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RaunchyRich
01-05-2021, 08:32 AM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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rjn5656
01-05-2021, 08:33 AM
Sheriff's run radar.
CWGUY
01-05-2021, 09:02 AM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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:police: The 6 Law enforcement agencies who cover The Villages. :oops:
JohnN
01-05-2021, 09:14 AM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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Nobody, it seems.
Topspinmo
01-05-2021, 09:34 AM
Rarely seen, but they are around.
Stu from NYC
01-05-2021, 09:50 AM
Thought it was a suggested speed limit
thelegges
01-05-2021, 12:43 PM
30 merging to 20 really means....45 accelerating to beat what ever is in the way. Occasionally a empty patrol car is placed to slow down traffic, but rarely do you ever see tickets given
giorgio1948
01-05-2021, 12:46 PM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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Drone cops are just around the corner :boom:
Stu from NYC
01-05-2021, 01:21 PM
Drone cops are just around the corner :boom:
Hopefully cameras mounted to traffic lights will not find their way here
billethkid
01-05-2021, 03:19 PM
In the past (5-10 years Ago) there used to be regular speed monitoring and tickets given.
In more recent years as was said above....one might see an active traffic monitoring....very rare.
As a result the speed of traffic on main roads has increased substantially.......stop signs and speed limits seem to be non existent.
Obviously not a priority (anymore).
Stu from NYC
01-05-2021, 05:07 PM
In the past (5-10 years Ago) there used to be regular speed monitoring and tickets given.
In more recent years as was said above....one might see an active traffic monitoring....very rare.
As a result the speed of traffic on main roads has increased substantially.......stop signs and speed limits seem to be non existent.
Obviously not a priority (anymore).
Apparently the county is flush with funds and does not need the police to fund themselves with ticket revenue
shut the front door
01-05-2021, 05:20 PM
They need to monitor the people driving 30 in a 45 in the left lane. This defines most of the pearl clutchers who are whining about speeders.
karostay
01-05-2021, 05:27 PM
The odds of getting struck by lightning are better than getting a speeding ticket
roob1
01-05-2021, 06:16 PM
Sumter County Sheriff was clocking cars on St Charles today.
vintageogauge
01-05-2021, 06:57 PM
There is a pretty good presence of them south of 44 both the county and Wildwood.
golfing eagles
01-05-2021, 07:00 PM
They need to monitor the people driving 30 in a 45 in the left lane. This defines most of the pearl clutchers who are whining about speeders.
Couldn't agree more. And the worst offenders are those that do it intentionally, because THEY feel 30 is fast enough. (In their own words from another thread)
Indy-Guy
01-05-2021, 07:31 PM
I would guess that more tickets are given during snowbird season. Reason most snowbirds are not registered to vote here and most tickets given in The Villages are issued by the sheriffs departments. Being a fulltime resident for 15 years this is what I have noticed.
Just my opinion and a heads up.
starflyte1
01-05-2021, 08:40 PM
30 merging to 20 really means....45 accelerating to beat what ever is in the way. Occasionally a empty car is placed to slow down traffic, but rarely do you ever see tickets given
I see tickets given on Morse north of 466, Buena Vista, north of 466 and El Camino Real regularly.
sdeikenberry
01-06-2021, 05:51 AM
Don't see radar cars out as much as in previous years on the north side. Lake and Sumter police/sheriff departments responsible. Have seen empty police cars parked in the grass beside a several roads for up to two weeks at a time...I don't know who they think they are kidding...it's easy to realize they are dummy cars with no occupant.
Two Bills
01-06-2021, 06:27 AM
Don't see radar cars out as much as in previous years on the north side. Lake and Sumter police/sheriff departments responsible. Have seen empty police cars parked in the grass beside a several roads for up to two weeks at a time...I don't know who they think they are kidding...it's easy to realize they are dummy cars with no occupant.
They do the same thing in UK and when every one is used to seeing the dummy car, the Old Bill stick the radar car in position, and have a field day catching speeders.
Skunky1
01-06-2021, 06:29 AM
Need to get law enforcement out of the parking lots and on patrol. They seem to be more reactive than proactive.
Eg_cruz
01-06-2021, 07:12 AM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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Villages roads are public roads so you local sheriff department and Lady Lake police department. Just because there are gates doesn’t make the roads any different then any other road in FL.
sterlingcnslts
01-06-2021, 07:33 AM
Sheriff Department runs radar on all the main roads regularly but some roads inside the gates are maintained as private property and they are not patrolled
golfing eagles
01-06-2021, 07:40 AM
Sheriff Department runs radar on all the main roads regularly but some roads inside the gates are maintained as private property and they are not patrolled
As far as I know, it is only the roads in the villa areas that are not county owned, and those roads are hardly prone to speeding
Remlod
01-06-2021, 07:46 AM
Wildwood Police monitoring Warm Spring and Southern Morse regularly.
Girlcopper
01-06-2021, 07:55 AM
In the past (5-10 years Ago) there used to be regular speed monitoring and tickets given.
In more recent years as was said above....one might see an active traffic monitoring....very rare.
As a result the speed of traffic on main roads has increased substantially.......stop signs and speed limits seem to be non existent.
Obviously not a priority (anymore).
Was never a priority. Police have better things to do than explain to people all day long that thy shouldnt speed. People should be monitoring themsellves and quit shoving every trivial issue onto the cops
Mohawksin
01-06-2021, 07:56 AM
As far as I know, it is only the roads in the villa areas that are not county owned, and those roads are hardly prone to speeding
Hardly prone to speeding? WRONG The posted speed limit in the all the villa areas I've been in is 10 MPH. Almost ALL cars and carts are speeding.
richs631
01-06-2021, 08:14 AM
Nobody, it seems.
Speed in Pine Hills or Pine Ridge and I can almost guarantee you a ticket
golfing eagles
01-06-2021, 08:35 AM
Hardly prone to speeding? WRONG The posted speed limit in the all the villa areas I've been in is 10 MPH. Almost ALL cars and carts are speeding.
I'll defer to you since I've never driven in a villa area. That being said, 10 mph is ridiculous, my car idles faster than that. I wouldn't expect LEO's to monitor that, and I don't think going 13 in a 10 zone qualifies as "speeding", anymore than being 3 pounds overweight qualifies as "fat"
Bill14564
01-06-2021, 08:47 AM
Hardly prone to speeding? WRONG The posted speed limit in the all the villa areas I've been in is 10 MPH. Almost ALL cars and carts are speeding.
Agree with GE above that 10 mph is ridiculous. If I read correctly, the default speed limit in parking lots in Florida is 15 mph. Now maybe the driveways in the Villas are closer than spaces in parking lots or maybe there are more vehicles or maybe there are more people moving around, but I doubt it.
A great way to ensure speed limits are ignored are to set them unreasonably low.
jabacon6669
01-06-2021, 08:49 AM
This past Sunday I saw a Sumter country patrol car riding around in Hadley. Last evening, (Tuesday) around 8:30pm while traveling on Morse, coming from LSL, I saw a patrol car off on the grass, I'm sure he was doing radar. All roads in TV, are ways in which the public has the right of access. So, all roads would be subject to all traffic laws as set out by the State. And, all roads would be under the jurisdiction of state, county, and local authorities. Being new here, I don't believe TV has it's own empowered PD. Most calls for service to your home I'm guessing would be answered by the County PD.
Bill1701
01-06-2021, 08:52 AM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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Short answer - no one. In theory it is the local sheriff's and police departments, but unless there are complaints I don't see them out very often.
Mulliganguy
01-06-2021, 08:54 AM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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Most of the people in the villages have accomplished their lifelong goals with the exception of one and that is to pass the person in front of them.
coconutmama
01-06-2021, 09:01 AM
Who actually monitors the speed limit inside the Village gates?
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Have seen an unmarked car in Hillsboro & Osceola Hills. Same car that does home checks.
RaunchyRich
01-06-2021, 09:01 AM
Excellent information!
beeneyra
01-06-2021, 09:19 AM
Ask your friend(wink, wink) to stop in the sheriff's office and talk to the officer in charge. That should get there attention, along with all your home town friendliness neighbors.
rfssml@gmail.com
01-06-2021, 09:21 AM
Sheriff's run radar.
Ha Ha
OhioBuckeye
01-06-2021, 09:23 AM
I would say TV police or Sheriff, because they are county roads. The roads are maintained by the county so I would say local authority police them! Correct me if I’m wrong.
photo1902
01-06-2021, 09:23 AM
This past Sunday I saw a Sumter country patrol car riding around in Hadley. Last evening, (Tuesday) around 8:30pm while traveling on Morse, coming from LSL, I saw a patrol car off on the grass, I'm sure he was doing radar. All roads in TV, are ways in which the public has the right of access. So, all roads would be subject to all traffic laws as set out by the State. And, all roads would be under the jurisdiction of state, county, and local authorities. Being new here, I don't believe TV has it's own empowered PD. Most calls for service to your home I'm guessing would be answered by the County PD.
Villa roads are not county roads. And there is no "County PD" here. All of the counties here have Sheriff's Departments
John_W
01-06-2021, 09:27 AM
Monday after shopping at Colony, I was westbound on 466A and about 1/4 mile past the Morse red light a Sumter County Deputy was facing traffic was sitting in his car in the grass median. I had seen this about 4 times in the last two years. I was doing 50 in a 45 and he didn't stop me. This is right across from Havana (Kilimanjaro) nine.
I did get stopped one year ago in December on Powell Rd northbound, which I travel several days a week going to MVP at Brownwood. It's the same road the gold dome and Alden Bungalows are on. They also have built the new Sumter Sheriff Headquarters on that road just south of the gold dome. You don't see it because it sits back about 300 yards down a small road. Anyway, I was going 50 in a 35, most cars do 40 to 45 on that road. He just gave me a warning, he was real nice guy. I told him at the time I watched Live PD every week and said, real police work is not like that.
DaleDivine
01-06-2021, 10:42 AM
My neighbor across the street got a ticket last year in his golf cart.
On Stillwater by an officer coming toward him with radar.
He got a lawyer and the case was dismissed, charges were dropped.
:clap2::clap2:
golfing eagles
01-06-2021, 10:46 AM
My neighbor across the street got a ticket last year in his golf cart.
On Stillwater by an officer coming toward him with radar.
He got a lawyer and the case was dismissed, charges were dropped.
:clap2::clap2:
Was it a street legal cart, on Stillwater proper going over 25???? If it was on the MMP the police cannot write speeding tickets (but can cite you for DUI or open container)
Correction-----was it on Stillwater between Morse and Odell, where it is a cart lane alongside the main roadway, in which case you CAN get a ticket?
John_W
01-06-2021, 10:46 AM
My neighbor across the street got a ticket last year in his golf cart.
On Stillwater by an officer coming toward him with radar.
He got a lawyer and the case was dismissed, charges were dropped.
:clap2::clap2:
At Stillwater the cart has to be on a MMP. Those are off limits to police for speeding because it is private property is what I've always heard and seen. However, I have heard they can enforce DUI and open container laws on the MMP because you're a operating a motor vehicle impaired.
golfing eagles
01-06-2021, 10:48 AM
At Stillwater the cart has to be on a MMP. Those are off limits to police for speeding because it is private property is what I've always heard and seen. However, I have heard they can enforce DUI and open container laws on the MMP because you're a operating a motor vehicle impaired.
I think you made the same error I did, see my corrected post
cmeinel@verizon.net
01-06-2021, 10:59 AM
When I visited was pulled over and given a warning
John_W
01-06-2021, 11:12 AM
O'Dell, that's also Bailey's Trail which I travel anytime I go to Mallory, Arnold Palmer or Glenview. For five years I had my Yamaha sped up to 25 and I found it really ran better at 22 mph. About 3 years ago I dialed it back to 20, and no more worries when I'm on the side of the road. I'm also on St. Charles a lot, which is the same, it's a cart path. It's best to stay 20 or get a speedometer and lighten up when your not on an MMP. However, legally if your cart can go faster than 20 even though you're not, it's an illegal cart and can get ticketed. The problem that guy faced was, yes he got it dismissed, but he also paid a lawyer probably $500 which would have been the same amount as a ticket and court costs had he lost, plus he spent a day in Bushnell.
Fuzz323
01-06-2021, 11:17 AM
Apparently the county is flush with funds and does not need the police to fund themselves with ticket revenue
...used to tell the clever folks that came up with this little gem that there was no quota as we were allowed to write as many as we wanted and furthermore their taxes were paying my salary!! Back when the speed limit was 55mph (UGH) I never wrote a ticket till the clock was 70mph or over. :boxing2:
ts12755
01-06-2021, 11:31 AM
My neighbor.
John_W
01-06-2021, 11:36 AM
...used to tell the clever folks that came up with this little gem that there was no quota as we were allowed to write as many as we wanted and furthermore their taxes were paying my salary!! Back when the speed limit was 55mph (UGH) I never wrote a ticket till the clock was 70mph or over. :boxing2:
I was watching Pawn Stars last night on History Channel, it's the Las Vegas Pawn Shop run by three brothers. A guy brought in the driver's copy of a speeding ticket issued to Sammy Hagar for speeding in a 55 mph zone in a Ferrari.
For those who don't know, Sammy had a big hit in '84 "I Can't Drive 55". As it turned, they had an expert who said it was probably Sammy's signature, but it's only a copy of the ticket, the police have the real copy. The guy wanted $2,000 but they passed on buying.
HIgolfers
01-06-2021, 12:00 PM
Speed in Pine Hills or Pine Ridge and I can almost guarantee you a ticket
Agreed. Fruitland Park police frequently stop cars on Moyer Loop for speeding.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-06-2021, 01:34 PM
Nobody, it seems.
I recently witnessed an emergency that required the police to be called. It took an awful long time. This was in Lady Lake. I was surprised to see the Sumter County Sheriff's car arrive. When I asked why they took so long, I was told that there are only two cars covering Lake County and that they were in Tavares at the scene of an armed robbery.
First of all, I don't know why the Sumter County Sheriff is covering Lake County and second of all with an area the size of Lake county it's incomprehensible that there are only two cars covering.
So I would think that speeding tickets are pretty low on the priority list.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-06-2021, 01:36 PM
...used to tell the clever folks that came up with this little gem that there was no quota as we were allowed to write as many as we wanted and furthermore their taxes were paying my salary!! Back when the speed limit was 55mph (UGH) I never wrote a ticket till the clock was 70mph or over. :boxing2:
I was good friends with a police officer up north. He confirmed that there is no actual quota but if you didn't write a reasonable number of tickets they may have considered that you were sleeping in the cruiser and not doing your job.
DaleDivine
01-06-2021, 02:33 PM
O'Dell, that's also Bailey's Trail which I travel anytime I go to Mallory, Arnold Palmer or Glenview. For five years I had my Yamaha sped up to 25 and I found it really ran better at 22 mph. About 3 years ago I dialed it back to 20, and no more worries when I'm on the side of the road. I'm also on St. Charles a lot, which is the same, it's a cart path. It's best to stay 20 or get a speedometer and lighten up when your not on an MMP. However, legally if your cart can go faster than 20 even though you're not, it's an illegal cart and can get ticketed. The problem that guy faced was, yes he got it dismissed, but he also paid a lawyer probably $500 which would have been the same amount as a ticket and court costs had he lost, plus he spent a day in Bushnell.
My neighbor was driving in the cart lane on Stillwater. Lawyer cost him $3000.00.
Per the law, it's a felony if you go to court and lose. Annnnd it will be on your record forever.
:faint:
Stu from NYC
01-06-2021, 03:32 PM
I was good friends with a police officer up north. He confirmed that there is no actual quota but if you didn't write a reasonable number of tickets they may have considered that you were sleeping in the cruiser and not doing your job.
Apparently a quote depends upon the jurisdiction, suspect some town councils tell the local sheriff that the dept should pay for itself via traffic tickets.
John41
01-06-2021, 03:42 PM
Apparently a quota depends upon the jurisdiction, suspect some town councils tell the local sheriff that the dept should pay for itself via traffic tickets.
This is true and going north on 301 there is a big billboard warning motorists of an upcoming speed trap. AAA used to publish a list of speed traps.
retiredguy123
01-06-2021, 03:52 PM
Hardly prone to speeding? WRONG The posted speed limit in the all the villa areas I've been in is 10 MPH. Almost ALL cars and carts are speeding.
They need to hire retired mall cops who are used to enforcing the 5 mph speed limits in parking garages. I remember the mall cop who stopped a lady in a parking garage and said:
"Ma'am, do you know how fast you were going?"
"No" she said.
"I clocked you at 7 mph!"
Neils
01-06-2021, 04:01 PM
They need to hire retired mall cops who are used to enforcing the 5 mph speed limits in parking garages. I remember the mall cop who stopped a lady in a parking garage and said:
"Ma'am, do you know how fast you were going?"
"No" she said.
"I clocked you at 7 mph!"
Paul Barth could be available.
Stu from NYC
01-06-2021, 05:04 PM
This is true and going north on 301 there is a big billboard warning motorists of an upcoming speed trap. AAA used to publish a list of speed traps.
At one point there was actually a national registry of speed traps and for the past 30 years lived about a half mile away from one.
John_W
01-06-2021, 05:44 PM
It's best to stay 20 or get a speedometer and lighten up when your not on an MMP. However, legally if your cart can go faster than 20 even though you're not, it's an illegal cart and can get ticketed. The problem that guy faced was, yes he got it dismissed, but he also paid a lawyer probably $500 which would have been the same amount as a ticket and court costs had he lost, plus he spent a day in Bushnell.
My neighbor was driving in the cart lane on Stillwater. Lawyer cost him $3000.00.
Per the law, it's a felony if you go to court and lose. Annnnd it will be on your record forever.
:faint:
I said a lawyer was $500, same as ticket, $3000 makes it six times worse than paying the unregistered vehicle ticket. It's not a felony, a violation of the registration requirement is a second degree misdemeanor punishable with up to a $500 fine.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-07-2021, 07:33 AM
Apparently a quote depends upon the jurisdiction, suspect some town councils tell the local sheriff that the dept should pay for itself via traffic tickets.
I don't think that was a case of bringing in revenue. It was more about officers slacking off during shifts. Some of them would literally go behind a shopping mall or some other secluded area and sleep.
Mendy
01-07-2021, 07:55 AM
I’ve seen a patrol car on the grass on 466A between Morse and Buena Vista 4 times in the past 2 weeks. Three of the times were after dark.
wbadger
01-08-2021, 05:46 AM
Did experiment yesterday at 4PM. Drove from Villages hospital to the Savannah Center on ElCamino. Set speed control at 35 (speed limit). Passed no cars but 15 passed me, most doing 40-45 (estimate) with a couple well over 50 (estimate). One of the cars was even a Sumter County sheriff. Appears powers to be do not want Villages to be known as a speed trap.
Polar Bear
01-08-2021, 03:20 PM
I don't think that was a case of bringing in revenue. It was more about officers slacking off during shifts. Some of them would literally go behind a shopping mall or some other secluded area and sleep.
Can't help but wonder how you'd know that...especially the part about "some other secluded area".
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