Turn signals in roundabouts

[thevillages2013]

I know the official recommendations on driving in traffic circles instruct that turn signals should be used. In a perfect world that may work but I see so much incorrect use of them that it makes me think that they are ineffective. I see drivers with the left turn blinker on while taking an exit and the right turn on while bypassing an exit. My thought is to make sure you are in the proper lane for your exit (and I do mean all the way in that lane instead of partially in the other lane) and keep moving. There are signs before each roundabout that instruct which lane to be in for the exit you are taking if you are unfamiliar with it. Obviously right lane for first or second exit and left lane for second and third exit. Also don’t enter a roundabout with another car in the left lane beside you. Point here is concentration on proper driving in the circles and less focus on turn signals. Personally I don’t trust another driver’s turn signal while in a roundabout anyway

[Bogie Shooter]

Here we go once again!
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Stu from NYC]

Here we go once again!
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Been at least two weeks since the last thread on this.

[dhdallas]

I know the official recommendations on driving in traffic circles instruct that turn signals should be used. In a perfect world that may work but I see so much incorrect use of them that it makes me think that they are ineffective. I see drivers with the left turn blinker on while taking an exit and the right turn on while bypassing an exit. My thought is to make sure you are in the proper lane for your exit (and I do mean all the way in that lane instead of partially in the other lane) and keep moving. There are signs before each roundabout that instruct which lane to be in for the exit you are taking if you are unfamiliar with it. Obviously right lane for first or second exit and left lane for second and third exit. Also don’t enter a roundabout with another car in the left lane beside you. Point here is concentration on proper driving in the circles and less focus on turn signals. Personally I don’t trust another driver’s turn signal while in a roundabout anyway

I am old so I just leave one of my turn signals on all the time.

[coffeebean]

I know the official recommendations on driving in traffic circles instruct that turn signals should be used. In a perfect world that may work but I see so much incorrect use of them that it makes me think that they are ineffective. I see drivers with the left turn blinker on while taking an exit and the right turn on while bypassing an exit. My thought is to make sure you are in the proper lane for your exit (and I do mean all the way in that lane instead of partially in the other lane) and keep moving. There are signs before each roundabout that instruct which lane to be in for the exit you are taking if you are unfamiliar with it. Obviously right lane for first or second exit and left lane for second and third exit. Also don’t enter a roundabout with another car in the left lane beside you. Point here is concentration on proper driving in the circles and less focus on turn signals. Personally I don’t trust another driver’s turn signal while in a roundabout anyway

I NEVER EVER trust a turn signal on any car when in the RAB. Most folks don't even know their signal is still signaling from before they even got into the RAB. Their hearing can not be trusted to know the signal is making the blinking noise.

I make sure I NEVER drive next to anyone in a RAB. I always hang back to not be next to another car. You just never know what someone is going to do and I've seen some near misses in the RABs.

[coffeebean]

Here we go once again!
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

This subject is actually a breath of fresh air over the masks and vaccine threads. Bring it on. Better than dog poop!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The Morse circle at Paige Place is a tough one. If you're coming from the circle and exiting onto Paige Place, you have to merge into one lane. Paige doesn't have two lanes entering into it. Not only are there two lanes IN the circle merging into one lane to get OUT of it - but there is also a golf cart path that crosses at the very end of Paige Place coming from Morse, through a narrow walled path to your right on the other side of traffic coming from Morse.

That one spot is very scary for car drivers, golf cart drivers, and anyone IN the circle trying to figure out who is going to do what next.

The person exiting could be coming from either of two lanes. But they'll be exiting onto just one lane and so the person who came from 3/4 the way around the circle, will be already on his way to that exit at the same time someone coming out from Morse and wanting to take the first exit, is entering.

[stan the man]

Been at least two weeks since the last thread on this.

Oh stu thank you for bringing this to our attention.

[collie1228]

The Paige Place circle is the worst of many bad traffic circles in The Villages. Traveling from Morse to a left turn on 27/441, it's difficult to choose the correct lane. Either one can end up with a crash, since there are stupid drivers who insist on driving along side (or passing!) other drivers while in the circle.

I totally agree about turn signals. I use them at my exit of the circle, but if someone else uses them, I never believe them for a second. So I guess they are pretty worthless, except as a courtesy.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The Paige Place circle is the worst of many bad traffic circles in The Villages. Traveling from Morse to a left turn on 27/441, it's difficult to choose the correct lane. Either one can end up with a crash, since there are stupid drivers who insist on driving along side (or passing!) other drivers while in the circle.

I totally agree about turn signals. I use them at my exit of the circle, but if someone else uses them, I never believe them for a second. So I guess they are pretty worthless, except as a courtesy.

As I see it, ALL turns out of traffic circles are RIGHT turns, not left turns. Your intention might be to go 3/4 around the circle, thus taking a "left" from where you entered it.

But when you actually approach that exit, you are now positioned such that the exit is now to your right - not your left.

To that end, I always use my RIGHT signal when I approach whichever exit I'm taking out of the circle.

And yeah coming from Paige, which is a single-lane entrance.. onto the 2-lane circle, to go 1/4 to the first exit (which is on your right), and then get into the LEFT lane to turn onto 441... can be harrowing when there's a lot of traffic. Combine that with the golf carts that are coming from the same direction as you, since they CROSS the circle exit - there's no golf cart tunnel there. What's worse is when some golf cart drivers think it's a great idea to go counter-clockwise on that one-way golf cart path. So a car driver has to look at everything all at once, just in case he misses that one, momentary act of stupidity.

Suffice it to say, there are fender-benders at that circle on a fairly regular basis.

[Kenswing]

This subject is actually a breath of fresh air over the masks and vaccine threads. Bring it on. Better than dog poop!
That's hilarious coming from the person who has probably started more threads about masks and the vaccine than anyone else. :1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

This subject is actually a breath of fresh air over the masks and vaccine threads. Bring it on. Better than dog poop!

You jest of course?

[j_vermilya]

I would be happy if people would stop changing lanes in a round about...ever, and especially if they would stop changing lanes right before they leave the roundabout. Apparently they do this so they can enter the resident side of the gate...but they should WAIT until they leave the round about to change lanes. This happens frequently, every day. I am very cautious as I know people won't even follow this simple rule

[Byte1]

The only way to solve this conundrum of the circle is to either make it ONE lane only, or just take drivers permits away from anyone that does not know the difference between their left hand and their right hand. Better yet, just ban driving by anyone over 50.

[JGVillages]

How about another ROB issue.
Many making a legal right turn from the inside lane out of the ROB that can’t stay in their lane and encroach on me also going right in the inside lane. Happens daily.

[stanley]

That's hilarious coming from the person who has probably started more threads about masks and the vaccine than anyone else. :1rotfl:


:boom:

[Polar Bear]

How about another ROB issue.
Many making a legal right turn from the inside lane out of the ROB that can’t stay in their lane and encroach on me also going right in the inside lane. Happens daily.
At least one of you is violating the most important rules of roundabout driving or there would be no issue...yield to both lanes before entering and never drive next to another vehicle.

[Stu from NYC]

At least one of you is violating the most important rules of roundabout driving or there would be no issue...yield to both lanes before entering and never drive next to another vehicle.

very good advise

[coffeebean]

That's hilarious coming from the person who has probably started more threads about masks and the vaccine than anyone else. :1rotfl:

I see you noticed! LOL.

[coffeebean]

You jest of course?

No jesting. I really, really mean it!

[Topspinmo]

I know the official recommendations on driving in traffic circles instruct that turn signals should be used. In a perfect world that may work but I see so much incorrect use of them that it makes me think that they are ineffective. I see drivers with the left turn blinker on while taking an exit and the right turn on while bypassing an exit. My thought is to make sure you are in the proper lane for your exit (and I do mean all the way in that lane instead of partially in the other lane) and keep moving. There are signs before each roundabout that instruct which lane to be in for the exit you are taking if you are unfamiliar with it. Obviously right lane for first or second exit and left lane for second and third exit. Also don’t enter a roundabout with another car in the left lane beside you. Point here is concentration on proper driving in the circles and less focus on turn signals. Personally I don’t trust another driver’s turn signal while in a roundabout anyway

Ok if I coming around the roundabout in the inside (left lane going to 3rd exit I have my left blinker light on approaching the second exit. This lets the in bound traffic know I’m coming around had have the right of way. Once I get pass the second exit I turn my right blinker light on letting the traffic in the third exit know that I am turning.

There should be no traffic beside me if the second exit traffic yielded like law requires. Bottom line any traffic in roundabout has right way, don’t pull out until they pass and it’s clear of all traffic coming towards you. Blinker or not blinker. It’s tells the traffic entering where on coming traffic going, thus reduces traffic coming to stop when they only have to yield.

[Topspinmo]

I am old so I just leave one of my turn signals on all the time.

And I bet you stop at roundabout when no traffic coming also? :a040:

[kcrazorbackfan]

I know the official recommendations on driving in traffic circles instruct that turn signals should be used.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Stu from NYC]

And I bet you stop at roundabout when no traffic coming also? :a040:

And what about stopping at train tracks to watch for the 4 14 to Orlando?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I would be happy if people would stop changing lanes in a round about...ever, and especially if they would stop changing lanes right before they leave the roundabout. Apparently they do this so they can enter the resident side of the gate...but they should WAIT until they leave the round about to change lanes. This happens frequently, every day. I am very cautious as I know people won't even follow this simple rule

At certain roundabouts they HAVE to change lanes, in order to exit. If you are entering a 2-lane roundabout, and intend to get off at the 3rd exit (3/4 of the way around, also known as "left") - you MUST enter from the left lane. And if that exit only has ONE lane - you MUST exit to your right. There is no other way to exit a 2-lane roundabout to a one-lane exit.

[thevillages2013]

Ok if I coming around the roundabout in the inside (left lane going to 3rd exit I have my left blinker light on approaching the second exit. This lets the in bound traffic know I’m coming around had have the right of way. Once I get pass the second exit I turn my right blinker light on letting the traffic in the third exit know that I am turning.

There should be no traffic beside me if the second exit traffic yielded like law requires. Bottom line any traffic in roundabout has right way, don’t pull out until they pass and it’s clear of all traffic coming towards you. Blinker or not blinker. It’s tells the traffic entering where on coming traffic going, thus reduces traffic coming to stop when they only have to yield.
My whole point is that there is so much misuse of turn signals in roundabouts that no one trusts them

[thevillages2013]

I would be happy if people would stop changing lanes in a round about...ever, and especially if they would stop changing lanes right before they leave the roundabout. Apparently they do this so they can enter the resident side of the gate...but they should WAIT until they leave the round about to change lanes. This happens frequently, every day. I am very cautious as I know people won't even follow this simple rule
I have no problem with crossing lanes /lines in the roundabout only in the case of taking the third exit. You have to be in the left /inside lane to take the third exit. Cars in the right / outside lane can only take the first or second exit and no one should enter the roundabout next to a car so there is no reason not to be able to cross that dotted line to get to the resident gate. I agree that drivers taking the second exit should not change lanes because they don’t want to have to turn the steering wheel as much or slow down enough

[MandoMan]

The Paige Place circle is the worst of many bad traffic circles in The Villages. Traveling from Morse to a left turn on 27/441, it's difficult to choose the correct lane. Either one can end up with a crash, since there are stupid drivers who insist on driving along side (or passing!) other drivers while in the circle.

I totally agree about turn signals. I use them at my exit of the circle, but if someone else uses them, I never believe them for a second. So I guess they are pretty worthless, except as a courtesy.

Driving alongside other vehicles in a traffic circle or passing them in a traffic circle is entirely legal and appropriate so long as you stay in your marked lane. If, say, I am driving south on Morse and not turning off, I use the middle lane and stay in that lane throughout. I’m free to pass someone turning right onto the first road. I am NOT free to turn right onto the first road from the middle lane. I AM free to turn right onto the second road from the left land or to keep going around the circle. That’s the way the lanes are marked. If you are in the right lane and continuing south on Morse, the second turn, then there is no conflict. However, if you are in the right lane and continuing on to the third exit or returning north on Morse, then I have the right of way for that second turn south on Morse. If you run into me because you want to take the third turn, but you were asleep at the wheel and entered the roundabout in the wrong lane, then you will be at fault. You need to watch to make sure I’m not turning. Turn signals won’t necessarily help because we are side by side. So the signals are hard to see.

That said, I’m cautious in situations like that because some people are terrible drivers. I tend to accelerate so people will see I am taking the second right or hold back a little to make sure they aren’t going to try to go on to the third right from the right lane.

I think the traffic circles in The Villages are marvels of good design and clarity. So long as people read the signs in advance and follow the rules, they are easiest circles I’ve ever used, and they save a lot of time. If they are driving on autopilot or on drugs or two-fers, watch out!

[Tmarkwald]

At least one of you is violating the most important rules of roundabout driving or there would be no issue...yield to both lanes before entering and never drive next to another vehicle.

How about just following the traffic laws concerning roundabouts?

1. Always yield to traffic in right lane of a 2 lane roundabout - never use turn signals when entering a roundabout.
2. Once in the roundabout, put on right turn signals before exiting
3. If going 3/4 of the way around in a 2 lane roundabout, merge left then merge back right and use signals to exit.

[lindaelane]

Use signals properly, use lanes properly, do it all. And who on earth would trust a turn signal in any situation? They can mean nothing. They are for letting cars behind you know you why you are slowing. In roundabouts, they are for saying to those entering that you are continuing and so they definitely should not enter. - They should not enter in any case until you are past, but this gives them an extra reason not to do so. - Of course if your signal indicates you are exiting rather than continuing, those seeking to enter should not trust that. But it does let anyone behind you know your reason for slowing - its to exit. They may be less likely to ram you from behind if they expect slowing

So...signals always serve good safety purposes but never should be taken as "I'm definitely going to do this."

[Skunky1]

The signs are flawed and conflicting.

[mrf6969]

Right lane you must continue in that lane (NO left turn) Left lane continue in that lane or left turn your choice. It is that simple period.

[Dahabs]

I NEVER EVER trust a turn signal on any car when in the RAB. Most folks don't even know their signal is still signaling from before they even got into the RAB. Their hearing can not be trusted to know the signal is making the blinking noise.

I make sure I NEVER drive next to anyone in a RAB. I always hang back to not be next to another car. You just never know what someone is going to do and I've seen some near misses in the RABs.

This is the best advice.

[Windguy]

Personally I don’t trust another driver’s turn signal while in a roundabout anyway
Well, neither do I, but there are times when I can pull out but it might cause the other driver to slow down so I don’t because I don’t want to inconvenience them. However, if their blinker is on, then I pull out anyway because if they don’t turn and I cause them to slow down it’s their fault. I won’t do this if it endangers us.

[Polar Bear]

Well, neither do I, but there are times when I can pull out but it might cause the other driver to slow down so I don’t because I don’t want to inconvenience them. However, if their blinker is on, then I pull out anyway because if they don’t turn and I cause them to slow down it’s their fault. I won’t do this if it endangers us.
Sounds like you’re not yielding to both lanes in the roundabout. If so, any conflict is not his fault...it’s yours.

[stebooo]

Your most accurate and profound statement. I don't trust. !!!!!!😎

[collie1228]

Driving alongside other vehicles in a traffic circle or passing them in a traffic circle is entirely legal and appropriate so long as you stay in your marked lane. If, say, I am driving south on Morse and not turning off, I use the middle lane and stay in that lane throughout. I’m free to pass someone turning right onto the first road. I am NOT free to turn right onto the first road from the middle lane. I AM free to turn right onto the second road from the left land or to keep going around the circle. That’s the way the lanes are marked. If you are in the right lane and continuing south on Morse, the second turn, then there is no conflict. However, if you are in the right lane and continuing on to the third exit or returning north on Morse, then I have the right of way for that second turn south on Morse. If you run into me because you want to take the third turn, but you were asleep at the wheel and entered the roundabout in the wrong lane, then you will be at fault. You need to watch to make sure I’m not turning. Turn signals won’t necessarily help because we are side by side. So the signals are hard to see.

That said, I’m cautious in situations like that because some people are terrible drivers. I tend to accelerate so people will see I am taking the second right or hold back a little to make sure they aren’t going to try to go on to the third right from the right lane.

I think the traffic circles in The Villages are marvels of good design and clarity. So long as people read the signs in advance and follow the rules, they are easiest circles I’ve ever used, and they save a lot of time. If they are driving on autopilot or on drugs or two-fers, watch out!

It may or may not be "legal" to pass or ride alongside someone in a traffic circle; frankly I don't know. But I do know it is idiotic to do so. I someone is already in the traffic circle, and you decide to pass that person, you are putting both of you in jeopardy of a crash.

[DAVES]

I know the official recommendations on driving in traffic circles instruct that turn signals should be used. In a perfect world that may work but I see so much incorrect use of them that it makes me think that they are ineffective. I see drivers with the left turn blinker on while taking an exit and the right turn on while bypassing an exit. My thought is to make sure you are in the proper lane for your exit (and I do mean all the way in that lane instead of partially in the other lane) and keep moving. There are signs before each roundabout that instruct which lane to be in for the exit you are taking if you are unfamiliar with it. Obviously right lane for first or second exit and left lane for second and third exit. Also don’t enter a roundabout with another car in the left lane beside you. Point here is concentration on proper driving in the circles and less focus on turn signals. Personally I don’t trust another driver’s turn signal while in a roundabout anyway

The posts in reply will prove my points. My dad taught me to drive, His advice was expect the people around you to do the stupidest possible thing because that is what they will do.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Right lane you must continue in that lane (NO left turn) Left lane continue in that lane or left turn your choice. It is that simple period.

There are 2-lane roundabouts that merge into only ONE lane on the exit. No matter which lane in the circle you are, you MUST exit into only one singular lane, because there is no other lane at the exit.

[Stu from NYC]

The posts in reply will prove my points. My dad taught me to drive, His advice was expect the people around you to do the stupidest possible thing because that is what they will do.

Your dad was a very wise fellow

[Joe C.]

I think we've gone around and around on this subject......

[Bogie Shooter]

Your most accurate and profound statement. I don't trust. !!!!!!😎

Which statement? Are you aware of reply with quote?

[Bogie Shooter]

I think we've gone around and around on this subject......

Repeat this at post #75!:a040:

[DARFAP]

Signal your exit.

[Bilyclub]

I NEVER EVER trust a turn signal on any car when in the RAB. Most folks don't even know their signal is still signaling from before they even got into the RAB. Their hearing can not be trusted to know the signal is making the blinking noise.

I make sure I NEVER drive next to anyone in a RAB. I always hang back to not be next to another car. You just never know what someone is going to do and I've seen some near misses in the RABs.

On Buena Vista when it's busy you're alway entering the circle with another vehicle. Sure, you can wait to enter, but that line of cars behind you will be a little irritated.

[coffeebean]

Driving alongside other vehicles in a traffic circle or passing them in a traffic circle is entirely legal and appropriate so long as you stay in your marked lane. If, say, I am driving south on Morse and not turning off, I use the middle lane and stay in that lane throughout. I’m free to pass someone turning right onto the first road. I am NOT free to turn right onto the first road from the middle lane. I AM free to turn right onto the second road from the left land or to keep going around the circle. That’s the way the lanes are marked. If you are in the right lane and continuing south on Morse, the second turn, then there is no conflict. However, if you are in the right lane and continuing on to the third exit or returning north on Morse, then I have the right of way for that second turn south on Morse. If you run into me because you want to take the third turn, but you were asleep at the wheel and entered the roundabout in the wrong lane, then you will be at fault. You need to watch to make sure I’m not turning. Turn signals won’t necessarily help because we are side by side. So the signals are hard to see.

That said, I’m cautious in situations like that because some people are terrible drivers. I tend to accelerate so people will see I am taking the second right or hold back a little to make sure they aren’t going to try to go on to the third right from the right lane.

I think the traffic circles in The Villages are marvels of good design and clarity. So long as people read the signs in advance and follow the rules, they are easiest circles I’ve ever used, and they save a lot of time. If they are driving on autopilot or on drugs or two-fers, watch out!

Driving along side another vehicle in the RAB may not be illegal but it is so dangerous to do that. I do not trust anyone in the RAB so I hang back and never allow myself to be in a situation where a driver can cut me off or broadside my car.

[coffeebean]

Use signals properly, use lanes properly, do it all. And who on earth would trust a turn signal in any situation? They can mean nothing. They are for letting cars behind you know you why you are slowing. In roundabouts, they are for saying to those entering that you are continuing and so they definitely should not enter. - They should not enter in any case until you are past, but this gives them an extra reason not to do so. - Of course if your signal indicates you are exiting rather than continuing, those seeking to enter should not trust that. But it does let anyone behind you know your reason for slowing - its to exit. They may be less likely to ram you from behind if they expect slowing

So...signals always serve good safety purposes but never should be taken as "I'm definitely going to do this."

I maintain my speed when exiting the RAB. Why slow down?

[coffeebean]

On Buena Vista when it's busy you're alway entering the circle with another vehicle. Sure, you can wait to enter, but that line of cars behind you will be a little irritated.

I will enter with another vehicle beside me but I will hang back and let that car get ahead of me.

[Polar Bear]

On Buena Vista when it's busy you're alway entering the circle with another vehicle. Sure, you can wait to enter, but that line of cars behind you will be a little irritated.
No. You are always entering the circle with another vehicle. I am not. Nor are others who follow the safety rules. Traffic behind does not...or should not...matter.

[Topspinmo]

And what about stopping at train tracks to watch for the 4 14 to Orlando?


Only if I’m driving school bus:)

[Topspinmo]

How about just following the traffic laws concerning roundabouts?

1. Always yield to traffic in right lane of a 2 lane roundabout - never use turn signals when entering a roundabout.
2. Once in the roundabout, put on right turn signals before exiting
3. If going 3/4 of the way around in a 2 lane roundabout, merge left then merge back right and use signals to exit.

“Always yield to traffic in right lane of a 2 lane “, nope you have to yeild to both right and left lane traffic in the roundabout cause the left or inside lane has the option to turn right at next exit. If you pull out and hit that vehicle you will be at fault for not yielding to all traffic in the roundabout. They right turn after stop rule don’t apply to roundabouts.

[Win1894]

I know the official recommendations on driving in traffic circles instruct that turn signals should be used. In a perfect world that may work but I see so much incorrect use of them that it makes me think that they are ineffective. I see drivers with the left turn blinker on while taking an exit and the right turn on while bypassing an exit. My thought is to make sure you are in the proper lane for your exit (and I do mean all the way in that lane instead of partially in the other lane) and keep moving. There are signs before each roundabout that instruct which lane to be in for the exit you are taking if you are unfamiliar with it. Obviously right lane for first or second exit and left lane for second and third exit. Also don’t enter a roundabout with another car in the left lane beside you. Point here is concentration on proper driving in the circles and less focus on turn signals. Personally I don’t trust another driver’s turn signal while in a roundabout anyway

Agree. This recommendation is nuts. In a state with one of the worst driving records in the US, in an area with a high percentage of older drivers, many of whom can't even drive a golf cart without hitting a biker or walker, and they want them to use turn signals in a traffic circle. Brilliant!

[Topspinmo]

Agree. This recommendation is nuts. In a state with one of the worst driving records in the US, in an area with a high percentage of older drivers, many of whom can't even drive a golf cart without hitting a biker or walker, and they want them to use turn signals in a traffic circle. Brilliant!

And where do you think all the drivers came from? All the natives left on trail of tears.

[jklfairwin]

My experience has been that Florida drivers, in general, have no idea of the purpose of the little lever arm on the left side of the wheel so they never touch it. Or else drivers ed in Florida includes specific instructions to never use turn signals because other people might then know your intentions and that would ruin the surprise.

[coffeebean]

In Florida, brake lights = turn signals.

[Stu from NYC]

My experience has been that Florida drivers, in general, have no idea of the purpose of the little lever arm on the left side of the wheel so they never touch it. Or else drivers ed in Florida includes specific instructions to never use turn signals because other people might then know your intentions and that would ruin the surprise.

Very true and many do not know about the right one either

[Win1894]

And where do you think all the drivers came from? All the natives left on trail of tears.

Not really sure where they came from - maybe Missouri, Nebraska, or possibly Oklahoma. I'll find out and get back to you.

[VApeople]

All the natives left on trail of tears.

Not all of them. Some of the Seminoles stayed in Florida and fought three wars against the U.S. Government.

I believe many of them never surrendered to the U.S. forces and are still living in the Everglades.

Seminole Wars - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole_Wars#:~:text=Both%20in%20human%20and%20mo netary%20terms%2C%20the%20Seminole,after%20the%20c onclusion%20of%20the%20War%20of%201812).

[LianneMigiano]

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:I am old so I just leave one of my turn signals on all the time.

[Spsmith444]

I just drive slow with flashers on and everyone gets out of my way.

[Bilyclub]

No. You are always entering the circle with another vehicle. I am not. Nor are others who follow the safety rules. Traffic behind does not...or should not...matter.

On the contrary, You are making up your own safety rules. There is nothing wrong with entering a clear circle with a vehicle in the next lane. There does not appear to any Florida Laws regarding circles in Chapter 316 so the closest thing is the below brochure.
https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

[Two Bills]

Just thank your lucky stars that the majority of posters on this subject, never worked as Air Traffic Controllers!!:icon_wink:

[davidedavis]

In the U.K., if you don't use a turn signal when exiting then you are reminded with a single finger salute. :a040:

[Two Bills]

In the U.K., if you don't use a turn signal when exiting then you are reminded with a single finger salute. :a040:

We live in quite a posh area.
You get two fingers round here!:icon_wink:

[Polar Bear]

On the contrary, You are making up your own safety rules. There is nothing wrong with entering a clear circle with a vehicle in the next lane. There does not appear to any Florida Laws regarding circles in Chapter 316 so the closest thing is the below brochure.
https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf
From your own source...

“DO NOT ENTER next to a vehicle in the round- about, as that vehicle may be exiting at the next exit.”

And...

The Yield sign graphic with the following text “YIELD to traffic already in the roundabout.”

Whether or not you find specific laws, it is an accepted and very good best practice for navigating a roundabout. Again, the above is from your source.

[Bilyclub]

From your own source...

“DO NOT ENTER next to a vehicle in the round- about, as that vehicle may be exiting at the next exit.”

And...

The Yield sign graphic with the following text “YIELD to traffic already in the roundabout.”

Whether or not you find specific laws, it is an accepted and very good best practice for navigating a roundabout. Again, the above is from your source.



That quote is for a vehicle already in the circle why else would they say that vehicle may be exiting at the next exit. I never said to enter a circle when there is an oncoming vehicle. An accepted practice? Why, because you say so? Entering a circle with a vehicle in the lane next to you also entering the circle is acceptable and common practice that I see every day. If the directional signs posted before the circles were followed there is no conflict. The outside lane should turn right or go straight.

[j_vermilya]

The biggest problems, including near misses, are people changing lanes in the round about. Especially when exiting, do not change lanes until you are out of the round about.

[VApeople]

Since all of us writing these posts are currently alive, it means we all must know how to navigate the roundabouts. Otherwise, we would be dead.

[Polar Bear]

Bilyclub, let’s have a truce, okay?

I was talking about entering a roundabout with vehicles already approaching in the roundabout. You were talking about entering a roundabout with a vehicle beside you on the approaching road. Two different things. We had a misunderstanding.

I will say this though...if I entered a roundabout with a vehicle beside me on the approaching road, I would be adjusting my speed as needed to avoid having the vehicle beside me in the roundabout...a basic principle of roundabout driving.

[Stu from NYC]

Since all of us writing these posts are currently alive, it means we all must know how to navigate the roundabouts. Otherwise, we would be dead.

Would not be so sure about that.

[coffeebean]

Bilyclub, let’s have a truce, okay?

I was talking about entering a roundabout with vehicles already approaching in the roundabout. You were talking about entering a roundabout with a vehicle beside you on the approaching road. Two different things. We had a misunderstanding.

I will say this though...if I entered a roundabout with a vehicle beside me on the approaching road, I would be adjusting my speed as needed to avoid having the vehicle beside me in the roundabout...a basic principle of roundabout driving.
Agree. As I said before, I will enter the RAB next to another car but I "hang back" and do not ever drive next to a car in the RAB. Ya never know what another driver is gonna do.

[nn0wheremann]

I would be happy if people would stop changing lanes in a round about...ever, and especially if they would stop changing lanes right before they leave the roundabout. Apparently they do this so they can enter the resident side of the gate...but they should WAIT until they leave the round about to change lanes. This happens frequently, every day. I am very cautious as I know people won't even follow this simple rule
Ok the simple roundabout rules. Whoever is in has right of way over whoever is out. Whoever is in front has right of way over whoever is behind. Never change lanes in the roundabout. Never overtake, drive next to or pass, anyone ahead of you. Signal a right hand turn for your exit. Corollary rules: hang onto your hat and watch out for the other nutcases around you.

[Bilyclub]

I'll stick to the published standards...