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ureout
02-16-2021, 02:38 PM
wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that

Aloha1
02-16-2021, 04:10 PM
wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that

Good info. Thanks

kathyspear
02-16-2021, 08:47 PM
wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that

Why would lamination turn the card black? It's just white card stock.

kathy

Bjeanj
02-16-2021, 09:45 PM
That’s my question, too. We were thinking about laminating ours, but there are spaces for additional vaccinations, if needed.

MickeyStevens
02-16-2021, 09:48 PM
That’s my question, too. We were thinking about laminating ours, but there are spaces for additional vaccinations, if needed.

And that’s exactly why they suggested you don’t laminate the card i.e. the possibility of additional vaccines. I think someone was pulling your leg telling you the cards will turn black.

EdFNJ
02-16-2021, 10:11 PM
Why even bother? Their only purpose is as a personal record that you need as a reminder to get your second shot and which one it was. They have no "legal" use to identify you as vaccinated as they can easily be forged or faked or copied. A hand scribbled name and date on a card has no official use other than as a reminder or a souvenir. If you need "additional vaccines" the state or county has official records and will contact you as they do/did for the 2nd shot. That card won't be what gets you a booster shot if needed.

kaydee
02-16-2021, 11:39 PM
We were instructed to cut off the unused space at the bottom.. laminate. It did not turn black. Proof of vaccine will be needed should we travel out of the country. My husband had an appointment with his primary today & he was asked to show his card.

matandch
02-17-2021, 05:42 AM
Take a picture of your card or scan it using the “Notes” app on your iPhone then you can save it on your phone. I scanned mine as stated above and have it on my iPhone.

Cobullymom
02-17-2021, 06:06 AM
We were instructed to cut off the unused space at the bottom.. laminate. It did not turn black. Proof of vaccine will be needed should we travel out of the country. My husband had an appointment with his primary today & he was asked to show his card.
Show his card to go see his MD, why, will they start refusing to see you without it....hardly

bp243
02-17-2021, 06:32 AM
Show his card to go see his MD, why, will they start refusing to see you without it....hardly

These are weird times. If you’re planning to travel out of the country or if your doctor is keeping track of his/her patients who have been vaccinated, having proof would be wise until this virus loses its powerful grip on all of us.

Dgizzi
02-17-2021, 06:34 AM
Haven’t got my shot yet! What is this card about? You actually get a “card” saying you got the shot? Like a note from your Mom!

Girlcopper
02-17-2021, 07:03 AM
wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that
Its paper! Whats there to turn black? Plus, keep a copy on your phone or ipad. Thats what most people do nowadays. Plus, I think if you intend to keep it for travel purposes or whatever, I doubt that hand written card will get you anywhere. Its like an appt card from a dr. Nothing more

retiredguy123
02-17-2021, 07:08 AM
I scan all important legal documents and store them on the cloud. I can access them from my computer, phone, tablet, or any device connected to the internet. If you don't have a cloud account, you can set up a Google Drive account and use up to 15 GB of data storage for free. That is enough space to store thousands of scanned documents.

ureout
02-17-2021, 07:11 AM
we were told many cards turned black from the lamination process.. I'm just passing on what we were told at paddock mall yesterday.. they also gave the info. on taking a pic. and keeping it on your phone.. and printing a copy and laminating that.. it's not a big deal people, if you think they are wrong then laminate your card

Bill14564
02-17-2021, 07:14 AM
*IF* they used a thermal printer to make the card then the paper would be sensitive to heat and would turn black if put into a heated laminating machine.

If it is hand-written then it isn't likely to be thermal paper.

NY2TV
02-17-2021, 07:36 AM
Why are people jumping on the messenger? They are trying to be helpful by sharing info they were told. And why is it a big deal that a doctor wants to see proof you had the vaccine? They probably want to update your medical records and can't just take your word for it. Why jump to the conclusion that they won't see the patient without it? Lighten up, people.

MickeyStevens
02-17-2021, 07:36 AM
I scan all important legal documents and store them on the cloud. I can access them from my computer, phone, tablet, or any device connected to the internet. If you don't have a cloud account, you can set up a Google Drive account and use up to 15 GB of data storage for free. That is enough space to store thousands of scanned documents.

I do the same with documents, it works very well.

Lynnesail
02-17-2021, 07:45 AM
Show his card to go see his MD, why, will they start refusing to see you without it....hardly

The lot number is on the card. Should there be any issues in the future, you can be notified.

merrymini
02-17-2021, 07:46 AM
Well, if my doctor did not believe me if I told them I had had the shot and needed written verification, I would start shopping around for another doctor. What about all the other information you give them? Will they believe that? I think you should get an image of it tattooed on your forehead. Permanent and informative.

lpkshop
02-17-2021, 08:03 AM
wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that


I laminated our cards two weeks ago. So far they have not turned black. I do like the idea of the photo of the card, especially since the card doesn’t fit into my wallet.

Tankerrich
02-17-2021, 08:05 AM
Took our International Certificate of Vaccination (Yellow Booklet) and asked if they could put the info in that also. No problem. Just ask them. They are doing a great job. Make sure you thank everyone you come in contact with.

dreamweaver2634
02-17-2021, 08:05 AM
what difference does it make?

Fisherman
02-17-2021, 08:15 AM
I was vaccinated in Lake County. I was instructed to give this to all my Drs to put in my medical records. Will also be traveling out of the country in September and have been told I must provide this CDC card. When I traveled all over Asia and Africa, I had to show the same type of vaccination record upon entering the country. Mine has been documented with the lot number of my particular batch. I can not imagine even trying to obtain this information from and state, local or federal agency at this point in time.

tonycirocco@me.com
02-17-2021, 08:17 AM
Thanks, Bill

ellenwelsh
02-17-2021, 08:23 AM
The card would not turn black. The little stickers they had put on the card turn black from the heat of the lamination. Take a picture of it with your phone, put the card in the little plastic case they gave you and put it with your passport, (just like we used to do with the old yellow WHO cards.

Fisherman
02-17-2021, 08:31 AM
Well, if my doctor did not believe me if I told them I had had the shot and needed written verification, I would start shopping around for another doctor. What about all the other information you give them? Will they believe that? I think you should get an image of it tattooed on your forehead. Permanent and informative.

Your sarcasm really adds no value to this discussion. My Dr immediately scanned it in to my record. If there are adverse reactions down the road, he can report it to the CDC with the lot number. It is not a question of what you tell your Dr and if he or she chooses to believe you. If your Dr did not want to document your vaccination record, had you had one, in to your medical records, maybe you should be looking for a new Dr.

Ornamentlady
02-17-2021, 08:40 AM
I just put mine in a baggie and stored it with my passport .

coconutmama
02-17-2021, 08:45 AM
Your sarcasm really adds no value to this discussion. My Dr immediately scanned it in to my record. If there are adverse reactions down the road, he can report it to the CDC with the lot number. It is not a question of what you tell your Dr and if he or she chooses to believe you. If your Dr did not want to document your vaccination record, had you had one, in to your medical records, maybe you should be looking for a new Dr.

Thank you. My doctor asked to let them know when I receive my 2nd dose & I will be sure to bring my card. Good info about lot #. Makes total sense.

bjp1673
02-17-2021, 08:50 AM
I was going to get mine done and now I know better.

Radams51
02-17-2021, 08:57 AM
perhaps hot lamination causes the issue of turning black - cold lamination may not

dhdallas
02-17-2021, 09:06 AM
“Vaccines can cause anaphylaxis and other dangerous life-threatening side effects.” - NIH (National Institute of Health)

Example: “The United States stopped giving mandatory smallpox vaccinations 30 years ago. Some people die from it; and others have serious reactions, some permanent. Scientists say it's the most dangerous vaccine known to man.” - CBS News, 60 Minutes

These new COVID vaccines containing genetic instructions were rushed into use with extremely short trial periods. According to the IFPMA, the development of novel vaccines is a long endeavor. “It takes usually between 10 to 15 years to develop a novel vaccine, as well as establishing its quality, safety and efficacy.” states the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers & Associations.

The NIH, CDC, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD) combined to find the vaccine and dubbed the project OWS which stands for “Operation Warp Speed”. - Source/NIH’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases.

So bear in mind when you are being told that this vaccine is safe that this is the same government whose EPA said the air quality at the 9/11 site was safe for the cleanup workers, the DoD who had no qualms conducting LSD experiments on unsuspecting soldiers and said there was no cancer link to Agent Orange, and for-profit drug companies who market drugs in third world countries even though the same drugs have been banned in the U.S. and Europe due to harmful side effects. From 08/30/2017 to 02/03/2021 327 drugs previously approved by the FDA as safe & effective were recalled. This information was obtained from the FDA’s official website.

My final concern is that the COVID vaccines utilize genetic engineering. Messenger RNA vaccines (mRNA) vaccines have strands of genetic material called mRNA - source/CDC

I am NOT an “anti-vaxxer” nor a conspiracy theorist. I have had the DPT, pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, HBV, and the zoster vaccine. I am susceptible and was routinely exposed to these diseases at my workplace. These vaccines have a proven record and were not rushed into production.

For those who have NOT already had a positive COVID test, I would carefully weigh the pros & cons of a new, relatively untested vaccine developed at “warp speed” (their words not mine) that uses genetic engineering against a virus that is just a nuisance for most people. Before you jump on me for stating it is “just a nuisance for most people” here is another direct quote from the WHO; “Most people infected with the COVID-19 virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment.” COVID is not on a plane with Ebola, the Plague, Cholera, Malaria, or Yellow Fever. Not even close!

- David Dallas EMT-Paramedic, RN, ASN, Retired

Singerlady
02-17-2021, 09:28 AM
Why even bother? Their only purpose is as a personal record that you need as a reminder to get your second shot and which one it was. They have no "legal" use to identify you as vaccinated as they can easily be forged or faked or copied. A hand scribbled name and date on a card has no official use other than as a reminder or a souvenir. If you need "additional vaccines" the state or county has official records and will contact you as they do/did for the 2nd shot. That card won't be what gets you a booster shot if needed.
The only purpose now, that we KNOW of, is for a personal record. Don’t know what’s coming or what they’ll change.

Jgabriele
02-17-2021, 09:36 AM
I was told just the opposite.

Al2014
02-17-2021, 09:54 AM
“Vaccines can cause anaphylaxis and other dangerous life-threatening side effects.” - NIH (National Institute of Health)

Example: “The United States stopped giving mandatory smallpox vaccinations 30 years ago. Some people die from it; and others have serious reactions, some permanent. Scientists say it's the most dangerous vaccine known to man.” - CBS News, 60 Minutes

These new COVID vaccines containing genetic instructions were rushed into use with extremely short trial periods. According to the IFPMA, the development of novel vaccines is a long endeavor. “It takes usually between 10 to 15 years to develop a novel vaccine, as well as establishing its quality, safety and efficacy.” states the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers & Associations.

The NIH, CDC, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD) combined to find the vaccine and dubbed the project OWS which stands for “Operation Warp Speed”. - Source/NIH’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases.

So bear in mind when you are being told that this vaccine is safe that this is the same government whose EPA said the air quality at the 9/11 site was safe for the cleanup workers, the DoD who had no qualms conducting LSD experiments on unsuspecting soldiers and said there was no cancer link to Agent Orange, and for-profit drug companies who market drugs in third world countries even though the same drugs have been banned in the U.S. and Europe due to harmful side effects. From 08/30/2017 to 02/03/2021 327 drugs previously approved by the FDA as safe & effective were recalled. This information was obtained from the FDA’s official website.

My final concern is that the COVID vaccines utilize genetic engineering. Messenger RNA vaccines (mRNA) vaccines have strands of genetic material called mRNA - source/CDC

I am NOT an “anti-vaxxer” nor a conspiracy theorist. I have had the DPT, pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, HBV, and the zoster vaccine. I am susceptible and was routinely exposed to these diseases at my workplace. These vaccines have a proven record and were not rushed into production.

For those who have NOT already had a positive COVID test, I would carefully weigh the pros & cons of a new, relatively untested vaccine developed at “warp speed” (their words not mine) that uses genetic engineering against a virus that is just a nuisance for most people. Before you jump on me for stating it is “just a nuisance for most people” here is another direct quote from the WHO; “Most people infected with the COVID-19 virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment.” COVID is not on a plane with Ebola, the Plague, Cholera, Malaria, or Yellow Fever. Not even close!

- David Dallas EMT-Paramedic, RN, ASN, Retired

I repect your right to decide not to get the vaccine. I maintain that I have the right to decide if I will get the vaccine. Our 2nd shot is today.

GeriS
02-17-2021, 10:06 AM
That’s my question, too. We were thinking about laminating ours, but there are spaces for additional vaccinations, if needed.
More vaccinations??? Tracking. You'd better do your homework.

dtennent
02-17-2021, 10:14 AM
“Vaccines can cause anaphylaxis and other dangerous life-threatening side effects.” - NIH (National Institute of Health)

Example: “The United States stopped giving mandatory smallpox vaccinations 30 years ago. Some people die from it; and others have serious reactions, some permanent. Scientists say it's the most dangerous vaccine known to man.” - CBS News, 60 Minutes

These new COVID vaccines containing genetic instructions were rushed into use with extremely short trial periods. According to the IFPMA, the development of novel vaccines is a long endeavor. “It takes usually between 10 to 15 years to develop a novel vaccine, as well as establishing its quality, safety and efficacy.” states the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers & Associations.

The NIH, CDC, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD) combined to find the vaccine and dubbed the project OWS which stands for “Operation Warp Speed”. - Source/NIH’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases.

So bear in mind when you are being told that this vaccine is safe that this is the same government whose EPA said the air quality at the 9/11 site was safe for the cleanup workers, the DoD who had no qualms conducting LSD experiments on unsuspecting soldiers and said there was no cancer link to Agent Orange, and for-profit drug companies who market drugs in third world countries even though the same drugs have been banned in the U.S. and Europe due to harmful side effects. From 08/30/2017 to 02/03/2021 327 drugs previously approved by the FDA as safe & effective were recalled. This information was obtained from the FDA’s official website.

My final concern is that the COVID vaccines utilize genetic engineering. Messenger RNA vaccines (mRNA) vaccines have strands of genetic material called mRNA - source/CDC

I am NOT an “anti-vaxxer” nor a conspiracy theorist. I have had the DPT, pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, HBV, and the zoster vaccine. I am susceptible and was routinely exposed to these diseases at my workplace. These vaccines have a proven record and were not rushed into production.

For those who have NOT already had a positive COVID test, I would carefully weigh the pros & cons of a new, relatively untested vaccine developed at “warp speed” (their words not mine) that uses genetic engineering against a virus that is just a nuisance for most people. Before you jump on me for stating it is “just a nuisance for most people” here is another direct quote from the WHO; “Most people infected with the COVID-19 virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment.” COVID is not on a plane with Ebola, the Plague, Cholera, Malaria, or Yellow Fever. Not even close!

- David Dallas EMT-Paramedic, RN, ASN, Retired


First - with regard to the small pox vaccinations - they were discontinued in the US when there was no small pox in most of the world. Today, there are no known cases of small pox anywhere in the world. Hence, there is no need to vaccinate people against small pox.

Second - While most people will suffer only mild conditions with Covid-19, the fact is ICU units were being swamped by the folks who suffered from serious conditions. While I am very healthy, I am not willing to bet that I won't need an ICU bed.

Third - We are just learning about the longer term effects from this virus with folks who seemed to have only mild symptoms.

I have no disagreement with your stating that these vaccines were developed at "warp speed". However, given the situation, I think the collective government agencies from around the world did the appropriate thing. The usual development of vaccines ( or any drug) takes 10+ years. This is to minimize risk to larger test groups. The initial smaller group tests with years of review were skipped. Instead larger groups were tested much sooner meaning that the individuals in those trials were at greater risk than what would normally happen. The results from those trials showed that some vaccines were not effective (and the trial stopped - Merck vaccine) or that the vaccines were effective and were scaled up.

While I respect your decision not to get vaccinated, please don't use scare tactics to persuade others to follow your decision.

Shutterbug
02-17-2021, 10:16 AM
And that’s exactly why they suggested you don’t laminate the card i.e. the possibility of additional vaccines. I think someone was pulling your leg telling you the cards will turn black.

I guess it is like your military shot record...

Spike380
02-17-2021, 10:22 AM
wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that
We were also told to not laminate-because there might be an additional shot! A LOT of people laminated the first card and they started telling everyone in line!

Mhollowaygleasom
02-17-2021, 10:29 AM
We were told not to laminate as it is an official document and it’s not to be altered. They likened it to SS cards.

oxfordreb52@gmail.com
02-17-2021, 10:32 AM
Why even bother? Their only purpose is as a personal record that you need as a reminder to get your second shot and which one it was. They have no "legal" use to identify you as vaccinated as they can easily be forged or faked or copied. A hand scribbled name and date on a card has no official use other than as a reminder or a souvenir. If you need "additional vaccines" the state or county has official records and will contact you as they do/did for the 2nd shot. That card won't be what gets you a booster shot if needed.

and what you state for Ocala is not true. I had to show the card to them so they could match it up with their records. I did not get a call to remind me to go get it either. The second shot (Pfizer) does have some side affects on me but nothing drastic. But you are correct in that if a third shot is required next year, like the flu, the card will be required. No one knows at this time whether or not this is on and done process or an annual process. Time will tell. All this info came from doctors and nurses on sight yesterday at Paddick Mall.

terrild53
02-17-2021, 10:34 AM
The nurses at the Lake County Vaccination Site last week said that after we get our 2nd vaccination we can laminate the card we received to keep in wallets for travel, since right now International travel requires proof of having received vaccine and it’s likely domestic travel could require proof in the future as well. Nothing was said about anything “turning black” if laminated. You can buy the laminating sheets in Staples and it simply sticks on whatever you’re applying it to then trim off any excess. Not a big deal.

EdFNJ
02-17-2021, 10:43 AM
and what you state for Ocala is not true. I had to show the card to them so they could match it up with their records. I did not get a call to remind me to go get it either. The second shot (Pfizer) does have some side affects on me but nothing drastic. But you are correct in that if a third shot is required next year, like the flu, the card will be required. No one knows at this time whether or not this is on and done process or an annual process. Time will tell. All this info came from doctors and nurses on sight yesterday at Paddick Mall. Wait, So they took "your card" over your ACTUAL LEGAL ID to verify what shot you have already had? If true that's ridiculous. SCDOH asked us for DL only, nothing else for 2nd shot because they know exactly what they gave us from RECORDS they had in their hands when we arrived. When we got to the tent they asked if we had our card or needed a new one. We did have it and they scribbled the date and batch on it which is barely decipherable because the card is only for your personal records. You can be sure if you didn't have your card they would still have taken you and given you another one for your 2nd shot.

Byte1
02-17-2021, 10:53 AM
I was vaccinated in Lake County. I was instructed to give this to all my Drs to put in my medical records. Will also be traveling out of the country in September and have been told I must provide this CDC card. When I traveled all over Asia and Africa, I had to show the same type of vaccination record upon entering the country. Mine has been documented with the lot number of my particular batch. I can not imagine even trying to obtain this information from and state, local or federal agency at this point in time.

Interesting. I have one of those yellow shot record booklets also and was told that I would need it when entering other countries. I have been to dozens of countries and never had to show it once, not even in the good ole U.S. of A. Of course, when I was planning to travel overseas, they told me which shots I had to have before leaving, but no one ever asked me for proof.

J1ceasar
02-17-2021, 10:57 AM
I was told there is a NATIONAL database of who is vaccinated .. good to know if the airlines require you to be vaccinated eventually before flights.



wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that

Byte1
02-17-2021, 11:13 AM
Next year, no one will have any need for this card. Once your doctor puts it in his file for you, you won't need that little card. I have seen some that are hand written. Mine is neatly type printed. I doubt it is for any other use than your own personal use. I don't really care because I have done enough traveling to last a lifetime and have no intention of traveling again. If I have to fly domestically, I am sure this will be over with by then and this card will be a moot point.
In my opinion, this is a big "nothing burger." No one has been denied a flight because of a lack of proof for their flu shot. And after the hysteria winds down, this will be the same.

EdFNJ
02-17-2021, 11:17 AM
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stebooo
02-17-2021, 11:18 AM
Why laminate at all?

Bill14564
02-17-2021, 11:19 AM
The nurses at the Lake County Vaccination Site last week said that after we get our 2nd vaccination we can laminate the card we received to keep in wallets for travel, since right now International travel requires proof of having received vaccine and it’s likely domestic travel could require proof in the future as well. Nothing was said about anything “turning black” if laminated. You can buy the laminating sheets in Staples and it simply sticks on whatever you’re applying it to then trim off any excess. Not a big deal.

International travel does not currently require proof of Covid vaccination.

stebooo
02-17-2021, 11:28 AM
I know this is the wrong thread. I want to post a question. Cao find a link as to post a new strn't seem string.?

New Englander
02-17-2021, 11:29 AM
First - with regard to the small pox vaccinations - they were discontinued in the US when there was no small pox in most of the world. Today, there are no known cases of small pox anywhere in the world. Hence, there is no need to vaccinate people against small pox.

Second - While most people will suffer only mild conditions with Covid-19, the fact is ICU units were being swamped by the folks who suffered from serious conditions. While I am very healthy, I am not willing to bet that I won't need an ICU bed.

Third - We are just learning about the longer term effects from this virus with folks who seemed to have only mild symptoms.

I have no disagreement with your stating that these vaccines were developed at "warp speed". However, given the situation, I think the collective government agencies from around the world did the appropriate thing. The usual development of vaccines ( or any drug) takes 10+ years. This is to minimize risk to larger test groups. The initial smaller group tests with years of review were skipped. Instead larger groups were tested much sooner meaning that the individuals in those trials were at greater risk than what would normally happen. The results from those trials showed that some vaccines were not effective (and the trial stopped - Merck vaccine) or that the vaccines were effective and were scaled up.

While I respect your decision not to get vaccinated, please don't use scare tactics to persuade others to follow your decision.

Excellent Post! :clap2:

Alana33
02-17-2021, 12:28 PM
While I have not been lucky enough to snag an appointment to receive my 1st Covid Vaccination as yet (on a wait list), I did update my vaccinations for Flu, Pneumonia, Tetanus and received my 1st Shingles vaccination. (2nd one next month). My pharmacist at Winn Dixie gave me a card that has a record of what I was vaccinated for and the dates.
It's good to have a record of what you've received and when.
Gave my Dr. the information.
When I was a child, I was vaccinated against smallpox. If you did not get that, you were not allowed to attend school until you did.
I am grateful there are vaccines to help protect people against deadly diseases.
Meanwhile, I'll wait and look forward to getting the Covid vaccinations and continue to be proactive by wearing a mask, etc., until we are able to get this pandemic under control.
Many travel destinations require a negative covid test with that test info submitted prior to travel to that destination. Plus testing upon arrival and quarantine for 4 days until negative test confirmed and testing again prior to departure, mandatory mask wearing in public places.
Minimal deaths and infection rates due to these restrictions.
Some airlines now require negative test prior to boarding as well.
I lost one family member to this virus and pray I won't lose another.
Wearing a mask in public places is such a simple thing to do.

kathyspear
02-17-2021, 12:41 PM
The lot number is on the card. Should there be any issues in the future, you can be notified.

Lot number is not on my card. Just says "Pfizer", the date given, and "EMS" and "LAKE DOH" for healthcare professional (no name even!)

k.

Hape2Bhr
02-17-2021, 01:58 PM
wife and I went for our 2nd shot today and was told not to laminate the original card.. lamination turns the card black.. they advised us to take a picture of card and keep it on our phones also you can print out a copy of the picture/card and laminate that

We hope to get our first shot tomorrow in Inverness, so no vaccine card yet. Do not know if all the cards are of identical paper, but there are some types of paper that definitely will turn black if they are laminated in a thermal machine...I, unfortunately have done it. :ohdear:

coffeebean
02-17-2021, 02:55 PM
Haven’t got my shot yet! What is this card about? You actually get a “card” saying you got the shot? Like a note from your Mom!

Google images for "Covid vaccine card". You will see what information is included on the card. I have taken a photo of my card with both of my shots information entered on the card.

Have you ever traveled abroad and required prove of vaccination? That is what this card is for.

LianneMigiano
02-17-2021, 02:59 PM
Unless the information was on thermal paper I doubt that it would turn black. I had the unfortunate experience of attempting to preserve my future granddaughter's image on thermal paper many years ago and totally obliterated the precious image forever.

coffeebean
02-17-2021, 03:10 PM
Your sarcasm really adds no value to this discussion. My Dr immediately scanned it in to my record. If there are adverse reactions down the road, he can report it to the CDC with the lot number. It is not a question of what you tell your Dr and if he or she chooses to believe you. If your Dr did not want to document your vaccination record, had you had one, in to your medical records, maybe you should be looking for a new Dr.

I can surely tell who the anti-vaxxers are with those type of comments. Sad really.

coffeebean
02-17-2021, 03:37 PM
Why laminate at all?

Many many years ago when I was young just entering the adult world of grown-ups, I was "inducted" into the Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles. I was given a card which I kept in my wallet for many, many years. Just recently, I looked at that card as it was buried in the dregs of my wallet, it was nearly paper pulp and not readable any more. I reluctantly threw that card away. Wish I had it laminated many many years ago.

Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_and_Honorable_Order_of_Turtles)

coffeebean
02-17-2021, 03:41 PM
Lot number is not on my card. Just says "Pfizer", the date given, and "EMS" and "LAKE DOH" for healthcare professional (no name even!)

k.

My card does include both Moderna shot's LOT #s.

Dorebea
02-18-2021, 05:33 PM
“Vaccines can cause anaphylaxis and other dangerous life-threatening side effects.” - NIH (National Institute of Health)

Example: “The United States stopped giving mandatory smallpox vaccinations 30 years ago. Some people die from it; and others have serious reactions, some permanent. Scientists say it's the most dangerous vaccine known to man.” - CBS News, 60 Minutes

These new COVID vaccines containing genetic instructions were rushed into use with extremely short trial periods. According to the IFPMA, the development of novel vaccines is a long endeavor. “It takes usually between 10 to 15 years to develop a novel vaccine, as well as establishing its quality, safety and efficacy.” states the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers & Associations.

The NIH, CDC, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD) combined to find the vaccine and dubbed the project OWS which stands for “Operation Warp Speed”. - Source/NIH’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases.

So bear in mind when you are being told that this vaccine is safe that this is the same government whose EPA said the air quality at the 9/11 site was safe for the cleanup workers, the DoD who had no qualms conducting LSD experiments on unsuspecting soldiers and said there was no cancer link to Agent Orange, and for-profit drug companies who market drugs in third world countries even though the same drugs have been banned in the U.S. and Europe due to harmful side effects. From 08/30/2017 to 02/03/2021 327 drugs previously approved by the FDA as safe & effective were recalled. This information was obtained from the FDA’s official website.

My final concern is that the COVID vaccines utilize genetic engineering. Messenger RNA vaccines (mRNA) vaccines have strands of genetic material called mRNA - source/CDC

I am NOT an “anti-vaxxer” nor a conspiracy theorist. I have had the DPT, pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, HBV, and the zoster vaccine. I am susceptible and was routinely exposed to these diseases at my workplace. These vaccines have a proven record and were not rushed into production.

For those who have NOT already had a positive COVID test, I would carefully weigh the pros & cons of a new, relatively untested vaccine developed at “warp speed” (their words not mine) that uses genetic engineering against a virus that is just a nuisance for most people. Before you jump on me for stating it is “just a nuisance for most people” here is another direct quote from the WHO; “Most people infected with the COVID-19 virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment.” COVID is not on a plane with Ebola, the Plague, Cholera, Malaria, or Yellow Fever. Not even close!

- David Dallas EMT-Paramedic, RN, ASN, Retired

Glad you retired. Stop trying to make it sound like this is some hastily developed solution.

From the CDC:
“mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies....”

“Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades.” “mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV) “. “Beyond vaccines, cancer research has used mRNA to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells.”

Link to the full article: Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html)

dzine
02-18-2021, 07:41 PM
What about when vaccine proof is required to fly? Already required by some countries going overseas. Will be more and more as travel resumes.

dzine
02-18-2021, 08:21 PM
Some people think it's the flu but the truth is, there are many now who are Long Termers after not really recovering fully from covid-19. Lung and heart damage that is permanent is being studied all over the country. People in the Villages are reporting not feeling fully over the virus even months later. It doesn't always just present a mild case or does one heal fully. Take that risk and don't get the vaccine. But don't ignore the vaccine from the standpoint that you could be a spreader for the next many months or beyond to innocent people.

Bjeanj
02-18-2021, 08:58 PM
The card would not turn black. The little stickers they had put on the card turn black from the heat of the lamination. Take a picture of it with your phone, put the card in the little plastic case they gave you and put it with your passport, (just like we used to do with the old yellow WHO cards.

Wait. You got a plastic case? We didn’t.