Fire Protection Assessment (tripling?)

[EdFNJ]

Does that support the fire department and other emergency services like EMT's or is it for "fire protection" like from forest fires (sorta kidding on that).

Just got a letter in the mail from SC Tax folks saying they're proposing an almost tripling of that assessment on this property from my current $125 to $360 for 2021/22. Public hearing on 4/13 at Everglades RC. Does it vary by property valuation? Actually it says: "only the maximum fire protection assessment" whatever that means will be affected.

[Stu from NYC]

We also got it today and wondering what it actually will mean.

[billethkid]

Trial balloon testing the metal of the silent majority.

A lot more needs to be known and understood why such a huge increase (after TV and numbers of residents have quadrupled).

The match has been thrown toward the gasoline!

[Kenswing]

Is this how the new puppets plan to finance their promised 25% rollback on property taxes? :1rotfl:

[Dond1959]

I got the same letter today. It does not automatically increase the assessment. However, it allows the county commissioners to increase the assessment up to the maximum without any prior notice. The commissioners are also looking at new impact fees in addition the road impact fees. The 3 new commissioners seem to be tied to the old tax and spend model that failed miserably where they came from.

[twoplanekid]

I also received the notice of a Sumter County fire protection assessment increasing from $125 to $360 per year. Thank goodness the Federal government will soon be giving me free monies in an amount to cover this local increase for the rest of my life. :icon_wink:

[SafetyJeff]

I belive we are well on our way for Sumter to be the highest taxed county in the state...

[dewilson58]

Increasing vs. Potential Future Cap.



"The sky is falling, The sky is falling".

[RICH1]

Does that support the fire department and other emergency services like EMT's or is it for "fire protection" like from forest fires (sorta kidding on that).

Just got a letter in the mail from SC Tax folks saying they're proposing an almost tripling of that assessment on this property from my current $125 to $360 for 2021/22. Public hearing on 4/13 at Everglades RC. Does it vary by property valuation? Actually it says: "only the maximum fire protection assessment" whatever that means will be affected.
Is it because the phone at the Fire Department rings everytime someone in The Villages calls because they overcooked a hot dog?

[John41]

Does that support the fire department and other emergency services like EMT's or is it for "fire protection" like from forest fires (sorta kidding on that).

Just got a letter in the mail from SC Tax folks saying they're proposing an almost tripling of that assessment on this property from my current $125 to $360 for 2021/22. Public hearing on 4/13 at Everglades RC. Does it vary by property valuation? Actually it says: "only the maximum fire protection assessment" whatever that means will be affected.

This assessment increase comes from the PWAC developer appointed members not the current Sumter county commissioners.

[Carla B]

I wonder if the letter's writer meant that fees will increase incrementally until they reach the cap of $360 in a future year. In other words, not all at once. If they meant incrementally, they should have said so. If they meant "all at once," that is definitely meant to excite the voters, in a bad way.

[CWGUY]

I also received the notice of a Sumter County fire protection assessment increasing from $125 to $360 per year. Thank goodness the Federal government will soon be giving me free monies in an amount to cover this local increase for the rest of my life. :icon_wink:

:ohdear: Sorry..... that's NOT what it says. :)

[Bill14564]

The letter could have been written better.

It appears The County Commission has the right to adjust the fire protection assessment up to a maximum. The maximum allowed right now is $125.

The proposal is to raise the maximum allowed from $125 to $360.

This does not mean my assessment will increase, it only means that it can be increased without another public hearing.

Last year my assessment was $124 (or $1 under the maximum). On the one hand I could imagine my assessment would not increase since I'm in an established community that is not growing and therefore does not require additional funds to provide the same fire protection service. On the other hand, I've heard that song before in the State I lived in previously and watched as my assessment grew to reach the new maximum.

If approved, the change in the maximum does not mean my assessment will increase but it means it can increase and my experience has been that taxes and fees generally grow to fill all available space, at least for homeowners.

[twoplanekid]

:ohdear: Sorry..... that's NOT what it says. :)

You caught me as I should have been more specific to say " increasing the maximum annual fire protection assessment to be imposed". And they are just thinking about an increase.:icon_wink:

[Bogie Shooter]

Didn't the letter also mention a public hearing? Probably better answers there than the WAG opinions on here......

[Stu from NYC]

The letter could have been written better.

It appears The County Commission has the right to adjust the fire protection assessment up to a maximum. The maximum allowed right now is $125.

The proposal is to raise the maximum allowed from $125 to $360.

This does not mean my assessment will increase, it only means that it can be increased without another public hearing.

Last year my assessment was $124 (or $1 under the maximum). On the one hand I could imagine my assessment would not increase since I'm in an established community that is not growing and therefore does not require additional funds to provide the same fire protection service. On the other hand, I've heard that song before in the State I lived in previously and watched as my assessment grew to reach the new maximum.

If approved, the change in the maximum does not mean my assessment will increase but it means it can increase and my experience has been that taxes and fees generally grow to fill all available space, at least for homeowners.

Governments do like to stick their hands in your pockets

[Garywt]

So are you saying you get a bill for fire protection?

[champion6]

So are you saying you get a bill for fire protection?We are assessed a fee in the Non Ad Velorum section of our property tax bill.

2020 Tax Bill
Sumter - Fire Assessment, Per Parcel $124.00
Lake - Fruitland Park Villages, Res Fire, Per Parcel $186.00
Lake - Lady Lake Fire, Residential, Per Parcel $124.00
Marion - Villages Fire, Per Parcel $199.91

[CWGUY]

So are you saying you get a bill for fire protection?

What am I missing here? Are you saying you don't? :confused:

[Vernon Hud]

The fire departments need more money to up grade their equipment to be able to fight fires that may occur in the new apartments, and other high rise buildings the developer has built.

[crash]

Does that support the fire department and other emergency services like EMT's or is it for "fire protection" like from forest fires (sorta kidding on that).

Just got a letter in the mail from SC Tax folks saying they're proposing an almost tripling of that assessment on this property from my current $125 to $360 for 2021/22. Public hearing on 4/13 at Everglades RC. Does it vary by property valuation? Actually it says: "only the maximum fire protection assessment" whatever that means will be affected.
reread the letter it is saying they will be increasing the cap. The current cap has been in place since 2007 and they are bumping up to it. So they need to increase the cap to cover inflation going forward. Maybe 14 years down the road they will need to increase it again.

[Garywt]

What am I missing here? Are you saying you don't? :confused:

People were making it sound like they were getting a bill for it. I don’t but if it is part of my tax bill then that is fine. I never read my tax bill. My bank pays it once a year and that is that. I see what the total bill is but no need to dig in and see what is included.

[Garywt]

We are assessed a fee in the Non Ad Velorum section of our property tax bill.

2020 Tax Bill
Sumter - Fire Assessment, Per Parcel $124.00
Lake - Fruitland Park Villages, Res Fire, Per Parcel $186.00
Lake - Lady Lake Fire, Residential, Per Parcel $124.00
Marion - Villages Fire, Per Parcel $199.91

So $200 of a $5000 bill does not concern me, can’t be worried if that goes up some.

[Bogie Shooter]

People were making it sound like they were getting a bill for it. I don’t but if it is part of my tax bill then that is fine. I never read my tax bill. My bank pays it once a year and that is that. I see what the total bill is but no need to dig in and see what is included.

I have some tickets to a bridge in New York City, they are $2,000,000/each there are no details.🤔

[CWGUY]

Does that support the fire department and other emergency services like EMT's or is it for "fire protection" like from forest fires (sorta kidding on that).

Just got a letter in the mail from SC Tax folks saying they're proposing an almost tripling of that assessment on this property from my current $125 to $360 for 2021/22. Public hearing on 4/13 at Everglades RC. Does it vary by property valuation? Actually it says: "only the maximum fire protection assessment" whatever that means will be affected.

SC in this case means SUMTER COUNTY

So $200 of a $5000 bill does not concern me, can’t be worried if that goes up some.

Because you mention $200.00 I will assume you pay the $199.91 and live in Marion County. Now I'm confused why you are even in this discussion.......:1rotfl: but not as confused as you. :wave: Have a good day. (You really don't read your tax bill? And you try to discuss things on it? ) :shocked:

[CWGUY]

I have some tickets to a bridge in New York City, they are $2,000,000/each there are no details.🤔

:coolsmiley: Want to sell those tickets...... put them on his tax bill. He'll pay it! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Garywt]

I have some tickets to a bridge in New York City, they are $2,000,000/each there are no details.🤔

What does NYC have to do with anything? I don’t need a bridge but I do need to pay my taxes. Not sure what the 2 things have to do with each other. If I pay a $5000 tax bill when you expect a $5000 tax bill, why look into it, it is what it is. I actually think it went down $200 this year so even better. If you stress out over these little things like $100-200 then you might be in the wrong place.

[Stu from NYC]

:coolsmiley: Want to sell those tickets...... put them on his tax bill. He'll pay it! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Not taking sides here but very funny

[Stu from NYC]

I have some tickets to a bridge in New York City, they are $2,000,000/each there are no details.🤔

We have a big anniversary coming up and would love to buy my wife a new bridge as she is a collector.

Can you supply details.

[Bogie Shooter]

We have a big anniversary coming up and would love to buy my wife a new bridge as she is a collector.

Can you supply details.

Look in your tax bill.:clap2:

[Bogie Shooter]

What does NYC have to do with anything? I don’t need a bridge but I do need to pay my taxes. Not sure what the 2 things have to do with each other. If I pay a $5000 tax bill when you expect a $5000 tax bill, why look into it, it is what it is. I actually think it went down $200 this year so even better. If you stress out over these little things like $100-200 then you might be in the wrong place.

Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you.

No, I am in the right place.......(whatever that means I didn't say anything about moving)

[Stu from NYC]

Look in your tax bill.:clap2:

Wow who would have thought to look there. So now I did and no description about the bridge. Need help would hate to buy a bridge my wife would not appreciate.

[Silliness]

If the fire district finances are open to public review, then that should give an indication of where the fees are headed. I thought that I read somewhere that the increase was to due "other funding" no longer being available.

[teamC]

The fire departments need more money to up grade their equipment to be able to fight fires that may occur in the new apartments, and other high rise buildings the developer has built.

Can anyone confirm?
It seems the 25% increase in RE taxes was for building the new firehouses, and this is for new equipment?
Isn't the PWAC in the process of splitting off into two? If so we are voting on this before the split?

[vintageogauge]

If you need them in a true emergency I would say whatever the annual cost is it would be well worth it. Plus, you get free labor to install your smoke detector batteries.