Havana (Kenya)

[Joanne19335]

I played the Kenya nine today. I have no words to describe the horrible conditions on that course. There is literally no grass on the fairways and greens are in terrible shape. They should not even charge us to play. I have seen public courses that get a lot more play in better condition. Don’t waste your money.

[birdiebill]

This is a common complaint here with regard to no grass on the fairways. Many either don't know or forget that the Bermuda grass that is used on most southern courses goes dormant in the winter. It does not grow even when fertilized unless the temperature is consistently warm. In the past many southern courses overseeded with rye grass in the winter months. This provided "grass" but when spring comes, the rye dies out and the Bermuda is coming out of dormancy. During this period the two grasses compete with each other, often weakening the Bermuda grass, slowing its growth, and making it more susceptible to disease. Plus it is very expensive to oversee all the fairways with rye. Thus, many, but not all have stopped the winter overseed.

[Bill1701]

I'm almost never in the fairways so it doesn't bother me.

[mulligan]

I've seen the same complaints for about 12 years . The grass goes dormant in winter, and the cost and t-time schedule disruptions are not worth the results for overseeding. The simple solutions are: 1-don't play, 2-play off campus, 3-play in Naples in the winter, or4- deal with it.

[Guitarman1951]

It is winter. Course grasses are mostly dormant and courses are experiencing much heavier play both due to covid and snowbirds. Add to that, double cart traffic, and it is no wonder courses are not in great shape. I don't think anyone should complain about course conditions right now. I'm just hoping they can recover come summertime.

[clwahlstrom]

I completely agree. Is anyone complaining about this? Or would it make any difference.

[Two Bills]

All the courses in UK are closed for Covid lockdown.
Bare fairways?
You lucky people!

[Sherrilee]

I am sitting here looking at the second hole of Kenya — villages are always working on this course— greens are green - golf carts are sitting waiting their turn- people are smiling- no matter what it’s like their having fun!!!

[dewilson58]

I am sitting here looking at the second hole of Kenya — villages are always working on this course— greens are green - golf carts are sitting waiting their turn- people are smiling- no matter what it’s like their having fun!!!
:bigbow:

[Galmarini]

Played Havana today Greens are in BAD shape

[graciegirl]

I am sitting here looking at the second hole of Kenya — villages are always working on this course— greens are green - golf carts are sitting waiting their turn- people are smiling- no matter what it’s like their having fun!!!

I like your attitude. I love it here. This is the best place in the world to live if you play golf. This is the best place in the world to live if you paint pictures. This place ROCKS.

[kkingston57]

Were you a groundskeeper? Thanks for the very understandable explanation.

[golfing eagles]

All the courses in UK are closed for Covid lockdown.
Bare fairways?
You lucky people!

They closed the golf courses in the UK for COVID?????? Sorry, but their government must be even stupider than ours.

[Funkman]

They closed the golf courses in the UK for COVID?????? Sorry, but their government must be even stupider than ours.

Unpossible!

[Two Bills]

They closed the golf courses in the UK for COVID?????? Sorry, but their government must be even stupider than ours.

The Government relaxed the restrictions, and relied on people being sensible.
Did not work, hence the big stick.
With the new varient virus prevelant here, our numbers threatened to overwhelm the hospitals, so something had to be done.
Restrictions seem to be working, as R number is falling.
Vaccinations are going well at present, and unlike the rest of Europe, we do not have a vaccine shortage at the moment, but tommorow is another day!

[RaunchyRich]

I played the Kenya nine today. I have no words to describe the horrible conditions on that course. There is literally no grass on the fairways and greens are in terrible shape. They should not even charge us to play. I have seen public courses that get a lot more play in better condition. Don’t waste your money.
Complaining about Fairways on a golf course... Life is good. I bet the Mixed Drinks had one too many ice cubes

[Joanne19335]

Played Havana today Greens are in BAD shape

Cane Garden and Lopez are in great shape. Hacienda as well. Different grass up there, or maybe in a different time zone?

[zuidemab]

The Government relaxed the restrictions, and relied on people being sensible.
Did not work, hence the big stick.
With the new varient virus prevelant here, our numbers threatened to overwhelm the hospitals, so something had to be done.
Restrictions seem to be working, as R number is falling.
Vaccinations are going well at present, and unlike the rest of Europe, we do not have a vaccine shortage at the moment, but tommorow is another day!

It is increasingly rare to see anyone speak facts. Especially when referencing any number of comments on government. Thank you.

[Edjkoz]

Played Havana today Greens are in BAD shape

Played Kilimanjaro and Kenya today. Horrible conditions on the greens. No grass, mostly mud. We did ask a groundskeeper and we’re told it was due to fungus. What, did they run out of fungicide? Winter conditions are what they are here but there’s no excuse for this.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Complaining about Fairways on a golf course... Life is good. I bet the Mixed Drinks had one too many ice cubes

Any time some pays there money for something and the quality is not what it should be they have every right to complain. If you bought a new car and it kept breaking down you'd complain about that. If you went to a concert and the musicians didn't perform well you might complain about that. If you go to a restaurant and pay a lot of money for bad food we'd all hear about that.

Why is it that when it comes to golf people believe that we have no right to complain? Why is it when someone is driving fast in a golf cart people will always mock them for being late for their tee time? Being late for your tee time can cause you to lose it.

We hear complaints about the roads, the lack of flowers, the grass not being maintained, the water in the pools not being the right temperature and a myriad of other things. Those are all OK, but when it comes to golf we are just supposed to shut up, pay our money and be happy.

Oh, and by the way, did you happen to notice that this is a forum specifically created to report golf course conditions?

[Shbullet]

Any time some pays there money for something and the quality is not what it should be they have every right to complain. If you bought a new car and it kept breaking down you'd complain about that. If you went to a concert and the musicians didn't perform well you might complain about that. If you go to a restaurant and pay a lot of money for bad food we'd all hear about that.

Why is it that when it comes to golf people believe that we have no right to complain? Why is it when someone is driving fast in a golf cart people will always mock them for being late for their tee time? Being late for your tee time can cause you to lose it.

We hear complaints about the roads, the lack of flowers, the grass not being maintained, the water in the pools not being the right temperature and a myriad of other things. Those are all OK, but when it comes to golf we are just supposed to shut up, pay our money and be happy.

Oh, and by the way, did you happen to notice that this is a forum specifically created to report golf course conditions?


You are completely correct Dr Winston in MHO. There are usually 2 regulars on this forum that really dislike posters that bring up issues in the villages. (particularly golf) One of them isn't even a golfer anymore. I think its good to hear about a golf course that is in terrible shape compared to others so golfers dont waste their money on that particular course.

[John_W]

Played Kilimanjaro and Kenya today. Horrible conditions on the greens. No grass, mostly mud. We did ask a groundskeeper and we’re told it was due to fungus. What, did they run out of fungicide? Winter conditions are what they are here but there’s no excuse for this.

I'm playing Kilimanjaro to Kenya tomorrow, but I was expecting that. I've gotten use to the thin grass on the fairways, actually made me improve my game by hitting the ball first and not the ground. The greens have been like putting on a driveway at any course lately. The way they always pick the pin placements, they must look for the most unlevel area.

[wisbad1]

This is a common complaint here with regard to no grass on the fairways. Many either don't know or forget that the Bermuda grass that is used on most southern courses goes dormant in the winter. It does not grow even when fertilized unless the temperature is consistently warm. In the past many southern courses overseeded with rye grass in the winter months. This provided "grass" but when spring comes, the rye dies out and the Bermuda is coming out of dormancy. During this period the two grasses compete with each other, often weakening the Bermuda grass, slowing its growth, and making it more susceptible to disease. Plus it is very expensive to oversee all the fairways with rye. Thus, many, but not all have stopped the winter overseed.
How can you say that? Go play Evans Praire, looks great. Just like people’s yards, it’s how they take care of them.

[Kevinwitgen@yahoo.com]

I agree totally. I normally do not complain about conditions of the courses here. But, I played there with a group of friends yesterday, and that course is in the worst condition I’ve ever seen it. And this is not the same as the rest of the championship courses Here in the villages. Greens were in absolutely terrible shape! I have guest in town and was embarrassed to have taken them there.

[ILLINOIS RAY]

Keep scalping all the fairways on Championship courses and that is what you get. Need to let there be some grass in fairways