Missing Frank [Archive] - Talk of The Villages Florida

Dana1963

11-25-2020, 11:43 AM

...an unmitigated, and woefully underappreciated genius. Check out this biopic.

Zappa - Official Trailer - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4F0rT0F6OQ)
I have all his albums converted to mp3. Either you love him on hate his music. I don’t think you’ll ever hear his music performed at the squares. My favorite Apostrophe.

LiverpoolWalrus

11-26-2020, 11:59 AM

I have all his albums converted to mp3. Either you love him on hate his music. I don’t think you’ll ever hear his music performed at the squares. My favorite Apostrophe.

Thanks Dana. This is another thing I like about the Villages. At first glance you might think we all only appreciate the likes of Neil Diamond, the Carpenters and the Eagles (not that there's anything wrong with them), but you'll find a lot of us have a discerning taste in music and regularly drop names of less mainstream and more, um, "challenging" performers.

In any case, the bottom line is music seems to be of utmost importance to so many Villagers, and that's what makes me feel at home here.

Dana1963

11-26-2020, 12:52 PM

Thanks Dana. This is another thing I like about the Villages. At first glance you might think we all only appreciate the likes of Neil Diamond, the Carpenters and the Eagles (not that there's anything wrong with them), but you'll find a lot of us have a discerning taste in music and regularly drop names of less mainstream and more, um, "challenging" performers.

In any case, the bottom line is music seems to be of utmost importance to so many Villagers, and that's what makes me feel at home here.
I have a diverse taste in music anything as long as it isn’t elevator or bubblegum music and don’t appreciate rap at all. Currently I’m listening to a lot of Leonard Cohen.

LiverpoolWalrus

11-26-2020, 07:47 PM

I have a diverse taste in music anything as long as it isn’t elevator or bubblegum music and don’t appreciate rap at all. Currently I’m listening to a lot of Leonard Cohen.

Check out his masterpiece Songs of Love and Hate if you haven’t already.

John_W

11-26-2020, 09:08 PM

I saw Frank Zappa at the Civic Center in Atlanta '85 Them or Us tour. Whipping Post was their encore. He didn't play any guitar, he just lead with a baton. It was good, didn't have anything but purple light, I couldn't hardly see them. I saw REM the same year and were the same, just a purple light but had a bicycle illuminated on a screen behind them to give a little light. Especially when someone spun the wheels of the bike. They were really good, I always like Murmur.

cypress

11-26-2020, 10:09 PM

I saw him perform at Saratoga Performing Arts Center in 1984. I'm sure he was a genius of some sort.

MandoMan

11-27-2020, 09:21 AM

I have all his albums converted to mp3. Either you love him on hate his music. I don’t think you’ll ever hear his music performed at the squares. My favorite Apostrophe.

It WOULD be fun to hear “Brown Shoes Don’t Make It” or “Call Any Vegetable” or “Suzy Creamcheese” at some village square. I only saw Zappa in concert once, around 1975. The band was well-rehearsed and very attentive to Frank’s conducting. However, it wasn’t what I was expecting.

charlieo1126@gmail.com

11-27-2020, 11:36 AM

When I first looked at this thread I thought you were talking about the only musician who we would all recognize as Frank and that would be Sinatra , who could actually sing and by the way I’m not a fanatic golden oldies guy I love a lot of new music , but when using the word Frank and music together there is only one FRANK

OrangeBlossomBaby

11-27-2020, 02:29 PM

I am a moron, and this is my wife.
She's frosting her cake with a paper knife.
All that we've got here is American Made
it's a little bit cheesy but it's nicely displayed.

Well we don't get excited when it crumbles and breaks
we just get on the phone can call up some flakes.
They rush on over and wreck it some more
and we are so dumb they're lining up at our door.

Favorite multi-media performer ever.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr

11-28-2020, 09:28 AM

There's a fine line between genius and idiot and Frank Zappa was right on it. He may have been a genius but his music was garbage.

LiverpoolWalrus

11-28-2020, 12:02 PM

It WOULD be fun to hear “Brown Shoes Don’t Make It” or “Call Any Vegetable” or “Suzy Creamcheese” at some village square.

Just last week I heard Blonde Ambition doing Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch in its entirety at Brownwood.

LiverpoolWalrus

11-28-2020, 12:07 PM

I thought you were talking about the only musician who we would all recognize as Frank and that would be Sinatra...when using the word Frank and music together there is only one FRANK

Correct, and that is Frank Zappa.

The Times They Are A-Changin' (Bob Dylan Tribute) - Bruce Springsteen - 1997 Kennedy Center Honors - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa0fOE-x84k)

LiverpoolWalrus

11-28-2020, 12:26 PM

There's a fine line between genius and idiot and Frank Zappa was right on it. He may have been a genius but his music was garbage.

Well at least we agree on the Beatles!

Only someone who hasn't heard much Zappa would say his music was garbage. One could say the same thing about the Beatles if only hearing You Know My Name, Yellow Submarine, The Inner Light, I Dig a Pony and Revolution 9.

Check this out. Its beauty still makes me misty eyed. Frank Zappa "- Watermelon In Easter Hay -" 1988 [Full HD] - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWBYjjzKvIw)

IndianaJones

11-28-2020, 02:50 PM

LiverpoolWalrus

11-28-2020, 07:43 PM

Maybe we could write a new verse to "Valley Girl" and call it "Village Girl"?

Like, OH MY GOD! (Village Girl)
Like - TOTALLY (Village Girl)
Brownwood is like SO AWESOME (Village Girl)
There's like the City Fire (Village Girl)
And like all these like really great shoe stores
I love going into like clothing stores and stuff
I like buy the neatest make-up and stuff
It s like so AWESOME cuz like everybody's like
Super-super nice
It's like so COOL, like Lake Sumter, COOL...

On second thought, maybe it won't require much of a change - anyway, love Frank. A musical genius, for sure.

Thanks for the laugh, Indiana. Thankfully Village People don't talk like that. Sorry, but I always hated that song. As Peter Gabriel once said, "I make some crappy songs because those are the ones the masses will like and then hopefully they'll listen to my good stuff." Valley Girl was it for FZ (also to give Moon Unit some publicity) as Bang on the Drum did it for Todd Rundgren.

Frank did write a song about the Villages, though, believe it or not, and here's Dweezil and company doing it for us...Dweezil Zappa- Village of the Sun//St. Charles, IL 9.24.19 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygowm2W_tkM)

OrangeBlossomBaby

11-28-2020, 08:24 PM

There's a fine line between genius and idiot and Frank Zappa was right on it. He may have been a genius but his music was garbage.

It's an acquired taste. Frank Zappa is musical Dada. If you don't like Dada art, you won't like Zappa. If you like Dada art, and you don't like Zappa, you probably don't know what Dada art is :)

LiverpoolWalrus

11-28-2020, 08:34 PM

It's an acquired taste. Frank Zappa is musical Dada. If you don't like Dada art, you won't like Zappa. If you like Dada art, and you don't like Zappa, you probably don't know what Dada art is :)

I’m not sure I agree with that reductionist view of FZ, but it’s a clever analogy. One thing you couldn’t do with Frank was pigeonhole him.

OrangeBlossomBaby

11-28-2020, 08:55 PM

I’m not sure I agree with that reductionist view of FZ, but it’s a clever analogy. One thing you couldn’t do with Frank was pigeonhole him.

I always thought of Zappa as the manifestation of musical Dadaism. Sort of like saying, you couldn't pigeonhole Frank, because he would take the pigeon, and the hole, and twist it around and turn it into a Dune Buggy, and then play the Dune Buggy like a banjo.

(in my head that just made SO much sense)

charlieo1126@gmail.com

11-29-2020, 10:42 AM

I understand you try to hook up something with Zappa but it doesn’t work except if dada sometimes brings out the horror of wars I guess you could link it to how horrible Zappa’s music is

OrangeBlossomBaby

11-29-2020, 11:33 AM

I understand you try to hook up something with Zappa but it doesn’t work except if dada sometimes brings out the horror of wars I guess you could link it to how horrible Zappa’s music is

You know, I'm not a fan of country music. In fact you can say I can't stand it. It makes me cringe whenever I heard it, it makes me want to go somewhere else (and sometimes I do).

But I am not going to say country music is horrible. It's just a genre I can't stand. I'm sure it's awesome, to people who like it. But I won't insult those people by insisting that they are fans of horrible music.

You might want to reconsider the delivery of your opinion. Because right now you're insulting almost every single person posting on this page.

Paddygirl

11-29-2020, 11:51 AM

It WOULD be fun to hear “Brown Shoes Don’t Make It” or “Call Any Vegetable” or “Suzy Creamcheese” at some village square. I only saw Zappa in concert once, around 1975. The band was well-rehearsed and very attentive to Frank’s conducting. However, it wasn’t what I was expecting.

Why is it so difficult for "varied, successful musicians" to get gigs playing in The Villages? I have played music most of my life with well known bands and I cannot get the powers that be to return my calls or e-mails. Hell, I can't even find out who to contact.
Very frustrating.

charlieo1126@gmail.com

11-30-2020, 10:29 AM

You know, I'm not a fan of country music. In fact you can say I can't stand it. It makes me cringe whenever I heard it, it makes me want to go somewhere else (and sometimes I do).

But I am not going to say country music is horrible. It's just a genre I can't stand. I'm sure it's awesome, to people who like it. But I won't insult those people by insisting that they are fans of horrible music.

You might want to reconsider the delivery of your opinion. Because right now you're insulting almost every single person posting on this page. like DADA I’m exposing the hidden horrors that we chose not to see like Zappa

charlieo1126@gmail.com

11-30-2020, 04:41 PM

You know, I'm not a fan of country music. In fact you can say I can't stand it. It makes me cringe whenever I heard it, it makes me want to go somewhere else (and sometimes I do).

But I am not going to say country music is horrible. It's just a genre I can't stand. I'm sure it's awesome, to people who like it. But I won't insult those people by insisting that they are fans of horrible music.

You might want to reconsider the delivery of your opinion. Because right now you're insulting almost every single person posting on this page. doesn’t reflect on a person one way or another and having the mind set that I’m insulting strangers and making them feel bad , WELL REALLY ???? I’m completely at a loss for words

John_W

11-30-2020, 04:56 PM

Why is it so difficult for "varied, successful musicians" to get gigs playing in The Villages? I have played music most of my life with well known bands and I cannot get the powers that be to return my calls or e-mails. Hell, I can't even find out who to contact.
Very frustrating.

Did you follow through on the suggestion I made on your other post, about asking Petrina if she had advice? She had a huge following and still does, but it's at the clubs. I had heard 3 or 4 years ago, about the time I quit seeing Petrina at the squares, that TV was going to stop booking "a band in the box" artist. They do advertise live entertainment at the square everyday, and some people complained about going and hearing recorded music. The only exception has been Scooter the DJ, mainly because he has a following as big as the top bands. Here's a Scooter crowd at BW, do you think you could draw a crowd like this? The whole deal with entertainment at the squares is to draw big crowds for the restaurants and stores.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pVBEscZlHqM/maxresdefault.jpg