Worn Front Tires

[lambstuff]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.

[Stu from NYC]

There was another thread on this a week or so ago and several people who were in the tire business said this is not correct.

[dewilson58]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.


"Excessive" wear??? :ohdear: Keep it below 55.

[Two Bills]

More likely turning steering wheel when stationary.
You take a lot more sharp left and right turns than circling roundabouts.
Someone is pulling your chain!

[CWGUY]

"Excessive" wear??? :ohdear: Keep it below 55.

:shrug: Gotta go 55 to live here..... or something like that! :confused: "Never Mind!" - Emily Litella

[dewilson58]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.
That is why I propose: Traffic in roundabouts go counter-clockwise on odd days, clockwise on even days.


:a040:

[tophcfa]

That is why I propose: Traffic in roundabouts go counter-clockwise on odd days, clockwise on even days.


:a040:

Bad idea, many can’t figure out how the roundabouts work already, further complications could be disastrous.

[dewilson58]

Bad idea, many can’t figure out how the roundabouts work already, further complications could be disastrous.
Sarcasm Sheldon, Sarcasm.


:MOJE_whot:

[Dana1963]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.
Try keeping air at correct pressure. Currently we have 70,000 on 80,000 mile rated tires with normal wear and tear 5/32 will replace at recommended 2/32 or B4

[Topspinmo]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.

Yes, roundabouts will wear front tires on one side if you negotiate them above 25 mph or so due to centrifugal force? Tire pressure also critical and supposed rotate them between 6 and 10K miles anyway, one avenue rhey use to void tire warranty? IMO most don’t check tire pressure at least once month, tires will loose 1 to 2 PSI month depending on temperature changes unless the are filled with nitrogen.

[Topspinmo]

More likely turning steering wheel when stationary.
You take a lot more sharp left and right turns than circling roundabouts.
Someone is pulling your chain!


Wouldn’t Turning wheels stationary wear tires in one spot and not on outside/inside edge? Think about it?

[TSO/ISPF]

When traversing a round thing with no other traffic you might try going from left lane to right lane as you pass through. It's more fun if you do it at 55 but at any speed it reduces friction. Just be sure and use your rear view mirrors to avoid conflict. Stay Safe Ya'all.:shocked::pray:

[Topspinmo]

When traversing a round thing with no other traffic you might try going from left lane to right lane as you pass through. It's more fun if you do it at 55 but at any speed it reduces friction. Just be sure and use your rear view mirrors to avoid conflict. Stay Safe Ya'all.:shocked::pray:

Hey some do that and don’t look 👀????

[Stu from NYC]

When traversing a round thing with no other traffic you might try going from left lane to right lane as you pass through. It's more fun if you do it at 55 but at any speed it reduces friction. Just be sure and use your rear view mirrors to avoid conflict. Stay Safe Ya'all.:shocked::pray:

If you do it at 75 do you gain tread?

[tophcfa]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.

You can rotate your tires all you want, but if you don't periodically get an alignment it is a waste of time.

[vintageogauge]

we have two cars one has 25,000 miles on it and the other 12,000 miles both purchased new in TV and they both are subject to daily trips thought the circles and none of the tires either car show any wear whatsoever. Your post is not true.

[John_W]

Try keeping air at correct pressure...

Absolutely. On my ten year old Yamaha gas cart I have 3 original tires and they still look almost new. The right rear I had to replace three years ago because I didn't notice the pressure had gotten low and the edge wore out. It pays to look on the right rear side once in awhile.

[Topspinmo]

we have two cars one has 25,000 miles on it and the other 12,000 miles both purchased new in TV and they both are subject to daily trips thought the circles and none of the tires either car show any wear whatsoever. Your post is not true.

Maybe you’re not aggressive driver as some?

[Topspinmo]

You can rotate your tires all you want, but if you don't periodically get an alignment it is a waste of time.

Only goes out of alignment it you hit curves or jump over parking lot concrete slabs and have warn suspension parts. Course tire company going say that.

[camaguey48]

That is why I propose: Traffic in roundabouts go counter-clockwise on odd days, clockwise on even days.


:a040:
That will work if they remembered which day.

[Two Bills]

Wouldn’t Turning wheels stationary wear tires in one spot and not on outside/inside edge? Think about it?

Probably would.
If.
You were able to park your car with the tire in exactly the same spot each time, and over a long period.
Think about it?

[Rwirish]

This is fake news.

[mike1946]

What a load of rubbish re-tyre wear. We have roundabouts everywhere in the UK and some that would blow your mind (Google the magic roundabout - not the TV show - there's one in Swindon and another in Hemel Hempstead) and after driving here for 50 odd years the tyre wear is due to tracking mis-allignment and tyre pressure. By the way the word is Tyre not Tire ... Tire means getting fatigued ..the Y is there to differentiate the meanings ...just saying.

[b0bd0herty]

Sarcasm Sheldon, Sarcasm.


:MOJE_whot:

My body shop would LUV for the alternating directions!:a040:

[Two Bills]

What a load of rubbish re-tyre wear. We have roundabouts everywhere in the UK and some that would blow your mind (Google the magic roundabout - not the TV show - there's one in Swindon and another in Hemel Hempstead) and after driving here for 50 odd years the tyre wear is due to tracking mis-allignment and tyre pressure. By the way the word is Tyre not Tire ... Tire means getting fatigued ..the Y is there to differentiate the meanings ...just saying.

Dont rouse the natives!
They do tire, we do tyre, and they will not tire in telling you that we are wrong!:icon_wink:

[chipd331]

Pretty sure you should rotate your tires every 5 to 6K miles, if you want to get the max life out of them
of course tire pressure
also pretty sure front wheel drive cars, wear the tires out faster than rear wheel

[Arctic Fox]

I learned that leaving your turn signals on the whole time wears them out, but that's not going to stop me from doing it

turning them on and off as needed wears out the switch, so it's a no-win situation

[thevillagernie]

naaaaa ! it's not the circle's

[Dilligas]

Pretty sure you should rotate your tires every 5 to 6K miles, if you want to get the max life out of them
of course tire pressure
also pretty sure front wheel drive cars, wear the tires out faster than rear wheel
And for excessive round about wear....do like they do at Daytona, provide more air pressure to the right side tires. 😜

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

One of the things my husband taught me is when you get an oil change have them rotate your tires.

[Girlcopper]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.
Driving around a circle doesnt affect tires or everyone would have to drive on only straight roads with no turns.

[FastDrive]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.

Thank you for this useful information.

[PugMom]

One of the things my husband taught me is when you get an oil change have them rotate your tires.

exactly! some places offer it as part of the service. each time the car goes in, the tires are rotated

[greenflash245]

improper inflation is the culprit.

[oneclickplus]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.

If your tires wore unevenly or excessively, your front end had an alignment problem.

Roundabouts in the Villages or anywhere would not do this.

(former mechanic)

[Waltdisney4life]

More fake news improper inflation is the culprit of tire wear very simple.

[brakey]

Fact of the Matter is that "IF" you see unusual wear on the front tires you may need a wheel alignment.
No you don't need an alignment periodically unless you want to support the local wheel alignment and tire shops with additional profit.
Running counter clockwise on the roundabout's may or may not cause tire wear on the right front tire. Cornering force will act on the outside edge of that tire but tire wear in this case will be dependent on your speed through the roundabout. It depends how aggressive you are.
Generally wheel alignments are needed when some front end component is damaged or worst case if a front end part is bent from going off road, into a curb or some other obstacle.
The best way to determine if you need a wheel alignment or wheel balance is to monitor tire wear. You can google tire wear or pick up an automotive book that describes what tire wear to look out for and what to do about it.

ASE certified master mechanic and Automotive Engineer

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

More likely turning steering wheel when stationary.
You take a lot more sharp left and right turns than circling roundabouts.
Someone is pulling your chain!

I don' know that the turns made in an out of round abouts qualify as "sharp". In fact it seems just the opposite to me. Ninety degree turns at intersections are sharp. The turns made in round abouts are not close to ninety degrees.

[Topspinmo]

Fact of the Matter is that "IF" you see unusual wear on the front tires you may need a wheel alignment.
No you don't need an alignment periodically unless you want to support the local wheel alignment and tire shops with additional profit.
Running counter clockwise on the roundabout's may or may not cause tire wear on the right front tire. Cornering force will act on the outside edge of that tire but tire wear in this case will be dependent on your speed through the roundabout. It depends how aggressive you are.
Generally wheel alignments are needed when some front end component is damaged or worst case if a front end part is bent from going off road, into a curb or some other obstacle.
The best way to determine if you need a wheel alignment or wheel balance is to monitor tire wear. You can google tire wear or pick up an automotive book that describes what tire wear to look out for and what to do about it.

ASE certified master mechanic and Automotive Engineer

Agree, except It would be in inside of drivers side tire if you routinely take roundabouts at high speed and don’t rotate tires.

[Topspinmo]

More fake news improper inflation is the culprit of tire wear very simple.


More dipsticks comments that can’t find dipstick.

[Topspinmo]

I don' know that the turns made in an out of round abouts qualify as "sharp". In fact it seems just the opposite to me. Ninety degree turns at intersections are sharp. The turns made in round abouts are not close to ninety degrees.

It not sharp, it speed and centrifugal force.

[vintageogauge]

Maybe you’re not aggressive driver as some?

The OP didn't state they were aggressive and I am probably a tad more aggressive on the turns than most but in a careful way. I also never get my tires rotated, over the years there were several Cadillacs I owned that had different size tires front and rear that did not call for rotation and ever since then I stopped doing it to all of my cars. I drive my cars around 36,000 miles and then trade them in and have not come close to needing tires in decades. I do keep the pressure where it should be and check the them regularly. I also might add that I don't even remember the last time I had to have an alignment.

[Topspinmo]

Driving around a circle doesnt affect tires or everyone would have to drive on only straight roads with no turns.


Why’d do you think race care tires wear out? Speed and centrifugal force.

[Topspinmo]

Driving around a circle doesnt affect tires or everyone would have to drive on only straight roads with no turns.

You’re joking right.

[Topspinmo]

What a load of rubbish re-tyre wear. We have roundabouts everywhere in the UK and some that would blow your mind (Google the magic roundabout - not the TV show - there's one in Swindon and another in Hemel Hempstead) and after driving here for 50 odd years the tyre wear is due to tracking mis-allignment and tyre pressure. By the way the word is Tyre not Tire ... Tire means getting fatigued ..the Y is there to differentiate the meanings ...just saying.


I’ve drove in England and roundabouts are not as curvy as on BV or MB. And where they where you could not speed through them.

[Two Bills]

I don' know that the turns made in an out of round abouts qualify as "sharp". In fact it seems just the opposite to me. Ninety degree turns at intersections are sharp. The turns made in round abouts are not close to ninety degrees.

If you read what I wrote, that is what I said!

[Two Bills]

I’ve drove in England and roundabouts are not as curvy as on BV or MB. And where they where you could not speed through them.

You never met a mini roundabout?
They don't get any curvier than them!

[Topspinmo]

Bottom line, if rubber tires are rotating with weight on them they are wearing. If you want them to last, check tire pressure monthly, rotate them, and don’t speed, especially going around corners.

[Topspinmo]

You never met a mini roundabout?
They don't get any curvier than them!

But, can you speed through them?

[Topspinmo]

The OP didn't state they were aggressive and I am probably a tad more aggressive on the turns than most but in a careful way. I also never get my tires rotated, over the years there were several Cadillacs I owned that had different size tires front and rear that did not call for rotation and ever since then I stopped doing it to all of my cars. I drive my cars around 36,000 miles and then trade them in and have not come close to needing tires in decades. I do keep the pressure where it should be and check the them regularly. I also might add that I don't even remember the last time I had to have an alignment.

You don’t keep car long enough to replace anything. Those of us that expect to get 60K plus out of tires do what recommended in owners manual.

[Polar Bear]

Driving a bit aggressively through the roundabouts will probably turn a 50k mile tire into a 48k mile tire. I can live with that.

[Two Bills]

But, can you speed through them?

Absolutely!
They have no raised circle, just a painted one.
Roundabouts do not damage tires.

[carpej]

That is why I propose: Traffic in roundabouts go counter-clockwise on odd days, clockwise on even days.


:a040:

I am still laughing..........

[Tankerrich]

Fill with nitrogen instead of air.

[biker1]

That will not accomplish anything except perhaps making your wallet lighter. Air is 78% nitrogen. The 21% oxygen, plus 1% trace gases, will not have a measurable impact on your tires.

Fill with nitrogen instead of air.

[Topspinmo]

Absolutely!
They have no raised circle, just a painted one.
Roundabouts do not damage tires.

Funny thing when I when to get MOT they said tires are worn? I stopped going to Bicester tires and muffler:)

[Topspinmo]

Driving a bit aggressively through the roundabouts will probably turn a 50k mile tire into a 48k mile tire. I can live with that.

You’re aggressively might not be as aggressively as some.

[Curtisbwp]

Will the round abouts or rotery ware my tires more than the numerous roterys where i come from? I dont think so

[DAVES]

Endless opinion debate.
Tires-on your car I expect almost all of us have radials and front wheel drive. Warranty,
it says, you are sold a 70,000 mile warranty. Reality, if you read the deal, it is based on list price and is prorated base on wear. No one pays list price and the prorated warranty means any value expires long before the stated 70,000.
Front wheel drive. The front tires carry more weight, wear from engine power, wear from steering, wear from braking-the due to the fact that when you brake the weight shifts forward-you are opposing momentum, and often due to impacts etc the front tires are no longer properly aligned.
Nitrogen-nitrogen as a gas has less volume change, pressure change than the mix we call air. You pay extra for nitrogen. You take your car in for service and they top off the pressure. OOPS did they add nitrogen or the air from the hose laying around. You get a flat. You call ????? service. They plug the tire, the nitrogen has leaked out, they will fill it with air. You cannot get all the air out and refill it with nitrogen. It does work-IF.
Rotating your tires.
OPINION-mine. I have my tires rotated front to back and then back to front keeping the tire on the same side of the car. The typical pattern where you cross from side to side,
you case the cross over tire to revolve in the opposite direction from what it was doing.
It can cause failure. It used to be more common than today but I've had tires fail due to this.
Tires have gotten far more expensive than they used to be. They are also far better for handling, service life etc. In the 60's and 70's 20,000 miles was typical. Today 50,000 plus.

[OhioBuckeye]

Learned something today, make sure you rotate your tires as the villages roundabouts cause excessive wear on the front tires and to occasionally check for wear.

Glad to hear someone knows this. Very good point! You would be surprised how many people don’t ever check their engine oil either.

[biker1]

Some stuff here that is wrong. The impact of nitrogen vs. air is minimal because air is 78% nitrogen. It is a profit making upsell to the uninformed. If you have a race car or a plane then you might be able to make a reasonable case for nitrogen. For daily drivers, nope. Regarding rotation, unless the tires are directional tires or the manufacturer specifically doesn't recommend cross-over rotation patterns, a cross-over rotation pattern is fine. I have specifically asked Michelin about this and I have been doing it for decades when I haven't bought directional tires.


Nitrogen-nitrogen as a gas has less volume change, pressure change than the mix we call air. You pay extra for nitrogen. You take your car in for service and they top off the pressure. OOPS did they add nitrogen or the air from the hose laying around. You get a flat. You call ????? service. They plug the tire, the nitrogen has leaked out, they will fill it with air. You cannot get all the air out and refill it with nitrogen. It does work-IF.

Rotating your tires.
OPINION-mine. I have my tires rotated front to back and then back to front keeping the tire on the same side of the car. The typical pattern where you cross from side to side,
you case the cross over tire to revolve in the opposite direction from what it was doing.
It can cause failure. It used to be more common than today but I've had tires fail due to this.

[Polar Bear]

You’re aggressively might not be as aggressively as some.
I'll put my aggressively up against anybody's aggressively. :D Still not concerned about any additional tire wear. :)

[Byte1]

I usually only go around the circle once to get to the exit I wish. Some folks get on the circle and get lost, causing them to circle around about 50 times or more. I can see how they would have problems with their tires wearing on one side.:gc:

[chrisinva]

ka - BOOM!

[retiredguy123]

I usually only go around the circle once to get to the exit I wish. Some folks get on the circle and get lost, causing them to circle around about 50 times or more. I can see how they would have problems with their tires wearing on one side.:gc:
50 times or more? Wow! I hope that's an exaggeration.

[Topspinmo]

I'll put my aggressively up against anybody's aggressively. :D Still not concerned about any additional tire wear. :)


So you lease?

[SugarBear]

Front tire wear exceeding the rear tires has to do with not balancing the tires, not the traffic circles.
If you think about it, the front tires are rotating on an axis going around a turn whilst the rear tires are still trying to go straight around the turn.

[Polar Bear]

So you lease?
Heheh. Nope. I just know that tire wear due to roundabouts is not enough above normal tire wear to be concerned. :)

[SacDQ]

that is why i propose: traffic in roundabouts go counter-clockwise on odd days, clockwise on even days.


:a040: lmao

[dewilson58]

lmao
Sarcasm Sheldon, sarcasm. :ohdear:

[Topspinmo]

Heheh. Nope. I just know that tire wear due to roundabouts is not enough above normal tire wear to be concerned. :)

So, gravity and speed has nothing to do with it? I alway wonder why circle track cars replaced all those not worn tires.

[Topspinmo]

Front tire wear exceeding the rear tires has to do with not balancing the tires, not the traffic circles.
If you think about it, the front tires are rotating on an axis going around a turn whilst the rear tires are still trying to go straight around the turn.

If you take corner too fast the first tires that slides are the front due to centrifugal force, then the back tire come around. The front tires are taking all the force when cornering. Why rotation recommended especially on front wheel drive cars.

[dewilson58]

If you take corner too fast the first tires that slides are the front due to centrifugal force, then the back tire come around. The front tires are taking all the force when cornering. Why rotation recommended especially on front wheel drive cars.
:bigbow:

[Polar Bear]

So, gravity and speed has nothing to do with it?...
Your words. Not mine. I never said that.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

LOL! on rotating tires on a front wheel drive car! I have driven front wheel drive cars since 1980, and never rotated tires once. All cars were driven at least 120K-140K miles.

Fact: front wheel drive cars front tires wear out faster than the rear wheel tires, by a ratio of between 3 to 5 x.
Fact: you can't change that wear ratio by rotating tires.

Rotating tires just evens out the wear so that you buy 4 new tires at the same time.
Not rotating tires means that you wear out the front tires, and replace only the front tires.

The killer is all wheel drive all the time. The front and rear do not wear at the same rate due to turning, and to any differential issues in keeping the turning rates identical. So frequent rotation is highly recommended. I did not rotate the subaru tires frequently enough, and never got more than 40K miles out of a 60K rated tire, either front or back.

I do not recommend driving all wheel drive cars in florida

[Topspinmo]

LOL! on rotating tires on a front wheel drive car! I have driven front wheel drive cars since 1980, and never rotated tires once. All cars were driven at least 120K-140K miles.

Fact: front wheel drive cars front tires wear out faster than the rear wheel tires, by a ratio of between 3 to 5 x.
Fact: you can't change that wear ratio by rotating tires.

Rotating tires just evens out the wear so that you buy 4 new tires at the same time.
Not rotating tires means that you wear out the front tires, and replace only the front tires.

The killer is all wheel drive all the time. The front and rear do not wear at the same rate due to turning, and to any differential issues in keeping the turning rates identical. So frequent rotation is highly recommended. I did not rotate the subaru tires frequently enough, and never got more than 40K miles out of a 60K rated tire, either front or back.

I do not recommend driving all wheel drive cars in florida

So, you wore out a lot of tires?

I have never worn out tire since I was 21. I had to replace them due to age and cracks in side walls.

Fact: there reason some are coaches and some are mechanics.

[bob47]

Front tire wear exceeding the rear tires has to do with not balancing the tires, not the traffic circles.
If you think about it, the front tires are rotating on an axis going around a turn whilst the rear tires are still trying to go straight around the turn.

This is not exactly true. Steering linkage is designed so that all four tires are following the circumference of a circle and the four circles have different radii. If you want to understand how this works, google "Ackermann steering geometry".