COVID Vaccination Priorities at Safe Restart Site

[john352]

I recently read several posted comments about suspected anomalies in the scheduling priorities for the Safe Restart Site COVID vaccination site on CR-466 for 65 and older people; to some, they appear to have a scheduling priority that is different from giving the first-registered priority.

For the last 300 days, I have been analyzing the published COVID data from the state of Florida; I hope that Safe Restart is given a higher priority to the older people in the group of 65 and older.

The following information is based on the data for the state of Florida over the 61-day period of Oct 28 to Dec 27 Over that period, there were 4,661 new COVID deaths and 473,861 new cases reported for all age groups; the ratio of deaths to cases (D/C) is 0.98%. However, for the 65 and older group the D/C ratio is 5.4%; for the group under 65, the ratio is 0.18%. This implies that, if you are in the 65+ group and test positive, you are 29 times more likely to die than if you were in the group under 65. These numbers should make obvious why DeSantis gave priority to the 65+ group.

Now let us look at the age subgroups in the 65-and-over group. The D/C ratio for the 65-74 years group is 2.3%; 75-84 years, 6.8%; 85+ years, 15.8%. The data implies that, if you are in the group of 85+ that tests positive for COVID, there is a 15.8% chance that you will die; whereas, if you in the group of 65-74 years old there is only a 2.33% chance that you will die. In other words, if you in the 85+ group you are 6.8 times more likely to die if you have COVID than the 65-74 group.

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.

[retiredguy123]

I recently read several posted comments about suspected anomalies in the scheduling priorities for the Safe Restart Site COVID vaccination site on CR-466 for 65 and older people; to some, they appear to have a scheduling priority that is different from giving the first-registered priority.

For the last 300 days, I have been analyzing the published COVID data from the state of Florida; I hope that Safe Restart is given a higher priority to the older people in the group of 65 and older.

The following information is based on the data for the state of Florida over the 61-day period of Oct 28 to Dec 27 Over that period, there were 4,661 new COVID deaths and 473,861 new cases reported for all age groups; the ratio of deaths to cases (D/C) is 0.98%. However, for the 65 and older group the D/C ratio is 5.4%; for the group under 65, the ratio is 0.18%. This implies that, if you are in the 65+ group and test positive, you are 29 times more likely to die than if you were in the group under 65. These numbers should make obvious why DeSantis gave priority to the 65+ group.

Now let us look at the age subgroups in the 65-and-over group. The D/C ratio for the 65-74 years group is 2.3%; 75-84 years, 6.8%; 85+ years, 15.8%. The data implies that, if you are in the group of 85+ that tests positive for COVID, there is a 15.8% chance that you will die; whereas, if you in the group of 65-74 years old there is only a 2.33% chance that you will die. In other words, if you in the 85+ group you are 6.8 times more likely to die if you have COVID than the 65-74 group.

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.
The vaccine priority process has already been established by the Governor for Florida. The website you referred to is managed by Sumter County. The county has no right to deviate from the priority set by the Governor or to establish a different priority process. They should follow the Governor's instructions. But, it appears that the county computer system has a glitch that allowed people who registered on Tuesday to get appointments before those who registered on Monday. Hopefully, this was just a computer error that they will correct. To me, the only justifiable way to schedule the appointments is on a first registered first served basis, unless the people do not qualify under the Governor's order.

[Dan9871]

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.

I know people under 65 who tried to sign up at Safe Restart and were rejected with a message saying they couldn't sign up for an appointment.

[retiredguy123]

I know people under 65 who tried to sign up at Safe Restart and were rejected with a message saying they couldn't sign up for an appointment.
That is the way it should be. The Florida priority for the first group is:

- healthcare personnel with direct patient contact
- residents and staff in longterm healthcare facilities
- adults aged 65 years of age and older

I don't think anyone other than the Governor has the right set a different priority. As far as I know, there is no special provision for people with a pre-existing medical condition.

[Bill14564]

That is the way it should be. The Florida priority for the first group is:

- healthcare personnel with direct patient contact
- residents and staff in longterm healthcare facilities
- adults aged 65 years of age and older

I don't think anyone other than the Governor has the right set a different priority. As far as I know, there is no special provision for people with a pre-existing medical condition.

Right at the top of the Florida Covid-19 Response page:
- Long-term care facility residents and staff
- Persons 65 years of age and older
- Health care personnel with direct patient contact
- Persons deemed to be extremely vulnerable to COVID-19 by hospital providers

[retiredguy123]

Right at the top of the Florida Covid-19 Response page:
- Long-term care facility residents and staff
- Persons 65 years of age and older
- Health care personnel with direct patient contact
- Persons deemed to be extremely vulnerable to COVID-19 by hospital providers
But, wouldn't that mean that you would need to be in a hospital and being evaluated by a hospital provider? I don't see how a websibe could determine if someone meets the criteria. The Publix Covid website only lists the first three criteria.

[Dan9871]

But, wouldn't that mean that you would need to be in a hospital and being evaluated by a hospital provider? I don't see how a websibe could determine if someone meets the criteria. The Publix Covid website only lists the first three criteria.

Right, both the CDC and Florida limit the use of medical conditions to prioritize COVID vaccinations.

From the State of Florida Covid site:

COVID-19 Vaccines in Florida | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/covid-19-vaccines-in-florida/)

"Eligible Persons as of 12/23/20
Health care personnel with direct patient contact
Long-term care facility residents and staff
Persons 65 years of age and older
Persons deemed extremely vulnerable to COVID-19 by hospital providers"

This Florida executive order is clear about this:

https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/orders/2020/EO_20-315.pdf

It says:

"Hospital providers, however, also may vaccinate persons who they deem to be extremely vulnerable to COVID-19."

Florida's recommendations differ from the CDC's recommendations in that all the CDC recommendations lump all people over 65 together regardless of medical condition.

When Vaccine is Limited, Who Should Get Vaccinated First? | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations.html)

So Florida is a little more flexible in considering medical conditions for those over 65 than the CDC is.

[coffeebean]

I know people under 65 who tried to sign up at Safe Restart and were rejected with a message saying they couldn't sign up for an appointment.

My husband who is not yet 65 was with me in the car when I was vaccinated. He was not allowed to be vaccinated because he did not meet the age criteria.

[Red Rose]

I registered last Tuesday and my husband has COPD. But, they don't ask you any questions about your health like the sites in Orlando. Still waiting, unfortunately.

[sallyg]

It would appear registration is allowed only for the age bracket 65 and older. Since vaccination has been suspended at Sumter except for those with scheduled appts, it's all moot. Hope more doses arrive soon.

[FromNY]

As far as I have read the governor ignored CDC recommendations for who gets it first? Since he changes things around often not sure what is going on. No does not matter since there is none to be had. Sad sad state of affairs.

[billethkid]

Perhaps managing by birth date would seem to be the only common basis....all other pre existing conditions would be nigh onto impossible to categorize/apply.

[yankygrl]

I recently read several posted comments about suspected anomalies in the scheduling priorities for the Safe Restart Site COVID vaccination site on CR-466 for 65 and older people; to some, they appear to have a scheduling priority that is different from giving the first-registered priority.

For the last 300 days, I have been analyzing the published COVID data from the state of Florida; I hope that Safe Restart is given a higher priority to the older people in the group of 65 and older.

The following information is based on the data for the state of Florida over the 61-day period of Oct 28 to Dec 27 Over that period, there were 4,661 new COVID deaths and 473,861 new cases reported for all age groups; the ratio of deaths to cases (D/C) is 0.98%. However, for the 65 and older group the D/C ratio is 5.4%; for the group under 65, the ratio is 0.18%. This implies that, if you are in the 65+ group and test positive, you are 29 times more likely to die than if you were in the group under 65. These numbers should make obvious why DeSantis gave priority to the 65+ group.

Now let us look at the age subgroups in the 65-and-over group. The D/C ratio for the 65-74 years group is 2.3%; 75-84 years, 6.8%; 85+ years, 15.8%. The data implies that, if you are in the group of 85+ that tests positive for COVID, there is a 15.8% chance that you will die; whereas, if you in the group of 65-74 years old there is only a 2.33% chance that you will die. In other words, if you in the 85+ group you are 6.8 times more likely to die if you have COVID than the 65-74 group.

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.
Not sure how they exactly are prioritizing but I think it is NOT by age but by when you registered. I am over 65 but not yet near 70 and I received my immunization Thursday after registering on Monday.

[yankygrl]

Perhaps managing by birth date would seem to be the only common basis....all other pre existing conditions would be nigh onto impossible to categorize/apply.
I don’t remember if they asked if you have underlying conditions on initial registration, only allergies

[yankygrl]

My husband who is not yet 65 was with me in the car when I was vaccinated. He was not allowed to be vaccinated because he did not meet the age criteria.
But did he register or did you just try to game the system?

[SacDQ]

HERE IS WHERE SOME OF THE VACCINE THE USA PUSHED TO APPROVE IS GOING.

Bloomberg report:

A Chinese drugmaker has secured 100 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine co-developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE, as the country seeks overseas shots in addition to home-made ones to ensure immunization for the world’s most populous nation.

Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical Group Co., which in March made an agreement with BioNTech to develop and market the mRNA shot in China, will make an advance payment of 250 million euros ($300 million) for an initial 50 million doses. The German vaccine maker will supply no fewer than 100 million doses for China by the end of 2021, Fosun said in a statement filed with the Hong Kong Stock Exchange Wednesday.

[Byte1]

Since there are NO doses left, arguing over who should get it first is a moot point. I heard one Congressman in D.C. demand that blacks should get the vaccination first because they are more susceptible to infection than others. Regardless of who is more vulnerable to exposure and infection, those that are in the age group of over 65 are more likely to perish if infected. Other factors are really secondary to that fact. There is absolutely no way they would be able to dispense the vaccine if they had to figure out which ailment is most vulnerable and put that at the top of the list. There would always be someone that has a worse condition.

[Florida20]

I agree, wish you could list health risks. My husband currently is dealing with cancer and blood clots both lungs but he gets no priority.

[Villages Kahuna]

Right at the top of the Florida Covid-19 Response page:
- Long-term care facility residents and staff
- Persons 65 years of age and older
- Health care personnel with direct patient contact
- Persons deemed to be extremely vulnerable to COVID-19 by hospital providers Forget all the well-thought out sequencing recommended by the CDC. Our Governor decided to simplify it—65 or older an you’re good to go. Take it or leave it. Next chance I get, I’m leaving it.

[xcaligirl]

That is the way it should be. The Florida priority for the first group is:

- healthcare personnel with direct patient contact
- residents and staff in longterm healthcare facilities
- adults aged 65 years of age and older

I don't think anyone other than the Governor has the right set a different priority. As far as I know, there is no special provision for people with a pre-existing medical condition.
I saw the same, no priority for people with existing conditions. (as said in the past to protect them). Also saw that it's for Florida residents, permanent or temporary and Florida VISITORS... Great idea, come to Florida, get a vaccination. I really like DeSantis however....

[Byte1]

Forget all the well-thought out sequencing recommended by the CDC. Our Governor decided to simplify it—65 or older an you’re good to go. Take it or leave it. Next chance I get, I’m leaving it.

CDC said a lot of crap, and have totally flipped on much of it. No one is forcing anyone to get the vaccination, but it is nice that it is free. Some feel that since they do not believe they have conditions that would make the virus dangerous/fatal, they would rather catch it and be done with it, rather than get the vaccination. But, like the Flu vaccination doctors are recommending that seniors get it.

[Byte1]

I saw the same, no priority for people with existing conditions. (as said in the past to protect them). Also saw that it's for Florida residents, permanent or temporary and Florida VISITORS... Great idea, come to Florida, get a vaccination. I really like DeSantis however....

Explain how they would figure out who had what conditions and how it would rank on the list? No one would be getting the vaccination because they would not be able to even get started on a list. They did the right thing by going according to the death ratio to age. Once they get most of the seniors taken care of, then they can start having the doctors distribute the vaccine according to their judgement. Everyone is eligible for the flu shot and so will they be eligible for the Covid shot. Folks just have to be patient. I know at least 10 people that have survived the virus and only two that supposedly tested positive for the virus when they went into the hospital for operations and didn't survive. Whether it was the virus or the operation or both, only the Good Lord knows for sure. I have no doubt that if I catch the virus, I will survive. But, I will get the shot when offered so that I can protect my spouse. I have no fear of the virus, other than what it might do to those that I care about that are weaker or at risk.

[coffeebean]

It would appear registration is allowed only for the age bracket 65 and older. Since vaccination has been suspended at Sumter except for those with scheduled appts, it's all moot. Hope more doses arrive soon.

Even those with scheduled appointments are not guaranteed to get the vaccine. The appointments for the first shot are all on hold. The letter I read from GMR says that those who have appointments for their second shot will be notified if they need to have their appointments changed. For now, those appointments for the second shots are being kept. This does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling that I will receive my second shot when it is due.

[coffeebean]

Perhaps managing by birth date would seem to be the only common basis....all other pre existing conditions would be nigh onto impossible to categorize/apply.

I thought about that too. Seems daunting to try to categorize who is more needy depending on health issues. Age is something that can be easily proven with ID. Health issues? How do you prove that?

[coffeebean]

Not sure how they exactly are prioritizing but I think it is NOT by age but by when you registered. I am over 65 but not yet near 70 and I received my immunization Thursday after registering on Monday.

Yes, it is by age. OVER 65.

[coffeebean]

I don’t remember if they asked if you have underlying conditions on initial registration, only allergies

No, GMR did not ask about any health issues.

[coffeebean]

But did he register or did you just try to game the system?

Yes, he tried to register on line. His request was immediately not accepted. It was at the location that we explained his health issues and was still told "no". We tried but were shot down.

[DAVES]

I recently read several posted comments about suspected anomalies in the scheduling priorities for the Safe Restart Site COVID vaccination site on CR-466 for 65 and older people; to some, they appear to have a scheduling priority that is different from giving the first-registered priority.

For the last 300 days, I have been analyzing the published COVID data from the state of Florida; I hope that Safe Restart is given a higher priority to the older people in the group of 65 and older.

The following information is based on the data for the state of Florida over the 61-day period of Oct 28 to Dec 27 Over that period, there were 4,661 new COVID deaths and 473,861 new cases reported for all age groups; the ratio of deaths to cases (D/C) is 0.98%. However, for the 65 and older group the D/C ratio is 5.4%; for the group under 65, the ratio is 0.18%. This implies that, if you are in the 65+ group and test positive, you are 29 times more likely to die than if you were in the group under 65. These numbers should make obvious why DeSantis gave priority to the 65+ group.

Now let us look at the age subgroups in the 65-and-over group. The D/C ratio for the 65-74 years group is 2.3%; 75-84 years, 6.8%; 85+ years, 15.8%. The data implies that, if you are in the group of 85+ that tests positive for COVID, there is a 15.8% chance that you will die; whereas, if you in the group of 65-74 years old there is only a 2.33% chance that you will die. In other words, if you in the 85+ group you are 6.8 times more likely to die if you have COVID than the 65-74 group.

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.

I am thankful that I am not making the decisions. No matter who or what makes the decision people will have valid objections.

Average age in the villages is 70. Coincidence, as of Dec, I am exactly average.
I have a LEGITIMATE reason why I should be a priority. I registered, I have only my code number. No one asked about pre-existing conditions or for proof that you have them.
They did ask for a medicare card so you have proved you are 65 or more. Did they check your medical condition. I doubt it. I don't even think they can legally without you giving your permission in writing. We did get a form e-mail that they have run out of vaccines but we will keep our place in line. I did contact my doctor's office and was told they have not gotten any vaccines and they guess they will have them in March or so.

Others have gotten shots we are on line waiting for an e-mail to set up an appointment .
Priority? It is a two shot vaccine. People who got the first shot are supposed to get a second in I think it is three weeks. Will they decide to give people who got the first shot,
WON THE RACE, get priority for the second shot. Nothing is or ever will be perfect-fair..

[coffeebean]

I saw the same, no priority for people with existing conditions. (as said in the past to protect them). Also saw that it's for Florida residents, permanent or temporary and Florida VISITORS... Great idea, come to Florida, get a vaccination. I really like DeSantis however....

Seriously? Florida will vaccinate people from other states? Is that because this is a federal program?

[DAVES]

CDC said a lot of crap, and have totally flipped on much of it. No one is forcing anyone to get the vaccination, but it is nice that it is free. Some feel that since they do not believe they have conditions that would make the virus dangerous/fatal, they would rather catch it and be done with it, rather than get the vaccination. But, like the Flu vaccination doctors are recommending that seniors get it.


Re: rather get the virus and be done with it.
We have so much conflicting information. For one thing lasting immunity is it the same for the vaccine or getting the virus and surviving it.

Old school. Am I the only one who remembers the moms would have a meeting. Johnny got the measles or the mumps. There was no vaccine you would go over to play with Johnny and get it over and done with. If, it wasn't you it was your brother or your sister. Small pox vaccine? They didn't even know about germs. They knew if they stuck
a needle in the sore and then stuck others with it they would get small pox and be done with it Some, not many died from this as they knew to only give you a little.

We seek, we demand perfect and quick. Reality does not work that way.

[DAVES]

I agree, wish you could list health risks. My husband currently is dealing with cancer and blood clots both lungs but he gets no priority.


I'm not a doctor. Perhaps, obvious. You should contact your doctor to discuss if in a weakened condition he would be wise to take a covid vaccine. I too have a pre-existing condition. Fortunately not as severe as yours. Stated elsewhere I have the code, no appointment and received the form e-mail that they are out of vaccines. I contacted my doctor's office and was told they do not expect to get any vaccines till about March.
Cancer. I would assume he is being treated by an Oncologist. I would expect a hospital would have an EMERGENCY supply and/or will get it first.

[NoMoSno]

Seriously? Florida will vaccinate people from other states? Is that because this is a federal program?
Canadian snowbirds chartering private jets to fly south for faster COVID-19 vaccine access | CTV News (https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-snowbirds-chartering-private-jets-to-fly-south-for-faster-covid-19-vaccine-access-1.5257752)

[bpascani]

I agree. The governor's plan was announced quite a while before the product was available, so we all had ample opportunity to get ourselves on a waitlist. (I am not one that did, because I couldn't figure out until recently how to sign up, because NO ONE was answering the phones, NOR did they ever return my phone calls. With the millions of voice mails I am sure they received, one would think they would have recorded instructions on how to 'get in line'. I am happy that we finally figured it out, and are among the 7500 on the list. (and, yes we are over 65 with pre existing conditions). I accept where ever my place is in line, based on when I registered, as long as everyone is 65 or older, and no one is allowed to break line because they decided to show up on the wrong day or time (i.e. in advance of their appointment day/time)

[coffeebean]

Canadian snowbirds chartering private jets to fly south for faster COVID-19 vaccine access | CTV News (https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-snowbirds-chartering-private-jets-to-fly-south-for-faster-covid-19-vaccine-access-1.5257752)

They may be flying south but have any Canadians have actually been vaccinated here in Florida? How can they be eligible?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

They may be flying south but have any Canadians have actually been vaccinated here in Florida? How can they be eligible?

Because that's how Florida chose to distribute the vaccine. They made that decision, very explicitly. Proof of ID (not proof of residence) is the only requirement.

[Eg_cruz]

I recently read several posted comments about suspected anomalies in the scheduling priorities for the Safe Restart Site COVID vaccination site on CR-466 for 65 and older people; to some, they appear to have a scheduling priority that is different from giving the first-registered priority.

For the last 300 days, I have been analyzing the published COVID data from the state of Florida; I hope that Safe Restart is given a higher priority to the older people in the group of 65 and older.

The following information is based on the data for the state of Florida over the 61-day period of Oct 28 to Dec 27 Over that period, there were 4,661 new COVID deaths and 473,861 new cases reported for all age groups; the ratio of deaths to cases (D/C) is 0.98%. However, for the 65 and older group the D/C ratio is 5.4%; for the group under 65, the ratio is 0.18%. This implies that, if you are in the 65+ group and test positive, you are 29 times more likely to die than if you were in the group under 65. These numbers should make obvious why DeSantis gave priority to the 65+ group.

Now let us look at the age subgroups in the 65-and-over group. The D/C ratio for the 65-74 years group is 2.3%; 75-84 years, 6.8%; 85+ years, 15.8%. The data implies that, if you are in the group of 85+ that tests positive for COVID, there is a 15.8% chance that you will die; whereas, if you in the group of 65-74 years old there is only a 2.33% chance that you will die. In other words, if you in the 85+ group you are 6.8 times more likely to die if you have COVID than the 65-74 group.

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.
Can someone please answer....why are you running to get this synthetic shot(I don’t call it a vaccine because it isn’t one) Has anyone read just what’s in the shot because this is not like the flu shot. Have you talked to a pharmacist about the breakdown of this shot.
Here is an interesting fact:
5% of the population is talking to a pharmacist about the Covid-19 so called vaccine
21% are talking to there doctor
51% are getting the information from the TV......oh boy
23% are getting the information from social media

That is very scary to me that only 26% of the population is talking to the professional
Before you jump on the shot wagon, ask questions to your pharmacist after all they are really the only ones that understand the components in the shot.

[Eg_cruz]

I agree, wish you could list health risks. My husband currently is dealing with cancer and blood clots both lungs but he gets no priority.
Talk to your pharmacist first before you have anyone with health issues get the shot. This is not a true vaccine so be very careful getting the shot with love ones that have health issues.
I pray he wins his battle with cancer🙏🏻💙🙏🏻💙

[coffeebean]

Because that's how Florida chose to distribute the vaccine. They made that decision, very explicitly. Proof of ID (not proof of residence) is the only requirement.

I'm stumped. How could our governor make such a bad decision to do this?

[coffeebean]

Talk to your pharmacist first before you have anyone with health issues get the shot. This is not a true vaccine so be very careful getting the shot with love ones that have health issues.
I pray he wins his battle with cancer🙏🏻💙🙏🏻💙

The vaccine neutralizes the virus and makes it unable to replicate in the human body. That's all I need to know but thank you for your advice.

[Girlcopper]

Right at the top of the Florida Covid-19 Response page:
- Long-term care facility residents and staff
- Persons 65 years of age and older
- Health care personnel with direct patient contact
- Persons deemed to be extremely vulnerable to COVID-19 by hospital providers
And you have to have documentation from a hospital, not a dr for the covid provision. Hard to get.

[Villages Kahuna]

From all that I’ve read, the priority is pretty simple... reservations accepted only for people 65-years or older. After that first-come-first-served.

The Governor ignored all the CDC recommendations and over-simplified the rule to “65 and older”. Forget about all that 1a, 1b, 1c stuff. I wonder whether as much thought went into the governor’s rule as the CDC put into their recommended sequencing?

[ts12755]

The older you get the higher your chance of dying. When it's your time, it's your time. Don't waste precious vaccines on folks with months to live with or without Covid. Give priority to folks 50 to 75.

[ts12755]

Why should someone that smoked for 45 years and now has COPD because of smoking have priority?

[DAVES]

I recently read several posted comments about suspected anomalies in the scheduling priorities for the Safe Restart Site COVID vaccination site on CR-466 for 65 and older people; to some, they appear to have a scheduling priority that is different from giving the first-registered priority.

For the last 300 days, I have been analyzing the published COVID data from the state of Florida; I hope that Safe Restart is given a higher priority to the older people in the group of 65 and older.

The following information is based on the data for the state of Florida over the 61-day period of Oct 28 to Dec 27 Over that period, there were 4,661 new COVID deaths and 473,861 new cases reported for all age groups; the ratio of deaths to cases (D/C) is 0.98%. However, for the 65 and older group the D/C ratio is 5.4%; for the group under 65, the ratio is 0.18%. This implies that, if you are in the 65+ group and test positive, you are 29 times more likely to die than if you were in the group under 65. These numbers should make obvious why DeSantis gave priority to the 65+ group.

Now let us look at the age subgroups in the 65-and-over group. The D/C ratio for the 65-74 years group is 2.3%; 75-84 years, 6.8%; 85+ years, 15.8%. The data implies that, if you are in the group of 85+ that tests positive for COVID, there is a 15.8% chance that you will die; whereas, if you in the group of 65-74 years old there is only a 2.33% chance that you will die. In other words, if you in the 85+ group you are 6.8 times more likely to die if you have COVID than the 65-74 group.

I do not know how Safe Restart is prioritizing the appointments; however, it should be obvious that they should be giving oldest people in the 65 and over group priority. Safe Restart’s registration form did not request any preexisting medical condition, like COPD; but, we know that those people should have priority for receiving the vaccine.

I am thankful that I do not make these decisions. Someone does need to choose. No matter what choice is made there will be valid points as to why it is wrong. Recently,
they discovered people dying from the vaccine. The commonality was older and with health issues. We hope we demand perfect answers-they simply do not exist.

[Jacob85]

Yes this was so frustrating to have signed up at 3:30 Monday afternoon and see that people who signed up on Tuesday were getting shots. I learned that 140,000 people tried to sign up early so that resulted in the computer error. There has to be a better way!

[billethkid]

Yes this was so frustrating to have signed up at 3:30 Monday afternoon and see that people who signed up on Tuesday were getting shots. I learned that 140,000 people tried to sign up early so that resulted in the computer error. There has to be a better way!

There is no mystery to the requirements for mass distribution.
It is done every day for much of what we rely upon to live (as we do) day to day.

I know someone will profess why the vaccine is different...it has known characteristics to apply to the distribution requirements.

The mystery is how does such a high profile program get launched if the system and pipeline are not in place?
Or if in place why stopped after one week?

[Red Rose]

You are very lucky. I registered on Tuesday and never received an email with a code for an appointment. Then, they ran out of the vaccine. I don't think they were going by the date and time of registration to prioritize. I'll bet others who registered on Tuesday or even Wednesday received their vaccine. I would love to know if that is the case with any of you out there?

[Bill14564]

And you have to have documentation from a hospital, not a dr for the covid provision. Hard to get.

The post I was replying to stated: As far as I know, there is no special provision for people with a pre-existing medical condition. I was updating that poster's knowledge with the data from our State's website. I have no idea how easy or difficult it would be for someone to get an authorization based on a pre-existing medical condition, I was only pointing out that there is a provision for that.

I'm pretty sure you will need a doctor to sign the documentation as I have not yet seen a hospital building hold a pen. Perhaps it needs to be a doctor with a practice within a hospital that is holding a supply of the vaccine, but it will still be a doctor.

[Eabunte]

I can’t even get on the website. I get a message that the server could not be found? Any help would be appreciated.

[billethkid]

I can’t even get on the website. I get a message that the server could not be found? Any help would be appreciated.

I just tried it with no problems:

Safe Restart (https://sumterfl.saferestart.net/)

[stebooo]

Wow do you have time on your hands. What kind of engineer were you?

[Aloha1]

Talk to your pharmacist first before you have anyone with health issues get the shot. This is not a true vaccine so be very careful getting the shot with love ones that have health issues.
I pray he wins his battle with cancer🙏🏻💙🙏🏻💙

vac•cine văk-sēn′, văk′sēn″►
n. A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, "or of a portion of the pathogen's structure" that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection.
So, yes, it IS a vaccine.

[zendog3]

Actually, the priorities are all wrong. Here is what they should do and why:

The best way to not die from Covid19 is not to be immune to it, but to not get it at all. So, they should have mobile vans that drive around to bars and restaurants to vaccinate people in crowds and people not wearing masks.

Think of it - you are not going to get Covid from me as I cower in my home, go out infrequently, and always wear a mask. The person who is going to kill you is the irresponsible turkey who thinks the science of viral transmission does not apply to him. So, our number one priority for vaccination should be -- vaccinate stupid and irresponsible people first. :-)

[Suzieque]

I signed up on Monday also, received a confirmation, but no code. Still waiting.

[asianthree]

I agree, wish you could list health risks. My husband currently is dealing with cancer and blood clots both lungs but he gets no priority.

Our oncologist is holding off on the vaccine. When dose should be given, it will be done in infusion lab, so patient can be monitored for 3 hours. Not 15 minutes. In my mind oncologist is where I want advice should come from.

[Fredster]

You are very lucky. I registered on Tuesday and never received an email with a code for an appointment. Then, they ran out of the vaccine. I don't think they were going by the date and time of registration to prioritize. I'll bet others who registered on Tuesday or even Wednesday received their vaccine. I would love to know if that is the case with any of you out there?

I also registered on Tuesday and was confirmed but have only have received a text and email letting me know the program was halted until more vaccine is available.

[DonnaNi4os]

Unless you are in healthcare, the state’s rollout is for 65 and over

[Jeanette179]

Agree.
And that is why my husband and I decided to wait for our vaccine, even though we are over 65. I also realize some can't wait because of health.
The good news, my sister who lives outside D.C. was not getting her vaccine untill march is now scheduled for next week. Must have gotten a big shipment in.
Stay safe everyone.

[davem4616]

I'm stumped. How could our governor make such a bad decision to do this?

We had a second home in Ft Lauderdale for over 20 years...we often wondered if there was anyone left in Quebec during the winter months :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Our neighbors to the north funnel a lot of money into Florida's economy and they actually pay taxes, either directly because they own property here, or indirectly because they've rented a place for 3 to 5 months.

I believe the Governor made the right choice....yes, a few people will 'game' the system....

Any seasonal senior living in Florida should be able to get the vaccine if they choose to...makes no difference whether they are from Ohio, NY, Canada anywhere else

we all need to come from a place of abundance, not from a place of fear or selfishness

remember we're all on this road called life together...and in the end none of us get out alive!

[Altavia]

Can someone please answer....why are you running to get this synthetic shot(I don’t call it a vaccine because it isn’t one) Has anyone read just what’s in the shot because this is not like the flu shot. Have you talked to a pharmacist about the breakdown of this shot.
Here is an interesting fact:
5% of the population is talking to a pharmacist about the Covid-19 so called vaccine
21% are talking to there doctor
51% are getting the information from the TV......oh boy
23% are getting the information from social media

That is very scary to me that only 26% of the population is talking to the professional
Before you jump on the shot wagon, ask questions to your pharmacist after all they are really the only ones that understand the components in the shot.

How about because it works:


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

[Vernon Hud]

My wife and I are both 74 years old, registered almost 2 weeks ago, and have heard nothing.

[Byte1]

So, those complaining about or worrying about possibly not getting their second dose, are worried that they wont' have but maybe 50% effectiveness? Do you all get the Flu vaccination? If so, it averages 40-60% effectiveness.

In MY opinion, if the most vulnerable are those that are over age 65 to the point that they are more likely to DIE from the virus, then they are the ones that should get it first. NOT supposed essential workers that are healthy enough to catch it and shrug it off in a few days. I know of at least 10 family members that have been covid infected and shrugged it off with moderate to no symptoms. All were under 65 and the youngest had the least suffering from the infection.
I want to know why anyone with any kind of common sense feels that medical conditions would be a priority, other than those hospitalized. How would they deem you to be sufficiently handicapped by medical conditions to put you on the list? By the time the put you in a category and placed you on a list, you would already fit the age requirement and no one else would be vaccinated. Use some common sense, putting an age limit criteria to start with was the BEST way to start a mass vaccination process. If they don't have the vaccine, they can't very well give you a shot, can they? So, quit whining like a bunch of adolescents and wait your turn. Everyone that wants a vaccination will get one and it will also be FREE, so be patient.

[Bill14564]

So, those complaining about or worrying about possibly not getting their second dose, are worried that they wont' have but maybe 50% effectiveness? Do you all get the Flu vaccination? If so, it averages 40-60% effectiveness.

In MY opinion, if the most vulnerable are those that are over age 65 to the point that they are more likely to DIE from the virus, then they are the ones that should get it first. NOT supposed essential workers that are healthy enough to catch it and shrug it off in a few days. I know of at least 10 family members that have been covid infected and shrugged it off with moderate to no symptoms. All were under 65 and the youngest had the least suffering from the infection.
I want to know why anyone with any kind of common sense feels that medical conditions would be a priority, other than those hospitalized. How would they deem you to be sufficiently handicapped by medical conditions to put you on the list? By the time the put you in a category and placed you on a list, you would already fit the age requirement and no one else would be vaccinated. Use some common sense, putting an age limit criteria to start with was the BEST way to start a mass vaccination process. If they don't have the vaccine, they can't very well give you a shot, can they? So, quit whining like a bunch of adolescents and wait your turn. Everyone that wants a vaccination will get one and it will also be FREE, so be patient.

Would like to cover three points very quickly:
1. Covid is about 100 times more deadly than the flu for those over 65. A vaccine with about the same effectiveness as the flu vaccine is better than nothing but just barely when the disease is so much more deadly.

2. Medical conditions other than those hospitalized would be a priority because having those conditions makes someone much more likely to die from COVID, possibly even more likely to die than a healthy 75 year old.

3. The health conditions that make someone more at risk for dying from COVID do not necessarily put them into a hospital and do affect people under the age of 65.

Much of the criteria established by the CDC make sense, both the age factor and the concern over risk factors.

[EdFNJ]

So, those complaining about or worrying about possibly not getting their second dose, are worried that they wont' have but maybe 50% effectiveness? Do you all get the Flu vaccination? If so, it averages 40-60% effectiveness. Except the Flu didn't kill 400,000 people in a year except in 1918 (assuming that was just "the Flu"). So yes, 50% efficacy for the flu shot I can live with (no pun intended) but 50% efficacy with Covid vaccine is more likely to kill me than the flu. My 2nd shot has been already scheduled for Feb 3rd. Hoping they have the "stuff" to do it. I guess all those that said a few months ago when "only" 40,000 or 50,000 died that this is no worse than the flu seemed to have changed channels.