Developer under criminal investigation for possible elections fraud

[Advogado]

As a result of the use of "fake" candidates to disenfranchise voters in last August's Republican primary, the Developer (along with the "fake" candidates and the incumbents whom the "fake" candidates were helping) are under criminal investigation by the FDLE for possible elections fraud. Not a word about it in the Daily Sun. For details, see today's on-line newspaper.

[Joe V.]

As a result of the use of "fake" candidates to disenfranchise voters in last August's Republican primary, the Developer (along with the "fake" candidates and the incumbents whom the "fake" candidates were helping) are under criminal investigation by the FDLE for possible elections fraud. Not a word about it in the Daily Sun. For details, see today's on-line newspaper.

"The Developer" is exactly who? Is it one person or a group of people? Precisely who is being investigated? Election fraud? Anyone who was legally on the ballot, and they all were, are not "fake" candidates. Why do people choose to stay here when they obviously hate it here? That "on-line" newspaper is a site filed with nothing but TV haters. My virus software does not allow me to view that site anymore. It is dangerous to people with an IQ above 130.

[Advogado]

"The Developer" is exactly who? Is it one person or a group of people? Precisely who is being investigated? Election fraud? Anyone who was legally on the ballot, and they all were, are not "fake" candidates. Why do people choose to stay here when they obviously hate it here? That "on-line" newspaper is a site filed with nothing but TV haters. My virus software does not allow me to view that site anymore. It is dangerous to people with an IQ above 130.
Read the article, and all your questions will be answered.

[Joe V.]

Read the article, and all your questions will be answered.

I told you my virus software prevents anyone with an IQ over 130 access to that site. It destroys brain cells.

[Marathon Man]

Three candidates switched parties to run in a primary of the party that is not their choice to belong to.
Many voters switched parties to vote for those candidates who switched parties.
Two persons filed as candidates in that party in an attempt to throw a wrench in the plans of the three candidates.

It all seems underhanded and sneaky to me. However, all within the law as far as I can tell. So it will be interesting to see if any investigation comes up with anything.

[New Englander]

Three candidates switched parties to run in a primary of the party that is not their choice to belong to.
Many voters switched parties to vote for those candidates who switched parties.
Two persons filed as candidates in that party in an attempt to throw a wrench in the plans of the three candidates.

It all seems underhanded and sneaky to me. However, all within the law as far as I can tell. So it will be interesting to see if any investigation comes up with anything.

I agree. Very underhanded and sneaky.

[vintageogauge]

It's only an investigation. If someone files a complaint they investigate. Not like someone didn't pick up their dog's poop.

[Joe V.]

Three candidates switched parties to run in a primary of the party that is not their choice to belong to.
Many voters switched parties to vote for those candidates who switched parties.
Two persons filed as candidates in that party in an attempt to throw a wrench in the plans of the three candidates.

It all seems underhanded and sneaky to me. However, all within the law as far as I can tell. So it will be interesting to see if any investigation comes up with anything.

Underhanded or not it was legal under FL law. Any investigation may lead to a law change but there will be no crime proven.

[eyc234]

As a result of the use of "fake" candidates to disenfranchise voters in last August's Republican primary, the Developer (along with the "fake" candidates and the incumbents whom the "fake" candidates were helping) are under criminal investigation by the FDLE for possible elections fraud. Not a word about it in the Daily Sun. For details, see today's on-line newspaper.

Read the article and reread but could not find where it said, "the Developer", was part of the investigation. Where in the article does it specifically state "the Developer" is part of the investigation. Just looking for truth and facts.

[Topspinmo]

As a result of the use of "fake" candidates to disenfranchise voters in last August's Republican primary, the Developer (along with the "fake" candidates and the incumbents whom the "fake" candidates were helping) are under criminal investigation by the FDLE for possible elections fraud. Not a word about it in the Daily Sun. For details, see today's on-line newspaper.

That not going nowhere. Next.

[Dana1963]

Read the article and reread but could not find where it said, "the Developer", was part of the investigation. Where in the article does it specifically state "the Developer" is part of the investigation. Just looking for truth and facts.
The election fraud complaint lists a total of five persons or entities “against whom fraud is brought:”
Peter Wahl
Jerry Prince
Don Burgess
Steve Printz
The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc (and related companies and individuals). What can’t you figure out.

[Stu from NYC]

Read the article and reread but could not find where it said, "the Developer", was part of the investigation. Where in the article does it specifically state "the Developer" is part of the investigation. Just looking for truth and facts.

Perhaps they will decide the developer was the puppeteers?

[John41]

As a result of the use of "fake" candidates to disenfranchise voters in last August's Republican primary, the Developer (along with the "fake" candidates and the incumbents whom the "fake" candidates were helping) are under criminal investigation by the FDLE for possible elections fraud. Not a word about it in the Daily Sun. For details, see today's on-line newspaper.

Not their first brush with the law. Some years ago they were fined for shooting endangered animals. Should have gone to jail.
This is a serious charge, election fraud, which it was. Time to get their comeuppance and show they are not above the law.

[justjim]

Don't be so generous. I'd say anyone with an IQ over 90......

It also practices blatant censorship against conservatives. If you've got the stomach, read the comments on any of the political letters to the editor. 90% from left wing radicals. I was banned for disagreeing with them Never been back. Pathetic.

So we all know the philosophy of the so called Happy Paper. The unmentionable site has several perspectives on the same subject. I read both and then make up my own mind about the issues. I’ve probably lost a brain cell or two over the years but I think it might be other factors and it has nothing to do with reading other people’s thoughts or perspectives. :popcorn:

[Marathon Man]

Not their first brush with the law. Some years ago they were fined for shooting endangered animals. Should have gone to jail.
This is a serious charge, election fraud, which it was. Time to get their comeuppance and show they are not above the law.

It's an accusation, not a charge.

[graciegirl]

Not their first brush with the law. Some years ago they were fined for shooting endangered animals. Should have gone to jail.
This is a serious charge, election fraud, which it was. Time to get their comeuppance and show they are not above the law.

That is not what happened. They were NOT fined for shooting endangered animals. They felled an animal on their land in the Western state they use for hunting and did not use it for food or dispose of it. Someone reported it.

Nothing came of it.

[graciegirl]

As a result of the use of "fake" candidates to disenfranchise voters in last August's Republican primary, the Developer (along with the "fake" candidates and the incumbents whom the "fake" candidates were helping) are under criminal investigation by the FDLE for possible elections fraud. Not a word about it in the Daily Sun. For details, see today's on-line newspaper.

Advogado. Are you involved with running the POA?

[Advogado]

Advogado. Are you involved with running the POA?
No.

[John41]

That is not what happened. They were NOT fined for shooting endangered animals. They felled an animal on their land in the Western state they use for hunting and did not use it for food or dispose of it. Someone reported it.

Nothing came of it.

ACTUAL FELONIES CHARGED
Morse and his wife, their daughter and five others are accused of 18 wildlife violations during hunting excursions during the past four years on Morse property in Montana. The charges include the illegal killing or possession of elk, deer and other wildlife.
One ranch manager told investigators he was revolted by Rainey's refusal to track what was clearly a mortally wounded elk and kill it so the animal would not suffer. The manager, Toby Griffith, also got into a "tense and heated" dispute with Rainey, part owner of the Wolf Mountain Ranch with Morse, over Rainey shooting several elk in one day.

[JoMar]

I suspect that some will take their hatred of the Morse Family to their grave.

[Mrprez]

I suspect that some will take their hatred of the Morse Family to their grave.

I’m going to setup and monetize ihatethemorses.com

[John41]

I suspect that some will take their hatred of the Morse Family to their grave.

Yes I hate cruelty to animals.

remembering the outpouring of Villagers who defeated the puppet commissioners I think you are in the small minority that believes the rich don’t follow the rules of the little people

so sad some lack empathy

[John41]

I’m going to setup and monetize ihatethemorses.com

better ikissuptothemorses.com

the term is syncophant

[Topspinmo]

Yes I hate cruelty to animals.

remembering the outpouring of Villagers who defeated the puppet commissioners I think you are in the small minority that believes the rich don’t follow the rules of the little people

so sad some lack empathy

I agree, no reason to kill animals for sport especially if you’re not starving or have no choice. I would have to be starving before I would shoot deer 🦌.

[tophcfa]

They got connections and friends in very high places, the investigation will result in nothing. More importantly, perhaps this will be a wake up call that once you start prioritizing maximizing profits over your clients best interests, the clients will start to demand reasonable checks and balances over ultimate control of things. Time will tell? Stay tuned!

[jblum315]

I believe they were fined for not having proper licenses, and also for shooting anikmals and leaving their corpses to rot

[MandoMan]

Read the article and reread but could not find where it said, "the Developer", was part of the investigation. Where in the article does it specifically state "the Developer" is part of the investigation. Just looking for truth and facts.

I don’t remember it saying “The Developer,” either. My understanding is that the alleged purpose was not to disenfranchise voters but to make it so only Republicans could vote in a Republican primary for those specific offices, instead of letting Democrats and Independents also vote for them IN THE PRIMARY because the incumbents were running unopposed. I don’t think the men in question actually changed parties. I may be confused, but wasn’t one of them the President of the Republican Club at the time? I think there had to be Republican opposition in the primary in order to say that it was actually a Republican primary, and so closed to those not registered as Republicans. All registered voters of every party got to vote in the general election.

[Mrprez]

better ikissuptothemorses.com

the term is syncophant

I have no feelings one way or the other about the Morses. I like what they have created and therefore chose to live here. If I got to the point where I disliked them for whatever reason, I would leave. Why don’t you do the same?

[txfan]

I suspect that some will take their hatred of the Morse Family to their grave.

Same with the lovers, also, it would seem!

[Bill14564]

I don’t remember it saying “The Developer,” either. My understanding is that the alleged purpose was not to disenfranchise voters but to make it so only Republicans could vote in a Republican primary for those specific offices, instead of letting Democrats and Independents also vote for them IN THE PRIMARY because the incumbents were running unopposed. I don’t think the men in question actually changed parties. I may be confused, but wasn’t one of them the President of the Republican Club at the time? I think there had to be Republican opposition in the primary in order to say that it was actually a Republican primary, and so closed to those not registered as Republicans. All registered voters of every party got to vote in the general election.

The primary was always the Republican primary. The incumbents were not running unopposed, there were Republicans running against them in the Republican primary.

When there were no other parties running in the general election (no Democrats and no Independents) then the Republican primary would ultimately be choosing the winner and so all voters could vote in that primary.

For another candidate to run in the general election they had to register as something other than Republican. All Republican candidates would have been part of the Republican primary. I believe the two candidates in question registered as Independent in order to get into the general election.

Once there were other candidates for the general election the Republican primary would not be ultimately choosing the winner. There would be at least two candidates on the general election, on Republican and one Independent, so voters would have a choice. Since there would be a choice on the general election, the Republican primary was then open to only Republican voters and not all voters.

Adding the Independent candidate on the general election closed to Republican primary to anyone not a Republican. That is when people began changing their affiliation to Republican in order to be able to vote.

It wasn't clear to me from the article who is being investigated. Is it the two candidates who changed affiliation to register for the general election, block the non-Republicans from voting in the primary, then withdrew as soon as the primary was over? Is it some group that encouraged or funded the two candidates to make this move? Could it possibly be some of the voters who changed affiliation only to be able to vote in a primary and then maybe changed back as soon as the primary was over? It will be interesting to see how all this works out.

[oldtimes]

I have less and less respect for the Morses the longer I am here but the fact of the matter is I did not move here for their benefit. I like my house, I like my neighbors and I like the lifestyle. If that changes I will move.

[Girlcopper]

Three candidates switched parties to run in a primary of the party that is not their choice to belong to.
Many voters switched parties to vote for those candidates who switched parties.
Two persons filed as candidates in that party in an attempt to throw a wrench in the plans of the three candidates.

It all seems underhanded and sneaky to me. However, all within the law as far as I can tell. So it will be interesting to see if any investigation comes up with anything.
Exactly. None of that is illegal. Many many people changed parties to vote in the primary, then changed back. Nothing illegal. I think its about time we all stop the conspiracy theory saga, get a life and move on. I dont agree with many of the election results but Im not in a position to change any of it.

[Eg_cruz]

"The Developer" is exactly who? Is it one person or a group of people? Precisely who is being investigated? Election fraud? Anyone who was legally on the ballot, and they all were, are not "fake" candidates. Why do people choose to stay here when they obviously hate it here? That "on-line" newspaper is a site filed with nothing but TV haters. My virus software does not allow me to view that site anymore. It is dangerous to people with an IQ above 130.
100% not true

[Mfrench]

I’m glad to hear that!

[JanetMM]

"My virus software does not allow me to view that site anymore. It is dangerous to people with an IQ above 130.

My ain’t we proud of ourselves? Chose an IQ that is high enough to be considered gifted. Make sure we all know you are so far above normal and the rest of us. It’s not a compliment when we have to say it ourselves.

[wamley]

It appears you have nothing to fear.

[dewilson58]

My ain’t we proud of ourselves? Chose an IQ that is high enough to be considered gifted. Make sure we all know you are so far above normal and the rest of us. It’s not a compliment when we have to say it ourselves.


Sheldon, you don't understand the comment.

[Mrprez]

Which Law enforcement agency is investigating this “criminal offense”?

[asianthree]

Sheldon, you don't understand the comment.

:1rotfl: We really do need that Sarcasm sign. Maybe Sheldon could be holding the sign....

[shut the front door]

Which Law enforcement agency is investigating this “criminal offense”?

FDLE

Again, from the article:
"The election fraud complaint lists a total of five persons or entities “against whom fraud is brought:”
Peter Wahl
Jerry Prince
Don Burgess
Steve Printz
The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc (and related companies and individuals)"

[Bogie Shooter]

"the term is syncophant"
No, it is sycophant......many examples have been seen in the last 4 years.

[richl]

The good news is that only 2% of the population score above 130😀

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Not their first brush with the law. Some years ago they were fined for shooting endangered animals. Should have gone to jail.
This is a serious charge, election fraud, which it was. Time to get their comeuppance and show they are not above the law.

Years ago, several members of the Morse family were arrested for hunting on their Montana property out of season. Hardly an offense punishable by death. Changing political parties within a specified time frame is LEGAL in the state of Florida. Example: a neighbor "registered" as a Republican to vote in the 2016 primary for "weak" candidate Donald Trump. So far, he hasn't been charged with "election fraud."

[Mrprez]

So, it was referred to the FDLE. Is there an active investigation?

[DecaturFargo]

Where did you get your law degree? Such b.s.

[PugMom]

I agree. Very underhanded and sneaky.

reminds me of Operation Chaos

[Buckeye Bob]

Where is the online newspaper?

[Villages Kahuna]

I recall our Republican U.S. Congresswoman when we moved here was assumed to be running for a third or fourth term. Because the outcome of the primary election was almost certain, she had no primary opponent. There were no candidates in the Democratic primary either. Her only opponent in the General Election could be a write-in.

Just before the deadline for filing as a candidate in the Primary election she announced her intention to retire from Congress and withdrew her name from the election. Simultaneously, boxes containing the necessary number of signed petitions for another candidate were delivered to the Election office. The new candidate was a close friend and political associate of the retiring Congresswoman, at the time the Sheriff of Brooksville. Of course as the only candidate in the Primary and subsequent General election, he was elected to Congress.

The entire sequence was completely legal. Was it underhanded,or whatever term you’d like to apply?

By the way, the new Congressman served two terms before he retired back to his home in Brooksville. At the time of his retirement from Congress he had a campaign finance fund which had received over $9 million in contributions. This despite the fact that he never had an electoral opponent! As the only large businesses in the district, much of the money contributed to his campaign fund came from Gary Morse, The Villages, contractors, Citizens First Bank, or other businesses owned by or closely associated with The Villages. Again, all totally legal.

Being a member of the U.S. House or Senate is a sweet job.

[PennBF]

I am truly disgusted when I remember the terrible acts on animals during one of the Developer and family member and friend so called "hunting trip" to Montana. As I recall, one member of the party even cut off the legs of one of the animals so the picture of the kill was better. Part of my growing up was on a farm and the rule was always that you did not kill anything unless it was for food, no exceptions. These were just people with no shame or feelings killing innocent animals for sport. If that represents your value system then what are you teaching your children or where do you stop. I remember walking with my brother one time and there was an ant on the walk and he walked all around it and remarked that if you would kill it where do you stop. I am at a loss to understand anyone who tries to justify these acts of slaughter!:ohdear:

[Patzy]

Love TV! Love America!
I try to stay informed about American happenings so I can use my "rights" to mobilize my "responsibilities" to speak up. For stupid stuff, I agree with you, but I can tell you, as I just spent months fighting the Sumter and Town of LL about their inappropriate developer support to bring apartments into the Hacienda residential neighborhood. Setting up to build apartments elsewhere in TV without having to go back to counties. Sumter Commissioners also raised taxes 25% last year to find county infrastructure that TV typically pays for. My point is that your emotional response is kinda a cop-out and nasty to others. You are quite misinformed about several comments. News-com is independent and without this, TV we would not have anyone looking under the stones. The Developers are the 3 Gkids of Harold, Gary's kids. They are not bad people at all, but they are advised by many people who may not have the best interests of owners at the top. Hopefully, you realize that being privately owned will not transfer to the next generation and will lead to being sold as one entity, or broken up, its public offerings. TV has been taking actions typical if prep for these actions. Selling off excess commercial space and establishing better cash streams like apartments. If you chose to not be involved in monitoring the happenings on TV, then don't criticize those who do (not the regular complainers or flame throwers) stay in the know to keep our investments healthy. FL has a few planned developments that as the leaders made bad decisions collapsed and the owners either lost tons of money or are living in the remaining mess. I learned a lot over the past months that I didn't want to, but I feel that my and others' efforts are causing some needed course correction that may keep our utopia going. Like getting 3 new Commissioners and the AAC getting new membership. Happy Thanksgiving

[Justus]

That is not what happened. They were NOT fined for shooting endangered animals. They felled an animal on their land in the Western state they use for hunting and did not use it for food or dispose of it. Someone reported it.

Nothing came of it.

True! The "Developer" owned the property on which the animal was felled. Some folk have no idea what it's like to have deer or elk overrun their property. Today's anthropomorphizing of animals is an unfortunate result of the "Bambi Syndrome", in which any furry beast with big eyes is considered lovable and benign. If you have not lived among them, you may think they're cute. In truth, deer, especially male deer, travel in herds. They are destructive, dangerous, and can transmit deadly disease to humans and other animals. Their herds need to be thinned or they will die -on their own - in unpleasant circumstances. I for one am thankful there are still those among us (hunters, landowners, etc.) who are willing to perform this service.

[Jacob85]

There was a news report of people being on a ballet who were running under an independent party, did not have any information out there and who were being financed by the Republican Party. They never made any personal appearances and were only put there to keep a Democrat from winning. In one case the republicans won by 35 votes because this fake person got over a 1,000 votes that could have gone to either of the two candidates. These people had no intent of taking the office and when a news reporter tried to interview one of them they could not be found. It’s an elaborate scam to siphon off votes!

[vintageogauge]

I am truly disgusted when I remember the terrible acts on animals during one of the Developer and family member and friend so called "hunting trip" to Montana. As I recall, one member of the party even cut off the legs of one of the animals so the picture of the kill was better. Part of my growing up was on a farm and the rule was always that you did not kill anything unless it was for food, no exceptions. These were just people with no shame or feelings killing innocent animals for sport. If that represents your value system then what are you teaching your children or where do you stop. I remember walking with my brother one time and there was an ant on the walk and he walked all around it and remarked that if you would kill it where do you stop. I am at a loss to understand anyone who tries to justify these acts of slaughter!:ohdear:

So you're saying this leads to election fraud?

[Mrprez]

Where did you get your law degree? Such b.s.

Which of the 44 posts prior to yours are you referring to?

[PennBF]

Really sad that some try to justify the slaughter of animals even when it is illegal and cruel. I am sure cutting the legs off of a slaughtered animal for a picture, or letting others rot in the field are the appropriate ways of treating one of our most valuable resources. :ohdear:

[graciegirl]

Really sad that some try to justify the slaughter of animals even when it is illegal and cruel. I am sure cutting the legs off of a slaughtered animal for a picture, or letting others rot in the field are the appropriate ways of treating one of our most valuable resources. :ohdear:

That is simply not true. A local taxidermist questioned the legality of some game animals the Morses brought him from Montana from a ranch they owned.

But many new Villages residents might not know that Morse; his daughter, Kelsea Manly Morse; his wife, M’Lissa; and several associates were charged in November 2010 with a variety of hunting violations in Montana. The charges stemmed from incidents in 2007 and 2008.

In February 2012, Morse, who in late 2014 succeeded his father, the late H. Gary Morse, as head of The Villages, paid a $4,500 fine but avoided going to prison in connection with the hunting violations. Under a plea agreement, four felony charges for illegal possession of a game animal were dropped. Each could have carried a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $50,000 fine. And a second misdemeanor charge of hunting without a license also was dropped.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I don’t know if it was legal or not , I guess will find out . Blocking out all the Democratic voters in county was certainly not morally right, in local elections it’s not about which party you belong to , you have a right to vote in these elections in most places whichever party your in . I shouldn’t have to change parties to vote for local official

[graciegirl]

They got connections and friends in very high places, the investigation will result in nothing. More importantly, perhaps this will be a wake up call that once you start prioritizing maximizing profits over your clients best interests, the clients will start to demand reasonable checks and balances over ultimate control of things. Time will tell? Stay tuned!

It was several years ago when someone reported them for hunting without a license on their own land.
.

But many new Villages residents might not know that Morse; his daughter, Kelsea Manly Morse; his wife, M’Lissa; and several associates were charged in November 2010 with a variety of hunting violations in Montana. The charges stemmed from incidents in 2007 and 2008.

In February 2012, Morse, who in late 2014 succeeded his father, the late H. Gary Morse, as head of The Villages, paid a $4,500 fine but avoided going to prison in connection with the hunting violations. Under a plea agreement, four felony charges for illegal possession of a game animal were dropped. Each could have carried a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $50,000 fine. And a second misdemeanor charge of hunting without a license also was dropped.

[Bill14564]

I don’t know if it was legal or not , I guess will find out . Blocking out all the Democratic voters in county was certainly not morally right, in local elections it’s not about which party you belong to , you have a right to vote in these elections in most places whichever party your in . I shouldn’t have to change parties to vote for local official

There are primary elections and general elections. The "shenanigans" (if that is a fair term to use) applied only to the primary and the result was that only registered Republicans could vote in the Republican primary (sort of makes sense when you say it that way). No one was denied the right to vote in the general election.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

And what does dragging up an old case that nobody cared about when it happened have to do with the current post???

[justjim]

I recall our Republican U.S. Congresswoman when we moved here was assumed to be running for a third or fourth term. Because the outcome of the primary election was almost certain, she had no primary opponent. There were no candidates in the Democratic primary either. Her only opponent in the General Election could be a write-in.

Just before the deadline for filing as a candidate in the Primary election she announced her intention to retire from Congress and withdrew her name from the election. Simultaneously, boxes containing the necessary number of signed petitions for another candidate were delivered to the Election office. The new candidate was a close friend and political associate of the retiring Congresswoman, at the time the Sheriff of Brooksville. Of course as the only candidate in the Primary and subsequent General election, he was elected to Congress.

The entire sequence was completely legal. Was it underhanded,or whatever term you’d like to apply?

By the way, the new Congressman served two terms before he retired back to his home in Brooksville. At the time of his retirement from Congress he had a campaign finance fund which had received over $9 million in contributions. This despite the fact that he never had an electoral opponent! As the only large businesses in the district, much of the money contributed to his campaign fund came from Gary Morse, The Villages, contractors, Citizens First Bank, or other businesses owned by or closely associated with The Villages. Again, all totally legal.

Being a member of the U.S. House or Senate is a sweet job.

And exactly why reasonable term limits and campaign finance limits would best serve our country. Unfortunately most of us won’t live to see them.

[john352]

The https://www.**************.com/2020/11/24/the-villages-fake-candidates-election-fraud-case-turned-over-to-fdle/ does not mention "the developer".

[graciegirl]

And what does dragging up an old case that nobody cared about when it happened have to do with the current post???

I don't know. I am worried that the new people elected in charge of Sumter county may try to change the way things are run and try to make us not a CDD.

I am not a fan of the POA.

I sense sort of a campaign on here from some posters.

[justjim]

Where is the online newspaper?

Like most things you can Google or Bing it.

[shut the front door]

The https://www.**************.com/2020/11/24/the-villages-fake-candidates-election-fraud-case-turned-over-to-fdle/ does not mention "the developer".

Umm, who do you think "The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc (and related companies and individuals)" is?

[KRM0614]

"The Developer" is exactly who? Is it one person or a group of people? Precisely who is being investigated? Election fraud? Anyone who was legally on the ballot, and they all were, are not "fake" candidates. Why do people choose to stay here when they obviously hate it here? That "on-line" newspaper is a site filed with nothing but TV haters. My virus software does not allow me to view that site anymore. It is dangerous to people with an IQ above 130.
Really ? Above 130 ?
Shameful rhetoric ! It’s not up to you to call out people who discovered many things after buying a house and discovering most of the sales rhetoric was simply that. Nothing is free golf is not free the commercials should be taken down

[graciegirl]

Really ? Above 130 ?
Shameful rhetoric ! It’s not up to you to call out people who discovered many things after buying a house and discovering most of the sales rhetoric was simply that. Nothing is free golf is not free the commercials should be taken down

The Villages has not had to advertise for many years. I haven't EVER heard sales rhetoric/spiel/heavy sell from anyone who works for the developer. They don't have to. They have people standing in line to move here and I well can understand why. I love this wonderful place and the many people I know who live here.

There is no charge for golf if you walk and carry nine hole courses.

We have had two homes here and had not a problem with either of them.

[vintageogauge]

Really sad that some try to justify the slaughter of animals even when it is illegal and cruel. I am sure cutting the legs off of a slaughtered animal for a picture, or letting others rot in the field are the appropriate ways of treating one of our most valuable resources. :ohdear:

I assume at this point you are not replying to the topic and are attempting to change it to your cause. Trophy hunting has been going on for hundreds of years and will continue most likely for hundreds more, best not to get your bowels in an uproar over it.

[biker1]

Try to make us not a CDD? Exactly how would they accomplish that?


I don't know. I am worried that the new people elected in charge of Sumter county may try to change the way things are run and try to make us not a CDD.

I am not a fan of the POA.

I sense sort of a campaign on here from some posters.

[Joe V.]

Really ? Above 130 ?
Shameful rhetoric ! It’s not up to you to call out people who discovered many things after buying a house and discovering most of the sales rhetoric was simply that. Nothing is free golf is not free the commercials should be taken down

Triggered?

[Joe V.]

100% not true


What is 100% not true. Explain.

[Joe V.]

My ain’t we proud of ourselves? Chose an IQ that is high enough to be considered gifted. Make sure we all know you are so far above normal and the rest of us. It’s not a compliment when we have to say it ourselves.

130 IQ is considered just moderately gifted. I can not help it if my virus software algorithm doesn't allow someone, being moderately gifted, to peruse detritus on that "online newspaper." You sound triggered? Why is that?

[Indydealmaker]

As a result of the use of "fake" candidates to disenfranchise voters in last August's Republican primary, the Developer (along with the "fake" candidates and the incumbents whom the "fake" candidates were helping) are under criminal investigation by the FDLE for possible elections fraud. Not a word about it in the Daily Sun. For details, see today's on-line newspaper.

Mita Minton is not above creating false news.