Why isn't THIS Headline news across the USA?

[DeanFL]

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Whenever there is a 'mass shooting' it's huge news for a few days, as the nut killing 10 in the Boulder, CO store over a week ago and the Atlanta nut killing 8 around Massage stores. Yes horrible and deserves wide coverage.

But, DAYS after (last week) in a PUBLIX supermarket in Atlanta THIS ocurred>

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.
Police arrested a man with 6 guns

(CNN)An Instacart shopper who entered an Atlanta supermarket bathroom this week told police he saw an AR-15 style rifle and heard what he believed was the sound of someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.

The witness rushed out of the bathroom and notified staff at the Publix Supermarket. When police arrived soon after, they arrested a suspect as he was exiting the bathroom -- with six loaded guns in his possession.
The suspect, identified as 22-year-old Rico Marley, now faces a slew of charges related to the incident, which came just days after 10 people were killed in a mass shooting at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado.

According to the police incident report, Russell was entering the men's restroom when he "heard clicking sounds from the bathroom stall."
"It sounded to him like someone was loading firearms," an Atlanta officer wrote. "He also told me that he saw an AR-15 style rifle leaned against the wall."

After arresting Marley, police recovered six firearms: a DPMS AR-15-style rifle, a 12-gauge Maverick Arms Modell 88 shotgun, three semi-automatic 9 mm pistols and a .38-caliber revolver. All of the weapons were loaded and the rifle, shotgun and three 9 mm pistols all had a round in the chamber, according to the police report.
The suspect, who was wearing body armor when he was arrested, had the four handguns in his clothing while the rifle and shotgun were being carried inside a bag, the report says.

Att is a police photo of his loaded weapons. Imagine if that guy didn't hear the noise in the bathroom and alert police? yikes.
My reasoning for posting this is:

Why wasn't this HUGE nationwide news?
I happened upon this on a Yahoo news feed a couple days ago, googled and found this CNN article, and some others.
...only supposition I could arrive at was the 'suspect', that he didn't fit the 'Media's' model of the "typical" mass shooter to exploit.

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall. Police arrested a man with 6 guns - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/us/atlanta-guns-supermarket-witness/index.html)

[Stu from NYC]

The guy who stopped this is a hero

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

If this potential shooter knew that 75% of the people in that supermarket, including managers and employees, were armed he probably wouldn't have thought about what he was about to do.

The same for the Boulder shooter.

There are of course, a few of these idiots that want to die and would still try a mass shooting knowing that they would be killed, but if more people were armed, the damage would be minimized.

[Decadeofdave]

People, be aware of your surroundings like this citizen that heard the loading of the guns, take notice of what is around you. These potential perps are anywhere/everywhere, even the most affuential areas of the country.

[blueash]

This story has been widely reported.
Man arrested after taking 6 guns, body armor into Atlanta Publix (https://www.ajc.com/news/man-took-6-guns-body-armor-into-publix-at-atlantic-station-cops-say/44Y6FBBM4FDVDJQABYQTBOADBU/)

Atlanta man arrested with 6 guns, body armor at Publix grocery store - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/atlanta-man-arrested-guns-body-armor-publix-grocery/story?id=76667213)

Man arrested at Atlanta grocery with six guns, body armor, police say (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-arrested-atlanta-grocery-5-guns-body-armor-police-say-n1262016)

Heavily Armed Man Arrested in Atlanta Grocery Store - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/24/us/atlanta-publix-arrest.html)

Man walked into Atlanta grocery store with five guns, body armor, police say | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/atlanta-grocery-store-with-five-guns-body-armor-police-say)

The most important detail you omitted is that the police are having a problem finding any gun law that was broken as Georgia has no regulation on open carry of weapons or wearing of body armor. That is the biggest part of the story IMO.

He has been charged with "criminal attempt to commit a felony and six counts of possession of a firearm or knife during commission of or attempt to commit certain felonies." But there has been no publication that I have found of what felony they are alleging he was attempting to commit.

Here is what he had on him at the time of his arrest at Publix which I know is posted above, but not specifically labelled as what was on the man.

[MrFlorida]

As I always tell my wife, beware of your surroundings, the guy behind you in line at the supermarket may be a crazy person.

[John_W]

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[LiverpoolWalrus]

If this potential shooter knew that 75% of the people in that supermarket, including managers and employees, were armed he probably wouldn't have thought about what he was about to do.

The same for the Boulder shooter.

There are of course, a few of these idiots that want to die and would still try a mass shooting knowing that they would be killed, but if more people were armed, the damage would be minimized.

To be honest, I’m surprised to hear this from a John Lennon/Beatles fan.

///o-o\\\

[Boomer]

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[DeanFL]

HLN was on a couple of mornings ago and I remember hearing that story. I also wondered why they didn't go into more detail or repeat the story. I lived in Atlanta for a year in 1988, and before that Savannah for a total of ten years over two different times. I can say, there is a lot of crazy people in Georgia, even more than Florida has, if you can believe that.

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EXACTLY my point. And I really do not want to bring the "R" matter into this, but when looking a bit deeply into this, can't help but see that.

This guy DOES NOT FIT the mass shooting guy the Media wants to promote. I may be cycnical, but IF he did - it would receive much more Press. Also per the CNN article, they said paramedics did a Mental evaluation. I MUST wonder, will the results of this and more psych tests be revealed at some time. Some mass shooters no doubt have a bias towards some, or what to make a name, but I would believe (and hope) that the majority are mentally ill.
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[LiverpoolWalrus]

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Some mass shooters no doubt have a bias towards some, or what to make a name, but I would believe (and hope) that the majority are mentally ill.
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Bingo! And that’s exactly where we should be focusing our attention, imo, as much or more than gun “control.”

But as long as mental health treatment remains stigmatized and a sign of supposed weakness, it’s not going to happen.

I’d like to see a full blown Marshall Plan and a flood of funding like MADD accomplished in the ‘80s, showing there’s no shame in seeking help, and making that help free and easily accessible.

[Bay Kid]

They are coming for our guns even though none of my guns have never killed anything.

[Stu from NYC]

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EXACTLY my point. And I really do not want to bring the "R" matter into this, but when looking a bit deeply into this, can't help but see that.

This guy DOES NOT FIT the mass shooting guy the Media wants to promote. I may be cycnical, but IF he did - it would receive much more Press. Also per the CNN article, they said paramedics did a Mental evaluation. I MUST wonder, will the results of this and more psych tests be revealed at some time. Some mass shooters no doubt have a bias towards some, or what to make a name, but I would believe (and hope) that the majority are mentally ill.
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Media only wants to promote crazy white guy who is not a muslim.

If they cannot pigeonhole them into that category will move on to the next one

[billethkid]

The seemingly stifling of open commentary, by far too many special interest groups, would not support "see something say something".

[Justus]

This story has been widely reported.
Man arrested after taking 6 guns, body armor into Atlanta Publix (https://www.ajc.com/news/man-took-6-guns-body-armor-into-publix-at-atlantic-station-cops-say/44Y6FBBM4FDVDJQABYQTBOADBU/)

Atlanta man arrested with 6 guns, body armor at Publix grocery store - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/atlanta-man-arrested-guns-body-armor-publix-grocery/story?id=76667213)

Man arrested at Atlanta grocery with six guns, body armor, police say (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-arrested-atlanta-grocery-5-guns-body-armor-police-say-n1262016)

Heavily Armed Man Arrested in Atlanta Grocery Store - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/24/us/atlanta-publix-arrest.html)

Man walked into Atlanta grocery store with five guns, body armor, police say | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/atlanta-grocery-store-with-five-guns-body-armor-police-say)

The most important detail you omitted is that the police are having a problem finding any gun law that was broken as Georgia has no regulation on open carry of weapons or wearing of body armor. That is the biggest part of the story IMO.

He has been charged with "criminal attempt to commit a felony and six counts of possession of a firearm or knife during commission of or attempt to commit certain felonies." But there has been no publication that I have found of what felony they are alleging he was attempting to commit.

Here is what he had on him at the time of his arrest at Publix which I know is posted above, but not specifically labelled as what was on the man.

If gun control laws were the answer, Detroit would be the safest place in the country.

[canyonblue]

If gun control laws were the answer, Detroit would be the safest place in the country.

Detroit only regulates guns, it's Chicago that bans them. If anything you would think that Capone taught them that banning something won't stop it.

[Number 10 GI]

With the vitriolic discourse in this country is it no wonder we have mentally unstable people going off and committing these types of acts? When you have political leaders encouraging physical confrontation with those they politically/morally/ideologically disagree with, what do you expect will happen? Then there is the media that thrives on stirring the pot getting people worked up and angry hoping to create an act of violence so they can have a "breaking news" moment. Guns, bludgeons, knives, axes and other objects are not evil talismen that whisper, kill someone, to the individual holding them. They are just tools. Eliminating the tools won't change anything as long as the hate mongers keep preaching their evil, they are the problem that needs to be dealt with.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

They are coming for our guns even though none of my guns have never killed anything.

Yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

[DeanFL]

Yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

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or "Just like" they came for our apples and made oranges.
(apples & oranges commentary above)...
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[LiverpoolWalrus]

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or "Just like" they came for our apples and made oranges.
(apples & oranges commentary above)...
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I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

[Bucco]

I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

Your logic is clear.....your point is a great one.

Remember, these people don't think.....they simply repeat what they are told to think.

They rely on being the "victim" on every issue. No discussion, no nothing except that they believe everyone is out to get them.

[DeanFL]

I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

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I 'hear ya'. ... cars safer with seat belts. guns safer with trigger locks. apples<>apples.

STILL both can be killers if not used properly.

Cars will be deadly if used by drunk or drugged (or whatever) drivers.
Guns will be deadly if used by criminal/'bad folks' (or whatever) shooters.

...all I can say is...IF I am in a situation where, in a store their is a nutty 'shooter', I sure hope there is a trained, armed indivudual in the store too - take out the bad guy before damage is done and waiting for LEOs.
I can't be that guy...no guns, my choice. Just glad it IS a choice.
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[LiverpoolWalrus]

Your logic is clear.....your point is a great one.

Remember, these people don't think.....they simply repeat what they are told to think.

They rely on being the "victim" on every issue. No discussion, no nothing except that they believe everyone is out to get them.

Well said, Bucco. I think cable news is partly responsible for this. I've heard educated commentators (I'm sure everyone has) who have said things like "they're coming for our guns," when they know darn well that's not true. It's called propaganda, or pandering to the base, because that's what the base wants to hear. Then when they hear it enough (or maybe even only once), then they believe it.

It's the same with them parroting "socialism" this and "socialism" that. It's because the cable news commentators are saying it's socialism or a person is a socialist, not because it IS socialism or the person is a socialist.

Just the other day I heard a respected commentator say "if we still have to wear masks after getting vaccinated, then why bother to get vaccinated"? My jaw dropped. He's smarter than that. He knew the answer. He was just playing the role of his audience members. He was telling them what they wanted to hear, even though he knew better.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

1. It WAS headline news nationwide.
2. The reason it wasn't made as big a deal as shootings was:
2a) he never shot the gun or even aimed it at anyone.
2b) the only law he actually broke was carrying the gun in public WHILE IT WAS LOADED. You don't need a permit of any kind to carry a rifle in Georgia. He had the right to bring his weapon into Publix, he had the right to carry ammo on his person. He even had the right to load it in the bathroom. What he didn't have the right to do, was leave the bathroom with the loaded rifle in his possession. That's it. Barely a slap on the wrist.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

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I 'hear ya'. ... cars safer with seat belts. guns safer with trigger locks. apples<>apples.

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But just as importantly:

Cars will be safer and nobody's taking a car you own = Guns will be safer and nobody's taking a gun you own

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Well said, Bucco. I think cable news is partly responsible for this. I've heard educated commentators (I'm sure everyone has) who have said things like "they're coming for our guns," when they know darn well that's not true. It's called propaganda, or pandering to the base, because that's what the base wants to hear. Then when they hear it enough (or maybe even only once), then they believe it.

It's the same with them parroting "socialism" this and "socialism" that. It's because the cable news commentators are saying it's socialism or a person is a socialist, not because it IS socialism or the person is a socialist.

Just the other day I heard a respected commentator say "if we still have to wear masks after getting vaccinated, then why bother to get vaccinated"? My jaw dropped. He's smarter than that. He knew the answer. He was just playing the role of his audience members. He was telling them what they wanted to hear, even though he knew better.

He wasn't telling them what they want to hear. He was dictating to them what they are required to believe. It's called propaganda and it's very effective (obviously).

[5:00somewhere]

It's been proven time and time again, gun control laws do not work. Killing someone is against the law in every state in the U.S. If a criminal is going to break that law, why would he obey ANY gun law?

Chicago has the toughest gun laws in our country and they have the highest homicide rate too. It's not guns, it's criminals.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.

I know that nothing has ever been written that would change the mind of anyone on either side of this issue. But I keep hoping that if both sides really tried to find an intelligent solution and stop politicizing the issue, progress can be made. Let's try to reestablish the two parent family to begin. Let's increase funding for mental health issues. Let's start thinking outside the box on this.

[tvbound]

I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

Yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

It's proved to be great for business for the gun and ammo manufacturers though, to keep scaring the easily gullible people by constantly saying it.

[Bucco]

Well said, Bucco. I think cable news is partly responsible for this. I've heard educated commentators (I'm sure everyone has) who have said things like "they're coming for our guns," when they know darn well that's not true. It's called propaganda, or pandering to the base, because that's what the base wants to hear. Then when they hear it enough (or maybe even only once), then they believe it.

It's the same with them parroting "socialism" this and "socialism" that. It's because the cable news commentators are saying it's socialism or a person is a socialist, not because it IS socialism or the person is a socialist.

Just the other day I heard a respected commentator say "if we still have to wear masks after getting vaccinated, then why bother to get vaccinated"? My jaw dropped. He's smarter than that. He knew the answer. He was just playing the role of his audience members. He was telling them what they wanted to hear, even though he knew better.

You are spot on.

The age of disinformation is blooming.....the age of having zero accountability is here.....the buzz words are sickening in most cases, and are consistent.

Most importantly, the age of simply mouthing what we are told to say, and ceasing to use our brains to determine how we feel by understanding the issue. Generalities used to slander has replaced using facts to show a point of view. When confronted, make yourself the victim.

Those crying for headlines only want the headline they want, not truth or even Justice.

This was news but instead of applauding the person who alerted authority, or applauding those officials who handled this so professionally, some are simply looking for new thread to go in their direction.

This story should have generated a discussion of folks being able to assemble an arsenal like that in their home. Not sure about anyone else, but that was my first thought.

[Bucco]

He wasn't telling them what they want to hear. He was dictating to them what they are required to believe. It's called propaganda and it's very effective (obviously).

I hope you are wrong.

I always maintained that those who simply blindly mouth others words are simpletons, but cannot think of a word strong enough to describe anyone who feels obliged to believe words from whatever they consider "on high"

But, then again, a mental review of the news might validate strongly what you say

[LiverpoolWalrus]

the age of simply mouthing what we are told to say, and ceasing to use our brains to determine how we feel by understanding the issue.

I think I know whose fault this is:

SATAN

He’s brainwashing us all.

[DeanFL]

1. It WAS headline news nationwide.
2. The reason it wasn't made as big a deal as shootings was:
2a) he never shot the gun or even aimed it at anyone.
2b) the only law he actually broke was carrying the gun in public WHILE IT WAS LOADED. You don't need a permit of any kind to carry a rifle in Georgia. He had the right to bring his weapon into Publix, he had the right to carry ammo on his person. He even had the right to load it in the bathroom. What he didn't have the right to do, was leave the bathroom with the loaded rifle in his possession. That's it. Barely a slap on the wrist.

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OMG!!! I'm sorry - I MUST SAY "WHAT IF???" and from all acounts THAT IF WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. We MUST warn other cooks out there re consequences!!!!!!
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[OrangeBlossomBaby]

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OMG!!! I'm sorry - I MUST SAY "WHAT IF???" and from all acounts THAT IF WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. We MUST warn other cooks out there re consequences!!!!!!
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What if what? Put some verbs in your sentences please; I don't speak thought-sense. If by "cooks" you mean "crooks" or "kooks" (either works), they either know already what the consequences are, or they don't care. That's what makes them crooks (or kooks, as the case may be).

Regardless, this DID make the national news. Your question was "why didn't this make the National news?" and you continued to criticize the lack of national news. It made the National news, you are criticizing the existence of something that doesn't exist (which is to say - a conspiracy by media to cover up something that wasn't covered up).

[Topspinmo]

Mental case or dumber than gooney bird. How do I know? Brings 6 unloaded guns and ammo in. Go to rest room makes lot noise loading taking his time so police can show up and arrest him. Who cares 6 gun and none of them loaded? another thing how do you get 6 guns and all the ammo into business? Mental case or dumber that gooney bird ������?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Mental case or dumber than gooney bird. How do I know? Brings 6 unloaded guns and ammo in. Go to both room makes lot noise loading taking his time so police can show up and arrest him. Who cares 6 gun and none of them loaded? another thing how do you get 6 guns and all the ammo into business? Mental case or dumber that gooney bird ������?

They get it in, because it it not illegal to do so. It is LEGAL to bring guns and ammo into businesses in Georgia. Perfectly, totally, completely legal. No permit required.

[Number 10 GI]

yup. Just like they came for our cars when they started requiring seat belts.

what?????????

[Number 10 GI]

I see it as apples to apples, but thanks for your input. In other words, they didn't come for our cars when there were efforts to make the use of cars safer by requiring seat belts...and they are not coming for anyone's guns in trying to make the use of guns safer.

Clearer? Or still a false equivalency?

So far beyond false that it is meaningless.

[Number 10 GI]

Your logic is clear.....your point is a great one.

Remember, these people don't think.....they simply repeat what they are told to think.

They rely on being the "victim" on every issue. No discussion, no nothing except that they believe everyone is out to get them.

I'm so glad that we have intellectually superior people like you to tell us how to think and what is the truth. The word "Elitist" comes to mind.

[Topspinmo]

I'm so glad that we have intellectually superior people like you to tell us how to think and what is the truth. The word "Elitist" comes to mind.

You’re post will get deleted like mine when calling him out.

[Topspinmo]

They get it in, because it it not illegal to do so. It is LEGAL to bring guns and ammo into businesses in Georgia. Perfectly, totally, completely legal. No permit required.

Was not shooting range or GUN store. I highly doubt you can walk in to any business with guns. How do you carry that many guns without being noticed? The guy was nut job.

[Number 10 GI]

They get it in, because it it not illegal to do so. It is LEGAL to bring guns and ammo into businesses in Georgia. Perfectly, totally, completely legal. No permit required.

Perfectly, totally, completely wrong! To carry a firearm openly or concealed in Georgia requires a permit. The only places in Georgia you can carry a weapon openly or concealed without a firearm permit is in your home, your privately owned business, in your car and while hunting if you hold a hunting license. Google is your friend.

[Number 10 GI]

Was not shooting range or GUN store. I highly doubt you can walk in to any business with guns. How do you carry that many guns without being noticed? The guy was nut job.

Agree, he is a nut job. From what I read he carried the handguns hidden in his clothing and the rifle and shotgun in a bag. Article didn't say if it was a gun case or just some kind of bag. It is illegal in Georgia to carry a firearm openly or concealed in public without a permit.

[Taltarzac725]

Get more intelligent discussion of mental health in our communities across the nation. Bring in experts from many fields and have them put together programs in their communities which are easy to use and do not require a lawyer to explain.

You could probably help with this. What is in your hometown library for those with mental illness and/or being bullied or bullying? How about on your hometown law enforcement web-sites for helping those with mental illness?

[stanley]

You’re post will get deleted like mine when calling him out.

And mine. It happens a lot.

[mike234]

another off the news story is that Cuomo is still in office, and is going nowhere. the outraged democrats have "just moved on, nothing to see here". the joke is on women, your politicians do not believe your stories about sexual harassment. and you vote for them over and over and over.......

[Tmarkwald]

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Whenever there is a 'mass shooting' it's huge news for a few days, as the nut killing 10 in the Boulder, CO store over a week ago and the Atlanta nut killing 8 around Massage stores. Yes horrible and deserves wide coverage.

But, DAYS after (last week) in a PUBLIX supermarket in Atlanta THIS ocurred>

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.
Police arrested a man with 6 guns

(CNN)An Instacart shopper who entered an Atlanta supermarket bathroom this week told police he saw an AR-15 style rifle and heard what he believed was the sound of someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.

The witness rushed out of the bathroom and notified staff at the Publix Supermarket. When police arrived soon after, they arrested a suspect as he was exiting the bathroom -- with six loaded guns in his possession.
The suspect, identified as 22-year-old Rico Marley, now faces a slew of charges related to the incident, which came just days after 10 people were killed in a mass shooting at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado.

According to the police incident report, Russell was entering the men's restroom when he "heard clicking sounds from the bathroom stall."
"It sounded to him like someone was loading firearms," an Atlanta officer wrote. "He also told me that he saw an AR-15 style rifle leaned against the wall."

After arresting Marley, police recovered six firearms: a DPMS AR-15-style rifle, a 12-gauge Maverick Arms Modell 88 shotgun, three semi-automatic 9 mm pistols and a .38-caliber revolver. All of the weapons were loaded and the rifle, shotgun and three 9 mm pistols all had a round in the chamber, according to the police report.
The suspect, who was wearing body armor when he was arrested, had the four handguns in his clothing while the rifle and shotgun were being carried inside a bag, the report says.

Att is a police photo of his loaded weapons. Imagine if that guy didn't hear the noise in the bathroom and alert police? yikes.
My reasoning for posting this is:

Why wasn't this HUGE nationwide news?
I happened upon this on a Yahoo news feed a couple days ago, googled and found this CNN article, and some others.
...only supposition I could arrive at was the 'suspect', that he didn't fit the 'Media's' model of the "typical" mass shooter to exploit.

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall. Police arrested a man with 6 guns - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/us/atlanta-guns-supermarket-witness/index.html)

It depends on who the target was going to be. Since January, outrage against shootings is only if the targets are certain groups of people. The majority are OK to target so not newsworthy.

Doesn't fit the narrative that's been presented since January...

[johnnascar]

you are outgunned with a pistol when confronting an idiot with an assault rifle. like the cop that got killed

[Neils]

Chicago is the shining example of tough gun control laws. Also a poster child for killings. About 30 every weekend.

Only the law abiding citizens follow the law and are disarmed and defenseless from the thugs

Gun control means easy pickings for armed criminals

[mike234]

one last thing gun owners. they are not going to do anything like take our guns away. talk, talk, talk, if they haven't done it by now. they never will. they don't really care because every shooting is a political gain for someone, and a political loss for someone else....
the joke is on the American people...

[pamhobbs]

More guns is so stupid...there are no words

[Bay Kid]

How about the 2 teenager girls that killed the Uber driver in DC by using a taser this past weekend. If you even heard about this they blame the Uber driver, not the girls.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

[DeanFL]

How about the 2 teenager girls that killed the Uber driver in DC by using a taser this past weekend. If you even heard about this they blame the Uber driver, not the girls.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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I saw the video of this "event" last night on the news. It almost made me sick to my stomach - really. 2 "girls, 13 & 15 walked up to a car and tazed the driver. As he was pleading for them to stop, holding onto the car side, they sped off and crashed the car a couple blocks later - car rolled over and pinned the man, died. Mohammad Anwar, 66, was making deliveries for Uber Eats.

He was a Pakistani immigrant - WORKING. These SCUM girls - of course most articles re this NEVER mention their race. You KNOW if it WAS a "RACE THING", Media would... Just to show the "girls" concern, after the crash with the car on its side with the man pinned - all one said was "My phone is inside!".

A horrible story. Wonder if Pakastanis will protest, riot, etc because of this ouright murder? sure...

here's an article re>>>>

2 Teen Girls Charged With Murder In Carjacking Death Of Uber Eats Driver | HuffPost (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mohammad-anwar-uber-driver-killed_n_60608fe9c5b65d1c28168b90)


OH- to make matters worse, after the "killing">
WASHINGTON — D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser is facing backlash for a tweet over the weekend that some are calling tone deaf.

The tweet, from the mayor's official Twitter account, read, "Auto theft is a crime of opportunity," and included a video of Metropolitan Police Department officers giving tips to prevent auto theft and carjackings.

The tweet has since been deleted, but it faced swift criticism online, in light of a recent carjacking that left 66-year-old Muhammad Anwar dead.

"Mayor Bowser keeps finding new lows," one user wrote. "Immigrants and citizens of DC deserve better."
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[JMintzer]

I find it interesting that this dummy has heard Biden, Harris, Feinstein, Beto (who Biden is putting in charge of the "gun problem") all say that want to ban and take away certain guns...

But nobody wants to take your guns...

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[NonResident]

There's a very nice quad-graph to explain how incidents are handled.

CRIME WITH A GUN:
If the perpetrator is a conservative, then it's right-wing extremism.
If the perpetrator is a progressive, then the gun is at fault.
If the perpetrator is white, then it's right-wing extremism.
If the perpetrator is anyone else, then the gun is at fault.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Was not shooting range or GUN store. I highly doubt you can walk in to any business with guns. How do you carry that many guns without being noticed? The guy was nut job.

In the state of Georgia, where this occurred, the only law broken was carrying the firearm while loaded out of the bathroom. It was LEGAL to bring the unloaded firearm INTO Publix. It was LEGAL to bring ammo INTO Publix. It was legal to carry both items around the store, and into the bathroom. That is 100% totally completely legal in Georgia, without any permit required. That is Georgia law.

The only thing that was illegal was him loading the firearm and walking out of the bathroom with it after it was loaded.

He never fired the rifle, there was no mass shooting.

In the state of Georgia, this is a non-issue. This is what THEIR 2A rights look like, in Georgia.

[justjim]

This is nonsense. Nobody is coming for our guns... this thread like many has turned political and I’m sick of making everything political. Give it a rest.

[NonResident]

This is nonsense. Nobody is coming for our guns... this thread like many has turned political and I’m sick of making everything political. Give it a rest.


Lol... by what logic do you assume this is true? The United States is one of the few countries that still allows guns. Do you remember in Australia when they banned guns and literally confiscated them? Millions and millions of guns... they went door to door taking guns from residents: Thousands of Australian Guns are Destroyed (1997) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ri7rZq2lFo)

You have politicians LITERALLY SAYING they're going to take our guns.

The SOLE purpose for the 2nd Amendment isn't for hunting, or because people like to collect and buy guns, it's because the population needs to defend themselves AGAINST a tyrannical government, and against foreign invaders. Period.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Lol... by what logic do you assume this is true? The United States is one of the few countries that still allows guns. Do you remember in Australia when they banned guns and literally confiscated them? Millions and millions of guns... they went door to door taking guns from residents: Thousands of Australian Guns are Destroyed (1997) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ri7rZq2lFo)

You have politicians LITERALLY SAYING they're going to take our guns.

The SOLE purpose for the 2nd Amendment isn't for hunting, or because people like to collect and buy guns, it's because the population needs to defend themselves AGAINST a tyrannical government, and against foreign invaders. Period.

Sadly, those are the things that gun owners are NOT using them for. They're using them to kill other American citizens. They're using them to rob banks. They're using them to hijack peoples' cars. They're using them to kidnap children. They're using them to shoot into crowds. They're using them to express their hatred of [insert whatever they hate here].

They're not using them to defend against a tyrannical government, and they're not using them against foreign invaders.

So basically, you feel everyone should carry weapons for reasons that have nothing to do with why they were allowed to have them in the first place.

Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. But I'm also absolutely pro-personal responsibility, which unfortunately too many gun-owners refuse to accept. And because the few ruin it for everyone else, I feel we need more CONTROL over who gets to carry legally, and who will be criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they possess one.

This way the illegal gun-owners who commit crimes with those illegally-owned guns, will have more severe consequences than those who owned their firearms legally.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Media only wants to promote crazy white guy who is not a muslim.

If they cannot pigeonhole them into that category will move on to the next one

I disagree completely. Media wants one thing, and one thing only - to maximize profits.

Every article, every spin on every article is evaluated for how much money it will make.

very media outlet has a target market, some focus on. liberals and some focus on conservatives. Few, if any, try to cater to both, because they would lose their audience if they did.

And lastly NO ONE (in general) wants to hear/read the truth. The vast majority of people scan headlines and only read articles that confirm what they already believe.

A few, a very small number, of people actually go out of their way to read news they disagree with,.

[JMintzer]

Sadly, those are the things that gun owners are NOT using them for. They're using them to kill other American citizens. They're using them to rob banks. They're using them to hijack peoples' cars. They're using them to kidnap children. They're using them to shoot into crowds. They're using them to express their hatred of [insert whatever they hate here].

Gun owners are doing that? All of them? Or are you talking about "ILLEGAL" gun owners?

They're not using them to defend against a tyrannical government, and they're not using them against foreign invaders.

Oh, really?

Battle of Athens (1946 - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946))

So basically, you feel everyone should carry weapons for reasons that have nothing to do with why they were allowed to have them in the first place.

See above...

Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. But I'm also absolutely pro-personal responsibility, which unfortunately too many gun-owners refuse to accept. And because the few ruin it for everyone else, I feel we need more CONTROL over who gets to carry legally, and who will be criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they possess one.

This way the illegal gun-owners who commit crimes with those illegally-owned guns, will have more severe consequences than those who owned their firearms legally.

I've got a crazy idea... How 'bout we start enforcing those laws already being broken before we start passing new laws that they not enforce?

You may -think- you're "absolutely pro 2-A, but you're not even close...

All those things you'd like cost $$$... Lot's of $$$

So, you're in favor of a "poll tax" for gun owners, disenfranchising the poor from being able to purchase a gun to defend themselves...

Just curious, what are your views on Voter ID? Is it "too burdensome" or even, dare I say, "RACIST" to require an ID to vote?

Does it disenfranchise poor voters or minority voters?

[stanley]

"Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. "BUT"

The "BUT" part always cracks me up and makes me shake my head

[Joe V.]

you are outgunned with a pistol when confronting an idiot with an assault rifle. like the cop that got killed


What is an assault rifle, your definition, please. Being black and scary?

[stanley]

you are outgunned with a pistol when confronting an idiot with an assault rifle. like the cop that got killed

Given that argument.........fight fire with fire, I'm good with that.

[Topspinmo]

It's proved to be great for business for the gun and ammo manufacturers though, to keep scaring the easily gullible people by constantly saying it.


ANd where most of the these guns and ammo made. Northeast aNd California. Funny how they want to control type of guns but ok with them making them i theatre state.

[jimjamuser]

If this potential shooter knew that 75% of the people in that supermarket, including managers and employees, were armed he probably wouldn't have thought about what he was about to do.

The same for the Boulder shooter.

There are of course, a few of these idiots that want to die and would still try a mass shooting knowing that they would be killed, but if more people were armed, the damage would be minimized.
So, that thesis would be........MORE guns in more hands equals less VIOLENCE and killing. I don't buy that. What I think would work is to require the manufactures to produce ONLY SINGLE-SHOT pistols, rifles, and shotguns. Police could slowly get semi-autos off the streets with normal Police work as weapons were used in crimes. They could buy back other semi-auto weapons from WILLING sellers or who would trade for single shots. After about 3 generations there would be very few semi-autos on the street or in Civilian hands.
All gun groups would have given some - for a safer America. Gun manufactures would lose their highest profit margin military-style rifles. Hunters would hunt better because they would have to place carefully that one shot - they would lose only the inefficient idea of "spraying" shots around Homeowners would lose SOME firepower and defense capacity for ONLY 3 generation. Target shooters and trap shooters would lose virtually nothing. Gun owners would not even need ANY background checks after 3 generations in my opinion. Less legislation over "baby steps" would be needed. This would be a simple and clean solution. Mass murders would drop to zero after 3 generations. And BONUS, the guns could be sold in 3rd world countries to make a profit for the Police and cost the taxpayer ZERO!

This is ridiculous and would NEVER work - you say? Not so say I.....use your google machine......
Australia did just about this VERY thing several years ago - they bought and melted down ALL their citizens semi-autos ( I think that they allowed bolt actions, not sure). They did it quickly, not in 3 generations. And since that buyback, there has been ZERO MASS MURDERS in Australia!!!!!!! Check that out sport fans!

[stanley]

So, that thesis would be........MORE guns in more hands equals less VIOLENCE and killing. I don't buy that. What I think would work is to require the manufactures to produce ONLY SINGLE-SHOT pistols, rifles, and shotguns. Police could slowly get semi-autos off the streets with normal Police work as weapons were used in crimes. They could buy back other semi-auto weapons from WILLING sellers or who would trade for single shots. After about 3 generations there would be very few semi-autos on the street or in Civilian hands.
All gun groups would have given some - for a safer America. Gun manufactures would lose their highest profit margin military-style rifles. Hunters would hunt better because they would have to place carefully that one shot - they would lose only the inefficient idea of "spraying" shots around Homeowners would lose SOME firepower and defense capacity for ONLY 3 generation. Target shooters and trap shooters would lose virtually nothing. Gun owners would not even need ANY background checks after 3 generations in my opinion. Less legislation over "baby steps" would be needed. This would be a simple and clean solution. Mass murders would drop to zero after 3 generations. And BONUS, the guns could be sold in 3rd world countries to make a profit for the Police and cost the taxpayer ZERO!



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You do have a sense of humor!

[JMintzer]

So, that thesis would be........MORE guns in more hands equals less VIOLENCE and killing. I don't buy that. What I think would work is to require the manufactures to produce ONLY SINGLE-SHOT pistols, rifles, and shotguns. Police could slowly get semi-autos off the streets with normal Police work as weapons were used in crimes. They could buy back other semi-auto weapons from WILLING sellers or who would trade for single shots. After about 3 generations there would be very few semi-autos on the street or in Civilian hands.
All gun groups would have given some - for a safer America. Gun manufactures would lose their highest profit margin military-style rifles. Hunters would hunt better because they would have to place carefully that one shot - they would lose only the inefficient idea of "spraying" shots around Homeowners would lose SOME firepower and defense capacity for ONLY 3 generation. Target shooters and trap shooters would lose virtually nothing. Gun owners would not even need ANY background checks after 3 generations in my opinion. Less legislation over "baby steps" would be needed. This would be a simple and clean solution. Mass murders would drop to zero after 3 generations. And BONUS, the guns could be sold in 3rd world countries to make a profit for the Police and cost the taxpayer ZERO!

This is ridiculous and would NEVER work - you say? Not so say I.....use your google machine......
Australia did just about this VERY thing several years ago - they bought and melted down ALL their citizens semi-autos ( I think that they allowed bolt actions, not sure). They did it quickly, not in 3 generations. And since that buyback, there has been ZERO MASS MURDERS in Australia!!!!!!! Check that out sport fans!

Australia had almost ZERO MSASS MURDERS before their "so called" gun ban.

They knee jerked their way to the ban...

And now? There are more guns owned than before the "ban"...

[Northwoods]

Sadly, those are the things that gun owners are NOT using them for. They're using them to kill other American citizens. They're using them to rob banks. They're using them to hijack peoples' cars. They're using them to kidnap children. They're using them to shoot into crowds. They're using them to express their hatred of [insert whatever they hate here].

They're not using them to defend against a tyrannical government, and they're not using them against foreign invaders.

So basically, you feel everyone should carry weapons for reasons that have nothing to do with why they were allowed to have them in the first place.

Personally - I have no problem with people owning firearms. I'd like universal background checks, I'd like mandatory federal licensing that requires that you take an actual test, I'd like mandatory classroom and target instruction. I'm absolutely pro-2A. But I'm also absolutely pro-personal responsibility, which unfortunately too many gun-owners refuse to accept. And because the few ruin it for everyone else, I feel we need more CONTROL over who gets to carry legally, and who will be criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they possess one.

This way the illegal gun-owners who commit crimes with those illegally-owned guns, will have more severe consequences than those who owned their firearms legally.

OBB. I agree with you.

I agree with you about mandatory background checks, classroom and target instruction.
I believe guns should be treated like owning a car and having a Drivers license.
I don’t have an issue with banning assault weapons. I can’t imagine a reason for having one.
I believe there are many law-abiding people who own guns. They should be able to own guns.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

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Whenever there is a 'mass shooting' it's huge news for a few days, as the nut killing 10 in the Boulder, CO store over a week ago and the Atlanta nut killing 8 around Massage stores. Yes horrible and deserves wide coverage.

But, DAYS after (last week) in a PUBLIX supermarket in Atlanta THIS ocurred>

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.
Police arrested a man with 6 guns

(CNN)An Instacart shopper who entered an Atlanta supermarket bathroom this week told police he saw an AR-15 style rifle and heard what he believed was the sound of someone loading guns in a bathroom stall.

The witness rushed out of the bathroom and notified staff at the Publix Supermarket. When police arrived soon after, they arrested a suspect as he was exiting the bathroom -- with six loaded guns in his possession.
The suspect, identified as 22-year-old Rico Marley, now faces a slew of charges related to the incident, which came just days after 10 people were killed in a mass shooting at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado.

According to the police incident report, Russell was entering the men's restroom when he "heard clicking sounds from the bathroom stall."
"It sounded to him like someone was loading firearms," an Atlanta officer wrote. "He also told me that he saw an AR-15 style rifle leaned against the wall."

After arresting Marley, police recovered six firearms: a DPMS AR-15-style rifle, a 12-gauge Maverick Arms Modell 88 shotgun, three semi-automatic 9 mm pistols and a .38-caliber revolver. All of the weapons were loaded and the rifle, shotgun and three 9 mm pistols all had a round in the chamber, according to the police report.
The suspect, who was wearing body armor when he was arrested, had the four handguns in his clothing while the rifle and shotgun were being carried inside a bag, the report says.

Att is a police photo of his loaded weapons. Imagine if that guy didn't hear the noise in the bathroom and alert police? yikes.
My reasoning for posting this is:

Why wasn't this HUGE nationwide news?
I happened upon this on a Yahoo news feed a couple days ago, googled and found this CNN article, and some others.
...only supposition I could arrive at was the 'suspect', that he didn't fit the 'Media's' model of the "typical" mass shooter to exploit.

An Instacart shopper believed he heard someone loading guns in a bathroom stall. Police arrested a man with 6 guns - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/us/atlanta-guns-supermarket-witness/index.html)
3 days in a row I haven’t read many of the responses because I figure I already know the responses, like he was black, liberal press , blah , blah, blah the main reason it died down I suspect is because of the old newspaper saying If It Bleeds It Leads , nobody bleed , end of story.

[billethkid]

There is a significant consistency in discussions about recent shootings and that is the mis-understood and inappropriate categorization of weapons used as "ASSAULT RIFLES".

In the majority of cases they are not.

The following goes a long way to educate the meaning of AR....

Modern Sporting Rifle: Introduction • NSSF (https://www.nssf.org/msr/)

(Some will fault the article source....if one doesn't like this one just google "what is an assault rifle"....they all state the same)

It is recognized that becoming aware of the real description it will not be acknowledged by the anti gun agenda, jargon, rhetoric and special interest urban legends.

[JMintzer]

OBB. I agree with you.

I agree with you about mandatory background checks, classroom and target instruction.
I believe guns should be treated like owning a car and having a Drivers license.
I don’t have an issue with banning assault weapons. I can’t imagine a reason for having one.
I believe there are many law-abiding people who own guns. They should be able to own guns.

Just not the guns you don't like...

Oh, and please tell me, what other Constitutionally Protected Right requirers classroom and target instruction and licensing?

Hell, there are waaaay to many that believe that simply showing an ID to vote is an infringement...

But sure, add more hoops to jump thru to own a gun, when we already have thousands of laws on the books that aren't enforced...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Just not the guns you don't like...

Oh, and please tell me, what other Constitutionally Protected Right requirers classroom and target instruction and licensing?

Hell, there are waaaay to many that believe that simply showing an ID to vote is an infringement...

But sure, add more hoops to jump thru to own a gun, when we already have thousands of laws on the books that aren't enforced...

No other constitutionally protected right involves targets. Not sure where you thought you were going with that one.

There are, however, rules and regs for all other constitutionally protected rights. Each right comes with it certain responsibilities. Like, freedom of religion for example:

You have the right to practice your religion. HOWEVER: if practicing your religion requires that you stop in the middle of the highway because it's noon, getting out of your car, laying a prayer mat down, and praying on your knees facing Mecca for 5 minutes every day, then no - you don't have that right.

Back to weapons: it is illegal to possess a grenade or a bomb. Those are weapons, and it's been illegal to posses them since 1938. I don't hear anyone hollering about those, why the fuss about semi-automatic weapons? Buy a rifle or pistol if that's what you'd like to do. Nothing wrong with it. Just make sure it's registered, and make sure you know how to use it, how NOT to use it, when to use it, when NOT to use it. Make sure that if you plan on using it on a person, you don't miss.

It's not much to ask, really.

[JMintzer]

No other constitutionally protected right involves targets. Not sure where you thought you were going with that one.

There are, however, rules and regs for all other constitutionally protected rights. Each right comes with it certain responsibilities. Like, freedom of religion for example:

You have the right to practice your religion. HOWEVER: if practicing your religion requires that you stop in the middle of the highway because it's noon, getting out of your car, laying a prayer mat down, and praying on your knees facing Mecca for 5 minutes every day, then no - you don't have that right.

Nice red herring...

Back to weapons: it is illegal to possess a grenade or a bomb. Those are weapons, and it's been illegal to posses them since 1938.

No, you most certainly can own a grenade. Just get the proper tax stamp...

As for a bomb... Define what kind of bomb...

But we're not talking about those. You just threw that in to muddy up the conversation...

I don't hear anyone hollering about those, why the fuss about semi-automatic weapons? Buy a rifle or pistol if that's what you'd like to do. Nothing wrong with it. Just make sure it's registered, and make sure you know how to use it, how NOT to use it, when to use it, when NOT to use it. Make sure that if you plan on using it on a person, you don't miss.

It's not much to ask, really.

Yes, why the fuss about "semi-automatic" weapons?

You do realize that the vast majority of pistols and rifles sold are "semi-automatic" weapons, don't you? Or are you talking about something of which you have no knowledge?

And why should I be required to register anything? Registration leads to confiscation. It's happened over and over again...

Make sure I know how to use it? Not really that hard... When to use it? Again, not really that hard...

Don't miss? Did you know that the "trained law enforcement officers", you know, the ones people love to say should be the only ones who have guns? Those guys... They only hit their target 30% of the time... Adrenaline is a bitch...

[Lindsyburnsy]

More guns is nonsense. I do not want to be in a store, restaurant or anywhere else for that matter where there's a nut job who thinks he has to hitch a long gun to his backside and yet, it's inconvenient for this same guy to wear a mask? Please.

[Northwoods]

Just not the guns you don't like...

Oh, and please tell me, what other Constitutionally Protected Right requirers classroom and target instruction and licensing?

Hell, there are waaaay to many that believe that simply showing an ID to vote is an infringement...

But sure, add more hoops to jump thru to own a gun, when we already have thousands of laws on the books that aren't enforced...

As of 1986, ownership of fully automatic firearms and parts that fire bullets without stopping once the trigger is depressed is banned. Legal machine guns must be manufactured before 1986.
I believe that people have the right to own a gun for both protection and sport. I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

[Joe V.]

As of 1986, ownership of fully automatic firearms and parts that fire bullets without stopping once the trigger is depressed is banned. Legal machine guns must be manufactured before 1986.
I believe that people have the right to own a gun for both protection and sport. I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

Wrong. You may still own a machine gun if allowed in your state. FL is one of these states. A FFL is the easiest way to obtain one, along with money to pay for it. The machine gun must be registered with the Federal government though.

[JMintzer]

As of 1986, ownership of fully automatic firearms and parts that fire bullets without stopping once the trigger is depressed is banned. Legal machine guns must be manufactured before 1986.
I believe that people have the right to own a gun for both protection and sport. I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

Nope. Perfectly legal to own a fully auto machine gun. Just do the required paperwork and it's yours.

Of course it'll cost a pretty penny, but it perfectly legal...

But could you tell me who was talking about fully automatic weapons?

I know I wasn't...

[JMintzer]

More guns is nonsense. I do not want to be in a store, restaurant or anywhere else for that matter where there's a nut job who thinks he has to hitch a long gun to his backside and yet, it's inconvenient for this same guy to wear a mask? Please.

Where exactly, is this happening? And what in the world does it have to do with wearing a mask?

Would you feel better if the said "nut job" was wearing a mask?

[JMintzer]

I just struggle with all the deaths that have occurred by someone using a rapid fire weapon. It’s just how I feel.
Oh - and I 100% believe that you should have to show an ID to vote!!!!

When was the last time someone used a machine gun in a crime?

[Northwoods]

Wrong. You may still own a machine gun if allowed in your state. FL is one of these states. A FFL is the easiest way to obtain one, along with money to pay for it. The machine gun must be registered with the Federal government though.

Based on my internet search it says that you can own a machine gun if it was made before 1981. Plus it takes 3 -5 months to process. And there are a few additional hoops to jump through.
I’m just saying.... I’m not a fan of rapid fire weapons. That is my opinion.

[Northwoods]

When was the last time someone used a machine gun in a crime?

I can’t think of a time. I think that’s a good thing.
Someone was talking about 2nd Amendment rights and I pointed out the difficulty of owning a machine gun. Personally, I would be fine with having the same regulations for all rapid fire weapons as machine guns.

[Northwoods]

Nope. Perfectly legal to own a fully auto machine gun. Just do the required paperwork and it's yours.

Of course it'll cost a pretty penny, but it perfectly legal...

But could you tell me who was talking about fully automatic weapons?

I know I wasn't...

I’ll tell you what, I’d be just fine with having the same restrictions that are on machine guns put on all rapid fire weapons.
So see... I can compromise!!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I’ll tell you what, I’d be just fine with having the same restrictions that are on machine guns put on all rapid fire weapons.
So see... I can compromise!!

As long as the restrictions were enforced, sure. Unfortunately many of the laws and restrictions aren't enforceable. What they need to do is remove the rules that -can't- be enforced, and create ones that can.

And enforce consequences for violations, which are absolutely not enforced equally among all violators.

[JMintzer]

I can’t think of a time. I think that’s a good thing.
Someone was talking about 2nd Amendment rights and I pointed out the difficulty of owning a machine gun. Personally, I would be fine with having the same regulations for all rapid fire weapons as machine guns.

Please explain what exactly is a "rapid fire weapon"?

The rate of fire is determined by how fast you can pull the trigger...

One trigger pull = One BANG!

[JMintzer]

As long as the restrictions were enforced, sure. Unfortunately many of the laws and restrictions aren't enforceable. What they need to do is remove the rules that -can't- be enforced, and create ones that can.

And enforce consequences for violations, which are absolutely not enforced equally among all violators.

What laws and restrictions "aren't enforceable"?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

What laws and restrictions "aren't enforceable"?

Why don't you already know the answer to this?

[JMintzer]

Why don't you already know the answer to this?

Because there is a difference between laws the "aren't enforceable" and laws that simply "aren't enforced"...

You made the claim that there are laws that "can't" be enforced. I asked you to please cite those laws...

[Bay Kid]

The way our country is heading we better be prepared. Within a few years the media and our current leaders will remove those big, bad police and our guns. Then the criminals will be in charge.

[Tmarkwald]

When was the last time someone used a machine gun in a crime?

Valentine's Day Massacre.. I saw the movie LOL

[Tmarkwald]

What is an assault rifle, your definition, please. Being black and scary?

Apparently so.

And some people actually believe the narrative that AR, as in AR-15, stands for Assault Rifle.

Which of course, is a pure fabrication and an attempt to brainwash the populous.