Who else is very tired of Dr. Faucci and mixed messages?

[DeanFL]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

[Decadeofdave]

When he said last week we need to pass the stimulus, his credibility off the cliff.

[JSR22]

I have 100% respect for Dr. Fauci's expertise and knowledge.

[graciegirl]

I have confidence in the medical expertise of Dr. Fauci. (Spelled with one C) on matters relating to vaccines.

[dewilson58]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

[Mortal1]

I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.

[njbchbum]

My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

[canyonblue]

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated?

Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life.

[JoMar]

Could it be that things change because we learn more? The vaccine will protect you and if you don't care about others you can go back to normal. They don't know if, even though you probably won't get sick, if you can carry and spread. So if that's a possibility you decide if you want to protect your friends, kids and grand kids.

[billethkid]

When whole numbers are sufficient folks like Fauci want to talk out at the 7th decimal place...having no significant impact on the whole number.

With no accountability or responsibility one can say whatever they want.....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

Early on, that's what the available science indicated, combined with the needs of health care workers, who were experiencing a deficit of PPEs at the time.

And then, the science changed and so did the availability of PPEs.

If you can accept that the concept of "progress" is valid, happens, and can actually be a good thing, you can accept the above, without condemnation of the people who deliver the information.

[jebartle]

I respect Dr. Fauci and science, after that its up to our common sense.

[Kenswing]

Who else is tired of the Covid debate in general?

[dewilson58]

without condemnation of the people who deliver the information.
Re-read...................a statement of fact is not condemning. :ho:

[Katieburr]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

[Tmarkwald]

Fauci is consistently inconsistent. In my book, he has ZERO credibility.

It's like he is trying to keep everyone happy.

In the beginning the wind was blowing one way, then the wind shifted and he shifted as well...

I do not trust him..

[Bill14564]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

That is the truth? And how do you know that is the truth? Did you see it written on stone tablets? Or did you hear it from the same man who said wearing masks would give a false sense of security and would be worse than no mask at all.....until he changed his mind?

Fauci is dealing with new information and sometimes has to change guidance based on that new information. Unfortunately, he seems to also be leveraging his reputation to attempt to drive public behaviors. "Fauci said" is heard more often than "Simon says" these days. In the case of the masks, he acknowledged that part of the reason for his initial message was to preserve masks for doctors - he was trying to drive our behavior. In the case of the number of vaccinations needed for herd immunity he acknowledged that he increased his estimate when he learned that more people were accepting the vaccine - it was off to a good start so he could shoot higher and attempt to get even more people on board.

I trust his expertise but I don't trust the man. I believe he knows his field but I suspect this virus is doing things he doesn't expect and he's struggling to understand it. When he talks about science he has credibility but when he attempts to sway public opinion and drive behaviors he loses it.

[Joe V.]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Fauci did not keep me alive.

[graciegirl]

Could it be that things change because we learn more? The vaccine will protect you and if you don't care about others you can go back to normal. They don't know if, even though you probably won't get sick, if you can carry and spread. So if that's a possibility you decide if you want to protect your friends, kids and grand kids.

Exactly.

[Nucky]

He needs to be taken behind the school for a beatin'. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

I am disappointed in him for many reasons. I'm like Quick Draw McGraw with the remote when he comes on TV.

[graciegirl]

Fauci is consistently inconsistent. In my book, he has ZERO credibility.

It's like he is trying to keep everyone happy.

In the beginning the wind was blowing one way, then the wind shifted and he shifted as well...

I do not trust him..

I do trust him. I trust his background and his expertise, his knowledge and lack of it. This variation of the Corona Virus, Covid-19 had never been encountered by a human before and so what it did to people; to thousands of people, millions of people had not been studied before. I think he did as well as any person in the the entire world in answering questions to the best of his knowledge about what would happen.

It must have been very difficult because the main person in charge is never as qualified to understand things like this Pandemic. And this is true of all Presidents before him. It was almost a year before the person in office before this one had a Surgeon General and people placed in quarantine during the threat of Ebola in Maine, ignored the order to be quarantined. Ebola kills 50% of those infected although it isn't as contagious by far.. No President I have known have been experts on medicine and sometimes what the medical people have to say is at odds to what would be best to keep the country running. So these cross purposes and downright lack of knowledge is thrust at the person who must give directions on the nations health. I felt for him time and time again. What a hot seat he has sat in over time.

[Velvet]

I also have great respect for Dr. Fauci, but he makes judgments I don’t always agree with. I would prefer strictly data from him and not opinions. I was not happy when he said masks do not help people. He didn’t explain why he said that in March last year which would have helped me to accept his statement. He does not want people to delay the second dose even though there is data to show that one dose is highly effective and can last for some time. So there are two of his judgements I personally disagree with. But on the whole, I am quite happy with many of his other suggestions.

[coffeebean]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

Just after January 20th, Dr. Fauci made an announcement on TV and he said he can FINALLY be transparent to Americans about the pandemic. He said he would always tell the American people the truth now that he can be transparent.

What does that tell ya????

[coffeebean]

Oops. Duplicate post.

[coffeebean]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

This is a reply I made on another forum. This was my response to someone who claimed that Dr. Fauci said we did not have to wear masks if we were not symptomatic..........

I truly believe Dr. Fauci lied alright and I will never forgive him, even if it came from the top to tell the American people this lie. The reason I say this is because Dr. Fauci has worked with respiratory viruses his entire career and has devoted his life's work to epidemiology. The influenza virus has asymptomatic carriers of the virus so it was very possible the Covid virus would also. Why not err on the safe side???



Respiratory viruses are transmitted by droplets and aerosols and the Covid virus is no different. Dr. Fauci knew this. I understand why he lied. He even said he lied to us but for a good reason. He said he did not want Americans to purchase all the PPE that the health care professionals needed to take care of sick Covid patients. He apologized for the lie. I heard him say it in an interview on TV.



I honestly think if he and the administration at the time. were honest with the American people, we could have had a handle on the pandemic better than we have faired. Home made masks were better than nothing for protection but very effective for source control. All Dr. Fauci had to tell the American people was to cover our faces when in public with anything other than N95 or KN95 masks. Leave those N95 and KN95 masks for the health care professionals who are on the front lines fighting the war against Covid.



Just out of curiosity, early on in the pandemic, I went to Amazon to see how many N95 or KN95 masks there were and how much they were. To my surprise, every single listing for N95 or KN95 masks were blocked off to the public. They were only for sale for health care providers and health care facilities. That is all it took to prevent the general public from preventing those supplies from going to the health care professionals.



I firmly believe Dr. Fauci's hands were "tied" by his boss at the time. And I'm so damn mad about that!
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Having said all that.......I would like to add to this above comment that I still do trust Dr. Fauci. He made it very clear to the American people in months after the pandemic began, that he did lie about us not needing masks if we were not having symptoms but for a good reason. At least he admitted to the lie which, to me, is a testament to the man's character. He finally told us the truth which is more than I can say for his previous boss.

[coffeebean]

I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.

Science evolves and so does this virus. What was true yesterday may not be true today. If you follow science, you know this. I listen to the man who has devoted his entire professional life to epidemiology.

[coffeebean]

Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life.

The vaccines prevent death and long haul side effects. Isn't that enough of an incentive to consider being vaccinated?

[coffeebean]

Who else is tired of the Covid debate in general?

Not I said the cat!!!

[coffeebean]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Truer words were never spoken. IMHO, I have always thought that if EVERYONE wore a mask in public AND kept a safe distance from others ALL THE TIME, we would not be in this mess of a pandemic.

[Garwood1]

If you have watched Fauci then I wonder which way he’s going tomorrow as he’s changed course at least 3-4 since thus started , and scientists live for grants so they can do their pet projects so they have interesting being in the forefront so I don’t always trust their motives either

[Happinow]

If people getting the shot cannot get back to doing what they were prior to the virus, then why get the shot?? I’m suspect and will never get the shot.

[coffeebean]

If people getting the shot cannot get back to doing what they were prior to the virus, then why get the shot?? I’m suspect and will never get the shot.

How about not dying? Is that enough incentive for you? How about not have those lingering long haul side effects even if you do survive the virus? Is that enough incentive for you?

There is new evidence coming out of Israel that the mRNA vaccines prevent the transmission of the virus. That is the best news to come our way about these vaccines. Dr, Fauci did make this announcement and I saw him on a news cast on TV saying that.

In addition, because of this new evidence, fully vaccinated people who have an exposure to a Covid positive person, DO NOT have to quarantine. To me, this means there is evidence that a vaccinate person can not transmit the disease.

This is what the CDC has on their website regarding vaccinated people not needing to quarantine if exposed to Covid. Take note of the 4th bulleted point...........

Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html)

Just my opinion but if this latest evidence shows without a doubt that vaccinated people will not transmit the virus, there will be updated recommendations from Dr. Fauci. We just have to wait.

[Joe V.]

There is new evidence coming out of Israel that the mRNA vaccines prevent the transmission of the virus. That is the best news to come our way about these vaccines. Dr, Fauci did make this announcement and I saw him on a news cast on TV saying that.

In addition, because of this new evidence, fully vaccinated people who have an exposure to a Covid positive person, DO NOT have to quarantine. To me, this means there is evidence that a vaccinate person can not transmit the disease.

This is what the CDC has on their website regarding vaccinated people not needing to quarantine if exposed to Covid. Take note of the 4th bulleted point...........

Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html)

Just my opinion but if this latest evidence shows without a doubt that vaccinated people will not transmit the virus, there will be updated recommendations from Dr. Fauci. We just have to wait.

Great. So long masks. I am vaccinated.

[schwarz]

Finally an intelligent response. He can only make decisions and give advice based on the knowledge and statistics currently available.

[Topspinmo]

When he said last week we need to pass the stimulus, his credibility off the cliff.

Why did he say that? Money in it for his department. IMO he flip flops too much. Also why FDA dragging feet to evaluate J&J vaccine. That one going to be game changer IMO, you’ll be able to get at drug store, urgent care centers, doctor offices, anywhere where there a pharmacy.

[Kenswing]

You CAN trust everything Dr. Fauci says to the American people as of January 20th is the truth and nothing but the truth. He can now be transparent with us, good news or bad news; he has promised to tell us the truth. I saw him say that on a news cast on TV. Something he could NOT do prior to January 20th under his old boss.

That goes straight to his credibility. If you're saying he lied because his boss told him to, that shows lack of integrity. Would you lie because your boss told you to? I know if my boss told me to lie I would either ignore his order or find another job. If your word is no good anything you say is suspect.

[coffeebean]

That goes straight to his credibility. If you're saying he lied because his boss told him to, that shows lack of integrity. Would you lie because your boss told you to? I know if my boss told me to lie I would either ignore his order or find another job. If your word is no good anything you say is suspect.

I see your point but....I still trust the man. He did something that many people could not bring himself to do. Admit he was wrong.

[Bucco]

That goes straight to his credibility. If you're saying he lied because his boss told him to, that shows lack of integrity. Would you lie because your boss told you to? I know if my boss told me to lie I would either ignore his order or find another job. If your word is no good anything you say is suspect.

You got it wrong.

First, he is a man who has been verbally abused by the largest megaphone in the world. If he had news to get out that was not pleasing to admin, he was forbidden to talk, which his boss can, and did do. He ha been called an idiot on national TV and was forbidden to respond.

The experts on TOTV, and other places seem to have become experts in medicine suddenly.

He has been a leader in many causes over the years. As mentioned, he is learning (perhaps not as fast as TOTV posters or some elected officials) as everyone is doing.

This is tiresome, degrading a man, but it is what we are now. Respect nobody who does not agree 100% with is the new philosophy. Accuse people of the things you do.

Dr Fauci does not claim to be perfect, admits he is trying to get it all right.

Headlines today attack him saying Corona Virus “experts” criticize him for mixed messaging. Read the article.....a few of the “experts” have zero medical background, and the criticism is that he is too cautious ( a repeat of things said before when it was at its peak). I will take cautious over announcing early on that the virus is over

He will not tout a drug, nor become complacent about where we are. Instead of praising reckless claims about the downfall of this virus, cannot adults even realize he is not a cheerleader, and, for me anyway, I will be happy with trying to get it right rather than damning this guy.

[Bucco]

Why did he say that? Money in it for his department. IMO he flip flops too much. Also why FDA dragging feet to evaluate J&J vaccine. That one going to be game changer IMO, you’ll be able to get at drug store, urgent care centers, doctored offices, anywhere where there a pharmacy.

Get your facts correct. Do not quote people “out of context” with apparently no idea of what he said.

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”

Fauci: Stimulus bill needs to be passed for schools to reopen | TheHill (https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/538813-fauci-stimulus-bill-needs-to-be-passed-for-schools-to-reopen)

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”

[JerryLBell]

Dr. Fauci is not a politician who has to make his mind up on a topic even if he lacks any factual information, then stick with that decision even as new information comes in. His guidance has changed as more information became available about COVID-19 and, unfortunately, as the government chose to ignore the recommendations he made, as well as those made by the CDC, the WHO, etc. and as a significant section of the citizenry has chosen to follow the advice of non-experts, 24-hour news channel talking heads and conspiracy nuts. Has he strayed from his area of expertise on occasion? Possibly. Are we tired of living under the restrictions he has urged? Undoubtedly. Should we follow his advice, even as it is updated, revised and otherwise changed? You bet.

[NoMoSno]

Get your facts correct. Do not quote people “out of context” with apparently no idea of what he said.

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”

Fauci: Stimulus bill needs to be passed for schools to reopen | TheHill (https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/538813-fauci-stimulus-bill-needs-to-be-passed-for-schools-to-reopen)

“When asked by Stephanopoulos if schools had the resources available to abide by the new CDC guidelines, Fauci said he did not believe so.

“I think that the schools really do need more resources and that's the reason why the national relief act that we're talking about getting passed — we need that. The schools need more resources.”
Maybe if the bill wasn't full of non-covid related pork, it would pass.

[Bucco]

Maybe if the bill wasn't full of non-covid related pork, it would pass.

First, that is not the subject of this thread, and recall the states got much nothing for the, almost a year, of the virus. Sort of left to “sort it out” themselves.

But this thread has nothing to do with that bill.

But I am sort of used to folks “turning” things.

[Swoop]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.
Remember, when your prophet Fauci decided that we should all wear masks, it wasn’t to eradicate the virus, it was simply to help slow the spread...

[coffeebean]

Remember, when your prophet Fauci decided that we should all wear masks, it wasn’t to eradicate the virus, it was simply to help slow the spread...

Of course the Universal masking and social distancing request was to slow the spread. No one ever said wearing masks would eradicate the virus. And...... your point is?????

[Pairadocs]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

Can't express how much I agree with you, just another self-promoting political animal and actually I am absolutely sure there are MANY more talented and skilled individuals than he, they just don't flaunt their political ambitions and insatiable deep need for media attention, to "be somebody". Also tired of the WHO head administrator, Tedros Adhanom, who uses "Dr." BEFORE his name, I am sure with the intent to be taken for an M.D., and who, although head of public health in.... let's see, where was it, Ethiopia I believe, does not actually hold any M.D. or Ph.D. in a non medical/scientific field. Unfortunately, the people of our country, and many others, do not chose the most qualified or the most naturally gifted in medicine, research, the law, etc., no, we go for the self promoters, the ones who hire a behind the scenes publicist, even in academia. No, it's not quite the same as those who work as entertainment/Hollywood promoters, but it's the same principle. They guide you in how to promote some pretty flimsy articles based on very poor research perimeters, poorly designed studies, and then "promote" this garbage "science" with the smoke and mirrors that serve to impress the vast majority of citizens who have no idea what to look for in a well constructed research study.... the variables, the standard deviations, the margins of error and what that might mean, etc. Believe me, the "cream" does not naturally rise to the top, these folks are self promoters and plan every inch of their "career" rise. They know quite smugly, they are of course, "smarter than the average bear", kind of like the self promoting architect of the Obama medical plan.... remember him on the hot mike ? Too bad, most American's spend a lot more time and research into what color automobile they will buy, than who they catapult to the highest positions and offices, even when it comes to their HEALTH and their education and the education of their children. Don't think it is likely to change either, many could not care less.

[JoMar]

How about not dying? Is that enough incentive for you? How about not have those lingering long haul side effects even if you do survive the virus? Is that enough incentive for you?

There is new evidence coming out of Israel that the mRNA vaccines prevent the transmission of the virus. That is the best news to come our way about these vaccines. Dr, Fauci did make this announcement and I saw him on a news cast on TV saying that.

In addition, because of this new evidence, fully vaccinated people who have an exposure to a Covid positive person, DO NOT have to quarantine. To me, this means there is evidence that a vaccinate person can not transmit the disease.

This is what the CDC has on their website regarding vaccinated people not needing to quarantine if exposed to Covid. Take note of the 4th bulleted point...........

Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html)

Just my opinion but if this latest evidence shows without a doubt that vaccinated people will not transmit the virus, there will be updated recommendations from Dr. Fauci. We just have to wait.

May want to read it again.....nothing in there says vaccinated people can't transmit, mostly because it hasn't been clearly determined. Still learning.
From the CDC Website: "It’s important for everyone to continue using all the tools available to help stop this pandemic as we learn more about how COVID-19 vaccines work in real-world conditions. Experts are also looking at how many people get vaccinated and how the virus is spreading in communities. We also don’t yet know whether getting a COVID-19 vaccine will prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to other people, even if you don’t get sick yourself. CDC will continue to update this page as we learn more." (Feb 19)

[chet2020]

My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

There was concern that people vaccinated could carry the virus for a short period of time and infect other people even though they were not in danger themselves. That's why Fauci was cautious about throwing away the masks.

Lately there's been a push by certain people to make Fauci the scapegoat for everything from A to Z and some of us are apparently buying it. It does not reflect well on us.

[JimJohnson]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

I think of him as a hero.

[JimJohnson]

Could it be that things change because we learn more? The vaccine will protect you and if you don't care about others you can go back to normal. They don't know if, even though you probably won't get sick, if you can carry and spread. So if that's a possibility you decide if you want to protect your friends, kids and grand kids.

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2021 and Science is still not trusted by some. So sad.

[coffeebean]

May want to read it again.....nothing in there says vaccinated people can't transmit, mostly because it hasn't been clearly determined. Still learning.
From the CDC Website: "It’s important for everyone to continue using all the tools available to help stop this pandemic as we learn more about how COVID-19 vaccines work in real-world conditions. Experts are also looking at how many people get vaccinated and how the virus is spreading in communities. We also don’t yet know whether getting a COVID-19 vaccine will prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to other people, even if you don’t get sick yourself. CDC will continue to update this page as we learn more." (Feb 19)

Yes, I know that. I did say to look at the 4th bullet point which indicates to me that a vaccinated person who is exposed to Covid does not have to quarantine. We are still waiting for definite word from the experts and organizations such as the CDC to let us know if in fact vaccinated people have a low enough viral load to not be able to transmit the disease. We must wait at this point to see if in fact the mRNA vaccines will prevent transmission in vaccinated people. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

[Tmarkwald]

Who silenced him?

Exactly.

He chose to be silent rather than speak up.

If you don't have any integrity left, better to keep the mouth shut.

[Rwirish]

No me, 100% respect for Dr.Fauci. The virus is not a constant and our knowledge and response change frequently.

[matandch]

My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

Only when at least 80% of the population is vaccinated can we think about returning to normalcy.

All of the vaccines out there have an efficacy of around 95%. If you’ve been fully vaccinated you should behave like you’re one of the 5% until we hit the 80% vaccinated necessary for herd immunity.

[StirStik]

He has been a joke from day 1. Most overpaid employee there is.

[banjobob]

I think everybody is tired of hearing from him. Flip flop tell us what to do .

[oneclickplus]

The vaccines prevent death and long haul side effects. Isn't that enough of an incentive to consider being vaccinated?

Really? All promotional material relating to the Covid-19 Vaccine is required to clearly and conspicuously state that this product has not been approved or licensed by the FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA.

Anyone who takes this vaccine is a voluntary guinea pig.

[Leadbone1]

I don’t pay attention to one thing Dr. Fauci has to say. He’s been all over the place on everything. The way people like him staying businesses by keeping everything and everyone in turmoil. And I don’t wear a mask except for a doctor appointment which is very few and far between

[Bridget Staunton]

Don’t trust him anymore, although the CDC is a excellent organization. Once he moved into a government job he has trouble telling the truth and speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

[elevatorman]

If you don't believe what Dr. Fauci is saying about Covid-19, who do you believe?
CDC
WHO
Dr. Atlas
Your GP
Politician R
Politician D
I trust the science. I would listen to an epidemiologist speaking about Covid before a politician, general practitioner, or a blog post. I trust the CDC, WHO. and Dr. Fauci.
I believe Dr Fauci is the preeminent voice worldwide on Covid as well as many other communicable diseases.

[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

Selecting Dr. Fauci was an extremely poor decision, in my opinion. I am sure, in his day - which was back in the 80s - he was fine. But, no one can tell me - with all the great minds at outstanding universities and research institutions here in the US and around the world - not one other person on this earth - who has more recently achieved great accolades in the field - was equally or more qualified and established as a better and more consistent/reliable communicator! If Fauci (at 80 yrs old) is all we have as our go-to-person / expert - we are in some serious, really serious trouble.

BTW - I lost total confidence in Dr. Fauci when I saw him sitting at a baseball game - with others - no mask - after telling everyone they must wear a mask and remain locked down. I lost all credibility with him at that point..... also - I agree - his role is NOT to be the single voice directing our policies on how we can or can not live our lives. He has been given way too much power - by each President (Trump and Biden) in my opinion.

[Cobullymom]

Can't express how much I agree with you, just another self-promoting political animal and actually I am absolutely sure there are MANY more talented and skilled individuals than he, they just don't flaunt their political ambitions and insatiable deep need for media attention, to "be somebody". Also tired of the WHO head administrator, Tedros Adhanom, who uses "Dr." BEFORE his name, I am sure with the intent to be taken for an M.D., and who, although head of public health in.... let's see, where was it, Ethiopia I believe, does not actually hold any M.D. or Ph.D. in a non medical/scientific field. Unfortunately, the people of our country, and many others, do not chose the most qualified or the most naturally gifted in medicine, research, the law, etc., no, we go for the self promoters, the ones who hire a behind the scenes publicist, even in academia. No, it's not quite the same as those who work as entertainment/Hollywood promoters, but it's the same principle. They guide you in how to promote some pretty flimsy articles based on very poor research perimeters, poorly designed studies, and then "promote" this garbage "science" with the smoke and mirrors that serve to impress the vast majority of citizens who have no idea what to look for in a well constructed research study.... the variables, the standard deviations, the margins of error and what that might mean, etc. Believe me, the "cream" does not naturally rise to the top, these folks are self promoters and plan every inch of their "career" rise. They know quite smugly, they are of course, "smarter than the average bear", kind of like the self promoting architect of the Obama medical plan.... remember him on the hot mike ? Too bad, most American's spend a lot more time and research into what color automobile they will buy, than who they catapult to the highest positions and offices, even when it comes to their HEALTH and their education and the education of their children. Don't think it is likely to change either, many could not care less.
Absolutely agree 100%...

[Accidental1]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

You also replied to another post "Re-read...................a statement of fact is not condemning."

Yes, they are facts (partial) that lack context.

Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.

March 2020: Dr. Anthony Fauci talks with Dr Jon LaPook about Covid-19 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI&feature=youtu.be)

[DONKEY10]

Dr. Fauci is an ego maniac with a Napolean syndrome. I wouldn't listen to him if he was the last doctor on earth. Should have been fired by Trump a long tome ago.

[crc19188]

Wow all my life I put faith in GOD. Fauci is not smarter and did not keep me alive. The Lord above will help us. We just need to praise him.

[Bay Kid]

Half million a year is lots of money to be paid, but he is good at keeping everyone confused. Lifer government employee.

[Petersweeney]

Is he the only one who knows about COVID? I’d like to hear from other MDs and researchers please ..... why are we putting all the eggs in his basket?

[Cobullymom]

That goes straight to his credibility. If you're saying he lied because his boss told him to, that shows lack of integrity. Would you lie because your boss told you to? I know if my boss told me to lie I would either ignore his order or find another job. If your word is no good anything you say is suspect.
Bingo

[Joanne D]

Peace, love and well wishes to all. Read and listen to what you see and hear about the virus. Consider all and take in what you want but know that Beliefs are hard to change and no one can change your beliefs but you. The virus is evolving just like the advise so what was said or promoted in the past may be changed now to attack the virus or viruses we are now facing. Nothing is static.

Stay safe!

[coffeebean]

Really? All promotional material relating to the Covid-19 Vaccine is required to clearly and conspicuously state that this product has not been approved or licensed by the FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA.

Anyone who takes this vaccine is a voluntary guinea pig.

Yes, I'm aware the vaccines are not yet approved by the FDA and I would hope all people who are welcoming this vaccine are aware also. FDA approval will come along in good time, I believe. In the meantime, these mRNA vaccines are saving lives and have shown to also prevent the long haul effects of Covid. I spend half my time researching this information. I honestly try my best to pass on information from reliable sources.

I can not find any information on line about the vaccines preventing long haul side effects so I must have heard that from one of the resident doctors on a TV news source. I do remember being very encouraged by hearing about that.

[JoelJohnson]

"When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do?"

[graciegirl]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

Early on, the pooled information of the experts of the world was very limited.

Every single soul was bamboozled by this virus. Even people schooled in medicine admit to being surprised and not able to get information initially, simply because there was none.

Pandemics are not common and each has it's own symptoms and death tolls. People who counted dead bodies from this were unsure how to do it. People who treated people with Covid-19 had no background information on this different kind of pneumonia and blood vessels being clogged and seniors dying in higher numbers.

Fauci had a lot of background knowledge on all kinds of epidemics and lots of information on how viruses and bacteria affect people, but not any information on this one at the beginning. All medical people were floundering at the beginning. I think he did well, considering the political powers that had far less information being critical of his information.

All those involved did the best they could. Well most of them anyway. I am not a medical person. I am just an 81 year old observer of life and I have been gravely disappointed in people this last year by some, and had my faith renewed in mankind by others.

I am YOUR fan, DeWilson. I am also a fan of the OP, although we don't always see things exactly the same.

[lcarlson]

Isn't that the truth.
It seems the world is full of hate and lies!!

[DeanFL]

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I'm the OP for this Fauci (now spelled right...) Thread. Interesting posts and feedback from many sides folks. But - I am not swayed to change my original views. And FYI - here's more feedback to support my "Fauci Fatigue".

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Senior analyst Brit Hume laid into public policymakers Tuesday for appearing to solely rely on Dr. Anthony Fauci for guidance on the coronavirus pandemic and shutting out scientists from other fields.

"He’s an epidemiologist," Hume told Katie Pavlich of Fauci. "His job is to fight this disease. He’s not an expert in child psychology, or children’s education. He’s not an expert on whether cancer screenings can be postponed when there’s lockdowns that are affecting hospitals. He’s not an authority on the U.S. economy or the damage that may be done to it. He’s just not. That’s somebody else’s problem and it’s not his."

Hume then criticized governors who locked down their states last year based on Fauci’s ever-evolving messaging.

"When we as a nation turn over all of our policies [that] this pandemic touches upon or [is] touched upon by it, to a person with a very narrow focus, we end up with these insane lockdowns and we end up with collateral damage about which he seems unconcerned, because it’s not in his bailiwick, and we end up with the terrible problems that we’ve had," he said.

"When they talk about 'Follow the science,' the question becomes, which science? Economics is a science. Cardiology is a branch of science … If you only listen to some scientists instead of looking through a broader lens, you end up with the kind of policy decisions we’ve made. I think these lockdowns and the closing of the schools are the worst public policy decisions of my lifetime."

For much of the mainstream media, Fauci has achieved a kind of iconic status since the coronavirus and COVID-19 became a despised part of American life. But in a tweet on Tuesday, Hume issued a reminder of the limits of Fauci’s responsibility — and his expertise.

“Remember: his job is to fight the Covid outbreak,” Hume wrote. “He has no responsibility for children’s mental health or education. The economy is someone else’s problem. So are missed cancer screenings; suicides and other collateral damage from lockdowns etc.”

While Hume laid much of the responsibility at the feet of public officials, there was another group he called out.

"A great deal of responsibility for our unfortunate responses belongs with the news media, which has been terrible in this."

Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, seemed to say the existence and spreading use of the coronavirus vaccines would not mean a break from COVID-19 restrictions for the general population any time soon.

“There are things, even if you’re vaccinated, that you’re not going to be able to do in society,” Fauci said, according to Business Insider. “For example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. That’s because of the safety of society.”

Now, it’s “because of the safety of society”?

That’s the latest, nebulous line from Fauci, who might well be respected in his field for a good reason, but has squandered his credibility over his year in the public eye.

Hume is not the only one suffering from Fauci fatigue. (It would probably be harder to find a sane person who hasn’t had it with the doctor by now.)
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[gemini5001]

Yeah, and now he wants people to wear double masks....soon it'll be 3. SMDH !

[Jokomo]

I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.

The Who hasn’t been the same since Keith Moon died.

[conman5652@aol.com]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?
His knowledge and response are based on playing it safe. He only wants to guide us not tell us what to do. That not is job. His options are based on scientific research and first hand knowledge. So do kill the messenger and don’t play it safe. So if u don’t like him that’s fine. But don’t blame him for practicing safe science

[BruggsNC1]

In the medical field there is always testing and new Data coming into light. As that NEW information is discovered, new advice is dispensed. It is not being "wishy-washy". It is just dispensing the Best advice for the Data that is currently known.

[Villages Kahuna]

Not me!

He’s been doing his job for decades and has forgotten more about infectious diseases than you think you know. The good doc is the most reliable and non-political source of COVID information that is available.

By the way, why don’t you learn the proper spelling of his name.

[Tmarkwald]

Only when at least 80% of the population is vaccinated can we think about returning to normalcy.

All of the vaccines out there have an efficacy of around 95%. If you’ve been fully vaccinated you should behave like you’re one of the 5% until we hit the 80% vaccinated necessary for herd immunity.

You nailed it - this article says it all. 80% is the number for sure... Just read through to the end...

Fact check: Vaccination helped eliminate smallpox (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/12/fact-check-vaccination-helped-eliminate-smallpox/4124284001/)

[Windguy]

Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.
Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.

A: Welcome to the wonderful world of science where scientists use actual data to inform them instead of sticking to some dogma despite conflicting evidence.

B: In the early days, there was a shortage of masks and he and others wanted them to go to people most in need instead of the greedy, idiotic hoarders.

Would you really rather scientists stick to their original hypotheses forever instead of adjusting recommendations as new data come in?

[LoisR]

Stupidity is amazing. Just do what he says and live life long and prosper. It's certainly better than a glass of chlorine.

[Nannyof3]

early on someone else said "15 cases, by the end of the month it will bee ZERO"
:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

[Tmarkwald]

Stupidity is amazing. Just do what he says and live life long and prosper. It's certainly better than a glass of chlorine.

Sheep follow blindly....

[merrymini]

Tired of F and would not listen to anything he says.
He did what he wanted, not what the administration wanted. He is a left guy.
He is a liar.
WHO lies.
CDC doe not have a clue.
Assumptions that masks actually work against this virus.
California shut down, Florida did not. Look at the numbers. Florida wins.
Vaccines not fully vetted, using population as guinea pigs for long term effects.
Most people who get the chinese flu, yes, the chinese flu, do not die.
Media has led the population by a ring in it’s preverbal nose.
If the death numbers from 2019 to 2020 are only 50,000 different, how did 500,000 people die from covid?
Don’t let facts get in the way!

[mydavid]

Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life. we can't go back to normal until enough people get the vaccine to create herd immunity, so do your part get the shot.:welcome:

[tvbound]

"Mixed messages" is simply another way of saying that as new science comes in, a person is willing to change their professional assessment. On the opposite side of that coin, lies those who can never admit they were wrong and refuse to change their minds, regardless of the facts showing otherwise. Let's be totally honest, the predominant criticism of Fauci (and others) are coming because of a single person - that has told the faithful on what to think.

[jbrown132]

[QUOTE=DeanFL;1907219].
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?[/QUOTE

Dr. Fauci’s job is supposed to be to recommend to the president a course of action based solely on medical or scientific evidence. This is only one input. The president then has to listen to his economic, education military advisors etc. and way all of these factors in creating a public policy. This is a no win situation for any, and I mean any president. What good is a perfectly healthy country If the country is destroyed economically, or our kid are left seriously behind and mentally broken. Unfortunately, Dr Fauci has reached a point where he cannot pass a camera by and believes he is in charge of public policy.

[graciegirl]

Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci)

[TSO/ISPF]

Re-read...................a statement of fact is not condemning. :ho:

Considering the subject of the original poster, I would say in that context, your statement of fact was a slight of the good Doctor.
:throwtomatoes:

[GypsyRN]

:ohdear:Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life.

:ohdear: What a Quack. His 15 mins of fame is LONGGGGG gone. Get the hook out.

[lkagele]

There was concern that people vaccinated could carry the virus for a short period of time and infect other people even though they were not in danger themselves. That's why Fauci was cautious about throwing away the masks.

Lately there's been a push by certain people to make Fauci the scapegoat for everything from A to Z and some of us are apparently buying it. It does not reflect well on us.

Interesting point and I think your observation is spot on. Fact of the matter is, this virus is uncontrollable. The best chance we would have had to perhaps limit the damage it would cause was by China when the virus first escaped into the general public.

You can be as upset as you want at Trump, Fauci, Biden (take your pick) but in reality it's China that should be getting 100% of the blame. Our partisan news media and politics are so absurd these days that instead of blaming the real culprit, we're blaming ourselves.

[Lindaws]

Sure agree with you. I don’t (AtAll) listen to his advice. I see my family when I want
NOT when someone like Fauci says I can. Our country has to wake up SOON

[jbrown132]

[QUOTE=DeanFL;1907219].
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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?[/QUOTE

Dr. Fauci’s job is supposed to be to recommend to the president a course of action based solely on medical or scientific evidence. This is only one input. The president then has to listen to his economic, education military advisors etc. and way all of these factors in creating a public policy. This is a no win situation for any, and I mean any president. What good is a perfectly healthy country If the country is destroyed economically, or our kid are left seriously behind and mentally broken. Unfortunately, Dr Fauci has reached a point where he cannot pass a camera by and believes he is in charge of public policy.

This was the original OP. Don’t know we’re my comment went.

[kenoc7]

I have 100% respect for Dr. Fauci's expertise and knowledge.

So do I.. With over 500,000 Americans dead it is truly incredible and sad that many people on this forum continue to question public health measures and the advice from Dr, Fauci. Wake up people - America has the worst death toll of all developed countries because leaders and a large slice of the population refused to advocate for or follow common-sense public health measures.

[Andyb]

He is part of the deep state, his job is to spread fear and a progressive agenda. Period.

[Cobullymom]

His knowledge and response are based on playing it safe. He only wants to guide us not tell us what to do. That not is job. His options are based on scientific research and first hand knowledge. So do kill the messenger and don’t play it safe. So if u don’t like him that’s fine. But don’t blame him for practicing safe science
I guess his examples of playing it safe included the time he sat side by side people at a baseball game with no mask on...while preaching to the country they couldn’t hug their own grandchildren...

[Cheryl Barrios]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year... The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

I know that you want to believe this - but he hasn't kept us alive for the past year and if you believe he has, he has also said that even if everyone was vaccinated we would still be wearing our masks, washing or hands, social distancing, and those with grandchildren would still not be able to see them.

I wear my mask (in public), I was my hands frequently and even when I should based on our "before Covid life", I social distance. I still go to the grocery store, the general stores I need to go to, restaurants, and family events. I know of large, large, large communities of people who aren't eligible for the vaccination because of their age who do the same. None have been hit with Covid unless they didn't know. The only people I know who have had it - stayed home, some ordered and picked up groceries wearing their masks the entire way in a car by themselves, they have walked outside with their masks on to get their mail or paper, and been alone every day all day. I feel very sad for them because they were too scared to do anything but still ended up with Covid.

Who knows the answers, even some of them? I don't believe Fauci does. I believe that right now he has the little-man syndrome - a little man, who sat by himself, who now has the world listening to him, and people dying everywhere who did.

[Cobullymom]

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2021 and Science is still not trusted by some. So sad.
Science? You mean subjective opinions? People love throwing that word science out there, as if they are the scientist...

[DeanFL]

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As a sidenote... WHY does the Media typically call the variants of Covid-19:

B.1.1.7, a.k.a. the U.K. variant. This strain, which was first detected in England, has a large number of mutations. The virus has since been detected around the world, including in the U.S.

B.1.351, a.k.a. the South African variant. This variant has some mutations in common with B.1.1.7,The variant was first detected in South Africa and was reported in the U.S. at the end of January.

P.1, a.k.a. the Brazilian variant. This variant was first detected in four travelers from Brazil The variant was detected in the U.S. at the end of January.

BUT most of the Media, and Fauci NEVER calls Covid-19 "The CHINA virus".


hmmm, one person always referred to the China Virus as the China Virus. hmmm. And as I recall when he did, much of the Media condemend that. And China did (and still does) NOT admit Covid-19 BEGAN in Wuhan. WHO, after a year, sent a delegation there to investigate the origins. ONE YEAR AFTER!!! And China Communist Media still asserts that Covid-19 began elsewhere - even from the USA.

Perhaps some are afraid to lay blame to China??? Even after killing over 500K Americans? Are some covering for China???
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[Cobullymom]

Absolutely agree 100%...
I guess only my posts that agree with someone are not censored and deleted, unlike several who have expressed very derogatory opinions about Fauci, my opinion of him, which are not good at all have been deleted, is anyone else having this issue?

[Cheryl Barrios]

Why did he say that? Money in it for his department. IMO he flip flops too much. Also why FDA dragging feet to evaluate J&J vaccine. That one going to be game changer IMO, you’ll be able to get at drug store, urgent care centers, doctor offices, anywhere where there a pharmacy.

Dragging their feet with J&J - yep, keeps the money where he wants it, in his pocket.

[richs631]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

I call him Dr. Fakkchi. He reminds me of judge Lance Ito from OJ Simpsons trial. This guy is more interested in TV time than anything else

[Cobullymom]

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As a sidenote... WHY does the Media typically call the variants of Covid-19:

B.1.1.7, a.k.a. the U.K. variant. This strain, which was first detected in England, has a large number of mutations. The virus has since been detected around the world, including in the U.S.

B.1.351, a.k.a. the South African variant. This variant has some mutations in common with B.1.1.7,The variant was first detected in South Africa and was reported in the U.S. at the end of January.

P.1, a.k.a. the Brazilian variant. This variant was first detected in four travelers from Brazil The variant was detected in the U.S. at the end of January.

BUT most of the Media, and Fauci NEVER calls Covid-19 "The CHINA virus".


hmmm, one person always referred to the China Virus as the China Virus. hmmm. And as I recall when he did, much of the Media condemend that. And China did (and still does) NOT admit Covid-19 BEGAN in Wuhan. WHO, after a year, sent a delegation there to investigate the origins. ONE YEAR AFTER!!! And China Communist Media still asserts that Covid-19 began elsewhere - even from the USA.

Perhaps some are afraid to lay blame to China??? Even after killing over 500K Americans? Are some covering for China???
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Thank you, yes it’s the China virus that started it all, before all of the other countries variants..excellent point.

[graciegirl]

I guess only my posts that agree with someone are not censored and deleted, unlike several who have expressed very derogatory opinions about Fauci, my opinion of him, which are not good at all have been deleted, is anyone else having this issue?

If that is happening, I do not agree with that at all. It has happened here before. It happens to me a lot.
Free speech is a wonderful thing, even though we don't all agree.

Anthony Fauci is someone I trust to give us advice about viruses and how they effect the public. He has advised Presidents since Ronald Reagan. He is skilled in science, but is human as well and not above giving his opinions sometimes on subjects unrelated to medicine. I think he has done very well for himself as a short guy from Brooklyn.

[richs631]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Dr. Faki has kept us alive. WOW, your drinking a lot of the kool aide

[Waltdisney4life]

Careful some people think he walks on water blind to the fact that he has a political agenda!!!

[Spalumbos62]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

And he backed off that and said he was incorrect...as an intelligent, moral person should do. Unlike others that threw suggestions of clorox out to the public.

He's human, it was all new and changing daily...how could anyone find fault under those circumstances...jezzzzzz

[Cobullymom]

If that is happening, I do not agree with that at all. It has happened here before. It happens to me a lot.
Free speech is a wonderful thing, even though we don't all agree.

Anthony Fauci is someone I trust to give us advice about viruses and how they effect the public. He has advised Presidents since Ronald Reagan. He is skilled in science, but is human as well and not above giving his opinions sometimes on subjects unrelated to medicine. I think he has done very well for himself as a short guy from Brooklyn.
Thank you, we finally agree! I appreciate your response....

[Cobullymom]

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This was the original OP. Don’t know we’re my comment went.
Probably got deleted like several of mine...

[GPGuar]

:bigbow:That is the truth? And how do you know that is the truth? Did you see it written on stone tablets? Or did you hear it from the same man who said wearing masks would give a false sense of security and would be worse than no mask at all.....until he changed his mind?

Fauci is dealing with new information and sometimes has to change guidance based on that new information. Unfortunately, he seems to also be leveraging his reputation to attempt to drive public behaviors. "Fauci said" is heard more often than "Simon says" these days. In the case of the masks, he acknowledged that part of the reason for his initial message was to preserve masks for doctors - he was trying to drive our behavior. In the case of the number of vaccinations needed for herd immunity he acknowledged that he increased his estimate when he learned that more people were accepting the vaccine - it was off to a good start so he could shoot higher and attempt to get even more people on board.

I trust his expertise but I don't trust the man. I believe he knows his field but I suspect this virus is doing things he doesn't expect and he's struggling to understand it. When he talks about science he has credibility but when he attempts to sway public opinion and drive behaviors he loses it.
:bigbow: Well said.

[nhtexasrn]

I don't know who is pulling this guy's strings, but it's not someone who cares about the American people.

[RedChariot]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Truth. As far as The Villagers with no masks - No fool like an old fool.

[Spalumbos62]

My mind boggled when he recently revealed that even when completely vaccinated and still practicing wearing masks, washing hands and social distancing we should not be dining in, going to movies/entertainment venues, visiting grandchildren, etc.

I thought he previously advised that being vaccinated would allow us to get back to some sort of normal!

If we have not suffered the virus in a year's time and we still can't do all of the above - why be vaccinated? We must be doing something right by not becoming ill during that one year period!

To me, it seems like people have mental blocks and only hear what they want. Right from the get go I heard that the vaccine is NOT the end all. We still will have to wear mask, keep distance, etc, etc because you can still carry it to others. That was said since day one!
It floors me that people think... oh now I can hug the grandkids, eat in a crowded restaurant... think about it...you're sitting next to dumb and dumber, who refused to get a shot and let's say they have it (and don't realize)....now its jumped to you...but you got your shot, it will basically leave you alone, but its with you. Now you head over to see grandkids....and there you go.

My biggest fear is all these children will come down with it bc g-ma & g-pa were misinformed.

They never said you won't carry it, or you won't ever get it again...you could-but it will be mild and not kill you.
So use common sense.

[Marykschulz]

Many people only believe the “information” that already fits with their previous beliefs. Information about Covid has changed as the science around it has learned more, so of course Fauci would change recommendations. I’m sticking with the science and Fauci.

[Joe C.]

Dr. Fauci hasn't kept me alive.......I've kept (by the grace of God) myself alive. I still travel, go to restaurants and keep myself busy. No vaccine for me, but I have always "washed my hands" and used common sense in most everything I do. But I WILL NOT listen to the public mouthpiece that permeates the media. I am in the "high risk" category but I have no worries.
BTW......Dr. Fauci makes on the high side of $400 thousand dollars a year.....not bad for a government employee. He should have retired fifteen years ago.

[Spalumbos62]

He did explain why they want 2 doses.

[kenoc7]

Interesting point and I think your observation is spot on. Fact of the matter is, this virus is uncontrollable. The best chance we would have had to perhaps limit the damage it would cause was by China when the virus first escaped into the general public.

You can be as upset as you want at Trump, Fauci, Biden (take your pick) but in reality it's China that should be getting 100% of the blame. Our partisan news media and politics are so absurd these days that instead of blaming the real culprit, we're blaming ourselves.

No the blame in America goes to those who reused to take COVID-19 seriously not China. Many countries have controlled the virus well with very few deaths. America has over 500,000 deaths - worst in the world

[ScottGo]

He needs to be taken behind the school for a beatin'. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

I am disappointed in him for many reasons. I'm like Quick Draw McGraw with the remote when he comes on TV.
What grade are you in, sounds like elementary school. GROW UP.

[Pat La Rosa]

Think about it. We in Florida who have a great Governor who has more common sense in his pinky than Dr. Fauci have had a pretty good year during this Pandemic. If he listened to Fauci we would have been in our houses all day twiddling our fingers. I have enjoyed going out for dinner at least 3 or 4 times a week all year as well as playing golf every day with no adverse affects. Thank God I moved the hell out of New Jersey. All my friends there are complaining about their stupid governor who has his head up you know what. They want to get out of NJ as soon as they can. I told all my conservative friends to come to Florida and I told all my liberal friends (who I have many) to move to California since it has better weather than Florida. If I died tomorrow I would have a smile on my face because I wasn't scared by this jerk Fauci. God Bless America.

[bocaabend]

He’s so involved with himself. I can’t watch or listen to him and I definitely don’t trust him

[Nick B]

Who else is tired of the Covid debate in general?
We really don't know what to believe. Roll the dice take your chances.

[Spalumbos62]

Can't express how much I agree with you, just another self-promoting political animal and actually I am absolutely sure there are MANY more talented and skilled individuals than he, they just don't flaunt their political ambitions and insatiable deep need for media attention, to "be somebody". Also tired of the WHO head administrator, Tedros Adhanom, who uses "Dr." BEFORE his name, I am sure with the intent to be taken for an M.D., and who, although head of public health in.... let's see, where was it, Ethiopia I believe, does not actually hold any M.D. or Ph.D. in a non medical/scientific field. Unfortunately, the people of our country, and many others, do not chose the most qualified or the most naturally gifted in medicine, research, the law, etc., no, we go for the self promoters, the ones who hire a behind the scenes publicist, even in academia. No, it's not quite the same as those who work as entertainment/Hollywood promoters, but it's the same principle. They guide you in how to promote some pretty flimsy articles based on very poor research perimeters, poorly designed studies, and then "promote" this garbage "science" with the smoke and mirrors that serve to impress the vast majority of citizens who have no idea what to look for in a well constructed research study.... the variables, the standard deviations, the margins of error and what that might mean, etc. Believe me, the "cream" does not naturally rise to the top, these folks are self promoters and plan every inch of their "career" rise. They know quite smugly, they are of course, "smarter than the average bear", kind of like the self promoting architect of the Obama medical plan.... remember him on the hot mike ? Too bad, most American's spend a lot more time and research into what color automobile they will buy, than who they catapult to the highest positions and offices, even when it comes to their HEALTH and their education and the education of their children. Don't think it is likely to change either, many could not care less.

OMG.... blah,blah,blah, blah blah

[taruffi57]

All you need to do is research the good doctor's history and his very lucative connections to the pharmaceuticals industry. Why he is the virus spokesperson makes no sense.

[Bucco]

Careful some people think he walks on water blind to the fact that he has a political agenda!!!

You will, of course, explain his political agenda.

That would make this an intelligent discussions.

Then, we can begin a thread on the insane, crazy theories distributed while Faucci was muzzled.

You know, the ongoing things, none of which occurred, and cost numerous lives. “Numerous” was a kind way to put it. Listening to just Faucci would have had its moments on the learning curve, but we would have more Americans to hear it, and would never had the run on a drug proposed to be the cure, never waited for warm weather so it could simply go away, and numerous other ridiculous statements.

[deestatham@aol.com]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?


I agree. I don’t trust Fauci. He’s in over his head. I liked the woman but she has retired. I think he’s part of the problem and has an investment in all this.

[stebooo]

He changed his political affiliation IMO. It was obvious. He isn't just a great physician otherwise he would just keep his mouth shut and advise officials. He loves it. Dr atlas who has a very different position has been shut down from the left. They, the left , don't even try to hide it anymore

[Spalumbos62]

Exactly.

He chose to be silent rather than speak up.

If you don't have any integrity left, better to keep the mouth shut.

You're kidding right?? Trump ridiculed him way back bc Trump didn't like/agree with fauci and would take the mic, he did the same to Birx.

[haysus7]

Science changes with data

[Two Bills]

I trust my wife's, and my own judgement.
Got us into our 80's relatively unscathed.
We listen, read, and make our own decisions.
Works for us!

[1948JDG]

He's a doctor and probably a damn good one. He deserves every penny.

[Ele201]

I think Dr. Fauci is doing his best to protect American citizens. He seems to advise us using a lot of caution. But is he too cautious? I must say I was taken aback when he recently advised against dining at restaurants. That contradicts what our governors are doing, which is allowing indoor dining. So which is it? That’s definitely an example of mixed messages and quite confusing.

[RuthA]

I don't believe anything he says. Too many conflicting comments!

[Peazoup]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[rmd2]

Obama had banned the study of the coronavirus in the US because it was "dangerous". Fauci at NIH funded the coronavirus development in Wuhan using over 7 million of taxpayer dollars. The whole world gets the coronavirus. Then Fauci steps in to "save the day". Now Fauci is providing new funding to develop and study viruses in Wuhan again. Does anyone else see the lunacy of Fauci and this health policy?

[Kandytalk]

This virus is still evolving. It is CHANGING to survive. That is why Dr. Fauci wants to give you current scientific facts. I don’t see why people cannot understand this.

[graciegirl]

All you need to do is research the good doctor's history and his very lucative connections to the pharmaceuticals industry. Why he is the virus spokesperson makes no sense.

You know, follow the money is a very good bit of advice. But here I feel that something else is motivating this post. There are a lot of people who do not see medical people unless they are sick, which is not a good plan as we age. Most of us reading your post right now take several medications to stay well; Blood pressure medicine and statins for two. Some people depend on alternative medicine and unproven vitamins and supplements and even Marijuana products to help with their wellness. I do not trust alternative medicine and some people do not trust large Pharmaceutical companies. I think that they do make a lot of money and maybe too much on certain things at times but the research to get effective drugs is very expensive itself. I do not worship pharmaceutical companies but I am grateful to be here talking to you at the age of 81, largely due to the medications I take to prevent heart disease.

I do not think that Anthony Fauci is hanging with big pharma for the bucks. I think I am a pretty good judge of character. We don't have to like someone, as I do not like Tiger Woods because of his attitude, but I respect his skill with a driver and a pitching wedge and a putter. I don't know Anthony Fauci personally but he has gotten along with presidents for fifty years, both sides of the aisle. I think he was badly disrespected in the last year by those high in office...One I voted for and supported in other ways. Not all M.D.s are great or even good, but generally their I.Q. falls in the top five percent of the population. I think Fauci is smart. But he is not perfect.

[jimh24444@gmail.com]

Fauci is 100% bought and paid for by big Pharma

[DanBrew]

What? Did you forget about maleria, tuberculosis, leporasy, smallpox, influenza? The list goes on. This guy hasn't kept anyone alive. He is a total full of crap Washington bureaucrat. If you are a doctor and haven't figured out yet how viruses spread, you have no credibility. Yes, this one is different, but it is a virus. They have existed in our ecosystem for a very long time. Wash your hands, don't touch your face, etc. I don't need a blowhard Washington dipwad full of himself to tell me that, but then again, I am an independent that has and never will rely on the government to do anything for me. They do, however, enjoy taking from me.

[graciegirl]

Fauci is 100% bought and paid for by big Pharma

How can you support that argument?

P.S. Do YOU take blood pressure medication?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Yes, I know that. I did say to look at the 4th bullet point which indicates to me that a vaccinated person who is exposed to Covid does not have to quarantine. We are still waiting for definite word from the experts and organizations such as the CDC to let us know if in fact vaccinated people have a low enough viral load to not be able to transmit the disease. We must wait at this point to see if in fact the mRNA vaccines will prevent transmission in vaccinated people. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

...as long as they continue following CDC recommendations:

wear a mask, social distance, wash your hands.

If you (and everyone else) does these things, then someone who is EXPOSED to Covid, but doesn't actually have it themselves, does not have to quarantine.

I've been exposed to it, I have no doubt. I worked in retail all last year. There's no way I could have NOT been exposed to it.

But because I social distanced, wore a mask, and washed my hands, the risk of my passing it to other people, was minimal, if non-existent.

UNLESS the people who were in close proximity to me insisted on not wearing a mask, getting up close and personal with me (some customers actually tried to hug me, or shake my hand, or give me a fond squeeze on the shoulder - which under other circumstances I'd be fine with).

[rmd2]

Is he the only one who knows about COVID? I’d like to hear from other MDs and researchers please ..... why are we putting all the eggs in his basket?

They did have a panel of researchers and front line doctors with Senator Johnson as facilitator. The discussion was the banning of hydroxychloroquin for the treatment of COVID. These doctors said hydroxy should have never been banned. It was used safely for decades and was inexpensive. There have been other researchers that have questioned the safety of the current vaccine which is not made up of virus material like other vaccines in the past.

[kathy1516]

Fauci is a political hack. I trust nothing he says. His messages change depending on who he’s trying to please.

[Chi-Town]

A lot of people here discredit Dr. Fauci but have no replacement suggestions. So in the meanwhile wear a mask, socially distance, use hand sanitizer, and get your shots. I'm sick of this past year.

[rmd2]

Dr. Fauci hasn't kept me alive.......I've kept (by the grace of God) myself alive. I still travel, go to restaurants and keep myself busy. No vaccine for me, but I have always "washed my hands" and used common sense in most everything I do. But I WILL NOT listen to the public mouthpiece that permeates the media. I am in the "high risk" category but I have no worries.
BTW......Dr. Fauci makes on the high side of $400 thousand dollars a year.....not bad for a government employee. He should have retired fifteen years ago.

Salary quote is low. It's 1/2 million BEFORE bonuses so it's much more.

[Bucco]

They did have a panel of researchers and front line doctors with Senator Johnson as facilitator. The discussion was the banning of hydroxychloroquin for the treatment of COVID. These doctors said hydroxy should have never been banned. It was used safely for decades and was inexpensive. There have been other researchers that have questioned the safety of the current vaccine which is not made up of virus material like other vaccines in the past.

First there were THREE...3...who testified in support...

"Reflecting on the hearing afterward, Jha said it was “stunning” because it pushed the view that mitigation measures such as wearing masks and maintaining social distance are unimportant because the illness can easily be treated with hydroxychloroquine.
“I tried to explain that doctors don’t want to kill their patients by withhold[ing] therapy,” he tweeted. “But evidence matters They tried to flip the narrative: that evidence was misinformation And ‘art of medicine’ was what mattered.”
Jha added: “The hearing was a testament to how politicized science has become."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/20/hydroxychloroquine-covid-senate-hearing/

The drug you tout, I have taken for a number of years....it served me well....Rhumatoid Arthritis....it also has been used for years on malaria. As a result of preaching about this from the "pulpit" there was a "run" on the drug by many simpletons, and I was unable to have my prescription filled (also our government spent millions to stock pile the drug)

There are no short cuts

[Bucco]

A lot of people here discredit Dr. Fauci but have no replacement suggestions. So in the meanwhile wear a mask, socially distance, use hand sanitizer, and get your shots. I'm sick of this past year.

He is discredited simply to satisfy the extremists in our country. Their preference is that it does not matter how many die, as long as we can keep attacking others who actually are real patriots and work for our country.

[Bucco]

Fauci is 100% bought and paid for by big Pharma

Link to prove your baseless, immature slur ???

Heck, even one bullet point would be an improvement.

Some on here know only slander/attack

[Bucco]

Obama had banned the study of the coronavirus in the US because it was "dangerous". Fauci at NIH funded the coronavirus development in Wuhan using over 7 million of taxpayer dollars. The whole world gets the coronavirus. Then Fauci steps in to "save the day". Now Fauci is providing new funding to develop and study viruses in Wuhan again. Does anyone else see the lunacy of Fauci and this health policy?

You are very good at making accusations but short on any kind of detail.

Last I experienced that was in grade school.....learn to read and comprehend

[Bucco]

You know, follow the money is a very good bit of advice. But here I feel that something else is motivating this post. There are a lot of people who do not see medical people unless they are sick, which is not a good plan as we age. Most of us reading your post right now take several medications to stay well; Blood pressure medicine and statins for two. Some people depend on alternative medicine and unproven vitamins and supplements and even Marijuana products to help with their wellness. I do not trust alternative medicine and some people do not trust large Pharmaceutical companies. I think that they do make a lot of money and maybe too much on certain things at times but the research to get effective drugs is very expensive itself. I do not worship pharmaceutical companies but I am grateful to be here talking to you at the age of 81, largely due to the medications I take to prevent heart disease.

I do not think that Anthony Fauci is hanging with big pharma for the bucks. I think I am a pretty good judge of character. We don't have to like someone, as I do not like Tiger Woods because of his attitude, but I respect his skill with a driver and a pitching wedge and a putter. I don't know Anthony Fauci personally but he has gotten along with presidents for fifty years, both sides of the aisle. I think he was badly disrespected in the last year by those high in office...One I voted for and supported in other ways. Not all M.D.s are great or even good, but generally their I.Q. falls in the top five percent of the population. I think Fauci is smart. But he is not perfect.


Hate to say this, but this is a result of the "nutters" on Facebook once again.

Why are posters so inclined to simply completely mouth a strangers words because they want to believe it, and then actually allow it to show beneath their user name.

Embarrassing to be so doggone uninformed and weak.

Fact-check: Does Anthony Fauci have millions invested in a coronavirus vaccine? - News - Austin American-Statesman - Austin, TX (https://www.statesman.com/news/20200416/fact-check-does-anthony-fauci-have-millions-invested-in-coronavirus-vaccine)

Fact check: Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates won't profit from remdesivir (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/14/fact-check-anthony-fauci-bill-gates-wont-profit-remdesivir/3120063001/)

[Buckeye Bob]

Dr. Fauci is an ego maniac with a Napolean syndrome. I wouldn't listen to him if he was the last doctor on earth. Should have been fired by Trump a long tome ago.

I don't trust Fauci or any of the Covid numbers. There are too many false positive tests. The numbers who died from Covid are skewed. Heart attacks, cancer patients in hospice, etc. considered a Covid death. 🤬🤬
Fauci gets more TV time than a weatherman in the middle of a hurricane.

[Byte1]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?

Faucci has always been a political hack for the left. I have never trusted anything he says. He's been working for the gov for over two decades.

[Byte1]

Could it be that things change because we learn more? The vaccine will protect you and if you don't care about others you can go back to normal. They don't know if, even though you probably won't get sick, if you can carry and spread. So if that's a possibility you decide if you want to protect your friends, kids and grand kids.

Studies indicate that once inoculated and wait the prescribed two weeks, there is no reason to believe you will carry or infect anyone else if you happen to be exposed to the virus. That is another reason NOT to believe anything he says. And as far as worrying about other folks after you get the shots, why? If they do not get their shots, they are the ones that should be careful, not me.

[Byte1]

Just after January 20th, Dr. Fauci made an announcement on TV and he said he can FINALLY be transparent to Americans about the pandemic. He said he would always tell the American people the truth now that he can be transparent.

What does that tell ya????

That he's full of s***!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Obama had banned the study of the coronavirus in the US because it was "dangerous". Fauci at NIH funded the coronavirus development in Wuhan using over 7 million of taxpayer dollars. The whole world gets the coronavirus. Then Fauci steps in to "save the day". Now Fauci is providing new funding to develop and study viruses in Wuhan again. Does anyone else see the lunacy of Fauci and this health policy?

This coronavirus didn't exist when Obama was President. It didn't exist until late 2019. Obama ceased to be a current president January 20, 2017.

Parler, whale.to, Prison Planet, Qanon, etc - are not reliable sources. Try something a little more middle-of-the-road. Like us.gov

[DeanFL]

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Here's an example of why I opened this Thread about Fauci. WHY would he even bring up this topic if he was simply a doctor providing MEDICAL and DATA and SCIENTIFIC information to the Public in order for us to be educated on how to deal with this Pandemic?

Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared very giddy during his debut appearance on "The Rachel Maddow Show" on Friday night and suggested the Trump administration previously "blocked" him from coming on the MSNBC program.

"I've been wanting to come on your show for months and months," Fauci confessed to the liberal star. "You've been asking me to come on your show for months and months and it's just gotten blocked! I mean, let's call it what it is! It just got blocked because they didn't like the way you handle things and they didn't want me on."

"I mean, it was so clear when [they] sent it down, 'Why would you want to go on Rachel Maddow's show?' Well, because I like her and she's really good. 'It doesn't make any difference. Don't do it,'" Fauci continued to a chuckling Maddow.

Fauci went on to tell Maddow he doesn't think she is "going to see" efforts by the Biden administration to hold him back from speaking to the press and that she'll see "a lot of transparency" from the new leadership in Washington.

"You might not see everybody as often as you want, but you're not going to see deliberate holding back of good people when the press asks for them," Fauci explained.

Fauci, who was tapped by President Biden to be a White House adviser during the transition, previously indicated that working for the new president has been "liberating."

"I can tell you I take no pleasure at all in being in a situation of contradicting the president, so it was really something that you didn’t feel you could actually say something and there wouldn’t be any repercussions about it," Fauci said Thursday. "The idea that you can get up here and talk about what you know, what the evidence and science is, and know that’s it — let the science speak — it is somewhat of a liberating feeling."
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PLEASE Doc - just provide us all INFORMATION and NOT your personal views etc. And WHEN will schools open across the country? What about the VERY positive Data/News re Cases and Deaths in the last month or so? What about loosening up SHUTDOWNS across the country? Why do YOU openly promote the new proposed $1.9 TRILLION plan - when there is SO MUCH UNSPENT $$$ Billions of the previous Covid programs? Data and Science please - NOT political views or such.
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[cathy34787]

The information about the virus and the vaccines change on an almost daily basis. They don’t know what they don’t know yet. Changes are going to occur in any basically unknown situation and you change with it or be left in the dust. We’ve not experienced this before. Just have to see how it plays out. I got the vaccine but still don’t feel completely immune and sure wouldn’t want to give it to someone else.

[Byte1]

This is another reason that I do not trust anything that the lil' doctor has to say:

After Hillary's congressional hearing:
"From your doctor admirer

From: Fauci, Anthony (NIH/NIAID) [E] [mailto:AFAUCI@niaid.nih.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:10 PM

To: Mills, Cheryl D
Subject: Today's performance

Cheryl:

Anyone who had any doubts about the Secretary's stamina and capability following her illness had those doubts
washed away by today's performance before the Senate and the House. She faced extremely difficult circumstances at
the Hearings and still she hit it right out of the park. Please tell her that we all love her and are very proud to know her.

Warm regards,
Tony"

Like I said, he is nothing more than a political hack.

[Jerry Leinsing]

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.
I am surprised at all the idiots who post on here that find fault with those trying to do a good job with the info at hand. Having a battle of wits with them is like fighting with an unarmed man. No challenge. The best suggestion I heard came from a mask wearing believer that said, “Those of you who want to resist all the precautions should have a real nice photo taken of themselves so their kin might have something to remember them by in case their luck is also shortsighted.
Paying attention to political figures for information on a subject like this is also shortsighted. What happened to independent thinkers that can listen to men like Dr. Fauci and weigh the possibility that he is right or almost right most of the time.

[Neils]

Fauci is a politician. Loves the TV

[Serendipatti]

With something novel like Covid-19, science changes rapidly. What experts believe or say one day may be shown to be wrong just a few days later through additional research and information. He's not God. He also was working under some tight constraints and encouraged by one particular ex-political whack-job to give out not-so-honest information.

[Joe V.]

He also was working under some tight constraints and encouraged by one particular ex-political whack-job to give out not-so-honest information.

Prove that. With facts. Not hyperbole produced by your mind..

[Lindsyburnsy]

Early on he didn't have the same information that he now has. Dr. Fauci has worked with numerous Presidents and never has he been hated on or needed personal security as he does now. So, yah, let's keep piling on.



:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

[Pallvl]

Fauci is consistently inconsistent. In my book, he has ZERO credibility.

It's like he is trying to keep everyone happy.

In the beginning the wind was blowing one way, then the wind shifted and he shifted as well...

I do not trust him..

As a retired RN, I couldn't agree with you more. He is a double minded man unstable in all his ways.

[dewilson58]

So, yah, let's keep piling on.
How am I piling on?? Please explain.

[valuemkt]

Fauci gets the same treatment I give BLM, WOKE and White Supremacist Talk: A quick change of the channel

[Bucco]

As a retired RN, I couldn't agree with you more. He is a double minded man unstable in all his ways.

And your validation for this attack is....?

Seems to happen quite a bit.....attack and then just slips your mind to say why ?

Like “lots of people”, or “many people”.

[Bucco]

Early on he didn't have the same information that he now has. Dr. Fauci has worked with numerous Presidents and never has he been hated on or needed personal security as he does now. So, yah, let's keep piling on.

There is a group,sadly a large group, who only know....”forget facts, we need to hate him and attack him personally”.

To these people, it is not “piling on”...it is doing the work of those who are mired in hate, cannot understand, let alone discuss what needs to be discussed.

[Astron]

:shrug:
Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.


:shrug:

Science works by making a statement based on available knowledge and then researching the subject. If you are correct, continue research. If the research proves your hypothesis was incorrect you implement the research findings and continue to research what the new findings suggest.
Early on it was a hypothesis that the primary vector of infection would be surface contamination and not airborne transmission. When research found airborne transmission was the primary route of infection, public health recommendations were updated to reflect research findings and research continued along the lines that looked promising.
Science is a process of learning through the testing of hypothesis, it is not a crystal ball providing instant and infallible answers. Doctor Fauci is trying to provide the best current public health guidelines based on ongoing and evolving research of a new and novel virus that we have only been researching for months. He has decades of proven expertise in this, but good science takes time and is going to lead to needed changes in public health recommendations as the understanding of COVID19 grows and the virus mutates.

[cj740@comcast.net]

I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.


Are you a banker?

[Bucco]

I am surprised at all the idiots who post on here that find fault with those trying to do a good job with the info at hand. Having a battle of wits with them is like fighting with an unarmed man. No challenge. The best suggestion I heard came from a mask wearing believer that said, “Those of you who want to resist all the precautions should have a real nice photo taken of themselves so their kin might have something to remember them by in case their luck is also shortsighted.
Paying attention to political figures for information on a subject like this is also shortsighted. What happened to independent thinkers that can listen to men like Dr. Fauci and weigh the possibility that he is right or almost right most of the time.

“Idiots” is kind and lacking some adjectives like....uninformed, easily led, lacking their own min, Eric.

[Bucco]

Faucci has always been a political hack for the left. I have never trusted anything he says. He's been working for the gov for over two decades.

Do you have any validation, or just another “drive by personal accusation” ?

[Bucco]

Are you a banker?

Nah.....just someone who fancies himself to be funny...probably just fancies himself.

[Bucco]

Just after January 20th, Dr. Fauci made an announcement on TV and he said he can FINALLY be transparent to Americans about the pandemic. He said he would always tell the American people the truth now that he can be transparent.

What does that tell ya????

That he's full of s***!

Very clearly tells me, despite high end “obstacles” he wanted to be honest and straightforward with the American public, as he has been under a number of presidents, etc, and now he can talk without being censored because he is being truthful

[Bucco]

All you need to do is research the good doctor's history and his very lucative connections to the pharmaceuticals industry. Why he is the virus spokesperson makes no sense.

What specific “ lucrative connections” do you speak of ?

[Holpat39]

Unfortunately Dr. Fauci has become a political pawn.

[Bucco]

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As a sidenote... WHY does the Media typically call the variants of Covid-19:

B.1.1.7, a.k.a. the U.K. variant. This strain, which was first detected in England, has a large number of mutations. The virus has since been detected around the world, including in the U.S.

B.1.351, a.k.a. the South African variant. This variant has some mutations in common with B.1.1.7,The variant was first detected in South Africa and was reported in the U.S. at the end of January.

P.1, a.k.a. the Brazilian variant. This variant was first detected in four travelers from Brazil The variant was detected in the U.S. at the end of January.

BUT most of the Media, and Fauci NEVER calls Covid-19 "The CHINA virus".


hmmm, one person always referred to the China Virus as the China Virus. hmmm. And as I recall when he did, much of the Media condemend that. And China did (and still does) NOT admit Covid-19 BEGAN in Wuhan. WHO, after a year, sent a delegation there to investigate the origins. ONE YEAR AFTER!!! And China Communist Media still asserts that Covid-19 began elsewhere - even from the USA.

Perhaps some are afraid to lay blame to China??? Even after killing over 500K Americans? Are some covering for China???
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Would calling them by a name that you and YOU agree on make this any better ?

Sort of typical...ignore the issue or problem and find someone to blame

[coffeebean]

Sheep follow blindly....

I notice you did not comment on post #82. I would have commented but prefer not to be banned from this site.

[graciegirl]

Science works by making a statement based on available knowledge and then researching the subject. If you are correct, continue research. If the research proves your hypothesis was incorrect you implement the research findings and continue to research what the new findings suggest.
Early on it was a hypothesis that the primary vector of infection would be surface contamination and not airborne transmission. When research found airborne transmission was the primary route of infection, public health recommendations were updated to reflect research findings and research continued along the lines that looked promising.
Science is a process of learning through the testing of hypothesis, it is not a crystal ball providing instant and infallible answers. Doctor Fauci is trying to provide the best current public health guidelines based on ongoing and evolving research of a new and novel virus that we have only been researching for months. He has decades of proven expertise in this, but good science takes time and is going to lead to needed changes in public health recommendations as the understanding of COVID19 grows and the virus mutates.

Well said, with no ax to grind and stated positively without criticism of anyone. SO NICE to read.

[Vernon Hud]

First of all, I don't think that any of you that are complaing about Dr. Fauci, would like to have his job, or could do his job. I think he did great just surviving Trump. The man probably has the most stressful job in this country, trying to keep more people from dying. He gets asked a lot of tough questions, and now days with all the new variants, it is hard to keep up without making a mistake which could cost more lives. Give the man a break, I think he is doing a great job. And by the way, there are a lot of people that make way more than our President. Just read the sports page.

[Number 10 GI]

Fauci has become addicted to the media spotlight just like a junkie is addicted to heroin. He and the junkie will do or say anything to get their "fix". He says so many things to get his words quoted in the national media that like a congenital liar, he trips over his lies and has to tell new lies to gloss over the earlier ones.

[coffeebean]

Obama had banned the study of the coronavirus in the US because it was "dangerous". Fauci at NIH funded the coronavirus development in Wuhan using over 7 million of taxpayer dollars. The whole world gets the coronavirus. Then Fauci steps in to "save the day". Now Fauci is providing new funding to develop and study viruses in Wuhan again. Does anyone else see the lunacy of Fauci and this health policy?

Not according to this fact check......
No, Dr. Anthony Fauci did not fund research tied to COVID ‘creation’ (https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/09/covid-dr-anthony-fauci-did-not-fund-research-tied-creation/4450338001/)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Faucci has always been a political hack for the left. I have never trusted anything he says. He's been working for the gov for over two decades.

Yup and half of those years, he was working for a CONSERVATIVE government. He's about as bipartisan as it gets. The alt-right can't stand that.

And his name is Fauci, not Faucci.

[toniandjosef@aol.com]

Regarding salary: did you know that there is a school superintendent that’s right school superintendent of which there are hundreds in New York State that makes double that’s right double what the governor does. That’s how absolutely crazy things are!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Science works by making a statement based on available knowledge and then researching the subject. If you are correct, continue research. If the research proves your hypothesis was incorrect you implement the research findings and continue to research what the new findings suggest.
Early on it was a hypothesis that the primary vector of infection would be surface contamination and not airborne transmission. When research found airborne transmission was the primary route of infection, public health recommendations were updated to reflect research findings and research continued along the lines that looked promising.
Science is a process of learning through the testing of hypothesis, it is not a crystal ball providing instant and infallible answers. Doctor Fauci is trying to provide the best current public health guidelines based on ongoing and evolving research of a new and novel virus that we have only been researching for months. He has decades of proven expertise in this, but good science takes time and is going to lead to needed changes in public health recommendations as the understanding of COVID19 grows and the virus mutates.

This is something anyone who's ever taken a science course in public school would know. You can't even blame it on "getting too old to remember this stuff" because Dr. Fauci is 80 and he has no problem remembering.

[coffeebean]

The information about the virus and the vaccines change on an almost daily basis. They don’t know what they don’t know yet. Changes are going to occur in any basically unknown situation and you change with it or be left in the dust. We’ve not experienced this before. Just have to see how it plays out. I got the vaccine but still don’t feel completely immune and sure wouldn’t want to give it to someone else.

Yesterday marked my 14th day after my second shot of the Moderna vaccine. I feel pretty darn safe at this point. Having said that, I will continue to mask and distance from others and keep my hands off my face.

PS..... will someone PLEASE inform our President to NOT TOUCH HIS FACE. Seems he is always fidgeting and touching his eyes and nose.

[coffeebean]

Prove that. With facts. Not hyperbole produced by your mind..

Did you read what Dr. Fauci said to Rachael Maddow on her show? The post is up thread a bit. That is proof enough for me.

[coffeebean]

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Very clearly tells me, despite high end “obstacles” he wanted to be honest and straightforward with the American public, as he has been under a number of presidents, etc, and now he can talk without being censored because he is being truthful

I don't know how your quote got messed up but I AM NOT the poster who said Dr. Fauci is full of s**t. I would never say that about this highly respected doctor.

[Swoop]

Of course the Universal masking and social distancing request was to slow the spread. No one ever said wearing masks would eradicate the virus. And...... your point is?????
Did you even bother to read the post I responded to??? It said: “The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile”. Now do you get what my point was?!?

[Bucco]

After these almost 200 posts, I'm not feel condemning at all.




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Great...then you can explain why this thread was started ? Good info for Villagers....practical advice....make the virus disappear.....supply credible useful data....

Pick one

[dewilson58]

Great...then you can explain why this thread was started ? Good info for Villagers....practical advice....make the virus disappear.....supply credible useful data.... Pick one
I can't pick one......I can't read Dean's mind.
But thanks for asking.

[Nucky]

When this entire situation was in its infancy I remember telling my wife that instead of trying to follow all the advisers on television lets boil it down to two people. We picked Fauci and Dr Mark Siegel.

As time went on we noticed that Fauci seemed to Waffle on many different items that he was supposed to be advising the American People on. He lost our attention when he proved to be about as Stable As Jello. He is either a very confused person or he delivers very confusing messages.

I wish him no harm but I wouldn't mind seeing some new blood in his position. Maybe someone who could reenergize the effort to make some major progress.

I don't know that Fauci acting differently at a ballgame or in front of the camera would have made one bit of difference. I just drove past two different adult pools and they were jammed with people.

[jimjamuser]

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Many times in the last year during Covid-19, I felt that Dr. Faucci was very informative, engaging, and presented information well. During the last months, my attitude has changed. I now feel that he is a Media hog, bends to political influence, and does not consider other factors impacting our overall "Health". There are many of Faucci quotes during the past 12 months that are confusing and erroneous.

But NOW I agree with Rubio> "Dr. Fauci is a very good public-health official. His job is to advise policy makers and inform the public," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said on Tuesday. "But his job is NOT to decide what we can do, where we can go or which places can open or close And his job is NOT to mislead or scare us into doing the 'right things.'"

And his floundering of opening schools and lockdowns- terrible.

But his LATEST --- Fauci on Sunday declined to say on CNN that grandparents who are fully vaccinated could see their grandchildren, saying "I don't want to be making a recommendation now on public TV. I would want to sit down with the team, take a look at that."

So, if Faucci represents "Science", that's fine - but just as important to the Medical HEALTH of US citizens is Financial Health and Emotional Health. I don't believe that he takes everything into consideration for us all in terms of OVERALL Health.

Side note> Do you know that Faucci makes more in salary than the US President?
as far as Fauci waiting on recommending vaccinated grandparents should hug their grandchildren - recent research " suggests" (?) that they would NOT spread it to their grandkids. But it is NOT CONCLUSIVELY proven. That would take more time and tests. Fauci can't give an opinion because people look to him for definitive answers and the CV situation is NOT DEFINITIVE - it is evolving. There are even some small cases of fully vaccinated adults re-acquiring CV. That could happen from asymptomatic children even. That is why the CDC guidance says to continue to take precautions (masks and distancing) Fauci can NOT go against that guidance until CV is totally understood and fought to a standstill. People HOPE for everything to be normal, but there is STILL a long way to go. Letting your guard down will make things worse, not better.

[jimjamuser]

Who else is tired of the Covid debate in general?
It's not boring if you need the information to save your life and others' lives.

[Jean G]

On January 25th, 2021 the WHO (World Health Organization) declared there is NO VALUE OR BENEFIT TO WEARING A MASK. That was buried in by the news media. The same day Fauci said to wear two masks. The media ran with that. That was the last day I listened to anything Fauci has said.

[Bucco]

On January 25th, 2021 the WHO (World Health Organization) declared there is NO VALUE OR BENEFIT TO WEARING A MASK. That was buried in by the news media. The same day Fauci said to wear two masks. The media ran with that. That was the last day I listened to anything Fauci has said.

Will you please supply a link please as to your source. What media do you reference ?

[jimjamuser]

This is a reply I made on another forum. This was my response to someone who claimed that Dr. Fauci said we did not have to wear masks if we were not symptomatic..........

I truly believe Dr. Fauci lied alright and I will never forgive him, even if it came from the top to tell the American people this lie. The reason I say this is because Dr. Fauci has worked with respiratory viruses his entire career and has devoted his life's work to epidemiology. The influenza virus has asymptomatic carriers of the virus so it was very possible the Covid virus would also. Why not err on the safe side???



Respiratory viruses are transmitted by droplets and aerosols and the Covid virus is no different. Dr. Fauci knew this. I understand why he lied. He even said he lied to us but for a good reason. He said he did not want Americans to purchase all the PPE that the health care professionals needed to take care of sick Covid patients. He apologized for the lie. I heard him say it in an interview on TV.



I honestly think if he and the administration at the time. were honest with the American people, we could have had a handle on the pandemic better than we have faired. Home made masks were better than nothing for protection but very effective for source control. All Dr. Fauci had to tell the American people was to cover our faces when in public with anything other than N95 or KN95 masks. Leave those N95 and KN95 masks for the health care professionals who are on the front lines fighting the war against Covid.



Just out of curiosity, early on in the pandemic, I went to Amazon to see how many N95 or KN95 masks there were and how much they were. To my surprise, every single listing for N95 or KN95 masks were blocked off to the public. They were only for sale for health care providers and health care facilities. That is all it took to prevent the general public from preventing those supplies from going to the health care professionals.



I firmly believe Dr. Fauci's hands were "tied" by his boss at the time. And I'm so damn mad about that!
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Having said all that.......I would like to add to this above comment that I still do trust Dr. Fauci. He made it very clear to the American people in months after the pandemic began, that he did lie about us not needing masks if we were not having symptoms but for a good reason. At least he admitted to the lie which, to me, is a testament to the man's character. He finally told us the truth which is more than I can say for his previous boss.
Very early on, people tried to buy up ALL the N-95 and KN-95 that they could find for the intent of "price gouging" Dr. Fauci and others tried to lessen that to get the masks in the hands of Hospital workers only.

[jimjamuser]

Truer words were never spoken. IMHO, I have always thought that if EVERYONE wore a mask in public AND kept a safe distance from others ALL THE TIME, we would not be in this mess of a pandemic.
There is proof. Australia and South Korea followed guidelines and they are NOT # 1 in CV deaths like the US. The US stupidity and false pride (like these posts) made us # 1.

[Katieburr]

Like I said, protocols and directives are changing every day and that’s why he changes course. When things like mutations and new vaccines are thrown into the mix, he has to adjust everything. And with all that he is shouldering he still manages to keep us all informed. I thank God for Dr Fauci.

[Bucco]

On January 25th, 2021 the WHO (World Health Organization) declared there is NO VALUE OR BENEFIT TO WEARING A MASK. That was buried in by the news media. The same day Fauci said to wear two masks. The media ran with that. That was the last day I listened to anything Fauci has said.

Got your source...
Again...Facebook....
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"A website screenshot being shared on Facebook has falsely claimed that the World Health Organization (WHO) said in a January 2021 press conference that it was advising people without symptoms of coronavirus not to wear face masks.

The screenshot was taken from a WordPress blog that has posted other unsubstantiated claims(here). On Jan. 25, an entry headlined “WHO: You do NOT need to wear a mask” was posted to the site, claiming the WHO had there was no medical reason to support the wearing of masks outside hospital (here). The post added that the comments were made during a press conference on Jan. 22, before linking to the WHO’s video page (WHO | World Health Organization (http://www.who.int)).

“In a telling admission made on January 22, 2021, the World Health Organization now say there is no scientific medical reason for any healthy person to wear a mask outside of a hospital,” the post read. “Sadly, our corrupt politicians and mainstream media only relate the bad news.

“If you do not have any respiratory symptoms, such as fever, cough, or runny nose, you do not need to wear a medical mask. When used alone, masks can give you a false feeling of protection and can even be a source of infection when not used correctly.”

This is not true. There was no such comment made during the Jan. 22 press conference, nor is this in line with the WHO’s guidance.

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Fact check: The World Health Organization did not change advice to say masks are not necessary | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-masks-idUSKBN29X2S5)

Why can't people go with reality.....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

When this entire situation was in its infancy I remember telling my wife that instead of trying to follow all the advisers on television lets boil it down to two people. We picked Fauci and Dr Mark Siegel.

As time went on we noticed that Fauci seemed to Waffle on many different items that he was supposed to be advising the American People on. He lost our attention when he proved to be about as Stable As Jello. He is either a very confused person or he delivers very confusing messages.

I wish him no harm but I wouldn't mind seeing some new blood in his position. Maybe someone who could reenergize the effort to make some major progress.

I don't know that Fauci acting differently at a ballgame or in front of the camera would have made one bit of difference. I just drove past two different adult pools and they were jammed with people.

You are either forgetting, or you choose to ignore, the fact that his employer at the time FORBADE him to talk. And when he tried delivering facts, his employer stepped on them and refuted them. Eventually, his employer refused to allow him to speak publicly at all, and replaced him someone else. That someone else at first tried to speak plainly but eventually she caved - until she eventually just walked away in frustration.

Dr. Fauci stayed the course, in media silence, continuing his research, continuing to DO HIS JOB, while his employer continued the blame game and patting himself on the back for killing "only" 100,000 people (at the time)...

And now that Dr. Fauci no longer has that particular employer, he can say what's on his mind, freely.

The only reason he buckled and obeyed his former employer in NOT talking to the media - was because he felt his research was more important than his sound bites.

Now, he gets to provide both again.