Golf Etiquette - Cigarette Butts

[Joanne19335]

As an ambassador who works executive and championship courses, I frequently find cigarette butts (some still burning) on tee boxes and around the greens. Part of my job is to clear away the broken tees, trash that may have blown onto the tee boxes and greens and filling divots as well as fixing fresh ball marks on the greens. I have noticed that over the past year, the number of cigarette butts discarded on the tee boxes has increased significantly. Besides being a health issue, this type of unnecessary trash is disgusting. Is it too much to ask that smokers buy a small ashtray to put in their carts and not discard their butts on the course? Ambassadors are responsible for regular "clean-up" before and after the golfers play. Please be considerate, not only to your fellow golfers, but to the workers and maintenance staff. We want your golf experience to be enjoyable for everyone.

[stanley]

And the damn cigars! And watch your masks, they are as much of a problem as the cigars and cigarette butts! Disgusting!

[thelegges]

You would think after decades of danger of smoking 🚬 the DS’s would of quit by now? :faint:

If they have smoked entire adult life, why quit now? It’s not like quitting will give them extra years, let them enjoy one of the lifelong habitats. But I agree pick up your butts, not just on the course, but around ponds, residents property, and the road

[Fredman]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do

[Hape2Bhr]

As an ambassador who works executive and championship courses, I frequently find cigarette butts (some still burning) on tee boxes and around the greens. Part of my job is to clear away the broken tees, trash that may have blown onto the tee boxes and greens and filling divots as well as fixing fresh ball marks on the greens. I have noticed that over the past year, the number of cigarette butts discarded on the tee boxes has increased significantly. Besides being a health issue, this type of unnecessary trash is disgusting. Is it too much to ask that smokers buy a small ashtray to put in their carts and not discard their butts on the course? Ambassadors are responsible for regular "clean-up" before and after the golfers play. Please be considerate, not only to your fellow golfers, but to the workers and maintenance staff. We want your golf experience to be enjoyable for everyone.

Probably the same people that throw their butts out when driving in their car. I believe most cars come with ashtrays. :ohdear:

[Joe V.]

Probably the same people that throw their butts out when driving in their car. I believe most cars come with ashtrays. :ohdear:

Not anymore. Automakers started to silently phase them out sometime in the mid 90’s. By the 2000’s, most cars only offered them as optional features. Today, many cars don’t even do that.

[John_W]

Not anymore. Automakers started to silently phase them out sometime in the mid 90’s. By the 2000’s, most cars only offered them as optional features. Today, many cars don’t even do that.

Ash trays was where you put your change. I just wish they hadn't phased out CD players.

[wisbad1]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do
Wrong,

[DeanFL]

Wrong,
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agree - I've seen a share of butts, as well on our streets and MM paths. One thing haven't seen on courses yet - the infanous dog poop. Well, I 've had my share of crappy shots in TV, but I try to clean off my clubs really well after.
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[John_W]

I don't know what goes on at an executives, maybe the ambassadors are too busy with water and sand because I haven't played one in at least five years. However, the championship courses, I haven't played a round in ten years where I didn't see an ambassador picking up broken tees, or filling divots on the tees.

[Art cov]

If they have smoked entire adult life, why quit now? It’s not like quitting will give them extra years, let them enjoy one of the lifelong habitats. But I agree pick up your butts, not just on the course, but around ponds, residents property, and the road
This hits home for me. My mom n dad smoked for 60 years. Both had a list of health issues. Mom was an old roller derby gal and dad a boxer. Both were as tough as nails and neither backed down from a fight. As a boy I seen both in fists fights with their same sex. True story! One day mom’s doctor told her make preparations to die, he said only thing to help is quit smoking immediately and she did! A surprise for sure and she is alive yet. Dad’s doctor said you have smoked all these years, if you want to smoke then smoke. He lasted a few years and died. A man with 20” arms and powerful man was brought to a frail man in the hospital, that gasped for every breath. Hoses in nose, mouth and throat to gain another minute of life. The cigarette commercials always portrayed the smokers as cool and sexy but didn’t show a man like dad on his deathbed. Please if you smoke, then quit! It may give you a better quality of life later. You will smell better too

[tophcfa]

Disgusting habit, after watching my beloved father die of lung cancer I will never understand how someone can knowingly kill them self?

[tsmall22204]

No they don't.

[tsmall22204]

Well then do your job and clean up.

[wereback]

Wife watched her father die from lung cancer took a long time and was not pretty to watch She had not been able to quit before but quit the day he died 20years ago hasn't smoked since

[staceygolf]

Funny you address this as the players being the ones smoking. I have noticed a LOT of Starters smoking while standing out front of check in area and Ambassadors driving around in carts.
You have to practice what you preach.

[jdulej]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do

Sorry, you are very wrong about that. Now, if people cleaned up after themselves and fixed their divots (at the tee box and on the green) there might be less for them to do.

[stanley]

Funny you address this as the players being the ones smoking. I have noticed a LOT of Starters smoking while standing out front of check in area and Ambassadors driving around in carts.
You have to practice what you preach.

That's a bunch of crap and you know it. Smoking in view of public while on whatever shift is not allowed. I know a few guys that have gotten reprimanded for it. Some people need to STFU when it comes to talking crap, and believing they know what the staff's duties are.

[Ralpha]

I agree with you! They do it because they have no respect or consideration for the players, nor the employees who work hard to keep our courses clean.
If they can’t wait until they are finished playing, then they should carry an ashtray with them.

[Bay Kid]

I don't know what goes on at an executives, maybe the ambassadors are too busy with water and sand because I haven't played one in at least five years. However, the championship courses, I haven't played a round in ten years where I didn't see an ambassador picking up broken tees, or filling divots on the tees.

Same on the executive courses. The ambassadors do the best they can but we need to help. If you see someone drop a cig ask them to please pick that up. Or pick it and give it back to them. Respect.

[mike1921]

I am speaking from my experience SA

Well maybe you should open your eyes and you're experiences would be expanded.

Also, ambassadors normally clean up the course at the end of the day before they go in to the cart barn. There is not as many golfers to watch them at that time. If you were there you would see them putting rakes back in the traps that are left out by golfers that don't know the right procedure. Picking up trash including cigarettes and nasty cigars. Cleaning tee boxes. Repairing divots. Repairing ball marks......yeah they do a lot more than riding around.

Also regarding just riding around,,,,,when ambassadors do try to advise golfers that they are out of position and ask that they pick up their pace they are some times verbally (and on more than one occasion physically)abused. It seems some of the golfers out there are so much more experienced about how a golf course should be run that they always know better.

[stanley]

Well maybe you should open your eyes and you're experiences would be expanded.

Also, ambassadors normally clean up the course at the end of the day before they go in to the cart barn. There is not as many golfers to watch them at that time. If you were there you would see them putting rakes back in the traps that are left out by golfers that don't know the right procedure. Picking up trash including cigarettes and nasty cigars. Cleaning tee boxes. Repairing divots. Repairing ball marks......yeah they do a lot more than riding around.

Also regarding just riding around,,,,,when ambassadors do try to advise golfers that they are out of position and ask that they pick up their pace they are some times verbally (and on more than one occasion physically)abused. It seems some of the golfers out there are so much more experienced about how a golf course should be run that they always know better.

Thank you! Also with a full tee sheet there is no way an Ambassador can perform all their duties, yes DUTIES, we would just get in the way of play and **** more of you off than we normally do.

[forebubba]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do

As a former ambassador I have picked up orange peels, banana peels, apple cores. Animals or birds don't eat these. The worst is pistachio shells at the tee box.
Ambassadors also fill divots that players don't. Fix ball marks that players don't.
Treat the golf course like you own it...you kinda do on the execs, not like some who feel entitled to do what they want because someone else will do it.

[MayaC]

Golf etiquette is certainly nothing new - and there are many who are not aware that they should care for the courses they play or feel that their fees include someone cleaning up after them.

By the way - Replacing divots is mentioned in the golf rules of 1891.

Finally, “Respect for the rules, the golf course and the player ensures a consistent future for a pastime that has endured for more than 500 years” - Ben Crenshaw, Forward, Golf Etiquette

Bottom line: the course isn't a trash bin. If you smoke carry out your butts. Replace or fix your divots and ball marks. If you do not know how, google it.

[Guitarman1951]

It is really aggravating when I see discarded butts anywhere on the courses. Some people are inconsiderate and lazy. I used to pick them up and put them in the next tee trash can but with covid, I stopped doing that. They sell those those little butt can/ashtrays that will fit in beverage holders for a buck or so. I wish they could require them on the courses if you are a smoker.

[Jerseyborn]

I have often seen ambassadors clean up tee boxes and repair ball marks on the green. I even had one stop to warn of a Snake near the walking path on an executive course (I usually walk). Cigarette butts can carry the virus. Please dispose of them properly.

[pearlsam]

As an ambassador who works executive and championship courses, I frequently find cigarette butts (some still burning) on tee boxes and around the greens. Part of my job is to clear away the broken tees, trash that may have blown onto the tee boxes and greens and filling divots as well as fixing fresh ball marks on the greens. I have noticed that over the past year, the number of cigarette butts discarded on the tee boxes has increased significantly. Besides being a health issue, this type of unnecessary trash is disgusting. Is it too much to ask that smokers buy a small ashtray to put in their carts and not discard their butts on the course? Ambassadors are responsible for regular "clean-up" before and after the golfers play. Please be considerate, not only to your fellow golfers, but to the workers and maintenance staff. We want your golf experience to be enjoyable for everyone.
Totally agree. No one should be allowed to golf in The Villages unless they have attended "good golf school." Things like ready golf and fixing divots would make everyone's experience better.

[Girlcopper]

Probably the same people that throw their butts out when driving in their car. I believe most cars come with ashtrays. :ohdear:
Cars have not come with ash trays for years or cigarette lighters. What year is your car?

[b0bd0herty]

Ash trays was where you put your change. I just wish they hadn't phased out CD players.

I miss my 8-Track. :(

[Marykschulz]

I have also noticed many butts at tee boxes. Do these smokers toss their butts in their own yards near their front doors? I would guess not. Some smokers are very considerate of others, but seeing the number of butts leads me to believe that most smokers are not. This trash does NOT recycle or decompose contrary to what some smokers claim.

[PJackpot]

My favorite is when they pull down their mask to smoke a cigarette. Shows how brainwashed and idiotic they are. Not the slightest bit worried about the death rate among smokers (roughly 67%_ The terrifying rate at which smokers die from smoking | Cancer Schmancer (https://www.cancerschmancer.org/articles/terrifying-rate-which-smokers-die-smoking)), but all freaked out about the Covid death rate (less than 2%).

[Ndomines]

Our friends who smoke are some if the nicest people.
When they come to visit and sit on our furniture they leave their territory marked with a dirty ashtray stench.
We open the windows and spray the furniture with with air freshener . Their clothing, like their house, is permeated with cigarette stench.
It seems to cling to the furniture. We know the addiction is very strong and dangerous but we wish they would put on fresh non cigarette stench clothes before they come to visit.
QUOTE=Art cov;1905972]This hits home for me. My mom n dad smoked for 60 years. Both had a list of health issues. Mom was an old roller derby gal and dad a boxer. Both were as tough as nails and neither backed down from a fight. As a boy I seen both in fists fights with their same sex. True story! One day mom’s doctor told her make preparations to die, he said only thing to help is quit smoking immediately and she did! A surprise for sure and she is alive yet. Dad’s doctor said you have smoked all these years, if you want to smoke then smoke. He lasted a few years and died. A man with 20” arms and powerful man was brought to a frail man in the hospital, that gasped for every breath. Hoses in nose, mouth and throat to gain another minute of life. The cigarette commercials always portrayed the smokers as cool and sexy but didn’t show a man like dad on his deathbed. Please if you smoke, then quit! It may give you a better quality of life later. You will smell better too[/QUOTE]

[Bill1701]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do

Then you must not be paying attention.

[mflasch]

The fact that a person smokes cigarettes in the first place is an indication of their low IQ level. To expect them to care about littering may be way too much for them to comprehend. Maybe because they look bad, smell bad and are killing themselves by smoking they just don't give a hoot.

[GPGuar]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do

I sure hope that's a joke because I have seen ambassadors doing all the things posted including checking the condition of the toilets on the courses.

[Joanne19335]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do

Obviously, you don’t play on the courses I work.

GO EAGLES!!!!!

[Laidlaw193]

As an executive starter the worst thing now during the pandemic is people step over large red cones to get to the window to check in......please stay behind the cones to check in.

[rmd2]

I miss my 8-Track. :(

I love my old Camry. It came with a CD and a tape player. The CD is now jammed but the tape player still works :)

[PugMom]

I miss my 8-Track. :(

i STILL have some as a keepsake, sabbath & dead, lol

[kimgarwel12@gmail.com]

We pretty much only play the executive courses and our ambassadors (south of 44) do a bang-up job of cleaning up the tee boxes/greens, repairing holes and divots. And yes, we're seeing a large number of cig butts AND cigars, especially on the Fox courses in Fenney. Nasty business for sure! Pick up your own garbage, people!!

[dadoiron]

As an ambassador who works executive and championship courses, I frequently find cigarette butts (some still burning) on tee boxes and around the greens. Part of my job is to clear away the broken tees, trash that may have blown onto the tee boxes and greens and filling divots as well as fixing fresh ball marks on the greens. I have noticed that over the past year, the number of cigarette butts discarded on the tee boxes has increased significantly. Besides being a health issue, this type of unnecessary trash is disgusting. Is it too much to ask that smokers buy a small ashtray to put in their carts and not discard their butts on the course? Ambassadors are responsible for regular "clean-up" before and after the golfers play. Please be considerate, not only to your fellow golfers, but to the workers and maintenance staff. We want your golf experience to be enjoyable for everyone.

If you see them doing so they should be admonished and blocked from scheduling golf for a least month if you can't fine them and hit their pockets or pocketbooks.

[jmcote]

Disgusting habit, after watching my beloved father die of lung cancer I will never understand how someone can knowingly kill them self?

If you've never been hooked on tobacco you'll never get it.

[stanley]

If you've never been hooked on tobacco you'll never get it.

Feb 10th was my 17 yr anniversary quitting after almost thirty years of smoking. Looking back it was actually pretty easy to quit

[Pairadocs]

Wife watched her father die from lung cancer took a long time and was not pretty to watch She had not been able to quit before but quit the day he died 20years ago hasn't smoked since

Great but, unusual. The human brain & emotions has the ability to to actually experiences this, and yet, deny.... self says, "yes, it's real and awful, but.... the odds are it will NOT happen to me !

[DARFAP]

Not true any more

[williams1951]

It’s a very hard habit to stop! Both my Mom and Dad smoked. My Mom quite 50 years ago. She turns 101 in May!! My Dad died 20 years ago of cancer. 3 years ago I quite. I never thought I would, but I just felt I had to. I took Chantex for only 5 days!! I had it in my mind that it was time to stop. I wish a lot more people would try to stop. I can breath, taste and smell things like I haven’t in a long time. I just wish that people would try to stop drinking. It not only makes a lot of people mean, but they are killing people driving.

[John_W]

It’s a very hard habit to stop! Both my Mom and Dad smoked. My Mom quite 50 years ago. She turns 101 in May!! My Dad died 20 years ago of cancer. 3 years ago I quite. I never thought I would, but I just felt I had to. I took Chantex for only 5 days!! I had it in my mind that it was time to stop. I wish a lot more people would try to stop. I can breath, taste and smell things like I haven’t in a long time. I just wish that people would try to stop drinking. It not only makes a lot of people mean, but they are killing people driving.

My dad only smoked a couple of years while in the Navy during WWII and he died of lung cancer in 2004 at age 76. I smoked for 35 years but quit using Chantix in 2005, without the drug I don't think I could of quit on my own. I had tried twice before for six months each by riding a bicycle every morning when I felt like I needed my first cigarette, but it never lasted. I started Chantix on a Thursday and by Sunday I had run out cigarettes and quit. I finished the 30 days of pills but that was the end, the nightmares were very bad I couldn't take anymore. That was 15 years ago.

It's very addicting habit, nobody will understand who hadn't smoked. The funny thing was I didn't smoke in high school or 2 years at St. Pete JC, it wasn't until I was 20 and in the Army and overseas in Korea that I started. Initially it was only at night when I was at the NCO Club and I borrow a cigarette. Since cigarettes were only 17 cents a pack, somebody once said, why don't you just buy a pack there so cheap. That was the beginning.

[Catalina36]

No, unfortunately the new cars and older cars do not have ash trays! I have a 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. No ashtray!

[Catalina36]

Good for you, best thing you ever did for your health was to quit smoking.
Oh and Thank You for your Service to our Great Country. Thumbs Up

[wsachs]

Those people were probably never in basic training. We were all taught how to 'field strip' a cigarette and put the filter/paper in our pockets to dispose of later. Throwing a butt on the ground would get you 50 push-ups and/or a two mile hike.

[dewilson58]

And the damn cigars! And watch your masks, they are as much of a problem as the cigars and cigarette butts! Disgusting!
Cigars are biodegradable. Not saying they should be dropped on the ground, but real cigars are biodegradable.

[stanley]

Cigars are biodegradable. Not saying they should be dropped on the ground, but real cigars are biodegradable.

Does that really matter on a golf course? Does that make it right?

[dewilson58]

Does that really matter on a golf course? Does that make it right?
Did you read the entire post???.................No. Just sharing information. Lighten up.

[Shadia328]

Thank you, this drives me crazy!! We live in a beautiful place, and the butts are nasty. I do a lot of walking, and see many butts that have been tossed from carts.😡

[stanley]

Did you read the entire post???.................No. Just sharing information. Lighten up.

Cigars being biodegradable is a non issue, why bring it up? Me thinks someone took the issue of cigars personal

[dewilson58]

Cigars being biodegradable is a non issue, why bring it up? Me thinks someone took the issue of cigars personal
Duh.


The topic was cigarette butts.
You brought up cigars.
Cigar do not hurt the environment like cig's.
That's why bring it up.


Understand??
Did I talk slow enough??


:MOJE_whot:

[stanley]

Duh.


The topic was cigarette butts.
You brought up cigars.
Cigar do not hurt the environment like cig's.
That's why bring it up.


Understand??
Did I talk slow enough??


:MOJE_whot:

DUH!!! The .....cigar..... problem ....."on..... the..... golf ......course" ........is.......just...... as...... bad ......as...... the..... cigarette.......problem ......."on...... the ......golf ....... course",..... .....that's....... why....... I.....,. brought...... it....... up............am ....."I"...... speaking...... slow...... enough.... for.... ...."you"?

It sure doesn't take much to offend some people.:pray:

[dewilson58]

DUH!!! The .....cigar..... problem ....."on..... the..... golf ......course" ........is.......just...... as...... bad ......as...... the..... cigarette.......problem ......."on...... the ......golf ....... course",..... .....that's....... why....... I.....,. brought...... it....... up............am ....."I"...... speaking...... slow...... enough.... for.... ...."you"?It sure doesn't take much to offend some people.
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[I'm Popeye!]

It's time for your meds Guys!

[banjobob]

I had the same experience , quit that day 38 years ago.

[Chi-Town]

When I see cigarette butts on the golf course I get the feeling there must be a correlation between smoking and I.Q.

[Florida17]

Maybe people could fix their ball marks and rake their foot prints in traps too...

[Bay Kid]

Maybe people could fix their ball marks and rake their foot prints in traps too...

They could hide their butts in the sand trap as they rake. Not a chance.

[gpkk_2000]

I appreciate the ambassadors and the work they do, thank them all the time. If your remark was to them, shame on you.

[dhdallas]

Get your carry permit and strap up! That will make the litterbugs take notice that there is a new sheriff in town!

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/dhdallas-118996/albums/pro-2nd-amendment/9197-shooting-vs-golf.jpg

[RosemarySoso]

I even have seen cigarette butts on the greens!!! Rude and disgusting!

[mtoneff]

I thought the only thing ambassador’s do was ride around. I have never seen an ambassador doing the things u say u r supposed to do
We love our ambassadors. They contribute to making it all work.

[mtoneff]

As an ambassador who works executive and championship courses, I frequently find cigarette butts (some still burning) on tee boxes and around the greens. Part of my job is to clear away the broken tees, trash that may have blown onto the tee boxes and greens and filling divots as well as fixing fresh ball marks on the greens. I have noticed that over the past year, the number of cigarette butts discarded on the tee boxes has increased significantly. Besides being a health issue, this type of unnecessary trash is disgusting. Is it too much to ask that smokers buy a small ashtray to put in their carts and not discard their butts on the course? Ambassadors are responsible for regular "clean-up" before and after the golfers play. Please be considerate, not only to your fellow golfers, but to the workers and maintenance staff. We want your golf experience to be enjoyable for everyone.
Well my friend. As you can tell from the reply's. You have people with some portion of their brain left and others that have lost a majority of their senses. If you call yourself a golfer , the game of golf is like a lady. She will not be tamed but demands respect. Because when she gives her best back to you , it makes you shine on the inside and will encourage you to come back and visit her again. For the people who smoke I agree you have the right to kill yourself if you want. But please understand , you stink around people who don't smoke and we do not want to see your garbage on the ground. To all ambassadors. Anytime you work for the public , you are always going to be criticized by some. Its the way people are today. I for one really enjoy golf here and I thank anyone that makes that happen.

[tallmanf]

Most smoker are lazy and filthy. They just throw butts down, as if it’s not litter. I have even seen them empty ashtrays in parking lots.

[Joanne19335]

Well my friend. As you can tell from the reply's. You have people with some portion of their brain left and others that have lost a majority of their senses. If you call yourself a golfer , the game of golf is like a lady. She will not be tamed but demands respect. Because when she gives her best back to you , it makes you shine on the inside and will encourage you to come back and visit her again. For the people who smoke I agree you have the right to kill yourself if you want. But please understand , you stink around people who don't smoke and we do not want to see your garbage on the ground. To all ambassadors. Anytime you work for the public , you are always going to be criticized by some. Its the way people are today. I for one really enjoy golf here and I thank anyone that makes that happen.

As the OP, your post is sincerely appreciated. I learned long ago that you cannot please everyone. When golfers say, “Thanks for what you do”, my day is made so much better. When I see a golfer filling a divot, I always thank him or her for being considerate. I smile at and wave to everyone I can. Maybe that smile will make their day a little better as well. Although I can fight my own battles, we are prohibited from becoming involved if things heat up. Our authority goes only so far. I am happy to say that I had to call my manager only once in the past year.

[RickThole]

I’m a ambassador to and 97% of golfers don’t fix divots on the greens and tee box’s

[stanley]

As the OP, your post is sincerely appreciated. I learned long ago that you cannot please everyone. When golfers say, “Thanks for what you do”, my day is made so much better. When I see a golfer filling a divot, I always thank him or her for being considerate. I smile at and wave to everyone I can. Maybe that smile will make their day a little better as well. Although I can fight my own battles, we are prohibited from becoming involved if things heat up. Our authority goes only so far. I am happy to say that I had to call my manager only once in the past year.

We used to be able to give out good golf rewards, I gave quite a few to golfers that showed love of the game and care for the courses.

[dewilson58]

I’m a ambassador to and 97% of golfers don’t fix divots on the greens and tee box’s
You lose credibility with a percentage like that...............unless you have documented proof over a period of time. :shocked:

[almyers]

I was an ambassador and I found gum just as disgusting, plus it sticks to your shoes and tracks into your cart.

[John_W]

I had new wood floors installed in September by the Floor Shoppe, about every two hours all four installers went out front and smoked a cigarette. They were all hard workers, but it seems like nothing has changed.

It's not just the younger people, almost everytime I go to Walgreens I see a senior, usually a woman, buying 2 packs of cigarettes, and it's not the same woman, and it's not the same Walgreens.

[Topspinmo]

Wife watched her father die from lung cancer took a long time and was not pretty to watch She had not been able to quit before but quit the day he died 20years ago hasn't smoked since

I had two family member die from lung cancer. Horrible to go through and helpless watch. Luckily, for me I quit when I was 21 after watching them die.

[Topspinmo]

It's time for your meds Guys!


Or smoke break!

[Topspinmo]

If they have smoked entire adult life, why quit now? It’s not like quitting will give them extra years, let them enjoy one of the lifelong habitats. But I agree pick up your butts, not just on the course, but around ponds, residents property, and the road

Remember Yul Brynner last words?

[Topspinmo]

That's a bunch of crap and you know it. Smoking in view of public while on whatever shift is not allowed. I know a few guys that have gotten reprimanded for it. Some people need to STFU when it comes to talking crap, and believing they know what the staff's duties are.


If it’s not allowed, why did they get reprimanded? Just saying.....

[tophcfa]

Cigars are biodegradable. Not saying they should be dropped on the ground, but real cigars are biodegradable.

Most quality cigars are rolled in tobacco leaves grown where I grew up, in the fertile farmlands of the Connecticut river valley in western Massachusetts and Northern Connecticut.

[Topspinmo]

No, unfortunately the new cars and older cars do not have ash trays! I have a 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. No ashtray!

My 64 olds Starfire had ash trays in dash, both sides of back seat side panels. And I think in the console? Prettiest car I have owned to date, deep red Maroon with white leather, interior lite up like Christmas tree.

[stanley]

If it’s not allowed, why did they get reprimanded? Just saying.....

Could you elaborate please? Pretty silly question.
Just saying

[GoBeau]

Unfortunately, some not all smokers believe it’s there right to just dispose of their cigarette butts where ever they like. Out the Windows of their vehicles, on the MM paths out of their carts, on the ground while they walk in parking lots, parks, sidewalks, anywhere but in their ashtrays. It’s up to all the golfers out there that golf with someone who smokes to let them know to not throw their butts on the courses. Tell them, bring a can, plastic container and bring your butts out to a garbage can. All over The Villages and all golf courses whether Executives or Championship have garbage cans all over the place. Course workers and Ambassadors need to also be supported by management to allow them to warn golfers if they see them dispose of their butts on the courses, It comes down to respecting the environment, course workers and other golfers. The original poster is bang on, is it too much to ask the smokers to keep their butts to themselves. Everyone needs to voice their opinions and let their golf buddies know that they need to take their butts with them. Have a GREAT day everyone. Thanks

[Topspinmo]

Could you elaborate please? Pretty silly question.
Just saying

If they knowingly knew it wasn’t allowed and the did it anyway IMO reason for dismissal! Not reprimanded.

[stanley]

If they knowingly knew it wasn’t allowed and the did it anyway IMO reason for dismissal! Not reprimanded.

"Reprimanded" I guess was too strong of a word, It was discussed with those involved. They were fairly new and didn't know, it wasn't a point of discussion in training. It should be common sense as far as I'm concerned though