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alwann
02-23-2021, 02:53 PM
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.

Nucky
02-23-2021, 03:12 PM
It was nice seeing him out on the course with his son a few weeks back. While I agree that I'm sorry to see anyone get in an accident I'm going to withhold the Poor Tiger Part until the details emerge. Sorry but that's the way it works in my little world. I certainly hope he is going to be okay.

DeanFL
02-23-2021, 03:21 PM
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I'll hold judgement to "poor Tiger", until the details come out. Appears to be a single-car accident, and a very bad one destroying the SUV -seems to be a Genesis SUV, the promoter/sponsor of the last tourney in CA ending Sunday. Truly hope that it was 'one of those things' and not aggresive driving (or worse). It WAS so touching seeing him with his talented son, and was hoping for his return to the tourney et al. But alas, can only hope he recovers well with no serious impact to him.
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DARFAP
02-23-2021, 03:31 PM
Like his accident in Florida, probably involved painkillers and driving. He looked a bit sauced during his interview on TV at Riviera this past weekend. Pure speculation.

John_W
02-23-2021, 03:41 PM
According to Golf Digest:

According to a statement from the L.A. County Sherriff's Department, police responded to a “roll-over traffic collision” at approximately 7:12 a.m. “The driver and sole occupant was identified as PGA golfer, Eldrick ‘Tiger’ Woods. Mr. Woods was extricated from the wreck with the ‘jaws of life’ by Los Angeles County firefighters and paramedics, then transported to a local hospital by ambulance for his injuries.”

Woods, 45, was in California for a two-day content shoot with Golf Digest/GOLFTV after serving as host for the PGA Tour's Genesis Invitational over the weekend. Pictures surfaced on social media of Woods smiling with Dwayne Wade and David Spade at Rolling Hills Country Club on Monday, but with his movement still restricted, he did not hit balls or play any holes. The shoot involved Woods giving on-course lessons to a number of celebrities, but he mostly provided instruction and hit a few putts. He was in good spirits on Monday but did not arrive to the course for the second day of shooting because of the accident.

Velvet
02-23-2021, 04:12 PM
Didn’t he hit a fire hydrant before? Maybe he should have a driver, classy guy that he is.

mike234
02-23-2021, 04:36 PM
if I was tiger I would use the following phrase "I don't remember anything".

CWGUY
02-23-2021, 05:32 PM
Didn’t he hit a fire hydrant before? Maybe he should have a driver, classy guy that he is.

:icon_wink: I'm sure he has lots of drivers......

John_W
02-23-2021, 05:33 PM
Looks like he's in the right rough

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F1c751526-7616-11eb-9d58-b0b1ea096ce7.jpg?crop=3753%2C2502%2C0%2C0

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2056/04/Tiger-Woods-car-crash.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1

Topspinmo
02-23-2021, 05:45 PM
Didn’t he hit a fire hydrant before? Maybe he should have a driver, classy guy that he is.


Looks like Mr. Woods can’t keep it out of the ruff. Yes, he probably needs driver, or vehicle that will stay between the lines if he can’t? On positive note at 7AM maybe the sun glare got him? If anybody ever popped round corner or topped hill and the sun straight in front of you you know what I mean?

walterray1
02-23-2021, 08:25 PM
My response was to a specific reply. It did not come up that way. Better yet it applies to most of the posts on this topic. Pathetic at best.

Kenswing
02-23-2021, 08:27 PM
My response was to a specific reply. It did not come up that way. Better yet it applies to most of the posts on this topic. Pathetic at best.
Click on the "Quote post" or "Reply with Quote" button so we know who you're replying to. :coolsmiley:

Taltarzac725
02-23-2021, 08:47 PM
Sad to hear that. I will wait for more details to come out.

Buckeyephan
02-23-2021, 09:05 PM
My in-laws used to live in Rolling Hills Estates many years ago. Hawthorne Blvd is extremely steep and winds a lot. They said there were cars that couldn’t make it up the incline and they wore out brakes coming down the road. It requires paying attention at all times. Driving on a strange road with an unfamiliar car makes things even more of a challenge. Wishing him all the best for a complete recovery.

stanley
02-23-2021, 09:07 PM
Nothing to see here......move along......

Jayhawk
02-23-2021, 09:48 PM
Elin hit him 7 times with a 9-iron.

She said, "put me down for a 5."

Taltarzac725
02-23-2021, 10:10 PM
My in-laws used to live in Rolling Hills Estates many years ago. Hawthorne Blvd is extremely steep and winds a lot. They said there were cars that couldn’t make it up the incline and they wore out brakes coming down the road. It requires paying attention at all times. Driving on a strange road with an unfamiliar car makes things even more of a challenge. Wishing him all the best for a complete recovery.

Thanks for putting some empathy into this strange mix.

He is a great golfer. That's about the only known fact right now.

larbud
02-24-2021, 05:49 AM
[QUOTE=alwann;1906748]NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.[/QUOTE🤔🤔

Cobullymom
02-24-2021, 05:53 AM
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I'll hold judgement to "poor Tiger", until the details come out. Appears to be a single-car accident, and a very bad one destroying the SUV -seems to be a Genesis SUV, the promoter/sponsor of the last tourney in CA ending Sunday. Truly hope that it was 'one of those things' and not aggresive driving (or worse). It WAS so touching seeing him with his talented son, and was hoping for his return to the tourney et al. But alas, can only hope he recovers well with no serious impact to him.
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You’ll hold judgment? How about just having some empathy...period

tvbound
02-24-2021, 06:17 AM
Few people in history have lived in the fishbowl that Tiger has lived in - all of his life. While he definitely has made some very poor personal choices, of which all too many seem to take great glee in pointing out (no need in getting into where a lot of that is coming from), he has also went through more physical issues to continue his sport than most. I'm just hoping that he can get to a point, where he can enjoy the rest of his life with his children and to lead a relatively pain-free existence. Get well soon Tiger.

Leadbone1
02-24-2021, 06:17 AM
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.

Well I don’t know about the “poor guy can’t catch a break part “ Personally, I’m Tired of the Tiger Woods overkill on golf television. First of all he can no longer compete with these young guys. Yes he won a masters on a fluke because the guys that were leading all self imploded on the last nine holes. But it happened!
Other than that he’s pretty much been a non-entity. As for this accident I want to wait and hear more details about how you cross over two lanes and roll down a hill in broad daylight! unfortunately, with today’s media, we may never get the real story? No matter what hope he recovers.

Catalina36
02-24-2021, 06:58 AM
A Pro Golfer getting all of this news media attention because of a car accident????

What about all of the Men and Woman that serve our country in the armed forces. There are many who get injured every day and we don't here anything about them. Tiger Woods who? Frankly I don't really give a damn about Tiger Woods. He is just a Pro Golfer who had a great career. Tell me more about the Men and Woman who serve our great country who sacrifice their life for our freedom and democracy. By the way, I am not a veteran. I just respect all of the veterans who served our country.

graciegirl
02-24-2021, 07:05 AM
You’ll hold judgment? How about just having some empathy...period

His injuries appear to be much more than a "broken leg". I envisioned something akin to possible amputation. Awful stuff.

The tournament was sponsored by Genesis....and I had to look it up. It is Hyundai and Genesis is their latest model, touting all kinds of safety features. He was driving the 2021 model with the logo on the side when this happens. Talk about an advertising nightmare.

I had the distinct impression, from listening to his peers on The Golf Channel that he may indeed be fortunate to get out of this walking well.

On the issue of "holding judgement"; Tiger Woods has done some stellar golf in his career and has made some decisions that made people extremely disappointed in his behavior, including substance abuse and messing about with women while married.

I feel the same as Dean Florida with good reason. Anyone would feel compassion for his injuries. Tiger Woods is a brilliant man but he has his demons.

Leadbone1
02-24-2021, 07:08 AM
A Pro Golfer getting all of this news media attention because of a car accident????

What about all of the Men and Woman that serve our country in the armed forces. There are many who get injured every day and we don't here anything about them. Tiger Woods who? Frankly I don't really give a damn about Tiger Woods. He is just a Pro Golfer who had a great career. Tell me more about the Men and Woman who serve our great country who sacrifice their life for our freedom and democracy. By the way, I am not a veteran. I just respect all of the veterans who served our country.

Thank you! I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately our society seems to make idols out of people that are really not idols at all. That would include professional athletes and Hollywood ?

Larchap49
02-24-2021, 07:47 AM
Looks like he's in the right rough

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F1c751526-7616-11eb-9d58-b0b1ea096ce7.jpg?crop=3753%2C2502%2C0%2C0

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2056/04/Tiger-Woods-car-crash.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1

Report said he lost control and rolled several times. The front of that car is pushed back to the windshield. It looks like he had a head on with something very solid. That kind of damage does not come from a roll over. Hope he recovers quickly.

John_W
02-24-2021, 07:51 AM
The tournament was sponsored by Genesis....and I had to look it up. It is Hyundai and Genesis is their latest model, touting all kinds of safety features. He was driving the 2021 model with the logo on the side when this happens. Talk about an advertising nightmare...



All the Asian auto makers have luxury brands that are spun off into separate dealerships. Honda owns Acura, Toyota own Lexus and Nissan owns Infiniti. Hyundai took an existing name of a model and spun off into a separate brand.

You can look up a 2010 Genesis and it's a sports coupe sold by Hyundai dealers (shown below). They borrowed the name and put it on their luxury brand. I'm not sure if the coupe is still made, they came out with a Veloster about 2012 and that's been a Hyundai sports car, probably to replace the coupe.

https://static.autonation.com/actualcdn/7a9d3005d5c35d41b7af8aa6e8dfb9a4_635x475_Q75_V4.jp g

jbrown132
02-24-2021, 07:54 AM
It was nice seeing him out on the course with his son a few weeks back. While I agree that I'm sorry to see anyone get in an accident I'm going to withhold the Poor Tiger Part until the details emerge. Sorry but that's the way it works in my little world. I certainly hope he is going to be okay.
In watching a news conference last night given by the Chief of Police, he said that speed was the only contributing factor and that road is notorious for accidents. He was probably just going to fast and just lost control. I think at 7:30 in the morning I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Polar Bear
02-24-2021, 08:00 AM
Report said he lost control and rolled several times. The front of that car is pushed back to the windshield. It looks like he had a head on with something very solid. That kind of damage does not come from a roll over...
I was thinking the same thing, unless the roll over was an end over end for a bit.

camaguey48
02-24-2021, 08:03 AM
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.
Define poor in this instance.

DeanFL
02-24-2021, 08:07 AM
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I'll hold judgement to "poor Tiger", until the details come out. Appears to be a single-car accident, and a very bad one destroying the SUV -seems to be a Genesis SUV, the promoter/sponsor of the last tourney in CA ending Sunday. Truly hope that it was 'one of those things' and not aggresive driving (or worse). It WAS so touching seeing him with his talented son, and was hoping for his return to the tourney et al. But alas, can only hope he recovers well with no serious impact to him.
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#19 Today, 05:53 AM Cobullymom

You’ll hold judgment? How about just having some empathy...period.
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Well, it's now almost a day since Tiger's accident. LEO reports and info (apparently) indicate that he was not impaired and that these roads are extremely difficult to navigate and many crashes have occured there. There are also reports that Tiger was driving very fast thru the parking lot leading to these roads. And that he was late for his TV-shoot appointment. Two VERY fortunate matters - he WAS not impaired and that no one else was injured or worse.

Personally after driving many years, I have done a LOT of stupid things behind the wheel. I'd assume that goes for most of us here in TV. We're human.

As for empathy for "poor Tiger" - Absolutely 100% NOW. Now that most facts are out. Looks as if the surgeries on his leg are extreme and will take very long to recover with tough rehab. Who knows if he will ever be able to walk well let alone golf at a pro level again. A huge loss for Tiger personally, as well as golf fans. My mind goes to his family, and especially his son Charlie. I can't tell you how happy I was watching them play golf together. Very sad, and now Tiger's life makes a terrible stressful turn yet again.

BTW, lucky he was in a brand new midsize SUV with all the latest safety features. I find it confusing that his primary massive injury is to his RIGHT leg. Trying to imagine how and why this impact was localized. Certain that crash analysis will have volumes of info, and determine how. Glad he was in a solid vehicle...
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Polar Bear
02-24-2021, 08:09 AM
Thank you! I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately our society seems to make idols out of people that are really not idols at all. That would include professional athletes and Hollywood ?

A Pro Golfer getting all of this news media attention because of a car accident????

What about all of the Men and Woman that serve our country in the armed forces...
IMO, those are two separate topics. It’s simply the world we live in. While I agree it’s often very over-the-top, I don’t think it reduces respect for our service men and woman. It certainly doesn’t for me.

blueash
02-24-2021, 08:11 AM
There is additional information about Tiger. CNN reports that, contrary to a post on this site, the police report that the SUV saved his life with its safety features

"I do think the fact that he was wearing a seat belt and that the vehicle safety features worked as designed by the manufacturer likely resulted in either reducing his injury or saving his life,"

The police on the scene also report that Tiger was lucid and no signs of impairment. He was on his way to filming a TV program.

Deputies responding to Woods saw no evidence of impairment, Villanueva said, and they didn't ask hospital officials to take a blood draw, he said.

He had hardware inserted into a damaged lower leg

Orthopedic trauma specialists inserted a rod into his tibia to stabilize both the tibia and fibula bones, stabilized the foot and ankle bones with a combination of screws and pins and relieved pressure to the muscle and soft-tissue of his leg by surgically releasing the covering of the muscle, Chief Medical Officer Dr. Anish Mahajan said in the statement.

I am always amazed that someone who doesn't care about a topic would come to a thread about that topic only to post that the topic doesn't deserve attention because other things are more important. If you want to hate Tiger because of his infidelity, that's fine. At least be consistent and have the same visceral hatred for all persons in public life with a well established history of adultery.

jbrown132
02-24-2021, 08:19 AM
Well I don’t know about the “poor guy can’t catch a break part “ Personally, I’m Tired of the Tiger Woods overkill on golf television. First of all he can no longer compete with these young guys. Yes he won a masters on a fluke because the guys that were leading all self imploded on the last nine holes. But it happened!
Other than that he’s pretty much been a non-entity. As for this accident I want to wait and hear more details about how you cross over two lanes and roll down a hill in broad daylight! unfortunately, with today’s media, we may never get the real story? No matter what hope he recovers.

Personally, I never get tired of the Tiger phenomena. He is the best who has ever played this game and even Jack admits to this. He won the Masters because he managed the course far better than those who were in contention. This came from his knowledge and experience on that course. When he has been able to play constantly he has been competitive. Unfortunately, because of his physical limitations he has not been able to play on a regular basis and to play at that level you need to be playing regularly not once a month or just at the majors. Go TIGER!

richs631
02-24-2021, 08:19 AM
NBC reports he was involved a collision in CA today with significant injuries. A broken leg among them. Looking like no Masters for him again this year. Poor guy can't catch a lucky break.

I don’t like to see anyone get hurt, but how this guy does not have a driver (no pun intended) is beyond me

jimbo2012
02-24-2021, 08:26 AM
that $35,000 car is POS the way it crushed to the windshield

His regular ride is a Porsche Carrera GT $450,000

He may have thought he was driving his car!

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/images/04q2/35848/porsche-carrera-gt-photo-558397-s-986x603.jpg

John_W
02-24-2021, 08:32 AM
I heard on Fox 35 last night that prior to leaving the road, he had crossed the centerline. So it was far more erratic than just going a little wide and jumping the curb. I thought, he was lucky not to hit another car going head-on in the other lane. With the time of 7:12am, it almost sounds like he fell asleep or something in the car distracted him. Maybe being in an unfamiliar car, a new brand, he was fumbling with the radio or something inside and got distracted.

that $35,000 car is POS the way it crushed to the windshield

No $35,000 car, the base price for a 2021 Genesis SUV is $48,000 and the actual sale price on those can go up $70,000.

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2020/03/2021-Genesis-GV80.jpg

jabacon6669
02-24-2021, 08:41 AM
I was in law enforcement for over 40 years, and would never speculate on the cause of such a horrific accident. I only hope the best for Tiger, yes he has had some personal issues over his life, but so has everyone. He has done so much for golf, and the charitable foundations that he is involved in. I'm glad to hear from those at the scene that he didn't appear to be impaired. I'm sure blood work, at the hospital will clarify that. That leaves two other possible causes. Mechanical failure, or Operator error. The experts on the accident reconstruction team will determine that. In, either cause, from my experience from what I saw of the scene, there was definitely excessive speed involved. Thank God no one else was involved. He will be very fortunate if he is able to walk correctly when all has healed, he'll need extensive therapy. Doubtful he'll ever compete at such a high level again. Maybe the Seniors, we'll see, he has a long road ahead, and everyone is different. I wish him well.

DeanFL
02-24-2021, 08:46 AM
that $35,000 car is POS the way it crushed to the windshield

His regular ride is a Porsche Carrera GT $450,000

He may have thought he was driving his car!


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please stop. That's how they extricated him from the car - broke thru the windshield (per LEOs) with an axe and other implement. They also say that the entire passenger compartment/ safety cage was intact and saved his life. But it will be interesting to see why his right leg was so injured...

And, I'd believe Genesis SUV was probably more like $60K.
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graciegirl
02-24-2021, 09:04 AM
There is additional information about Tiger. CNN reports that, contrary to a post on this site, the police report that the SUV saved his life with its safety features



The police on the scene also report that Tiger was lucid and no signs of impairment. He was on his way to filming a TV program.



He had hardware inserted into a damaged lower leg



I am always amazed that someone who doesn't care about a topic would come to a thread about that topic only to post that the topic doesn't deserve attention because other things are more important. If you want to hate Tiger because of his infidelity, that's fine. At least be consistent and have the same visceral hatred for all persons in public life with a well established history of adultery.

Here he was with everything I could dream of. A well deserved success in a business he had been trained for since being a toddler. But his "adultery" was really kinda over the top. It wasn't a dalliance with another leading lady, it appeared to me to be a kind of sport of it's own. We are all entitled to our views. Statistics show that fidelity in Marriage is not as common as it was at one time.

There is something about Tiger Woods that doesn't appeal to me. Maybe his down expression on a bad shot or club pounding after not getting it where he wanted it to go. One of the things in golf I most admire, and in life too, is going ahead, after a bad shot and keeping cool, concentrating on the next shot.

He never made me want to hang his picture in our office like the one we have there of Jack Nicklaus. I could easily point to Jack to our grandson over the years and say...you'd do well to be like him. ( He fainted each time a child was born.) I am so glad to see Tiger Woods pride in his son. (Who some say is a little smart mouthed to caddies etc.)

I have had this discussion here more than once and I am always surprised by the dedication to him. Much like a political figure.

JayK!
02-24-2021, 09:11 AM
Don’t write him off yet.

jimbo2012
02-24-2021, 09:21 AM
the firewall or engine perhaps collapsed into the driver foot well crushing the right leg, with the seat belt his hips shouldn't have moved forward.

Still the car at any price didn't do a great job :ohdear:

There are no crash tests yet done yet in the US.

The winner of the tournament gets one, will he want it?

Seriously this being a new model may very well be a mechanical failure, not driver error, time will tell.

I just hope his long rehab goes well but wonder if his back issues will be negatively impacted or not from the crash.

graciegirl
02-24-2021, 09:23 AM
Day before accident;

Tape of Tiger Woods Day before accident. - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Tape+of+Tiger+Woods+Day+before+accident.&&view=detail&mid=A7F9CEFBFA57D252C241A7F9CEFBFA57D252C241&&FORM=VDRVSR)

December, 2019
Tiger Woods talks about golf with his son, Charlie (https://www.pgatour.com/video/2020/12/15/tiger-woods-talks-about-golf-with-his-son--charlie.html)

Topspinmo
02-24-2021, 09:26 AM
Here he was with everything I could dream of. A well deserved success in a business he had been trained for since being a toddler. But his "adultery" was really kinda over the top. It wasn't a dalliance with another leading lady, it appeared to me to be a kind of sport of it's own. We are all entitled to our views. Statistics show that fidelity in Marriage is not as common as it was at one time.

There is something about Tiger Woods that doesn't appeal to me. Maybe his down expression on a bad shot or club pounding after not getting it where he wanted it to go. One of the things in golf I most admire, and in life too, is going ahead, after a bad shot and keeping cool, concentrating on the next shot.

He never made me want to hang his picture in our office like the one we have there of Jack Nicklaus. I could easily point to Jack to our grandson over the years and say...you'd do well to be like him. ( He fainted each time a child was born.) I am so glad to see Tiger Woods pride in his son. (Who some say is a little smart mouthed to caddies etc.)

I have had this discussion here more than once and I am always surprised by the dedication to him. Much like a political figure.

He got mixed up with wrong crowd, pro basketball players.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
02-24-2021, 09:40 AM
It was nice seeing him out on the course with his son a few weeks back. While I agree that I'm sorry to see anyone get in an accident I'm going to withhold the Poor Tiger Part until the details emerge. Sorry but that's the way it works in my little world. I certainly hope he is going to be okay.

He had compound fractures in both legs that required screws, pins and plates in addition to a fractured ankle. I'm guessing that he'll never play golf or at least competitive golf again.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
02-24-2021, 09:42 AM
Like his accident in Florida, probably involved painkillers and driving. He looked a bit sauced during his interview on TV at Riviera this past weekend. Pure speculation.


Seeing as how he just had his fifth spine surgery in December it wouldn't be surprising that he's on pain killers. But the police said that there was no evidence of impairment. They also stated that the area of his crash was the scene of many accidents. They were not surprised to be called to another one.

DeanFL
02-24-2021, 09:42 AM
jimbo2012 ;1907122

the firewall or engine perhaps collapsed into the driver foot well crushing the right leg, with the seat belt his hips shouldn't have moved forward.

"Perhaps", but let's wait for the ACTUAL information.


Still the car at any price didn't do a great job :ohdear:

"great job'? hmmm....

There are no crash tests yet done yet in the US.

MOST new vehicles selling in the USA do not have NHTSA testing for quite some time after intial deliveries.

The winner of the tournament gets one, will he want it?

Oh please - why do you assume that?

Seriously this being a new model may very well be a mechanical failure, not driver error, time will tell.

Yet ANOTHER assumption on your part, as you did in a prior post of yours re the Windshield.

I just hope his long rehab goes well but wonder if his back issues will be negatively impacted or not from the crash.

Finally a valid thought.


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Dr Winston O Boogie jr
02-24-2021, 09:46 AM
The tournament was sponsored by Genesis....and I had to look it up. It is Hyundai and Genesis is their latest model, touting all kinds of safety features. He was driving the 2021 model with the logo on the side when this happens. Talk about an advertising nightmare.

Considering that the police said that he is lucky to be alive, it could be a great advertisement for their safety features.

I can see it now. "The car that saved Tiger's life. If he had been driving anything else, he'd be dead."

tvbound
02-24-2021, 10:14 AM
"At least be consistent and have the same visceral hatred for all persons in public life with a well established history of adultery."


Excellent point. To do any less, exposes a different agenda.

Red Rose
02-24-2021, 10:16 AM
Maybe the brakes gave out. There were no skid marks. I want him to be OK for his beautiful kids.

Marine1974
02-24-2021, 10:21 AM
Definitely disheartening to hear people who judge any person that suffered serious injuries without all the facts . How in compassionate can one be . Even if their an ashiest , “if you can’t say anything good about a person, don’t say anything “. Reminds us their are people with character flaws that live among us , who must knock other people to make themselves feel good . At least we know their identity and can avoid them . We have some power over them if we pray for them .

Cobullymom
02-24-2021, 10:23 AM
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I'll hold judgement to "poor Tiger", until the details come out. Appears to be a single-car accident, and a very bad one destroying the SUV -seems to be a Genesis SUV, the promoter/sponsor of the last tourney in CA ending Sunday. Truly hope that it was 'one of those things' and not aggresive driving (or worse). It WAS so touching seeing him with his talented son, and was hoping for his return to the tourney et al. But alas, can only hope he recovers well with no serious impact to him.
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#19 Today, 05:53 AM Cobullymom

You’ll hold judgment? How about just having some empathy...period.
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Well, it's now almost a day since Tiger's accident. LEO reports and info (apparently) indicate that he was not impaired and that these roads are extremely difficult to navigate and many crashes have occured there. There are also reports that Tiger was driving very fast thru the parking lot leading to these roads. And that he was late for his TV-shoot appointment. Two VERY fortunate matters - he WAS not impaired and that no one else was injured or worse.

Personally after driving many years, I have done a LOT of stupid things behind the wheel. I'd assume that goes for most of us here in TV. We're human.

As for empathy for "poor Tiger" - Absolutely 100% NOW. Now that most facts are out. Looks as if the surgeries on his leg are extreme and will take very long to recover with tough rehab. Who knows if he will ever be able to walk well let alone golf at a pro level again. A huge loss for Tiger personally, as well as golf fans. My mind goes to his family, and especially his son Charlie. I can't tell you how happy I was watching them play golf together. Very sad, and now Tiger's life makes a terrible stressful turn yet again.

BTW, lucky he was in a brand new midsize SUV with all the latest safety features. I find it confusing that his primary massive injury is to his RIGHT leg. Trying to imagine how and why this impact was localized. Certain that crash analysis will have volumes of info, and determine how. Glad he was in a solid vehicle...
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Thank you..

Cobullymom
02-24-2021, 10:29 AM
His injuries appear to be much more than a "broken leg". I envisioned something akin to possible amputation. Awful stuff.

The tournament was sponsored by Genesis....and I had to look it up. It is Hyundai and Genesis is their latest model, touting all kinds of safety features. He was driving the 2021 model with the logo on the side when this happens. Talk about an advertising nightmare.

I had the distinct impression, from listening to his peers on The Golf Channel that he may indeed be fortunate to get out of this walking well.

On the issue of "holding judgement"; Tiger Woods has done some stellar golf in his career and has made some decisions that made people extremely disappointed in his behavior, including substance abuse and messing about with women while married.

I feel the same as Dean Florida with good reason. Anyone would feel compassion for his injuries. Tiger Woods is a brilliant man but he has his demons.
As usual people jump to conclusions because that seems like the spontaneous thing to do, now you can all insert your foot...

manaboutown
02-24-2021, 10:34 AM
My in-laws used to live in Rolling Hills Estates many years ago. Hawthorne Blvd is extremely steep and winds a lot. They said there were cars that couldn’t make it up the incline and they wore out brakes coming down the road. It requires paying attention at all times. Driving on a strange road with an unfamiliar car makes things even more of a challenge. Wishing him all the best for a complete recovery.

I have driven that road several times when going to visit a friend who lived in Palos Verdes Estates. It is hilly and winding. My guess is he was speeding big time. The sheriff was pretty funny in the understated wording he used in a TV interview to express that notion.

DeanFL
02-24-2021, 11:28 AM
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Tiger Woods almost crashed into a car driven by the director of "Grown-ish" minutes before his near-fatal crash that left him hospitalized with multiple leg injuries on Tuesday.

According to "Grownish" crew member Oliver Konteh, the TV show's director arrived to set shortly before 7 a.m. on Tuesday claiming that Woods, 45, came close to striking his vehicle.

"He was like, 'Yeah, you know what? I almost got in an accident with f--king Tiger Woods. He almost hit me,'" Konteh quoted his director, who has not been identified, to TMZ.

The "Grown-ish" crew members have been staying at the Terranea Resort in Palos Verdes -- the same resort as Woods. It was there Konteh claimed his director saw Woods and described the athlete appearing "agitated and impatient" as his vehicle was blocked by another before he "took off fast."

Konteh recalled crew members "laughing it off" when the director first discussed the near accident with Woods. "I didn't even believe him, to be honest with you," Konteh continued. "That's what we heard. It was early in the morning. Everyone's kind of tired. Plus, it's also Tiger Woods, that's a well known name."

Dr. Anish Mahajan, chief medical officer and interim CEO of Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said Woods is recovering from a long surgical procedure to repair "significant orthopedic injuries to his right lower extremity."

"Comminuted open fractures affecting both the upper and lower portions of the tibia and fibula bones were stabilized by inserting a rod into the tibia," said Mahajan. "Additional injuries to the bones of the foot and ankle were stabilized with a combination of screws and pins."

"Trauma to the muscle and soft-tissue of the leg required surgical release of the covering of the muscles to relieve pressure due to swelling," he continued.
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lwmilo
02-24-2021, 11:48 AM
Stop the chatter for the poor celebrity people...You and I would have been just a stat and nothing more..keep it real people.

Namvet 68

Nucky
02-24-2021, 11:51 AM
In watching a news conference last night given by the Chief of Police, he said that speed was the only contributing factor and that road is notorious for accidents. He was probably just going to fast and just lost control. I think at 7:30 in the morning I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

I hear you. I did give him the benefit of the doubt. 7.30 AM is about the time I started heading for home from a night out many years ago.

He already had strike one and strike two against him. I'm not qualified to give him strike three and neither is anybody else. It's still early in the investigation. Let's see what else is revealed.

rustyp
02-24-2021, 11:57 AM
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Tiger Woods almost crashed into a car driven by the director of "Grown-ish" minutes before his near-fatal crash that left him hospitalized with multiple leg injuries on Tuesday.

According to "Grownish" crew member Oliver Konteh, the TV show's director arrived to set shortly before 7 a.m. on Tuesday claiming that Woods, 45, came close to striking his vehicle.

"He was like, 'Yeah, you know what? I almost got in an accident with f--king Tiger Woods. He almost hit me,'" Konteh quoted his director, who has not been identified, to TMZ.

The "Grown-ish" crew members have been staying at the Terranea Resort in Palos Verdes -- the same resort as Woods. It was there Konteh claimed his director saw Woods and described the athlete appearing "agitated and impatient" as his vehicle was blocked by another before he "took off fast."

Konteh recalled crew members "laughing it off" when the director first discussed the near accident with Woods. "I didn't even believe him, to be honest with you," Konteh continued. "That's what we heard. It was early in the morning. Everyone's kind of tired. Plus, it's also Tiger Woods, that's a well known name."

Dr. Anish Mahajan, chief medical officer and interim CEO of Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said Woods is recovering from a long surgical procedure to repair "significant orthopedic injuries to his right lower extremity."

"Comminuted open fractures affecting both the upper and lower portions of the tibia and fibula bones were stabilized by inserting a rod into the tibia," said Mahajan. "Additional injuries to the bones of the foot and ankle were stabilized with a combination of screws and pins."

"Trauma to the muscle and soft-tissue of the leg required surgical release of the covering of the muscles to relieve pressure due to swelling," he continued.
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Am I interpreting this theory correct ? Tiger may have lost his cool in the face of adversity. 1 2 3 4 . . . . . 10 If true that moves the theory from substance abuse to anger management. Lucky no one else got hurt.

JP
02-24-2021, 12:07 PM
Could have been a high speed blow out.

Koapaka
02-24-2021, 12:30 PM
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more info, interesting>
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Tiger Woods almost crashed into a car driven by the director of "Grown-ish" minutes before his near-fatal crash that left him hospitalized with multiple leg injuries on Tuesday.

According to "Grownish" crew member Oliver Konteh, the TV show's director arrived to set shortly before 7 a.m. on Tuesday claiming that Woods, 45, came close to striking his vehicle.

"He was like, 'Yeah, you know what? I almost got in an accident with f--king Tiger Woods. He almost hit me,'" Konteh quoted his director, who has not been identified, to TMZ.

The "Grown-ish" crew members have been staying at the Terranea Resort in Palos Verdes -- the same resort as Woods. It was there Konteh claimed his director saw Woods and described the athlete appearing "agitated and impatient" as his vehicle was blocked by another before he "took off fast."

Konteh recalled crew members "laughing it off" when the director first discussed the near accident with Woods. "I didn't even believe him, to be honest with you," Konteh continued. "That's what we heard. It was early in the morning. Everyone's kind of tired. Plus, it's also Tiger Woods, that's a well known name."

Dr. Anish Mahajan, chief medical officer and interim CEO of Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said Woods is recovering from a long surgical procedure to repair "significant orthopedic injuries to his right lower extremity."

"Comminuted open fractures affecting both the upper and lower portions of the tibia and fibula bones were stabilized by inserting a rod into the tibia," said Mahajan. "Additional injuries to the bones of the foot and ankle were stabilized with a combination of screws and pins."

"Trauma to the muscle and soft-tissue of the leg required surgical release of the covering of the muscles to relieve pressure due to swelling," he continued.
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I sure hope he does not suffer from "compartment syndrome" after this type of trauma. It is horribly painful and depilating for years. The last sentence of the statement by attending is very concerning for someone of his profession.

WindyCityzen
02-24-2021, 12:56 PM
Take the car keys away from this guy!

graciegirl
02-24-2021, 12:59 PM
"At least be consistent and have the same visceral hatred for all persons in public life with a well established history of adultery."


Excellent point. To do any less, exposes a different agenda.

Whose post showed "Visceral hatred" toward Tiger and or people in public life with a well established history of adultery???

graciegirl
02-24-2021, 01:04 PM
Definitely disheartening to hear people who judge any person that suffered serious injuries without all the facts . How in compassionate can one be . Even if their an ashiest , “if you can’t say anything good about a person, don’t say anything “. Reminds us their are people with character flaws that live among us , who must knock other people to make themselves feel good . At least we know their identity and can avoid them . We have some power over them if we pray for them .

Most people on this forum, if not all, said they wished for his returning health, even if they disliked his persona. Atheist or believer...I don't see where anyone didn't hope that he would recover completely. We all have folks that we are drawn to more and those we dislike. There is a BIG difference in feeling that way and doing harm to another or even wishing harm to another.

Mortal1
02-24-2021, 01:23 PM
you reap what you sow.

One of the best golfers ever(not the best)...personal life(when you're a superstar you have no personal life)a bust....over the top celebration when sinking a putt..poor sportsmanship.

I wish him a speedy recovery to him and a return to the tour, but unlike those who bow down before him....nah. He zero common sense off the course.

Fredman
02-24-2021, 01:39 PM
It will be interesting to hear his story

Polar Bear
02-24-2021, 02:02 PM
As others have said, Tiger is (at least arguably) the greatest golfer of all time. I wish him a good recovery and it would be a huge news story if he made another return attempt.

But as much as he has succeeded on the golf course, he has failed miserably in other more important parts of life. All humans have failures. But not everyone has failed in as contrived, repeated and remorseless fashion as Tiger.

So am I a fan of Tiger as a golfer? No. I just can't...and don't wish to...separate enough what he's done on the golf course from what he's done off the course.

That doesn't mean I wish him any ill-health. Get well, Tiger. While not a fan, I will admit it would be very interesting to watch another comeback attempt.

(And never in a million years would I think the phrase "Poor guy can't catch a lucky break" applies to Tiger. :)

bagboy
02-24-2021, 02:22 PM
Tiger Woods along with his Tiger Woods Foundation to date have raised Hundreds of millions of dollars and spent thousands of hours doing charitable work, all while making a positive impact in the lives of under privileged, under educated, and those who would be left by the wayside without the help he has provided.
What a POS and terrible human being he is.

alwann
02-24-2021, 02:31 PM
As others have said, Tiger is (at least arguably) the greatest golfer of all time. I wish him a good recovery and it would be a huge news story if he made another return attempt.

But as much as he has succeeded on the golf course, he has failed miserably in other more important parts of life. All humans have failures. But not everyone has failed in as contrived, repeated and remorseless fashion as Tiger.

So am I a fan of Tiger as a golfer? No. I just can't...and don't wish to...separate enough what he's done on the golf course from what he's done off the course.

That doesn't mean I wish him any ill-health. Get well, Tiger. While not a fan, I will admit it would be very interesting to watch another comeback attempt.

(And never in a million years would I think the phrase "Poor guy can't catch a lucky break" applies to Tiger. :)
Do you know what a backhanded compliment is? Look it up. I don't feel pity for Tiger but concern. And he deserves points for being a good father. Reportedly his own father wasn't a particularly moral role model and, you know, the apple and the tree.

rustyp
02-24-2021, 02:45 PM
Do you know what a backhanded compliment is? Look it up. I don't feel pity for Tiger but concern. And he deserves points for being a good father. Reportedly his own father wasn't a particularly moral role model and, you know, the apple and the tree.

Oh Oh Pick Me - "Bless your heart"

manaboutown
02-24-2021, 06:18 PM
Let's bring a little humor into this discussion. What kind of woods don't drive well? Tiger Woods!

And from the past...What kind of wood does not float? Natalie Wood!

DeanFL
02-24-2021, 06:20 PM
Let's bring a little humor into this discussion. What kind of woods don't drive well? Tiger Woods!

And from the past...What kind of wood does not float? Natalie Wood!
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stanley
02-24-2021, 06:23 PM
And from the past...What kind of wood does not float? Natalie Wood!

Natalie Woods mother always told her it's OK to drink, just don't go overboard.

Hey you started!

manaboutown
02-24-2021, 06:27 PM
Groan

Velvet
02-24-2021, 07:39 PM
Do you know what a backhanded compliment is? Look it up. I don't feel pity for Tiger but concern. And he deserves points for being a good father. Reportedly his own father wasn't a particularly moral role model and, you know, the apple and the tree.

Constantly cheated on the mother of his children and he is a good father? Hmmm.... what is the definition of a good father (not murdering a family member)? Why not just divorce her if he doesn’t want to keep his wows.