Seniors First?

[Skip]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

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[JoMar]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

Many other places to get it without all those restrictions.....:)

[asianthree]

Those who are exposed to the public, who have to work to feed their families, can go first.

I am happy for those who are chasing the vaccine, spending days on every mobile device, and traveling hours to get their dose.

Haven’t changed much since last March, no worries on, or if vaccine will be available. Life is still good.

[Neils]

The rules you listed are federal program guidelines.
If you go one of the Florida or county operated sites, I think they are still keeping the priority to 65+ and healthcare workers

[kathyspear]

AND I must reveal my race on that form. Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?
Skip

Forms that ask for race/ethnicity usually have a "DECLINE TO ANSWER" option. I noticed that the forms I printed out for my 2nd Pfizer shot in Lake County do not have such an option. I usually check DECLINE, not because I care if people know my race but because that info is being collected at the request of the feds and I don't think like that the govt collects such info and connects everything to race.

The vax form does allow you to check UNKNOWN if you don't know your race. I wonder how many people select that box.

kathy

[golfing eagles]

Forms that ask for race/ethnicity usually have a "DECLINE TO ANSWER" option. I noticed that the forms I printed out for my 2nd Pfizer shot in Lake County do not have such an option. I usually check DECLINE, not because I care if people know my race but because that info is being collected at the request of the feds and I don't think like that the govt collects such info and connects everything to race.

The vax form does allow you to check UNKNOWN if you don't know your race. I wonder how many people select that box.

kathy

I usually write in Vulcan or Romulan depending on my mood, but Wookie is just as acceptable:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

Pomosexual is a good choice when writing what sex you are.
Gives them something to look up.

[JimJohnson]

I’ve said from the beginning that retired seniors should be last and WD is on the right track.

[RaunchyRich]

Why ever go to Winn Dixie in the first place... everything there is nasty

[golfing eagles]

Why ever go to Winn Dixie in the first place... everything there is nasty

So says someone with the screen name "Raunchy" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[NachoMama]

Why would a 66 year old retiree go before a 58 year old nurse, or a 49 year old physical therapist, or the firefighter who might have to give you CPR?

[PugMom]

So says someone with the screen name "Raunchy" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

:clap2::1rotfl:

[JULIE2049]

So much for seniors first.

[ckbenjamin]

If it means my children could go back to work safely, they could have my place in line (if I could even get in line, that is.) As things are now I figure it'll be a minimum of a year before they can get vaccinated. This country and more specifically my children and their spouses need to get back to work.

[ficoguy]

Yoga instructors are also considered educators and are high priority.

[ficoguy]

No more work. Universal Basic Income.

[gypsycaravan]

Wow --how things change!

[MandoMan]

Why ever go to Winn Dixie in the first place... everything there is nasty

My girlfriend used to think that. Then she actually went to one—the one at Lake Sumter Landing—and loved it. She said it is so much nicer than the Publix stores, has better quality produce, and is much less expensive.

[cjeast24]

So much for Winn Dixie

[ficoguy]

I won't patronize anything with Dixie in its name.

[Skunky1]

The same people that chased the toilet paper are probably chasing a vaccine

[westernrider75]

I will only address one item in your post. The requirement for race/ethnicity is a FEDERAL requirement on the form. This is not a Winn Dixie issue.

[MandoMan]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

I’m delighted that a week ago I managed to find a place to get a vaccination, despite being not much over 65. However, I do think the policy of Winn-Dixie is in line with the federal recommendations and a much more sensible way of decreasing cases by making communication of the virus more difficult. I WANT supermarket checkers to get vaccinated. They are at much greater risk of getting sick and passing it on than I am. The Florida policy is heavily based on the state wanting to reward a large pool of faithful voters.

As for the race question, I don’t like it either, but in this case it is relevant. This is how New York City discovered that African Americans were at greater risk of dying if they caught the disease. The government legitimately needs to know if they are also more likely to have side effects from the vaccination.

[Bill14564]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

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If I understand you correctly, I believe you are reading more into this than was intended. As others have stated, and as shown on the Winn-Dixie page, these are the CDC guidelines: 75+ are in group 1B and 65+ in group 1C. These are the same groupings that all other sites in Florida are using EXCEPT that Florida is also allowing 65+ in group 1B.

As for the waiver, that *might* be common to all Covid vaccination locations.

As for my revealing my race: Either my race is so strikingly obvious that it cannot be a secret and is revealed on sight or my race is hidden so well that I can make up anything that I want. If I care that much about my race then I want to make sure they get it right so I'll fill it in myself. If I don't care then it won't bother me to fill it in either accurately or with any nonsense I can think of at the time. In the grand scheme of things, this is not what I would be concerned about.

[Girlcopper]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip
Your info is inaccurate. Thise are federal guidlines NOT the state of Florida. The rules have NOT changed as to who is eligible. You should read thru things before posting information that is not accurate

[coconutmama]

My girlfriend used to think that. Then she actually went to one—the one at Lake Sumter Landing—and loved it. She said it is so much nicer than the Publix stores, has better quality produce, and is much less expensive.

Publix is definitely overpriced

[J1ceasar]

Same waiver as everywhere

[JimJohnson]

Why would a 66 year old retiree go before a 58 year old nurse, or a 49 year old physical therapist, or the firefighter who might have to give you CPR?

Yes Yes Yes!!!!!!
Think of our country and not simply of yourself.

[Byte1]

It seems that the obvious escapes some folks when hysteria sets in. The reason for starting with seniors is that they are the ones that are primarily filling the hospitals and they are the ones most likely to perish from the virus. I know of at least 12 young folks that have had covid and survived it, mostly with symptoms that lasted about three days. Less trouble than the flu. It is the seniors that suffer the most, so it is most dangerous to them. You will see that many medical staff are passing on the vaccine, probably because they know they are in the younger group that will survive it easily. Just my opinion.
Of course, there is always the argument that by giving it to everyone else BEFORE the seniors would result in a new way to save Social Security......:1rotfl:

[Villages Kahuna]

Sounds like most of the requirements follow the CDC guidelines. That’s unlike the simple “just be over 65” guidelines set by Governor Desantis.

[bjd0105]

So because I am a pharmacy technician I should not get the shot before anyone over 65? Well sorry to say but I've had both shots. The government has had since last year when they started to work on a vaccine to make a game plan for distribution. They failed us once again.

[Cranford61]

Why would a 66 year old retiree go before a 58 year old nurse, or a 49 year old physical therapist, or the firefighter who might have to give you CPR?
Or even a strawberry picker.

[La lamy]

I believe the vaccine priority should be for people who are most likely to end up with serious complications and hospitalization from Covid. I think we can all in good conscience know if we are in that category. I'm sure many who have received it were not in that category. I for one have no problem being at the back of the line.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Those who are exposed to the public, who have to work to feed their families, can go first.

I am happy for those who are chasing the vaccine, spending days on every mobile device, and traveling hours to get their dose.

Haven’t changed much since last March, no worries on, or if vaccine will be available. Life is still good.

Would you place young healthy people that have to work ahead of people over the age of 65 with health issues.

Most of the deaths are of people senior citizens with underlying conditions. The chances of younger people dying from Covid-19 is very low.

I say stop the death toll before stopping spreading of the virus.

[JanetMM]

Publix is definitely overpriced

But their store brand of ice cream is really good and it is a full half gallon, like they all used to be!

[Guitarman1951]

Why would you say something like that. That is totally untrue and you know it.

[rstebbins]

People who are working, making a living and supplying all of us who are retired with our food and services should be first in line. Everyone has to get back to work or we are all in big trouble. Those of us who have the luxury of not working need to be patient as we try to get back to normal. I have not stopped doing most things, just being careful. If you are that worried, just stay at home. But when you go the Publix or Winn Dixie for food, you will be safer if those people are already protected and don't forget all those postal workers, UPS/FEDX drivers that are delivering all those online purchases right to your door.

[billethkid]

Repeating my post from another thread:

If half TV residents get the shot that would be around 70,000.
For good measuring and guessing or out guessing the second guessers throw in another 30,000 for visitors, and all other....
Hence 100,000 folks to vaccinate.
At 1000 per day all done by the end of April.
There should be more than 1000 per day so sometime during the next 90 days all the hub bub and racing to get an appointment will be over.

On a list?
Most of us are.
You could be next....many have posted that they were and are lucky.
Those who are number 29,001 or 39,001 just have to sit and wait.

We have put in a year of waiting....another 1-90 days...not a problem!!

[Clark124]

I went to lake Square mall , they kept insisting I give my mothers maiden name , I said no way that's the number one security question in the world I said NO. After going back and forth with this person he finally relented.

[BaileyMom]

As much as I think Gov DeSantis has done a wonderful job rolling out the vaccination process, I feel the 65 and over policy was not well thought out. I agree with Winn-Dixie's policy. Those in essential positions should be first in line for the vaccine after all they have been keeping our communities running as smoothly as possible. After essential workers, then those with highly compromised immune systems and seniors over 75 should be next in line. I would have liked to have seen a higher age limit as seniors in that age group often aren't computer/technology literate and weren't able to compete with those younger than them for a coveted spot in line. The media has brought on utter fear about COVID and created a group of manic seniors looking to get vaccinated. I recognize COVID can be deadly but comparing deaths to cases doesn't support the hype.

[DAVES]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

Reality. There is a limited supply relative to demand.

Sadly, this post says to heck with everyone BUT me.

I would not want to be the one having to make these decisions.

[Spalumbos62]

Why would you say something like that. That is totally untrue and you know it.

?????what...that the ice cream is a full half gallon?

[Byte1]

People who are working, making a living and supplying all of us who are retired with our food and services should be first in line. Everyone has to get back to work or we are all in big trouble. Those of us who have the luxury of not working need to be patient as we try to get back to normal. I have not stopped doing most things, just being careful. If you are that worried, just stay at home. But when you go the Publix or Winn Dixie for food, you will be safer if those people are already protected and don't forget all those postal workers, UPS/FEDX drivers that are delivering all those online purchases right to your door.

I disagree to a certain extent. My children have had COVID as well as my grandchildren and they have only missed a couple days of work and school. It was not even as serious to them as a flu would have been, had they caught that instead. This is a fallacy that working people have to be inoculated before going back to work. Even though, that is probably where half of the virus is transmitted. The other half by infection at home, in my opinion.
On the other hand, it does not matter where seniors become infected, IF they become infected they can DIE, period. I am not saying this because I am a senior. I originally had no intention of getting the shot, but changed my mind because of my wife. The young are shrugging it off unless they have serious underlying illnesses. Seniors are dying, regardless of illness due mostly to age related weakness.
So, I say take care of those that are filling the hospitals and let the youth cope with a couple days off of work or school.

[Rodneysblue]

I usually write in Vulcan or Romulan depending on my mood, but Wookie is just as acceptable:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Personally I go with Big Foot.

[bonnieww60]

If you don’t like it go somewhere else.

[Rosebud1949]

Yes NACHOMAMA I totally agree with that statement. First responders, those in public view who serve us are first. We can wait, trouble is waiting is not a normal thing here

[jimjamuser]

Why would a 66 year old retiree go before a 58 year old nurse, or a 49 year old physical therapist, or the firefighter who might have to give you CPR?
Because the 66 plus-year-old is more likely to become positive. The more people are positive, the more become hospitalized and overcrowd the hospitals. They run up huge bills that can NEVER be paid by the individuals. Plus some die. All this does is destabilize healthcare and its financial base. It eventually adversely affects all of society.

And what of the virus? With many positive over 65 cases, the virus has an increased environment to duplicate in - and mutate. Summary........there really is a case to be made for vaccinating the over 65 age group early. The same could be said for the over 75 which, I believe was the original intent of the CDC. But, state Governors decided that they knew better than the Science experts at the CDC. What a surprise, who knew?

[newgirl]

They don't have the option's that most have. Most are below poverty and if they do not pick/ process food then we would have more starving. Then there is the science that darker skinned folks are dying at a much higher rate.....Yes, the strawberry pickers along with everyone in fields and factories should come before you to heal this country.
Do you really believe your life is more valuable? Why?
Do you wear a mask? Stay home, take all precautions? Thank God you have those options.

[john352]

Forms that ask for race/ethnicity usually have a "DECLINE TO ANSWER" option. I noticed that the forms I printed out for my 2nd Pfizer shot in Lake County do not have such an option. I usually check DECLINE, not because I care if people know my race but because that info is being collected at the request of the feds and I don't think like that the govt collects such info and connects everything to race.

The vax form does allow you to check UNKNOWN if you don't know your race. I wonder how many people select that box.

kathy

Many times in the news there have been stories about how people in Black and Hispanic communities have a higher rate of deaths due to COVID. These communities have a history of being underserved by the medical industry. The federal government has a responsibility to ensure “equal protection”; therefore, it is reasonable for them to collect data one the number of Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics are being vaccinated.

[coffeebean]

Why would you say something like that. That is totally untrue and you know it.

Please quote the person you are directing your comments to. I have no idea who you are replying to here. Who "knows it"?????

[coffeebean]

I went to lake Square mall , they kept insisting I give my mothers maiden name , I said no way that's the number one security question in the world I said NO. After going back and forth with this person he finally relented.

Gee, I thought "What is the name of your first pet" is the number one security question. Just kidding.

[Skip]

You are a bitter sounding selfish person.....why? because you are not 1st in line at Winn Dixie!

OP here...
I did not say I agreed or disagreed with Winn Dixie's eligibility requirements. I only pointed out the huge difference between the governor's "Seniors First" policy and what Winn Dixie is stating when you want to get the vaccine from them.

As for the waiver, it is clearly a Winn Dixie document with their logos on it. You hold them harmless by signing it. As far as I know, correct me if you signed a similar legal document when you got YOUR shot, no other location (including Publix) makes you sign a waiver and ASKS FOR YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER on the form. That is an identity theft problem just waiting to happen.

As for collecting racial data, the goverment doesn't require it, and I feel that THAT DATA can be collected AFTER you react to the virus (like being hospitalized or dying) or reacting to the vaccine (like headache or stroke), not BEFORE.

I am not a selfish person. Never said I wanted to be first in line. And you don't know if I am a senior OR middle aged worker who has already been struck by the virus and luckily survived.

Please don't shoot the messenger.

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[FromNY]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip
About time some one is offering to the people who have to go to work! Those people are who can easily spread the virus.

[Aloha1]

Sounds like most of the requirements follow the CDC guidelines. That’s unlike the simple “just be over 65” guidelines set by Governor Desantis.

The rest of the story is the Feds guidelines are recommendations only. They specifically say State guidelines take precedence. Therefore, 65 + first and 2nd shots held in reserve here in FL. Right on!

[Velvet]

First, save lives, then control the spread. The humanitarian thing to do, in my opinion.

[jimjamuser]

They don't have the option's that most have. Most are below poverty and if they do not pick/ process food then we would have more starving. Then there is the science that darker skinned folks are dying at a much higher rate.....Yes, the strawberry pickers along with everyone in fields and factories should come before you to heal this country.
Do you really believe your life is more valuable? Why?
Do you wear a mask? Stay home, take all precautions? Thank God you have those options.
We would not necessarily have less food or other goods or services. That would stay the same because of demand staying constant. The rich owners would have to pay a livable wage to their workers. The owners would just get less profit and they would have less wealth to brag about at their country clubs. Also, the owners would have to invest capital in machines to pick, distribute, and control goods and services that way. It would take change, which requires work and imagination.

[Topspinmo]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

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Personally I don’t like anything from Winn Dixie.

[jimjamuser]

About time some one is offering to the people who have to go to work! Those people are who can easily spread the virus.
Lots of people can have different opinions as to what group should go 1st or early - but, only the CDC has the medical and scientific experts that work FULL-TIME to come up with guidelines. Those guidelines should be followed.

[Topspinmo]

If it means my children could go back to work safely, they could have my place in line (if I could even get in line, that is.) As things are now I figure it'll be a minimum of a year before they can get vaccinated. This country and more specifically my children and their spouses need to get back to work.

What about my children? Me, me, and mine first right?

[asianthree]

Would you place young healthy people that have to work ahead of people over the age of 65 with health issues.

Most of the deaths are of people senior citizens with underlying conditions. The chances of younger people dying from Covid-19 is very low.

I say stop the death toll before stopping spreading of the virus.

Those who work are exposed everyday, do you know if they are positive, NO, do they know they are positive, No, or Yes, and if so will probably continue to work, to put food on their table.
Enter your age group, who gets a paycheck and has the choice to not be exposed to anyone, unless they choose to, who doesn’t have to worry about their children going hungry. I worked for over 5 months during the initial start, was it had to see a 80yo with previous health issues die, sure.

Was it harder to see the 35yo with 4 kids die, yes 100 times harder. But I am guessing you would think different. Most of the loss we experienced was under 50, but I didn’t sit in front of my television, I chose to return to work to do the most good. Media, and real time is two different views.

But no worries on the younger healthcare gens taking your vaccine spot, many have said no.

[NachoMama]

Because the 66 plus-year-old is more likely to become positive. The more people are positive, the more become hospitalized and overcrowd the hospitals. They run up huge bills that can NEVER be paid by the individuals. Plus some die. All this does is destabilize healthcare and its financial base. It eventually adversely affects all of society.

And what of the virus? With many positive over 65 cases, the virus has an increased environment to duplicate in - and mutate. Summary........there really is a case to be made for vaccinating the over 65 age group early. The same could be said for the over 75 which, I believe was the original intent of the CDC. But, state Governors decided that they knew better than the Science experts at the CDC. What a surprise, who knew?

Nonsense. The retiree can stay at home, and none of us will suffer in his absence. He wants the vaccine so he can go out and play.

Also, and this is actual science, the 66 year old is *not* more likely to become positive than of the 59 year old doing a critical job. He may, due to age and flab, be more likely to croak - but that’s why he should play it safe and stay home until the folks performing essential duties have been stuck.

[asianthree]

What about my children? Me, me, and mine first right?

Mine have been vaccinated, yep before most. It was mandatory, or resign. If they had a choice all would have refused.

[rondvu2]

A 49 year old nurse would probably want the 66 year old retire to go first so she has one less patient

[Girlcopper]

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

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Thats all federal guidelines NOT the guidelines for the state of Fl. Many should fully understand the news articles before posting them and scaring people. Do you actually think Winn Dixie will operate under seperate guidelines than everywhere else??? Think about it!! Its the same there as anywhere else in Fl, so to the rest of the readers.......jump on an appt as soon as it opens! And Oh My God, you have to reveal your race!! Horrors!! 99% of any forms or apps has that question. Whats the big deal? You answer all the personal questions on the form about your health and youre horrified to list your race?? Do you actually think a computer generated appointment will seperate the apps according to race? Is that the insinuation?

[banjobob]

My wife was one of those that was jumping through the hoops for the vaccine , finally connected in Orange County , personally I am in good health 80 years old and may not get the shot ,still considering . When my “Doc”
has it I might get one at his office.

[allsport]

Everyone signs their rights away wherever they get it.

[Civicar]

I believe Winn Dixie got it right. If those had been the vaccination guidelines across the country from the beginning, our infection rate would be much lower now. We, Seniors, can control our points of contact and how much we want to go out and control our level of exposure much more than all those who are working in jobs with contact with lots of people every single day. If they are vaccinated first, that protects Seniors and everyone else from possible infection. The only reason, in my opinion, that our Governor made "Seniors First" is that we vote at higher percentages than younger people. We need to put health before politics in a global pandemic. Even people in Nursing homes are better protected if their younger staff are vaccinated and tested first. That is a bubble that contacts can be controlled. Kudos to Winn Dixie!

[dhdallas]

Despicable to have to wait our turn. The Villagers are God's Chosen People. "Me first, me first" is our battle cry!

[CFrance]

Would you place young healthy people that have to work ahead of people over the age of 65 with health issues.

Most of the deaths are of people senior citizens with underlying conditions. The chances of younger people dying from Covid-19 is very low.

I say stop the death toll before stopping spreading of the virus.
I would add to that the fact that vaccinating the elderly will keep more hospital ICU beds free.

[coffeebean]

This is one of those conundrum situations. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[Two Bills]

Everyone signs their rights away wherever they get it.

Are you actually serious?

[Byte1]

Everyone should be able to get the vaccination IF they want it, but when there is still a shortage they have to choose the most vulnerable first. The most vulnerable are the seniors, period. The young simply shrug the virus off easier than the Flu, IF they are not medically handicapped. If the first responders are young, then they could wait a bit to get their shots until there was sufficient quantity to go around. They might get sick and miss a couple days of work. Same with many medical professionals, UNLESS there is a threat that they might pass on the virus to patients. To say that someone working in a restaurant or a discount store NEEDS the vaccination in order to work is being disingenuous. To say that teachers need to be inoculated before teaching is also exaggerating. How many of these folks get the Flu shot every year? A few months ago, everyone was screaming about the hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID patients and people dying. Now, everyone wants the shot so that they can go back to work or do whatever it is they do. Are they going to die without it? Doubtful. Retired does not mean someone else is more valuable. It means that retirees have worked long enough to EARN the right to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Retired or aged or senior does not mean they deserve to die, just because they are in a younger generation's way. Take care of those that have paved the way for YOU and then take care of those less vulnerable. I am not saying that folks that are prone to illness and have a low immunity should have to wait, but the stats prove that the aged are dying from the virus at a much higher rate when exposed.
When I said that anyone that is worrying about others not wearing a mask should stay home, I was told that I don't care about my fellow man if I did not care about folks wearing a mask. Now, you folks are saying if you are old you should stay home and let the young go to work and school with an inoculation. Funny how that works, huh?

I spent hours and days/weeks trying to get my spouse a vaccination for the virus and finally succeeded. There were hundreds of thousands competing for the spot. I finally got her an appointment this week and spontaneously succeeded in getting me one also. I had originally though of waiting until the VA offered them, as I have not been worried about contracting the virus. I seem to have a very good immunity system, so I have not been concerned for myself. I had to make an hour and half trip one way to get her the shot so I went ahead and got mine also. Now the VA is offering their Vets COVID vaccinations. Go figure.
The point is that the only way to get this country back to normal is to reduce the hospitalizations and deaths. You don't lower that rate by giving the shots FIRST to everyone but the seniors. The seniors are filling up the hospital beds and dying. The young can weather a couple of days of discomfort. Very few have had serious effects from the virus.

Someone said something about giving the vaccination to those that are in close proximity of customers or patients with the reasoning that they would not be passing it on to others if they have been vaccinated. That interesting because I read that they do not know if an immune person can pass it on or not. That is the reason they want everyone to continue to wear masks, so they don't pass it on to others. If wearing a mask protects others, and you do not have the virus then why else would you continue to wear a stupid mask? I am not wearing the mask to protect myself if I am immune. If I am protecting you because you do not have the vaccination yet, then I shouldn't need much of a mask because something against your face is going to stop droplets from being expelled, regardless of how thin the material is, right? Just a thought.
If I am getting this serum put into me to make me immune, then I am not going to wear a mask to protect others. Why? Because you should worry about wearing a mask to protect yourself.

[Shimpy]

Those who are exposed to the public, who have to work to feed their families, can go first.

I am happy for those who are chasing the vaccine, spending days on every mobile device, and traveling hours to get their dose.

Haven’t changed much since last March, no worries on, or if vaccine will be available. Life is still good.


I believe in several weeks they will be competing for your business (shots) just as in FLU shots. This will happen once vaccine is more available.

[Civicar]

The vaccines don't give immunity. The percentages refer to efficacy. The vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting very sick or dying. But you can still get infected after vaccination and at least with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines you can pass the virus on to others. So please keep your masks on!

[jimjamuser]

Nonsense. The retiree can stay at home, and none of us will suffer in his absence. He wants the vaccine so he can go out and play.

Also, and this is actual science, the 66 year old is *not* more likely to become positive than of the 59 year old doing a critical job. He may, due to age and flab, be more likely to croak - but that’s why he should play it safe and stay home until the folks performing essential duties have been stuck.
All true and older Americans do get sicker with CV and then get into the hospital and then more die. Those are the statistics AND science. When the hospitals are clogged then all age groups get less or sometimes denied care. It just makes sense to do the older population 1st after hospital workers. And just check that England did it that way and have had the world's biggest decrease in positive cases. England PROVES what I have been saying as opposed to just someone's individual opinion.

[jimjamuser]

A 49 year old nurse would probably want the 66 year old retire to go first so she has one less patient
That made no sense to me?

[jimjamuser]

I would add to that the fact that vaccinating the elderly will keep more hospital ICU beds free.
Exactly, that's what I had said.

[jimjamuser]

This is one of those conundrum situations. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Anything and everything has a downside. The good must be weighed against the bad in any decision either personal or group or national.

[jimjamuser]

Everyone should be able to get the vaccination IF they want it, but when there is still a shortage they have to choose the most vulnerable first. The most vulnerable are the seniors, period. The young simply shrug the virus off easier than the Flu, IF they are not medically handicapped. If the first responders are young, then they could wait a bit to get their shots until there was sufficient quantity to go around. They might get sick and miss a couple days of work. Same with many medical professionals, UNLESS there is a threat that they might pass on the virus to patients. To say that someone working in a restaurant or a discount store NEEDS the vaccination in order to work is being disingenuous. To say that teachers need to be inoculated before teaching is also exaggerating. How many of these folks get the Flu shot every year? A few months ago, everyone was screaming about the hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID patients and people dying. Now, everyone wants the shot so that they can go back to work or do whatever it is they do. Are they going to die without it? Doubtful. Retired does not mean someone else is more valuable. It means that retirees have worked long enough to EARN the right to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Retired or aged or senior does not mean they deserve to die, just because they are in a younger generation's way. Take care of those that have paved the way for YOU and then take care of those less vulnerable. I am not saying that folks that are prone to illness and have a low immunity should have to wait, but the stats prove that the aged are dying from the virus at a much higher rate when exposed.
When I said that anyone that is worrying about others not wearing a mask should stay home, I was told that I don't care about my fellow man if I did not care about folks wearing a mask. Now, you folks are saying if you are old you should stay home and let the young go to work and school with an inoculation. Funny how that works, huh?

I spent hours and days/weeks trying to get my spouse a vaccination for the virus and finally succeeded. There were hundreds of thousands competing for the spot. I finally got her an appointment this week and spontaneously succeeded in getting me one also. I had originally though of waiting until the VA offered them, as I have not been worried about contracting the virus. I seem to have a very good immunity system, so I have not been concerned for myself. I had to make an hour and half trip one way to get her the shot so I went ahead and got mine also. Now the VA is offering their Vets COVID vaccinations. Go figure.
The point is that the only way to get this country back to normal is to reduce the hospitalizations and deaths. You don't lower that rate by giving the shots FIRST to everyone but the seniors. The seniors are filling up the hospital beds and dying. The young can weather a couple of days of discomfort. Very few have had serious effects from the virus.

Someone said something about giving the vaccination to those that are in close proximity of customers or patients with the reasoning that they would not be passing it on to others if they have been vaccinated. That interesting because I read that they do not know if an immune person can pass it on or not. That is the reason they want everyone to continue to wear masks, so they don't pass it on to others. If wearing a mask protects others, and you do not have the virus then why else would you continue to wear a stupid mask? I am not wearing the mask to protect myself if I am immune. If I am protecting you because you do not have the vaccination yet, then I shouldn't need much of a mask because something against your face is going to stop droplets from being expelled, regardless of how thin the material is, right? Just a thought.
If I am getting this serum put into me to make me immune, then I am not going to wear a mask to protect others. Why? Because you should worry about wearing a mask to protect yourself.
Correct up to the point about NOT wearing a mask. Scientists say wear one until CV is 98% irradicated. That is enough for me.

[jimjamuser]

The vaccines don't give immunity. The percentages refer to efficacy. The vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting very sick or dying. But you can still get infected after vaccination and at least with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines you can pass the virus on to others. So please keep your masks on!
Several things about CV are still unknown - including how long the efficacy lasts - estimates are from 3 months to several years?????

[golfing eagles]

The vaccines don't give immunity. The percentages refer to efficacy. The vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting very sick or dying. But you can still get infected after vaccination and at least with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines you can pass the virus on to others. So please keep your masks on!

Care to name a REPUTABLE source for that nonsense?

[Byte1]

The vaccines don't give immunity. The percentages refer to efficacy. The vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting very sick or dying. But you can still get infected after vaccination and at least with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines you can pass the virus on to others. So please keep your masks on!

Hmm, that's not what I read about the subject by the Mayo Clinic.
The article I read said that the vaccine builds antibodies targeted at the virus to give one immunity from it. AND if you are one of the very, very few that still becomes infected by the virus, you will basically shrug it off with mild symptoms. It also said that there was a most likely chance, not yet totally proven that you can not pass on the virus to anyone else. Of course, I am paraphrasing based on what I took from the article. Since no one knows for sure, they advise practicing caution. They also said that the N95 mask would not be necessary and to leave those for medical professionals that need them. A simple mask would work well enough for those vaccinated until proof is established that they are truly immune and unable to transmit the virus to others.

Of course, my disclaimer is that I am in no way a medical professional. However, I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express if that gives me any more credibility. :)

[bobdeb]

My daughter is in healthcare and thankfully has received the vaccine.

I agree with certain priorities. However, I'm 74, a cancer survivor and facing surgery in March and the "Seniors First" is just a silly statement, cause it ain't true.

I've registered all over and my health care providers don't seem to care so neither do I.

I'd just be ticked if my necessary surgery gets complicated over this. Otherwise, I'll wait til the toilet paper mentality is over.

[coffeebean]

The vaccines don't give immunity. The percentages refer to efficacy. The vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting very sick or dying. But you can still get infected after vaccination and at least with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines you can pass the virus on to others. So please keep your masks on!

The day following my second shot, I had a kick ass reaction to the Moderna vaccine. From everything I have read about these flu types of reactions, including a high fever, this is the body's immune system kicking into high gear. If these vaccines do not offer a high rate of immunity from Covid, then we have all been deceived. BUT......my body told me differently.

[coffeebean]

That made no sense to me?

It makes all the sense in the world to me. Having that 66 year old not needing hospital care will free up hospital beds and prevent our health care system from being near or at capacity. Our health care system in the US need not be stretched so thin that people of all ages be turned away from medical care for all types of medical issues.

[coffeebean]

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[coffeebean]

Everyone should be able to get the vaccination IF they want it, but when there is still a shortage they have to choose the most vulnerable first. The most vulnerable are the seniors, period. The young simply shrug the virus off easier than the Flu, IF they are not medically handicapped. If the first responders are young, then they could wait a bit to get their shots until there was sufficient quantity to go around. They might get sick and miss a couple days of work. Same with many medical professionals, UNLESS there is a threat that they might pass on the virus to patients. To say that someone working in a restaurant or a discount store NEEDS the vaccination in order to work is being disingenuous. To say that teachers need to be inoculated before teaching is also exaggerating. How many of these folks get the Flu shot every year? A few months ago, everyone was screaming about the hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID patients and people dying. Now, everyone wants the shot so that they can go back to work or do whatever it is they do. Are they going to die without it? Doubtful. Retired does not mean someone else is more valuable. It means that retirees have worked long enough to EARN the right to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Retired or aged or senior does not mean they deserve to die, just because they are in a younger generation's way. Take care of those that have paved the way for YOU and then take care of those less vulnerable. I am not saying that folks that are prone to illness and have a low immunity should have to wait, but the stats prove that the aged are dying from the virus at a much higher rate when exposed.
When I said that anyone that is worrying about others not wearing a mask should stay home, I was told that I don't care about my fellow man if I did not care about folks wearing a mask. Now, you folks are saying if you are old you should stay home and let the young go to work and school with an inoculation. Funny how that works, huh?

I spent hours and days/weeks trying to get my spouse a vaccination for the virus and finally succeeded. There were hundreds of thousands competing for the spot. I finally got her an appointment this week and spontaneously succeeded in getting me one also. I had originally though of waiting until the VA offered them, as I have not been worried about contracting the virus. I seem to have a very good immunity system, so I have not been concerned for myself. I had to make an hour and half trip one way to get her the shot so I went ahead and got mine also. Now the VA is offering their Vets COVID vaccinations. Go figure.
The point is that the only way to get this country back to normal is to reduce the hospitalizations and deaths. You don't lower that rate by giving the shots FIRST to everyone but the seniors. The seniors are filling up the hospital beds and dying. The young can weather a couple of days of discomfort. Very few have had serious effects from the virus.

Someone said something about giving the vaccination to those that are in close proximity of customers or patients with the reasoning that they would not be passing it on to others if they have been vaccinated. That interesting because I read that they do not know if an immune person can pass it on or not. That is the reason they want everyone to continue to wear masks, so they don't pass it on to others. If wearing a mask protects others, and you do not have the virus then why else would you continue to wear a stupid mask? I am not wearing the mask to protect myself if I am immune. If I am protecting you because you do not have the vaccination yet, then I shouldn't need much of a mask because something against your face is going to stop droplets from being expelled, regardless of how thin the material is, right? Just a thought.
If I am getting this serum put into me to make me immune, then I am not going to wear a mask to protect others. Why? Because you should worry about wearing a mask to protect yourself.

Wearing a mask does very little to protect the wearer of the mask. This has been said EVERYWHERE ad nauseum. Wearing a mask is much more effective for source control than protection unless you are double masking or wearing an N95 mask.

I've had both my Moderna shots and I plan to continue to wear a mask and social distance to protect others. We are being told that although having both shots and waiting the two weeks after the second shot, we vaccinated people may still pass on the virus to others.

My mask comes off when everyone who wants the vaccine has access to the vaccine. I will not, under any circumstances wear a mask to protect anti-vaxxers. It will be up to those anti-vaxxers to protect themselves in any way they see fit. Anyone who can not take the vaccine for medical reasons will also have to protect themselves which ever way they can. If that means wearing an N95 mask in public, so be it but my mask will be OFF for good.

Until then, I will continue to mask and social distance to keep our community safe.

[big guy]

I’ve said from the beginning that retired seniors should be last and WD is on the right track.

Why is that? Do you feel it's a waste of vaccine? The reasoning behind that is that the over 75 set will get sick first and take all the hospital beds.

[bobdeb]

It seems as though it's more like "Seniors Eventually".

There are obvious priorities and most of us understand them. My daughter is in healthcare so please don't get unhinged...

We all know that the senior population is more adversely affected by the virus. My goodness are we culling the herd with these delays?

I'm 74 and a cancer survivor. I'm scheduled for necessary surgery in March. I'm giving up on Sumter County and everywhere I've registered so far.

Strangely enough my healthcare providers don't really care if I'm vaccinated or not. They do care if I'm infected though.

Wonder if this will post??

[JoMar]

It seems as though it's more like "Seniors Eventually".

There are obvious priorities and most of us understand them. My daughter is in healthcare so please don't get unhinged...

We all know that the senior population is more adversely affected by the virus. My goodness are we culling the herd with these delays?

I'm 74 and a cancer survivor. I'm scheduled for necessary surgery in March. I'm giving up on Sumter County and everywhere I've registered so far.

Strangely enough my healthcare providers don't really care if I'm vaccinated or not. They do care if I'm infected though.

Wonder if this will post??

I registered with Sumter, Lake, Orange, the State of Florida and made a couple attempts with Publix. Two weeks ago we got an appointment with Publix and an appointment with Orange County on the same day. Last week my wife and I got appointment notification with Sumter. It takes patience and perseverance but they are out there.