Foreigners coming to Florida for to be vaccinated

[coffeebean]

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ but there is enough of this article that can be read which says Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. The vaccine is paid for my our government yet Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. How can this be?

Florida’s Covid-19 Vaccines Draw Foreigners, Snowbirds - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/floridas-covid-19-vaccines-draw-foreigners-snowbirds-11610620200)

[PugMom]

idk, this sounds like some kind of 'bait' for haters. IF it's true, we don't know why they had the shot-maybe they have to, to board their flights home? isn't jfk requiring travelers to get a shot?

[coffeebean]

Here is another article......

Foreign nationals get coronavirus shots in Florida - South Florida Sun-Sentinel (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-covid-vaccinations-florida-foreign-20210109-gaefnsdykbgzdkgfoihqhigf6u-story.html)

Why is this allowed? I am gob smacked!

[golfing eagles]

Here is another article......

Foreign nationals get coronavirus shots in Florida - South Florida Sun-Sentinel (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-covid-vaccinations-florida-foreign-20210109-gaefnsdykbgzdkgfoihqhigf6u-story.html)

Why is this allowed? I am gob smacked!

They're just taking a covidcation :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[giorgio1948]

I would like to know why Florida is getting such high grades ON THE NEWS getting shots in arms when the entire county of Sumter County, FL which INCLUDES THE VILLAGES with NO SHOTS AVAILABLE?! WHATS GOING ON GETTING THE VACCINES IN THE VILLAGES, FL GOVERNOR DESANTIS?

[Two Bills]

Here is another article......

Foreign nationals get coronavirus shots in Florida - South Florida Sun-Sentinel (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-covid-vaccinations-florida-foreign-20210109-gaefnsdykbgzdkgfoihqhigf6u-story.html)

Why is this allowed? I am gob smacked!

Welcome to the Health Tourist Club.
UK has had this all year round for years.
People fly in to get free treatment and abuse our health system from all around the world.
Costs us billions.

[Bay Kid]

Just the beginning.

[PugMom]

wow, you guys are right, ...gobsmacked isn't the word for it
Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article248347830.html)
here's another

the link will work, just blocked by my antivirus

[biker1]

For the love of God, learn to use a search engine.

idk, this sounds like some kind of 'bait' for haters. IF it's true, we don't know why they had the shot-maybe they have to, to board their flights home? isn't jfk requiring travelers to get a shot?

[billethkid]

So the whole world should revolve around you and The Villages. A perfect example of an entitled attitude. And stop shouting.

Some of us are just expecting what was promised and promoted during the photo ops!!!

Most of whom are now, regardless of what gets said, in the show me....only then believe!

[Stu from NYC]

So the whole world should revolve around you and The Villages. A perfect example of an entitled attitude. And stop shouting.

Since we the taxpayers are paying for the vaccine shouldn't we be first in line?

[biker1]

Go and reread the post I responded to.


Since we the taxpayers are paying for the vaccine shouldn't we be first in line?

[Fredman]

The taxpayers of this country paid for the vaccine and we are entitled to get it first.

The feds are footing the bill not the counties

[JoMar]

Gets sillier every day. Getting your panties in a wad won't change anything......go enjoy life the best you can, your turn will come.

[New Englander]

since we the taxpayers are paying for the vaccine shouldn't we be first in line?

yes

[stan the man]

For the love of God, learn to use a search engine.

:bigbow::bigbow:

[John41]

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ but there is enough of this article that can be read which says Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. The vaccine is paid for my our government yet Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. How can this be?

Florida’s Covid-19 Vaccines Draw Foreigners, Snowbirds - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/floridas-covid-19-vaccines-draw-foreigners-snowbirds-11610620200)

This seems unfair as it deprives Floridians of their first or second shots.

[Stu from NYC]

Gets sillier every day. Getting your panties in a wad won't change anything......go enjoy life the best you can, your turn will come.

But sooner is better than later especially when it might save an Americans life.

[biker1]

The post I responded to said nothing about taxpayers. One more time, go and reread the post I responded to.

The taxpayers of this country paid for the vaccine and we are entitled to get it first.

[coffeebean]

The taxpayers of this country paid for the vaccine and we are entitled to get it first.

I emailed Governor DeSantis just now about NON -US citizens being vaccinated here in Florida. I also questioned what will the priority be once Florida receives a supply of vaccine. Will those who have appointments for their second shot be a priority over those who have appointments for their first shot?

I doubt I will get an answer.

[coffeebean]

The feds are footing the bill not the counties

We have paid Federal income tax so doesn't that count towards paying for this vaccine? NON-US Citizens have not paid any taxes here in the US. Why in the world should they be receiving our vaccine?

[coffeebean]

Gets sillier every day. Getting your panties in a wad won't change anything......go enjoy life the best you can, your turn will come.
I and many others here in Sumter County have appointments for our second shot. Will we receive those booster shots when the manufacturer recommends? THAT is my concern. My panties are in a wad so there is that.

[asianthree]

So this morning (too cold to play golf@7:24) went to breakfast. A older couple (maybe in late 80s) with adult kids were speaking of all the foreigners getting on busses to come and GET our vaccine at MCO yesterday.

When the older couple got up, the younger males, starting laughing, says don’t bother correcting them, not going to listen. The kids said The busses were Magical Expresses, loading going to Disney.

But don’t ever correct parents, just easier to let them think what they want. We laughed so hard, said we so understand not correcting a parent who knows better than you.

Best rumor today

[John41]

I and many others here in Sumter County have appointments for our second shot. Will we receive those booster shots when the manufacturer recommends? THAT is my concern. My panties are in a wad so there is that.

I agree you have a right to be concerned about getting your second shot. Its not a matter to take lightly as some posters here suggest. Glad we didnt get our first shot from this fly by night outfit. And thanks for emailing Gov DeSantis regarding foreigners cutting into the vaccination line.

[Mleeja]

I agree you have a right to be concerned about getting your second shot. Its not a matter to take lightly as some posters here suggest. Glad we didnt get our first shot from this fly by night outfit. And thanks for emailing Gov DeSantis regarding foreigners cutting into the vaccination line.

What does one consider “foreigners”? Someone from outside the US? Or are folks coming from Georgia to Florida to receive their shots considered foreigners? How about people from Puerto Rico that are now in Florida? Are they foreigners? Maybe those from Orange County are foreigners as well.

[Stu from NYC]

What does one consider “foreigners”? Someone from outside the US? Or are folks coming from Georgia to Florida to receive their shots considered foreigners? How about people from Puerto Rico that are now in Florida? Are they foreigners? Maybe those from Orange County are foreigners as well.

Anyone who is not a citizen or have a green card should not be getting shots ahead of the rest of us.

[JimJohnson]

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ but there is enough of this article that can be read which says Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. The vaccine is paid for my our government yet Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. How can this be?

Florida’s Covid-19 Vaccines Draw Foreigners, Snowbirds - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/floridas-covid-19-vaccines-draw-foreigners-snowbirds-11610620200)

I think it is wonderful that Florida is a place that is not selfish nor greedy. Giving is the mark of a Godly life free of prejudices. Eventually everyone on earth needs to be vaccinated to defeat this this horrible virus.

[coffeebean]

I agree you have a right to be concerned about getting your second shot. Its not a matter to take lightly as some posters here suggest. Glad we didnt get our first shot from this fly by night outfit. And thanks for emailing Gov DeSantis regarding foreigners cutting into the vaccination line.

Saferestart does not appear to be a "fly by night" outfit to me. The process was very well organized and the vaccination site was very impressive, including having three ambulances on site in the event of people having reactions to the vaccine. I do not fault Saferestart for the lack of vaccines. There is a national shortage of vaccine so we all wait now.

[coffeebean]

What does one consider “foreigners”? Someone from outside the US? Or are folks coming from Georgia to Florida to receive their shots considered foreigners? How about people from Puerto Rico that are now in Florida? Are they foreigners? Maybe those from Orange County are foreigners as well.

NON-US Citizens are coming to Florida and have been vaccinated with our vaccine. People coming from Argentina for example.......NON-US citizens.

[coffeebean]

I think it is wonderful that Florida is a place that is not selfish nor greedy. Giving is the mark of a Godly life free of prejudices. Eventually everyone on earth needs to be vaccinated to defeat this this horrible virus.

Absolutely DO NOT agree with your point of view. It is BS that NON-US citizens can receive our vaccine that our government has paid for BEFORE all Americans who want the vaccine are vaccinated.

[ithos]

I think it is wonderful that Florida is a place that is not selfish nor greedy. Giving is the mark of a Godly life free of prejudices. Eventually everyone on earth needs to be vaccinated to defeat this this horrible virus.

Yes but this would encourage more foreign travel thus more opportunities to spread the disease. More likelihood of infecting our citizens. Much better to ship it to their country.

They should have to wait just like we do and not jump ahead in line.

[jswirs]

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ but there is enough of this article that can be read which says Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. The vaccine is paid for my our government yet Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. How can this be?


Florida’s Covid-19 Vaccines Draw Foreigners, Snowbirds - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/floridas-covid-19-vaccines-draw-foreigners-snowbirds-11610620200)

Guess what folks, life is not fair, and our government is even more unfair. Everyone should be used to it by now, if not, get used to it.

[tsmall22204]

Total and complete lack of leadership in this state.

[Scott O]

Wow, it’s just unbelievable how everyone thinks this is the end all for a virus that has a .02% mortality rate and the reactions to the vaccines are greater than 2.76% and now it’s the Governor’s fault because they are waiting for more shipments...smdh

[Scott O]

Wow, it’s just unbelievable how everyone thinks this is the end all for a virus that has a .02% mortality rate and the reactions to the vaccines are greater than 2.76% and now it’s the Governor’s fault because they are waiting for more shipments...smdh
You are all welcome to my 2 doses...have at it..

[Bob in Fishers]

Illegals have been coming 9n for health care and other benefits for years

[JimJohnson]

Absolutely DO NOT agree with your point of view. It is BS that NON-US citizens can receive our vaccine that our government has paid for BEFORE all Americans who want the vaccine are vaccinated.

I get your point, but I believe in Jesus Christ, so I will follow his teachings and have faith that in doing so will protect me.

[MandoMan]

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ but there is enough of this article that can be read which says Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. The vaccine is paid for my our government yet Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. How can this be?

Florida’s Covid-19 Vaccines Draw Foreigners, Snowbirds - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/floridas-covid-19-vaccines-draw-foreigners-snowbirds-11610620200)

Don’t get too excited. These foreigners can’t get vaccinated unless they apply and get a time and show up. I’m a citizen, and I’ve applied, but I haven’t yet received a time, and it seems that there isn’t vaccine available. If they fly in from Canada to get vaccinated and can afford it, so what? Many of these people (and it’s a very tiny number, anyway) come down and stay for a month or more waiting for their vaccinations. Meanwhile, they spend a LOT of money in Florida. That money benefits YOU! We need a lot more visitors here with a lot of money to spend on housing, restaurants, shopping, and entertainment. I know people here in Florida who have registered in their home states for the vaccine, and if they get the opportunity, they will fly or drive home to get it. This cuts both ways.

[Girlcopper]

I would like to know why Florida is getting such high grades ON THE NEWS getting shots in arms when the entire county of Sumter County, FL which INCLUDES THE VILLAGES with NO SHOTS AVAILABLE?! WHATS GOING ON GETTING THE VACCINES IN THE VILLAGES, FL GOVERNOR DESANTIS?
TV isnt the only spot not getting the vaccine. The entire state is short or out of it and the lists arelong for those waiting their turn. TV isnt any better than any other place. Its not the only 55+ community!! Those giving other places high grades for getting the shot so fast just lucked out. Thats it

[Miriam2940]

There is no vaccine so NO ONE is getting vaccinated, don’t believe everything you read.

[FromNY]

Wonder if the Honduran caravan headed to the border will be vaccinated as they cross?
Maybe we will give them a mask?


And a stimulus check?

[giorgio1948]

i would like to know why florida is getting such high grades on the news getting shots in arms when the entire county of sumter county, fl which includes the villages with no shots available?! whats going on getting the vaccines in the villages, fl governor desantis?

this matter should be followed up in the national news asking the governor to explain and resolve

[biker1]

Again with the same nonsense? Responding to your own posts? Really? Vaccines are being manufactured and distributed by the Federal Government and then farmed out to communities by the state. They have run out of the vaccines and are waiting for more. There was most likely a communications misunderstanding. There is nothing to resolve. They don't have vaccines.

this matter should be followed up in the national news asking the governor to explain and resolve

[RaunchyRich]

Weeding out the weak and old ! So far they got around 400 thousand ! Looks like 500k is within reach! It starts with a cough...stuffy nose and then you feel like a fish out of water... I enjoyed the hallucinations

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Saferestart does not appear to be a "fly by night" outfit to me. The process was very well organized and the vaccination site was very impressive, including having three ambulances on site in the event of people having reactions to the vaccine. I do not fault Saferestart for the lack of vaccines. There is a national shortage of vaccine so we all wait now.

I agree. Remember when the naysayers said we were YEARS away from a vaccine? Be patient and continue to keep yourself safe. We could be in much worse shape.

[rmd2]

Don’t get too excited. These foreigners can’t get vaccinated unless they apply and get a time and show up. I’m a citizen, and I’ve applied, but I haven’t yet received a time, and it seems that there isn’t vaccine available. If they fly in from Canada to get vaccinated and can afford it, so what? Many of these people (and it’s a very tiny number, anyway) come down and stay for a month or more waiting for their vaccinations. Meanwhile, they spend a LOT of money in Florida. That money benefits YOU! We need a lot more visitors here with a lot of money to spend on housing, restaurants, shopping, and entertainment. I know people here in Florida who have registered in their home states for the vaccine, and if they get the opportunity, they will fly or drive home to get it. This cuts both ways.

This analogy doesn't cut both ways. In the first example you gave it was someone who was NOT a citizen of the US and in the last example it WAS a US citizen.

[Dahabs]

Welcome to the Health Tourist Club.
UK has had this all year round for years.
People fly in to get free treatment and abuse our health system from all around the world.
Costs us billions.

Find this very hard to believe.

[Bob.Betty]

But this is such fun stuff too read

[toeser]

I would like to know why Florida is getting such high grades ON THE NEWS getting shots in arms when the entire county of Sumter County, FL which INCLUDES THE VILLAGES with NO SHOTS AVAILABLE?! WHATS GOING ON GETTING THE VACCINES IN THE VILLAGES, FL GOVERNOR DESANTIS?

Florida is getting high marks because it has distributed and used the vaccines it got. Would you feel better about being in New York or California where they are way behind on actually getting people vaccinated? 6.8% of the people in Sumter County have been vaccinated. That is way ahead of many other parts of the country and state.

[Two Bills]

Find this very hard to believe.

Nigerian health tourist costs NHS PS500k after giving birth to quadruplets in UK | World | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/761768/Nigerian-health-tourist-500k-quadruplets-UK-NHS-BBC-Hospitals)

Health tourists: How much do they cost and who pays? - Full Fact (https://fullfact.org/health/health-tourists-how-much-do-they-cost-and-who-pays/)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=health+tourists+in+UK&t=newext&atb=v236-1&ia=web

[oneclickplus]

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ but there is enough of this article that can be read which says Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. The vaccine is paid for my our government yet Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. How can this be?

Florida’s Covid-19 Vaccines Draw Foreigners, Snowbirds - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/floridas-covid-19-vaccines-draw-foreigners-snowbirds-11610620200)

Why would there be a concern with them getting a shot? I mean, we feed them, clothe them, educate their kids, provide free housing, free phones, food stamps, AFDC, etc.

What's the big deal about a shot?

[oneclickplus]

Nothing. It is a figure of speech. For the love of God, have you never heard of "for the love of God"?

Well, have you heard of:

“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”

(hint: it's #3)

[oneclickplus]

You are all welcome to my 2 doses...have at it..

Me too. Take mine.

[oneclickplus]

And doesn't getting them vaccinated reduce the risk for all?

Keeping them OUT does so as well

[biker1]

Whatever floats your boat ...

Well, have you heard of:

“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”

(hint: it's #3)

[cafw1]

It's no misunderstanding and it's not not hatred to object to the fact that people who are not US citizens are legally getting the Covid immunization. US citizens have a right to object to our leaders allowing this. Lots of countries are restricting people from coming into their countries and bringing Covid with them but not the US---we allow it. We seem to allow anything. Why? We shouldn't be asking people to wear masks and to socially distance---we should be mandating it.

[coffeebean]

Wow, it’s just unbelievable how everyone thinks this is the end all for a virus that has a .02% mortality rate and the reactions to the vaccines are greater than 2.76% and now it’s the Governor’s fault because they are waiting for more shipments...smdh

Maybe so but it is a miserable way to die. Say good by to your loved ones on an iPad.

[airstreamingypsy]

The more people who get vaccinated, the safer we all are.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The article says that most of these people own second homes in Florida. isn't it in the best interest of the citizens to make sure that everyone that lives here whether full time or part time is vaccinated? I know that I'd like it if my neighbor that spends six months a year in close proximity to me is vaccinated. I don't care where he is from.

[stebooo]

At a cost of 25k-80k I don't think that will generate the numbers of foreigners we need to worry about. Maybe we could charge 50k per shot.

[DAVES]

idk, this sounds like some kind of 'bait' for haters. IF it's true, we don't know why they had the shot-maybe they have to, to board their flights home? isn't jfk requiring travelers to get a shot?

Sadly, hate is a primitive, MINDLESS, and yet powerful emotion. I am glad that I do not have to make the decisions. Any decision, no matter what it is will receive biased objections claimed to be based on fact.

Shots for illegals? Not at all hard to get SCREAMING. Yet, do you want a person infected with covid serving you food, harvesting your food, mixing with you at the rec center.

The solutions will not be easy or inexpensive. Consumed with HATE, we are a mindless mob.

[golfing eagles]

Sadly, hate is a primitive, MINDLESS, and yet powerful emotion. I am glad that I do not have to make the decisions. Any decision, no matter what it is will receive biased objections claimed to be based on fact.

Shots for illegals? Not at all hard to get SCREAMING. Yet, do you want a person infected with covid serving you food, harvesting your food, mixing with you at the rec center.

The solutions will not be easy or inexpensive. Consumed with HATE, we are a mindless mob.


No, I don't want them here in the first place. Why should they jump the immigration line over those that have been waiting years to come legally. And now apparently they can jump the vaccine line as well. Enough is enough, send them all back to where they came from, we cannot solve all the world's problems and support all the world's population. The US has been more than generous with it's legal immigration policies, those who cross illegally are FELONS, and should be dealt with as such

[tomhinz]

All this fake news. Why shouldn't Florida residents be FIRST?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

For all those who hated “America First” it’s not sounding so bad right now.

I'm still not liking it and disagree.

There are a LOT of Floridians here who are NOT US citizens. They come from Canada, or the UK, South America, Cuba, Italy, India, Japan, etc. etc. etc. They RESIDE here part of the year, but maintain the citizenship of whatever country they come from, and return "home" for the other part of the year.

If the vaccine becomes available when they are eligible to receive it, they need to get it then, no matter where they are when that happens. Anyone who RESIDES in Florida when they are eligible for an available COVID vaccine, whether they are citizens or not, should be allowed to get one.

[tomhinz]

Shouldn't people who have not received the first shot be before those who get second shots? Something is wrong

[coffeebean]

There is no vaccine so NO ONE is getting vaccinated, don’t believe everything you read.

That is now while there is a shortage of vaccine. NON-US citizens were being vaccinated while there was stock of vaccine available. If the policy stays the way it is now, foreigners will be coming to Florida once again when the vaccine is available.

[La lamy]

We have paid Federal income tax so doesn't that count towards paying for this vaccine? NON-US Citizens have not paid any taxes here in the US. Why in the world should they be receiving our vaccine?

I totally agree. I know people in Canada are coming over to get vaccinated. It's unconscionable as far as I'm concerned.

[coffeebean]

I’m fine with Canadians coming to Florida. They spend money. Just don’t take vaccines that belong to Americans. Canadians can get their vaccines when they go back home.

[coffeebean]

Shouldn't people who have not received the first shot be before those who get second shots? Something is wrong

Second shots MUST be given BEFORE anyone gets their first shot. Efficacy percentage depends on the second shot administered within a given time frame. Out of that time frame and the efficacy is unknown.

[Stu from NYC]

I’m fine with Canadians coming to Florida. They spend money. Just don’t take vaccines that belong to Americans. Canadians can get their vaccines when they go back home.

Apparently the Canadian govt never got around to ordering more than a handful of doses.

[mjpuleo]

This is why Florida is short on the vaccines for their own residents. We should not allow people from other countries or states to come here for their vaccines. Florida is a large state with many senior citizens and we need to develop some kind of system in order to distribute the vaccine to its residents. Perhaps we can go county by county. I live in The Villages, perhaps we can get the vaccine village by village. Of course, those with medical conditions, medical personnel, first responders and our seniors should have priority. Governor DeSantis is working very hard to make sure we get the vaccines, but he cannot control how quickly the vaccine is made.

[jimjamuser]

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ but there is enough of this article that can be read which says Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. The vaccine is paid for my our government yet Florida is vaccinating non US citizens. How can this be?

Florida’s Covid-19 Vaccines Draw Foreigners, Snowbirds - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/floridas-covid-19-vaccines-draw-foreigners-snowbirds-11610620200)
It was obvious from the very beginning that after the vaccines were produced in limited numbers that vaccine distribution was going to be fraught with corruption, confusion, chaos, and inefficiency - this only encouraged various people to attempt to "game the system". States made up different rules deviating from the CDC. Florida had no solid, unifying message about how the vaccines were to be distributed. Florida threw the responsibility to the counties, which were unprepared. Some tried and failed to come up with a useable registration system. Some tried to do a "first come, first served system", which had frustrated and eager Floridians driving for 50 to 100 miles to some other county to just wind up empty. Overall, it was a "cluster" distribution. It is kind of sad that America, a county known for and having pride in its ability to innovate, has come up so empty of ideas for vaccine distribution.

........Florida can come up with a Lottery system that DISTRIBUTES prizes and money by CHANCE - which seems to work and satisfy everyone. The vaccines are a limited FREE good that have huge DEMAND - so how can you bring equilibrium to that economic supply and demand problem? - you NEED a mathematical, fair system of chance that would come close to pleasing everyone. Math and Science run the Florida Lottery system, why not turn some math professors toward the problem of FAIRNESS of CHANCE in vaccine distribution. Florida has already decided to work on distributing the vaccine to the over 65 age group - just use math and science and not STUPIDITY like "first come, first served".

[jimjamuser]

I think it is wonderful that Florida is a place that is not selfish nor greedy. Giving is the mark of a Godly life free of prejudices. Eventually everyone on earth needs to be vaccinated to defeat this this horrible virus.
That's a lot of empathy, more than I can muster up. Also, Florida may have been motivated by greed. The more snowbirds, out of staters, and "foreigners" that come here - the more money they spend - and more state sales tax is collected. The health of Florida year-round residents be damned!

[jimjamuser]

Guess what folks, life is not fair, and our government is even more unfair. Everyone should be used to it by now, if not, get used to it.
Some subset of situations will always be "unfair". The trick is to NOT passively accept that ALL situations are "unfair".

[blueash]

No, I don't want them here in the first place. .... those who cross illegally are FELONS, and should be dealt with as such

Doctor, perhaps when you type in ALL CAPS at least you might wish to double check your information to see if you are WRONG. I wonder what news sources might have led you to believe that illegal entry was a felony.

Entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor (https://apnews.com/article/2584b7cbfc4948cd9b828df0c1161a57) not a felony. While some segments of our population see undocumented aliens as right up there with rapists, the overwhelming majority are just trying to make their lives better, like my grandfather who came here when anyone with $1 and a sponsor was allowed in. Lots of real Americans didn't want people like my grandfather here, the unwashed uneducated poor non-WASP kind of people. And that generation of immigrants made America Great.

The law is called illegal entry, and it makes unauthorized border crossings a crime. The law specifically bars entry into the U.S. at places other than through ports of entry, like an airport or bridge on the U.S.-Mexican border. A violation of the law, also known as Section 1325, is a misdemeanor with a penalty of six months in prison,

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

Thanks Jo Mar. My turn will come so I will wait.

[golfing eagles]

Doctor, perhaps when you type in ALL CAPS at least you might wish to double check your information to see if you are WRONG. I wonder what news sources might have led you to believe that illegal entry was a felony.

Entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor (https://apnews.com/article/2584b7cbfc4948cd9b828df0c1161a57) not a felony. While some segments of our population see undocumented aliens as right up there with rapists, the overwhelming majority are just trying to make their lives better, like my grandfather who came here when anyone with $1 and a sponsor was allowed in. Lots of real Americans didn't want people like my grandfather here, the unwashed uneducated poor non-WASP kind of people. And that generation of immigrants made America Great.

OK, so it's a misdemeanor with up to 6 months in jail, not a felony with 12 months in jail----BFD. It's still a crime. My grandfather came in 1908 and GM in1912, Legally, with a sponsor. They immediately enrolled in citizenship and English class. Grandmother WORKED 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for $8/month. She did not get welfare, nor food stamps, nor medical care, nor did she expect anyone to hand her these things free. There were no "caravans" headed to cross the border illegally----they would have been shot---it's called enforcing a border. No border, no country. And she wasn't a "WASP"

[golfing eagles]

Doctor, perhaps when you type in ALL CAPS at least you might wish to double check your information to see if you are WRONG. I wonder what news sources might have led you to believe that illegal entry was a felony.

Entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor (https://apnews.com/article/2584b7cbfc4948cd9b828df0c1161a57) not a felony. While some segments of our population see undocumented aliens as right up there with rapists, the overwhelming majority are just trying to make their lives better, like my grandfather who came here when anyone with $1 and a sponsor was allowed in. Lots of real Americans didn't want people like my grandfather here, the unwashed uneducated poor non-WASP kind of people. And that generation of immigrants made America Great.

Part 2-----

So it's OK to commit a crime if you are just trying to make your life better???
Stealing from a grocer because you're hungry??
Robbing a bank because you need rent money??
Rioting and looting because you perceived a "social injustice"??
Invading the Capitol because your candidate lost??

Either we are a nation guided by the rule of law or not. You cannot pick and choose which laws should be enforced based on whether or not you sympathize with their cause or plight.

PS: The term "undocumented" was invented by the left to mitigate the fact that they committed a crime and are here ILLEGALLY

[ithos]

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Guatemalan officials report that some of the migrants in this weekend’s caravan carried fake COVID-19 test results. Others actually tested positive for the potentially deadly virus.

They used violence to get past soldiers at border. This will be a test for the next President. I hope he doesn't let the citizens down or there will be hundreds of thousands to follow.

[jimjamuser]

Maybe so but it is a miserable way to die. Say good by to your loved ones on an iPad.
The "long haulers" may not die, but can have bad lives for a long, long time. And CV may cause problems that are yet unknown. Not a "walk in the park".

[jimjamuser]

Sadly, hate is a primitive, MINDLESS, and yet powerful emotion. I am glad that I do not have to make the decisions. Any decision, no matter what it is will receive biased objections claimed to be based on fact.

Shots for illegals? Not at all hard to get SCREAMING. Yet, do you want a person infected with covid serving you food, harvesting your food, mixing with you at the rec center.

The solutions will not be easy or inexpensive. Consumed with HATE, we are a mindless mob.
One original problem multiplies and now becomes another problem (vaccinations for undeserving individuals).

[Topspinmo]

Don’t get too excited. These foreigners can’t get vaccinated unless they apply and get a time and show up. I’m a citizen, and I’ve applied, but I haven’t yet received a time, and it seems that there isn’t vaccine available. If they fly in from Canada to get vaccinated and can afford it, so what? Many of these people (and it’s a very tiny number, anyway) come down and stay for a month or more waiting for their vaccinations. Meanwhile, they spend a LOT of money in Florida. That money benefits YOU! We need a lot more visitors here with a lot of money to spend on housing, restaurants, shopping, and entertainment. I know people here in Florida who have registered in their home states for the vaccine, and if they get the opportunity, they will fly or drive home to get it. This cuts both ways.


Anybody can get the vaccine. All they have to do it fill out form online. No state can ask where the came from due to HIPPI law.

[jimjamuser]

I'm still not liking it and disagree.

There are a LOT of Floridians here who are NOT US citizens. They come from Canada, or the UK, South America, Cuba, Italy, India, Japan, etc. etc. etc. They RESIDE here part of the year, but maintain the citizenship of whatever country they come from, and return "home" for the other part of the year.

If the vaccine becomes available when they are eligible to receive it, they need to get it then, no matter where they are when that happens. Anyone who RESIDES in Florida when they are eligible for an available COVID vaccine, whether they are citizens or not, should be allowed to get one.
Agreed, for LEGAL residents.

[jimjamuser]

Second shots MUST be given BEFORE anyone gets their first shot. Efficacy percentage depends on the second shot administered within a given time frame. Out of that time frame and the efficacy is unknown.
That is logical and reflects the science behind the vaccines.

[jimjamuser]

Apparently the Canadian govt never got around to ordering more than a handful of doses.
Disagree - not the way I heard about Canadian vaccine ordering.

[NoMoSno]

That is logical and reflects the science behind the vaccines.
The Biden plan is to get the first shot to everyone first.
Second shot many months later.