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neilbcox
12-01-2020, 07:35 PM
Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

This change will be great for improving around the greens conditions on our golf courses! If you are not legally handicapped you will have to follow the cart rules as the rest of us have to follow. I live on Bonifay CC Destin course. You would be stunned with the RA crazy parking ON and around the greens.

Hopefully the Villages Management did not change this RA rule lately!

This is really fair to those who are legally handicapped!

retiredguy123
12-01-2020, 07:56 PM
What about all the people who have "legal" Florida handicap status, but who shouldn't have it? Isn't that approved with just a doctor's signature also? It seems to me that the approval standard for golf cart use isn't any different from the Florida approval standard for regular road vehicles.

dewilson58
12-01-2020, 08:12 PM
My guess is 17 posts.

Fredman
12-01-2020, 08:54 PM
My guess is 17 posts.

I will take the over

EdFNJ
12-01-2020, 10:39 PM
What about all the people who have "legal" Florida handicap status, but who shouldn't have it? Isn't that approved with just a doctor's signature also? It seems to me that the approval standard for golf cart use isn't any different from the Florida approval standard for regular road vehicles.80%* of the VEHICLES around here have handicap plates around here anyway which means 80%* of the golfers qualify so not sure how new rule would help. Probably will be more who now are aware! ;)

Disclaimer: I don't play golf but I always wondered why so many carts are all over the fairways here and right up to the greens. Never noticed that up north on the local county courses when we went to the park.

*Please note the 80% number I used above was just pulled out of the, errr, AIR and was not meant to have any basis in reality. Sorry if that caused any users any discomfort by thinking it was an actual statistic! :1rotfl:

Brownmoose13
12-01-2020, 11:18 PM
This past March I was playing behind 4 IDIOTS who parked their carts between the sand trap and the green. Finally I saw an ambassador and we told him but he said there was nothing he could do. They should have had their golf privileges taken away for 30 days, 60 days for a second violation. You would think that 1 of the 4 would have enough brains to know better but I guess not. I see way too many golfers that no more look handicapped than the man in the moon....just too lazy to walk

tsmall22204
12-02-2020, 06:11 AM
I think your 80% number is high. Please let us know where your data is from. Exaggeration is not science.

DaleDivine
12-02-2020, 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=neilbcox;1868568]Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

Not sure what you mean by doctor not being able to sign for a handicap pass.
My doctor signed for mine and my wife's handicap passes.
AND just because a person doesn't appear to be disabled, you really don't know what their disability is. DON'T PASS judgement.

daddys55
12-02-2020, 07:04 AM
How can you look and tell if a person is handicapped

manhattan
12-02-2020, 07:08 AM
Live on #4 Silver Lake cart path runs right along fairway (which is narrow) to within 20 steps of green yet players drive up the middle of the fairway with front wheels on edge of green. Most of these players look healthy and walk around the green fine how lazy can you be?



[QUOTE=neilbcox;1868568]Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

Not sure what you mean by doctor not being able to sign for a handicap pass.
My doctor signed for mine and my wife's handicap passes.
AND just because a person doesn't appear to be disabled, you really don't know what their disability is. DON'T PASS judgement.

Mrmean58
12-02-2020, 07:10 AM
I think what OP was trying to say was that your doctor can't just sign your RA application and in all honesty many applications weren't signed by doctors but by someone else to make it look like a doctor. Not all but some. Now a doctor must review the application and make sure an individual meets the physical limitations standards set by the state before the application is accepted for a handicap placard.

Bill1701
12-02-2020, 07:12 AM
[QUOTE=neilbcox;1868568]Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

Not sure what you mean by doctor not being able to sign for a handicap pass.
My doctor signed for mine and my wife's handicap passes.
AND just because a person doesn't appear to be disabled, you really don't know what their disability is. DON'T PASS judgement.

If they didn't pass judgement, many people here would have nothing to do all day.

DecaturFargo
12-02-2020, 07:19 AM
Entitled folks. The Ambassadors are so limited in what they can say. Argue with a golfer and you will get fired. Just another Morse rule. Ridiculous, isn't it.

pkfavreau2
12-02-2020, 08:00 AM
I had a knee replacement last year and using an RA for a short time allowed me to play golf. I only drove on the course if it had hills I could not navigate. The new rule will be awful for those who are in a boot temporarily, awaiting surgery or have a short term disability.

fastboat
12-02-2020, 08:12 AM
Live on #4 Silver Lake cart path runs right along fairway (which is narrow) to within 20 steps of green yet players drive up the middle of the fairway with front wheels on edge of green. Most of these players look healthy and walk around the green fine how lazy can you be?
[QUOTE=DaleDivine;1868668]

Heart problems are not visible

Singerlady
12-02-2020, 08:18 AM
This past March I was playing behind 4 IDIOTS who parked their carts between the sand trap and the green. Finally I saw an ambassador and we told him but he said there was nothing he could do. They should have had their golf privileges taken away for 30 days, 60 days for a second violation. You would think that 1 of the 4 would have enough brains to know better but I guess not. I see way too many golfers that no more look handicapped than the man in the moon....just too lazy to walk
Sometimes the handicaps are internal… Like a heart condition. So we cannot judge just physical handicaps.

Singerlady
12-02-2020, 08:19 AM
This past March I was playing behind 4 IDIOTS who parked their carts between the sand trap and the green. Finally I saw an ambassador and we told him but he said there was nothing he could do. They should have had their golf privileges taken away for 30 days, 60 days for a second violation. You would think that 1 of the 4 would have enough brains to know better but I guess not. I see way too many golfers that no more look handicapped than the man in the moon....just too lazy to walk
Sometimes handicaps are internal and not external.… Such as a heart condition.

mulligan
12-02-2020, 08:23 AM
[QUOTE=neilbcox;1868568]Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

Not sure what you mean by doctor not being able to sign for a handicap pass.
My doctor signed for mine and my wife's handicap passes.
AND just because a person doesn't appear to be disabled, you really don't know what their disability is. DON'T PASS judgement.

Cheapbas
12-02-2020, 08:25 AM
[QUOTE=neilbcox;1868568]Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

Not sure what you mean by doctor not being able to sign for a handicap pass.
My doctor signed for mine and my wife's handicap passes.
AND just because a person doesn't appear to be disabled, you really don't know what their disability is. DON'T PASS judgement.

Excellent point, they don’t have a knee brace solution for a heart or asthma condition

fastboat
12-02-2020, 08:27 AM
Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

This change will be great for improving around the greens conditions on our golf courses! If you are not legally handicapped you will have to follow the cart rules as the rest of us have to follow. I live on Bonifay CC Destin course. You would be stunned with the RA crazy parking ON and around the greens.

Hopefully the Villages Management did not change this RA rule lately!

This is really fair to those who are legally handicapped!

Heart problems are NOT visible.

golfing eagles
12-02-2020, 08:30 AM
I had a knee replacement last year and using an RA for a short time allowed me to play golf. I only drove on the course if it had hills I could not navigate. The new rule will be awful for those who are in a boot temporarily, awaiting surgery or have a short term disability.

Not so. State handicap forms have a line for the expected time the disability will end, at least in NY. So a person recovering from surgery can get a handicap permit for a few months

holger danske
12-02-2020, 08:41 AM
Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

This change will be great for improving around the greens conditions on our golf courses! If you are not legally handicapped you will have to follow the cart rules as the rest of us have to follow. I live on Bonifay CC Destin course. You would be stunned with the RA crazy parking ON and around the greens.

Hopefully the Villages Management did not change this RA rule lately!

This is really fair to those who are legally handicapped!

"Assignment of Course Access Pass cards will be issued only to those individuals who have a state certified disabled parking permit. A valid handicap placard, along with a valid ID / driver’s license and registration will need to be presented to the Golf Administration offices to obtain or renew a CAP Card."

Looking for where it says Florida issued only. Am I missing something?

Colleen Kelley-Rogers
12-02-2020, 08:44 AM
Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

This change will be great for improving around the greens conditions on our golf courses! If you are not legally handicapped you will have to follow the cart rules as the rest of us have to follow. I live on Bonifay CC Destin course. You would be stunned with the RA crazy parking ON and around the greens.

Hopefully the Villages Management did not change this RA rule lately!

This is really fair to those who are legally handicapped!

REMINDER: Unless FL LAW has changed golf cars are NOT ALLOWED to park in any handicap parking spaces at any shopping centers, grocery stores, etc. If you are truly handicapped and have a FL Handicap tag or DV tag and need to park close by, DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE not your golf cart to those places. Lady Lake Police are not doing enough to ticket golf carts parked in handicap parking spaces. Please be mindful.

drcar
12-02-2020, 08:45 AM
Entitled folks. The Ambassadors are so limited in what they can say. Argue with a golfer and you will get fired. Just another Morse rule. Ridiculous, isn't it.

Another post with no facts to back it up, No ambassador has been fired for informing the golfer of the proper golf rules.

mabgo1
12-02-2020, 08:59 AM
Live on #4 Silver Lake cart path runs right along fairway (which is narrow) to within 20 steps of green yet players drive up the middle of the fairway with front wheels on edge of green. Most of these players look healthy and walk around the green fine how lazy can you be?



[QUOTE=DaleDivine;1868668]

billethkid
12-02-2020, 09:04 AM
[QUOTE=DaleDivine;1868668]

It means you will have to have a handicap plate for your automobile, not a blue hanging tag, in order to get an RA tag for your cart.

Not correct.
The new system requires a blue hanging placard application signed by your doctor then issued by the state of FL. Renewable after the designated expiration date. Then take the blue hanging placard and permit to golf management (Lake Sumter Landing) for issuance of sleeve for the golf cart (which must be renewed annually).

rwfisher1969
12-02-2020, 09:12 AM
[QUOTE=neilbcox;1868568]Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

Not sure what you mean by doctor not being able to sign for a handicap pass.
My doctor signed for mine and my wife's handicap passes.
AND just because a person doesn't appear to be disabled, you really don't know what their disability is. DON'T PASS judgement.

Having a disability does not give pass holders the right to drive right up onto the fringe to park to go putt. I have seen this in TV and at home in NY. People can park close enough without being ignorant about causing damage.

Linnberg
12-02-2020, 09:20 AM
[QUOTE=DaleDivine;1868668]

It means you will have to have a handicap plate for your automobile, not a blue hanging tag, in order to get an RA tag for your cart.

That is incorrect. Blue handicap tag from the state of FL is the same as a handicap license.
The way it works is you must get an approval first from your doctor and since it is not for getting a golf cart handicap but an actual state handicap license or blue tag, doctor are way more restricted and careful before approving as state can review. Doctors who hand them out like candy.
My hubby went to his heart doctor because he has 11 stints in his legs among multiple other conditions.
He had his office check if it should approved.
He took that to the MV departments who approved and asked if he would prefer a new license handicap
Plate or Blue handicap tag.
My hubby didn’t want his license plate showing handicap so he got blue tag instead.
Took all to golf department and now has the new golf handicap good for current and future.

dewilson58
12-02-2020, 09:20 AM
This change will be great for improving around the greens conditions on our golf courses!
Vast Majority of the players with RA' use them appropriately and are needed. There is not great damage to the areas around the greens. There are a few bozo's out there and they will continue with or without a change in the requirements.

neilbcox
12-02-2020, 09:33 AM
Reread my post! My wife is handicapped so I judge no one!

My point is you MUST be a Florida handicapped holder. The Villagers golf will no longer accept a note from your doctor stating that they think you need assistance.

neilbcox
12-02-2020, 09:33 AM
[QUOTE=neilbcox;1868568]Many of you know that starting in January 2021 that RA registrations for golf carts will require a Florida issued legal handicap status! Your doctor will NO longer be able to sign your application.

Not sure what you mean by doctor not being able to sign for a handicap pass.
My doctor signed for mine and my wife's handicap passes.
AND just because a person doesn't appear to be disabled, you really don't know what their disability is. DON'T PASS judgement.
Reread my post! My wife is handicapped so I judge no one!

My point is you MUST be a Florida handicapped holder. The Villagers golf will no longer accept a note from your doctor stating that they think you need assistance.

Waltdisney4life
12-02-2020, 09:38 AM
I think the over and under should be closer to 50 as long as they don’t close the thread.

neilbcox
12-02-2020, 09:40 AM
[QUOTE=DaleDivine;1868668]

It means you will have to have a handicap plate for your automobile, not a blue hanging tag, in order to get an RA tag for your cart.

I did not say you have to have a handicapped tag...a blue placket will work. When you receive a Florida handicap plate/placket you receive a receipt showing your data. This is what they will accept.

OBRight
12-02-2020, 09:41 AM
"Assignment of Course Access Pass cards will be issued only to those individuals who have a state certified disabled parking permit. A valid handicap placard, along with a valid ID / driver’s license and registration will need to be presented to the Golf Administration offices to obtain or renew a CAP Card."

Looking for where it says Florida issued only. Am I missing something?

It's not Florida only. We are back and forth between here and our home in Alabama. Just yesterday I took in my Alabama blue hanging placard, Alabama drivers license, car registration and Villages ID and got my CAP card. My primary vehicle has a handicap license plate and I have the hanging blue placard for when we're in my wife's car. I'm limited to only playing 9 holes these days but I still enjoy it.

ken.yotz
12-02-2020, 09:57 AM
I don't look handicapped until you see me walk with a limp and slowly. The standard RA rules actually benefit everyone since they speed up play. The "cuffs" must be displayed on your cart and renewed each year at a cost of $6 or $8. There is also a special type of cart for golfers with greater limitations. It is available at limited locations (including Evans Prarie) and allows the golfer to not just get within 15' of the green, but to go onto the green without causing damage. My only knowledge of these is through my neighbor whose wife uses it. Perhaps some starter or ambassador out there can add to this.

stanley
12-02-2020, 10:03 AM
There is also a special type of cart for golfers with greater limitations. It is available at limited locations (including Evans Prarie) and allows the golfer to not just get within 15' of the green, but to go onto the green without causing damage. My only knowledge of these is through my neighbor whose wife uses it. Perhaps some starter or ambassador out there can add to this.

Palmer has two SoLo Riders

Home - SoloRider: The Leading Single Rider Adaptive Golf Cart for People with Disablities (http://solorider.com/)

regansings
12-02-2020, 10:14 AM
What about those that have handicapped plates from out of state? That should be sufficient.

TimeForChange
12-02-2020, 10:17 AM
80% of the VEHICLES around here have handicap plates around here anyway which means 80% of the golfers qualify so not sure how new rule would help. Probably will be more who now are aware! ;)

Disclaimer: I don't play golf but I always wondered why so many carts are all over the fairways here and right up to the greens. Never noticed that up north on the local county courses when we went to the park.

and where did you get that number?:ohdear:

stanley
12-02-2020, 10:18 AM
What about those that have handicapped plates from out of state? That should be sufficient.

"Assignment of Course Access Pass cards will be issued only to those individuals who
have a state certified disabled parking permit."

It's all right here: (again)

https://www.golfthevillages.com/whatsnew/Cap2021.pdf

bagboy
12-02-2020, 10:45 AM
What about those that have handicapped plates from out of state? That should be sufficient.

See post #34.

Nick Kelly
12-02-2020, 10:48 AM
That is not all !! My wife golfs and has a serious medical condition. She has gotten the handicap cuff for her golf bag for years. Golf is her escape. I went to the golf administration and showed her the PA disability placard ,drivers license and told them she has gotten them in the past. A doctors note is on file. I was told I have to connect or associate the drivers license to the placard. I suggested she call PA motor vehicle and she said it is not her responsibility it is mine. She was not helpful. I did as she asked and got a lovely lady in PA motor motor vehicle dept. She sent me a email connecting them. I printed it out and brought it back to lady in golf administration. I suggested to her it is a simple phone call now that I tracked down someone to assist in this process. It would be very helpful to handicapped PA people. She said she would not do that. I then suggested she just give the number out to any Pa who are disabled and want to play in TV and need a permit. She refused to do that too. It took me weeks to track down this helpful person in PA. Another person may not be as motivated as myself or computer savvy. Why treat handicap people like this ???????????

DonH57
12-02-2020, 11:16 AM
This past March I was playing behind 4 IDIOTS who parked their carts between the sand trap and the green. Finally I saw an ambassador and we told him but he said there was nothing he could do. They should have had their golf privileges taken away for 30 days, 60 days for a second violation. You would think that 1 of the 4 would have enough brains to know better but I guess not. I see way too many golfers that no more look handicapped than the man in the moon....just too lazy to walk

I hope what they do cuts on the abuse of the intended purpose they have it for. Just like you I've witnessed the same things you have and the ambassadors claim they can't do any thing but watch too. Really sad some of these people have no respect for the game nor the courses we been provided to play on. I think some don't care because they know they couldn't do the same outside the villages.:ohdear:

drcar
12-02-2020, 11:28 AM
That is not all !! My wife golfs and has a serious medical condition. She has gotten the handicap cuff for her golf bag for years. Golf is her escape. I went to the golf administration and showed her the PA disability placard ,drivers license and told them she has gotten them in the past. A doctors note is on file. I was told I have to connect or associate the drivers license to the placard. I suggested she call PA motor vehicle and she said it is not her responsibility it is mine. She was not helpful. I did as she asked and got a lovely lady in PA motor motor vehicle dept. She sent me a email connecting them. I printed it out and brought it back to lady in golf administration. I suggested to her it is a simple phone call now that I tracked down someone to assist in this process. It would be very helpful to handicapped PA people. She said she would not do that. I then suggested she just give the number out to any Pa who are disabled and want to play in TV and need a permit. She refused to do that too. It took me weeks to track down this helpful person in PA. Another person may not be as motivated as myself or computer savvy. Why treat handicap people like this ???????????

She was correct, it is not her job to do your footwork. I understand that you feel it would have been helpful, but they are VERY busy and there are more then PA people here. They would have to do it for every state. BUT I am glad you got your issue resolved.

Joanne19335
12-02-2020, 11:39 AM
This past March I was playing behind 4 IDIOTS who parked their carts between the sand trap and the green. Finally I saw an ambassador and we told him but he said there was nothing he could do. They should have had their golf privileges taken away for 30 days, 60 days for a second violation. You would think that 1 of the 4 would have enough brains to know better but I guess not. I see way too many golfers that no more look handicapped than the man in the moon....just too lazy to walk

The ambassador should have told the golfer that parking between the traps is prohibited, not to mention dangerous. If the golfer persisted in breaking this rule, the ambassador should call his outside manager who will come out to the course and speak to the golfer. As for the carts that ride right up to the green, the new rule is to stay 30 feet from all greens. It is the ambassador’s responsibility to remind golfers of this rule. I had to do so this morning. I told the golfer that he should be 10 yards from the green. His answer to me was: “I thought it was 30 feet.” I just smiled and drove away.

EdFNJ
12-02-2020, 11:50 AM
80% of the VEHICLES around here have handicap plates around here anyway which means 80% of the golfers qualify so not sure how new rule would help. Probably will be more who now are aware! ;)

and where did you get that number?:ohdear: From my uncle's wife's cousin's busybody sister-in-law. OBVIOUSLY (aside from the obvious ;) at the end of my comment) it was meant as humorous hyperbole. Do you REALLY think that it was intended to be an exact statistic gleaned from all motor vehicle records here in The Villages? :1rotfl: Yea, it's definitely "time for change" in people's attitudes around here. If people would just loosen up a bit and spend more time making positive comments (or NO comments at all if they can't be positive) things would be so much better around here.

For your benefit I will add a disclaimer to my post that the 80% figure was not meant to be a statistically significant number but just hyperbole. :ohdear:

HORNET
12-02-2020, 12:14 PM
I was in an industrial accident many years ago. I have a State Placard to have space to get out of my vehicle, I don’t need one to golf. Everybody has a different story!

CWGUY
12-02-2020, 01:04 PM
80%* of the VEHICLES around here have handicap plates around here anyway which means 80%* of the golfers qualify so not sure how new rule would help. Probably will be more who now are aware! ;)

Disclaimer: I don't play golf but I always wondered why so many carts are all over the fairways here and right up to the greens. Never noticed that up north on the local county courses when we went to the park.

*Please note the 80% number I used above was just pulled out of the, errr, AIR and was not meant to have any basis in reality. Sorry if that caused any users any discomfort by thinking it was an actual statistic! :1rotfl:

:icon_wink: I've asked you a million times not to exaggerate. :1rotfl:

Dana1963
12-02-2020, 01:16 PM
I had a knee replacement last year and using an RA for a short time allowed me to play golf. I only drove on the course if it had hills I could not navigate. The new rule will be awful for those who are in a boot temporarily, awaiting surgery or have a short term disability.
Your Dr has a form from Motor Vehicle Dept for temporary handicap sticker and can be hand carried to MV by you friend or spouse. IT’s FREE.

golfing eagles
12-02-2020, 01:41 PM
Your Dr has a form from Motor Vehicle Dept for temporary handicap sticker and can be hand carried to MV by you friend or spouse. IT’s FREE.

Wish I had said that :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

vlmcelfresh
12-02-2020, 02:10 PM
RA tags have rules to follow. If ambassadors have no power, get rid of them.

Carole clausen
12-02-2020, 02:18 PM
I also had knee replacement. If I could walk to my ball, I did. The handicap tag gave me the opportunity to play. With complications it took a year to not need the tag. I was so grateful for having the opportunity to play. Some may abuse, but for the rest of us it was a life saver.

drcar
12-02-2020, 02:32 PM
RA tags have rules to follow. If ambassadors have no power, get rid of them.

LOL, the tags or the ambassadors??

Joanne19335
12-02-2020, 02:59 PM
Another post with no facts to back it up, No ambassador has been fired for informing the golfer of the proper golf rules.

Not to my knowledge, but we were told that if things start to heat up we call the outside manager on duty. Golfers are not permitted to “abuse” the staff. Now let me count the number of times I‘be been called a bitch. I smile and tell the moron to have a nice day.

golfing eagles
12-02-2020, 03:13 PM
RA tags have rules to follow. If ambassadors have no power, get rid of them.

I also had knee replacement. If I could walk to my ball, I did. The handicap tag gave me the opportunity to play. With complications it took a year to not need the tag. I was so grateful for having the opportunity to play. Some may abuse, but for the rest of us it was a life saver.

Not to my knowledge, but we were told that if things start to heat up we call the outside manager on duty. Golfers are not permitted to “abuse” the staff. Now let me count the number of times I‘be been called a bitch. I smile and tell the moron to have a nice day.

And therein lies the problem. Whenever a benefit is provided to some because they need it, there are others who try to game the system for a free lunch. The only solution is enforcement. Unfortunately, enforcement sometimes leads to confrontation. The ambassadors are there to help, not to abuse. In 7 years of playing golf in TV, I've only seen one ambassador who was out of line, but dozens if not hundreds of golfers abuse them. Pretty sad, since the ambassador is correct 99.9% of the time. The aggregate time these golfers spend arguing with the ambassador could be better spent at the range, considering I've never seen a good golfer break the rules or argue

dewilson58
12-02-2020, 03:18 PM
Do you want to revise your estimate??:clap2:
Nope
Very happy everyone is playing together so well today.
:super:

Brownmoose13
12-02-2020, 03:24 PM
Sometimes the handicaps are internal… Like a heart condition. So we cannot judge just physical handicaps.


I seriously doubt that all 4 had heart problems but I do agree that their problem was internal, more like between the ears.
How much common sense does it take to not park (both carts) between a sand trap and the green. They could not have been more than 3-4 feet from the green

Number 10 GI
12-02-2020, 04:00 PM
[QUOTE=manhattan;1868688]Live on #4 Silver Lake cart path runs right along fairway (which is narrow) to within 20 steps of green yet players drive up the middle of the fairway with front wheels on edge of green. Most of these players look healthy and walk around the green fine how lazy can you be?


Heart problems are not visible

If a person has a heart in that poor of a condition that they can't walk 20 steps they shouldn't be playing golf let alone driving a golf cart or a motor vehicle.

Number 10 GI
12-02-2020, 04:11 PM
I've said this before, tell me how much fun golf is.

Bogie Shooter
12-02-2020, 08:24 PM
And therein lies the problem. Whenever a benefit is provided to some because they need it, there are others who try to game the system for a free lunch. The only solution is enforcement. Unfortunately, enforcement sometimes leads to confrontation. The ambassadors are there to help, not to abuse. In 7 years of playing golf in TV, I've only seen one ambassador who was out of line, but dozens if not hundreds of golfers abuse them. Pretty sad, since the ambassador is correct 99.9% of the time. The aggregate time these golfers spend arguing with the ambassador could be better spent at the range, considering I've never seen a good golfer break the rules or argue
And most, if not all ambassadors, are our neighbors.😀

llmcdaniel
12-03-2020, 03:53 AM
My daughter is a btk amputee, and I can’t even guess the number of times people have openly criticized her for being a “perfectly healthy young woman” taking up a handicapped space. Number one: mind your own business!!! Anymore she just raises her pant leg and walks away. Every step she takes hurts, and how dare people openly criticize her just because she looks healthy.

bjp1673
12-03-2020, 07:57 AM
Agreed. I’m in a boot right now until the end of December. I should be out of it by January thank goodness.

Villages Kahuna
12-03-2020, 09:03 AM
I called Golf Administration and found that if you could present a current state handicapped hang tag, all that would be needed is a driver’s license or other picture ID plus a Villages ID card. With those forms of identification an RA card would be issued with the same date of expiration as shown on the state hang tag.

Larchap49
12-03-2020, 10:44 AM
Entitled folks. The Ambassadors are so limited in what they can say. Argue with a golfer and you will get fired. Just another Morse rule. Ridiculous, isn't it.

Just like the Citizens First tellers having to fill out the deposit tickets for customers. Only bank I've seen where that is the case. Very unfair to the other people in line who have to wait and listen to the rude customer complain because it is taking too long. Stupid is as stupid does.

sswitenki
12-03-2020, 10:48 AM
Shortly after my husband and I came to Florida, he needed hip surgery. His doctor gave him required paperwork to get a legal temporary handicap placard. I was shocked that we were able to get this as a Minnesota resident living in Florida supposedly in a temporary status. We were grateful. We are now legal residents and he needed a permanent handicap status. His family doctor completed the paperwork to convert the temporary placard to permanent.

dewilson58
12-03-2020, 10:56 AM
Just like the Citizens First tellers having to fill out the deposit tickets for customers. Only bank I've seen where that is the case. Very unfair to the other people in line who have to wait and listen to the rude customer complain because it is taking too long. Stupid is as stupid does.
Great customer service in my book.

Bogie Shooter
12-03-2020, 11:43 AM
Just like the Citizens First tellers having to fill out the deposit tickets for customers. Only bank I've seen where that is the case. Very unfair to the other people in line who have to wait and listen to the rude customer complain because it is taking too long. Stupid is as stupid does.

What? I fill out my own.

dadspet
03-23-2021, 10:11 AM
I had a knee replacement last year and using an RA for a short time allowed me to play golf. I only drove on the course if it had hills I could not navigate. The new rule will be awful for those who are in a boot temporarily, awaiting surgery or have a short term disability.

Unless you have a knee issue with pain you don't really understand. I like golf but developed a knee issue requiring me to get 6 gel shots and cortisone for the pain especially if I had to walk some limited distance or go up small hills. You really get awful tired of doing nothing and long to associate with people and get some limited exercise. I can golf now only if I can take the cart to the ball if its to far away or around small hills. My option is no golf or giving it a try and using the cart to get to my ball if it exceeds my knee limits. Believe me I wish I could walk the whole course or run to my ball no matter where it is but I can't even come close. I have an Apt for knee replacement scheduled ( 1 month) then scheduling the surgery (3,4 ? months) then the recovery. Its a long hall. I think people should be thankful they don't have to take the cart to the ball and not judge those that do. Someday you just might be in the same situation and BTW I can tell you getting older doesn't improve your mobility and you will be amazed how things that were simple to do even 5 years ago become a challenge. I'm thankful I'm still here to do what I can do. Oh and while this thing called "aging" is happening and your loosing mobility, running down to the DMV between Dr visits for a handicap pass to play golf takes a mind set change that isn't as easy as it might seem or a even real priority compared to the issues and real decisions your facing.

Tmarkwald
03-23-2021, 10:40 AM
How can you look and tell if a person is handicapped

Well, if they park in the Pro Pickup lane at Lowe's and come out carrying drywall....