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CFrance
03-09-2021, 07:48 PM
I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.

Happinow
03-09-2021, 08:22 PM
I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.

I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO

CWGUY
03-09-2021, 08:31 PM
I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO

:shocked: I think that would be a pretty big secret to keep for decades but I'm no doctor...... although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :undecided:

graciegirl
03-09-2021, 08:38 PM
I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO

Everytime I hear someone say this or I read it, I could bite. There is no one in "Big Pharma" which by the way is the business and industry that researches and manufactures medicines to help us stay well and get well, there is no person who works in the large pharmaceutical companies that do not have someone or someones who have had cancer and someone who has died from cancer, among the people they care about or in their families. The stuff that Oncologist's prescribe for cancer are not on a long, long, list. They are the chemo's that kill cells and cancer at the same time, and just about kill you. ASK ME WHY I KNOW. There are anti-nausea drugs and steroids, but certainly not a huge list of "medicines" that are the center of their business. The highest selling drugs are Statins and they are worth their weight in gold. They have greatly reduced death by heart disease since they were introduced.

In my opinion what you said IS A DUMB CONSPIRACY THEORY......based on the real fact that Pharmacy manufacturers do charge very high prices. BUT they have the gold. And we need the gold. Wish I knew how to fix this so prices are more affordable, but people who work in this industry ARE NOT EVIL. AND they are not keeping the cures for the dozens of diseases all listed under the heading of cancer. Some do have prevention now. Pre-adolescents can be vaccinated against the virus that causes Cervical and ovarian cancer. Hodgkin's Lymphoma has some life saving treatments. Breast Cancer Survivors are increasing. Cancer is a number of different diseases and I believe how to stop them rests in Genetic Research. Your children will live to see them vanquished and we can than thank the people who have invested so much money in research.

Stu from NYC
03-09-2021, 09:57 PM
Everytime I hear someone say this or I read it, I could bite. There is no one in "Big Pharma" which by the way is the business and industry that researches and manufactures medicines to help us stay well and get well, there is no person who works in the large pharmaceutical companies that do not have someone or someones who have had cancer and someone who has died from cancer, among the people they care about or in their families. The stuff that Oncologist's prescribe for cancer are not on a long, long, list. They are the chemo's that kill cells and cancer at the same time, and just about kill you. ASK ME WHY I KNOW. There are anti-nausea drugs and steroids, but certainly not a huge list of "medicines" that are the center of their business. The highest selling drugs are Statins and they are worth their weight in gold. They have greatly reduced death by heart disease since they were introduced.

In my opinion what you said IS A DUMB CONSPIRACY THEORY......based on the real fact that Pharmacy manufacturers do charge very high prices. BUT they have the gold. And we need the gold. Wish I knew how to fix this so prices are more affordable, but people who work in this industry ARE NOT EVIL. AND they are not keeping the cures for the dozens of diseases all listed under the heading of cancer. Some do have prevention now. Pre-adolescents can be vaccinated against the virus that causes Cervical and ovarian cancer. Hodgkin's Lymphoma has some life saving treatments. Breast Cancer Survivors are increasing. Cancer is a number of different diseases and I believe how to stop them rests in Genetic Research. Your children will live to see them vanquished and we can than thank the people who have invested so much money in research.

I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.

Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.

CFrance
03-09-2021, 10:41 PM
And in answer to all of you above, these are the things I've either read about, heard about, or are rattling around in my mind. I was hoping to hear from an MD or a DO or a medical researcher as to what their opinions are. But I thank you for your opinions.

graciegirl
03-09-2021, 11:22 PM
I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.

Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.

Preventing disease and death to me is very important. I don't think that wellness is as simple as finding a pill or treatment to cure something. We all will die. Living longer in a body that allows you to find peace and joy in some things seems like a pretty good deal.

manaboutown
03-09-2021, 11:35 PM
Preventing disease and death to me is very important. I don't think that wellness is as simple as finding a pill or treatment to cure something. We all will die. Living longer in a body that allows you to find peace and joy in some things seems like a pretty good deal.

So far so good. At age 79 I take no meds and over my lifetime have been careful to follow a good diet and exercise regularly. I avoid processed foods such as Velveeta like the plague. I also avoid cheap fatty meats. That has probably helped.

Originally Velveeta was made from real cheese. Today, it's mainly whey protein concentrate, milk protein concentrate, milk, fat, and preservatives. By the Food and Drink Administration's standards, that's not real cheese—which is why the FDA forced Kraft to change its label from "cheese spread" to "cheese product."

Besides being high in calories, Velveeta is high in fat and sodium. The nutritional information on the package shows that the product has 6 g of fat per serving, but with 32 servings per box, you'll consume 196 g of fat should you use an entire box of regular Velveeta in a cheese dip or recipe.

Foods that Could Cause Cancer and Preventative Measures - Facty Health (https://facty.com/conditions/cancer/foods-that-could-cause-cancer/?style=quick&utm_source=adwords&adid=355876861637&ad_group_id=70363773525&utm_medium=c-search&utm_term=cancer%20diet&utm_campaign=FH-USA---Search---10-Foods-that-Cause-Cancer---Desktop&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-Kyfw_Ok7wIVh4bACh1YfQuAEAAYASAAEgIGC_D_BwE)

Garywt
03-10-2021, 01:10 AM
They say the same thing about diabetes. I take 2 different insulin’s as my doctor wanted me off all pills.

As for cancer, I am on a daily pill for 21 of 28 days. Those 21 pills run about $15,000 a month. In addition I have chemo currently once a month but it was once a week for about 16 weeks. Each visit runs about $50,000. Luckily for me I only need to come up with $6000 at the beginning of the year and then everything is free for the rest of the year. Of the $6000, $700 was covered by one drug company and I am waiting on another drug company to see how much of a $4900 bill they will cover.

It is big business for sure. A cure would be great but keeping me alive is working. Was diagnosed at age 49, was forced to retire at 56.

Dilligas
03-10-2021, 06:21 AM
I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.

Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.
Society in general does not maintain themselves in good health....over weight, too much salt, not enough exercise, over stressed, poor diets, etc. That’s what most of those pills are for.
PS..I am no different

La lamy
03-10-2021, 06:29 AM
I guess we don't have doctors who read TOTV! Still hoping for OP to get responses from them, it's a very good question.

ithos
03-10-2021, 06:52 AM
The little known truth is that most cancer is a result of the choices we make in life with regard to diet, exercise and sleep. This has been established by several studies on more rural populations where cancer and heart disease were close to non existent such as The China Study.

Even after you have cancer there are many things you can do to greatly increase your chances of survival that most doctors will not mention. ACS recommends eating more plants, It's Easy to Add Fruits and Vegetables to Your Diet (https://www.cancer.org/healthy/eat-healthy-get-active/eat-healthy/add-fruits-and-veggies-to-your-diet.html). They do not recommend eating more cheeseburgers.

Hands down the best explanation of how we can fight cancer that I have found was written by a Doctor who has survived Stage 4 cancer with a 2 year projected life expectation. He gives an understandable explanation on how cancer starts and spreads. It is a very well researched, uplifting and informative book.(many links to pubmed). I highly recommend it to anyone affected personally affected by or like me who wants to avoid cancer. He does not encourage avoiding chemo and radiation therapy.

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Beat-Back-Cancer-Naturally-Scientifically/dp/1734057505)

graciegirl
03-10-2021, 07:31 AM
So far so good. At age 79 I take no meds and over my lifetime have been careful to follow a good diet and exercise regularly. I avoid processed foods such as Velveeta like the plague. I also avoid cheap fatty meats. That has probably helped.

Originally Velveeta was made from real cheese. Today, it's mainly whey protein concentrate, milk protein concentrate, milk, fat, and preservatives. By the Food and Drink Administration's standards, that's not real cheese—which is why the FDA forced Kraft to change its label from "cheese spread" to "cheese product."

Besides being high in calories, Velveeta is high in fat and sodium. The nutritional information on the package shows that the product has 6 g of fat per serving, but with 32 servings per box, you'll consume 196 g of fat should you use an entire box of regular Velveeta in a cheese dip or recipe.

Foods that Could Cause Cancer and Preventative Measures - Facty Health (https://facty.com/conditions/cancer/foods-that-could-cause-cancer/?style=quick&utm_source=adwords&adid=355876861637&ad_group_id=70363773525&utm_medium=c-search&utm_term=cancer%20diet&utm_campaign=FH-USA---Search---10-Foods-that-Cause-Cancer---Desktop&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-Kyfw_Ok7wIVh4bACh1YfQuAEAAYASAAEgIGC_D_BwE)

Do you see a Doctor at least once a year and have blood drawn? If so, has your doctor prescribed medications and you decided not to take them?

graciegirl
03-10-2021, 07:32 AM
The little known truth is that most cancer is a result of the choices we make in life with regard to diet, exercise and sleep. This has been established by several studies on more rural populations where cancer and heart disease were close to non existent such as The China Study.

Even after you have cancer there are many things you can do to greatly increase your chances of survival that most doctors will not mention. ACS recommends eating more plants, It's Easy to Add Fruits and Vegetables to Your Diet (https://www.cancer.org/healthy/eat-healthy-get-active/eat-healthy/add-fruits-and-veggies-to-your-diet.html). They do not recommend eating more cheeseburgers.

Hands down the best explanation of how we can fight cancer that I have found was written by a Doctor who has survived Stage 4 cancer with a 2 year projected life expectation. He gives an understandable explanation on how cancer starts and spreads. It is a very well researched, uplifting and informative book.(many links to pubmed). I highly recommend it to anyone affected personally affected by or like me who wants to avoid cancer. He does not encourage avoiding chemo and radiation therapy.

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Beat-Back-Cancer-Naturally-Scientifically/dp/1734057505)

The Genetics of Cancer - National Cancer Institute (https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/genetics)

allsport
03-10-2021, 07:44 AM
There are two ways that diseases happen, one is genetic and the other is environment which includes what we put into our mouths and how active we are. The first part is very evident in people who abuse their bodies and never have any issues, a medical person says to them, you just have great genes. Who does not know the person that can eat pie and ice cream every night and never gain a pound. The other part is the person who has genetic tendencies and then eats and drinks all the wrong things and never gets off the couch. I was with someone in a recovery room who had stents put in after a heart attack and asked the cardiologist what is the best diet and he said vegan for heart disease. He was telling that to a person who was from TX and wanted meat and gravy every day. There is no magic pill but there may be someday soon genetic interventions that at least help part of it. A change of lifestyle and behavior is much more difficult, your behavior is set probably when you are a toddler and does not change unless you have a significant emotional event in your life and even that does not always change behavior.

Eg_cruz
03-10-2021, 07:51 AM
I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.
Read articles from Plant Base doctors on cancer also there is a 9 part series on YouTube “The Truth about Cancer”
Can help you understand....the “Why’s “

Eg_cruz
03-10-2021, 07:53 AM
:shocked: I think that would be a pretty big secret to keep for decades but I'm no doctor...... although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :undecided:
Not really.....if you think the medical field especially big Pharma does not keep secrets.....I have some very nice land I am selling

l2ridehd
03-10-2021, 07:55 AM
I would encourage everyone who is diagnosed with any type of cancer to do all they can to learn as much as possible about your specific disease. Your doctor will only recommend treatment that he has direct knowledge about or that his practice has made investments in. I am a cancer survivor two years and counting. I read over 40 books, got three opinions, and studied it until I knew everything a lay person could know. I chose my own treatment. Even after my local doctor told me not to. He was recommending surgery and when I refused that he then recommended radiation. But the radiation he wanted me to have was IMHO not the correct type. His practice had made an investment in a 4 million $$$ radiation machine that they claimed was the very best solution for my type cancer. I rejected chemo, I rejected surgery and chose radiation. But not the Photon he recommended. I chose Proton radiation. A much better targeted radiation. I had to live out of the area for 8 weeks and it cost me extra money but today I am still cancer free with zero side effects.

Learn all you can, get multiple opinions, and follow the money. As the OP was questioning, your doctor may not have or even know your best option.

graciegirl
03-10-2021, 08:09 AM
I would encourage everyone who is diagnosed with any type of cancer to do all they can to learn as much as possible about your specific disease. Your doctor will only recommend treatment that he has direct knowledge about or that his practice has made investments in. I am a cancer survivor two years and counting. I read over 40 books, got three opinions, and studied it until I knew everything a lay person could know. I chose my own treatment. Even after my local doctor told me not to. He was recommending surgery and when I refused that he then recommended radiation. But the radiation he wanted me to have was IMHO not the correct type. His practice had made an investment in a 4 million $$$ radiation machine that they claimed was the very best solution for my type cancer. I rejected chemo, I rejected surgery and chose radiation. But not the Photon he recommended. I chose Proton radiation. A much better targeted radiation. I had to live out of the area for 8 weeks and it cost me extra money but today I am still cancer free with zero side effects.

Learn all you can, get multiple opinions, and follow the money. As the OP was questioning, your doctor may not have or even know your best option.

I think that when you are diagnosed with cancer, go to the facility with availability to latest research and ties to a teaching Hospital. One of our neighbors was diagnosed with Breast Cancer the same time as daughter Helene was, some years ago. She came to our home saying she had researched it and that she was going to Mexico to receive a new and different treatment not available in the U.S. She wanted for us to take Helene. Helene opted for the mastectomy, and a very strong chemo and radiation combination that had done well in Italy on young women suggested by the team of Oncologists in Cincinnati. (It was in found in eleven nodes) Helene survived and my neighbor did not.

Malsua
03-10-2021, 08:25 AM
I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO

If there was a cure, they would provide it and it would cost you a huge amount of money. Consider Mavyret or one of the other hepatitus C "cures" like Epclusa. Anything the provides a sustained virologic response, i.e. a cure.

When this new class of drugs appeared on the scene, treatment was 100k.

Now, while still extremely expensive, the hep c drugs are probably 1/3rd the original cost.

There are a lot of people working on curing cancer, the problem is that cancer isn't just cancer. Each type of cancer is different and even each treatment can be patient specific. I know someone that is working on a treatment that is built on your own genome. You get a shot in the gut to extract stem cells, they build a treatment based on your own stem cells, shoot it back in you and the cancer goes away. It seems to work in mice, and ultimately this type of approach may bear the best fruit. Every treatment tailored for the individual.

There is also the anthelmintic class of drugs that has anecdotally been shown to work in some people against lung and gastric cancer. There needs to be a lot of study done on this though. If nothing else, since small cell lung cancer has such a poor survival rate, one would think that it'd be easy to get volunteers for a study on these drugs.

To the larger point I'll leave you with this quote:

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

― Upton Sinclair

escudel@bellsouth.net
03-10-2021, 08:33 AM
Warp speed for cancer, AIDS, diabetes...take your pick.

J1ceasar
03-10-2021, 08:39 AM
Wow what interesting responses you will have. I think the best one so far is that it's partially genetics and partially lifestyle we all know of the diseases that only certain ethnicities get. Tay-sachs is one of them. We all know African Americans are more problematic with high blood pressure for some reason. That all being said cancer itself is not just one disease if you really understand cancer you will note that each part of the body that some doctor will tell you is cancerous is it totally different disease from every other part. i. E. Liver versus lung versus skin cancer.speaking of which skin cancer is easily avoidable by covering up wearing long hats if you're outside a lot sunglasses for your eyes and skin creams to avoid tanning I have a relative who used to love this s*** outside by the pool and his head has developed many skin lesions which have been taken off. I don't know if we will really ever have a true preventative measure for cancer, but there are some wonderful drugs and treatments now. I can only recommend if you want to live long and prosper. At the very least get blood tests for cholesterol and diabetes yearly, ladies have your breast checked with mammograms and do self checks while you're in the shower. Eat less meat more fruit and vegetables and walk a little more than you're doing. I myself have always had a weight problem and I'm doing my best to lose the pounds. It is actually very easy to stop eating the meat everyday and have more fish and chicken as well as salads. Good luck to adventurous commentator who started.
This thread with finding some answers, you should really do some research on Google and the internet as well as right to the American Cancer society

Notsocrates
03-10-2021, 08:40 AM
I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.



Cancer is the name of many disorders resulting from mutation of genetic material. There are cures for some cancers, impressive progress for others but many that continue to defy treatment.

oneclickplus
03-10-2021, 08:41 AM
I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.

Lack of a cure is intentional.

This doctor and scientist tells the truth - the WHOLE truth. I've read her books.

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Plague-Scientist%C2%92s-Intrepid-Retroviruses-Syndrome/dp/1510713948)

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Plague-Corruption-Restoring-Promise-Science/dp/1510752242)

NIH, HHS, WHO, "Saint" Anthony Fauci are all corrupt liars. They have an industry to protect and will not allow anything to disrupt it. If you google "Judy Mikovits" you will see nothing except that her science is "fake" and "discredited". But, read her story. The discrediting did not start UNTIL she discovered things that would destroy the medical and pharma industries.

DAVES
03-10-2021, 08:49 AM
Everytime I hear someone say this or I read it, I could bite. There is no one in "Big Pharma" which by the way is the business and industry that researches and manufactures medicines to help us stay well and get well, there is no person who works in the large pharmaceutical companies that do not have someone or someones who have had cancer and someone who has died from cancer, among the people they care about or in their families. The stuff that Oncologist's prescribe for cancer are not on a long, long, list. They are the chemo's that kill cells and cancer at the same time, and just about kill you. ASK ME WHY I KNOW. There are anti-nausea drugs and steroids, but certainly not a huge list of "medicines" that are the center of their business. The highest selling drugs are Statins and they are worth their weight in gold. They have greatly reduced death by heart disease since they were introduced.

In my opinion what you said IS A DUMB CONSPIRACY THEORY......based on the real fact that Pharmacy manufacturers do charge very high prices. BUT they have the gold. And we need the gold. Wish I knew how to fix this so prices are more affordable, but people who work in this industry ARE NOT EVIL. AND they are not keeping the cures for the dozens of diseases all listed under the heading of cancer. Some do have prevention now. Pre-adolescents can be vaccinated against the virus that causes Cervical and ovarian cancer. Hodgkin's Lymphoma has some life saving treatments. Breast Cancer Survivors are increasing. Cancer is a number of different diseases and I believe how to stop them rests in Genetic Research. Your children will live to see them vanquished and we can than thank the people who have invested so much money in research.

Fixing prices is perhaps a spin on communist thought acceptance. The result is always shortage and lack of innovation.

A recent example was the joining of communist East Germany with West Germany.
I was in the photo industry. East Germany was still producing cameras that were designed around WWII. They were made with fine materials, they were very cheap.
It was rare to have one that worked. Quality control was non-existent and they were
dirty inside along with other problems. They also made high silver photographic papers again price was good, quality we inconsistent. When the two countries re-united there were protests in West Germany due fear of the influx of skilled cheap labor.

Our lowered quality of healthcare often mentioned in the Villages is in part due to medicare price fixing. Medicare decided your doctor must see 4 patients an hour.
That is 15 minutes each. You say hello and have used up a large percentage of the time. My doctor only is familiar with what medicare will cover. The latest, study, radical, at least right now, care is not available to you, unless you pay for it. Medicare will not.

DAVES
03-10-2021, 09:02 AM
Wow what interesting responses you will have. I think the best one so far is that it's partially genetics and partially lifestyle we all know of the diseases that only certain ethnicities get. Tay-sachs is one of them. We all know African Americans are more problematic with high blood pressure for some reason. That all being said cancer itself is not just one disease if you really understand cancer you will note that each part of the body that some doctor will tell you is cancerous is it totally different disease from every other part. i. E. Liver versus lung versus skin cancer.speaking of which skin cancer is easily avoidable by covering up wearing long hats if you're outside a lot sunglasses for your eyes and skin creams to avoid tanning I have a relative who used to love this s*** outside by the pool and his head has developed many skin lesions which have been taken off. I don't know if we will really ever have a true preventative measure for cancer, but there are some wonderful drugs and treatments now. I can only recommend if you want to live long and prosper. At the very least get blood tests for cholesterol and diabetes yearly, ladies have your breast checked with mammograms and do self checks while you're in the shower. Eat less meat more fruit and vegetables and walk a little more than you're doing. I myself have always had a weight problem and I'm doing my best to lose the pounds. It is actually very easy to stop eating the meat everyday and have more fish and chicken as well as salads. Good luck to adventurous commentator who started.
This thread with finding some answers, you should really do some research on Google and the internet as well as right to the American Cancer society

Much of the information we have is distorted by politically correct.

It was noticed that survival for blacks with aids, in Africa was far higher than average.
Looking for a cure, a why, it was discovered that there is a simple reason for this surprise. There is international money to cover care for aids. People with other diseases would regularly be reported as having aids so that the medical people could be paid.

We are ex-Long Islanders. Long Island has a high incidence of breast cancer. A rumor took hold. Perhaps closer to the truth, a panic took hold that it was/is due to the above ground power lines or the water. The politically corrected, buried reality. Long Island has a higher than normal percentage of Eastern European women and they are more subject to breast cancer.

DAVES
03-10-2021, 09:06 AM
Lack of a cure is intentional.

This doctor and scientist tells the truth - the WHOLE truth. I've read her books.

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Plague-Scientist%C2%92s-Intrepid-Retroviruses-Syndrome/dp/1510713948)

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Plague-Corruption-Restoring-Promise-Science/dp/1510752242)

NIH, HHS, WHO, "Saint" Anthony Fauci are all corrupt liars. They have an industry to protect and will not allow anything to disrupt it. If you google "Judy Mikovits" you will see nothing except that her science is "fake" and "discredited". But, read her story. The discrediting did not start UNTIL she discovered things that would destroy the medical and pharma industries.

Throughout history that has always been so. Everyone knows the earth is flat and the planets revolve around the earth. If, you think different you will be put on the rack till you
see you are wrong

hvac877
03-10-2021, 09:07 AM
I wish they would find a cure. We have the ability to do so. If we can do what we are doing in outer space especially now on Mars we should be able to solve and resolve anything!!

manaboutown
03-10-2021, 09:13 AM
Do you see a Doctor at least once a year and have blood drawn? If so, has your doctor prescribed medications and you decided not to take them?

Yes indeed. I get yearly comprehensive blood work done followed by physician conducted checkups. I hate the old fashioned prostate check. Ugh! I do take some over the counter nutritional supplements recommended by a "stay healthy" physician, vitamins minerals and such. My personal physician has told me I do not need any blood pressure, cholesterol or other medication and has not prescribed any for me. If he had I would be taking them. I am now paying United healthcare about $90/mo for Rx insurance but have only had to use it for an antibiotic or the like on occasion. Frankly, I hope I never have to use it although if I live long enough I likely will.

Oh, I nearly forgot. I did have a melanoma on my head six years ago. Had the Mohs procedure and followups by an oncologist for five years. I see a dermatologist quarterly. I lived at a swimming pool growing up and lifeguarded while in college. All this was in the desert southwest over 5,000 feet above sea level. The sun was strong and out almost all the time. I got lots of UV and did not use any sun block as this was all before 1963.

PennBF
03-10-2021, 09:18 AM
There are a host of lack of facts regarding cancer and as a result there are many unfounded rumors which lead to misunderstandings. Today a company is currently using the tissue from cancer surgery to determine the patient DNA history and develop a very specific drug to attack a type and form of a specific cancer. This is on going at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville Fl. (Mayo saves tissue from surgery for 10 years in order to farm different methods types and form of cancer.!) There is a drug administered by shots that has been very successful in treating breast cancer. The protocol is two shots at same time once a month. The normal charge for this is about $90K a year which Medicare has agreed to absorb and pay. In 1975 Hogkins was treatable with high doses of radiation and today the survival rate is very high. This just a taste of what is going on in the cancer treatment field. A fundamental problem is that cancer is not a single cell,
tissue, etc and there are many many different types and forms of cancer/tissue. In addition cancer can and is triggered by the enviorement, chemical's , and a person's
living conditions/choices. Before commenting on cancer and treatments and advances it is pointless unless you do your research and study each cancer not as a general statement but specific to a cancer type and form. :ohdear:

Stu from NYC
03-10-2021, 09:20 AM
Very interesting thread

WindyCityzen
03-10-2021, 09:28 AM
I recommend Ken Burn’s superb documentary on cancer. Available on PBS.org.

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-10-2021, 09:44 AM
"Cancer" isn't a singular thing. Therefore it's impossible to expect anyone to find "a" cure for it. Different types of cancers respond differently to different types of treatments. And yes, some can be cured. But then a NEW cancer can form. You got cured of cancer - it was 100% gone from your system. But then another one showed up. That doesn't mean you weren't cured. You were. Maybe you're looking for a cancer preventative. A cancer vaccine. The only cancer vaccine I know of is the HPV vaccine, which can prevent uterine cancer, in people whose uterine cancer was caused by HPV.

Anyone who's had a skin cancer cluster removed can tell you confidently - their cancer no longer exists in their body. Until they grow another one.

Why isn't there a cure for a cold? You get a cold, then three years later, you get another one. What's up with that?

How come there's no cure for general absent-mindedness? You forget to check your schedule, which you rely on to remind you of things you need to do. You then start scheduling it with your alarm clock on your cell phone, and then forget where you put your cell phone. Why's there no cure for that? Why is there no cure for these brain synapse misfires?

It's really a non-question with a non-answer. There's no cure for "cancer" because "cancer" is not singular, nor is it a one and done situation.

CFrance
03-10-2021, 09:47 AM
Read articles from Plant Base doctors on cancer also there is a 9 part series on YouTube “The Truth about Cancer”
Can help you understand....the “Why’s “
Tx. I've been all over the Plant Base way of eating and watched the videos (esp Forks Over Knives) and read books. I eat 99% plant based. I don't do well on beans and potatoes or nuts but do the best I can.

I'll watch The Truth About Cancer. It has appeared in our family, but other than b/c I believe it was caused by smoking (father and brother) and not genetics.

RuthA
03-10-2021, 09:51 AM
Agree that there is no money in curing cancer. Lots of money in treating it.

Newvilla
03-10-2021, 09:59 AM
When you wonder why Big Pharma seldom comes up with cures for chronic, serious diseases, consider H Pylori. That’s a bacteria that causes stomach ulcers. A few years ago, a researcher discovered that ulcers were caused by H Pylori and could be cured with a course of antibiotics. The company he worked for did not want the scientist to publish his research because they were making a lot of money selling palliative treatments. Fortunately, the scientist made the ethical decision to publish. Now most stomach ulcers are cured rather than being treated for years for symptoms. This was in the news, and you can Google this for confirmation. It makes you wonder if or how often research is suppressed to maintain profits.

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-10-2021, 10:09 AM
When you wonder why Big Pharma seldom comes up with cures for chronic, serious diseases, consider H Pylori. That’s a bacteria that causes stomach ulcers. A few years ago, a researcher discovered that ulcers were caused by H Pylori and could be cured with a course of antibiotics. The company he worked for did not want the scientist to publish his research because they were making a lot of money selling palliative treatments. Fortunately, the scientist made the ethical decision to publish. Now most stomach ulcers are cured rather than being treated for years for symptoms. This was in the news, and you can Google this for confirmation. It makes you wonder if or how often research is suppressed to maintain profits.

And, once again misunderstanding, misreading, or simply choosing one agenda over another rears its ugly head.

There is no singular cause for peptic ulcer. H.pylori is ONE cause - and certainly the most common cause. Second most common cause is taking NSAIDs (such as Naproxen and Ibuprophen). Taking antibiotics will NOT cure a peptic ulcer that is caused by taking NSAIDs. Taking antibiotics will kill the H.pylori bacteria, thus allowing the ulcer to heal itself. In most cases. But if the ulcer is advanced, then even killing the bacteria that causes it won't make the ulcer go away on its own, and you'd need other medications to protect the lining of the stomach.

That's because antibiotics aren't killing the ulcer. They're killing the bacteria. Also, once the bacteria is killed off and your ulcer is gone, there's nothing to prevent a recurrence.

graciegirl
03-10-2021, 10:17 AM
Tx. I've been all over the Plant Base way of eating and watched the videos (esp Forks Over Knives) and read books. I eat 99% plant based. I don't do well on beans and potatoes or nuts but do the best I can.

I'll watch The Truth About Cancer. It has appeared in our family, but other than b/c I believe it was caused by smoking (father and brother) and not genetics.

It isn't one or the other. If you have a genetic pre-disposition for certain kinds of cancer you shouldn't be smoking. AND if you DON'T, you shouldn't be smoking. 14 woman in our family..mothers, daughters, aunts and first cousins have had breast cancer but it is not the common genetic link; BRC. All survived but one and she passed forty years ago.

I think that the BEST answers lie at the Moffett Cancer Center, The Anderson Cancer Center, Sloan Kettering, The Mayo Clinic.

Topspinmo
03-10-2021, 10:28 AM
IMO think most cancers has to be caught early to have change for cure or survival. Few they don’t show up till too late, few you don’t have chance in hail.

z4pearlz
03-10-2021, 10:34 AM
I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO
A book with great insights about cancer & cures & big pharma, etc can be found in the book titled WHOLE by T. Colin Campbell. It is also available as an audio book & narrated by the author who is very easy to listen to.

graciegirl
03-10-2021, 11:09 AM
When you wonder why Big Pharma seldom comes up with cures for chronic, serious diseases, consider H Pylori. That’s a bacteria that causes stomach ulcers. A few years ago, a researcher discovered that ulcers were caused by H Pylori and could be cured with a course of antibiotics. The company he worked for did not want the scientist to publish his research because they were making a lot of money selling palliative treatments. Fortunately, the scientist made the ethical decision to publish. Now most stomach ulcers are cured rather than being treated for years for symptoms. This was in the news, and you can Google this for confirmation. It makes you wonder if or how often research is suppressed to maintain profits.

One of our neighbors was the man who published that study and I have never heard him say anything about any efforts to suppress the information.

graciegirl
03-10-2021, 11:13 AM
A book with great insights about cancer & cures & big pharma, etc can be found in the book titled WHOLE by T. Colin Campbell. It is also available as an audio book & narrated by the author who is very easy to listen to.

This book is very recently published and it looks to be on the very subject of the genetics of cancer;

Book Review: ‘The Code Breaker,’ by Walter Isaacson - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/08/books/review/walter-isaacson-the-code-breaker.html#:~:text=The%20term%20%E2%80%9Ccode%20 breaker%E2%80%9D%20also%20describes%20the%20CRISPR ,March,%20just%20before%20%E2%80%9Clockdown%E2%80% 9D%20became%20a%20household%20word).

PugMom
03-10-2021, 11:29 AM
They say the same thing about diabetes. I take 2 different insulin’s as my doctor wanted me off all pills.

As for cancer, I am on a daily pill for 21 of 28 days. Those 21 pills run about $15,000 a month. In addition I have chemo currently once a month but it was once a week for about 16 weeks. Each visit runs about $50,000. Luckily for me I only need to come up with $6000 at the beginning of the year and then everything is free for the rest of the year. Of the $6000, $700 was covered by one drug company and I am waiting on another drug company to see how much of a $4900 bill they will cover.

It is big business for sure. A cure would be great but keeping me alive is working. Was diagnosed at age 49, was forced to retire at 56.

sending you a virtual hug,...

Doc B
03-10-2021, 11:39 AM
Although there is no known cure baking soda is the answer. baking soda is 100% alkaline and cancer cannot survive in an alkaline environment. 3 to 1 with honey or maple syrup will dampen or snuff out cancer. beware cancer never goes away and comes back worse each time. This was discovered by Dr. Warburger many years ago who won the Nobel peace prize for his discovery.

IndianaJones
03-10-2021, 11:42 AM
I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.

Okay, I'll bite, but it's a long explanation and I'll not delve deeply into it. My graduate degree is in Molecular Genetics, and I work with many, many different - and very well-qualified, hard-working researchers at a large university an hour north of TV. These are people who have devoted their lives to finding treatments and better diagnostics for cancer, heart disease, etc. Why haven't they found "THE cure" yet? Mostly because there's not "THE CANCER" - there's literally 1,000's of different cancers (not to mention, most of them, like the COVID-19 virus, mutate frequently). We are just now beginning to scratch the surface of the human genome, and just now scratching the surface of the age-old "genetics vs. environment" argument. We know that only about 15% of cancers (of most types) are "inherited" and thus genetic; however, we are just now understanding the mechanisms that environmental factors have on genes to cause cancer. Diet (a large study in 2015 said to eat less processed meats and red meats, more grains and veggies) is a big deal; so is smoking (remember in 1946 the ad that stated, "More Doctors Prefer Camel Cigarettes"?); so is exposure to sunlight, carcinogens, etc. (Yes, I get the comment here that "I would rather die than stop <insert bad habit here>).
It's been estimated there are 37Trillion cells in a human adult body. Each of these contains a full copy of the adult's genome (DNA), which is composed of 3,234,830,000 base pairs (each cell has two strands of DNA, which makes for a total of 6,496,660.000 bases per cell (Adenine, Thymine, Guanine and Cytosine combinations). Often, if JUST ONE of those bases gets altered, mis-matched, mutated, damaged - it can affect a cell's ability to function (as in STOP multiplying), and thus - potential cancer. Hopefully you can see the "needle in a haystack" situation, and get the complexity of finding it and fixing it. That's just ONE explanation for the "why it's not cured yet". Plenty more, but I'm not going to post a ton of scientific lingo here. It just hurts me when people accuse us of not "healing it because of politics/money/big Pharma". We're working hard on it - but still have a long way to go. Gene therapy is getting bigger, but it's fraught with difficulties. Okay, back to work for me. Thanks for listening.

popbaby2
03-10-2021, 12:13 PM
I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.


Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.

We need a cure for old age then we wouldnt need these drugs.....

Joorn59
03-10-2021, 01:24 PM
The problem is that cancer cells of any type are fast replicators. How do you stop their replication without stopping ALL cell replication which we need to live.
I think we will see great advances using the gene therapy process. If we can change or stop their replication bingo!

retiredguy123
03-10-2021, 01:52 PM
There are lots of new and expensive cancer drugs being advertised on television. The commercials make it sound like a great new way to treat cancer. But, if you pause the screen and read the fine print, you find out that most of these drugs will only extend life by a few months and nothing about the quality of life. If the drugs were so great, wouldn't your doctor prescribe them even if you didn't watch a television commercial?

newgirl
03-10-2021, 02:23 PM
I am looking for opinions from doctors as to why there is no cure for cancer. I have read (have NO links nor dates) the following: that it could be because the research is limited to a certain type of research, limiting think-outside-the-box research; also that pharmacology is a strong lobby against research.

I'm looking for opinions from professionals. Tx for any responses.

Simple, too much money being made keeping people sick.

Stu from NYC
03-10-2021, 02:50 PM
There are lots of new and expensive cancer drugs being advertised on television. The commercials make it sound like a great new way to treat cancer. But, if you pause the screen and read the fine print, you find out that most of these drugs will only extend life by a few months and nothing about the quality of life. If the drugs were so great, wouldn't your doctor prescribe them even if you didn't watch a television commercial?

If you need a commercial to tell you what drugs to take why are you seeing your current physician?

Especially after listening to the 28 different harmful side effect this so called wonder drugs will bring to you

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-10-2021, 02:57 PM
Although there is no known cure baking soda is the answer. baking soda is 100% alkaline and cancer cannot survive in an alkaline environment. 3 to 1 with honey or maple syrup will dampen or snuff out cancer. beware cancer never goes away and comes back worse each time. This was discovered by Dr. Warburger many years ago who won the Nobel peace prize for his discovery.

It's Dr. Warburg, not Warburger, and he didn't discover that ingesting baking soda would cure cancer. He hypothesized that starving cancer cells to prevent them from fermenting in a glucose environment would kill the individual cells.

People - please don't take advice from strangers on the internet with regards to curing ANYTHING. Good grief a simple google search can give you the info about Dr. Otto Warburg. Also, he won his Nobel prize in 1931. To compare: penicillin was discovered in 1928, and didn't become widely accessible for the general public until 1940.

Sort of like saying "oh Dr. Smith won a prize for discovering that you can yank a bad tooth out of the mouth with a common wrench, in 1818" and assuming that this amazing breakthrough should be the method of choice now in 2021.

graciegirl
03-10-2021, 03:00 PM
It's Dr. Warburg, not Warburger, and he didn't discover that ingesting baking soda would cure cancer. He hypothesized that starving cancer cells to prevent them from fermenting in a glucose environment would kill the individual cells.

People - please don't take advice from strangers on the internet with regards to curing ANYTHING. Good grief a simple google search can give you the info about Dr. Otto Warburg. Also, he won his Nobel prize in 1931. To compare: penicillin was discovered in 1928, and didn't become widely accessible for the general public until 1940.

Sort of like saying "oh Dr. Smith won a prize for discovering that you can yank a bad tooth out of the mouth with a common wrench, in 1818" and assuming that this amazing breakthrough should be the method of choice now in 2021.

Well said.


I thought this important too. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

How Often Should You Get Routine Checkups at the Doctor? (https://www.healthline.com/health/how-often-should-you-get-routine-checkups-at-the-doctor)

Stu from NYC
03-10-2021, 03:55 PM
Well said.


I thought this important too. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

How Often Should You Get Routine Checkups at the Doctor? (https://www.healthline.com/health/how-often-should-you-get-routine-checkups-at-the-doctor)

Darn and I was about to buy a 55 gallon drum of baking soda and start a new business.:icon_wink:

ryoungs
03-10-2021, 06:59 PM
Very well said Graciegirl. Also, lets not forget that a lot of the research into cancer cures (among other diseases) is done by doctors in teaching hospitals, and by PhDs working in universities. I do think, though, that "big pharma" would do just fine with not paying their top executives too much money, and with passing those savings along to the consumers.

APovi
03-10-2021, 07:01 PM
[QUOTE=
It's been estimated there are 37Trillion cells in a human adult body. Each of these contains a full copy of the adult's genome (DNA), which is composed of 3,234,830,000 base pairs (each cell has two strands of DNA, which makes for a total of 6,496,660.000 bases per cell (Adenine, Thymine, Guanine and Cytosine combinations).
"it can affect a cell's ability to function (as in STOP multiplying), and thus - potential cancer. g.[/QUOTE]

Q-So how many 'pairs' do we have?
37,000,000,000,000 TIMES 6,496,660,000?
Q-Does every human being have exactly the same number?
*Various studies I've read over the years show that research programs always look for 'abnormalities' which, obviously can't be exactly described.
Wouldn't it be quicker for to search 'commonalities'?

bumpa
03-10-2021, 07:28 PM
I basically agree with you but consider this

I take two hypertension drugs to maintain my blood pressure but no long term fix.

I also take a statin but no long term fix

Take metformin for diabetes no long term fix.

I think it is great that the drug companies have developed excellent maintenance drugs but nothing that cures any of the above.

My wife has her own issues and takes daily drugs for her conditions.

Grateful that they are available but makes me wonder if their is a cure that could be developed.

Diet and exercise are the long term fixes. Agree they are tough to achieve as we get older.

CFrance
03-10-2021, 09:47 PM
Okay, I'll bite, but it's a long explanation and I'll not delve deeply into it. My graduate degree is in Molecular Genetics, and I work with many, many different - and very well-qualified, hard-working researchers at a large university an hour north of TV. These are people who have devoted their lives to finding treatments and better diagnostics for cancer, heart disease, etc. Why haven't they found "THE cure" yet? Mostly because there's not "THE CANCER" - there's literally 1,000's of different cancers (not to mention, most of them, like the COVID-19 virus, mutate frequently). We are just now beginning to scratch the surface of the human genome, and just now scratching the surface of the age-old "genetics vs. environment" argument. We know that only about 15% of cancers (of most types) are "inherited" and thus genetic; however, we are just now understanding the mechanisms that environmental factors have on genes to cause cancer. Diet (a large study in 2015 said to eat less processed meats and red meats, more grains and veggies) is a big deal; so is smoking (remember in 1946 the ad that stated, "More Doctors Prefer Camel Cigarettes"?); so is exposure to sunlight, carcinogens, etc. (Yes, I get the comment here that "I would rather die than stop <insert bad habit here>).
It's been estimated there are 37Trillion cells in a human adult body. Each of these contains a full copy of the adult's genome (DNA), which is composed of 3,234,830,000 base pairs (each cell has two strands of DNA, which makes for a total of 6,496,660.000 bases per cell (Adenine, Thymine, Guanine and Cytosine combinations). Often, if JUST ONE of those bases gets altered, mis-matched, mutated, damaged - it can affect a cell's ability to function (as in STOP multiplying), and thus - potential cancer. Hopefully you can see the "needle in a haystack" situation, and get the complexity of finding it and fixing it. That's just ONE explanation for the "why it's not cured yet". Plenty more, but I'm not going to post a ton of scientific lingo here. It just hurts me when people accuse us of not "healing it because of politics/money/big Pharma". We're working hard on it - but still have a long way to go. Gene therapy is getting bigger, but it's fraught with difficulties. Okay, back to work for me. Thanks for listening.
And thanks for your explanation.

THUNDERCHIEF
03-10-2021, 10:38 PM
:shocked: I think that would be a pretty big secret to keep for decades but I'm no doctor...... although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :undecided:
Maybe you should have stayed two nights

richrjones
03-11-2021, 03:39 AM
I have never posted, but this subject is dear to my heart and i do believe that cures are being hidden from the general public for profit motives. I am a prostate cancer survivor not because of Doctors, Pharma, or any conventional medicines, but because of a Herbal protocol that has kept my PSA unreadable for 10 years after the cancer returned after medical treatment. How was this man rewarded for coming up with this treatment, well he was run out of the USA and had to set up oversees. So, believe what you want, but don't kid your self's, it happens in the medical field and in all industry.

blueash
03-11-2021, 07:54 AM
I have never posted, but this subject is dear to my heart and i do believe that cures are being hidden from the general public for profit motives. I am a prostate cancer survivor not because of Doctors, Pharma, or any conventional medicines, but because of a Herbal protocol that has kept my PSA unreadable for 10 years after the cancer returned after medical treatment. How was this man rewarded for coming up with this treatment, well he was run out of the USA and had to set up oversees. So, believe what you want, but don't kid your self's, it happens in the medical field and in all industry.

I am so glad you are doing well. But please share this wonderful doctor's name and the name and location of his practice so that others facing the same situation will know where to turn when faced with prostate cancer. Obviously our local doctors will not be telling us his name.

PennBF
03-11-2021, 08:51 AM
I have read the many non Professional Medical advice in this stream of posts and it always remember a piece of advise a Dr at the Lahey Clinic in Mass. once said to me. It
was "Don't guess, ask the Dr". There are a lot of accusations and suggestions in this stream but with the exception of one mostly are just amateur opinions with no foundation based on medical experience and education.There was a mention in one note regarding the DNA testing to establish a new base for treatment of cancer's. In that case I am very familiar with the testing comming back with 3 specific drugs to treat that specific type and form. This is extraordinary and the result of Medical research marrying up with Genealogy and creating new avenues of treatments. Although it is being applied at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville the actual work is being done by a separate Lab! When I hear the question why there isn't a cure I am reminded of this kind of complexity in finding that cure and the proving it works. :ho:

dms4rn
03-11-2021, 09:03 AM
I worked at a major cancer treatment center as an RN for years. What we saw is that one size does not fit all. Cancer cells are smart. When the chemo is working, the cancer cells learn to mutate differently in order to keep regenerating. It can take years and the cancer may not pop back up in the same site. On the other side of the coin a round of chemo can cost well over $100K. So it is a big money maker. Also if a patient dies with 30 days of receiving chemo the doctor has to explain why it was given when the patient was so advanced.

dms4rn
03-11-2021, 09:06 AM
Also, diet and exercise is the best prevention

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-11-2021, 09:11 AM
I'm not a doctor but I have had experience with cancer, my own and that of loved ones, and I have done a bit of research.

When we say cancer, we are talking a many different but related diseases. If I recall correctly, there are over 1,100 different cancers and many are curable.

I'm not much on conspiracy theories. I don't think that "big pharma", whoever you think that actually is, is preventing the cure for any disease. If that were the case, then we wouldn't have cures for the hundreds of types that are curable.

dtennent
03-11-2021, 09:41 AM
To add just a few points to this discussion -

1) While the study of genetics goes back to Mendel and his peas, the science of understanding and altering genes has grown exponentially over the last 40 years. One result of this, two m-RNA vaccines were developed in record time. The work going into cancer research is slowly producing results.

2) As pointed out by the one responder who actually works in the field, this is an incredibly complex problem. For those who use the 'going to space' comparison, curing cancer is like finding a planet in the universe with intelligent life, sending a space craft out to that planet, and have it come back in our lifetime or even our grandchildren's lifetime.

3) Finally, while there are examples of companies not pursuing possible products because it might hurt the current product line profits, those efforts come back to hurt the company in the long term. For example, Kodak invented a digital camera but did not go forward because of their huge film business. Today digital photography is 90+ percent of the business. Big Pharma is not one company, but rather several companies competing. In addition, there are lots of start ups in this area. One company might stop a particular research effort from going forward but the profits in the industry will drive someone else to push forward.

As a scientist who did not work in this field, I have read the progress over the years with great interest. That progress has happened because of a collaboration between the government, universities, and private industry. Despite that effort, we lose family and friends to cancer every year. However, every year there are more success stories than in the previous year.

graciegirl
03-11-2021, 10:17 AM
To add just a few points to this discussion -

1) While the study of genetics goes back to Mendel and his peas, the science of understanding and altering genes has grown exponentially over the last 40 years. One result of this, two m-RNA vaccines were developed in record time. The work going into cancer research is slowly producing results.

2) As pointed out by the one responder who actually works in the field, this is an incredibly complex problem. For those who use the 'going to space' comparison, curing cancer is like finding a planet in the universe with intelligent life, sending a space craft out to that planet, and have it come back in our lifetime or even our grandchildren's lifetime.

3) Finally, while there are examples of companies not pursuing possible products because it might hurt the current product line profits, those efforts come back to hurt the company in the long term. For example, Kodak invented a digital camera but did not go forward because of their huge film business. Today digital photography is 90+ percent of the business. Big Pharma is not one company, but rather several companies competing. In addition, there are lots of start ups in this area. One company might stop a particular research effort from going forward but the profits in the industry will drive someone else to push forward.

As a scientist who did not work in this field, I have read the progress over the years with great interest. That progress has happened because of a collaboration between the government, universities, and private industry. Despite that effort, we lose family and friends to cancer every year. However, every year there are more success stories than in the previous year.

I stand in awe at not only your knowledge but your ability to share it with others. Thank you sir or madam.

OrangeBlossomBaby
03-11-2021, 12:44 PM
I have never posted, but this subject is dear to my heart and i do believe that cures are being hidden from the general public for profit motives. I am a prostate cancer survivor not because of Doctors, Pharma, or any conventional medicines, but because of a Herbal protocol that has kept my PSA unreadable for 10 years after the cancer returned after medical treatment. How was this man rewarded for coming up with this treatment, well he was run out of the USA and had to set up oversees. So, believe what you want, but don't kid your self's, it happens in the medical field and in all industry.

My dad is a prostate cancer survivor because of science, doctors, and getting zapped in the nads every 15 days for three months with a laser beam.

But you do you, boo.

ithos
03-11-2021, 10:01 PM
The Genetics of Cancer - National Cancer Institute (https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/genetics)

“Despite these rare exceptions, it is becoming increasingly clear that the risks for getting most diseases arise from your metabolism, your environment, your lifestyle, or your exposure to various kinds of nutrients, chemicals, bacteria, or viruses,” explained Wishart.

Your DNA is not your destiny, or a good predictor of your health - Neuroscience News (https://neurosciencenews.com/genetics-health-15342/)

What Is Gene Expression?
While you can’t change your genes (probably), what you can do is to change gene expression; the study of which is known as ‘epigenetics’.

How Your Diet and Lifestyle Affects Your Genes | HealthGuidance.org (https://www.healthguidance.org/entry/17717/1/how-your-diet-and-lifestyle-affects-your-genes.html)

Gene-Environment Interactions: Why Heredity Is Not Destiny

Genes Are Not Destiny | Obesity Prevention Source | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health (https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesity-causes/genes-and-obesity/)

richrjones
03-12-2021, 05:08 AM
I have never posted, but this subject is dear to my heart and i do believe that cures are being hidden from the general public for profit motives. I am a prostate cancer survivor not because of Doctors, Pharma, or any conventional medicines, but because of a Herbal protocol that has kept my PSA unreadable for 10 years after the cancer returned after medical treatment. How was this man rewarded for coming up with this treatment, well he was run out of the USA and had to set up oversees. So, believe what you want, but don't kid your self's, it happens in the medical field and in all industry.
Here is the source for Prostate cancer as requested: nutrition2000 Many testimonies including several Doctors. Hope this might help someone.

graciegirl
03-12-2021, 05:36 AM
“Despite these rare exceptions, it is becoming increasingly clear that the risks for getting most diseases arise from your metabolism, your environment, your lifestyle, or your exposure to various kinds of nutrients, chemicals, bacteria, or viruses,” explained Wishart.

Your DNA is not your destiny, or a good predictor of your health - Neuroscience News (https://neurosciencenews.com/genetics-health-15342/)

What Is Gene Expression?
While you can’t change your genes (probably), what you can do is to change gene expression; the study of which is known as ‘epigenetics’.

How Your Diet and Lifestyle Affects Your Genes | HealthGuidance.org (https://www.healthguidance.org/entry/17717/1/how-your-diet-and-lifestyle-affects-your-genes.html)

Gene-Environment Interactions: Why Heredity Is Not Destiny

Genes Are Not Destiny | Obesity Prevention Source | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health (https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesity-causes/genes-and-obesity/)

I agree with your post and the links. My post was not to say that genetics is "your destiny" but there is strong evidence some forms of cancer do have genetic links. I think that genetics will prove a strong contender in the general knowledge that will be crucial in stopping many forms of cancer from killing us. I just do not support alternative medicine at all in the fight against cancer or in fact in any way. Eating healthily and exercising are always the foundation of good health.

Two Bills
03-12-2021, 06:53 AM
I believe there has been a cure for decades, but there’s no money in a cure. Big pharma makes billions off cancer patients....IMO

This theory is in the same class as the regular claim against the Petroleum Industry, that they buy off/bump off the inventors of the 10 cent tablet you mix with water, that will work the same as gas to fire up your car.
Pharma have a cure for the common cold, but are sitting on it so the can sell more cough syrup.
Pharma spend billions on research, so they can sit on the cure for just one of the types of cancer?
Find a one pill cure for any one of the hundreds of cancers, and the rewards will be off the money scale.
Get real!