Places to avoid buying due to location?

[LMBNY]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!

[2newyorkers]

Stay away from the waste treatment plants.

[sam&rog]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

[villagetinker]

Do a search on this site, this questions has been asked multiple times with lots of good answers.

[thelegges]

What is a problem for one person, may not be a problem for you. Many rent before buying. We took 3 years before we bought.

[LMBNY]

Do a search on this site, this questions has been asked multiple times with lots of good answers.


Ack! Sorry. Will do. Maybe I was using the wrong search terms..

P.S. My daughter goes to Muhlenberg! ;)

[retiredguy123]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!
In my opinion, the things you mentioned are not very significant. If you can afford it, I would by a house with a nice view. It will always be easy to sell. Also, avoid houses that are near a road with traffic noise. The turnpike is the worst, but many of the interior roads should also be avoided.

[JohnN]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

and the prison

[mills3186]

Quarry blasts are once a month. Areas directly next to the turnpike can be noisy but the majority of the areas south of 44 cannot hear the turnpike at all.

[soonerforever]

In my opinion, the things you mentioned are not very significant. If you can afford it, I would by a house with a nice view. It will always be easy to sell. Also, avoid houses that are near a road with traffic noise. The turnpike is the worst, but many of the interior roads should also be avoided.

We live in Monarch Grove and though you can hear traffic on the turnpike occasionally, you don't really notice it most of the time...I wouldn't trade living here to the traffic congestion and noise around LSL or SS anytime.

[Marathon Man]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

and the prison

Turnpike - not a problem. Quarry - not a problem. Prison - not a problem.

[John41]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!

Topography. Slopes from North to South.. Lots in the South often filled in swamps. Train noise on the western edge of The Villages. Sinkholes seem more common in northern section. Lightning capital and allergy capital of the US. Avoid sewer plants.

[Garywt]

When we bought we wanted new and to be connected by cart paths so we bought a new Villa way up north. Had looked at designer homes but decided we did not want to be slaves to a big house in retirement. The Villa is great size, great privacy and perfect for us. We can hear the train which we love. The important this was to be able to get to the centers. Now that the bridges are opening it is not as important. The one place we did avoid is the historic section, nothing wrong just not our cup of tea.

[vintageogauge]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

Only a very small percentage of the "new areas" are near the turnpike and quarry.

[Two Bills]

Plenty of places to rent. Stay in different locations, travel around, and make your own decision.
For my two cents, as advised, avoid water treatment areas, and I would make sure any location I fancied was not on a through route for either car or cart.
The rest is personal preference.

[LoisR]

Stay away from all new areas. No shopping, no medical services, poor recreation services, few golf courses. Will take years to build.

[Rwirish]

South of 44.

[sdeikenberry]

We live in Monarch Grove and though you can hear traffic on the turnpike occasionally, you don't really notice it most of the time...I wouldn't trade living here to the traffic congestion and noise around LSL or SS anytime.

LSL can get congested in the square, but Spanish Springs does not get congested like LSL...it's a mistake to compare them. We live just south of Spanish Springs and enjoy being within 4 minute golf cart ride to all the shopping we need, and 10 minutes to Lowes, and 15 to WalMart by golf cart. Can't beat that convenience, plus our neighborhood is very quiet because it has no thru streets...just sayin'

[thevillagernie]

Just stay away from busy highways...people now buy houses site-un-seen..go there and listen......

[NoMo50]

Just stay away from busy highways...people now buy houses site-un-seen..go there and listen......

Good advice, and an extension to that would be: Go to a prospective property at night and listen. You might be amazed at how much more noticeable noise from the turnpike is at night, versus in the day when there are other sounds competing for your attention.

[nick demis]

We came down, are renting for several months and found a great lot in St Catherine to build on. We were prepared to wait longer until we found exactly the lot we wanted. The new areas may not be as developed with golf courses and activities now but in a couple of years, it will probably be the more desirable place. I have met several people who have been here for years and are considering moving because it has gotten to hectic in the older villages.

[l2ridehd]

Everyone has a different opinion about this and what bothers them. However if it bothers anyone it impacts value and resale. So being next to the turnpike does not bother those that bought there, they will tell you the noise isn’t bad. For them it isn’t. But if you grew up in the country where you never heard traffic it would bother you. But if anything bother some folks it impacts value. So my response is what bothers others and therefor impacts value.

Being close or backing to a busy street, turn[ike, Morse, Stillwater, Buena Vista, etc.
Being next to or close to a treatment plant.
Being close to the power lines
Being close to the railraod tracks
Being close to a golf cart path
Being on the water. There are more bugs and critters.
Backing to another house. Kissing Lanai’s.
Being close to prior sinkholes.
Being close to the prisons and quarries.
Backing to a rec center
Being on a golf course next to a tee box
Backing to land not owned by the villages
Backing to any shopping venue.

Not all these things bother everyone. Some even seek some of these things out. But if you look at a pool of 100 buyers, some of them will not buy because of those items. And that impacts value. At one time I built spread sheets with resale value impact based on sales data. Just as an example, being next to the power line will impact your sale price by 9%. Now lots of folks near the XXXX will argue that they love being next to the XXXX. And I am sure they do. But not everyone does. And that is how you have to think about finding the best location.

[HJBeck]

Any area near sewage treatment plant, gets very gross at times ( depends on wind direction and, speed. Unless you routinely go to bed before 9 pm, we have not seen any issues with traffic noise even from Bueno... and Morse. TV is pretty dead after 9 pm. As for sinkholes, the map of historical sink holes shows all the previous ones to be on earth elevations between 65 and 85 feet. We are in a location higher then 110 feet which doesn’t give me any real concern. Still suggest you get sinkhole protection coverage.

[arbajeda]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

Blasts maybe once every other month. But be wary of turnpike noise.

[Two Bills]

Stay away from all new areas. No shopping, no medical services, poor recreation services, few golf courses. Will take years to build.

BS! There is everything within 15 minutes journey.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

O'Dell Circle has some big hills. Could be a problem driving after a big snow storm.:1rotfl:

[Marathon Man]

Stay away from all new areas. No shopping, no medical services, poor recreation services, few golf courses. Will take years to build.

More myths about Southern Oaks that will not die.

[jbrown132]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!

It really depends on your live style. If you like night life you may want to live near the town squares. You can buy properties where you can actually walk to them or just a one or two minute golf cart ride. If you prefer a slower life you may like it a little further out. One thing you do mot want to do is buy a house neat a pickle ball court. It will drive you nuts.

[Bosoxfan]

Stay away from all new areas. No shopping, no medical services, poor recreation services, few golf courses. Will take years to build.

Wow...all that you mentioned are a short drive away.

[vintageogauge]

Stay away from all new areas. No shopping, no medical services, poor recreation services, few golf courses. Will take years to build.

The new areas are less than 10 minutes from The Villages Health Brownwood Specialty Care Center, less than 10 minutes from the new 24 hours UF Villages Health Emergency Room, 15 minutes from UF Leesburg Hospital, at least a dozen restaurants within 20 minutes, there are all recreation amenities there including the new softball fields, soccer and basketball, beach volley ball, air rifle, archery, 5 executive golf courses, a pitch and putt course, and a 27 hole course under construction. located in the new area is Everglade, the largest of all regional recreation centers sitting on 50 acres with all the old and new amenities. The village of Fenney is the most populous of all villages and has it's own rec. center with coffee shop, sports pool, adult pool, family pool, pickle ball, bocce, corn toss, shuffleboard, putt and play, croquet, lawn bowling, walking and nature trails, and is the only village that has a bar and grill next to the rec. center. Magnolia shopping plaza will be open within the next 60 to 90 days as will the turnpike bridge connecting the new areas to the north. Sawgrass indoor market place with restaurant and entertainment is now under construction and a new 400 acre UF hospital and medical facility is under construction. It is also less than 10 minutes to Paddock Square in Brownwood. South of 44 is the happening place and a lot less traffic. If you want traffic and a bunch of retail stores the new area is not for you. If you want everything else within easy reach in a more relaxed environment then you want south of 44.

[Hackercraft]

The title pretty much covers this post but just in case you didn’t read it TURNPIKES AKE NOISE. Don’t buy property in the news southern sections and then expect the developers to put up noise barriers after the fact. We live in Monarch Grove and have a Veranda with a walled in back yard for the for baby and even though the turnpike is less than a mile away we never hear it.

[chvlt57]

I agree with the poster who says it is a personal decision; we back up to a busy road but enjoy watching the activity, on the other hand my wife would hate being near a pickleball court and the related tick, tick, tick.

[sallyg]

If you can rent for a while it would help you decide on an area you prefer. TV is so huge, with so many variables, including home styles, you can't think of everything. If proximity to a rec center is important that might influence you, but then there is noise from the pickle ball courts. Want a water view? There could be mosquitos or unpleasant odors when the water gets low. Good luck.

[B-flat]

The first year we rented in Chatham in the far north end near highway 42. We decided we’d maybe like to rent in a different location the following year. With that said we drove and looked for a rental south of 466. All it took was about 30 minutes to realize we didn’t want to be south of 466 we found too much traffic for our taste. Later than same year we bought in Calumet Grove near Chatham. We like the mature landscaping on Buena Vista Blvd. vs. the barren feeling in some areas further south. There’s a seat for every butt.

[coffeebean]

We live in Monarch Grove and though you can hear traffic on the turnpike occasionally, you don't really notice it most of the time...I wouldn't trade living here to the traffic congestion and noise around LSL or SS anytime.

Traffic congestion is relative to what you are used to before moving to The Villages. This traffic we have here in the LSL area during high season is NOTHING compared to traffic on Long Island and South Florida where I spent many years in high volume traffic. Living in Mallory Square which is close to the 441/27 corridor, this traffic is a walk in the park.

The rest of the year, the traffic is pretty much non existent and more like a ghost town.

[coffeebean]

Turnpike - not a problem. Quarry - not a problem. Prison - not a problem.

Turnpike - BIG problem if you do not wish to listen to constant traffic din

Quarry - problem if you do not want your house to rattle a couple of times a month

Prison - problem if you do not want the flood lights visible from your property at night or the faint sound of announcements

I must confide that I do not live south of 44 so I do not have any personal experience with what I have said in this post. I have, however, read many many posts from people who DO have first hand experience with all three issues mentioned. Search this forum and you will find plenty of info about what it’s like living near the Turnpike, the quarry and the prison.

[Chitown]

I find it very interesting that people who live north of 44 give such dyer warnings about the turnpike and blasting noise. I live in a new home near Everglades Recreational Center and NEVER have we heard a blasting noise, we have NEVER seen flood lights or the slightest sound coming from the Federal prison. As far as the turnpike, we almost never hear it and if the wind is strong and blowing in the right direction you may hear the slightest traffic noise if your outside late at night. It is quiet and peaceful down her as well.

[vintageogauge]

Turnpike - BIG problem if you do not wish to listen to constant traffic din

Quarry - problem if you do not want your house to rattle a couple of times a month

Prison - problem if you do not want the flood lights visible from your property at night or the faint sound of announcements

I must confide that I do not live south of 44 so I do not have any personal experience with what I have said in this post. I have, however, read many many posts from people who DO have first hand experience with all three issues mentioned. Search this forum and you will find plenty of info about what it’s like living near the Turnpike, the quarry and the prison.

No sense in debating this very popular area when those that don't live here have a mindset is stuck in neutral.

[sallyg]

Turnpike - BIG problem if you do not wish to listen to constant traffic din

Quarry - problem if you do not want your house to rattle a couple of times a month

Prison - problem if you do not want the flood lights visible from your property at night or the faint sound of announcements

I must confide that I do not live south of 44 so I do not have any personal experience with what I have said in this post. I have, however, read many many posts from people who DO have first hand experience with all three issues mentioned. Search this forum and you will find plenty of info about what it’s like living near the Turnpike, the quarry and the prison.

We are in Marsh Bend and do not know why there are so many comments like the one above. It is lovely and quiet.

[coffeebean]

I agree with the poster who says it is a personal decision; we back up to a busy road but enjoy watching the activity, on the other hand my wife would hate being near a pickleball court and the related tick, tick, tick.

I would describe that pickle ball sound like a high pitched “ping, ping, ping.

[rmd2]

I would describe that pickle ball sound like a high pitched “ping, ping, ping.

Pickle ball sounds like "bok, bok, bok." I was glad I heard it before I bought a house near a rec center. I knew that sound at 7:30 am would not be welcome.

[kenoc7]

Plenty of places to rent. Stay in different locations, travel around, and make your own decision.
For my two cents, as advised, avoid water treatment areas, and I would make sure any location I fancied was not on a through route for either car or cart.
The rest is personal preference.
The best area is the north end - quiet, little traffic and it has lots of trees.

[Topspinmo]

Turnpike - not a problem. Quarry - not a problem. Prison - not a problem.

Unless you live close to them :icon_wink:

[Topspinmo]

We are in Marsh Bend and do not know why there are so many comments like the one above. It is lovely and quiet.


Maybe you’re far enough away where it’s not problem? I can hear 301 traffic when wind from the west and I’m 2 miles from it, never hear it indoors.

[meridian5850]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

I live in Fenney and it's maybe once a month. :rolleyes:

[Topspinmo]

No sense in debating this very popular area when those that don't live here have a mindset is stuck in neutral.

Maybe the ones that are complaining are the ones that live within yards of turnpike. Or where quarry right across the pasture. Naturally if they don’t live close it not going to bother them.

[VILLAGER 2011]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!
South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential

[soonerforever]

Maybe you’re far enough away where it’s not problem? I can hear 301 traffic when wind from the west and I’m 2 miles from it, never hear it indoors.

We live less than a quarter mile from it....been here since September...the noise is NOT an issue.

[vintageogauge]

South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential

Where did you come up with that one. During Irma the only places that got flooded were up north, no problems at all south of 44, not even a power loss for a minute. When we bought our home south of 44 we checked to see if it was in a flood zone and it is not. The flood control ponds down here do there job very well.

[HRDave]

We bought a Patio Villa in Chitty Chatty last September after much research & deliberation. We studied The Villages maps & looked for a combination of privacy, beauty & less of the “packed in” feeling. We absolutely love the Chitty Chatty/ Bradford area & the development going on South of 44. We’re connected to “The Mainland “ by the Chitty Chatty bridge, 4 minutes to a beautiful Publix, Walgreens, Marathon Gas, and best of all Paisano’s Italian restaurant. A beautiful 20 minute cart ride to Brownwood (Paddock Square) via Morse & Hillsboro & now the newly opened Brownwood Bridge. Two beautiful Rec. centers minutes away (Rohan & Aviary) a beautiful new Shopping center coming soon (Magnolia Center) and much much more in the coming years. Couldn’t be happier!😎

[Stu from NYC]

Strongly suggest renting for a month or more and travel around and see what appeals to you.

Buying a house near the prison can be convenient if you have friends and family there.

[HRDave]

South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential

During our research we checked extensively on flood risk & found that the geological flood maps are old & out dated. The Villages developers have significantly changed the topography in the developing areas & their flood control measures are extraordinary. Yup, we’re surrounded by swap preserves, but we’re well above the flood plain. State Farm Insurance even confirmed this prior to insuring our Villa.

[springfield]

I think every area has advantages and disadvantages. We were going to build when we moved here 10 years ago. I kept looking at a preowned on line. Before we made an offer, I parked at the mailboxes and walked the neighborhood. I met so many friendly and helpful people on those walks. It just felt right. The home we did buy had many upgrades from previous owners. We still love our home and neighborhood, so glad we didn’t build. My advice is get a feel for the neighborhood. Good luck in your search.

[Rmiller622]

You should come for the “lifestyle experience”. You can stay up to 7 days fir minimal cost. People love being between Brownwood & Lake Sumter Landing.

I highly recommend that you rent for a yesr to get sure it’s where you want to live. I rented my 1st place and hated every second. My new place in Duval is the best!!
Good luck.

[Shadia328]

You left out the prison.

[John41]

strongly suggest renting for a month or more and travel around and see what appeals to you.

Buying a house near the prison can be convenient if you have friends and family there.

lol

[cbmerl]

Turnpike - not a problem. Quarry - not a problem. Prison - not a problem.

Ditto. Ditto and DITTO!!

[panamachica]

Stay away from sewage treatment plants and you don’t want to be ear shot to pickle ball courts.

[stebooo]

North of 466a

[cegallup]

Strongly suggest renting for a month or more and travel around and see what appeals to you.

Buying a house near the prison can be convenient if you have friends and family there.

My kind of Village humor !

[jimjamuser]

If you can rent for a while it would help you decide on an area you prefer. TV is so huge, with so many variables, including home styles, you can't think of everything. If proximity to a rec center is important that might influence you, but then there is noise from the pickle ball courts. Want a water view? There could be mosquitos or unpleasant odors when the water gets low. Good luck.
At my lake in the northern area, there can be some nasty odors if the water gets low in a drought period. It consists of gas produced from drying, dead lake vegetation. Rarely see mosquitoes anywhere I go in TV Land.

[Kerndan]

Not sure but we are going to put our home on the market soon if you want to take a look or walk through beforehand.

[valuemkt]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

Hey guys, do you live in the "new area" ? I do, and can tell you categorically you don;t know what you;re talking about

[vintageogauge]

Hey guys, do you live in the "new area" ? I do, and can tell you categorically you don;t know what you;re talking about

These naysayers have been bashing the south for years. You are correct in the fact that they have no idea how great it is living down here. I'm not singling out any of the negative replies but the bashing is most likely jealousy manifested by the fact that their parents loved their siblings more than they. That happens when you have children with negative personalities.

[Boomer]

The advice to rent is the best advice you are getting in this thread.

Take your time.

Do not get caught up in the sense of urgency that often is an immediate motivator when it comes to sales -- sales of any kind. But with buying a house, it is especially and obviously of top importance to think things through. Look before you leap. Visit. Rent. Try to experience all the things you think you would want to do if you owned in TV.

In addition to the price, the location, the model and all that other surface stuff, I strongly advise you to get the feel of the place. "Feel" is an intangible. When it comes to choosing where you want to live, getting the feel first is something that can get skipped. How does TV 2021 feel to you? Do you think you would like the fit?

I can tell you that since we bought, as snowbirds, in 2013, after visiting and renting since 2007, the feel has changed. Some of that is due to the enormous growth of TV and what that is doing to the ratios of people to things they want to do. And there are other things that contribute to the feel of the place, too.

Bottom line: Get the feel.

Boomer

[George Page]

More myths about Southern Oaks that will not die.

Do the math......the further south you go, the thinner the amenities get. I walk to Sumter Landing not a food truck. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

[vintageogauge]

Do the math......the further south you go, the thinner the amenities get. I walk to Sumter Landing not a food truck. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

The further south you go the more new amenities are being built that are unique to the southern villages. Not everyone wants to live within walking distance to the squares and listen to the noise all evening. Within the next 60 to 90 days it will be a short golf car ride to the squares if in fact we want to go that route, personally I would sooner take a car. We are less than 10 minutes from many great restaurants and also have the more relaxed atmosphere of Edna's on the green with adult beverages, entertainment, and the food trucks all of which are very popular and attract many people that live north of 44.

[Villagesgal]

Pick a property you like and a home plan that works for you. I'm on a championship golf course, love the view all these years later, had the house built, so it's exactly how we wanted it, still love the house too. Buy what you want, not what others may want. You will be living in it, not them. The County sprays for mosquitoes in season, so don't worry too much about that. Enjoy!

[DotComMom]

Everyone has a different opinion about this and what bothers them. However if it bothers anyone it impacts value and resale. So being next to the turnpike does not bother those that bought there, they will tell you the noise isn’t bad. For them it isn’t. But if you grew up in the country where you never heard traffic it would bother you. But if anything bother some folks it impacts value. So my response is what bothers others and therefor impacts value.

Being close or backing to a busy street, turn[ike, Morse, Stillwater, Buena Vista, etc.
Being next to or close to a treatment plant.
Being close to the power lines
Being close to the railraod tracks
Being close to a golf cart path
Being on the water. There are more bugs and critters.
Backing to another house. Kissing Lanai’s.
Being close to prior sinkholes.
Being close to the prisons and quarries.
Backing to a rec center
Being on a golf course next to a tee box
Backing to land not owned by the villages
Backing to any shopping venue.

Not all these things bother everyone. Some even seek some of these things out. But if you look at a pool of 100 buyers, some of them will not buy because of those items. And that impacts value. At one time I built spread sheets with resale value impact based on sales data. Just as an example, being next to the power line will impact your sale price by 9%. Now lots of folks near the XXXX will argue that they love being next to the XXXX. And I am sure they do. But not everyone does. And that is how you have to think about finding the best location.

Why “backing to land not owned by the The Villages”?

[kendi]

Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.

We live in the new area and have never heard a blast. Turnpike is no big deal. It’s wonderful down here.

[John_W]

Why “backing to land not owned by the The Villages”?

I can give you an example in my village of Tamarind Grove off St. Charles Blvd. Those who bought homes on the west side of TG on the streets Ansley Path and Tamarind Grove Run and in the Village of St. James on Chesapeake Place. When they purchased those homes new in 2011 and 2012 they had big open fields behind their homes with cows grazing. Here is a satellite map of how the land looked before 2017, the red line is TV boundary.

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Villages,+FL/@28.8707334,-82.0136833,1563m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e7c1561da39a99:0x553b1 29a94b4af67!8m2!3d28.927019!4d-82.0037608)

That all changed in 2017 when they started excavation there was a dust storm for six months in our area and those homes now have backyard views of the back of Lowes, Publix and soon to be built Apartments. That's Trailwinds Village, a commercial park. TV offered to buy the land but the City of Wildwood wouldn't approve the purchase, they didn't want another 2,000 new homes. Honestly I glad they didn't, the golf courses in our area would of been saturated and 466A would of been unbearable. I appreciate those new stores. The lesson learned is, vacant land in Florida unless it's protected will be built on someday.

Here is how it looks now. I didn't mention Beaumont Properties, they are due west of Trailwinds have been building townhomes, Apartments and single family homes for past year. Those are directly south of Tamarind Grove Run on the west end.

https://barclaygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Trailwinds-Village-Marketing-Flyer-3-1500x630.jpg

[vintageogauge]

I can give you an example in my village of Tamarind Grove off St. Charles Blvd. Those who bought homes on the west side of TG on the streets Ansley Path and Tamarind Grove Run and in the Village of St. James on Chesapeake Place. When they purchased those homes new in 2011 and 2012 they had big open fields behind their homes with cows grazing. Here is a satellite map of how the land looked before 2017, the red line is TV boundary.

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Villages,+FL/@28.8707334,-82.0136833,1563m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e7c1561da39a99:0x553b1 29a94b4af67!8m2!3d28.927019!4d-82.0037608)

That all changed in 2017 when they started excavation there was a dust storm for six months in our area and those homes now have backyard views of the back of Lowes, Publix and soon to be built Apartments. That's Trailwinds Village, a commercial park. TV offered to buy the land but the City of Wildwood wouldn't approve the purchase, they didn't want another 2,000 new homes. Honestly I glad they didn't, the golf courses in our area would of been saturated and 466A would of been unbearable. I appreciate those new stores. The lesson learned is, vacant land in Florida unless it's protected will be built on someday.

Here is how it looks now. I didn't mention Beaumont Properties, they are due west of Trailwinds have been building townhomes, Apartments and single family homes for past year. Those are directly south of Tamarind Grove Run on the west end.

https://barclaygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Trailwinds-Village-Marketing-Flyer-3-1500x630.jpg

And all of those new homes and apartments will add to the congestion in the area, fill the squares, and many will join the championship courses. We looked at a re-sale home on the golf course across from the Beaumont property before we bought south of 44, the homeowner thought we would be excited to know that stores were coming so near to his house, we were not excited and chose not to buy it although it was a beautiful home.

[Just Me]

I think more than a few people suggested "what's annoying to you may not bother me" and vice-versa; also good advice to rent. I am near a major rec center and if we're on the lanai, it's "BOK-BOK -BOK-BOK-BOK" from Pickleball (okay, figure out which side won the point) nearly constantly. In addition, we live sort of west (on the west side of Buena Vista) and I've been surprised by the "train noise" (whistle, etc.) - everyone said, "Oh, you'll get used to it and won't even hear it after a while!" Uh, 5 years later and it's as loud as ever and still annoying. BUT - you have to mostly be outside to hear these things, and they're minor. It's terrific here, and I'll take these with what The Villages has to offer!

[Marathon Man]

Do the math......the further south you go, the thinner the amenities get. I walk to Sumter Landing not a food truck. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

Did the math. Not true.

[Stu from NYC]

It seems like the more they build out the longer it takes for the amenities and shopping to follow.

At our age did not appeal to buy new and wait years for close by shopping and restaurants.

However ever should take the time to look around and make their own choices.

[vintageogauge]

It seems like the more they build out the longer it takes for the amenities and shopping to follow.

At our age did not appeal to buy new and wait years for close by shopping and restaurants.

However ever should take the time to look around and make their own choices.

All of the amenities you pay for in the north are already in place south of 44, lots of good restaurants within 10 minutes retail shopping is not here and I'm in no hurry to see it come and end up with traffic similar to 441 but unfortunately it will be here when the population will support it.

[Bilyclub]

I personally would stay away from anything near those high voltage power transmission lines.

[valuemkt]

Turnpike - BIG problem if you do not wish to listen to constant traffic din

Quarry - problem if you do not want your house to rattle a couple of times a month

Prison - problem if you do not want the flood lights visible from your property at night or the faint sound of announcements

I must confide that I do not live south of 44 so I do not have any personal experience with what I have said in this post. I have, however, read many many posts from people who DO have first hand experience with all three issues mentioned. Search this forum and you will find plenty of info about what it’s like living near the Turnpike, the quarry and the prison.

so you admit you have no first hand information regarding your comment. Why do you feel the need to speak on something you know nothing about ? h

[valuemkt]

South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential

Another totally BS comment

[CWSBLUE]

we bought a patio villa in chitty chatty last september after much research & deliberation. We studied the villages maps & looked for a combination of privacy, beauty & less of the “packed in” feeling. We absolutely love the chitty chatty/ bradford area & the development going on south of 44. We’re connected to “the mainland “ by the chitty chatty bridge, 4 minutes to a beautiful publix, walgreens, marathon gas, and best of all paisano’s italian restaurant. A beautiful 20 minute cart ride to brownwood (paddock square) via morse & hillsboro & now the newly opened brownwood bridge. Two beautiful rec. Centers minutes away (rohan & aviary) a beautiful new shopping center coming soon (magnolia center) and much much more in the coming years. Couldn’t be happier!😎
how dare you be happy??

[coffeebean]

so you admit you have no first hand information regarding your comment. Why do you feel the need to speak on something you know nothing about ? h

Why not? Just passing on information that I had gotten from folks who actually do live close to those areas that were mentioned.

[George Page]

Did the math. Not true.

I have 5 Championship courses, 8 executive courses, 2 Regional Rec Centers, and 2 town Squares within 3 miles of my house. You?

[vintageogauge]

I have 5 Championship courses, 8 executive courses, 2 Regional Rec Centers, and 2 town Squares within 3 miles of my house. You?

You must live in a very busy and noisy neighborhood with lots of traffic. I have lots of nature, peace, quiet, and plenty of amenities and entertainment, too much to even thing about using and no traffic.

[George Page]

You must live in a very busy and noisy neighborhood with lots of traffic. I have lots of nature, peace, quiet, and plenty of amenities and entertainment, too much to even thing about using and no traffic.

Traffic?? We are close enough to take our golf cart almost everywhere. We are only minutes away and parking is easy breezy.

Noise?? We are on a tranquil water and golf front lot with an amazing view. The birds and ducks are noisy, not to mention the alligators during mating season, but we grin and bear with it.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

I love your response
honest and appropriate

[RaunchyRich]

That should be the Number 2 Reason

[RaunchyRich]

And cell Towers , which are worse... DOUBLE TROUBLE. you are spot on

[Aces4]

Pickle ball sounds like "bok, bok, bok." I was glad I heard it before I bought a house near a rec center. I knew that sound at 7:30 am would not be welcome.


No, I think pickleball sounds more like: pock, pock, pock, pock, pock.... :duck:

[Aces4]

I love your response
honest and appropriate

No one knows to what you are alluding. When remarking on a certain post, hit the “quote post” box in that post. That will put it in your response post as a reference point.

[vintageogauge]

Traffic?? We are close enough to take our golf cart almost everywhere. We are only minutes away and parking is easy breezy.

Noise?? We are on a tranquil water and golf front lot with an amazing view. The birds and ducks are noisy, not to mention the alligators during mating season, but we grin and bear with it.

I lived on a championship course for years and know how tranquil they really are NOT.

[George Page]

I lived on a championship course for years and know how tranquil they really are NOT.

Close to a tee or cart path can be bothersome. I have a body of water between me and the fairway more than 100 yards away. Can’t hear a thing.
As I said in my original post:
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION

[graciegirl]

There are those people who will direct you AWAY from new builds because it may be they are MLS realtors who CANNOT sell you new builds.

I agree with the fact that most areas are very desirable. No one needs to "sell" any part of The Villages. People are lined up to buy here, for very good reasons.

Use your common sense. You can never have enough storage space in your home and almost everyone wants a golf cart garage. Buy what fits your pocketbook. I don't know a single person that judges you on where you live here. It is all good.

[mgkw1]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!
Quarry blast only once a month and NOT felt every time. Prison is not a problem. If they do manage to escape they are not heading inland when 75 is so much closer. Do the life style visit, tour the villages you are thinking of by yourself. Talk to people at the pools, mailboxes and in the rec centers. Listen for road noise, but mostly have fun with the process. Don't forget pre owned homes.

[cswett5234]

Good points! It really does come down to personal choice. I know my parents live there and their house backs to a street, so they are looking out their lanai at a street, they LOVE it, me I need privacy that comes with a courtyard villa, but that's just me! My wife and I live in Maine and we are a few yrs from retiring, every Sunday morning we sit in bed with our coffee and take a "golf cart ride" and look at open houses. This familiarizes us with the app (which has improved greatly I must add), so we know what we like/dislike in our selection of houses, areas and proximity to golf courses and rec centers and town centers.

My suggestion, use the app to review homes on the market, use the "switches" in the app to narrow your choices...someday I'll see in the Villages! (...still America's Favorite Hometown!).

Clinton - Freeport, Maine

[yankygrl]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!
I wouldn’t live south of 44 if you gave me a home, any home. Less amenities, just getting around to putting in 2nd championship golf course, minimal shopping, gas station or bank.

[Retiring]

Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!

When I was shopping lots I gave my agent a short list of don’ts.

Keep me away from Turnpike (noise)
Keep me away from high voltage power lines
Keep me away from ponds (snakes)
Keep me away from forest or preserves (more snakes)
Keep me away from pickleball (noise)
Keep me away from dump (odor)
Keep me away from being at the bottom of a hill (drainage)
Keep me away from nearby sinkhole (insurance)
Keep me away from neighbor’s pool pump being right behind my bedroom wall (noise)

There may have been one or two more, I don’t recall.

He found a building lot for me in village of St. Catherine. I’m happy with the lot selection.

[Marathon Man]

Why not? Just passing on information that I had gotten from folks who actually do live close to those areas that were mentioned.

No. It is mis-information gotten from folks who want to pretend that there is something wrong with the new area. Because if there is not something wrong with, then it is better.

Guess what, it is better. That's why we are here.

[Marathon Man]

I have 5 Championship courses, 8 executive courses, 2 Regional Rec Centers, and 2 town Squares within 3 miles of my house. You?

I have all the things that I want near me. And lots of other things just a little farther away.

And, I get to live in the fresh, new area. Way, way better.

[coffeebean]

No, I think pickleball sounds more like: pock, pock, pock, pock, pock.... :duck:

I still vote for ping, ping, ping.

[thelegges]

We back up to a road with pond across the street. Since we are not home for most of the day, we may miss most traffic. But then again, that split window, or any vintage car would never be seen if elsewhere. The golf cart conversation, on what were they thinking when they bought that color. After 4pm sitting in the birdcage is quite, no neighbors behind, and watch the birds fly. Later the frogs, and normal pond noises. But don’t have to worry about anything crawling in our yard.

Some not a fan, but even our parents love the ever changing view

[vintageogauge]

I wouldn’t live south of 44 if you gave me a home, any home. Less amenities, just getting around to putting in 2nd championship golf course, minimal shopping, gas station or bank.

I think you are ill informed but we're all glad you choose not to accept a free home south of 44.

[coffeebean]

No. It is mis-information gotten from folks who want to pretend that there is something wrong with the new area. Because if there is not something wrong with, then it is better.

Guess what, it is better. That's why we are here.

You mean those people were lying? Color me surprised.

[CWSBLUE]

I don't live in TV but I read this forum almost daily. Why? To learn. There are some genuinely great people on here that look to help people. People like my wife and myself. We have visited TV for a number of years and have watched the amazing growth. We are about 2 years out and honestly can't wait to retire and buy our dream home. There are so many wonderful attributes to buying in Fla., the weather, the beauty of it all - but especially TV lifestyle. Several close friends of ours live in TV and just as they described, as soon as you get off of the tpke., all the stress leaves. We are NYer's / Long Island and can't wait to leave all the grind, the taxes and the traffic behind us and start living. And yeah - It's the golf carts!
But the tone of this thread has me SMH. What started out as someone looking for help turned into??? Remember how happy and excited you all were when you first made the move? Enjoy what you have and be happy for your friends and neighbors. We are truly looking forward to our years ahead - No matter if it's 466 - 466A or south of 44. You are all truly blessed. HR Dave from Chitty Chatty, you've got it right.
Good luck, God bless and stay healthy and happy.

[Ccbarb]

There is a St Catherine’s closed Facebook page if you’re interested in joining. Lots of good info and a way to meet your new neighbors!

[PaulinTV]

Also consider the direction of your new home. South facing lanai will get a lot of sun most of day, other directions partial depending on season.

Spend time in different areas you like at different times of the day and days of the week to get a feel for the noise(s) in that area. Even that's not fool proof.

When you narrow it down meet some of the people in the neighborhood and get their likes/dislikes.

If you decide to build find someone that has built a couple houses in TV for recommendations and things they have on their do's/don'ts list and whys. Its really not as hard to find these folks as you might think.

[thelegges]

You mean those people were lying? Color me surprised.

Sadly there are realtors that give doom reviews on new areas. Why because they can’t sell new homes. Have had multiple mls agents at open houses tell us about the horror of the blasts cracking windows, and walls. The noise from the prison is so deafening that you can’t sit outside. Plus you need black out curtains from the bright lights. So yes misinformation is coming from those who don’t live in the new areas.

The only residents I trust are those who live there. Here say, doesn’t work for me.
If I don’t know the person who is posting, I don’t spread maybe untruthful posts

[George Page]

I have all the things that I want near me. And lots of other things just a little farther away.

And, I get to live in the fresh, new area. Way, way better.

In the eyes of any future buyers the ‘fresh new area’ you live in is now a neighborhood full of pre-owned homes with few amenities

[VApeople]

Be sure to consider how difficult it would be to drive to the places you want to go.

For example, the neighborhood along Ternberry Forest Drive near the Palmer Golf Course has some beautiful and very expensive homes, but to drive anywhere south you have to turn left onto Buena Vista without the help of a traffic light or a roundabout, and that could be very difficult if the traffic is heavy.

In the newer areas, the neighborhood of De Luna is a long way from CR468 (Warm Springs Avenue) and I think it would be a pain to make that drive all of the time.

I think Chitty Chatty is the worst because it is very difficult to turn south on CR468, and it will continue to get even worse as more houses are built in Southern Oaks.