Had our Covid Vaccinations yesterday.

[Two Bills]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill

[Bay Kid]

Good luck. Keep us in the loop.

[JohnN]

Great

[Two Bills]

Good luck. Keep us in the loop.

Will update daily as to progress and any reactions.

[billethkid]

Thanks for sharing your experience(s).

[Velvet]

So glad for you guys! And nice to know what to really expect from vaccination, no manipulative twisting etc by the media. You and your wife were brave to get the vaccine. Whatever people say, it takes guts. So 28 days and then.... freedom! To do whatever you want to again. Can’t wait till hubby and I get the same chance.

[Stu from NYC]

Thanks so much for sharing. Stay safe

[Two Bills]

So glad for you guys! And nice to know what to really expect from vaccination, no manipulative twisting etc by the media. You and your wife were brave to get the vaccine. Whatever people say, it takes guts. So 28 days and then.... freedom! To do whatever you want to again. Can’t wait till hubby and I get the same chance.

Thank you, but to us it was not brave, just daft not to take it.
In our 80's among the most vulnerable, it's a no brainer.
Still a small % chance when final immunity kicks in, but that is a whole better than our survival chances at the moment.
Not worried about any long term effects, if any, just want our remaining years with some normality.
Don't think we will be able to do as want for some time, as the restriction will still be in place for some time, as the numbers to be innoculated are so large!

Stay safe.
Bill.

[jimjamuser]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill
That wife is a keeper.

[Two Bills]

That wife is a keeper.

She is my life!

[graciegirl]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill

I cannot tell you how much we appreciated this clear answer to what we have been hoping for. We two are the same age as you and I truly understand the heightened risk. I shared this post on Facebook and many of our friends there thanked you as well. It is so good to get first hand information. Please continue to share with us.

[Aloha1]

Well done, Sir.

[La lamy]

Congrats and all the best to you both. :coolsmiley:

[Two Bills]

Day two

My wife has still not had any reaction to the vaccination, which shows that not only is it an effective vaccine, it is also a very smart vaccine!!

I had a bad day yesterday regarding energy levels.
After any exertion would have to sit down to rest. It was not pleasant, but nothing that could cause any concern, as it was one of the post innoculation side effect we were warned about.
I am greatly improved this morning, still a bit 'wooly headed' (new medical condition!) but energy levels a lot higher than yesterday.
I have a slight stiffness in the arm where they innoculated, but it is easily ignored, and at moment not even a issue.

I had a full knee replacement 8-9 weeks ago, and yesterday was the first time I missed doing my exercises.
I have worked through them this morning with only one rest, but I only managed half the squats
I will do more later!
Definitely much improved today.

The only conratadiction I have spotted in my OP. is when the vaccine will be at its most effective after second innoculation.
Our NHS website says 'It takes a few weeks after getting the 2nd dose for it to work,' yet we were told verbally at the medical centre 7 days after the second jab.
This information was from a nursing auxiliary, so think they were giving advice above their pay grade.
Please ignore the 7 days after second injection for immunity from opening post.

Keep safe.
Bill.

[JudyLife]

That’s good to hear. We are from the UK also (Hertfordshire) but here in TV until end of Jan. Hoping on our return we may move further up the queue as we are in the late 60’s age group.

[virtualcynthia]

Thank you very much for sharing. It’s great to hear it from a non-media, non- political, non-marketing person.

[Spalumbos62]

I dont think it's 28 days then freedom...I understand it to be 28days(then 7 days waiting) and then You will be safe but you can still get the germ,carry the germ,share the germ... but not get sick from the germ..... so still mask up and social dist ance... for awhile... this is what Fauci is saying .

[RedChariot]

Does anyone believe the implementation here in the USA will go as smoothly as OP describes? Especially here in The Villages where the majority of the population will be seeking the vaccine.

[Stu from NYC]

Does anyone believe the implementation here in the USA will go as smoothly as OP describes? Especially here in The Villages where the majority of the population will be seeking the vaccine.

Sure hope so, very impressed with the fellow running the logistics

[jebartle]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill

You are sooooo funny!!!

[DonnaNi4os]

Thank you for sharing your experience. Hope you are able to safely travel soon

[OhioBuckeye]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill

Thanks for sharing this experience. Looking forward to getting ours when we can, we’re both 71 yrs. old.

[bp243]

Who set up the appointment for your shots?

[justjim]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill

Sounds like the UK has it together. Let’s hope the “roll out” here in the US is similar.

[eddie888]

Bill, can you tell me your age please. I hear more reactions with older people

[Two Bills]

Who set up the appointment for your shots?

All our local Medical Centres are coordinating the roll out in our area.
We are blessed to live in a very rural village in the Cotswolds, so do not have the same problems that the major cities are going to have.
We have an 89 year old friend in a nursing home in a large town, and as of yesterday she had not even been notified when she will be done.
It is a logistical nightmare, and I am sure our experience, will not be the norm in the highly populated areas.

[Two Bills]

Bill, can you tell me your age please. I hear more reactions with older people

I am 81 and I am not allowed to divulge my wifes age, but, she is three years older than me!
I am a Toy Boy!:icon_wink:

[kenoc7]

So glad for you guys! And nice to know what to really expect from vaccination, no manipulative twisting etc by the media. You and your wife were brave to get the vaccine. Whatever people say, it takes guts. So 28 days and then.... freedom! To do whatever you want to again. Can’t wait till hubby and I get the same chance.
It doesn't take guts to get the vaccine. It takes common sense. Anyone who is against getting it IMO is insane.

[graciegirl]

I dont think it's 28 days then freedom...I understand it to be 28days(then 7 days waiting) and then You will be safe but you can still get the germ,carry the germ,share the germ... but not get sick from the germ..... so still mask up and social dist ance... for awhile... this is what Fauci is saying .

JUST a few more Days. NOT LONG NOW. I am so happy and cannot wait to hear how this will happen here. I am GUESSING it will be at the polo field where people can drive up in their golf carts? Like the original testing?

[graciegirl]

I am 81 and I am not allowed to divulge my wifes age, but, she is three years older than me!
I am a Toy Boy!:icon_wink:

I too am 81 and this remarkable fellow I have shared my life with is one year younger. I took him to raise. ;)

[Two Bills]

Here is a link to the UK. NHS site. This is our main source of information.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine - NHS (https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/)

[Boomer]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill


Hello, Two Bills, and thank you, thank you for sharing your experience with being among the first to get the vaccine.

What you are doing with your updates is highly meaningful for many of us.

You are kindly providing us with a primary source. Primary sources are my favorite kind of source. There is nothing to compare with being able to read someone’s own words, written in a historic time.

I keep checking in for your latest update.

Boomer :)

[Lynnesail]

Does anyone know when the vaccinations will be available here? Who will qualify?

[Barborv]

First, let me say thank you for your first hand experience. It is a topic of conversation whoever you talk to as to whether you will take the vaccine or wait or not take it at all. My question is, since the vaccine is 90-95% effective, were you advised to still wear a mask in public after the second booster (give or take a month after booster). Since there is still a 5-10% chance that one can still get the virus, and that so many people are getting infected each day, that there is still a risk although quite low? Do we need to wait till most of the population get vaccinated and the Covid cases drop to very low numbers to totally get rid of our masks? so many questions unknown.

[Two Bills]

First, let me say thank you for your first hand experience. It is a topic of conversation whoever you talk to as to whether you will take the vaccine or wait or not take it at all. My question is, since the vaccine is 90-95% effective, were you advised to still wear a mask in public after the second booster (give or take a month after booster). Since there is still a 5-10% chance that one can still get the virus, and that so many people are getting infected each day, that there is still a risk although quite low? Do we need to wait till most of the population get vaccinated and the Covid cases drop to very low numbers to totally get rid of our masks? so many questions unknown.

We havn't been notified anything regarding that question.
We will obviously feel a lot more confident in public, and certainl travel again if permitted, but we will have to still follow relevant guidlines I would assume.

[coffeebean]

I dont think it's 28 days then freedom...I understand it to be 28days(then 7 days waiting) and then You will be safe but you can still get the germ,carry the germ,share the germ... but not get sick from the germ..... so still mask up and social dist ance... for awhile... this is what Fauci is saying .

Our community will be eligible for the vaccine in around the same time frame. Anyone who is an anti-vaxxer, will not be protected by me because I will NOT wear a mask once I am immune. I'm not about to worry about protecting an anti-vaxxer when they refuse to protect themselves. Anyone who is unable to receive the vaccine will just have to continue to protect themselves by social distancing themselves from others.

[dadoiron]

Yeah 👍

[Two Bills]

Day three.

My wife continues to show no sypmtoms, which is great, and means at least one of us is available to make a cup of tea!
I seem to have gone back a stage after feeling a lot better yesterday.
I am as drained out as the first day. No pains or other side effects, just totaly lethargic.
However, the advice sheet says this after effect can last up to a week, so I am not concerned.
The slight pain in the injection arm has disappeared completely, and is no longer an issue.
Stay well.
Bill.

[davem4616]

Day three.

My wife continues to show no sypmtoms, which is great, and means at least one of us is available to make a cup of tea!
I seem to have gone back a stage after feeling a lot better yesterday.
I am as drained out as the first day. No pains or other side effects, just totaly lethargic.
However, the advice sheet says this after effect can last up to a week, so I am not concerned.
The slight pain in the injection arm has disappeared completely, and is no longer an issue.
Stay well.
Bill.

Thank you for keeping us all in the loop...be well

[billethkid]

If need be The Villages already knows how to organize the total population just like they do elections and flu shot distribution in years past.

[oldtimes]

Any new updates?

[JoMar]

I have been told that those in UK are better at following the advice of the medical community then the US. I suspect the majority of their population will be vaccinated and a higher percentage of the population will help defeating the virus and protecting their family and friends and neighbors. A little different here, as an earlier poster stated he is out to infect those that do not believe as he does and will not participate in helping others.

[Two Bills]

Final update.

Sorry for not updating, but I have not been online recently due to other circumstances

My lovely wife is still without any symptoms,and at this stage is unlikely to have any at all.
I am now back to pre vaccinaion strength, and felt fine after 6 days.

After the last update I had to go into hospital for a pre-arranged test. NOT COVID RELATED!

The night I was admitted, my wife was alone in our home when some scumbags tried to break in.
Thankfully our glass is super strong and although they tried to smash two of our large patio door windows they never got in.
Wife was, and still is of course traumatised, but we have family nearby, who were here even before the police, which in UK is not difficult!
We are quite rural, and probably had a false sense of security.
Not now, and we are at present installing many security updates.
That is why I did not continue to update.

Happy Christmas to you all.

Stay safe.
Bill.

[oldtimes]

Final update.

Sorry for not updating, but I have not been online recently due to other circumstances

My lovely wife is still without any symptoms,and at this stage is unlikely to have any at all.
I am now back to pre vaccinaion strength, and felt fine after 6 days.

After the last update I had to go into hospital for a pre-arranged test. NOT COVID RELATED!

The night I was admitted, my wife was alone in our home when some scumbags tried to break in.
Thankfully our glass is super strong and although they tried to smash two of our large patio door windows they never got in.
Wife was, and still is of course traumatised, but we have family nearby, who were here even before the police, which in UK is not difficult!
We are quite rural, and probably had a false sense of security.
Not now, and we are at present installing many security updates.
That is why I did not continue to update.

Happy Christmas to you all.

Stay safe.
Bill.

So sorry to hear this. Your updates have been very helpful. Hope you have a Merry Christmas in spite of it.

[Boomer]

Good morning,Two Bills,

Thank you for the update. (I have been checking up on you each morning. :)) I am glad to know you are back to normal strength.

I am so sorry that your wife had to go through such a horrible scare.

I wish a good Christmas and a peaceful Happy New Year to both of you.

Boomer

[billethkid]

Two Bills....slightly off the topic but related;

would you care to put a perspective on the so called mutant virus that (according to some of our news sources) is allegedly shutting down the UK?

[jimjamuser]

I dont think it's 28 days then freedom...I understand it to be 28days(then 7 days waiting) and then You will be safe but you can still get the germ,carry the germ,share the germ... but not get sick from the germ..... so still mask up and social dist ance... for awhile... this is what Fauci is saying .
As I understand it, there is research going on right now to determine IF (?) you can "spread the germ" after the 2nd shot and some time period. It is just not known right now. So, to be HUMANE to others, you should continue with the masking and distancing. Problem is we live in a very selfish world and I DOUBT that many people WILL keep wearing the mask. That is where government SHOULD (?) step in and mandate it for everyone's safety. That is the main purpose of government.

Also IF (?) over 30% of the people do NOT take the vaccine, then the COVID-19 will remain with us for all time. That would require that masking and all the other problems would NEVER go away. That would NOT be a good future. That future would not "be so bright that anyone would have to wear sunglasses"! To me, there are MANY as yet UNRESOLVED issues.

[jimjamuser]

JUST a few more Days. NOT LONG NOW. I am so happy and cannot wait to hear how this will happen here. I am GUESSING it will be at the polo field where people can drive up in their golf carts? Like the original testing?
They can't give a vaccine to you at a "Polo Field". You have to be INSIDE a medical facility in case you have a bad reaction and need treatment and the equipment to save you (if necessary). I believe that it is being given under an "emergency use" classification because it is SO new. And the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have NEVER been given to large populations before. That is why safety precautions MUST be taken.

[jimjamuser]

Final update.

Sorry for not updating, but I have not been online recently due to other circumstances

My lovely wife is still without any symptoms,and at this stage is unlikely to have any at all.
I am now back to pre vaccinaion strength, and felt fine after 6 days.

After the last update I had to go into hospital for a pre-arranged test. NOT COVID RELATED!

The night I was admitted, my wife was alone in our home when some scumbags tried to break in.
Thankfully our glass is super strong and although they tried to smash two of our large patio door windows they never got in.
Wife was, and still is of course traumatised, but we have family nearby, who were here even before the police, which in UK is not difficult!
We are quite rural, and probably had a false sense of security.
Not now, and we are at present installing many security updates.
That is why I did not continue to update.

Happy Christmas to you all.

Stay safe.
Bill.
Thank you for your reporting. My advice about breaking in - get 3 large dogs - for inside and outside.

[Two Bills]

Two Bills....slightly off the topic but related;

would you care to put a perspective on the so called mutant virus that (according to some of our news sources) is allegedly shutting down the UK?

My post was basicaly about how we felt after vaccination.
Here is a link to a BBC article regarding mutation.
Subject is way above my pay grade.



Covid: New variant found ‘due to hard work of UK scientists’ - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55413666)


Covid-19: UK-France services return as travel ban eased - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55420193)

[coffeebean]

As I understand it, there is research going on right now to determine IF (?) you can "spread the germ" after the 2nd shot and some time period. It is just not known right now. So, to be HUMANE to others, you should continue with the masking and distancing. Problem is we live in a very selfish world and I DOUBT that many people WILL keep wearing the mask. That is where government SHOULD (?) step in and mandate it for everyone's safety. That is the main purpose of government.

Also IF (?) over 30% of the people do NOT take the vaccine, then the COVID-19 will remain with us for all time. That would require that masking and all the other problems would NEVER go away. That would NOT be a good future. That future would not "be so bright that anyone would have to wear sunglasses"! To me, there are MANY as yet UNRESOLVED issues.

I guess you would consider me one of those "selfish people". I've been a huge propoent of mask wearing and social distancing since this pandemic began back in early March. My stance remains that once I am immune after receive my second shot and waiting the proper amount of time for my immunity to kick in, I will not wear a mask anymore. I refuse to protect anti-vaxxers who do not take the small risk that I will take when I get vaccinated. The anti-vaxxers will just have to protect themselves in any way they can.

To those who can not take the vaccine for medical reasons, I'm sorry but I still will not protect you by wearing a mask. That you will have to do on your own. You will just have to continue to wear a mask, stay away from crowds and keep your distance from others. Also, do not touch your face and wash your hands frequently.

[thelegges]

I guess you would consider me one of those "selfish people". I've been a huge propoent of mask wearing and social distancing since this pandemic began back in early March. My stance remains that once I am immune after receive my second shot and waiting the proper amount of time for my immunity to kick in, I will not wear a mask anymore. I refuse to protect anti-vaxxers who do not take the small risk that I will take when I get vaccinated. The anti-vaxxers will just have to protect themselves in any way they can.

To those who can not take the vaccine for medical reasons, I'm sorry but I still will not protect you by wearing a mask. That you will have to do on your own. You will just have to continue to wear a mask, stay away from crowds and keep your distance from others. Also, do not touch your face and wash your hands frequently.

If you have been vaccinated, at say 94% effective, why would you need to protect those not wearing a mask. If you believe in the science, you would be protected from getting Covid, and or giving it. So why worry about what others are doing if science to protecting you.
The percentage of medical personnel that are not getting the vaccine is much larger than you realize.

[coffeebean]

If you have been vaccinated, at say 94% effective, why would you need to protect those not wearing a mask. If you believe in the science, you would be protected from getting Covid, and or giving it. So why worry about what others are doing if science to protecting you.
The percentage of medical personnel that are not getting the vaccine is much larger than you realize.

Science is not sure about that yet from what I have seen and heard from news sources.

[Byte1]

Thank you for your reporting. My advice about breaking in - get 3 large dogs - for inside and outside.

Cheaper to have one alarm system and a big gun.

[stanley]

Cheaper to have one alarm system and a big gun.

Too bad it's the UK

[jimjamuser]

If you have been vaccinated, at say 94% effective, why would you need to protect those not wearing a mask. If you believe in the science, you would be protected from getting Covid, and or giving it. So why worry about what others are doing if science to protecting you.
The percentage of medical personnel that are not getting the vaccine is much larger than you realize.
This CV is called a novel CV, meaning it is new and that newness brings with it risks of the unknown. As is known right now, getting the vaccine protects you from catastrophic bad hospitalization (and death) from CV. It does NOT guarantee forever immunity. It guarantees SOME immunity for SOME period of time (3 months, 1 year, 2 years), which is not known at this time. Another UNKNOWN is after 2 doses and a time period, can you STILL give the CV to another person? it is logical that you can't, but STILL unknown. They are researching that now. Until they have that ANSWER - the medical experts are advising people to CONTINUE to wear a mask and stay apart andnot indoors. This is for the group good, the humanitarian good!

[JoMar]

If you have been vaccinated, at say 94% effective, why would you need to protect those not wearing a mask. If you believe in the science, you would be protected from getting Covid, and or giving it. So why worry about what others are doing if science to protecting you.
The percentage of medical personnel that are not getting the vaccine is much larger than you realize.

I understand it will protect you from getting the symptoms but the virus could still be your system and you could pass it on. I hope there are enough that get vaccinated and they will still try to help friends and neighbors and family, but I doubt it. In addition they don't have a clue on how long you will be protected, one month, one year, forever? Not sure how many remember the polio vaccine, it was mandated and polio was defeated. Since it is no longer required there are smatterings of it returning.

[graciegirl]

Science is not sure about that yet from what I have seen and heard from news sources.

Yes, Science is sure about the fact that Pfizer, Moderna and Biontech Vaccines are 94% effective. YES they are. Go please and Google, Bing and investigate everything.

Are Covid-19 Vaccines Really 95% Effective? - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/health/covid-vaccine-95-effective.html)

[jimjamuser]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1877005]Yes, Science is sure about the fact that Pfizer, Moderna and Biontech Vaccines are 94% effective. YES they are. Go please and Google, Bing and investigate everything.

Are Covid-19 Vaccines Really 95% Effective? - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/health/covid-vaccine-95-effective.html)[/QUOTE
Yes but also no. Coffee Bean, JoMar, and myself are talking about "passing it on". Even AFTER you yourself are protected, you could possibly (?) be spreading it. They are researching that part right now.

[coffeebean]

Yes, Science is sure about the fact that Pfizer, Moderna and Biontech Vaccines are 94% effective. YES they are. Go please and Google, Bing and investigate everything.

Are Covid-19 Vaccines Really 95% Effective? - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/health/covid-vaccine-95-effective.html)

Gracie....I wasn't questioning the efficacy of the vaccines. My comment was directed to another poster about whether a vaccinated person can still pass on the virus. Again, my response is the same.......science does not know yet if a vaccinated person can still transmit the virus to others.

[Love2Swim]

I understand it will protect you from getting the symptoms but the virus could still be your system and you could pass it on. I hope there are enough that get vaccinated and they will still try to help friends and neighbors and family, but I doubt it. In addition they don't have a clue on how long you will be protected, one month, one year, forever? Not sure how many remember the polio vaccine, it was mandated and polio was defeated. Since it is no longer required there are smatterings of it returning.

:bigbow:

[MandoMan]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill

My (now) 80 year old landlord from when I was at Oxford almost 40 years ago got his this week, too. His passion is ringing church bells (change ringing) all over the U.K., and he says it just isn’t the same being alone in a belfry and trying to ring in a pattern with other ringers using zoom. Listeners from outside hear only one bell. He hears eight, but over his iPad. He’s a widower, and he is so lonely.

[xcaligirl]

Wife and I had our Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine injections in UK yesterday evening.

For a first day mass programme roll out, all was well run. We were given a time for our injections, (5pm.) and told to arrive no earlier than 10 minutes before.
Report, fill in forms, sign to agree to injection, then after another short wait, vaccinated, and all within (bar 7 minutes) of our alloted time.
Most impressed.
You then went too a monitoring area for a 15 minute wait in case of any immediate reaction, which there wasn't, so drove home. Never saw anyone have reaction.

5 hours after my injection I started to get a cold sweat, and had a complete loss of nearly all my energy. Went to bed, and fell into a deep sleep.
Feel fine this morning, but still a little lethargic, but no other symtoms, so not a problem.
No other reactions, no lumps or inflamation around injection site.

Wife has had no reaction whatsoever, which was to be expected, as no vaccine or virus in its right mind, would have the balls to upset her in the first place!:icon_wink:

21 days to booster jab, then after 7 more days, we should have the 90-95% immunity. 28 days in total from first jab.

After nursing homes, carers etc. us over 80's are the first in line, with the age groups working down, plus those with degrees of vulnerability, but with a UK population of over 68,000,000 it is a really major operation!

Keep well.
Bill
Thanks for posting the experience. I'm betting I could be a 'sister' of your wife's! lol

[Byte1]

I am looking forward to my wife getting her vaccination so that she can go back to grocery shopping. She hardly leaves the house, let alone frequents any businesses. I've been the canon fodder... :)