Pool Etiquette Part 2

[La lamy]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!

[Funkman]

Merry Christmas

[retiredguy123]

The rec center manager is the person to complain to. The manager routinely visits the pools and is supposed to enforce the rules. But, some rec centers have several pools within their area of control as well as the rec center building. The pool adjacent to the rec center would most likely be better controlled because that is where the manager's office is located. The manager's supervisor also has an office in the rec center.

[DeanFL]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!
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sorry for your experience - both at the pool and here on ToTV. Bottom line - you have witnessed the a-holes at both places. Some people have no feelings for others. Some people were not taught the Golden Rule. Some people are just plain ignorant. Some people just will not understand nor listen to common sense. And some people are just a-holes. Even on a nice site as ToTV - some people are know-it-alls and simply cannot hold back and make stupid offensive responses. I hope that you don't consider me any of this.... Merry Christmas LaLa,
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[graciegirl]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!

We have a lot of public pools in The Villages. I would just find another one. In all of the years that I/we went to the public ones around here, including the one that was right in back of us in Hadley, and the one in Tall Trees we used up until we built our own, not one person ever played music. The pool behind us in our first home in Hadley had a lot of noisy children sometimes, but since I am a retired Pre-school Teacher that was sort of music to my ears.

All pools in The Villages are open to all people in The Villages. The Priority Pools are the exceptions but there are dozens and dozens of the free to us pools here. It is a little enjoyable ride in a golf cart to most of us to find another pool that doesn't have the annoyance.

[La lamy]

Merry Christmas

You too!

[La lamy]

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sorry for your experience - both at the pool and here on ToTV. Bottom line - you have witnessed the a-holes at both places. Some people have no feelings for others. Some people were not taught the Golden Rule. Some people are just plain ignorant. Some people just will not understand nor listen to common sense. And some people are just a-holes. Even on a nice site as ToTV - some people are know-it-alls and simply cannot hold back and make stupid offensive responses. I hope that you don't consider me any of this.... Merry Christmas LaLa,
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Thanks for your helpful, sensible note. Merry Christmas to you too.

[La lamy]

We have a lot of public pools in The Villages. I would just find another one. In all of the years that I/we went to the public ones around here, including the one that was right in back of us in Hadley, and the one in Tall Trees we used up until we built our own, not one person ever played music. The pool behind us in our first home in Hadley had a lot of noisy children sometimes, but since I am a retired Pre-school Teacher that was sort of music to my ears.

All pools in The Villages are open to all people in The Villages. The Priority Pools are the exceptions but there are dozens and dozens of the free to us pools here. It is a little enjoyable ride in a golf cart to most of us to find another pool that doesn't have the annoyance.

I'm fortunate to not 'need' to swim at this point in my life, so it's really about finding a lounge chair, but thank you for your helpful note, and all the best to you and yours for the holiday season.

[vintageogauge]

The pools are only going to get shall we say less peaceful from now until April or May. Before buying down here we rented in Sunset Pointe for a few winters and they always had music playing and loud conversation. I kind of enjoyed seeing everyone having a good time wishing we could be here full time. Thousands of different personalities down here so we just learn to live with them. If you would read back some of the disgusting things that happen in and around the pools you will realize that loud music is trivial in comparison and you most likely would not want to go back to any of the pools.

[Mortal1]

Take a chill pill.............enjoy the journey.

following the rules is what separates us from all the jerks who could care less about anyone else.

You want someone to chill...how about the clowns who thinks it's their right to foist their sounds on everyone else.

Much easier to tell someone to chill as opposed to doing the right thing right???

[Velvet]

The pools are only going to get shall we say less peaceful from now until April or May. Before buying down here we rented in Sunset Pointe for a few winters and they always had music playing and loud conversation. I kind of enjoyed seeing everyone having a good time wishing we could be here full time. Thousands of different personalities down here so we just learn to live with them. If you would read back some of the disgusting things that happen in and around the pools you will realize that loud music is trivial in comparison and you most likely would not want to go back to any of the pools.

I agree that it is nice to see people having a good time. I just don’t like it when they give me a bad time by making me listen to their lousy choice of music by the pool.

[Stu from NYC]

Have you thought of tripping on his music box letting it fly into the pool?:bigbow:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Take a chill pill.............enjoy the journey.

That's what she was trying to do, but found it difficult with loud music in a place where it is supposedly not allowed to be played.

So she tried to rectify it, by making a request. The person who had the music turned up, turned it down. All would have (and should have) been perfect at that point.

But then, someone who doesn't want HER to take a chill pill or enjoy the journey, chose to make things difficult on purpose.

Perhaps it wouldn't bother you if I had a blow-horn in front of your house, facing your house, while you were trying to eat dinner, and sang off-key Frank Sinatra songs with the wrong words, just because I can.

But it would probably bother other people. So I try to sing on key, for them. The guy in the pool who made a fuss about the music was wrong. He can be wrong in his own home. He is not entitled to be wrong about personal music at the pools.

[Two Bills]

As long as the never play Bing Crosby and 'White Christmas,' or Noddy Holder, with 'So here it is Merry Christmas,' I would suffer in silence!

[Cheapbas]

If anyone wants to listen to music at a public place, earbuds or headphones would be the courteous way to go.

Of course you could blare your favorite band, Tool, next time to get your point across. There’s probably only 2 of us in TV that actually like them, it’s sure to succeed.

[Topspinmo]

I always carry an ear plug and some blinders. I find the views more offense than music 🎼 in most cases :icon_wink:

[golfing eagles]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!

So, once again welcome to America's friendliest hometown

[graciegirl]

That's what she was trying to do, but found it difficult with loud music in a place where it is supposedly not allowed to be played.

So she tried to rectify it, by making a request. The person who had the music turned up, turned it down. All would have (and should have) been perfect at that point.

But then, someone who doesn't want HER to take a chill pill or enjoy the journey, chose to make things difficult on purpose.

Perhaps it wouldn't bother you if I had a blow-horn in front of your house, facing your house, while you were trying to eat dinner, and sang off-key Frank Sinatra songs with the wrong words, just because I can.

But it would probably bother other people. So I try to sing on key, for them. The guy in the pool who made a fuss about the music was wrong. He can be wrong in his own home. He is not entitled to be wrong about personal music at the pools.

The difference in how we, the people of The Villages, handle situations like this is largely geographic. The ones from the East Coast of the U.S. directly speak to the offender, who if he/she is from that part of the world is likely to speak back and likely to say something else that makes the situation no better, and possibly worse. The folks from the middle part of the country do not confront the offender. They either stop going, or move to another pool, because their mothers taught them to hush and not tell other people how to act.

Neither group is really right or wrong. Some people, I will say a lot of people are losing their hearing and come to the pools without their hearers so they aren't offended, the sound is a soft sound to them. Some people enjoy it. Some people have hyperacusis and loud sounds affect them and make them irritable.

I say. Merry Christmas. We have the vaccine that is 94% EFFECTIVE that will soon be available to all of us over 65. That means in essence the Pandemic will be over and we don't have to listen to people saying it is a conspiracy from the Chinese and that we are a bunch of paranoid stupid old people who probably are gonna die soon anyway.

Merry Christmas to you and yours. I hope you have something yummy to eat today and someone to share it with. xoxoxo

[Dgizzi]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!
I totally agree with you! That is why you do see so many people putting in their own pools! Plus I really hate the fact the “family” pools are nicer then adult pool! Seriously! I moved to a 55 and older so I wouldn’t have to deal with kids. We pay for all this stuff, we residents should get the nicer pool. This is not a resort for your grandkids! I’ve seen worse at pools and yes, I don’t care to go to our pools that look like old pools you would see in a YMCA. I might have thought twice about moving here. Adult pools need to be the family pool. Wish I could have my own pool too!

[Dgizzi]

following the rules is what separates us from all the jerks who could care less about anyone else.

You want someone to chill...how about the clowns who thinks it's their right to foist their sounds on everyone else.

Much easier to tell someone to chill as opposed to doing the right thing right???
Yep you are right! I’m so tired of having to be “sensitive “ to other people’s feelings..what about my feelings!

[Bogie Shooter]

I totally agree with you! That is why you do see so many people putting in their own pools! Plus I really hate the fact the “family” pools are nicer then adult pool! Seriously! I moved to a 55 and older so I wouldn’t have to deal with kids. We pay for all this stuff, we residents should get the nicer pool. This is not a resort for your grandkids! I’ve seen worse at pools and yes, I don’t care to go to our pools that look like old pools you would see in a YMCA. I might have thought twice about moving here. Adult pools need to be the family pool. Wish I could have my own pool too!

Unbelievable!

[Funkman]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). !

So are there actually written rules or were the rules you went equipped with, just something "people were saying" are the rules?

[dewilson58]

That's what she was trying to do, but found it difficult with loud music in a place where it is supposedly not allowed to be played. So she tried to rectify it, by making a request. The person who had the music turned up, turned it down. All would have (and should have) been perfect at that point. But then, someone who doesn't want HER to take a chill pill or enjoy the journey, chose to make things difficult on purpose. Perhaps it wouldn't bother you if I had a blow-horn in front of your house, facing your house, while you were trying to eat dinner, and sang off-key Frank Sinatra songs with the wrong words, just because I can. But it would probably bother other people. So I try to sing on key, for them. The guy in the pool who made a fuss about the music was wrong. He can be wrong in his own home. He is not entitled to be wrong about personal music at the pools.
Orange, I understand your point.

But it's Christmas Music.
Merry Christmas.

[retiredguy123]

As long as the never play Bing Crosby and 'White Christmas,' or Noddy Holder, with 'So here it is Merry Christmas,' I would suffer in silence!
So, you're OK with the barking dog "Jingle Bells" song and "Grandma got run over by a Reindeer"?

[Bilyclub]

I totally agree with you! That is why you do see so many people putting in their own pools! Plus I really hate the fact the “family” pools are nicer then adult pool! Seriously! I moved to a 55 and older so I wouldn’t have to deal with kids. We pay for all this stuff, we residents should get the nicer pool. This is not a resort for your grandkids! I’ve seen worse at pools and yes, I don’t care to go to our pools that look like old pools you would see in a YMCA. I might have thought twice about moving here. Adult pools need to be the family pool. Wish I could have my own pool too!

Aren't all the pools South of 466 the same design? Move South of 44 where all the pools are family pools.

[retiredguy123]

Aren't all the pools South of 466 the same design? Move South of 44 where all the pools are family pools.
I think between Rt 44 and Rt 466, the pools at the rec centers are family pools, but the pools at the postal stations are adult pools.

[vintageogauge]

Aren't all the pools South of 466 the same design? Move South of 44 where all the pools are family pools.

There are more adult pools than family pools south of 44. Fenney has one of each plus a sports pool.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The difference in how we, the people of The Villages, handle situations like this is largely geographic. The ones from the East Coast of the U.S. directly speak to the offender, who if he/she is from that part of the world is likely to speak back and likely to say something else that makes the situation no better, and possibly worse. The folks from the middle part of the country do not confront the offender. They either stop going, or move to another pool, because their mothers taught them to hush and not tell other people how to act.

Neither group is really right or wrong. Some people, I will say a lot of people are losing their hearing and come to the pools without their hearers so they aren't offended, the sound is a soft sound to them. Some people enjoy it. Some people have hyperacusis and loud sounds affect them and make them irritable.


I'd love to see where you learned this amazing information that I'd never heard of before in my life, ever. I think my sainted grandmother might have a pinch on your arm for even suggesting such a thing. She always taught us speak until spoken to. I used to get a lot of pinches on my arm for suggesting otherwise.

My mom taught me, if I'm not willing to address a problem, then I have only myself to blame if I continue to be bothered by it. Running away invites bullies to take advantage of you. They know your weakness and they'll exploit it. We have bullies in the Villages. The guy in the pool was one of those bullies. The guy who turned the radio down was an actual civil human being who listened to our member's concern, and chose to do the right thing by turning the radio down.

Killing people with kindness doesn't always work. sometimes you have to enforce rules. That's why rules exist. It isn't for those who are victims of rule violators to say "oh gee, I'll just go somewhere else, carry on." It's for the rule breaker to stop breaking the rules. And anyone who has a problem with that - THEY are the ones who should go somewhere else. If you don't like the rules of the pool, then build your own pool and make your own rule.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Orange, I understand your point.

But it's Christmas Music.
Merry Christmas.

I get enough xmas music foisted on me everywhere I go. Supermarket, Walmart, boutiques, town square, restaurants, even at the postal station there's often someone playing xmas tunes on their golf cart mp3 player, during the season.

I don't need to hear another version of The Little Drummer Boy in a place where loud music is -very specifically- against the rules.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I totally agree with you! That is why you do see so many people putting in their own pools!

A lot of people are putting in their own pools (with us soon to be) because of Covid 19 and this little thing called "fecal shedding".

Fecal Shedding of SARS-CoV-2 Outlasts That of Respiratory Tract - Gastroenterology Advisor (https://www.gastroenterologyadvisor.com/general-gastroenterology/fecal-shedding-of-sars-cov-2-outlasts-that-of-respiratory-tract/)

[Shbullet]

The difference in how we, the people of The Villages, handle situations like this is largely geographic. The ones from the East Coast of the U.S. directly speak to the offender, who if he/she is from that part of the world is likely to speak back and likely to say something else that makes the situation no better, and possibly worse. The folks from the middle part of the country do not confront the offender. They either stop going, or move to another pool, because their mothers taught them to hush and not tell other people how to act.

Neither group is really right or wrong. Some people, I will say a lot of people are losing their hearing and come to the pools without their hearers so they aren't offended, the sound is a soft sound to them. Some people enjoy it. Some people have hyperacusis and loud sounds affect them and make them irritable.

I say. Merry Christmas. We have the vaccine that is 94% EFFECTIVE that will soon be available to all of us over 65. That means in essence the Pandemic will be over and we don't have to listen to people saying it is a conspiracy from the Chinese and that we are a bunch of paranoid stupid old people who probably are gonna die soon anyway.

Merry Christmas to you and yours. I hope you have something yummy to eat today and someone to share it with. xoxoxo

You really must be kidding

[DrPickletickl]

If anyone wants to listen to music at a public place, earbuds or headphones would be the courteous way to go.

Of course you could blare your favorite band, Tool, next time to get your point across. There’s probably only 2 of us in TV that actually like them, it’s sure to succeed.

Tool rules :bigbow:

[Art cov]

I always carry an ear plug and some blinders. I find the views more offense than music 🎼 in most cases :icon_wink:

Lol yes but sometimes the blinders come off for a peekaboo

[GOLFER54]

Next time bring your own boom box with a CD player and blast AC/ DC, I’m sure he’ll get the idea.

[tsmall22204]

Look here is the deal. Ask once, politely to turn the music down and hope he responds, if not, calmly walk over to him and throw the music box over the fence.

[La lamy]

I always carry an ear plug and some blinders. I find the views more offense than music 🎼 in most cases :icon_wink:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[La lamy]

That's what she was trying to do, but found it difficult with loud music in a place where it is supposedly not allowed to be played.

So she tried to rectify it, by making a request. The person who had the music turned up, turned it down. All would have (and should have) been perfect at that point.

But then, someone who doesn't want HER to take a chill pill or enjoy the journey, chose to make things difficult on purpose.

Perhaps it wouldn't bother you if I had a blow-horn in front of your house, facing your house, while you were trying to eat dinner, and sang off-key Frank Sinatra songs with the wrong words, just because I can.

But it would probably bother other people. So I try to sing on key, for them. The guy in the pool who made a fuss about the music was wrong. He can be wrong in his own home. He is not entitled to be wrong about personal music at the pools.

Exactly! :bigbow:

[La lamy]

If anyone wants to listen to music at a public place, earbuds or headphones would be the courteous way to go.

Of course you could blare your favorite band, Tool, next time to get your point across. There’s probably only 2 of us in TV that actually like them, it’s sure to succeed.

Yea Tool would be quite the hit with that crowd. BTW (off topic) I hope to hear some 90s music one of these days at the squares!

[Kgcetm]

Ever think you might be in a remarkable minority?

[Dantes]

There is a phone on the wall at all pools call the police and the district office if he is a visitor he could loss his pass

[timjones]

Ever think you might be in a remarkable minority?

It matters not if OrangeBlossum is in a "remarkable" minority.

The majority has the power to change the rules so their (rude?) behavior conforms. Until then, OrangeBlossum is absolutely right even if she is a minority of one.

Implicitly or explicitly, everyone agreed to the rules of pool use. Ignoring the rules when it is known to offend the rights of others is wrong by any measure.

[gwenhwalker@yahoo.com]

Earplugs

[ts12755]

Don't go there if your primary reason is to sun. Sounds like your backyard is the right place for you.

[Rosebud1949]

Your comments and experience at the pool, follows into normal life. Which is why we have 18 million Covid infections and more than 3 hundred thousand deaths. Many people do not care about anyone but themselves. Very sad reflection of the times the rest of us live ( or try to) live in.


So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

There is a large group of regulars at the Southside pool and they enjoy the music being played.

So I guess the question becomes do they enforce the rules or do they allow the majority to rule?

[timjones]

Don't go there if your primary reason is to sun. Sounds like your backyard is the right place for you.
She can catch rays most any place. She chooses the pool which is her right, and it ought not be circumscribed.
I'm sure she has her reasons for choosing the pool, which are not my, or anyone else's, business.
My guess is she only enhances the beauty around the pool, which may harm the self-esteem of those that feel inadequate by comparison but that's their problem.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Yea Tool would be quite the hit with that crowd. BTW (off topic) I hope to hear some 90s music one of these days at the squares!

Hopefully I'll be dead and gone when they start playing 90s music at the squares. Unfortunately that is not the case in that some contemporary does get played.

The average age here in The Villages is about 68. The majority of people of that age prefer the music of the sixties. When the 90s generation gets to be 68 years old, I would expect that 90s music will be the norm.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

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sorry for your experience - both at the pool and here on ToTV. Bottom line - you have witnessed the a-holes at both places. Some people have no feelings for others. Some people were not taught the Golden Rule. Some people are just plain ignorant. Some people just will not understand nor listen to common sense. And some people are just a-holes. Even on a nice site as ToTV - some people are know-it-alls and simply cannot hold back and make stupid offensive responses. I hope that you don't consider me any of this.... Merry Christmas LaLa,
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So if there are thirty people at the pool and 29 are enjoying the music, they are a-holes because one person doesn't like it?

I understand what the rule is, but where is the common sense?

[Captainpd]

It's not necessary to repost the original post. We all are capable of remembering it. That's way worse than the music

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

I agree
With all the pools we have why not find one to your liking. It's like people who go to family pools and complain about the children playing, splashing and making noice. Hello...we have what are considered adult pools go there instead. Remember sports pools are for residents only.

[edandroe]

Most people like music as long as it’s not to loud.

[Bogie Shooter]

It's not necessary to repost the original post. We all are capable of remembering it. That's way worse than the music

It usually helps to quote the post that your commenting on........

[Funkman]

So are there actually written rules or were the rules you went equipped with, just something "people were saying" are the rules?I was hoping to get an answer to this as it would certainly go a long way towards clearing some questions up.

Are there actual rules for bringing and playing music at the pools?

If it's just a question of the music being too loud? Does it only apply to music brought in from outside? Can the 'piped in' music be changed by those at the pools or is it controlled remotely?

I've been toying with the idea of trying to put together pool 'listening parties' of various shows/artists, so any help with these questions would be appreciated.

From what I've been able to dig up for actual rules, there's a lot of unanswered questions and I'd like to have my ducks in a row before bringing it up to those who would ultimately have the final word.

Thanks in advance for any assistance

[DIver0258]

If anyone wants to listen to music at a public place, earbuds or headphones would be the courteous way to go.

Of course you could blare your favorite band, Tool, next time to get your point across. There’s probably only 2 of us in TV that actually like them, it’s sure to succeed.

Hmmm would a little Five Finger Death Punch be the answer here? I am probably one of the few here that like their music. We are fortunate enough to have our own pool. I still listen with head phones as I’m sure my neighbors aren’t fans. Merry Christmas, take the road less traveled, iron sharpens iron, don’t dwell on the negative, I just move on, mama always said you reap what you sow. Mr. Or Miss J Q A$$h0lis will receive payment in kind down the road 10 fold!

[Megabates]

what is a priority pool ?

[CFrance]

So, you're OK with the barking dog "Jingle Bells" song and "Grandma got run over by a Reindeer"?
Thank you so much. I just got that Grandma/reindeer song out of my head two days ago!


As for me and Grandpa, we believe...

[Johnsocat]

So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way.
I'm thinking you got your way, so if the shoe fits...

[CFrance]

It's not necessary to repost the original post. We all are capable of remembering it. That's way worse than the music
You don't have to read the repost; just skip to the comment. Even Admin has come on here recently asking people to quote the post they are commenting on. It can get quite confusing when your post doesn't show up right under the post you're referring to.


It's a common courtesy, and apparently an Admin preference.

[Luisa]

I think it was great he was playing Christmas music. Pools are for fun. I expect people and noise. They are not libraries. Music is up lifting. It doesn’t need to be excessively loud. It is better to have a type of music that is enjoyed by most people. Christmas music is enjoyed by most people. If most people didn’t enjoy music, they wouldn’t have it in the squares.

[Marine1974]

Sorry to hear you ran into selfish people . Good for you for checking and then asking them to abide by the rules . We must consider the source of people who lash out at us when were in the right to make a complaint to them about their inconsiderate and rude behavior of breaking the rules . Ear phones is still an option for them . Loud music on golf courses is also becoming more frequent as well .

[rustyp]

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[Johnsocat]

It matters not if OrangeBlossum is in a "remarkable" minority.

The majority has the power to change the rules so their (rude?) behavior conforms. Until then, OrangeBlossum is absolutely right even if she is a minority of one.

Implicitly or explicitly, everyone agreed to the rules of pool use. Ignoring the rules when it is known to offend the rights of others is wrong by any measure.
There is nothing in the "guidelines" posted on district.gov about music. Care to share the location of the "rules" we all signed up for?

[timjones]

There is nothing in the "guidelines" posted on district.gov about music. Care to share the location of the "rules" we all signed up for?

OrangeBlossum earlier in this thread posted the citation which applies, and upon which my comment relies.

[Luisa]

So are there actually written rules or were the rules you went equipped with, just something "people were saying" are the rules?

That is my question.

[024engine]

Why should visitors have a say??

[Funkman]

OrangeBlossum earlier in this thread posted the citation which applies, and upon which my comment relies.

I can't seem to find that citation in this thread, could you point me towards it please?

What I see seems to be people merely assuming what the rules are with no actual proof that they are actually legit rules.

[Red Rose]

Why should you leave your neighborhood pool to go to another pool when someone else is breaking the rules?

[PugMom]

If anyone wants to listen to music at a public place, earbuds or headphones would be the courteous way to go.

Of course you could blare your favorite band, Tool, next time to get your point across. There’s probably only 2 of us in TV that actually like them, it’s sure to succeed.

i HAD to respond--YES! i love Tool, even though i am female & not supposed to. *they also have the best videos. :coolsmiley:

[Boomer]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!


There is a bigger picture here. You and the guy playing the music had worked things out in a nice way.

There are lots of gentlemen in TV.

BUT — the loudmouth in the pool could not keep out of it. That windbag was a cliche.

Those types go around in a state of seething anger. (whether they realize it or not) They are easily triggered by just about anything that gives them a place to vent that anger.

Those cliches — like the interfering, yelling one in the pool — stupidly, and automatically, confuse bullying with manliness, which is ironic (and telling) because adult bullies suffer from deep insecurity about their own manhood.

These types especially like to run their ignorant mouths at women and if they feel like they have an audience of their own kind, they really like that.

Boomer

PS and btw: I think inflicting one’s personal taste in music on everyone within hearing distance in a public place is obnoxious, arrogant, and just plain rude. But there are those who just don’t know any better or are thoughtless or it could be a pathetic bid for attention. AirPods or earbuds are the mannerly answer. But for some reason, they don’t think or care about that.

[timjones]

I can't seem to find that citation in this thread, could you point me towards it please?

What I see seems to be people merely assuming what the rules are with no actual proof that they are actually legit rules.

My errors.

All my references in this post to OrangeBlossum should have been to the op - La lamy

Funkman, you are correct the op (La lamy) only noted she looked up the rules but did not specify much detail. I have observed many of her other posts over time that have been based on truth, so I trust La lamy's posts implicitly. But I too share your hunger for more details,

[Funkman]

PS and btw: I think inflicting one’s personal taste in music on everyone within hearing distance in a public place is obnoxious, arrogant, and just plain rude. But there are those who just don’t know any better or are thoughtless or it could be a pathetic bid for attention. AirPods or earbuds are the mannerly answer. But for some reason, they don’t think or care about that.But is it really anymore "obnoxious, arrogant, and just plain rude" than subjecting those within hearing distance of say, one's medical problems or other personal issues?

It's a double edged sword

[Funkman]

My errors.

All my references in this post to OrangeBlossum should have been to the op - La lamy

Funkman, you are correct the op (La lamy) only noted she looked up the rules but did not specify much detail. I have observed many of her other posts over time that have been based on truth, so I trust La lamy's posts implicitly. But I too share your hunger for more details,
Yeah, all I'm looking for are definitive answers.

I did email the VCDD in hopes of getting them, now we wait.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

There is a large group of regulars at the Southside pool and they enjoy the music being played.

So I guess the question becomes do they enforce the rules or do they allow the majority to rule?

If majority overrides the rules, then you need to either change the rules, or accept that you failed in enforcing them.

I know most people would love to not have to stop at every single stop sign, come to a complete and full stop. But most people also will obey the rules, most of the time, because they know there are consequences if they are caught disobeying them.

Enforcement doesn't mean someone has to watch you 24/7. It just means you acknowledge that IF a fuss is made, YOU will be the one with the consequences.

That's is why the person in the pool needed to just let it go, and accept a lower volume on someone ELSE's radio. Because if the guy in the pool is making a fuss and insulting a person who also pays amenity fees, and chooses to abide by the rules, then it's the guy in the pool who needs to be shown the gate out of the pool area.

Even if she is a minority of one. The rules were made to ensure a peaceful enjoyable visit to anyone authorized to be there. It's also why splashing and play-fights are also not allowed. It's also why people under 30 are not allowed in the adult pools.

[Bogie Shooter]

I was hoping to get an answer to this as it would certainly go a long way towards clearing some questions up.

Are there actual rules for bringing and playing music at the pools?

If it's just a question of the music being too loud? Does it only apply to music brought in from outside? Can the 'piped in' music be changed by those at the pools or is it controlled remotely?

I've been toying with the idea of trying to put together pool 'listening parties' of various shows/artists, so any help with these questions would be appreciated.

From what I've been able to dig up for actual rules, there's a lot of unanswered questions and I'd like to have my ducks in a row before bringing it up to those who would ultimately have the final word.

Thanks in advance for any assistance

Have you contacted the rec department?

[Funkman]

Have you contacted the rec department?Thanks, I contacted the CDD, is the rec dept. a different entity? And if so, do you have any idea which would be the final authority on the subject?

[Topspinmo]

Next time bring your own boom box with a CD player and blast AC/ DC, I’m sure he’ll get the idea.


All right I’m big fan of AC/DC. :clap2:

[Topspinmo]

Why should visitors have a say??


And probably didn't have ID?

[Funkman]

All right I’m big fan of AC/DC. :clap2:For those about to rock...













please do it quietly, away from the pool :jester:

[Bilyclub]

The prior thread for reference: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/rec-pool-etiquette-313519/

[Bogie Shooter]

Thanks, I contacted the CDD, is the rec dept. a different entity? And if so, do you have any idea which would be the final authority on the subject?
Rec dept. can answer that question.

Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org)

[cafw1]

I agree with all the people who said that the rules must be enforced. I was most amazed that a ''visitor'' had the audacity to be that rude to an owner who pays so "the visitor" can use the pool free of charge!! The other guy turned it down so he must have know the rules--but he could have avoided the problem in the first place by not bringing the music into the pool area. Some people ''just don't get it" and have to be told and penalized in a way that they can understand. It's your pool---enjoy it.

[Boomer]

But is it really anymore "obnoxious, arrogant, and just plain rude" than subjecting those within hearing distance of say, one's medical problems or other personal issues?

It's a double edged sword



Of course, there are those who bray on and on loud enough for everybody to hear, not just their friends. There are also those who blather away, at the top of their lungs, on their cells.

Those AirPods or earbuds work both ways, not only allowing your personal music choices to be kept to yourself but also to block out anything you don’t want to hear.

The fact that those situations exist does not give license to somebody to inflict their music on everybody else at a pool.

(By the way, you quoted me out of context, missed my analysis of the other character in this vignette of life in TV.)

And now for a little history lesson to underline my point about having nice manners:

Remember how the Army drove the dictator Noriega out of hiding? If you don’t know, look it up — psychological warfare — and if you keep looking, you will even find the playlist the military chose. But pleeeeeeese do not download it and take it to the pool.

Boomer

[jimjamuser]

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!
I have several comments. 1st - that I find that many people in TV Land are hard of hearing. Not everyone, so we ALL have different sensitivity to loud noise. But, the overall trend is toward loudness. 2nd - type of music - hard rock, mellow rock, vocal jazz, instrumental, and classical to name a few - most people would probably be satisfied with a variety, but some would not be pleased. I, personally, would NOT like a steady diet of extremely hard rock or rap. And if I were reading while I was at the pool, it would be distracting to me because as I get older it is harder to concentrate and focus. 3rd - my most likely solution would be to bring my best noise-suppressing ear defenders with me and wear that - or a headset. While also moving as far away as possible from the music source. I would prefer no music to excessively loud music. 4th - people tend to form into cliques at the pools - the man in the pool probably had gotten used to the man playing his music loudly - so, he felt that he represented some group that was offended by your request to lower the volume. 5th - the man playing the music did the conscientious thing by lowering his volume. 6th - I feel that you did the right thing - you have paid your amenities fee and took the time to determine the rules. you are the one deserving to go there for sun, swimming, and socialization. So, please do NOT stop going there, do NOT allow the PUSHY types to dominate that or any other social activity in TV Land. Those types are everywhere in TV Land and elsewhere. They all need to be pushed back against because they can dominate and ruin many situations. I have observed many such situations get downgraded at clubs and sports activities. Many people at the pool will agree with you. They may be just staying silent and taking it. 7th and lastly (finally) - the last time I went to a pool was in March at the beginning of the US health problem. And I loved the pools. I loved to swim, read, socialize, and just people watch (such curious animals). It was often the high point of a particular day for me! Sadly, I felt compelled to avoid the pools for personal safety reasons. Good luck with your quest - it IS an important and noble one - not at all insignificant.

[jimjamuser]

As long as the never play Bing Crosby and 'White Christmas,' or Noddy Holder, with 'So here it is Merry Christmas,' I would suffer in silence!
I could do without, "mommy kissing Santa Claus" or "Grandma got run over by a reindeer"

[jimjamuser]

The difference in how we, the people of The Villages, handle situations like this is largely geographic. The ones from the East Coast of the U.S. directly speak to the offender, who if he/she is from that part of the world is likely to speak back and likely to say something else that makes the situation no better, and possibly worse. The folks from the middle part of the country do not confront the offender. They either stop going, or move to another pool, because their mothers taught them to hush and not tell other people how to act.

Neither group is really right or wrong. Some people, I will say a lot of people are losing their hearing and come to the pools without their hearers so they aren't offended, the sound is a soft sound to them. Some people enjoy it. Some people have hyperacusis and loud sounds affect them and make them irritable.

I say. Merry Christmas. We have the vaccine that is 94% EFFECTIVE that will soon be available to all of us over 65. That means in essence the Pandemic will be over and we don't have to listen to people saying it is a conspiracy from the Chinese and that we are a bunch of paranoid stupid old people who probably are gonna die soon anyway.

Merry Christmas to you and yours. I hope you have something yummy to eat today and someone to share it with. xoxoxo
As regards the vaccine - I notice that some non-healthcare people were the 1st to get it here locally.

[DavidK]

There have been some great suggestions, and a few funny tongue in cheek remarks, regarding the villager playing music for all to hear while at the neighborhood pool. It all comes down to consideration. We all come from different parts of the world and have different habits, levels of tolerance, and expectations. So, before you do what you always have done, think if it is considerate. Here are some things we have experienced since being here just five months. As Jerry Seinfeld says, "there are loud talkers" and "cell yellers". Whether you are in your screened lanai or garage, at the grocery, or at the pool, you can be considerate. In traffic when someone turns at the last minute or a golf cart is heading down a street just for autos, perhaps the cart driver is a new resident and has not yet figured out what kind of vehicle is allowed on the roads and what kind is not. The same goes for the round-a-bouts. Being a new resident can be very confusing and embarrassing. How about your neighbor's beloved dog that yaps incessantly whenever you go outside or there is a delivery to a home nearby. It is annoying and the pet should be put in the house or trained not to bark, especially when the owner says, "hush!". Unfortunately, the owners are used to the sound and since they love their pet, they are so much more tolerant than others. We dined on Christmas Eve at the Belle Glade Country Club. It is a pretty and fairly formal dining spot. While there, we observed a woman bring a large poodle into the restaurant. From the looks of the animal, it may have been a "companion". However, the woman was with a pretty good-sized group, likely family or friends. Could she not have left the dog at home for an hour or two? Instead, all the patrons and servers had to accommodate this woman and her dog. It laid nicely on the floor, leashed to her chair and enjoying a bowl of water. If the restaurant allows her to have her dog, then a person with a noisy shedding smelly dog can't be excluded. Right?
Learn to listen better, have more patience, and try to make your retirement years pleasant. If you confront someone, be honest and polite, not belligerent and angry. Be considerate and when others interact with they will learn and appreciate your patience.

[Funkman]

Of course, there are those who bray on and on loud enough for everybody to hear, not just their friends. There are also those who blather away, at the top of their lungs, on their cells.

Those AirPods or earbuds work both ways, not only allowing your personal music choices to be kept to yourself but also to block out anything you don’t want to hear.

The fact that those situations exist does not give license to somebody to inflict their music on everybody else at a pool.

(By the way, you quoted me out of context, missed my analysis of the other character in this vignette of life in TV.)

And now for a little history lesson to underline my point about having nice manners:

Remember how the Army drove the dictator Noriega out of hiding? If you don’t know, look it up — psychological warfare — and if you keep looking, you will even find the playlist the military chose. But pleeeeeeese do not download it and take it to the pool.

Boomer

Shouldn't the 'rules' be applied to everyone equally?

Why don't those who have a problem with the music simply wear earplugs if they don't like the way others choose to relax?

Why should those blathering on be allowed to inflict their business on others?

Again, there are two sides to this, demonizing one side while excusing the other, isn't fair and won't help solve anything.

If I'm sitting by myself, listening to music at voice level, and someone sits down next to me and complains, am I required to turn it down/off? If so, do I have the right to ask that person not to speak at that same volume?

Why exactly is one acceptable while the other one isn't?

I agree that it's all about having manners and respecting others but there are those that think the world revolves around them and what they want and we all know those people are going to do whatever they want regardless of the feelings of others.

Which is why I'd really like to see what the actual rules are rather than simply going on what some people wish the rules were.

(FTR, I didn't mean to quote you out of context, I was just quoting the part I was responding to)

[Luisa]

Don’t want to hear Christmas music. You sound like Scrooges. The music didn’t need to be loud. I would have been very unhappy if it was so low I could barely hear it. I don’t think it is nice to ruin other people’s joy. If you want to read a book, fine. However, everyone else shouldn’t have to suffer in silence. I’m appreciative if someone brings music and joy to the pool. If I want silence, I’ll stay home.

[jimjamuser]

Hmmm would a little Five Finger Death Punch be the answer here? I am probably one of the few here that like their music. We are fortunate enough to have our own pool. I still listen with head phones as I’m sure my neighbors aren’t fans. Merry Christmas, take the road less traveled, iron sharpens iron, don’t dwell on the negative, I just move on, mama always said you reap what you sow. Mr. Or Miss J Q A$$h0lis will receive payment in kind down the road 10 fold!
"iron sharpens iron" - that IS serious philosophy - how about, " rock gives iron a sharper edge".

[LiverpoolWalrus]

If anyone wants to listen to music at a public place, earbuds or headphones would be the courteous way to go.

Of course you could blare your favorite band, Tool, next time to get your point across. There’s probably only 2 of us in TV that actually like them, it’s sure to succeed.

I love Tool. I hope Maynard has recovered from Covid by now. You're absolutely right - we should blast Tool or Nine Inch Nails or Jane's Addiction for equal time. And do it at the poster's pool. That might send a signal.

[vintageogauge]

I was hoping to get an answer to this as it would certainly go a long way towards clearing some questions up.

Are there actual rules for bringing and playing music at the pools?

If it's just a question of the music being too loud? Does it only apply to music brought in from outside? Can the 'piped in' music be changed by those at the pools or is it controlled remotely?

I've been toying with the idea of trying to put together pool 'listening parties' of various shows/artists, so any help with these questions would be appreciated.

From what I've been able to dig up for actual rules, there's a lot of unanswered questions and I'd like to have my ducks in a row before bringing it up to those who would ultimately have the final word.

Thanks in advance for any assistance

There is a rule that you cannot have organized events such as your listening party or exercise groups, etc. at the adult pools. There is also a rule to shower before entering the pool, how many times has anyone seen that happen? In the online rules regarding the adult pools as well as all other pools there is nothing regarding music or radios posted.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Next time bring your own boom box with a CD player and blast AC/ DC, I’m sure he’ll get the idea.

That sounds like a dirty deed done dirt cheap.

[Funkman]

There is a rule that you cannot have organized events such as your listening party or exercise groups, etc. at the adult pools. There is also a rule to shower before entering the pool, how many times has anyone seen that happen? In the online rules regarding the adult pools as well as all other pools there is nothing regarding music or radios posted.
That's a surprise, I've seen a group of exercisers on a regular basis at one of the pools I frequent, it's certainly a planned and organized event.

I wonder if they'd give me a hard time if I showed up and started blasting the boombox. :boxing2:


(and no, I wouldn't actually do that)

[vintageogauge]

That's a surprise, I've seen a group of exercisers on a regular basis at one of the pools I frequent, it's certainly a planned and organized event.

I wonder if they'd give me a hard time if I showed up and started blasting the boombox. :boxing2:


(and no, I wouldn't actually do that)

So now we know there is a rule being broken for sure that you have witnessed along with the shower rule. However unless someone digs up a regulation about radios that violation does not exist, not saying it's the right thing to do but there appears to be no rule against it.

[jimjamuser]

I love Tool. I hope Maynard has recovered from Covid by now. You're absolutely right - we should blast Tool or Nine Inch Nails or Jane's Addiction for equal time. And do it at the poster's pool. That might send a signal.
And what signal would THAT be - anarchy, misogyny, hatred, and general selfishness? Let's hope that it was a joke?

[Funkman]

And what signal would THAT be - anarchy, misogyny, hatred, and general selfishness? Let's hope that it was a joke?Or that it's time to crank up the music and party.

No reason it has to be a negative thing

[LiverpoolWalrus]

And what signal would THAT be - anarchy, misogyny, hatred, and general selfishness? Let's hope that it was a joke?

The only signal would be that one can't assume everyone at the pool wants to hear your personal music, whether it's Christmas carols, big band, Frank Sinatra or Black Sabbath. If your music can only be heard from a few feet away, that's fine, but I think the OP was lamenting that the music can be heard all around the pool. If I blasted Tool while the other person was blasting Christmas carols, it would send an unmistakable signal, in my opinion, that one person being in charge of music for the whole pool area is probably not a good idea.

Misogyny? Where did that come from? I'm a lot of things, but misogynist is not one of them. And neither are those bands, if that's what you meant.

I thought the pools pipe in WVLG anyway, isn't that the case?

Do we have too much time on our hands? If this constitutes the sum total of the woes of the Village People, then we're in pretty good shape.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

So if there are thirty people at the pool and 29 are enjoying the music, they are a-holes because one person doesn't like it?

I understand what the rule is, but where is the common sense?

You never know if those 29 are really enjoying it though. Unless it’s the Mop Tops, it’s very unlikely.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

So, I drove to Southside Pool an hour ago to read the actual rule sign. Turns out, "no noise" is not among the rules posted. Oddly enough, "don't swallow the pool water" is an actual rule. Personally I think their priorities are a bit off - if someone needs to be ORDERED not to swallow pool water, there's probably a much more serious problem going on.

Regardless, the OP did the right thing by ASKING the person with the radio to turn it down. The guy with the radio did the CONSIDERATE thing, and complied. The guy in the pool was a jerk, full stop.

[jimjamuser]

So, I drove to Southside Pool an hour ago to read the actual rule sign. Turns out, "no noise" is not among the rules posted. Oddly enough, "don't swallow the pool water" is an actual rule. Personally I think their priorities are a bit off - if someone needs to be ORDERED not to swallow pool water, there's probably a much more serious problem going on.

Regardless, the OP did the right thing by ASKING the person with the radio to turn it down. The guy with the radio did the CONSIDERATE thing, and complied. The guy in the pool was a jerk, full stop.
On the way out, did you notice the large plant that blocks the driver's view of oncoming traffic? One of my personal pet peeves. It forces a turning car to go out into the middle of the street.

[jimjamuser]

The only signal would be that one can't assume everyone at the pool wants to hear your personal music, whether it's Christmas carols, big band, Frank Sinatra or Black Sabbath. If your music can only be heard from a few feet away, that's fine, but I think the OP was lamenting that the music can be heard all around the pool. If I blasted Tool while the other person was blasting Christmas carols, it would send an unmistakable signal, in my opinion, that one person being in charge of music for the whole pool area is probably not a good idea.

Misogyny? Where did that come from? I'm a lot of things, but misogynist is not one of them. And neither are those bands, if that's what you meant.

I thought the pools pipe in WVLG anyway, isn't that the case?

Do we have too much time on our hands? If this constitutes the sum total of the woes of the Village People, then we're in pretty good shape.
Misogyny - just a unique word that gets people curious and thinking. Ha, made you think. Also, The thread starter is a woman and someone suggested that someone blast some group (AC/DC ?) to drown her out or drive her away. Misogyny seemed appropriate, maybe unconscious? I am open to other opinions.

[Velvet]

I love Tool. I hope Maynard has recovered from Covid by now. You're absolutely right - we should blast Tool or Nine Inch Nails or Jane's Addiction for equal time. And do it at the poster's pool. That might send a signal.

Hey, that’s not a bad idea. Some people like that stuff. Add in a little Metallica, Smashing Pumpkins (hubby chose for our wedding day), and if you want get people to leave put “Baby Shark” on a loop.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Hey, that’s not a bad idea. Some people like that stuff. Add in a little Metallica, Smashing Pumpkins (hubby chose for our wedding day), and if you want get people to leave put “Baby Shark” on a loop.

Could you have meant the Mud Shark dancing lesson?

The Mud Shark (Live) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6J-rifdLts)

[CFrance]

Could you have meant the Mud Shark dancing lesson?

The Mud Shark (Live) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6J-rifdLts)
Nope. If you have very young children or grandchildren, this will have driven you crazy in its heyday: Baby Shark, featuring Luis Fonsi | Baby Shark Song | Pinkfong Songs for Children - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsw-de5xcCU)

[Velvet]

Cool, Frank Zappa! Line dancing/swimming at the pool.... yep, I can see that.

[cj1040]

Eeew do I want to know if fecal shedding is REALLY a common problem in the pools?

[La lamy]

I'm thinking you got your way, so if the shoe fits...

Fist of all No music played for others to hear is not "My way" it's the rule, and second I didn't get my way, I let the pool bully get his way and listened to X-Mas songs for an hour while getting much needed Vit D on my skin.

[La lamy]

Why should visitors have a say??

You've got to be kidding!!! Wow. I pay to be here just like you do. My 6 months is probably more expensive than your yearly fees. Rules apply to everybody, or are you one of those who feel privileged and poopoos on everybody that doesn't look like you, or buy in to the same lodging as you. :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[La lamy]

My errors.

All my references in this post to OrangeBlossum should have been to the op - La lamy

Funkman, you are correct the op (La lamy) only noted she looked up the rules but did not specify much detail. I have observed many of her other posts over time that have been based on truth, so I trust La lamy's posts implicitly. But I too share your hunger for more details,

Please refer to my original post of "Pool Etiquette" to find the sources of the rule which I deemed valid. But I'm always open for more clarification.

[Funkman]

So are there actually written rules or were the rules you went equipped with, just something "people were saying" are the rules?

OP, did you find the official list of rules?

I'm trying to get some definitive answers here and would like to take a look at them, if possible, before bringing my idea to the CDD.

Thank you

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I agree with all the people who said that the rules must be enforced. I was most amazed that a ''visitor'' had the audacity to be that rude to an owner who pays so "the visitor" can use the pool free of charge!! The other guy turned it down so he must have know the rules--but he could have avoided the problem in the first place by not bringing the music into the pool area. Some people ''just don't get it" and have to be told and penalized in a way that they can understand. It's your pool---enjoy it.

I know the guy that brings the music to that pool. He is part of the large group of regulars that I mentioned earlier and they all enjoy the music that he brings. He is a great guy and as has been noted, he agreed to lower the volume.

They also sometimes bring food and adult beverages and everyone seems to have a great time.

So a group of people that go to this pool almost on a daily basis when the weather is appropriate have a good time and enjoy music should change everything because one person who's never been there before doesn't like it?

There may be a rule about this. That doesn't seem to have been determined. And although I am in favor of enforcing rules and changing them when a majority wants to, I am also in favor of common sense.

While I sympathize with the OP, I don't know I believe that she should have the right to ruin everyone else's good time. Was the music really all that offensive that she had to make a big deal about it? I think that most of us would have simply laid there and relaxed.

[graciegirl]

I know the guy that brings the music to that pool. He is part of the large group of regulars that I mentioned earlier and they all enjoy the music that he brings. He is a great guy and as has been noted, he agreed to lower the volume.

They also sometimes bring food and adult beverages and everyone seems to have a great time.

So a group of people that go to this pool almost on a daily basis when the weather is appropriate have a good time and enjoy music should change everything because one person who's never been there before doesn't like it?

There may be a rule about this. That doesn't seem to have been determined. And although I am in favor of enforcing rules and changing them when a majority wants to, I am also in favor of common sense.

While I sympathize with the OP, I don't know I believe that she should have the right to ruin everyone else's good time. Was the music really all that offensive that she had to make a big deal about it? I think that most of us would have simply laid there and relaxed.

Since it has been our family's pleasure to meet you in person, this post is another on the list of reasons why we like you. Your kindness and your common sense as well as your sharing of music to others is part of who you are.

[Dgizzi]

The pools are only going to get shall we say less peaceful from now until April or May. Before buying down here we rented in Sunset Pointe for a few winters and they always had music playing and loud conversation. I kind of enjoyed seeing everyone having a good time wishing we could be here full time. Thousands of different personalities down here so we just learn to live with them. If you would read back some of the disgusting things that happen in and around the pools you will realize that loud music is trivial in comparison and you most likely would not want to go back to any of the pools.
And it DEPENDS on what music is playing too! That’s where the problem comes into.

[Eileenm]

I like Bing Cosby s white Christmas
As long as the never play Bing Crosby and 'White Christmas,' or Noddy Holder, with 'So here it is Merry Christmas,' I would suffer in silence!

[Beyond The Wall]

The problem is too many rules and just not enough common courtesy.
TV has too many RULES without trying to add more! 😊 Besides it’s Christmas, or it was. Belated MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL

[Bilyclub]

I know the guy that brings the music to that pool. He is part of the large group of regulars that I mentioned earlier and they all enjoy the music that he brings. He is a great guy and as has been noted, he agreed to lower the volume.

They also sometimes bring food and adult beverages and everyone seems to have a great time.

So a group of people that go to this pool almost on a daily basis when the weather is appropriate have a good time and enjoy music should change everything because one person who's never been there before doesn't like it?

There may be a rule about this. That doesn't seem to have been determined. And although I am in favor of enforcing rules and changing them when a majority wants to, I am also in favor of common sense.

While I sympathize with the OP, I don't know I believe that she should have the right to ruin everyone else's good time. Was the music really all that offensive that she had to make a big deal about it? I think that most of us would have simply laid there and relaxed.


I love how this post says "clique" without saying the word.

[jimjamuser]

I know the guy that brings the music to that pool. He is part of the large group of regulars that I mentioned earlier and they all enjoy the music that he brings. He is a great guy and as has been noted, he agreed to lower the volume.

They also sometimes bring food and adult beverages and everyone seems to have a great time.

So a group of people that go to this pool almost on a daily basis when the weather is appropriate have a good time and enjoy music should change everything because one person who's never been there before doesn't like it?

There may be a rule about this. That doesn't seem to have been determined. And although I am in favor of enforcing rules and changing them when a majority wants to, I am also in favor of common sense.

While I sympathize with the OP, I don't know I believe that she should have the right to ruin everyone else's good time. Was the music really all that offensive that she had to make a big deal about it? I think that most of us would have simply laid there and relaxed.
If ONE person states publically that they think the music is too loud, then there are probably about 5 that feel it is too loud, but don't want to say anything for fear of being BULLIED. And besides - one person being offended is ONE person too many!

[jimjamuser]

The problem is too many rules and just not enough common courtesy.
TV has too many RULES without trying to add more! 😊 Besides it’s Christmas, or it was. Belated MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
Rules were needed at a National level to avoid hospital overcrowding. Rules at a pool level are followed or not - and argued about depending on the modeling from the National level. If we have anarchy at the local swimming pool, how do you think that will filter up in the future? Attitudes permeate throughout ALL of society. it can be seen even in the cooperation at the local pool.

[jimjamuser]

I love how this post says "clique" without saying the word.
I agree - "clique" - or what the loudest BULLY says is the situational REALITY - sound familiar?

[Stu from NYC]

It is a public pool and people should not be forced to hear music they do not care for played at a level that drowns everything else out..

[Velvet]

Yes, I find it irritating when a group of people treat the neighborhood pool as their private venue. I do like to have fun but not at the inconvenience of others. Perhaps there might be a way to rent out a pool for special gatherings? Or when you want to play personal but unwelcome music?

[vintageogauge]

Yes, I find it irritating when a group of people treat the neighborhood pool as their private venue. I do like to have fun but not at the inconvenience of others. Perhaps there might be a way to rent out a pool for special gatherings? Or when you want to play personal but unwelcome music?

The rules clearly state no organized events at the neighborhood pools however they do not state that music cannot be played.

[Velvet]

But, if new needs that were unforeseen arise, perhaps we can add an amendment? My impression is the rules are not quite like the Ten Commandments... for all eternity.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I recall at one point last year, there was a brass ensemble that practiced in the Southside pool rec building, in front of the window facing the pool. IIRC the window was slid open, so that everyone could hear the music. It was terrific!

But it was also not a daily thing, and it didn't go on for hours and hours. It was a scheduled rehearsal, or possibly a scheduled performance.

If I didn't like that kind of music, or wanted to read in quiet, I certainly would've gone to another pool.

But if I had to go to another pool every time I tried to take a relaxing dip in a social environment, just because one person decided to be a total POS about "ma freedumz" I'd grow pretty tired of it.

[vintageogauge]

But, if new needs that were unforeseen arise, perhaps we can add an amendment? My impression is the rules are not quite like the Ten Commandments... for all eternity.

I don't recall every seeing or reading about any amendments to the regulations/rules. They would just get those on the other side of the fence aggravated so I don't see that happening.

[timjones]

Assuming property owners wanted to change the official rules;

Does anyone have a clue about the process through which the official rules can be amended?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

If ONE person states publically that they think the music is too loud, then there are probably about 5 that feel it is too loud, but don't want to say anything for fear of being BULLIED. And besides - one person being offended is ONE person too many!

What do you base this one? "There are probably" does not make it so. I go to that pool quite often and I don't recall ever hearing a complaint about the music. I would think that in all the years of going there that someone else would have complained.

And I stated earlier, when the OP complained, the guy turned the volume down.

[vintageogauge]

Assuming property owners wanted to change the official rules;

Does anyone have a clue about the process through which the official rules can be amended?

You would need a 2/3 majority from both the house and senate followed up by 100% county commissioner approval. That is the easy way.

[Stu from NYC]

You would need a 2/3 majority from both the house and senate followed up by 100% county commissioner approval. That is the easy way.

Not fair that the puppets get to vote on this.

:bigbow: