a problem or concern with covid19 and that we all should not be being cautions and not take risks, it just not as bad as that other site wants to make it sound. Be cautions, take what precautions you feel you need for yourself, there is a risk and it is real, but the sky is not falling.

I studied journalism for 4 years and one of the topics we regularly discussed in every class was journalistic integrity (pretty much a non-existent concept these days), bias, sensationalism, and of course yellow journalism (Yellow journalism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)). This was 40 years ago and most of this discussion was referring to the supermarket tabloids of the day like the National Enquirer and the like. The tabloids have moved from the printed page.

Today of course, we have the internet, and everything is fair game, you can say what you want and twist facts or pseudo facts to reflect whatever opinion you want. In this case, if you "hate The Villages", "hate the developer", "hate Donald Trump", want to hear how anything can be turned negative against the afore mentioned, or are maybe just a bored and miserable person, that other site may be the one for you. If your a fan of that site, I'd also recommend the website Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info (http://www.dhmo.org) .


Agree, they also keep running old stand by opinions to get more click baits.

[kcrazorbackfan]

There seems to be a recent spike in COVID cases. It appears there are approx. 100 new cases in 2 days in The Villages Sumter County. YIKES!!!
Does anyone plan to do anything differently based on these new numbers??

Seriously? With the attitude of certain people here in TV, you think they're going to do anything different? They won't do something SIMPLE like wear a mask!

[Swoop]

The county commissions of Sumter, Lake, and Marion counties need to enact mask mandates now! That really should be done at the state level, but Gov. DeSantis is actually obstructing common-sense anti-COVID-19 measures.

The good news is that vaccines are on the horizon. The bad news is that mass vaccinations are even further on the horizon, and people will be dying in large numbers until the great majority of people are vaccinated.
Like that has worked so in states where mask mandates have been in effect. Look at the numbers. The mask mandate states are spiking at a higher rate than non mandate states. I know that doesn’t fit your agenda, but those are the facts...

[EdFNJ]

And in December we have the wide opened to anyone within many miles of here CRUISE-IN at Spanish Springs that (usually) brings in multitudes of people packed in from ALL OVER the central FL area (NOT just mainly locals). I believe things are relatively good here because we are in a pretty much contained bubble but when the bubble bursts and them thar outsiders come a'piling in that can be problematic. They didn't have a CRUISE-IN for all the months things were generally good in FL but as soon as it starts going down hill they do this. THAT I can't understand. And the expected "if you don't feel safe don't go" replies have nothing to do with all the people from outside the bubble bringing in all their crap.

[jswirs]

I would rather be dead than being just one more sheeple.

[matandch]

Sadly Few people are taking this seriously anymore. Things will get much worse. We’re Doomed!

[NormaKW]

I think I will stop eating in restaurants for awhile. Pick ups only.

[camaguey48]

If some people don’t start doing something different those numbers are going to sky rocket.
Different? Like locking yourself up and not coming out. That kind of different? Life is short so enjoy your next breath as someone else is taking their last

[pvetrano1]

Doomed, really !!!

[DrBrutyle109]

OMG! Let’s all stay home and cower in our houses. That’s why I worked for 50 years, to succumb to something that nobody really knows the truth about. Believe what you want and stay home!

[dboyd29]

What’s the survival rate of COVID?

[Silliness]

Let's face it. People's opinions and habits are pretty much baked in at this point. Either you believe and follow the scientific recommendations or you don't.

To me, one superspreader can infect a lot of people here. I follow the recommendations, but I know there is no guarantee.

[Bay Kid]

It is flu season. Always be careful this time of year. Sorry but hard to believe any news or govern reports. They all have their agenda.

[ts12755]

Snow birds bringing disease down. And no. Obese and sick people should stay in. I see people on oxygen out eating.

[dhdallas]

There seems to be a recent spike in COVID cases. It appears there are approx. 100 new cases in 2 days in The Villages Sumter County. YIKES!!!
Does anyone plan to do anything differently based on these new numbers??

No I don't. I haven't worn a mask or followed a guideline since this whole fiasco created by the media & so called experts began. I am in my late 60's and have been exposed to known persons with active COVID (as in sleeping next to my infected wife), never wore a mask, and never developed any symptoms.

COVID is only serious for a very small percentage of individuals with preexisting conditions in which the coronavirus is the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back.

Stop paying any attention to the news! "Misinformation is just as dangerous as the disease is right now," says Erie News Now Contributor, Dr. Becky Dawson. "I think we are spreading misinformation as quickly as we are spreading the disease."

[bd20166]

we have herd immunity

[Spalumbos62]

Everyone is so negative about the drive thru testing..but guess what..you wanna come into fl,or especially fly out you aren't getting on that plane without the test that has negative results... which takes 3 days. So no available appointments on monday...loved one will not be home for Thanksgiving. ☹

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

From the Florida Covid Dashboard, yesterday.

New Cases Nov 24: Lake County-57, Marion County-136, Sumter County-33

Only a small portion of The Villages lies in Lake County and it includes the cities of Leesburg and Tavares. The same can be said for Marion county which include Ocala. Most of The Villages lies in Sumter County and the Federal Prison is also in Sumter County.

I would assume that the majority of these cases are in the largest cities and the prison. I would also think that only a small number of those 226 cases were in The Villages.

I have a friend whose wife tested positive. He also got test and was positive. They went back a few days later to be retested and were both negative. Were their positive results counted as new cases?

[lkagele]

The county commissions of Sumter, Lake, and Marion counties need to enact mask mandates now! That really should be done at the state level, but Gov. DeSantis is actually obstructing common-sense anti-COVID-19 measures.

The good news is that vaccines are on the horizon. The bad news is that mass vaccinations are even further on the horizon, and people will be dying in large numbers until the great majority of people are vaccinated.

Thank you Chicken Little. If you don't like the way this State is being run then leave. As a result of these idiotic mandates more people are dying from suicide and drug overdose. Many people have been economically destroyed because of the shut downs. And after all of their genius plans and draconian rules, the virus is still spreading.

I for one appreciate living in a State where there is no government nanny telling me what I can or can't do. Open up the States and using their common sense and personal risk tolerance, let the people decide what risk they want to take.

[kendi]

If we could at least restrict new cases to those that do not wear masks. I understand they have the right to believe as the see fit and it is their right to pass on.

🤔. That comment sure doesn’t jive with the statement in your profile pic. Might want to make a change one way or the other.

[ruralgoddess]

If we could at least restrict new cases to those that do not wear masks. I understand they have the right to believe as the see fit and it is their right to pass on.
you're saying that they have the "right" to pass the disease on to me? You can go ahead and reap that benefit .... covid is real... why should someone infect me because they are selfish? I am not a fool...I'm cautious.

[ruralgoddess]

no, you do not...not till 70% of a population has been infected

[PugMom]

If you are reading information from that other website you are falling for their clickbait. Do a Google search for "Florida covid dashboard" and look at the website from arcgis.com. The data is broken down in great detail. Sumter county and the zip codes associated with The Villages are doing very well as compared to the rest of the state. Yes, there are positive cases, this has become just a fact of life these days, but one needs to look at things like the number of tests performed, positivity rate, death rate, etc. to get the entire picture. I'm not saying that there isn't a problem or concern with covid19 and that we all should not be being cautions and not take risks, it just not as bad as that other site wants to make it sound. Be cautions, take what precautions you feel you need for yourself, there is a risk and it is real, but the sky is not falling.

I studied journalism for 4 years and one of the topics we regularly discussed in every class was journalistic integrity (pretty much a non-existent concept these days), bias, sensationalism, and of course yellow journalism (Yellow journalism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)). This was 40 years ago and most of this discussion was referring to the supermarket tabloids of the day like the National Enquirer and the like. The tabloids have moved from the printed page.

Today of course, we have the internet, and everything is fair game, you can say what you want and twist facts or pseudo facts to reflect whatever opinion you want. In this case, if you "hate The Villages", "hate the developer", "hate Donald Trump", want to hear how anything can be turned negative against the afore mentioned, or are maybe just a bored and miserable person, that other site may be the one for you. If your a fan of that site, I'd also recommend the website Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info (http://www.dhmo.org) .

:ho::clap2::clap2:

[Byte1]

The county commissions of Sumter, Lake, and Marion counties need to enact mask mandates now! That really should be done at the state level, but Gov. DeSantis is actually obstructing common-sense anti-COVID-19 measures.

The good news is that vaccines are on the horizon. The bad news is that mass vaccinations are even further on the horizon, and people will be dying in large numbers until the great majority of people are vaccinated.

Totally wrong. A mask mandate will not change the numbers. Almost every infected has stated that they wear a mask. Whether or not it helps is not the question, because it may protect some. It does not keep folks from becoming infected in all cases. It is nothing more than coughing into your shirt sleeve. If you think that the mask is the shield to keep you from catching the virus then you are sure to become infected by your carelessness. The ONLY way to avoid the virus is to stay away from it, period. Either stay in your home or distance yourself from EVERYONE, including family. The mask will hinder the virus but not stop it. You may get lucky and the mask will happen to stop enough of it to make you safe that one time that you are around someone that is infected (which is very slim chance encounter anyway). It's just common sense. If some doctors say that nothing but certified N95 masks work, and that anything else causes more of a chance of being infected, then why take a chance that one doctor is smarter than another. Just avoid the virus by staying away from everyone until the vaccine is available. A loose mask is reported to cause an air vortex that works like a vacuum cleaner by sucking in a force of air that can be contaminated. A loose mask causes one to constantly manipulate it with one's hands, which IF contaminated can attach the virus to the face. Same as constantly touching your face with your hands. See how that works. Whether you chose to believe that or not, if you are really serious about avoiding infection, then just isolate yourself from any chance of contact with the virus.....stay away from people.
Personally, I plan to have Thanksgiving with a member of my family and a family friend as well as my spouse. The chances of one of them being infected is low enough that I have no problem taking a chance. I plan to enjoy my life regardless of how the gov feels about it. I refuse to allow the gov to mandate my life regarding this when they won't hold themselves equally responsible.

NO TO ANY MANDATE, so get over it. For those that NEED the gov nanny, do yourself a favor and check yourself into a "care" facility. Do not think you can mandate/control how other folks wish to live their lives, just because you are hysterical.

[Byte1]

Sadly Few people are taking this seriously anymore. Things will get much worse. We’re Doomed!

The sky is falling! The End is near! :pray:

[Gulfcoast]

Why would anyone wanting to live in a nanny state move to Florida of all places? Boggles the mind. Have you not heard - This is the land of Florida Man

[PugMom]

From the Florida Covid Dashboard, yesterday.

New Cases Nov 24: Lake County-57, Marion County-136, Sumter County-33

Only a small portion of The Villages lies in Lake County and it includes the cities of Leesburg and Tavares. The same can be said for Marion county which include Ocala. Most of The Villages lies in Sumter County and the Federal Prison is also in Sumter County.

I would assume that the majority of these cases are in the largest cities and the prison. I would also think that only a small number of those 226 cases were in The Villages.

I have a friend whose wife tested positive. He also got test and was positive. They went back a few days later to be retested and were both negative. Were their positive results counted as new cases?

this is why we see different numbers & reports, which leads to different attitudes in residents absorbing the info. it's getting tougher & tougher to find any truth in reports, & the poster who wrote about yellow journalism hit it out of the park. people killed in auto crashes have covid on their death certificates. ???

[Justus]

If we could at least restrict new cases to those that do not wear masks. I understand they have the right to believe as the see fit and it is their right to pass on.

The recently released Danish study clearly says Masks are ineffective. Beyond that, the Great Barrington Declaration, despite MSM efforts to deny it, shows Covid as largely a hoax. Give it a rest!

[PugMom]

yes, Gulfcoast--it's why we fled the northeast --it was Florida or bust

[Pairadocs]

If some people don’t start doing something different those numbers are going to sky rocket.

Any ideas on what more we can do ? People are eating outdoors, most clubs are not meeting or doing "zoom" meetings, lots of walking and biking on my neighborhood, everyone is FAR from others, I've yet to see a golf foursome that was not FOUR different carts (except a few couples of course), shopped in Publix, Winn Dixie, and Adi's and have yet to see any individuals without masks (which I have substantial doubts about as "protection" but I certainly comply, and from what I see daily so do most people).

[Kim Fowler]

From the Florida Covid Dashboard, yesterday.

New Cases Nov 24: Lake County-57, Marion County-136, Sumter County-33

Only a small portion of The Villages lies in Lake County and it includes the cities of Leesburg and Tavares. The same can be said for Marion county which include Ocala. Most of The Villages lies in Sumter County and the Federal Prison is also in Sumter County.

I would assume that the majority of these cases are in the largest cities and the prison. I would also think that only a small number of those 226 cases were in The Villages.

I have a friend whose wife tested positive. He also got test and was positive. They went back a few days later to be retested and were both negative. Were their positive results counted as new cases?

In addition to the countywide new cases on the dashboard, the daily “state report” on the FLDH COVID website, just below the dashboard, lists total cases to date in cities within each county. It doesn’t break out new cases each day like the county dashboard does, so you have to compare the prior and current day reports to figure the new day’s cases in each community.

Comparing Monday’s and Tuesday’s reports, page 9 of the state reports show that 17 of yesterday’s 33 Sumter cases were within The Villages. One in Marion County was in TV, and none in Lake. I write down the three TV numbers each day to make the day-to-day comparisons, or use TV-News article numbers.

The recent 157-case jump in TV exceeded the counties’ new cases those two days, so I’m assuming there was a “test data dump” from a lab in TV. There was a huge statewide data dump several months ago from one lab that spiked the total FL numbers by several thousand cases one day.

[Pairadocs]

There seems to be a recent spike in COVID cases. It appears there are approx. 100 new cases in 2 days in The Villages Sumter County. YIKES!!!
Does anyone plan to do anything differently based on these new numbers??

No really ! Not sure what more there is to do ? I can't make myself disinfect my mail and spray all groceries with Lysol because my formal education is not medical, but, my college level science lab experiences tell me this is NOT the way this is spread, but, I don't know any more than the rest, including our so called "disease experts". Other than those things, and wearing gloves as well as a mask all the time... I don't know what else I personally can do, and most people seem to take what precautions they can ! Should we STOP swimming ? How can it spread in chlorinated water ? Who knows ? Now in L.A. you can't eat indoors OR outdoors ! Yet, doubt that will do any good, someday we "may" find out how this really spreads, all guessing. Like the black death of the middle ages.... thought to ONLY come on the evening breezes and the solution was to stuff openings under the door at night only so it could not enter. Sort of like restaurants and bars closing at 8 p.m. since the virus can only infect people after 8 p.m., or only infect people at a table 5 feet away, but a table 6 feet is safe ? I think one day people will read about all this and laugh when they find out the REAL was it is spread ! ?

[Pairadocs]

Thank you Chicken Little. If you don't like the way this State is being run then leave. As a result of these idiotic mandates more people are dying from suicide and drug overdose. Many people have been economically destroyed because of the shut downs. And after all of their genius plans and draconian rules, the virus is still spreading.

I for one appreciate living in a State where there is no government nanny telling me what I can or can't do. Open up the States and using their common sense and personal risk tolerance, let the people decide what risk they want to take.

"Chicken Little is right" ! Just what we need, more of the chicken little types, what in the world has this virus done to the MINDS of other wise sane people ! Of course we should always be aware of our precious liberty and our fragile constitution of our unique democratic republic being chipped away a word at a time.... THAT is the real threat here, China and other rival nations could even be aware of that ? There's a thought ?

[Pairadocs]

If you are reading information from that other website you are falling for their clickbait. Do a Google search for "Florida covid dashboard" and look at the website from arcgis.com. The data is broken down in great detail. Sumter county and the zip codes associated with The Villages are doing very well as compared to the rest of the state. Yes, there are positive cases, this has become just a fact of life these days, but one needs to look at things like the number of tests performed, positivity rate, death rate, etc. to get the entire picture. I'm not saying that there isn't a problem or concern with covid19 and that we all should not be being cautions and not take risks, it just not as bad as that other site wants to make it sound. Be cautions, take what precautions you feel you need for yourself, there is a risk and it is real, but the sky is not falling.

I studied journalism for 4 years and one of the topics we regularly discussed in every class was journalistic integrity (pretty much a non-existent concept these days), bias, sensationalism, and of course yellow journalism (Yellow journalism - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)). This was 40 years ago and most of this discussion was referring to the supermarket tabloids of the day like the National Enquirer and the like. The tabloids have moved from the printed page.

Today of course, we have the internet, and everything is fair game, you can say what you want and twist facts or pseudo facts to reflect whatever opinion you want. In this case, if you "hate The Villages", "hate the developer", "hate Donald Trump", want to hear how anything can be turned negative against the afore mentioned, or are maybe just a bored and miserable person, that other site may be the one for you. If your a fan of that site, I'd also recommend the website Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info (http://www.dhmo.org) .

Ah, there is hope, someone who actually does the research, tells the truth (especially about the profound changes in journalism and schools of journalism at many universities), and still has the ability to read past the "click bait" headlines... I do the same ! Old research and analysis skills don't just magically disappear, along with brain cells, at retirement ! Nice to read intelligent posts from time to time.

[Koapaka]

At our age, and with the unknowns of this (I believe) biological warfare that has been released on the world by China.....I would much rather DIE living than to live dying. It is NOT the number of days you remain, but those that count and make your time here special while on this big, blue marble that are important.

[jimjamuser]

If we could at least restrict new cases to those that do not wear masks. I understand they have the right to believe as the see fit and it is their right to pass on.
Man's inhumanity to man.........will continue unabated in TV Land for the near future. Nationwide, the mortality rate per positive cases is between 1.5 and 2 %. It would take people in TV Land to be falling dead like the "leaves in the trees" before the stubborn TV Landers would lower their "individual freedom" standards. We have been the victims of a great CON-JOB and the propaganda of non-compliance with Medical Health standards for mask-wearing and staying away from people. We are potentially TOAST. And the "white horse of vaccine" riding in to save everyone has not yet even been saddled up! Live long and prosper - the US stock market apparently liked someone and some (?) magic bullet yesterday.

[jimjamuser]

I t may just be the covid-19 weariness is contributing to a by default acceptance of the increasing rates.
Rates are up...deaths declining-not increasing....

We have remained conservatively careful for 9 months. We will continue to do so waiting for the vaccine.
We are hoping by next summer this will all be a bad memory!!
Deaths nationwide are approaching 2% of positive cases. I believe that is an increase. TV Land has somehow (?) avoided this increase. Considering the older demographics - it is impressive - I hope it holds!

[graciegirl]

I was interested to see if the gathering last month for the president would increase the cases. It doesn't appear to have done so. There have been seven deaths from Covid in Sumter County since that event.

I am quarantining until I receive the vaccine like many, many people. I choose science over any kind of public advice in a situation like this. I wish that the chief executive would have listened to ME. ;)

Anyway. Here are today's figures. I think it was 85 deaths when Mr. Trump came here to The Villages.

Sumter County cases
Updated Nov 25 at 11:44 AM local
Confirmed
3,341
+33 new cases.
Deaths
92

How long have YOU all heard is the incubation period. I think it is five to fourteen days?

[jimjamuser]

we have herd immunity
Not possible without a vaccine for EVERYONE! Sweden gave up on this concept months ago. Why does it stay in the US vernacular ?????

[jimjamuser]

Thank you Chicken Little. If you don't like the way this State is being run then leave. As a result of these idiotic mandates more people are dying from suicide and drug overdose. Many people have been economically destroyed because of the shut downs. And after all of their genius plans and draconian rules, the virus is still spreading.

I for one appreciate living in a State where there is no government nanny telling me what I can or can't do. Open up the States and using their common sense and personal risk tolerance, let the people decide what risk they want to take.
Advice and attitudes similar have lead to the US being about 5% of the world's population, but having 19% of the deaths. North Dakota having one of the highest mortality rates in the world. We have bought into a CON-JOB!

[Altavia]

I was interested to see if the gathering last month for the president would increase the cases. It doesn't appear to have done so. There have been seven deaths from Covid in Sumter County since that event.

I am quarantining until I receive the vaccine like many, many people. I choose science over any kind of public advice in a situation like this. I wish that the chief executive would have listened to ME. ;)

Anyway. Here are today's figures. I think it was 85 deaths when Mr. Trump came here to The Villages.

Sumter County cases
Updated Nov 25 at 11:44 AM local
Confirmed
3,341
+33 new cases.
Deaths
92

How long have YOU all heard is the incubation period. I think it is five to fourteen days?

Good observation. And we have seen no spike as other outside activities have resumed.

The likelyhood of getting infected outdoors is very low. Fresh air and the wind rapidly dilutes the virus to low levels.

The general guideline is it take at least 15 min exposure at some minimum viral innoculum level.

This is why the highest risk is interior spaces with recirculating air allowing the virus to build to continuously infectious levels. And why it spiked when cold air drove people inside.

We're lucky being able to be outside and keep our windows open.

[Velvet]

Not possible without a vaccine for EVERYONE! Sweden gave up on this concept months ago. Why does it stay in the US vernacular ?????

The doctors in Sweden are fed up. They are not being listened to. I wouldn’t be surprised if they go on strike and tell the government decision makers: “You go ahead and take care of the Covid patients yourselves.”

[John41]

No really ! Not sure what more there is to do ? I can't make myself disinfect my mail and spray all groceries with Lysol because my formal education is not medical, but, my college level science lab experiences tell me this is NOT the way this is spread, but, I don't know any more than the rest, including our so called "disease experts". Other than those things, and wearing gloves as well as a mask all the time... I don't know what else I personally can do, and most people seem to take what precautions they can ! Should we STOP swimming ? How can it spread in chlorinated water ? Who knows ? Now in L.A. you can't eat indoors OR outdoors ! Yet, doubt that will do any good, someday we "may" find out how this really spreads, all guessing. Like the black death of the middle ages.... thought to ONLY come on the evening breezes and the solution was to stuff openings under the door at night only so it could not enter. Sort of like restaurants and bars closing at 8 p.m. since the virus can only infect people after 8 p.m., or only infect people at a table 5 feet away, but a table 6 feet is safe ? I think one day people will read about all this and laugh when they find out the REAL was it is spread ! ?

reminds me of the Woody Allen movie where medical experts finally find out greasy cheeseburgers are good for you.

[jimjamuser]

The recently released Danish study clearly says Masks are ineffective. Beyond that, the Great Barrington Declaration, despite MSM efforts to deny it, shows Covid as largely a hoax. Give it a rest!
If COVID is a hoax, then something else must be killing all those people in North Dakota. And also, ALL the hospitals in the country must be LYING about their OVERWHELMED problems. It must take a HUGE CONSPIRACY to fake all those hospital reports. Not to mention ALL the patients that I see with hoses in their throats. They must ALL be actors. And ALL those nurses crying and complaining that I SEE on my TV. Am I hallucinating?????

[donassaid]

Really? 84% of those who have tested positive wore a mask most of the time if not all the time. I'll take my chances being part of the 16% who are not breathing in their own carbon dioxide and destroying their own immune system. But keep on drinking the koolaid and wearing your mask everywhere. That is certainly your option. Just quit referring to those of us with common sense who don't wear one as ignorant and selfish.

[mneumann02]

The recently released Danish study clearly says Masks are ineffective. Beyond that, the Great Barrington Declaration, despite MSM efforts to deny it, shows Covid as largely a hoax. Give it a rest!

You are so right. Covid is a hoax. The world is flat. The holocaust did not happen. Aliens have abducted you. And Elvis is alive and living in the basement of the White House. Since Covid is a hoax, may I suggest all the deniers volunteer at hospitals with Covid patients. You won't have to wear masks..

[graciegirl]

Not possible without a vaccine for EVERYONE! Sweden gave up on this concept months ago. Why does it stay in the US vernacular ?????

Dr. Fauci seems to think that we could achieve "herd immunity" with 70% of the population vaccinated.

Also read this today on Reuters;

"The World Health Organization has referred to a 65-70% vaccine coverage in order to achieve herd immunity, Reuters reported."

[Mrprez]

Healthcare workers are masked up, gowned up and gloved up. Please explain the numbers in this article:

Over 90,000 health workers infected with COVID-19 worldwide: nurses group | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-nurses-idUSKBN22I1XH)

[Swoop]

Healthcare workers are masked up, gowned up and gloved up. Please explain the numbers in this article:

Over 90,000 health workers infected with COVID-19 worldwide: nurses group | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-nurses-idUSKBN22I1XH)

And they use N95 masks, not the crap that most people are wearing. Masks do not stop the virus.

[Velvet]

The conservative estimate is there are over 59,000,000 health workers in the world and 90,000 would make it about 1,525 per million. According to Worldometer number of Covid cases is 7,748 per million. So maybe PPE helps?

[Mrprez]

The conservative estimate is there are over 59,000,000 health workers in the world and 90,000 would make it about 1,525 per million. According to Worldometer number of Covid cases is 7,748 per million. So maybe PPE helps?
I guess. Didn’t help those 90,000.

[Swoop]

The conservative estimate is there are over 59,000,000 health workers in the world and 90,000 would make it about 1,525 per million. According to Worldometer number of Covid cases is 7,748 per million. So maybe PPE helps?
Actually your numbers are off: “The 90,000 estimate is based on information collected on 30 countries from national nursing associations, government figures and media reports. The ICN represents 130 national associations and more than 20 million registered nurses.”
That works out to roughly 4,090 per million... With the N95 masks...

[donfey]

From the same Florida COVID 19 dashboard daily reports:
The Villages, Sumter on 11/22: 942
The VIllages, Sumter on 11/23: 1,042
In the same reports, The Villages, Marion went from 9 to 59 and The Villages, Lake 51 to 59.
87068

Most of TV is in Sumter County. The numbers given are meaningless. Cases per 1000 population would tell a much different story.

[Velvet]

Don’t know what 30 different countries use as PPEs, but in New York the studies indicate that:

“New York City and its surrounding metro area have emerged as an epicenter of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) outbreak worldwide. A recent population survey1 for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) antibodies among those in New York state shows a prevalence of 21.2% in New York City and 16.7% in Long Island. Across the US, up to 11% of reported COVID-19 cases were found to be in health care professionals....” JAMA intern med Aug 11, 2020

To me, Velvet, that seems to say that health care workers who work directly 12 to 16 hours a day with Covid patients have 1/2 the infection rate that we, walking around in our common everyday lives do.

[donfey]

Today's report: Villages/Sumter +17, Villages/Marion +2

The numbers are meaningless withought context, as in cases per 1000 population.

[donfey]

There seems to be a recent spike in COVID cases. It appears there are approx. 100 new cases in 2 days in The Villages Sumter County. YIKES!!!
Does anyone plan to do anything differently based on these new numbers??

More tests yield "more cases." If, God forbid, there is mass testing of intelligence, the number of idiots will increase, too.

Sorry - but it's just statistics...

[coffeebean]

No I don't. I haven't worn a mask or followed a guideline since this whole fiasco created by the media & so called experts began. I am in my late 60's and have been exposed to known persons with active COVID (as in sleeping next to my infected wife), never wore a mask, and never developed any symptoms.

COVID is only serious for a very small percentage of individuals with preexisting conditions in which the coronavirus is the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back.

Stop paying any attention to the news! "Misinformation is just as dangerous as the disease is right now," says Erie News Now Contributor, Dr. Becky Dawson. "I think we are spreading misinformation as quickly as we are spreading the disease."

Seriously? Sleeping next to your infected wife? My eyes are bleeding just reading those words. You are part of the problem we have here in America. You very well may have been an asymptomatic carrier of the virus and who knows how many people you may have passed the virus to.

Just one question......did you quarantine yourself the the required amount of time when you knew you were in close contact with an infected individual?

[coffeebean]

Thank you Chicken Little. If you don't like the way this State is being run then leave. As a result of these idiotic mandates more people are dying from suicide and drug overdose. Many people have been economically destroyed because of the shut downs. And after all of their genius plans and draconian rules, the virus is still spreading.

I for one appreciate living in a State where there is no government nanny telling me what I can or can't do. Open up the States and using their common sense and personal risk tolerance, let the people decide what risk they want to take.

Just wondering how these modern day folks would have fared during WWII with all the sacrifices the American people made for their country.

[coffeebean]

Thank you Chicken Little. If you don't like the way this State is being run then leave. As a result of these idiotic mandates more people are dying from suicide and drug overdose. Many people have been economically destroyed because of the shut downs. And after all of their genius plans and draconian rules, the virus is still spreading.

I for one appreciate living in a State where there is no government nanny telling me what I can or can't do. Open up the States and using their common sense and personal risk tolerance, let the people decide what risk they want to take.
The measures needed to slow the spread of the virus have nothing to do with an individual's personal risk. The risk is not only to the individual but to everyone around the individual. Society is at risk when one person decides not to follow CDC guidelines. The economy is at risk when an individual refuses to abide by guidelines. Those folks must realize it is not all about them and their individual rights. It is about what is best for the community on a local level and the country on a broader scale.

Take a look at what is happening in large cities in our country. Is it sinking in yet? Hospital beds are being set up in remote locations to extend bed capacity. This is no joke. That is happening in our United States. There is a big picture to all of this......not you individual risk is at stake here.

[Swoop]

The doctors in Sweden are fed up. They are not being listened to. I wouldn’t be surprised if they go on strike and tell the government decision makers: “You go ahead and take care of the Covid patients yourselves.”

Have you actually looked at the number of Covid deaths in Sweden?

[Velvet]

Have you actually looked at the number of Covid deaths in Sweden?

10 to 20 times the death of the neighbors... from a completely preventable disease. If that was death from guns would we be putting those responsible in jail?

[Swoop]

10 to 20 times the death of the neighbors... from a completely preventable disease. If that was death from guns would we be putting those responsible in jail?
The death ratio to population from Covid in Sweden is .00064 and their curve has remained relatively flat after their initial outbreak.
“Completely preventable “ - really...

[Velvet]

Yes, “completely preventable” is how health authorities describe Covid. There is no excuse for allowing these deaths to happen, if that was your mother, your brother, your child, would it matter to you what the national percentage is as you walk behind their casket?

[Swoop]

Yes, “completely preventable” is how health authorities describe Covid. There is no excuse for allowing these deaths to happen, if that was your mother, your brother, your child, would it matter to you what the national percentage is as you walk behind their casket?
“Health authorities”? Really?!?
Who?

[Velvet]

You are right about the death rate it is less than before in Sweden but there is a lag and the Covid cases are higher than ever. I hope that the deaths will not follow. Covid has also long term effects; brain fog etc.

As far as completely preventable goes beside hearing it on news channels, it is also self evident. Study the virus. If one takes the right precautions, one doesn’t get it. That is why it was said that China did not contain it. They built a “wall” to protect themselves but not the world. The problem is that now the virus has spread to such an extent that one has to take drastic measures to stop getting Covid.

I hope you do not feel helpless about Covid, may you be safe.

[Swoop]

You are right about the death rate it is less than before in Sweden but there is a lag and the Covid cases are higher than ever. I hope that the deaths will not follow. Covid has also long term effects; brain fog etc.

As far as completely preventable goes beside hearing it on news channels, it is also self evident. Study the virus. If one takes the right precautions, one doesn’t get it. That is why it was said that China did not contain it. They built a “wall” to protect themselves but not the world. The problem is that now the virus has spread to such an extent that one has to take drastic measures to stop getting Covid.

I hope you do not feel helpless about Covid, may you be safe.

I don’t know of anyone reputable in the scientific or medical community that believes that this virus is “completely preventable”.

[Byte1]

First off, it is the liberals that keep suggesting that anyone that does not agree with them is saying that the virus is a "hoax." No one is really saying that, other than one poster that was probably being sarcastic.
To the one that asked how long should the quarantine be, it appears that the length of quarantine has been decreased to about 10 days. Probably because they can't get folks to agree to two weeks quarantine.
For those that keep saying how the medical professionals are wearing masks and are safe, why don't you REALLY take a look at them. They are supplementing their masks with full face shields, washing constantly and wearing disposable over garments. If you wish to emulate them, go for it. No one is stopping you from taking whatever precautions you wish. Don't try to mandate that on me, because I don't care what you do.

[Mfrench]

No. I don’t trust the stats after so many (59) medical establishments were caught lying to make more money from Medicare.

[patfla06]

If we could at least restrict new cases to those that do not wear masks. I understand they have the right to believe as the see fit and it is their right to pass on.

Living during a pandemic I would have to argue that point.

Just wear the darn mask. :ohdear:

[EdFNJ]

I would rather be dead than being just one more sheeple. You could have your wish. Please volunteer to take my next door neighbor's place?. He resides in Lady Lake Cemetery. Body is probably still in decent condition as it's only been ~2 months. I can look up the plot number if you are serious. I'm sure he won't care what physical shape you are in as long as you are still breathing but his wife and kids might be a bit more selective on that.

[Pairadocs]

If some people don’t start doing something different those numbers are going to sky rocket.

LOL ! Have you listened to the "experts" lately ? They don't have a clue as to what else we can be doing ! Just look at the mask wearing IN the Villages, and yet, screaming headlines that it's spreading like wild fire here..... or so the headlines say...

[tophcfa]

You could have your wish. Please volunteer to take my next door neighbor's place?. He resides in Lady Lake Cemetery. Body is probably still in decent condition as it's only been ~2 months. I can look up the plot number if you are serious. I'm sure he won't care what physical shape you are in as long as you are still breathing but his wife and kids might be a bit more selective on that.

We lost our next door neighbor in the Villages to Covid last July as well. She was a wonderful woman and a great neighbor. Some people simply refuse to accept reality, until it runs them over.

[Pairadocs]

You could have your wish. Please volunteer to take my next door neighbor's place?. He resides in Lady Lake Cemetery. Body is probably still in decent condition as it's only been ~2 months. I can look up the plot number if you are serious. I'm sure he won't care what physical shape you are in as long as you are still breathing but his wife and kids might be a bit more selective on that.

Is there no end to the rude, nasty, smug, and self serving posts on here ? Good grief people, does writing such things anonymously do something for some people ? What, exactly, to they get out of it psychologically ? A kind of one's "upsmanship" and yet, everyone losses including those who post these kinds of (what they think are "cute", mature, intelligent, remarks ?) things.

[EdFNJ]

Is there no end to the rude, nasty, smug, and self serving posts on here ? Good grief people, does writing such things anonymously do something for some people ? What, exactly, to they get out of it psychologically ? A kind of one's "upsmanship" and yet, everyone losses including those who post these kinds of (what they think are "cute", mature, intelligent, remarks ?) things. Yea, then there's those who profess to know everything who hide behind an anonymous post. I gave the guy a chance to have his wish. The post you are whining about that I quoted said "I [he]would rather be dead than being just one more sheeple" Well, there are lot's of people pushing up daisies who would trade places with him for just the opportunity for a do-over on this virus. I stand by what I wrote. If you feel it's being smug and rude, then I'll accept that compliment because it was meant to be. Don't agree with nasty though.

[Velvet]

I think if I had lost a loved one or a good friend I’m not sure I would disagree with EdFNJ. It sounds hard but those people who say they’d rather be dead... have no idea really that they may actually die, a very painful death from Covid and leave those who value them in great grief.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Let's hope that if and when you do get the virus, the hospitals will have a bed for you and all of the healthcare workers who are working 16-18 hour shifts haven't burned themselves out to the point of quitting. I wonder if the scientists said that you could lower your blood pressure 10 points by wearing a mask, you would do it. The same scientists developed blood pressure medicine that keep many people healthy. What's the difference?

[Carla B]

I think if I had lost a loved one or a good friend I’m not sure I would disagree with EdFNJ. It sounds hard but those people who say they’d rather be dead... have no idea really that they may actually die, a very painful death from Covid and leave those who value them in great grief.

Yeah, those who are flippant and not taking precautions probably say to themselves, "If it comes to the Bubble, and if by chance I should happen to get it, and if by chance it kills me, well at least I lived my way."

Well, it is here in the Bubble, it is on my street and I bet the ones who have it wish they could have avoided it.

[Bill14564]

Yeah, those who are flippant and not taking precautions probably say to themselves, "If it comes to the Bubble, and if by chance I should happen to get it, and if by chance it kills me, well at least I lived my way."

Well, it is here in the Bubble, it is on my street and I bet the ones who have it wish they could have avoided it.

Probably they wish they could have avoided it. Possibly they have mild symptoms and are just annoyed at the inconvenience.

*I'll" bet that if they are some of "those who are flippant" then they wish they could have avoided it but still feel good about the choices they made for themselves.

[Bucco]

My fear is , and has always been, and remains ever stronger, is our country's complete lack of a National plan or a citizenary that cannot discus reality any more.

We are on the edge of a collapse of our healthcare system (see national guard called in Texas for morgue duty). Even on here, we discuss every other country except ours as if we had no problem.

We needed a National plan, not political discussions, and now the lid is opened. Our healthcare system is in great danger of total collapse.

[graciegirl]

My fear is , and has always been, and remains ever stronger, is our country's complete lack of a National plan or a citizenary that cannot discus reality any more.

We are on the edge of a collapse of our healthcare system (see national guard called in Texas for morgue duty). Even on here, we discuss every other country except ours as if we had no problem.

We needed a National plan, not political discussions, and now the lid is opened. Our healthcare system is in great danger of total collapse.

It seems that no matter the directive, or from whom, people will take risks with their life during the pandemic. It was the same during the Ebola danger.

I am heartened by the fact that there are now some means to medically address the pneumonia that affects people differently than ever before and that is saving lives.

I also see the real possibility of two highly effective vaccines arriving soon for the most at risk.

I also know that many will choose not to be immunized.

[Bucco]

It seems that no matter the directive, or from whom, people will take risks with their life during the pandemic. It was the same during the Ebola danger.

I am heartened by the fact that there are now some means to medically address the pneumonia that affects people differently than ever before and that is saving lives.

I also see the real possibility of two highly effective vaccines arriving soon for the most at risk.

I also know that many will choose not to be immunized.

Ebola is not easily transmittable. Infected people don’t spread the virus until they start showing symptoms, and even then the virus is hard to catch because it is spread through direct contact with the bodily fluid of an infected person, like blood, sweat, and urine, rather than through the kind of particles produced when someone sneezes or speaks. Unless you’re nursing patients (either at home or in a hospital setting) or tending to their body after they’ve died, it’s unlikely you’d acquire the infection.

This Corona has strained our healthcare system so much more because of its method of transmission, and ease of transmission.

We seem to want to discuss death rates, economy, etc. if our healthcare system simply folds under the stress, we will quickly learn economic stress. Folks are acting like this is done, because so many are not severely ill, but again.....our healthcare system is just about at the max.

But, reality seems to have faded in our country.

[Bill14564]

My fear is , and has always been, and remains ever stronger, is our country's complete lack of a National plan or a citizenary that cannot discus reality any more.

We are on the edge of a collapse of our healthcare system (see national guard called in Texas for morgue duty). Even on here, we discuss every other country except ours as if we had no problem.

We needed a National plan, not political discussions, and now the lid is opened. Our healthcare system is in great danger of total collapse.

Perhaps the difficulty in discussing reality is a collective inability to agree on reality. I do not believe "our healthcare system is in great danger of total collapse." That is an extremely unlikely possibility. We can't begin to discuss reality until we are all willing to accept reality.

[graciegirl]

Ebola is not easily transmittable. Infected people don’t spread the virus until they start showing symptoms, and even then the virus is hard to catch because it is spread through direct contact with the bodily fluid of an infected person, like blood, sweat, and urine, rather than through the kind of particles produced when someone sneezes or speaks. Unless you’re nursing patients (either at home or in a hospital setting) or tending to their body after they’ve died, it’s unlikely you’d acquire the infection.

This Corona has strained our healthcare system so much more because of its method of transmission, and ease of transmission.

We seem to want to discuss death rates, economy, etc. if our healthcare system simply folds under the stress, we will quickly learn economic stress. Folks are acting like this is done, because so many are not severely ill, but again.....our healthcare system is just about at the max.

But, reality seems to have faded in our country.

The economic impact is another story. I believe that your last post was a criticism of how the pandemic was handled politically.

You changed the subject.

I personally think that the majority of Americans, no matter their politics, are aware of the severity of the Pandemic. Polls indicate that about 70 % of the U.S. population consider the pandemic as the biggest problem facing us today.

The economic fallout will hurt us to be sure and not a lot can mitigate it. The sooner the vaccine arrives the easier on the economic impact, but much damage has already been done that could not have been avoided by any means.

[Byte1]

You are right about the death rate it is less than before in Sweden but there is a lag and the Covid cases are higher than ever. I hope that the deaths will not follow. Covid has also long term effects; brain fog etc.

As far as completely preventable goes beside hearing it on news channels, it is also self evident. Study the virus. If one takes the right precautions, one doesn’t get it. That is why it was said that China did not contain it. They built a “wall” to protect themselves but not the world. The problem is that now the virus has spread to such an extent that one has to take drastic measures to stop getting Covid.

I hope you do not feel helpless about Covid, may you be safe.

Seniors getting "brain fog" from the virus? How would you tell........:1rotfl::1rotfl:
Please! There is NO consistency to the reporting of side effects related to infection.

[Bucco]

The economic impact is another story. I believe that your last post was a criticism of how the pandemic was handled politically.

You changed the subject.

I personally think that the majority of Americans, no matter their politics, are aware of the severity of the Pandemic. Polls indicate that about 70 % of the U.S. population consider the pandemic as the biggest problem facing us today.

The economic fallout will hurt us to be sure and not a lot can mitigate it. The sooner the vaccine arrives the easier on the economic impact, but much damage has already been done that could not have been avoided by any means.

I did not change the subject.

And, while this pandemic would be horrible under any circumstance, we blew any chance of minimizing its impact on so many aspects of our life.

Understanding the hidden costs of COVID-19’s potential impact on US healthcare | McKinsey (https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/healthcare-systems-and-services/our-insights/understanding-the-hidden-costs-of-covid-19s-potential-impact-on-us-healthcare)

But, just another opinion, worth nothing, so have at it. It is just discouraging watching lives shortened, whether by death or restriction. if you wish to disagree, it is your right. Putting words in my post that are not there is not fair.

[Byte1]

For those that "know" a "neighbor" that passed from the virus, I'll one up you by telling you that I know two of my neighbors in their '80s that had it in Feb, one of them hospitalized. Both survived.
To those that think that the simple, home made mask is the magic shield that will protect them I also have another helpful tip. I was told by my cousin's wife's co-worker that has it on good authority from her hair stylist that wearing a copper bracelet will ward off the Covid spirit and protect the wearer from infection. It will also prevent injury resulting from a car accident. I am now wearing my copper lined gloves that I was given for arthritis in my hands. Since I know it works for my hands, it must work as good as my homemade mask made out of a handkerchief or sock. I am predicting a run on copper bracelets, so you better hurry to get your own.

Makes one wonder if the Chinese are enjoying their victory when you see some on here promoting martial law, after complaining about political tyranny for the past few years. The Chinese are surely impressed with the success they are having with those hysterical contributors on blogs and in the media spreading mass hysteria. Hmmm, could some bloggers be working with the Chinese to spread dissension or is this just another random thought that comes to one when we have too much time on our hands, and TV fiction blasting away via the Hollyweird controlled media? Who knows?
On the bright side, we had a nice reduced attendance Thanksgiving celebration with family and friends. Sure hope that the turkey wasn't infected, OR the fowl and ham we consumed either.....:1rotfl:

[dewilson58]

I was told by my cousin's wife's co-worker that has it on good authority from her hair stylist that wearing a copper bracelet will ward off the Covid spirit and protect the wearer from infection. It will also prevent injury resulting from a car accident. I am now wearing my copper lined gloves that I was given for arthritis in my hands.


Nicely played.

[EdFNJ]

///removed because it just ain't worth it ......

[Bucco]

It seems that no matter the directive, or from whom, people will take risks with their life during the pandemic. It was the same during the Ebola danger.

I am heartened by the fact that there are now some means to medically address the pneumonia that affects people differently than ever before and that is saving lives.

I also see the real possibility of two highly effective vaccines arriving soon for the most at risk.

I also know that many will choose not to be immunized.

Let me try this another way....our healthcare system is severely strained NOW

“Hospitals around the country are running out of beds in their intensive care units due to the uptick in COVID-19 cases.”

Hospital ICUs running out of space due to COVID-19 surges across the country - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/Health/hospital-icus-running-space-due-covid-19-surges/story?id=74169792)


“Tulsa Has Run Out Of ICU Beds And El Paso Is Out Of Morgue Space—Here’s The Latest Grim Toll Of Covid”


Tulsa Has Run Out Of ICU Beds And El Paso Is Out Of Morgue Space—Here’s The Latest Grim Toll Of Covid (https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/11/10/tulsa-has-run-out-of-icu-beds-and-el-paso-is-out-of-morgue-space-heres-the-latest-grim-toll-of-covid/?sh=181e23921331)

As COVID-19 surges in Illinois, when will hospitals run out of beds? - Chicago Tribune (https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-hospital-overflow-projections-illinois-20201124-wwy7kcruvbdexk7whezhgdy5p4-htmlstory.html)

Arizona's hospital beds are filling up as COVID-19 cases again spike | Local news | tucson.com (https://tucson.com/news/local/arizonas-hospital-beds-are-filling-up-as-covid-19-cases-again-spike/article_33ebf298-bb0b-56a8-a068-d7e5126d67d7.html)

US hits record-high coronavirus hospitalizations, data shows

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My point was until you decided to misinterpret the thought.....our healthcare system might collapse, and if you think the economy tanked earlier..hang on.

[Bill14564]

Let me try this another way....our healthcare system is severely strained NOW

“Hospitals around the country are running out of beds in their intensive care units due to the uptick in COVID-19 cases.”

Hospital ICUs running out of space due to COVID-19 surges across the country - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/Health/hospital-icus-running-space-due-covid-19-surges/story?id=74169792)


“Tulsa Has Run Out Of ICU Beds And El Paso Is Out Of Morgue Space—Here’s The Latest Grim Toll Of Covid”


Tulsa Has Run Out Of ICU Beds And El Paso Is Out Of Morgue Space—Here’s The Latest Grim Toll Of Covid (https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/11/10/tulsa-has-run-out-of-icu-beds-and-el-paso-is-out-of-morgue-space-heres-the-latest-grim-toll-of-covid/?sh=181e23921331)

As COVID-19 surges in Illinois, when will hospitals run out of beds? - Chicago Tribune (https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-hospital-overflow-projections-illinois-20201124-wwy7kcruvbdexk7whezhgdy5p4-htmlstory.html)

Arizona's hospital beds are filling up as COVID-19 cases again spike | Local news | tucson.com (https://tucson.com/news/local/arizonas-hospital-beds-are-filling-up-as-covid-19-cases-again-spike/article_33ebf298-bb0b-56a8-a068-d7e5126d67d7.html)

US hits record-high coronavirus hospitalizations, data shows

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My point was until you decided to misinterpret the thought.....our healthcare system might collapse, and if you think the economy tanked earlier..hang on.

Some interesting data here: Estimated ICU Utilization (https://healthdata.gov/dataset/covid-19-estimated-patient-impact-and-hospital-capacity-state)

Some takeaways:
1. ICU utilization nationwide was 70% on 10/24 and grew to 73% on 11/23
2. There are six States showing a utilization above 85% as of 11/23
3. There are 19 States with a utilization below 70% as of 11/23
4. These estimates are at the State and National level; ICU utilization in individual cities or hospitals may be above or below these levels

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I'll keep wearing my "THANKS for DISTANCING" visor and hope people are not too blind to see it. So many people end up coming within 2 feet of my face to be able to read it. D"OH!!!