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molddude
02-21-2021, 05:32 PM
My wife my wife and I have been looking for a pre-existing home on a golf site lot and we're wondering is there any possibility that the golf course, especially a championship course, could be sold for something else in the future? Would love to hear people's thoughts.
A friend of ours in Orlando was just told that they are discontinuing the golf course which he sits upon.

gatorbill1
02-21-2021, 05:40 PM
championship courses are owned by developer, who we never thought would tear down a country club to build apartments - sooo

executives are owned by cdd, so very much unlikely to change

retiredguy123
02-21-2021, 06:04 PM
Life is too short. I wouldn't worry about it.

villagetinker
02-21-2021, 07:33 PM
Molddude, do a search on this site for comments regarding golf course and for that matter water view lots. While there were both positive and negative comments, the one that sticks out is these are subject to CHANGE. We have a lot with a very nice view to the rear, we traded the concept of a kissing lanai for a road. Yes we have some road noise nothing unbearable, even with the sliders open. We have lots of privacy, the people going by have to keep their eyes on the road. The house on the other side are villas, behind a very nice 7 foot wall. My point is depending on what you are looking for there are alternatives.
Be sure to look at the comments I mentioned above, there are probably several you may not have thought of.

John_W
02-21-2021, 09:06 PM
I don't know what golf course course lots sell for now, probably $175K. In my village in 2011 on Odessa Circle lots fronting an executive, Yankee Clipper sold for $135K and they sold out within a year. I'm sure a championship course like Cane Garden five minutes down the road, if the developer decided to build homes on the fairway, I'm sure there would several lawsuits filed immediately if this was attempted.

If the developer needed to sell something else, for one he owns 2700 acres on his compound on the northside of 466 between the polo fields on the west side and Tierra Del Sol on the east. There was talk a couple of years ago they would buy a 10 acre horse farm NW of TV and develop that land. I have seen two of the homes on the compound sell within the last couple of years, one included a couple of acres and other included about ten acres, they sold for a couple of million a piece. They had entrances directly off 466, so the owners wouldn't have to come through the rest of the property to reach their home.

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/search/the+villages+golf+carts+in+the+villages/@28.9325295,-81.9903579,3127m/data=!3m1!1e3)


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molddude
02-21-2021, 10:00 PM
We currently live at the beach and my wife is letting me move to the Villages. I am taking her view away and have to give her something. lol
I know the water view lots are"temporary", just look at the Google Earth pictures and you can see. I will do a little research as you suggested thanks

Altavia
02-21-2021, 10:36 PM
Seems low risk given 46 holes of new Championship golf is planned south of the Turnpike.

tophcfa
02-21-2021, 11:18 PM
Look no further than Hacienda Hills. The hit you in the head message is BUYER BEWARE. One would no be considered smart to even consider paying a premium to buy a lot/home on a Championship Course after the very dangerous president has been established. Today’s golf course view can very quickly become tomorrow’s view of a multi story rental apartment complex. Good luck with that : (

mike1946
02-22-2021, 05:48 AM
Take a look at the Historic side ...many new properties replacing older manufactured ...lots with great views !!

Rwirish
02-22-2021, 05:54 AM
Anything is possible.

Neils
02-22-2021, 06:05 AM
Very unlikely to change in my opinion.
Golf courses are TV number 1 selling attraction.

taylor111947
02-22-2021, 06:13 AM
There are no guarantees that the view you have today will be there tomorrow. It’s a chance you take.
Having said that - check out VLS#232390 - great Executive golf course view of Southern Star and a pool situated on a cul-de-sac.

molddude
02-22-2021, 06:19 AM
A nice house, a little out of my price range

Ginsanders
02-22-2021, 06:34 AM
We just sold our home on Silverlake golf course and had water frontage. Silverlake will be rebuilt starting this summer. We were told after 25-30 years a golf course needs to be redone. They tossed around the idea of putt and play, but a petition was signed by homeowners and golfers to keep it an executive course. They will have the NEW executive course completed by end of this year. We loved the view, but golf cart traffic behind our home constantly got old. We now have a more private, quiet backyard. Hooper you find what your looking for.

golfing eagles
02-22-2021, 06:50 AM
My wife my wife and I have been looking for a pre-existing home on a golf site lot and we're wondering is there any possibility that the golf course, especially a championship course, could be sold for something else in the future? Would love to hear people's thoughts.
A friend of ours in Orlando was just told that they are discontinuing the golf course which he sits upon.

Seriously, however, it is unlikely. Besides providing recreation for golfers, the golf courses are built as drainage to prevent flooding in residential areas and also have an abundance of environmental areas. I very much doubt they would start building on them, especially with all the new lands they have acquired south of 44

MandoMan
02-22-2021, 06:56 AM
My wife my wife and I have been looking for a pre-existing home on a golf site lot and we're wondering is there any possibility that the golf course, especially a championship course, could be sold for something else in the future? Would love to hear people's thoughts.
A friend of ours in Orlando was just told that they are discontinuing the golf course which he sits upon.

In brief, the golf courses are all crucial to The Village's outstanding flood control design. They flood before houses flood, and when it rains, they soak up and grain away huge amounts of water. That’s why the houses don’t flood. If the golf courses were replaced with houses, the water control system would be damaged. So it isn’t going to happen. Don’t worry about it. Just because a country club is torn down doesn’t mean the golf course is closing. It’s still there.

JanaR
02-22-2021, 07:18 AM
Hi,
What price range are you looking in?I can help you find it.
Thanks,
Jana

molddude
02-22-2021, 07:26 AM
Under 500K

golfing eagles
02-22-2021, 07:28 AM
Under 500K

Rotsa ruck

richs631
02-22-2021, 07:44 AM
My wife my wife and I have been looking for a pre-existing home on a golf site lot and we're wondering is there any possibility that the golf course, especially a championship course, could be sold for something else in the future? Would love to hear people's thoughts.
A friend of ours in Orlando was just told that they are discontinuing the golf course which he sits upon.

Just an FYI. Most golf courses in the villages are golf courses because the land is not buildable due to easements, tension wires, drainage fields and unstable soil. The engineering in the Villages is great. If I was in the market for a golf course lot I would not be worried. But then again a great lawyer once told me
“It would never happen in a million years”. Well guess what?

M2inOR
02-22-2021, 07:58 AM
There are 2 homes in our fairly new Marsh Bend neighborhood surrounded by holes 1, 2, 7, 8, and 9 of the Lowlands executive course. This new home has a view of the pond on the 2nd hole fairway and tee box.
Share This Home https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/#/S25V.46

Over the last 2 years when lots were available, some we're snapped up minutes after being listed, and sold for almost $300K. Yes, just the lot!

There's one other resale in the neighborhood for $785K.

Use The Villages app to find many, many possible options. New and resale homes, as well as a few buildable lots south of 44.

Villages Kahuna
02-22-2021, 08:02 AM
Golf is a decidedly less popular sport among younger people. Courses and clubs are closing and going out of business at an alarming rate up north. It will be those people with less interest in the sport that will be moving to The Villages. You can figure out an answer to your question.

molddude
02-22-2021, 08:10 AM
You are correct, about the closing of courses up North, but the subset of people coming to the Villages should be a much higher in favor of golf. Maybe 50-50 who like golf vs a normal 90-10 ratio.

toeser
02-22-2021, 08:18 AM
There are no guarantees that the view you have today will be there tomorrow. It’s a chance you take.
Having said that - check out VLS#232390 - great Executive golf course view of Southern Star and a pool situated on a cul-de-sac. ������

That's an awfully small house for that kind of money. It looks like most of that money is going for view.

wamley
02-22-2021, 08:56 AM
Take a look at what is happening to Hacienda. The outcome is not know yet, but the Club House is gone.

wamley
02-22-2021, 08:58 AM
No regulation Golf Courses built south of 44. ?????

M2inOR
02-22-2021, 09:13 AM
No regulation Golf Courses built south of 44. ?????

There is a new Championship Course being constructed south of 44 near the Sawgrass Grove area. This is a course that will NOT have a club house.

There are several videos and articles on The Villages website as well as articles in the Daily Sun newspaper.

Other videos and articles show potential plans for 2 more Championship courses on the west side of the turnpike, south of Monarch Grove which is also south of 44. Very few details for these at the present time.

Don Wiley also has several videos and commentary at his GoldWingNut YouTube channel.

Stu from NYC
02-22-2021, 09:38 AM
Golf is a decidedly less popular sport among younger people. Courses and clubs are closing and going out of business at an alarming rate up north. It will be those people with less interest in the sport that will be moving to The Villages. You can figure out an answer to your question.

Thinking the same thing. Might be safe for next 20 years but if they ever stop building new homes down south they might decide a few less golf course will be needed for residents.

Bogie Shooter
02-22-2021, 09:57 AM
Thinking the same thing. Might be safe for next 20 years but if they ever stop building new homes down south they might decide a few less golf course will be needed for residents.

And then what would be done with the water during a tropical storm?:shrug:

DAVES
02-22-2021, 09:57 AM
I don't know what golf course course lots sell for now, probably $175K. In my village in 2011 on Odessa Circle lots fronting an executive, Yankee Clipper sold for $135K and they sold out within a year. I'm sure a championship course like Cane Garden five minutes down the road, if the developer decided to build homes on the fairway, I'm sure there would several lawsuits filed immediately if this was attempted.

If the developer needed to sell something else, for one he owns 2700 acres on his compound on the northside of 466 between the polo fields on the west side and Tierra Del Sol on the east. There was talk a couple of years ago they would buy a 10 acre horse farm NW of TV and develop that land. I have seen two of the homes on the compound sell within the last couple of years, one included a couple of acres and other included about ten acres, they sold for a couple of million a piece. They had entrances directly off 466, so the owners wouldn't have to come through the rest of the property to reach their home.

Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/search/the+villages+golf+carts+in+the+villages/@28.9325295,-81.9903579,3127m/data=!3m1!1e3)


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I recently through a friend that I regularly stay in touch with was contacted by someone we both knew. He along with his brother purchased and live on 168 wild acres in North Carolina. Each own half of it. Sounds great, till I think. Work? Security? People trespassing? Etc Etc Etc. Far different than the choice I/we have made. You can choose to be happy or not anywhere.

bilcon
02-22-2021, 10:20 AM
They didn't tear up the golf course at Hacienda Hills, so your view is still there. Don't worry. We have lived on an executive course for 11 years and even though we have to put up with some (very few) rude golfers who think they own the private property along the course, we love it. Sunsets every night, great 180 degree views, no noisy or nosey neighbors, and a pool. We enjoy talking to the golfers and serve champagne if we see anyone get a hole-in-one. Only happened 2 times in 11 years at our hole. Don't worry about the golf course closing. They got enough vacant land to build .

Daddymac
02-22-2021, 10:39 AM
In brief, the golf courses are all crucial to The Village's outstanding flood control design. They flood before houses flood, and when it rains, they soak up and grain away huge amounts of water. That’s why the houses don’t flood. If the golf courses were replaced with houses, the water control system would be damaged. So it isn’t going to happen. Don’t worry about it. Just because a country club is torn down doesn’t mean the golf course is closing. It’s still there.

WRONG. Drainage, and pumps. Taking care of now!
:boom::welcome:

stanley
02-22-2021, 10:59 AM
WRONG. Drainage, and pumps. Taking care of now!
:boom::welcome:

Where do they pump the water?........where does the drainage go?

JohnN
02-22-2021, 11:09 AM
never say never

but it's very unlikely you'd lose your golf course view.

Bogie Shooter
02-22-2021, 11:15 AM
WRONG. Drainage, and pumps. Taking care of now!
:boom::welcome:

WOW! Opinion or ?

Don Ferguson
02-22-2021, 11:22 AM
I agree with the assumption that there is only a miniscule chance that any golf course will disappear in our lifetimes.

However I can vouch for one danger. We paid an additional $60,000 lot premium for "water view". (I live on blue tee box, #2 hole, Erin Glenn nine, Nancy Lopez course.) There is a large pond visible from almost anywhere in the home. For five years it was beautiful and worth every cent. Then it developed a sink hole. Instead of pouring cement into the "throat" and actually fix it, during every dry season, the developer put three loads of sand into the same hole, every year for ten years. Then the developer said the heck with it and left an ugly hole full of weeds and mud.

If you check your deed, the developer has included the fact that any lot premium, charged for your specific view, IS NOT GUARANTEED to remain.

stebooo
02-22-2021, 11:42 AM
Can we spell hacienda? Haven't heard selling the course but the developer does own them.

Villagesgal
02-22-2021, 12:34 PM
Look no further than Hacienda Hills. The hit you in the head message is BUYER BEWARE. One would no be considered smart to even consider paying a premium to buy a lot/home on a Championship Course after the very dangerous president has been established. Today’s golf course view can very quickly become tomorrow’s view of a multi story rental apartment complex. Good luck with that : (

The golf course is still a golf course, the country club building, pool and golf shop will now be apartments, not the golf courses. So, buy on a championship golf course but away from the country club building and pool and you'll be fine.

vintageogauge
02-22-2021, 01:32 PM
No regulation Golf Courses built south of 44. ?????

Wrong. They are building one south of 44 as we speak and it has been under construction for a few months at least. It was just noted in the paper today that they started on the maintenance building for it. There is also at least one more going in, one of them is 18 holes and the other is 27, don't know which is which.

jmcica@aol.com
02-22-2021, 02:58 PM
Molddude, do a search on this site for comments regarding golf course and for that matter water view lots. While there were both positive and negative comments, the one that sticks out is these are subject to CHANGE. We have a lot with a very nice view to the rear, we traded the concept of a kissing lanai for a road. Yes we have some road noise nothing unbearable, even with the sliders open. We have lots of privacy, the people going by have to keep their eyes on the road. The house on the other side are villas, behind a very nice 7 foot wall. My point is depending on what you are looking for there are alternatives.
Be sure to look at the comments I mentioned above, there are probably several you may not have thought of.
Hello- i have tried to search - perhaps I am in wring place but I have tried to
Goto Menu>Search>Search forums
I put in a word in the box that is there and I get nothing??
Would you kindly give me steps to take?
TY

John_W
02-22-2021, 03:25 PM
Hello- i have tried to search - perhaps I am in wring place but I have tried to
Goto Menu>Search>Search forums
I put in a word in the box that is there and I get nothing??
Would you kindly give me steps to take?
TY

The way I search is click on the box at the top of this page that is labeled 'search', don't need no menu, and when the search page comes up, type in search words you're looking for on the box on the left side, it will say 'keywords'. Don't bother with selecting the forum or anything else.

Another way that works even better sometimes is using google, it will work on any website or message board.

Go to google, my chrome browser is google search, so I just type in the address bar of the browser, it's automatically connected to google search. Type in 'talkofthevillages.com: and then what you're searching for' and hit enter.

Here's the search page on this site

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/search.php

Goodi70
02-22-2021, 04:16 PM
I golf Mira Mesa on ladies day and have seen for sale signs on a couple of the properties facing that course. No idea of pricing, but they look to be in nice locations and good condition.

Pmarlow
02-22-2021, 04:37 PM
Under 500K

Do you realize that the Villages charges a lot premium of around &300k for a golf course frontage lot? If you find a house for $500k it will be in real bad shape.

John_W
02-22-2021, 05:12 PM
Do you realize that the Villages charges a lot premium of around &300k for a golf course frontage lot? If you find a house for $500k it will be in real bad shape.

That's the current prices, every year they have gone up. In 2011 in the village where I live, Tamarind Grove, the golf course lots on Southern Star Executve were $135K extra. Most of the homes on Odessa Circle which is where the lots are located, sell in the $500K to $550K range. These homes are slightly less than ten years old, yet are only 3-1/2 miles from LSL and 3-1/2 miles from Brownwood, and have 7 championship golf courses within a 20 minute golf cart ride, and Glenview is 25 minutes and Lopez is 40 minutes. There are 16 executive courses within a 15 golf cart ride. Can't ask for better.

When these home were new in 2011 on Odessa Circle, there was 88 lots and they surrounded Southern Star Executive course. About half were on the golf course and about half were non golf course lots up against the villa walls. Many of the homes were spec built by the developer because homes were selling so quickly in 2011, they couldn't hardly keep up with the demand. The non-golf course homes when new sold in the $250K to $325K range, and the homes on the golf course sold in the $325K to $425K range.

If you try and find one now, there is currently just one home for sale on Southern Star Executive, and that home has every option available. It's also the most expensive home I've seen in my ten years for sale in Tamarind Grove. They're asking $729K, but it has the golf course frontage, birdcage pool and every other upgrade available. Without the pool and without so many extras, you can find homes in the $500K range quite often on Odessa Circle on the golf course, and also in Buttonwood on the three executive courses they have. Here's that listing so you have an idea of where Odessa Circle is located.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S156.33?preowned&lng=-81.99137069172009&lat=28.876020044081642&lvl=4)

Pairadocs
02-22-2021, 07:35 PM
Life is too short. I wouldn't worry about it.


For exactly the same reason, I would "worry" about it.... not actually "worry", but certainly give careful thought to the process (interesting comment on country club courses vrs. executive courses might be worth consideration). We built in the estates community of our country club in Illinois many years ago. Fortunately, we enjoyed our location on the golf course, ability to view tournaments from our screened deck, etc. But, one day we, and our neighbors in that section, got the "news" that the championship course we were on was to be "repurposed" (?) to "luxury" country estates condos with an HOA so high it even covered the substantial annual country club dues, as well as other amenities. Although we moved before the the monstrosity was built, leaving one championship course and two executive 9 hole layouts, the value of our property, and the "view" of this to be high rise "luxury" building (the term was to fool the idiots into thinking this would enhance their property values...LOL !) But, we "lost" approximately $100K in "value" when we were not longer on one of the championship courses of our club. This is YOUR retirement dream, the only one you get, choose carefully, as someone noted above, how would those who bought lots and built homes near the beautiful Hacienda Hill CC, course, pool, spa, and dining room ever guess they would be facing a multi-age, multi-income, high rise... money does indeed
TALK. Some here used to gaze on peaceful, soothing, buffalo herds grazing, now while some would not like that, many did, they now gaze at the block backs of buildings and plazas... choose carefully, you can't dodge ALL the bullets ever, but do your home work as best you can !







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haysus7
02-22-2021, 10:24 PM
you will never be home and sunsets are a reason to get outside and enjoy

chet2020
02-23-2021, 12:16 AM
Seriously, however, it is unlikely. Besides providing recreation for golfers, the golf courses are built as drainage to prevent flooding in residential areas and also have an abundance of environmental areas. I very much doubt they would start building on them, especially with all the new lands they have acquired south of 44

I agree with this. And to add, TV is hanging on by their fingernails in terms of having enough golf courses for residents, at least in peak season. They'd be nuts to sacrifice a golf course for housing. Not to mention it would be expensive. They'd have to reconfigure streets, water mains, etc., I don't see it.

Joanne19335
02-23-2021, 05:54 AM
We currently live at the beach and my wife is letting me move to the Villages. I am taking her view away and have to give her something. lol
I know the water view lots are"temporary", just look at the Google Earth pictures and you can see. I will do a little research as you suggested thanks

Nothing is permanent. Diamonds are forever. 😁

molddude
02-23-2021, 07:23 AM
Thanks to everyone for their opinions! We were up in TV on Monday and looked a number of homes. Have not pulled the trigger yet, but stay tuned. We do have the paralysis of analysis technique , but we settle on March 5, 2021 (some rent back) so they will throw us out soon......LOL

J1ceasar
02-23-2021, 07:31 AM
You should enjoy life purchase something you like and don't worry about it. if you can afford $500 to $700,000 for a house on a golf course. Then if they decide to develop it really doesn't matter if you lose 50 or 100,000 10 years from today because all your home values will have going up. And even if it doesn't you'll just sell and move somewhere else that's what people do in life. Meanwhile you have had 10 years of a great retirement. Welcome to Central Florida home of zero income taxes lots of golf and lots of golf carts

nevjudbaker
02-23-2021, 09:39 AM
It happened when we lived in Palm Coast. Matanzas Woods golf course was closed & it turned into weeds. I don't know what they did with the land. It happens quite often if there is no money to keep the course open.
They had 4 golf courses. When you joined your membership included all 4 courses. You paid one time initial fee. The courses were sold. They closed Matanzas Woods, another the City purchased & made it into a public golf course. Your membership was stopped. If you wanted to join a course you had to put down another one time initial fee.
You never know. Housing developments with minimum 3 acres size can be turned into a townhouse complex just by changing the restrictions on the property. Look at a project as large as the pipeline just shutdown with an executive order.

My wife my wife and I have been looking for a pre-existing home on a golf site lot and we're wondering is there any possibility that the golf course, especially a championship course, could be sold for something else in the future? Would love to hear people's thoughts.
A friend of ours in Orlando was just told that they are discontinuing the golf course which he sits upon.

jimjamuser
02-23-2021, 10:16 AM
Very unlikely to change in my opinion.
Golf courses are TV number 1 selling attraction.
I read that younger people are losing interest in golf.

justjim
02-23-2021, 10:19 AM
In the Leesburg area of Silver Lake, a Country Club and course closed a few years ago. There were nice homes around the course. It’s now a goat grazing area. It can happen. That said, I’m not saying that’s going to happen here in The Villages (not during our lifetime) and would take “book” on that.

dewilson58
02-23-2021, 10:20 AM
I read that younger people are losing interest in golf.
Currently.
When we were young, many Boomers were too busy to golf.
So many Villagers have taken up golf at retirement.


IF the demand changes, it will be after we are gone.
(don't forget all the "i can't get a tee time" threads)

stebooo
02-23-2021, 11:16 AM
Idevelioer thinks in years to come it will decrease. Someone charted championship courses built north middle and south . The curve shows steady decline .

dewilson58
02-23-2021, 11:31 AM
Idevelioer thinks in years to come it will decrease. Someone charted championship courses built north middle and south . The curve shows steady decline .
Who??

vintageogauge
02-23-2021, 11:31 AM
I read that younger people are losing interest in golf.

My two sons and I belonged to 3 different country clubs up north, they all have more members now than when I belonged and most of the new members are in their 30's and 40's with them come their kids taking lessons and getting on the kids leagues. It's still a great industry in most areas of the country.

Joe V.
02-23-2021, 11:35 AM
Idevelioer thinks in years to come it will decrease. Someone charted championship courses built north middle and south . The curve shows steady decline .

Never heard of the guy.

villagerjack
02-23-2021, 04:17 PM
If the value of a GC lot is $300,000 or so then What is the value of a Courtyard Villa Lot fronting on the Golf Course....with water...Does it matter if it is Championship or Executive?

Not many for sale between 466 and 44

John_W
02-23-2021, 05:00 PM
If the value of a GC lot is $300,000 or so then What is the value of a Courtyard Villa Lot fronting on the Golf Course....with water...Does it matter if it is Championship or Executive?

Not many for sale between 466 and 44

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/?preowned&series=2&homesite=Golf%20View%20Site&lng=-81.98404195182215&lat=28.896269257241258&lvl=3)

There are 2 CYVs for sale on a golf course lot between 466 and 44, one is $289K in Belvedere and the other $364K in Mallory Square.

There are 2 between 466 and 42 and there is 1 below 44, that one is in McClure and has a 2 car garage and is $354K.

John_W
02-23-2021, 05:00 PM
As far as golf, the demand is still there. We got zipped on a teetime request for this Friday. A threesome for championship between 11:56 and 0115 on 8 courses submitted Saturday and we got nothing. We could jump on times for Hacienda Hills or Orange Blossom, but in the afternoon coming back, it's a long drive from the southside after playing 18. It's 45 minutes cart ride just to SS square, I have yet to play HH, I have played Tierra Del Sol a couple of times, and honestly, I much rather play the local area than drive that far for that course, Cane Garden and Bonifay are two of my favorites, if I could only get on them. Saturday & Sunday times aren't as bad, it seems everybody wants to play Friday.


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villagerjack
02-23-2021, 05:53 PM
Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/?preowned&series=2&homesite=Golf%20View%20Site&lng=-81.98404195182215&lat=28.896269257241258&lvl=3)

There are 2 CYVs for sale on a golf course lot between 466 and 44, one is $289K in Belvedere and the other $364K in Mallory Square.

There are 2 between 466 and 42 and there is 1 below 44, that one is in McClure and has a 2 car garage and is $354K.

The one in Mallory is more a view of the toilet facilities than the golf course it has been on the market for a long time.
Belvedere is a good area fir shopping but a car ride rather than a golf cart ride to the squares.

Topspinmo
02-23-2021, 06:12 PM
Look no further than Hacienda Hills. The hit you in the head message is BUYER BEWARE. One would no be considered smart to even consider paying a premium to buy a lot/home on a Championship Course after the very dangerous president has been established. Today’s golf course view can very quickly become tomorrow’s view of a multi story rental apartment complex. Good luck with that : (


Who want to bet lopez and glenview on the chopping block within 10 years? Developers don’t care about north 466 sold to CDD long ago. As long as CDD puppets let them build what they want nothing off table? IMO even the holly ground Palmers!

Topspinmo
02-23-2021, 06:15 PM
As far as golf, the demand is still there. We got zipped on a teetime request for this Friday. A threesome for championship between 11:56 and 0115 on 8 courses submitted Saturday and we got nothing. We could jump on times for Hacienda Hills or Orange Blossom, but in the afternoon coming back, it's a long drive from the southside after playing 18. It's 45 minutes cart ride just to SS square, I have yet to play HH, I have played Tierra Del Sol a couple of times, and honestly, I much rather play the local area than drive that far for that course, Cane Garden and Bonifay are two of my favorites, if I could only get on them. Saturday & Sunday times aren't as bad, it seems everybody wants to play Friday.


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But, , will it be in 10 or 15 years. Yes, I know most of us will be gone by then!

jimjamuser
02-23-2021, 07:12 PM
Currently.
When we were young, many Boomers were too busy to golf.
So many Villagers have taken up golf at retirement.


IF the demand changes, it will be after we are gone.
(don't forget all the "i can't get a tee time" threads)
Yes, thanks. I guess the current crop of senior golfers in TV Land is safe from losing courses. I was thinking about the next generation of seniors who may like some different activities such as rock climbing. And from the example of pickleball having a court size of about 1/2 of a tennis court - perhaps there will be 1/2 sized golf courses in the future for seniors. Or smaller golf courses to have more holes and lower the tee time waits? Pickleball changed the face of activities in TV Land - so too some other sport or version of a current one could become popular here in the future. The future will SURELY change and mutate even for seniors.

dewilson58
02-23-2021, 07:30 PM
]Yes, thanks. I guess the current crop of senior golfers in TV Land is safe from losing courses. I was thinking about the next generation of seniors who may like some different activities such as rock climbing. And from the example of pickleball having a court size of about 1/2 of a tennis court - perhaps there will be 1/2 sized golf courses in the future for seniors. Or smaller golf courses to have more holes and lower the tee time waits? Pickleball changed the face of activities in TV Land - so too some other sport or version of a current one could become popular here in the future.[/SIZE] The future will SURELY change and mutate even for seniors.
Quit calling me Shirley.

Topspinmo
02-23-2021, 07:47 PM
Yes, thanks. I guess the current crop of senior golfers in TV Land is safe from losing courses. I was thinking about the next generation of seniors who may like some different activities such as rock climbing. And from the example of pickleball having a court size of about 1/2 of a tennis court - perhaps there will be 1/2 sized golf courses in the future for seniors. Or smaller golf courses to have more holes and lower the tee time waits? Pickleball changed the face of activities in TV Land - so too some other sport or version of a current one could become popular here in the future. The future will SURELY change and mutate even for seniors.

You can get three pickleball courts on one tennis 120 by 60 foot tennis court.

Topspinmo
02-23-2021, 07:51 PM
As far as golf, the demand is still there. We got zipped on a teetime request for this Friday. A threesome for championship between 11:56 and 0115 on 8 courses submitted Saturday and we got nothing. We could jump on times for Hacienda Hills or Orange Blossom, but in the afternoon coming back, it's a long drive from the southside after playing 18. It's 45 minutes cart ride just to SS square, I have yet to play HH, I have played Tierra Del Sol a couple of times, and honestly, I much rather play the local area than drive that far for that course, Cane Garden and Bonifay are two of my favorites, if I could only get on them. Saturday & Sunday times aren't as bad, it seems everybody wants to play Friday.


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wait few months and you knock couple widows out of the apartments on HH. :icon_wink: after all golfers not responsible for collateral damage.:1rotfl:

tophcfa
02-23-2021, 11:14 PM
Yes, thanks. I guess the current crop of senior golfers in TV Land is safe from losing courses. I was thinking about the next generation of seniors who may like some different activities such as rock climbing. And from the example of pickleball having a court size of about 1/2 of a tennis court - perhaps there will be 1/2 sized golf courses in the future for seniors. Or smaller golf courses to have more holes and lower the tee time waits? Pickleball changed the face of activities in TV Land - so too some other sport or version of a current one could become popular here in the future. The future will SURELY change and mutate even for seniors.

By the time the next generation of seniors actually become seniors most will no longer be rock climbing. Getting old has a nasty way of changing ones sporting activities. I used to be an excellent mogul skier and basketball player, but now I swim and golf because that’s what my cranky knees can tolerate. And they are already downsizing the golfing opportunities to glorified miniature golf courses that they call putt and play.

yabbadu
02-24-2021, 06:43 PM
Seems low risk given 46 holes of new Championship golf is planned south of the Turnpike.

Can you please provide names of the Championship courses. I can only find one and that is called Sawgrass which is going to be 18 holes.

So how can they make 28 holes more and where. Went through everything that has been published.

Do you mean 28 holes of extra executive style? Please advise source:welcome:

jcgrether
02-24-2021, 09:44 PM
If you haven't done so already, download The Villages App which among other things, has an inventory of existing homes for sale by the Villages Sales team. I just used the app and found 12 homes for sales with golf fronts for under $500K.

graciegirl
02-24-2021, 09:56 PM
Look no further than Hacienda Hills. The hit you in the head message is BUYER BEWARE. One would no be considered smart to even consider paying a premium to buy a lot/home on a Championship Course after the very dangerous president has been established. Today’s golf course view can very quickly become tomorrow’s view of a multi story rental apartment complex. Good luck with that : (

Hacienda Hills has been discussed ad nauseum. What would you do if you owned the property and three restaurant businesses failed and you offered the building to the folks in charge for a reasonable amount and they didn't want it. That area has quite an older population and do not go out to eat as much as younger people. I don't think having apartments is a bad thing and I have said it many times. There are less than ten homes that abut it directly and property here everywhere just becomes more expensive.

VApeople
02-24-2021, 11:14 PM
Can you please provide names of the Championship courses. I can only find one and that is called Sawgrass which is going to be 18 holes.


One of the publications put out by The Villages shows two 18-hole courses being planned just south of Monarch Grove but it did not give their names.