Not getting vaccine?

[Heartnsoul]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

[Boomer]

I have never been so ready to get a shot in my entire life. (a shot in the arm that is)

We have had our first one. (Moderna) We each had sore arms for a day, but that was it.

I went with an epi-pen in my purse. Mr. Boomer has been known to have allergic reactions to certain antibiotics and once to bees, years ago. I knew they would have epi at the site, and we do not normally carry epi, and antibiotics and bee reactions have not been reported as potential issues, but I wanted to be ready anyway so I had him get one for the occasion. It was not needed. (I didn’t really think it would be, but I was in just-in-case mode.) When you fill out the form and report a history of allergic reactions, they have you wait half an hour instead of 15 minutes. He was fine — absolutely fine.

Does having just one shot so far mean that Bill Gates can track me only half the time?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I have never been so ready to get a shot in my entire life. (a shot in the arm that is)

We have had our first one. (Moderna) We each had sore arms for a day, but that was it.

I went with an epi-pen in my purse. Mr. Boomer has been known to have allergic reactions to certain antibiotics and once to bees, years ago. I knew they would have epi at the site, and we do not normally carry epi, and antibiotics and bee reactions have not been reported as potential issues, but I wanted to be ready anyway so I had him get one for the occasion. It was not needed. (I didn’t really think it would be, but I was in just-in-case mode.) When you fill out the form and report a history of allergic reactions, they have you wait half an hour instead of 15 minutes. He was fine — absolutely fine.

Does having just one shot so far mean that Bill Gates can track me only half the time?

Yes. If you get both shots he will pull out the Jewish lasers. You have no chance of escape, then!

(p.s. I'm Jewish - it's funny, I promise)

[Heartnsoul]

This post is for those NOT getting the vaccine. Please do not respond u are getting it. I would like to speak to those who are NOT GETTING IT TK U

[Boomer]

Yes. If you get both shots he will pull out the Jewish lasers. You have no chance of escape, then!

(p.s. I'm Jewish - it's funny, I promise)


Oy vey!

[Boomer]

In response to the OP’s Post #4 as I defend my Post #2:

Well, OP, even though we got the shot, I think my earlier post was helpful because there are those who might also have concerns about allergic reactions. Therefore, my post was intended to give them info that might help them with their decision. Going in with an epi in my purse (although, not needed, thank goodness) was a plan that others might want to use.

My post was legit, solid, primary source information that shared how I addressed concerns over allergic reactions and how the shot caused absolutely no problems.

You must be having your own specific concerns about getting the vaccine. Why not share them?

I remain,
Helpful, One-Shot-Down, One-To-Go Boomer

[golfing eagles]

In response to OP’s Post #4 as I defend my Post #2:

Well, OP, even though we got the shot, I think my earlier post was helpful because there are those who might also have concerns about allergic reactions. Therefore, my post was intended to give them info that might help them with their decision. Going in with an epi in my purse (although, not needed, thank goodness) was a plan that others might want to use.

My post was legit, solid, primary source information that shared how I addressed concerns over allergic reactions and how the shot caused absolutely no problems.

You must be having your own specific concerns about getting the vaccine. Why not share them?

I remain,
Helpful, One-Shot-Down, One-To-Go Boomer

That was very polite! I might have responded differently:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

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[coffeebean]

In response to the OP’s Post #4 as I defend my Post #2:

Well, OP, even though we got the shot, I think my earlier post was helpful because there are those who might also have concerns about allergic reactions. Therefore, my post was intended to give them info that might help them with their decision. Going in with an epi in my purse (although, not needed, thank goodness) was a plan that others might want to use.

My post was legit, solid, primary source information that shared how I addressed concerns over allergic reactions and how the shot caused absolutely no problems.

You must be having your own specific concerns about getting the vaccine. Why not share them?

I remain,
Helpful, One-Shot-Down, One-To-Go Boomer

That would make a great signature!!!

[Karadad]

These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!

[Bjeanj]

The woman across the street is 88, and she has not gotten hers yet. She is concerned because she’s been ill, and had heard of some of the side effects.

[Byte1]

These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!

Why do you say that? Are you saying that the certifying officials signed off on these because the gov ordered them? You do know that this procedure has been in the testing stages for several years, right? The only difference is that it was targeted to this particular virus. Before this, it was targeted to SARs-2, I think. At any rate, if you read any of the papers on it, you will see that since there is absolutely NO virus material involved in it's creation, there is little to fear. If by "fully vetted" you mean they have not been in trial for COVID for a dozen years, you are correct. Of course there will be plenty that will not get the shot. Hey, if not for concerns for my spouse, I wouldn't. I do not fear catching the virus, other than the idea of my spouse catching it due to my disregard. I haven't had the flu and I do not get the flu shot, but my spouse does get the flu shot. I got my COVID inoculation, but I may not get it next year, if they suggest it.

It all depends on how safe you feel you are when out and about. Like a famous person once sagely said "are you feeling lucky, punk?" If you are concerned about what it might do to a frail person, then I would suggest seeking advice from a professional, not a social forum. It may very well be that one will have to weigh the options. Take a slim chance of a negative reaction from the shot, or take a chance at a DEADLY reaction from catching the demon virus.

[La lamy]

I'm not getting it. Various reasons: I'm still considerably young at 56, I've had averse reaction to flu shot, I'm not sure it will be effective for long or for variants.

[Byte1]

The woman across the street is 88, and she has not gotten hers yet. She is concerned because she’s been ill, and had heard of some of the side effects.

Has she consulted her physician?

[Topspinmo]

This post is for those NOT getting the vaccine. Please do not respond u are getting it. I would like to speak to those who are NOT GETTING IT TK U


Well, I’m not getting it cause I can’t get it. Few slots with thousands applying. Maybe if CDC ever get off the A## and approves j and j Some of us may have change to get the shot. Until then, don’t hold you breath.

[Bjeanj]

Has she consulted her physician?

Yes.

[asianthree]

At this time NO.. worked for 5 months exposed 50-60 hours a week, no symptoms, never tested +, many hours without proper PPE....Before vaccine was offered, 2 epidemiologist, 3 docs, 2 pharmacists, already had me on the NO SHOT list.

All have dealt with me on a personal level on an anaphylactic issue. All said even with all the epi in house, none of them would inject me. They have worked with me over 20 years, and would always abide by their oath of “do no harm”.

[stanley]

Nope. For reasons that will start an argument and get this thread shut down PDQ, I will keep my personal choice to myself.

[Kenswing]

Nope. For reasons that will start an argument and get this thread shut down PDQ, I will keep my personal choice to myself.
Yep.. It's nobody's business but mine what the reason is if I do or don't get the shot.

[JoMar]

Well, I’m not getting it cause I can’t get it. Few slots with thousands applying. Maybe if CDC ever get off the A## and approves j and j Some of us may have change to get the shot. Until then, don’t hold you breath.

Keep looking, we have had three opportunities in the last 3 weeks, Publix, SafeStart and CDR Health. Shot was with CDR. Now more opportunities available at WinnDixie, Walmart, Sam's.....may need to drive depending on the store but there are more outlets.

[Topspinmo]

When by southern oaks tents at noon today, looked like they was shut down due to the mud pit that was created, don’t tell me finely get and appointment and canceled due to field mud pit? That’s not going to dry up for awhile?

[mlmarr1]

Choice is mine to say no..

[toeser]

Well, I’m not getting it cause I can’t get it. Few slots with thousands applying. Maybe if CDC ever get off the A## and approves j and j Some of us may have change to get the shot. Until then, don’t hold you breath.

The FDA is a pathetically bureaucratic and slow agency. They took an extra 10 days to approve Pfizer's vaccine out of pure bureaucracy at a time when we desperately needed to start vaccinations.

They have not approved AstraZenaca's vaccine even though the U.K. and all of continental Europe have. AZ made an error in their testing procedure that returned BETTER than expected results. AZ submitted all the data but the FDA wants them to rerun the whole testing process which takes months. The FDA is not our friend.

[tsmall22204]

Not getting the vaccine is a personal choice. You do not have to explain your decision. Please don't try to talk others out of their decision to get the vaccine.

[wachteldepew]

We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

[donassaid]

My wife and I will not get an experimental vaccine that has sickened thousands and killed dozens more including a young, healthy doctor in Florida 3 weeks after he had the shot. The CDC itself has stated that the vaccine will NOT keep you from getting Covid. So why anyone would take this shot to prevent a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate for people our age (70's) is a mystery to me. And I have had the virus.

[Byte1]

We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

The choice is yours. However, if the reason is how fast they came up with the vaccine, you might want to do a bit more research to see if you are really working with valid information. The studies I have read on the vaccine indicate that they have been working on this "new" process for several years, particularly targeting Mers and SARS. When COVID became the issue, they tested the idea with COVID targeted. It is amazing how well the tests results have been. A typical flu vaccine is between 30-40% efficient. These tests are easily superior to the flu serums. I am not an expert and I do NOT receive the flu shot, ever. I have never had the flu and realize that it is just a matter of time before it hits me, IF I am susceptible to infection and not just immune. Like you, I have made my choice. I did get my COVID shot because I am NOT going to be responsible to my children for infecting their mother with a potentially deadly illness. Just my take on this. If I thought there was any danger of getting this vaccine, I would not even consider experimenting with a new product like this. However, I have had to be inoculated with a ton of vaccinations in order to travel overseas, which I would not normally even consider, so this is a no brainer.

[Byte1]

My wife and I will not get an experimental vaccine that has sickened thousands and killed dozens more including a young, healthy doctor in Florida 3 weeks after he had the shot. The CDC itself has stated that the vaccine will NOT keep you from getting Covid. So why anyone would take this shot to prevent a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate for people our age (70's) is a mystery to me. And I have had the virus.

Like I already said in the other post, it is your choice. Personally, I am not ready to explain to my children how I neglected to protect my spouse, just because I THOUGHT the vaccine might be too young to be any good.
In my opinion, from what you are saying, you are basing your possibly life threatening move on inaccurate information. There is no proof that this doctor that passed, died because of the vaccination. His case is very unusual. Maybe the CDC said that they cannot guarantee that you wont' get sick, but they do say that with the vaccination, you have a better chance of surviving the illness if infected. I have read other studies that indicate that this is one of the best vaccine builds in use today. I have also read an Israeli study that indicates that the vaccines may (it's still early) prevent you from passing/carrying the virus to other people.
It is your decision, but make sure you are working with ALL the available information. Like I said, I am not going to tell my children that I made the mistake of convincing my spouse NOT to get the vaccination and because of that, she is no longer around for them.

[Alaska Butch]

I was a medic in the Army. I worked for a time at the military medical school “USUHS”. We studied different things in the human performance lab. To maintain certifications for our Docs and other folks with certain certifications we had regularly scheduled speakers. The Dr in this video was one of the speakers I heard at a lecture back at the school. Her testimony here is concerning. Is conspiracy theoryesque? Yes. But I am healthy, 62 and see no reason to rush it.
Dr Lee Merrit Interview - YouTube (https://youtu.be/3mPIomjWwd4)

[allenpegg1@gmail.com]

My opinion exactly. Why take a vaccine that's 94% effective against a virus that's has a 99% survival rate? Of all the people I know, including family, that have gotten the WuhanChineseCoronaVirus, none have died. Plus, how can the FLU numbers be down 98% this year? Meaning, how many deaths attributed to COVID are the result of the FLU? If the CDC/FEDs wasn't providing $$$ against COVID, there'd be less COVID??? THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!

[Bill14564]

My wife and I will not get an experimental vaccine that has sickened thousands and killed dozens more including a young, healthy doctor in Florida 3 weeks after he had the shot. The CDC itself has stated that the vaccine will NOT keep you from getting Covid. So why anyone would take this shot to prevent a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate for people our age (70's) is a mystery to me. And I have had the virus.

Where do you get these numbers???

The survival rate for the 65-74 group is about 94% and for the 75-84 group it drops to 85%. The survival rate for the flu is something like 99.998%.

Avoid the shot for whatever reason you have but stop spreading bad information that could get someone else killed.

[riamd1954]

That’s your choice to get it has it’s other’s choice not to!! Why do you care??

[Cobullymom]

I'm not getting it. Various reasons: I'm still considerably young at 56, I've had averse reaction to flu shot, I'm not sure it will be effective for long or for variants.
I’m right there with you, I have been a nurse for 30 years and I don’t take vaccines. I believe in keeping your own immune system strong and let it do it’s job and so far It’s not failed me. And yes I’ve been closely exposed to Covid a couple of times and no I haven’t gotten it. I’ve also had my antibodies tested twice and nothing. So you can all feel free to have mine.

[Cobullymom]

Not getting the vaccine is a personal choice. You do not have to explain your decision. Please don't try to talk others out of their decision to get the vaccine.
I haven’t heard on person harping on anyone as to not getting the shot, just giving their reasons why they don’t want one. But I sure have seen and heard plenty of lectures for those self appointed experts as to why I should get one, so I’m very confused as to your comment...

[JoannMH]

I am a healthy women in my 60's without any health issues... that I am aware of. I probably would survive COVID. However my concern is for the people in my life who may not be so healthy. I would be devastated if I passed COVID on to them. So I am getting the vaccine for them. I know that scientists are not certain if vaccinated people can still carry the virus in their nose......but I am not going to take the chance. This vaccine is for the people I care about.

[Florida17]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision? not old enough, not tested long enough, reactions to other vaccines, only 98.5% of death...

[Tmarkwald]

You nailed it. This is far from being an experimental vaccine. This was heavily tested 10 years ago as a vaccine for both MERS and SARS. The outbreak died our so the vaccine was only given to about 100 000 people I think. Covid-19 is SARS as well, although a different variant. That's why it was tweaked and tested so fast. Also, there has not been a single case of anyone dying from the vaccine, even though a very small handful do get some allergic reactions.

[Tmarkwald]

These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!

I think 10 year of testing and 100,000 people as the SARS vaccine is pretty conclusive.

[Byte1]

not old enough, not tested long enough, reactions to other vaccines, only 98.5% of death...

So, considering the fact that this mRNA technology has been tested over a decade, you feel that it's not been tested long enough, and it is not old enough? Interesting. How long a period of time would you set as the bar to be overcome?

[Altavia]

At this time NO.. worked for 5 months exposed 50-60 hours a week, no symptoms, never tested +, many hours without proper PPE....Before vaccine was offered, 2 epidemiologist, 3 docs, 2 pharmacists, already had me on the NO SHOT list.

All have dealt with me on a personal level on an anaphylactic issue. All said even with all the epi in house, none of them would inject me. They have worked with me over 20 years, and would always abide by their oath of “do no harm”.

Where do you work?

[JimmyDebbie]

I’m right there with you, I have been a nurse for 30 years and I don’t take vaccines. I believe in keeping your own immune system strong and let it do it’s job and so far It’s not failed me. And yes I’ve been closely exposed to Covid a couple of times and no I haven’t gotten it. I’ve also had my antibodies tested twice and nothing. So you can all feel free to have mine.

I’m a retired nurse and agree with the poster above. I’ve taken the flu vaccine for about 15 years but only because it was a requirement of my employer. God gave us an immune system to fight off infections and viruses and we are responsible for maintaining it. I have had Covid in October (meaning my immune system had been weakened) and I survived. I’ve had the flu before and the flu was worse for me. I was tested for Covid antibodies this past week and still have them. But, even if I didn’t have them, I would still choose to not take the vaccine. I’ll take my chances of survival again over taking a vaccine that I don’t currently trust. It was developed quickly when we can’t even develop a vaccine for the common cold, which is also a form of a coronavirus. I believe Covid is real and not a hoax, but less dangerous to most of us than the media is making it out to be. It is being used for control of people and generating unwarranted fear.

[kimgarwel12@gmail.com]

My husband refuses to get the vaccine, but he also won't get a flu shot or any other vaccine (ie, shingles, pneumonia etc). After being in the military and having to get shots weekly while in Korea, not by his choice, now that he can refuse them, he does. He doesn't feel you can trust that the government doesn't have a hand in these vaccines, doesn't trust their motives. Fortunately, he rarely gets sick, has never had the flu or pneumonia or shingles, etc. I believe in vaccines and their efficacy, so I'm getting it because when I DO get sick, it goes straight to my lungs every. time!!

[banjobob]

I am 80 years old in excellent health (according to my Doc.). Vitals again according my Doc. are of a much younger man no health issues other than arthritis in one knee, eat well exercise regularly and am very active . I never have had the flu or never catch colds, only have occasionally gotten a sore throat. Do I need the vaccine I think others with issues should get it before me , so I may not get .

[merrymini]

Wrong. People have died from the vaccine.
It takes about 5 to 7 years for full trials before a vaccine is given to the public.
If 3 months of trials is enough, why not do that for all vaccines?
Money is the reason for so much covid.
Media is gleeful at scaring the hell out of you.
Control of people who will buckle under out of fright.
I am not getting the vaccine but do not care if anyone else does.
If you are frightened, lock yourself in the closet for the rest if your life. 100% effective. Better than the vaccine.

[Singerlady]

I'm not getting it. Various reasons: I'm still considerably young at 56, I've had averse reaction to flu shot, I'm not sure it will be effective for long or for variants.

You could consult your doctor.....

[Singerlady]

Well, I’m not getting it cause I can’t get it. Few slots with thousands applying. Maybe if CDC ever get off the A## and approves j and j Some of us may have change to get the shot. Until then, don’t hold you breath.

Unfortunately, it’s like a job. You have to work on it every day, read about it everyday and sign up on multiple sites. It can and will happen if you do this.

[Singerlady]

Yep.. It's nobody's business but mine what the reason is if I do or don't get the shot.
Then, why did you respond?

[PugMom]

i am not getting one because i don't want or need it. i also never get flu shots or vaccine du jour. whoever wants my dose can have @ it.

[Singerlady]

We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

Misinformation...this is not an ‘answer’ to COVID. It’s only (!) going to reduce the severity of symptoms. I’ll take that!

[Nascar88]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

I replied with a link to a video posted on the American Front Line Doctors Website and the media super power blocked my post. I hope you people can see what is going on to control our thinking on all subjects.

I encourage to search for the video on the Front Line Doctors and watch the whole thing. It is very educational and you will not get this information on the State Cntrld M S Media.

[Heytubes]

Not gunna get it. This is the same government that said Agent Orange would save lives. Yes it did at the time, but daily now our buds are dropping from its after effects. I’ll just keep washing my hands and stay vigilant about getting to close to others.

[Tadpole]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

According to the government... If I get vaccinated: 💉💉💉

1.- Can I stop wearing the mask?
Government Response - No

2.- Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars etc and everyone work normally?
Government Response - No

3.- Will I be resistant to covid?
Government Response - Maybe, but we don't know exactly, it probably won't stop you getting it

4.- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore?
Government Response - No you can still pass it on, possibly, nobody knows.

5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally?
Government Response - No

6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?
Government Response - No

7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?
Government Response - No

8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other?
Government Response - No

9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened normally thanks to vaccines?
Government Response - No

10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather?
Government Response - No

11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination?
Government Response - The virus won't kill you.

12.- Are you sure it won't kill me?
Government Response - No

13.- If statistically the virus won't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?"
Government Response - To protect others.

14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them?
Government Response - No

So to summarise, the Covid19 vaccine...

Does not give immunity.
Does not eliminate the virus.
Does not prevent death.
Does not guarantee you won’t get it.
Does not prevent you from getting it.
Does not stop you passing it on
Does not eliminate the need for travel bans.
Does not eliminate the need for business closures.
Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns.
Does not eliminate the need for masking.

So...what the heck is it actually doing? 🤦🏼*♂️🤷🏼*♂️

[PugMom]

Thank you!

[Byte1]

I don't care whether you get the vaccination or not. No skin off my back. I just hate to see the reasoning being due to pure ignorance. If you are scared, OK and I understand. Fear is a powerful thing. I have not allowed the pandemic to stop me for getting out and about, but I have been protective of my wife. I refuse to allow this virus to rule my life so I went along with my wife and got my shot when she got hers. Still waiting for the second shot. I don't get the flu and I do not get the flu shot. I rarely catch a cold and if I do/did it lasts about three days max. Although, I can't remember having a cold in the last fifteen years or so. I am healthy for my age. If I thought the vaccination was dangerous, I would not have gotten it. As far as I am concerned, and with the reading I have done, this vaccination is way less dangerous and way more effective than the flu shot. My opinion.
It's great that some of us believe we are immune to illness, especially when there is no evidence of being in contact with the infected. Unlike some of the mask wearers, I do not believe that everyone I meet is infected with the demon virus. But, I go along with wearing a mask because it does have some filtering aspects and because it makes others feel more comfortable.

I have had two family members that have died recently, both testing positive for COVID. Did they die because of COVID or WITH Covid? Who knows? On the other hand, I know of at least a dozen or more that have survived the virus, including my kids and some of my grandkids. Some shrugged it off with hardly a symptom, but tested positive. Some suffered harshly as if they had a serious flu. My decision was not based on the CDC, as I do not trust that political organization. My decision to get the vaccination was based on reading many different studies and expert opinions. If further down the line, I develop some residue effects from the serum, so be it. Life is finite, no matter how well you take care of yourself. Everything you do from day to day is a gamble of some sort.
I have no problem with you all declining the vaccine. It just means that my children will be eligible faster.
Speaking of gambling, isn't it interesting that casinos are open but churches are closed in many places?

[Donvan]

21% of people who get the vaccine have serious side effects.the vaccine was not tested on animals. Stage one and two safety test was not done. Personally have had two major side effects from drugs. Not worth the risk when mortality is lower then the normal flu. Besides I have already had it.

[Bucco]

21% of people who get the vaccine have serious side effects.the vaccine was not tested on animals. Stage one and two safety test was not done. Personally have had two major side effects from drugs. Not worth the risk when mortality is lower then the normal flu. Besides I have already had it.

The 21% number is another of those "Facebook" videos that have been debunked.

Researcher’s speech used to mislead about Covid-19 vaccine safety | Fact Check (https://factcheck.afp.com/researchers-speech-used-mislead-about-covid-19-vaccine-safety)

[Byte1]

21% of people who get the vaccine have serious side effects.the vaccine was not tested on animals. Stage one and two safety test was not done. Personally have had two major side effects from drugs. Not worth the risk when mortality is lower then the normal flu. Besides I have already had it.

"Serious" is up for interpretation. Most of the "side effects" are indicators that the vaccine is working by causing the body to produce antibodies and the immune process. Just my opinion, and I may be wrong but it seems to me that "side effects" are way better than being dead. Then again, some folks complain so much that perhaps they do not see it my way.

Added: Last night, there was a guy on the news that has had the virus twice. The second time was worst than the first time. Don't think that just because you have had it, you won't catch it again. Besides, they are saying that the anti-bodies you create are only good for about two to three months after infection.

[kendi]

I'm not old enough to get it yet which is okay in my opinion because I can see how the effects play our for others while I'm waiting. I am undecided whether to get it or not. My sister in law who is my age received it at her work and she now has problems with short term memory.

[Byte1]

I'm not old enough to get it yet which is okay in my opinion because I can see how the effects play our for others while I'm waiting. I am undecided whether to get it or not. My sister in law who is my age received it at her work and she now has problems with short term memory.[

Bet that is a first.

[Bill14564]

21% of people who get the vaccine have serious side effects.the vaccine was not tested on animals. Stage one and two safety test was not done. Personally have had two major side effects from drugs. Not worth the risk when mortality is lower then the normal flu. Besides I have already had it.

The 21% number is another of those "Facebook" videos that have been debunked.

Researcher’s speech used to mislead about Covid-19 vaccine safety | Fact Check (https://factcheck.afp.com/researchers-speech-used-mislead-about-covid-19-vaccine-safety)

And the mortality rate of Covid is 1,000 times greater than the flu for 50 year olds and 15,000 times greater than the flu for 75 year olds.

Again, skip the vaccine for whatever reason you have but stop spreading dangerous misinformation!

[camaguey48]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?
I am not. I don't trust this government.

[jimbo2012]

175 million have had at least one shot world wide
Since vaccine distribution began in the U.S. on Dec. 14, more than 48 million doses have been administered, reaching 10.8% of the total U.S. population, according to federal data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The U.S. is currently administering over 1.6 million shots a day.

How many died from shot with conclusive evidence?

[Byte1]

I am not. I don't trust this government.

Other than paying for it, what do you think that gov. has to do with the vaccine?

[Manatee]

Misinformation is a waste of time at best. At worst it may kill ya.

Serious reactions have been Extremely Low - please don’t post inaccurate info here. The safety profile is pretty darn good - Moderna is well under one percent for serious adverse Reactions, and most of those were in people with previous vaccine issues.

It’s your choice.
Base it on scientific facts.

Long Haul Covid -
Let’s not ignore that.

10 percent of people who get Covid get long haul - that is
Daily headaches, lung damage, shortness breath, brain fog, nausea....... the docs can’t cure it and aren’t sure if it will ever go away.

I know 2 formerly healthy people who have long haul Covid. Both are younger. Long haul will be one of our biggest chronic health problem for years to come.

[jimbo2012]

Long haul

You want to quote your source?

I found those are side effects of those that had the virus not the vaccine


Fake news IMO

Misinformation is a waste of time at best. At worst it may kill ya.

Serious reactions have been Extremely Low - please don’t post inaccurate info here. The safety profile is pretty darn good - Moderna is well under one percent for serious adverse Reactions, and most of those were in people with previous vaccine issues.

It’s your choice.
Base it on scientific facts.

Long Haul Covid -
Let’s not ignore that.

10 percent of people who get Covid get long haul - that is
Daily headaches, lung damage, shortness breath, brain fog, nausea....... the docs can’t cure it and aren’t sure if it will ever go away.

I know 2 formerly healthy people who have long haul Covid. Both are younger. Long haul will be one of our biggest chronic health problem for years to come.

[NJSonja]

I have done extensive reading and I have 2 nerve issues as it is...trigeminal neuralgia and burning mouth syndrome plus an autoimmune issue. Even if my doctor says it's perfectly safe, I am the one having to live with the consequences as per my burning mouth syndrome which a dentist managed to do. I am 64. I know a woman who got a flu shot 6 years ago and still has Bell's Palsy from it. I know another woman who got the shingles vaccine and nearly died. For now, it's a no from me. Sonja

[Barborv]

A good handful of my younge aquiances(25-40) are not getting it as of now, even though they can because we are in a school. They either don't trust it or worry that it can cause infertility. Some say it's too new and the government really doesn't know all the answers, which is true. They have no idea if and how long this round of vaccine will last. Will we need it every year, etc? I personally was on the fence at first but when most of my colleagues were signing up I quickly changed my mind. I realized there can be long term health concerns after, if you do get Covid and the real scare is you can die from it .

[cherylncliff]

These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!


I have over 30 years in pharmaceutical research, development and manufacture as well as regulatory submissions and approvals and your statement is simply not true. For Pfizer and Moderna (basically the same), over 60,000 participants were part of the phase 2/3 study after successfully completing the phase 1 protocols. That is much larger than normal for phase 2/3. Since then, millions of people around the world have received the vaccine with very low rate of adverse events. The FDA and several other regulatory agencies have reviewed the safety data and efficacy data and have approved these drugs for use.

You may have other reasons for not getting vaccinated but to spread false and misleading information borders on criminal.

[BlueHeronFan]

I will not get the Physer or Moterna vaccine because calling these "vaccines" when they are actually proteins is concerning. The storage restrictions are dangerous as far as I'm concerned. I have listened to Dr info much better than that idiot Faucci. I might get the Johnson & Johnson vaccine when available as it is an actual vaccine and storage is like the flu vaccine. As of now, NO.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Last night on network news they quoted CDC as saying that there were 66 serious allergic reactions to the shots of course I don’t listen to the real news that comes from the guy reporting from the cellar of his mother’s house so I could be wrong

[jgmroc67]

This is a personal choice, but I believe that people with a history or family history of inflammatory and Autoimmune diseases (which essentially are an overreaction of your immune system ....Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, ALS) should seriously consider waiting. The m- RNA sets up the immune response in the body but it is synthetic and it is unknown how long it will take to degrade or dissipate .....possibly setting up an on-going cycle of antibody- immune system response... and thereby triggering a tendency you already carry. I personally have a strong line of ALS in my family history and will wait.

[Manatee]

Thank you.

Science.Not Facebook “facts”

I have over 30 years in pharmaceutical research, development and manufacture as well as regulatory submissions and approvals and your statement is simply not true. For Pfizer and Moderna (basically the same), over 60,000 participants were part of the phase 2/3 study after successfully completing the phase 1 protocols. That is much larger than normal for phase 2/3. Since then, millions of people around the world have received the vaccine with very low rate of adverse events. The FDA and several other regulatory agencies have reviewed the safety data and efficacy data and have approved these drugs for use.

You may have other reasons for not getting vaccinated but to spread false and misleading information borders on criminal.

[Manatee]

If you haven’t learned about long haul Covid, you may want to look into it.

Very simple.

Google long haul Covid. The first 2 pages come up with very reputable websites -

Johns Hopkins, NIH, and many scientific, research based sources.
It’s real. You can ignore it. At your peril.



Long haul

You want to quote your source?

I found those are side effects of those that had the virus not the vaccine


Fake news IMO

[Bucco]

Thank you.

Science.Not Facebook “facts”

Yes.

It is simply incredible the people who will post what they know is not a reliable source, but make snide comments about those who are speaking truth, because of P reason. These are the brainwashed, and telling lies while ignorantly ignoring truth and facts is what makes our once great country a laughing stock.

What motivates people to post on here the newest “theories” supported by nobody, and demean those who are trying their best to get out the truth ?

[oneclickplus]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

Simple enough: I choose not to. It's personal choice to protect myself and my loved ones from potential harm. Obviously, I judge the potential harm from the shot (not vaccine) to be much worse than any COVID virus. I have protection. It's called an immune system. I got it from God.

Note that this is not a decision based on research to decide if the shot (not vaccine) is safe or not; effective or not. It has nothing to do with the safety or effectiveness of the shot (not vaccine).

Why do some people choose not to go sky diving? It's been proven quite safe. Yet, many will refuse to do it. Understand?

Also, if there is some argument about me being responsible for those around me and that's why I should get the shot (not vaccine) ... my RIGHT to not get the shot (not vaccine) is spelled out in the same paragraph in the constitution where a woman has a right to abortion. If you're not familiar with it, go look it up. And while some will say that my choice puts my fellow man at risk, I would point out that a woman's choice is absolutely FATAL to another human being.

Although I have given you an answer, the beauty of freedom in the USA is that I don't need a reason. PERIOD.

You asked. I answered. Enough said.

[OhioBuckeye]

This post is for those NOT getting the vaccine. Please do not respond u are getting it. I would like to speak to those who are NOT GETTING IT TK U

Here we go! Suppose to get 2nd shot Thur. got canceled until yesterday (Sat) canceled until Feb. 27th, we’re going on vacation on Feb. 20th until Mar. 20th. Got first shot on Jan. 21st it will be 9 or 10 weeks before I can get 2nd shot. So they’re telling me I have to start over & get another first shot again, so I thought BS. Not getting a bunch of serum pumped into me. Until someone tells us it’s safe.

[Cobullymom]

Other than paying for it, what do you think that gov. has to do with the vaccine?
Wow don’t wear yourself out...insert eye roll multiple times..

[Cobullymom]

Thank you...

[Cobullymom]

Simple enough: I choose not to. It's personal choice to protect myself and my loved ones from potential harm. Obviously, I judge the potential harm from the shot (not vaccine) to be much worse than any COVID virus. I have protection. It's called an immune system. I got it from God.

Note that this is not a decision based on research to decide if the shot (not vaccine) is safe or not; effective or not. It has nothing to do with the safety or effectiveness of the shot (not vaccine).

Why do some people choose not to go sky diving? It's been proven quite safe. Yet, many will refuse to do it. Understand?

Also, if there is some argument about me being responsible for those around me and that's why I should get the shot (not vaccine) ... my RIGHT to not get the shot (not vaccine) is spelled out in the same paragraph in the constitution where a woman has a right to abortion. If you're not familiar with it, go look it up. And while some will say that my choice puts my fellow man at risk, I would point out that a woman's choice is absolutely FATAL to another human being.

Although I have given you an answer, the beauty of freedom in the USA is that I don't need a reason. PERIOD.

You asked. I answered. Enough said.
Thank you!

[jimjamuser]

I have never been so ready to get a shot in my entire life. (a shot in the arm that is)

We have had our first one. (Moderna) We each had sore arms for a day, but that was it.

I went with an epi-pen in my purse. Mr. Boomer has been known to have allergic reactions to certain antibiotics and once to bees, years ago. I knew they would have epi at the site, and we do not normally carry epi, and antibiotics and bee reactions have not been reported as potential issues, but I wanted to be ready anyway so I had him get one for the occasion. It was not needed. (I didn’t really think it would be, but I was in just-in-case mode.) When you fill out the form and report a history of allergic reactions, they have you wait half an hour instead of 15 minutes. He was fine — absolutely fine.

Does having just one shot so far mean that Bill Gates can track me only half the time?
The comment about Bill Gates was truly sharp-witted. Kudos!

[Hancie2]

Your fortunate..I have two friends who have died, both under 65!

[Tmarkwald]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

I like to leave the villages and travel...

Vaccination passports could be required as soon as the summer | 10tv.com (https://www.10tv.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/vaccination-passports-could-be-required-as-soon-as-the-summer/65-446c5f24-c808-42c0-9f8d-df197e079c74?fbclid=IwAR3zDJXp3Roo0EhFrjv3gbC3Xgkm n7q_F2sPh2QUL77LSOigacelR4yoQv0)

[Tmarkwald]

If you haven’t learned about long haul Covid, you may want to look into it.

Very simple.

Google long haul Covid. The first 2 pages come up with very reputable websites -

Johns Hopkins, NIH, and many scientific, research based sources.
It’s real. You can ignore it. At your peril.

Correct - the long term effects of Covid itself are far worse than any reported effect from the vaccine. I had Covid in January last year - confirmed by the antibody tests multiple times.

Regardless, I will definately get the vaccine.

I have a long term Covid effect that may never go away -a rare one, but I am not the only one. I smell exhaust fumes continuously. An annoyance, but after a year of smelling it I've learned to ignore that.

[NewRealms]

Vaccines are used for diseases that have no treatment and the covid has a very successful treatment. In an Indonesian study people who ended up in a hospital were universally deficient in Vitamin D. So, I keep my immune system fortified with D, Zinc, C, and quercetin. I stay away from people hacking and coughing and don't go out if I feel something coming on... which I haven't in over a year. Oh, and I don't bother with a mask. They are useless for disease control, but great for mind control.
I'm more concerned with an adverse reaction to a rushed vaccine than I am in getting the bug.

[Byte1]

I am not. I don't trust this government.

I am because I don't trust the government.

[Byte1]

I will not get the Physer or Moterna vaccine because calling these "vaccines" when they are actually proteins is concerning. The storage restrictions are dangerous as far as I'm concerned. I have listened to Dr info much better than that idiot Faucci. I might get the Johnson & Johnson vaccine when available as it is an actual vaccine and storage is like the flu vaccine. As of now, NO.

Ha, ha, ha....sorry but I had to laugh. No offense meant. I keep thinking about the J&J vaccine and how it is made from monkey poop. They infect a monkey and then take it's poop and create the vaccine. :a20::yuck::eek:

[Hackercraft]

Not getting it. Too many possible bad outcomes from an experimental substance with no recourse against the drugs maker.

[Bbgranny1]

I was a medic in the Army. I worked for a time at the military medical school “USUHS”. We studied different things in the human performance lab. To maintain certifications for our Docs and other folks with certain certifications we had regularly scheduled speakers. The Dr in this video was one of the speakers I heard at a lecture back at the school. Her testimony here is concerning. Is conspiracy theoryesque? Yes. But I am healthy, 62 and see no reason to rush it.
Dr Lee Merrit Interview - YouTube (https://youtu.be/3mPIomjWwd4)

The information is scary enough to make one think long and hard about getting the vaccine.

[coffeebean]

I replied with a link to a video posted on the American Front Line Doctors Website and the media super power blocked my post. I hope you people can see what is going on to control our thinking on all subjects.

I encourage to search for the video on the Front Line Doctors and watch the whole thing. It is very educational and you will not get this information on the State Cntrld M S Media.

How about this video?
Vaccine side effects are actually a good thing - YouTube (https://youtu.be/F6NKbQzo4aE)

[coffeebean]

According to the government... If I get vaccinated: 💉💉💉

1.- Can I stop wearing the mask?
Government Response - No

2.- Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars etc and everyone work normally?
Government Response - No

3.- Will I be resistant to covid?
Government Response - Maybe, but we don't know exactly, it probably won't stop you getting it

4.- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore?
Government Response - No you can still pass it on, possibly, nobody knows.

5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally?
Government Response - No

6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?
Government Response - No

7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?
Government Response - No

8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other?
Government Response - No

9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened normally thanks to vaccines?
Government Response - No

10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather?
Government Response - No

11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination?
Government Response - The virus won't kill you.

12.- Are you sure it won't kill me?
Government Response - No

13.- If statistically the virus won't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?"
Government Response - To protect others.

14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them?
Government Response - No

So to summarise, the Covid19 vaccine...

Does not give immunity.
Does not eliminate the virus.
Does not prevent death.
Does not guarantee you won’t get it.
Does not prevent you from getting it.
Does not stop you passing it on
Does not eliminate the need for travel bans.
Does not eliminate the need for business closures.
Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns.
Does not eliminate the need for masking.

So...what the heck is it actually doing? 🤦🏼*♂️🤷🏼*♂️

This sounds like a comedy routine. Who's on first? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[coffeebean]

21% of people who get the vaccine have serious side effects.the vaccine was not tested on animals. Stage one and two safety test was not done. Personally have had two major side effects from drugs. Not worth the risk when mortality is lower then the normal flu. Besides I have already had it.

Honestly? Where did you get that info?

[coffeebean]

I'm not old enough to get it yet which is okay in my opinion because I can see how the effects play our for others while I'm waiting. I am undecided whether to get it or not. My sister in law who is my age received it at her work and she now has problems with short term memory.

Which vaccine did your sister in law get?

[graciegirl]

We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

Oh I have to answer this one. Keep in mind I am not a medical person but the arrival of our infant daughter with severe congenital heart abnormality and other health issues got me very involved in educating myself about the medical community . Since then, I have seriously sought the finest health experiences for her and tried to protect her best I could for 55 years.

To your question;
How could they come up with a "cure" for a virus they know very little about in less than a year?Flu and cancer have been around forever and they can't cure them, but miraculously have an answer to Covid.

They knew quite a bit about the other kinds of Corona Viruses and could start with that knowledge to tailor the vaccine to this one. It had ENORMOUS amount of money and effort thrown at it from all over this entire planet because scientists could see that it was a very serious issue indeed. Cancer is not just one illness but many different ones and they have a vaccine just recently released for the Human Papilloma Virus that is the cause of Cervical Cancer. It is given to young teens of both gender to prevent that form of Cancer now, just in the last few years. The Vaccine is not a cure for Covid, but it allows our body to fight it off. It is a preventative measure. I am sure that you took the Polio Vaccine and one for Whooping Cough, Measles and Mumps. As an older adult I took the vaccination for Shingles and for two different kinds of pneumonia.

To the person who said it hadn't been tested enough....Well we shall soon see. Over a million seniors in Florida alone have now received the Covid-19 vaccination.

[dwhite5773]

when by southern oaks tents at noon today, looked like they was shut down due to the mud pit that was created, don’t tell me finely get and appointment and canceled due to field mud pit? That’s not going to dry up for awhile?
wtf??

[dwhite5773]

Honestly? Where did you get that info?
WTF?? And the side effects were from WHAT DRUG? ������

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

My wife and I will not get an experimental vaccine that has sickened thousands and killed dozens more including a young, healthy doctor in Florida 3 weeks after he had the shot. The CDC itself has stated that the vaccine will NOT keep you from getting Covid. So why anyone would take this shot to prevent a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate for people our age (70's) is a mystery to me. And I have had the virus.

I'm not sure where this information comes from, but Covid 19 has killed 484,000 Us citizens and many more have gotten seriously ill and have been left with lifelong permanent serious medical conditions.

Some people get mildly ill after receiving their second dose. This is a sign that their immune system is reacting. Most are over it in a few hours. I don't know if this is what you're referring to when you say thus vaccine has has sickened thousands but if that's the case, I'll accept a few deaths and a few thousand people getting mildly ill as opposed to 27.6 million getting ill and 484,000 deaths.

Also, I don't know where you get the 99.7% survival rate. In the US there have been 27. million cases and 484,000 deaths. Unless I'm doing my math correctly that is 18% of the people that get Covid die. That seems like an 83% survival rate. What that doesn't show is how many people have serious long term issues after surviving the virus.

A few thousand that get mildly sick, which may be a normal response and a few dozen deaths that may or may not have been related to the vaccine compared to an 18% chance of dying and a higher chance of being permanently ill is a not brainer for me.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

According to the government... If I get vaccinated: 💉💉💉

1.- Can I stop wearing the mask?
Government Response - No

2.- Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars etc and everyone work normally?
Government Response - No

3.- Will I be resistant to covid?
Government Response - Maybe, but we don't know exactly, it probably won't stop you getting it

4.- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore?
Government Response - No you can still pass it on, possibly, nobody knows.

5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally?
Government Response - No

6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?
Government Response - No

7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?
Government Response - No

8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other?
Government Response - No

9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened normally thanks to vaccines?
Government Response - No

10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather?
Government Response - No

11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination?
Government Response - The virus won't kill you.

12.- Are you sure it won't kill me?
Government Response - No

13.- If statistically the virus won't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?"
Government Response - To protect others.

14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them?
Government Response - No

So to summarise, the Covid19 vaccine...

Does not give immunity.
Does not eliminate the virus.
Does not prevent death.
Does not guarantee you won’t get it.
Does not prevent you from getting it.
Does not stop you passing it on
Does not eliminate the need for travel bans.
Does not eliminate the need for business closures.
Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns.
Does not eliminate the need for masking.

So...what the heck is it actually doing? 🤦🏼*♂️🤷🏼*♂️


Let me see if I can answer these question with a bit more detail.

1.- Can I stop wearing the mask?
We will be able to stop wearing masks once the majority of people in your state or in the country have been vaccinated.

2.- Can they reopen restaurants, pubs, bars etc and everyone work normally?
These will all open normally once the majority of people in your state or in the country have been vaccinated.

3.- Will I be resistant to covid?
This vaccine does not prevent you from contracting the virus. It prevents you body from allowing the virus to replicate itself which is what causes illness and death.

4.- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore?
The latest findings are that it's very unlikely that people who have the virus and are asymptomatic to transmit the virus to others.

5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally?
I believe that this is incorrect.
Who in the government has said this?

6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?
Same answers as one and two above. It won't be until basically everyone int he country that wants to be vaccinated gets vaccinated that we will be back to normal.

7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?
Why would you want to stop washing or disinfecting your hands? No one is forcing you to do it anyway.

8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other?
Again, I'd like to see a quote from someone in the government that has stated this.

9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened normally thanks to vaccines?
See my answers to questions #1 and #2.

10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather?
Same as #1 and #2

11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination?
Government Response - The virus won't kill you. Nor will you become seriously ill or need to be placed on a ventilator. You will also be free from worry about serious long term effect of the virus.

12.- Are you sure it won't kill me?
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been proven to be 95% affective. Efficacy rate for the seasonal influenza vaccine it between 40% and 60% and that has saved millions of lives.

13.- If statistically the virus won't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?"
Once everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated we will all be protected. For the few that refuse it, it's their lives and have every right to take that risk

14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them?
Correct, But what they're trying to do it create herd immunity. Once 300 million people are vaccinated, it's likely that the virus will die.

I hope that this is helpful

[Bill14564]

I'm not sure where this information comes from, but Covid 19 has killed 484,000 Us citizens and many more have gotten seriously ill and have been left with lifelong permanent serious medical conditions.

Some people get mildly ill after receiving their second dose. This is a sign that their immune system is reacting. Most are over it in a few hours. I don't know if this is what you're referring to when you say thus vaccine has has sickened thousands but if that's the case, I'll accept a few deaths and a few thousand people getting mildly ill as opposed to 27.6 million getting ill and 484,000 deaths.

Also, I don't know where you get the 99.7% survival rate. In the US there have been 27. million cases and 484,000 deaths. Unless I'm doing my math correctly that is 18% of the people that get Covid die. That seems like an 83% survival rate. What that doesn't show is how many people have serious long term issues after surviving the virus.

A few thousand that get mildly sick, which may be a normal response and a few dozen deaths that may or may not have been related to the vaccine compared to an 18% chance of dying and a higher chance of being permanently ill is a not brainer for me.

You are doing your math incorrectly. 484,000 out of 27.6M is 1.8% for a 98.2% survival rate.

I agree with your argument but the math needed help.

[lpkruege1]

Misinformation is a waste of time at best. At worst it may kill ya.

Serious reactions have been Extremely Low - please don’t post inaccurate info here. The safety profile is pretty darn good - Moderna is well under one percent for serious adverse Reactions, and most of those were in people with previous vaccine issues.

It’s your choice.
Base it on scientific facts.

Long Haul Covid -
Let’s not ignore that.

10 percent of people who get Covid get long haul - that is
Daily headaches, lung damage, shortness breath, brain fog, nausea....... the docs can’t cure it and aren’t sure if it will ever go away.

I know 2 formerly healthy people who have long haul Covid. Both are younger. Long haul will be one of our biggest chronic health problem for years to come.

It seems to me that's a lot more people that could get an extreme reaction than may die from the Covid 19 or am I missing something?

[coffeebean]

WTF?? And the side effects were from WHAT DRUG? ������

This is a response to one of my comments. I don't quite understand what you are getting at. Did you mean to reply to me?????

[dtennent]

The fact is no vaccine is 100% effective. Would you recommend that your grandchildren not be vaccinated against polio because it wasn't 100% effective? All the data presented has shown Pfizer and Moderna to be 95% effective. If everyone got either of these vaccinations, we would stop the pandemic. That isn't to say that we haven't experienced problems in rolling out the vaccination process. As a scientist for my entire life, I have a great respect for both the FDA and the CDC. if you read historical books on what life was like 100 years ago, you would appreciate their roles. (For example -- The Poison Squad by Deborah Blum - there was also a PBS show on this.)

[chet2020]

It seems to me that's a lot more people that could get an extreme reaction than may die from the Covid 19 or am I missing something?

You are missing something. To date, 50.6 million shots have been administered in the U.S. Where are all these horrible reactions and deaths from the vaccine you are claiming? Where are the hospitalizations? Where are the refrigerator trucks lined up at the vaccination sites? 485,000 have died from COVID-19, not to mention the people that will suffer for months or years from damaged hearts, brains, kidneys, lungs, and probably some stuff we don't even know about yet.

[big guy]

We did get the second shot. I ended up with a headache, burning eyes, achy all over, in 48 hours the symptoms were all gone. It was much better than getting the covid virus.

[Dotneko]

I'm not sure where this information comes from, but Covid 19 has killed 484,000 Us citizens and many more have gotten seriously ill and have been left with lifelong permanent serious medical conditions.

Some people get mildly ill after receiving their second dose. This is a sign that their immune system is reacting. Most are over it in a few hours. I don't know if this is what you're referring to when you say thus vaccine has has sickened thousands but if that's the case, I'll accept a few deaths and a few thousand people getting mildly ill as opposed to 27.6 million getting ill and 484,000 deaths.

Also, I don't know where you get the 99.7% survival rate. In the US there have been 27. million cases and 484,000 deaths. Unless I'm doing my math correctly that is 18% of the people that get Covid die. That seems like an 83% survival rate. What that doesn't show is how many people have serious long term issues after surviving the virus.

A few thousand that get mildly sick, which may be a normal response and a few dozen deaths that may or may not have been related to the vaccine compared to an 18% chance of dying and a higher chance of being permanently ill is a not brainer for me.

Ummm.10% of 27 million is 2.7 million. 1% is 270,000. 2% is 540,000. So, a little less than 2%.
Yeah, your math is off.

[Koapaka]

See statement above.....first, 100% correct post in this thread.

[JimJohnson]

The latest viral COVID-19 conspiracy theory boosted by QAnon falsely claims vaccines turn children gay or trans | Business Insider India (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.in/science/health/news/the-latest-viral-covid-19-conspiracy-theory-boosted-by-qanon-falsely-claims-vaccines-turn-children-gay-or-trans/amp_articleshow/80890120.cms)

[Love2Swim]

Where do you work?

Great question. I'd like to know so I can avoid going to the place.

[camaguey48]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?
Because it's a free country. I think?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We did get the second shot. I ended up with a headache, burning eyes, achy all over, in 48 hours the symptoms were all gone. It was much better than getting the covid virus.

Those side effects are actually because the vaccine is working.

[Manatee]

Thanks for sharing your personal long haul Covid symptom, I hope you get better.

I hope others here will learn how many people are suffering months after they “recover” from Covid. You may be healthy and young today, get mild Covid- and have migraines every day for months- with no cure. Google long haul Covid. Read reputable scientific info.

Be well and be safe everyone!



Correct - the long term effects of Covid itself are far worse than any reported effect from the vaccine. I had Covid in January last year - confirmed by the antibody tests multiple times.

Regardless, I will definately get the vaccine.

I have a long term Covid effect that may never go away -a rare one, but I am not the only one. I smell exhaust fumes continuously. An annoyance, but after a year of smelling it I've learned to ignore that.

[APovi]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

As I told my neighbors, "Of course you are free to say 'No!"
And asked "But you would sign 'No Medical Attention' - Right?"
It didn't work!
They decline a free shot, but expect 'the government' to spend hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars on their hospitalization!
Is that fair?
I say - "No shot = No respirator?"

[jswirs]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?
I believe my own immune system is much more reliable and trustworthy than any government issued vaccine. Aside from that, this may be just the beginning of government issued vaccines. I love my country, but I fear my government. No, I don't get the flue shot either.

[Swoop]

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[Bay Kid]

Got my parents their 1st shot but they wouldn't give me one, only 67, too young. Waiting on their 2nd.

Some days I want the shot, others not so sure. It is like everything this past year, who do you trust?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

You are doing your math incorrectly. 484,000 out of 27.6M is 1.8% for a 98.2% survival rate.

I agree with your argument but the math needed help.

Yup, missed a decimal point. Thanks for the correction.

[PugMom]

Honestly? Where did you get that info?

this is where i have concerns--i read the vax contains animal(mouse) rna-dna

[graciegirl]

I believe my own immune system is much more reliable and trustworthy than any government issued vaccine. Aside from that, this may be just the beginning of government issued vaccines. I love my country, but I fear my government. No, I don't get the flue shot either.

There is no E in flu.
There is no pee in Lake Sumter.
Your immune system is naked and powerless against a virus it has never met.
All across the world, nations that can afford it are giving out vaccines to stop this world killer.

I know of one person that felt just like you do. He died from Covid-19 last month.
It does not kill as many people under 65. Perhaps you are young?

We had our second shots last Wednesday. My arm was sore. I had a slight fever, I felt tired and even wobbly for a couple of days but now I know that my soldiers that fight disease are all lined up against this new killer.

Macrophage - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrophage)

[blueash]

this is where i have concerns--i read the vax contains animal(mouse) rna-dna

Oh please, I really want to see the link where you got that gem. If you really want to understand how the vaccine was created you can start by reading THIS WEBPAGE (https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/). And you can follow the links on that page to learn more.

It is posts like the one above that are spreading so much doubt and misinformation. Pile dozens of tiny lies and errors all throwing dirt at the vaccine and you end up with people saying "I've read so many bad things" You're reading garbage, or misunderstanding what you are reading. Please don't post unless you have "verified" the attack on the vaccine and provide links. A misinformed public is far worse than an uninformed public.

[blueash]

There is no E in flu.
There is no pee in Lake Sumter.


Oh, I thought that jswirs was telling us they don't get vaccines against fireplace ducts. I don't get those either as so far I've never been attacked by a flue.

[Byte1]

Got my parents their 1st shot but they wouldn't give me one, only 67, too young. Waiting on their 2nd.

Some days I want the shot, others not so sure. It is like everything this past year, who do you trust?

67 is too young to get the shot? All the sights set up in Florida are offering it to 65 and older. Where do you reside where they are not giving it to those over 65?

[Byte1]

this is where i have concerns--i read the vax contains animal(mouse) rna-dna

Haven't heard that one yet. However, I did read where the J&J vaccine is made from monkey poop. I think it is funny, but if the was the only vaccine available so that we can get back to normal, I would be in line for it.

I really don't care about those that do not wish to get the vaccination. Use any far fetched, imaginative excuse you wish, but at least be honest. If folks are young and they do not wish to get the vaccination, I figure that they are considering the odds that if they do become infected, they will survive. When seniors refuse a FREE vaccination for something so deadly, I figure that they have had a good life and consider themselves ready to pass on. They better be ready, because if they catch it I have no doubt that they will want their friends and family praying for them. Personally, I am prepared for the afterlife, but I am not yet ready to just give up on life quite yet. Some folks in my family still need me.

[Byte1]

Here we go! Suppose to get 2nd shot Thur. got canceled until yesterday (Sat) canceled until Feb. 27th, we’re going on vacation on Feb. 20th until Mar. 20th. Got first shot on Jan. 21st it will be 9 or 10 weeks before I can get 2nd shot. So they’re telling me I have to start over & get another first shot again, so I thought BS. Not getting a bunch of serum pumped into me. Until someone tells us it’s safe.

Ok, it's safe. Now you can get the shot?

[stan the man]

I really thought ex-school teachers would understand what was meant. 😀

[graciegirl]

Oh please, I really want to see the link where you got that gem. If you really want to understand how the vaccine was created you can start by reading THIS WEBPAGE (https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/). And you can follow the links on that page to learn more.

It is posts like the one above that are spreading so much doubt and misinformation. Pile dozens of tiny lies and errors all throwing dirt at the vaccine and you end up with people saying "I've read so many bad things" You're reading garbage, or misunderstanding what you are reading. Please don't post unless you have "verified" the attack on the vaccine and provide links. A misinformed public is far worse than an uninformed public.

Please listen to this man. He is a successful doctor, a pediatrician with stellar background and education.

I so agree about these enormous leaps into areas that have no basis whatsoever. Worrying about mouse DNA in Vaccine is really a stretch and by far not the worst conspiracy theory I have read.

I am NOT a person with credentials in medicine, but any of us can be educated if we stick to valid and reliable sources and avoid the talkers on Youtube.

[coffeebean]

Regarding the misinformation that there is mouse RNA in the mRNA vaccines, I found this not easy to understand information about molecular and cellular biology. Not being a biologist, alot of this means nothing to me but from what I gather from this is that mice were used as test subjects for the development of the mRNA vaccines. NOT that mice RNA is actually in these mRNA vaccines.

If anyone can actually determine that mice RNA is in these vaccines from this, feel free to explain where this article says that.......

Simultaneous Gene Editing by Injection of mRNAs Encoding Transcription Activator-Like Effector Nucleases into Mouse Zygotes (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3993595/)

[Byte1]

I'm not old enough to get it yet which is okay in my opinion because I can see how the effects play our for others while I'm waiting. I am undecided whether to get it or not. My sister in law who is my age received it at her work and she now has problems with short term memory.

Is she blonde? :)

[Sophie11]

Millions died in 1918 from a pandemic and in 1919 it was gone? No vaccines, medications, hand sanitizer back then. I am sure they wore masks but how did it just vanish?

[bobdeb]

So, why am I not getting the vaccine?

Well, I registered everywhere over a month ago, as I'm sure most of you have done as well.

Now it's too close to my necessary surgery so I'm told by my surgeon not to receive the vaccine, even if GMR miraculously pulls my name out of their vast queue.

Up to now, none of my health care providers seemed to care if I received the vaccine or not.

"Don't call us. We'll call you... someday..."

[Manatee]

Gracie hit it!

Common sense.

Read Reputable info


Don’t repeat unfounded rumors and lies.


Please listen to this man. He is a successful doctor, a pediatrician with stellar background and education.

I so agree about these enormous leaps into areas that have no basis whatsoever. Worrying about mouse DNA in Vaccine is really a stretch and by far not the worst conspiracy theory I have read.

I am NOT a person with credentials in medicine, but any of us can be educated if we stick to valid and reliable sources and avoid the talkers on Youtube.

[Manatee]

Respectfully,
The answer is easily found -google a reliable, scientific based resource. It was around for 2 years - killing for 2 years. It did not just “vanish”


Millions died in 1918 from a pandemic and in 1919 it was gone? No vaccines, medications, hand sanitizer back then. I am sure they wore masks but how did it just vanish?

[Swoop]

Respectfully,
The answer is easily found -google a reliable, scientific based resource. It was around for 2 years - killing for 2 years. It did not just “vanish”
Actually it was around for more than one year and less than two - if you want to split hairs. And I believe the point of their post, was that it ran its course, without vaccines - in less than two years...

[Sophie11]

Thank You - Yes this is what I was asking. It has been a year for this one and I wonder if they just go away on their own?

It was such a blessing to the world when the other one died. What did the people do to make it go if anything?

Does anyone know?

[coffeebean]

So, why am I not getting the vaccine?

Well, I registered everywhere over a month ago, as I'm sure most of you have done as well.

Now it's too close to my necessary surgery so I'm told by my surgeon not to receive the vaccine, even if GMR miraculously pulls my name out of their vast queue.

Up to now, none of my health care providers seemed to care if I received the vaccine or not.

"Don't call us. We'll call you... someday..."

Did your surgeon give you a reason for you not to be vaccinated before your surgery?

[bobdeb]

I have my first pre OP tomorrow. I'll try to get some details at that time.

[coffeebean]

I have my first pre OP tomorrow. I'll try to get some details at that time.

OK. Hope your surgery goes well.

[CFrance]

The FDA is a pathetically bureaucratic and slow agency. They took an extra 10 days to approve Pfizer's vaccine out of pure bureaucracy at a time when we desperately needed to start vaccinations.

They have not approved AstraZenaca's vaccine even though the U.K. and all of continental Europe have. AZ made an error in their testing procedure that returned BETTER than expected results. AZ submitted all the data but the FDA wants them to rerun the whole testing process which takes months. The FDA is not our friend.
Is that a No, you're not getting the vaccine?

[JimJohnson]

Where do you get these numbers???

The survival rate for the 65-74 group is about 94% and for the 75-84 group it drops to 85%. The survival rate for the flu is something like 99.998%.

Avoid the shot for whatever reason you have but stop spreading bad information that could get someone else killed.

Thank you. I find it mind boggling when people say they are not getting the vaccine.

[Bay Kid]

The man said we will all be vaccinated this year.

[DonnaNi4os]

We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

No one ever touted the vaccine as a “cure” but rather a way to slow the spread. You can still get the virus but you are much more likely NOT going to end up with the severe form that could end with you on a respirator or worse. But the choice is yours. No one is mandating that you get it. As for spreading the virus after being fully vaccinated, the jury is still out. As of now the possibility remains which is why we will be wearing masks for a long time. As Dr Fauci has said, being vaccinated is NOT a get out of jail free. Good luck to you.

[Sophie11]

Why? Many do not take vaccines.

[bobdeb]

I have posted in this regard earlier.

My surgeon does not want me to receive the vaccine within a week of surgery due to possible side effects. This is not elective surgery.

I've got a short period of time before I reach that date, which invites this question.

If I miraculously receive a code from GMR et al., how long can you delay responding and setting up a date?

And I hate that this may influence this already excruciating process for others...

I'm open to suggestions. Waiting to hear that I should boot GMR and get the BoGo at Publix following surgery. Anything else? And thanks in advance.

[stevekennedy3]

I did a lot of research on the safety of these vaccines, mostly from European sources (as I have lived in Europe twice in my life and worked with the Bundesgesundheitsamt, the FDA of Germany. I still have lots of contacts there). I personally do not believe they are safe. Here is the most qualified doctor in the USA on vaccines:

Dr Sherri Tenpenny - You Will Start Seeing The Effects Of The Covid19 Vaccines In 3-6 Months (https://www.bitchute.com/video/7aq9x2S5c2Q3/)

Moreover, there is a quick and easy way to avoid the virus that the pharmaceutical industry does not want you to know about. This knowledge has been around 2,000 years. My wife and I have been taking one TBS/day nano particle silver colloid at a concentration of 10 ppm for 7 years and have never even had a cold, let alone the flu or whatever. Do NOT believe what you read in a Google search about silver colloid unless you are very discerning as the pharmaceutical industry has written and posted many bad articles to scare you away from it and to their drugs. (Study your history. Rockefeller started what became our pharmaceutical industry and had the FDA call all natural products labelled "Quackery," so he could make money from manmade drugs). PROOF that silver colloid kills the Covid 19 virus was provided in a report last September 2020 by our own National Institutes of Health in a very thorough test of various particle sizes and various concentrations and found that silver colloid kills the virus down to 1 part per million! Here is the link to that report:

Potent antiviral effect of silver nanoparticles on SARS-CoV-2 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7486059/)

So, since our own government did the testing, why do they not want us to know? I have my own theories about this which have been formed after a lot of study about this virus. The unleashing of this virus, in my opinion, was no accident. The CCP did this intentionally. I suggest you do your own research and form your own opinions as there are many conclusions and motives you can form from a thorough research.

Lastly, we are giving serious thought to taking the J & J vaccine as I am afraid this administration will force us to all have vaccination cards to prove we got the vaccines in order to get on an airplane, and Heaven only knows what else. Because it is not made using the mNRA technology, it seems safe, at least at this point. I have more research to do, and am certain more information will be forthcoming before it is approved by the FDA.

[coffeebean]

I did a lot of research on the safety of these vaccines, mostly from European sources (as I have lived in Europe twice in my life and worked with the Bundesgesundheitsamt, the FDA of Germany. I still have lots of contacts there). I personally do not believe they are safe. Here is the most qualified doctor in the USA on vaccines:

Dr Sherri Tenpenny - You Will Start Seeing The Effects Of The Covid19 Vaccines In 3-6 Months (https://www.bitchute.com/video/7aq9x2S5c2Q3/)

Moreover, there is a quick and easy way to avoid the virus that the pharmaceutical industry does not want you to know about. This knowledge has been around 2,000 years. My wife and I have been taking one TBS/day nano particle silver colloid at a concentration of 10 ppm for 7 years and have never even had a cold, let alone the flu or whatever. Do NOT believe what you read in a Google search about silver colloid unless you are very discerning as the pharmaceutical industry has written and posted many bad articles to scare you away from it and to their drugs. (Study your history. Rockefeller started what became our pharmaceutical industry and had the FDA call all natural products labelled "Quackery," so he could make money from manmade drugs). PROOF that silver colloid kills the Covid 19 virus was provided in a report last September 2020 by our own National Institutes of Health in a very thorough test of various particle sizes and various concentrations and found that silver colloid kills the virus down to 1 part per million! Here is the link to that report:

Potent antiviral effect of silver nanoparticles on SARS-CoV-2 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7486059/)

So, since our own government did the testing, why do they not want us to know? I have my own theories about this which have been formed after a lot of study about this virus. The unleashing of this virus, in my opinion, was no accident. The CCP did this intentionally. I suggest you do your own research and form your own opinions as there are many conclusions and motives you can form from a thorough research.

Lastly, we are giving serious thought to taking the J & J vaccine as I am afraid this administration will force us to all have vaccination cards to prove we got the vaccines in order to get on an airplane, and Heaven only knows what else. Because it is not made using the mNRA technology, it seems safe, at least at this point. I have more research to do, and am certain more information will be forthcoming before it is approved by the FDA.

I began listening to Dr. Sheri Tenpenny. As soon as she called vaccines "poisons"......she lost me. I turned off the video and will not listen to anything she has to say. Sorry.

[Art cov]

I was recently out for dinner, a lady couldn’t help herself as she dominated the area with her loud voice talking about the vaccine. Please people enough already! If you get the shot or not, that’s your business! Let others do the opposite that you do. Be tolerate of others, especially in public places. Can’t even enjoy a dinner. I have heard some say we need to tolerate every kind of thing and yet those somehow are the most intolerable people around. Why are some so mean, hateful and nasty when someone disagrees with them? What has happened to being sweet, kind, grateful? Friendliest community? Many are but too many are grouches. I honestly feel so sorry for those that seem so miserable. Read the post. Anymore I just overlook half of them.

[JP]

I'm not so wild about having a foreign mRNA(made from rabbit blood) injected into my body to produce a foreign protein that will cause my body to produce an antigen.

[coffeebean]

I'm not so wild about having a foreign mRNA(made from rabbit blood) injected into my body to produce a foreign protein that will cause my body to produce an antigen.

Made from rabbit blood? Really? I don't think that is what this abstract says.....

In vitro synthesis of DNA complementary to purified rabbit globin mRNA (RNA-dependent DNA polymerase-reticulocyte-hemoglobin-density gradient centrifugation-oligo(dT) primer) - PubMed (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4333043/)

[JP]

Globin is derived from hemoglobin which is located in red blood cells

[Byte1]

Globin is derived from hemoglobin which is located in red blood cells

Hope you can LIVE with your decision. You could seek other venues for your information, other than the comic section of the paper. Just saying.

I did see a video and hear a statement saying the J&J vaccine was made from monkey poop. :1rotfl: But nothing related to rabbit blood. I would be interested in hearing more on the subject IF you could provide a reference link. Thank you.

[Sabella]

Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

If the vaccines are so safe then why are the pharmaceutical companies exempt from lawsuits for the rare cases that it will do serious harm or kill you?

[coffeebean]

If the vaccines are so safe then why are the pharmaceutical companies exempt from lawsuits for the rare cases that it will do serious harm or kill you?

Life is not 100% safe. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Tmarkwald]

These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!

I think 12 million people tested is good enough...

Mass 'real world' study confirms Pfizer vaccine's efficacy (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/mass-real-world-study-confirms-pfizer-vaccine-s-efficacy/ar-BB1e0ky3?ocid=msedgntp)

[Bill14564]

If the vaccines are so safe then why are the pharmaceutical companies exempt from lawsuits for the rare cases that it will do serious harm or kill you?

Just my guess....

If the manufacturers were not protected from lawsuits then they would protect themselves with a longer testing period. Our Govt decided the benefit of saving lives outweighed the slight risk that might still exist.

We are still losing about 3,000 people each day - we need a faster rollout not an exhaustive testing phase.

[billethkid]

Many are concerned about the short time these vaccines are being approved for public use.

What the media and other special interest groups are leaving out is the minimizing or removal of the non value added bureaucratic reviews, red tape, retesting and multiple layers of approvals.