Daily Sun Biased

[PAPO]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

[Bogie Shooter]

You get honest answers, right here . If not correct they will be challenged.
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Taltarzac725]

They are usually biased in another direction but try The Orlando Sentinel and the Daily Commercial which is out of Leesburg. They do cover the Villages rather often.

Top Orlando News, Weather, Sports, Entertainment (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/)

Leesburg Daily Commercial: Local News, Politics & Sports in Leesburg, FL (https://www.dailycommercial.com/)

Also this-- Ocala StarBanner: Local News, Politics & Sports in Ocala, FL (https://www.ocala.com/)

[Stu from NYC]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

Daily Sun gives new meaning to being biased.

[Fredster]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

Good luck with your search...
Seems as though the honest answers are always skewed by biased opinions!

[Hape2Bhr]

Daily Sun gives new meaning to being biased.

I often wonder how many of us were forced to move here. And why others do not buy property and start their own development. I would take a look if you'd provide what is available here. :)

[Stu from NYC]

I often wonder how many of us were forced to move here. And why others do not buy property and start their own development. I would take a look if you'd provide what is available here. :)

We moved here because of what this place had to offer. Been here a year and happy we did so.

We rented for a month June 2019 and got the paper that time and during that time had no idea how biased it was as there were no political dealings going on at that time.

Having said the paper is biased we would still have come just give little credibility to the antics of the developer.

[EdFNJ]

I often wonder how many of us were forced to move here. And why others do not buy property and start their own development. I would take a look if you'd provide what is available here. :)
And what does that have to do with living here? Many TV channels are biased, you just don't watch them and you don't burn your TV.

The "if you don't like this or that attitude then MOVE or why did you come here" is really ridiculous. That's a common cry around here when anyone voices an opinion that others don't agree with.

[Bucco]

We moved here because of what this place had to offer. Been here a year and happy we did so.

We rented for a month June 2019 and got the paper that time and during that time had no idea how biased it was as there were no political dealings going on at that time.

Having said the paper is biased we would still have come just give little credibility to the antics of the developer.

Curious...can you define the Daily Suns bias ? In what way do they show this bias ?

Been here for over 20 years....just wondering what you discovered that makes you say what you are saying , and that doe not say I disagree, but if you are going make this accusation, it needs to be spelled out.

That is what adults do.

Thank you

If you wish, I will promise to respond, but want to hear what you say first.

[Nucky]

We moved here because of what this place had to offer. Been here a year and happy we did so.

We rented for a month June 2019 and got the paper that time and during that time had no idea how biased it was as there were no political dealings going on at that time.

Having said the paper is biased we would still have come just give little credibility to the antics of the developer.

Stu, thanks for your opinion. That's something that can't be taken away from you ever by anyone. :boxing2:

I don't agree with you but your opinion is your opinion and you deserve to express it here. That's what here is here 4. :mademyday:

[graciegirl]

It may seem biased to the OP. But it seems unbiased to two out of every three people living in The Villages. Papers are geared to their readers. I suggest the Orlando Slantinel.

[Mleeja]

It may seem biased to the OP. But it seems unbiased to two out of every three people living in The Villages. Papers are geared to their readers. I suggest the Orlando Slantinel.

Yes, the Orlando paper never has a good thing to write about the Villages. It is the paper of choice for all the people who think the Morse family is the recreation of the devil.:a040:

[Stu from NYC]

It may seem biased to the OP. But it seems unbiased to two out of every three people living in The Villages. Papers are geared to their readers. I suggest the Orlando Slantinel.

two out of three?

[Stu from NYC]

Stu, thanks for your opinion. That's something that can't be taken away from you ever by anyone. :boxing2:

I don't agree with you but your opinion is your opinion and you deserve to express it here. That's what here is here 4. :mademyday:

Have you spoken to my favorite wife about me keeping my opinions?

[billethkid]

My guess? almost nobody made their decision to buy or not based on what is in the newspaper (any paper).

We all have criteria of all kinds and we buy where most of that is met.

One post referred to "...being forced to buy here...". That needs a little explanation.

We made our decision back in 2003. Built and moved in May 2004. More than a 100,000 more people made the same choice since then!

We would make the same decision(s) today that we made in 2003. Lifestyle....lifestyle...LIFESTYLE!!!!!

In my opinion TV has only gotten better.

[dewilson58]

My guess? almost nobody made their decision to buy or not based on what is in the newspaper (any paper)..
:bigbow:An educated guess, if not fact.
If someone did buy based on a newspaper (mostly with such heavy advertising) wow....they have issues.

[EdFNJ]

It may seem biased to the OP. But it seems unbiased to two out of every three people living in The Villages. Papers are geared to their readers. I suggest the Orlando Slantinel.

two out of three?


Which is exactly why it should be seen as biased. LOL NEWSpapers should be geared to the NEWS based on FACTS not on the 2 out of 3 people they are writing for or who their owners send large amounts of money to impress. This would apply to any newspaper as well as the "Daily Sun" which questionably should even be considered a NEWSpaper but more of an advertising arm of The Villages.

[Bogie Shooter]

Which is exactly why it should be seen as biased. LOL NEWSpapers should be geared to the NEWS based on FACTS not on the 2 out of 3 people they are writing for or who their owners send large amounts of money to impress. This would apply to any newspaper as well as the "Daily Sun" which questionably should even be considered a NEWSpaper but more of an advertising arm of The Villages.
MY guess we all know that. I have a subscription.......do you? If not your opinion is worthless....

[Bucco]

I do not understand what "bias" means in the context of the Daily Sun.

I have read the Daily Sun each and every morning for...well over 20 years. I know a number of very long time employees of the Daily Sun.

It is a "house organ", meaning it was something that originally was intended to assist in selling homes. It is undoubtedly the best place to find a home to buy or rent in The Villages. It was never intended to complete with Orlando or Tampa in news content.

Most "news" content is local.....as it should be.

If there is a "negative" story about The Villages, you will not read it.

Editorial content will always be 100% bias to one side. Along with presentation of national and international news.

SO, when folks call it bias......yeah it is....the owner and developer are one in the same. The mission is to BE BIAS .

It was never intended to give you unbiased news coverage.

I have asked why people say it is bias, with no luck.

You need to accept it for what it is.

[Stu from NYC]

I do not understand what "bias" means in the context of the Daily Sun.

I have read the Daily Sun each and every morning for...well over 20 years. I know a number of very long time employees of the Daily Sun.

It is a "house organ", meaning it was something that originally was intended to assist in selling homes. It is undoubtedly the best place to find a home to buy or rent in The Villages. It was never intended to complete with Orlando or Tampa in news content.

Most "news" content is local.....as it should be.

If there is a "negative" story about The Villages, you will not read it.

Editorial content will always be 100% bias to one side. Along with presentation of national and international news.

SO, when folks call it bias......yeah it is....the owner and developer are one in the same. The mission is to BE BIAS .

It was never intended to give you unbiased news coverage.

I have asked why people say it is bias, with no luck.

You need to accept it for what it is.

When we first moved here we got a subscription and silly us thought it was a real newspaper dedicated to publish the "news".

Until recently thought it was really publishing the news. Now that we know more we understand it is owned by the developer and will print the "facts" as the developer decides them to be.

We will still get the paper as the info on what is going on around here is worth it to us but IMHO it is biased.

[EdFNJ]

MY guess we all know that. I have a subscription.......do you? If not your opinion is worthless.... My comment wasn't addressed to you but to STU but gee willickers I sure do have a sub so that makes my opinion worth exactly the same as you paid for your opinion. ;) I have had a sub since we moved in 3 1/2 years ago. I remember getting it at our first Market Night at LSL despite the fact the salesperson at the stand wouldn't even give me a "free" copy of the paper from her pile even after I gave her my $80something check for a full year. My wife likes the supermarket coupons and I like the funnies on Sunday. I figure I often waste more than the $84/yr I pay for it on other things and it adds solid weight to my trash bag so it doesn't blow down the street during a T-storm. Even if I did NOT have a sub I could still buy 'em for fitty cents in dozens of machines throughout The Villages on a "need to read" basis and form my opinion for just a couple bucks a month. Didn't know a sub was a requirement to form an opinion. :ohdear:

[egmcaninch]

I often wonder how many of us were forced to move here. And why others do not buy property and start their own development. I would take a look if you'd provide what is available here. :)

We moved here 3 years ago and have NO regrets. Our plan is to live here as long as we can. BTW - We live in Fenney.

[Trynforpar]

We moved here in 2018 because we loved what we saw and what there was to offer. The local news paper did not weigh in at all in our decision to move. I purchase the paper mainly so my wife can do her puzzles and I do like to scan the sports section. Most all local newspapers are biased and they use tactics to scare residents in the hope of swaying votes.

[Rich42]

Gee, the Daily Sun is owned and operated by the developer, why would you possibly think it was biased?

[airdale2]

Orlandos paper $220 per year. mostly about their crime but does have a section about Lake county.

[Girlcopper]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers
I really dont understand this post. Skip this paper if you feel its biased. Just like you would skip a channel if you didnt like the tv show. This is a small community paper. Of course, its biased. Why would you expect to have it say anything negative about the Villages?.?

[vb993]

Try the online "villages news" dot com

[J1ceasar]

Thank you guys for giving me such a laugh. Of course this paper is biased and slanted towards all the good of The villages. After reading the first page you want anybody realize that? People move to The villages not to get there fabulous well researched unbiased newspaper. They obviously move here for the wonderful restaurants the fantastic friendly neighbors who never talk about the gnomes on the lawns and the very inexpensive HOA fees. Everybody loves the fact that in the winter the restaurants are never crowded, in the summer we have wonderful customer service with everybody wearing masks.. you should look as the newspaper as another amenity, has somebody noted above it gives great coupons and comics and crossword puzzles all the rest as an Air Force pilot under attack would say is chaff. . I haven't found the news outlet whether it's TV radio or print that is not slanted one way or the other mostly to the other way when we first moved out here into Leesburg I was astounded to know that 55.8% of the population leaned exactly the same way I did from the town I moved from. I didn't worry about whether I would ever get the news again the way I read it as it was a thing called my brain which selected what I wanted to see read and understand. When you do read The villages newspaper you have a choice of believing anything they say although I will say that their writers of opinion and fact could have been the best advertising people on Madison avenue for slanting things the way they want you to tell about a 25% tax increase suddenly becomes needed and normal and nothing is going to change the fact that Sumter residents were taken for 50 million last year and will be taking for 50 million this year probably extra from the years before. All you have to do is Google the budgets and the taxes for Sumter and compare them to local counties near you. You can use your own brain to figure out whether or not your politicians are being efficient with your tax dollars, it does not matter who pays their salaries

[Tmarkwald]

Daily Sun gives new meaning to being biased.

The Villages is all sunshine and butterflies!

[Kvancamp]

Curious...can you define the Daily Suns bias ? In what way do they show this bias ?

Been here for over 20 years....just wondering what you discovered that makes you say what you are saying , and that doe not say I disagree, but if you are going make this accusation, it needs to be spelled out.

That is what adults do.

Thank you

If you wish, I will promise to respond, but want to hear what you say first.

I found the stories on the front page of The Daily Sun over the past few weeks, related to impact fees, were clearly biased, attempting to sway public opinion against the 3 commissioners who voted in favor of raising the fees. Call me naive, but I only learned a couple of weeks ago that the Sun is owned by The Villages Developer, so I was angry when I found that out. I thought they should have put a disclaimer on those stories, since the developer clearly has a big stake in these tax increases.

I've only lived in TV 8 months, and have been a subscriber to the Sun for 6 months. To be honest, the fact that it took me this long to notice the bias is a tribute to their editors. One of the reasons I subscribe to the Sun is for the world and national news from the Associated Press. Since I was a teenager, I have trusted the AP for its unbiased reporting, and I was determined to keep reading the AP stories when I moved to TV; but you can't read their stories on-line - as far as I know you can only get them in printed newspapers.

The Villages Developer is well known to have political leanings, nationally as well as locally. The Sun editors get hundreds of AP stories every day, and they get to choose which stories to run, where to place them, and how to headline them. Last year, there were many AP stories featured prominently on the front page of the Sun, fact-checking the president. That the developer allowed the editors the freedom to choose all these stories is a big plus in the Sun's favor.

So I'm not cancelling my subscription to the Sun, I'm just moving ahead with a little less naivete.

[TC_Arch]

The biggest problem with that "newspaper" is that there is no "news", especially local news. There is really no good source for local news in the area.

[mk1126]

Orlando Sentinel

[paulajr]

Name me ONE newspaper in the USA that is NOT biased these days...I’ll wait.



Which is exactly why it should be seen as biased. LOL NEWSpapers should be geared to the NEWS based on FACTS not on the 2 out of 3 people they are writing for or who their owners send large amounts of money to impress. This would apply to any newspaper as well as the "Daily Sun" which questionably should even be considered a NEWSpaper but more of an advertising arm of The Villages.

[DaleDivine]

Try the online "villages news" dot com

Exactly what I was going to suggest.
Gives all the dirt that is going on in The Villages that the Sun won't print.
Such as accidents, arrests, drug busts, DUI's etc.

[Marykschulz]

In addition to the The Daily Sun, We have the Orlando Sentinel delivered daily despite some of the negative comments posted about it in this thread. We think the Sentinel has good local, state, and national coverage. Delivery isn’t cheap, but we think it’s worth it to read more than one point of view.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

You might try the NYT. 🤣🤣🤣

[Villages Kahuna]

You must be referring to The Daily Fun

[billethkid]

Exactly what I was going to suggest.
Gives all the dirt that is going on in The Villages that the Sun won't print.
Such as accidents, arrests, drug busts, DUI's etc.

Seems like their preference is the local police blotter.

Very poor composition on most subjects.

[TedfromGA]

Try Breitbart News for just the news without the editorial slant or bias. Online only. Breitbart News Network (https://www.breitbart.com/)

[sdos0106]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

You may have the Florida Sentinel delivered or receive it online. Currently, there is a special for three months online for $1.

[PennBF]

Come on, you can't be "biased" against your self! If the paper is, as it is alleged owned by the developer then it is not "biased" as it is his way of expressing himself. The problem is the competition is in other forms of the media, (e.g. Talk of the Villages, etc) which many should but don't read. There is a contingency of residents who either work for, or have fanatical love and devotion for the developer. I have in the past supported his actions and the ability to create a community so unique and wonderful as The Villages. My positive reactions to his Management of such a complicated set of business decisions was impacted when it was brought out that he or his organization was allegedly bribing a State Legislature and he or his organization was denying some to make a living by
signing them up as Real Estate Contractors and then allegedly using them as employees. Any 1st line manager in a major corporation knows the rules on this and is warned not to allow it to happen. Because the Sun does not do investigative work and since it is well known that allegedly it is an arm of the Developer then why be surprised at its reporting. It does provide a lot of local information, sports, etc.then it is worth the subscription but it is up to the reader to separate the politics from the wheat. :ho:

[guitarguy]

EVERY newspaper reflects the philosophy/opinion of its owner/publisher. To not understand this is being naive.

[Stu from NYC]

You might try the NYT. 🤣🤣🤣

Think the Times started the trend toward biased newspapers. Very sad.

[Stu from NYC]

EVERY newspaper reflects the philosophy/opinion of its owner/publisher. To not understand this is being naive.

True but sometimes they separate the news from the editorial page.

The Sun feels lets have the news articles be the editorials and hopefully the people reading the paper will not realize what we are doing.

[DAVES]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

Every news source is going to have a bias. It is interesting to read who owns the news.
In the 1960's there were fifty major owners of news sources today it is down to five.

[merrymini]

Most reporting is biased, especially now, but the daily (good news) sun would probably win the trophy, after all, it is published by the developer. As big a rag as any of them. Letting my subscription expire since they do not recycle any more. I would like to know what study was done to see if two out of three people think it is unbiased.

[mcwood4d]

Bias is everywhere, it is our job as adults to decide what is important and what is bias. No purveyor of "news" is without bias. Critical thinking has never been more important (IMHO).

[DAVES]

Exactly what I was going to suggest.
Gives all the dirt that is going on in The Villages that the Sun won't print.
Such as accidents, arrests, drug busts, DUI's etc.

Current, actually not current but forever is freedom of communication. The first amendment to our constitution protects freedom of speech, the right to assemble.

For too many and that too has always been so. Only those who agree with me have the right to speak. It is great that thanks to the internet we can tap into information from around the world.

Bias. Google is the search engine used by 90% or so of people. It is interesting to try some of the others such as Yahoo and see other choices. People only look at the first ten. Old news, a friend had a mail order business, he has passed so I don't know if it is still so. He was paying a fee to move his company up the list on a search engine.

A question, a valid question, who is paying to promote what we see. Most of us, including me, forget to wonder.

[jimjamuser]

I often wonder how many of us were forced to move here. And why others do not buy property and start their own development. I would take a look if you'd provide what is available here. :)
A point here is that humans ALWAYS strive to improve themselves and their surroundings. It's human nature. Criticism leads to problem-solving. A movie critic helps to improve movies. Nothing wrong with helpful critisism.

[Notsocrates]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

As a former newspaper reporter, I can say that newspapers almost alwayshave a point of view. The Daily Sun is known to be a house organ for The Villages Developer and its influence is small. Their advocacy is transparent. Everyone knows this, even their writers and editors.

[sullinr]

For the most part my wife and I love the Daily Sun, We know that it’s just a tool for the developer to sell more property. But it has more positives then negatives. We love reading A paper that is not so negative. We can get doomsday information from the television every day . It’s the developers paper and he has a right to publish news that would benefit his business. You just have to read between the lines.

[jimjamuser]

And what does that have to do with living here? Many TV channels are biased, you just don't watch them and you don't burn your TV.

The "if you don't like this or that attitude then MOVE or why did you come here" is really ridiculous. That's a common cry around here when anyone voices an opinion that others don't agree with.
The question answers itself - "MANY TV channels". If there were only one TV channel - like only one newspaper, then that would be a problem.

[jimjamuser]

I do not understand what "bias" means in the context of the Daily Sun.

I have read the Daily Sun each and every morning for...well over 20 years. I know a number of very long time employees of the Daily Sun.

It is a "house organ", meaning it was something that originally was intended to assist in selling homes. It is undoubtedly the best place to find a home to buy or rent in The Villages. It was never intended to complete with Orlando or Tampa in news content.

Most "news" content is local.....as it should be.

If there is a "negative" story about The Villages, you will not read it.

Editorial content will always be 100% bias to one side. Along with presentation of national and international news.

SO, when folks call it bias......yeah it is....the owner and developer are one in the same. The mission is to BE BIAS .

It was never intended to give you unbiased news coverage.

I have asked why people say it is bias, with no luck.

You need to accept it for what it is.
Disagree - acceptance is the choice of the individual.

[Bucco]

Disagree - acceptance is the choice of the individual.

WHAT ?

I am simply saying that you cannot apply the same criteria to a local house organ as you do to a national news media company.

The Daily Sun cannot, in any way, be compared to another newspaper. Not a criticism....simply a fact of life. They are a local voice totally and completely controlled by one family, operationally, financially, and editorially. To say they are bias is a waste of words......they will admit that and have. Their goal is NOT to inform you completely, in fact it has not been that many years that they even gave much in the way of news outside our gates. They do not purport to be anything that what they are. If you are relying on the Daily Sun to keep you informed, you will be very disappointed.

None of this is a criticism.....I read it every day and have for over 20 years. I assure you that they will not report anything that goes against what the owner believes, either locally or nationally. I assure you that they will use their "power" to pursuade you to their way of thinking.

Why folks cannot understand their mission is not to deliver you the news of the world. They will just leave out what does not fit their narrative.

Again, that is not criticism and those who think this is not the case are very mistaken.

[Bogie Shooter]

Try the online "villages news" dot com

If you like crime stories.

[Bogie Shooter]

Thank you guys for giving me such a laugh. Of course this paper is biased and slanted towards all the good of The villages. After reading the first page you want anybody realize that? People move to The villages not to get there fabulous well researched unbiased newspaper. They obviously move here for the wonderful restaurants the fantastic friendly neighbors who never talk about the gnomes on the lawns and the very inexpensive HOA fees. Everybody loves the fact that in the winter the restaurants are never crowded, in the summer we have wonderful customer service with everybody wearing masks.. you should look as the newspaper as another amenity, has somebody noted above it gives great coupons and comics and crossword puzzles all the rest as an Air Force pilot under attack would say is chaff. . I haven't found the news outlet whether it's TV radio or print that is not slanted one way or the other mostly to the other way when we first moved out here into Leesburg I was astounded to know that 55.8% of the population leaned exactly the same way I did from the town I moved from. I didn't worry about whether I would ever get the news again the way I read it as it was a thing called my brain which selected what I wanted to see read and understand. When you do read The villages newspaper you have a choice of believing anything they say although I will say that their writers of opinion and fact could have been the best advertising people on Madison avenue for slanting things the way they want you to tell about a 25% tax increase suddenly becomes needed and normal and nothing is going to change the fact that Sumter residents were taken for 50 million last year and will be taking for 50 million this year probably extra from the years before. All you have to do is Google the budgets and the taxes for Sumter and compare them to local counties near you. You can use your own brain to figure out whether or not your politicians are being efficient with your tax dollars, it does not matter who pays their salaries

No HOA In TV.
Maybe somewhere in leesburg ?

[propjob]

Exactly what I was going to suggest.
Gives all the dirt that is going on in The Villages that the Sun won't print.
Such as accidents, arrests, drug busts, DUI's etc.

I will 2nd thevillagesnews.com. Some of the articles are a real hoot to read. You can get a condensed version for free but will only get a handful of articles. For $25/yr, you get the unabridged expanded poop. Reading the comments that some people submit can be a real gut splitter. Enjoy!! :MOJE_whot:

[jimjamuser]

My comment wasn't addressed to you but to STU but gee willickers I sure do have a sub so that makes my opinion worth exactly the same as you paid for your opinion. ;) I have had a sub since we moved in 3 1/2 years ago. I remember getting it at our first Market Night at LSL despite the fact the salesperson at the stand wouldn't even give me a "free" copy of the paper from her pile even after I gave her my $80something check for a full year. My wife likes the supermarket coupons and I like the funnies on Sunday. I figure I often waste more than the $84/yr I pay for it on other things and it adds solid weight to my trash bag so it doesn't blow down the street during a T-storm. Even if I did NOT have a sub I could still buy 'em for fitty cents in dozens of machines throughout The Villages on a "need to read" basis and form my opinion for just a couple bucks a month. Didn't know a sub was a requirement to form an opinion. :ohdear:
I agree and find that I end up usually only reading the comics or the TV critic at the back of the Lifestyle section.

[drbales]

Not only biased but they now censor the comics when it suits them. example Mallard Fillmore.

[JoMar]

Try the online "villages news" dot com

Also biased with a tabloid approach.

[newgirl]

Sadly no, not a unbias politicised one .

[Stu from NYC]

All newspaper have a political bias on their editorial pages. All newspapers have a political bias on their editorial pages. Tampa Bay, Miami, Orlando all have an opposite view on their editorial pages from The Daily Sun, that agrees with two out of every three people who live here. They agree with the political opinions on the editorial pages.

Where is this editorial page on the Sun? How have I missed it for over a year now?

[Advogado]

Every issue of the Daily Sun starts out with a lie. In the banner at the top of page 1, it describes itself as a "NEWSPAPER".

[Aloha1]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

Not around here. Orlando Sentinel thinks opinion passes for news. Same with Tampa Bay Times. Daily Sun is good for local articles about what's going on but very little National news.

Best advice, do your own homework and find sources you can trust. None are unbiased but together in review you might find a nugget of truth.

[Aloha1]

Orlando Sentinel

Not a chance. Extremely opinionated and biased.

[Bucco]

Where is this editorial page on the Sun? How have I missed it for over a year now?

Try the section entitled, and I checked the paper is being used elsewhere, but I "think" it may be called "out and about" or something close. A series of far right folks write them. Haven't seen Malkin in a while, and maybe she is gone, but typical of the writers.

How you missed it..? Well, you express your knowledge about tge paper (among a lot of other things), don't know how you missed it.

I don't think posters on here even understand the difference between editorials and news...I know the are completely lost in understanding journalistic standards and procedures.

[sipops]

Have you spoken to my favorite wife about me keeping my opinions?

Stu you know what they say in N.Y. about opinions.

[Stu from NYC]

Try the section entitled, and I checked the paper is being used elsewhere, but I "think" it may be called "out and about" or something close. A series of far right folks write them. Haven't seen Malkin in a while, and maybe she is gone, but typical of the writers.

How you missed it..? Well, you express your knowledge about tge paper (among a lot of other things), don't know how you missed it.

I don't think posters on here even understand the difference between editorials and news...I know the are completely lost in understanding journalistic standards and procedures.

Those are the columnists they publish several times a week and find the articles interesting but would not call that an editorial page by any stretch of the imagination.

[Advogado]

While, because they are staffed by human beings, probably every media outlet is somewhat biased. However, the Daily Sun takes bias to a whole new level.

You notice, e.g., that the Daily Sun has no editorial page, preferring instead to editorialize (and distort) in its regular local-news articles. Also, most media outlets are generally biased for policy reasons. The Daily Sun is biased for economic reasons-- to further the financial interests of its owner.

For example, did you read the "articles" by the Developer's Minister of Propaganda, David R. Corder, regarding impact fees and the corresponding rollback of our 25% property tax hike? Not only were they blatantly one-sided in favor of the Developer's current sweetheart impact fees, they played very loose with the truth.

I will say, in defense of the Daily Sun, that it is much more objective in covering international and national news than it was a few years ago, when it wouldn't publish anything favorable to Obama or unfavorable to Trump or the Republicans. Perhaps as a result of criticism, that kind of blatant censorship seems to be history.

BUT you will not find coverage, or at least objective coverage, of ANY local news reflecting badly on the Developer, The Villages, or the little group of insiders who still control (despite the election of Estep, Miller, and Search) the local Republican Party. For example, what have you read about the Angeliadis fishing expedition, which is being financed by a deep-pocketed client who refuses to be identified? George Angeliadis Open Records Request - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N7mNEwvBYk)

[Incoblack1]

The difference is that the editorial opinions in an unbiased newspaper are confined to the editorial or commentary pages. The Daily Sun uses its front page!

[Pairadocs]

Daily Sun gives new meaning to being biased.

You can say that again, and again, and again. Think we all found that scary and dangerous when everyone was turning to "our" paper for virus cases, deaths, hospitalizations... Crickets... Crickets... What if the water became contaminated...how would that appear to protect the citizens. Just a guess, but probably no real unbiased investigative journalist on the whole staff....not good when this exists.

[Pairadocs]

QUOTE=Advogado;1924732]Every issue of the Daily Sun starts out with a lie. In the banner at the top of page 1, it describes itself as a "NEWSPAPER".[/QUOTE]

It's actually an advertising gimmick to be sent out everywhere, mailed, even out of the country ...disguising as a newspaper, and hey, technically it is on paper and has news.. Like new businesses opening, New villages being built....

[Pairadocs]

Not around here. Orlando Sentinel thinks opinion passes for news. Same with Tampa Bay Times. Daily Sun is good for local articles about what's going on but very little National news.

Best advice, do your own homework and find sources you can trust. None are unbiased but together in review you might find a nugget of truth.

Agree completely..and now on line research getting very difficult... ������

[graciegirl]

QUOTE=Advogado;1924732]Every issue of the Daily Sun starts out with a lie. In the banner at the top of page 1, it describes itself as a "NEWSPAPER".



It represents the attitude, the views, the opinions and interests of two thirds of the population. It is purchased and it is a choice. Most people who live here like it, and like and admire the developers. There is no need to have signs on the highways about The Villages or television advertising. People are lined up to buy here. It attracts people who have been careful with their money, have saved and sacrificed to live here and are very aware of the views of the community. It is exactly what it is. Most of us like the whole schmear, and enjoy seeing the success of a good capitalist endeavor. We know when we buy here, it is a CDD, and that for some is a benevolent dictatorship and for others is a restraint to what they feel is democracy. It works. Works better than Orlando or Miami or Jacksonville or Tampa. I like the way The Villages is run. No one forced me to move here where I knew that most people's views were not like those of college kids, or college professors.

[M2inOR]

The biggest problem with that "newspaper" is that there is no "news", especially local news. There is really no good source for local news in the area.

Not saying good or bad, but:

Ocala Star-Banner
Leesburg Daily Commercial
Sumter County Times
Orlando Sentinel
Wall Street Journal
New York Times

All have websites, as well as full digital versions of the paper as printed. Some even have delivery in The Villages.

No single paper has all the news of interest locally, statewide, national, or international.

Only the reader can determine what will satisfy the need.

There aren't enough hours in the day to get ALL the news of interest.

Thankfully, there is the internet which can bring much of the news closer to the potential reader.

And some online news sources can customize what is delivered to you every day.

Finally, gathering and printing/publishing the news costs money. Consider actually subscribing. I subscribe to several for online reading. Daily, weekly and monthly publications that have digital versions available.

Do I read them all faithfully every day? Not a chance! But I do have them available when I'm interested in a particular subject.

Finally, I do have an actual yearly subscription to The Villages Daily Sun. I do wish there was a complete digital version available for online reading. Even discussed the topic with the current editors and managers. For now, there is no plan to publish the complete paper online, though it is a popular request.

PS no news source is completely unbiased. There are choices made everyday as to what appears. Even the words used to headline or tell the story give a particular viewpoint of the writer, the editor, and the publisher.

[PennBF]

I was trying to stay out of this fray BUT twice now there has been a reference to 2/3rd's of the residents supporting the paper, etc etc. This is the kind of statistical misbehavior that leads to on going propaganda. The question is when was the survey taken, who and how was it controlled, where is the supporting data base that can be reviewed, etc. It is not only misleading to assert a statistic that has no support behind it but to do so with unfounded authority.:ohdear:

[billethkid]

The thread is not so slowly headed toward making a banquet out of a ham sandwich!
:popcorn:

[Bucco]

Those are the columnists they publish several times a week and find the articles interesting but would not call that an editorial page by any stretch of the imagination.

Well, they are editorials (a newspaper article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a topical issue.) written by known syndicated columnists. Not sure what you believe an editorial actually is.

[Stu from NYC]

Well, they are editorials (a newspaper article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a topical issue.) written by known syndicated columnists. Not sure what you believe an editorial actually is.

From my NY days faithfully reading the NY Times would call it an op ed piece.

To me an editorial is written by an employee of the paper giving the opinion of the newspaper.

[Bucco]

From my NY days faithfully reading the NY Times would call it an op ed piece.

To me an editorial is written by an employee of the paper giving the opinion of the newspaper.

As a faithful daily reader of the Times, I can only say....this "ain't" New York"


Again, while folks simply ignore this fact...

Daily Sun is a house organ. It has a goal of assisting in house sales. It is not, nor never was intended to "compete" with "real" newspapers.

It reflects the developer and his likes and dislikes. If a story is carried on the wire, that he doesn't like or doesn't want you to se...you won't. The developer is a political activist....if it is newsworthy but not in his interest, you will not see it.

This is not a criticism, but making comparisons of the Daily Sun to any other publication begun to distribute news is fool hardy.

The Daily Sun is what it is.....you will never ever see equality in the coverage. News is defined as what serves the developer.

Again, not criticizing the paper because it does not pretend to be a competitor of other papers. It has a captive amount of subscribers. The "editorial" content is purchased, i.e. Subscribed to, along with the right wing cartoons. All will fit the developers desired message.

PS...I read it each morning, but do not expect even a modicum of actual news.

[Dilligas]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers
Unfortunately, when it comes to mass media or social media, every production is biased. The days of reporting the news (and not their opinion) has been replaced with "what sells" and "political correctness". The closest thing to non biased news is on DirectTV channel 15 at 6 PM, an american new report out of Paris, France.....non opinionated and non biased.

[Dilligas]

The difference is that the editorial opinions in an unbiased newspaper are confined to the editorial or commentary pages. The Daily Sun uses its front page!
Please name one unbiased newspaper or network

[Bucco]

Please name one unbiased newspaper or network

EDITORIALLY or NEWS CONTENT ?

[npwalters]

As a faithful daily reader of the Times, I can only say....this "ain't" New York"


Again, while folks simply ignore this fact...

Daily Sun is a house organ. It has a goal of assisting in house sales. It is not, nor never was intended to "compete" with "real" newspapers.

It reflects the developer and his likes and dislikes. If a story is carried on the wire, that he doesn't like or doesn't want you to se...you won't. The developer is a political activist....if it is newsworthy but not in his interest, you will not see it.

This is not a criticism, but making comparisons of the Daily Sun to any other publication begun to distribute news is fool hardy.

The Daily Sun is what it is.....you will never ever see equality in the coverage. News is defined as what serves the developer.

Again, not criticizing the paper because it does not pretend to be a competitor of other papers. It has a captive amount of subscribers. The "editorial" content is purchased, i.e. Subscribed to, along with the right wing cartoons. All will fit the developers desired message.

PS...I read it each morning, but do not expect even a modicum of actual news.

You are exactly right in your opinions. I often scoff at the online version.

[Aloha1]

As a faithful daily reader of the Times, I can only say....this "ain't" New York"


Again, while folks simply ignore this fact...

Daily Sun is a house organ. It has a goal of assisting in house sales. It is not, nor never was intended to "compete" with "real" newspapers.

It reflects the developer and his likes and dislikes. If a story is carried on the wire, that he doesn't like or doesn't want you to se...you won't. The developer is a political activist....if it is newsworthy but not in his interest, you will not see it.

This is not a criticism, but making comparisons of the Daily Sun to any other publication begun to distribute news is fool hardy.

The Daily Sun is what it is.....you will never ever see equality in the coverage. News is defined as what serves the developer.

Again, not criticizing the paper because it does not pretend to be a competitor of other papers. It has a captive amount of subscribers. The "editorial" content is purchased, i.e. Subscribed to, along with the right wing cartoons. All will fit the developers desired message.

PS...I read it each morning, but do not expect even a modicum of actual news.

Exactly how I view view the NYT.

[Stu from NYC]

Exactly how I view view the NYT.

Sad but very true

[Bucco]

Sad but very true

Since you appear to be "down" on every news source, may I ask how you keep well informed ?

And if you respond and have time, tell me what you dislike about the Times...please don't say it liberal because that is trite, overused and not factual...I am speaking of news coverage.

[Bilyclub]

Exactly how I view view the NYT.

Well they did help pay for that crappy movie set in TV.

[PennBF]

Waiting for the background of a survey that proved 2/3rd of Residents support the Sun? I
have a concern when "fake news" or "fake Statistics" are used to mislead. It just leads to
more intellectual dishonesty and that is the last thing we need in todays world. If it's true
show the facts and I will be the first one to support the assertion. If it is false say so. :ohdear:

[Bucco]

You are exactly right in your opinions. I often scoff at the online version.

Yeah, I often wonder why they never moved forward on that, but it simply points out what I have been saying.

Selling houses has always been the thrust of that publication.....of course, the ads help the economy also.

I suppose selling homes works better with print media.

That’s why I do not get folks wasting their time complaining on here about bias. I am watching baseball right now, and just thinking that complains about bias in the Daily Sun is like complains about all the ads for Rays para in the scorebook you just bought. They don’t care....their business is baseball. Daily Sun does not care their business is whatever purpose the developer wants it to be. It isn’t going to eat into subscriptions.

[Stu from NYC]

Since you appear to be "down" on every news source, may I ask how you keep well informed ?

And if you respond and have time, tell me what you dislike about the Times...please don't say it liberal because that is trite, overused and not factual...I am speaking of news coverage.

They have a very specific slant that deeply offends me but do not feel comfortable discussing it here.

If someday we ever meet would be happy to tell you.

I do disagree with their political philosophy but they are entitled to that.

In general I am offended by journalists writing news article that do more than report the news. Editorials do belong on the editorial page.

[GoPacers]

The media is biased? Wow, never heard that before..

[tophcfa]

Daily Sun Biased? Talk about stating the obvious.

[60North]

Is there another opinion that’s not biased like the daily sun about the Villages that we would get an honest answers

Just ask Me! I will tell you the truth. I may tell you “In my opinion.....”, or I may say “ I don’t know”, which for most of us - on most topics - is The Truth”

[Two Bills]

"You should have asked my husband." Pam Ayres.

Pam Ayres - They Should Have Asked My Husband - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1E--GqfJek)

[graciegirl]

Daily Sun Biased? Talk about stating the obvious.

I LIKE the Daily Sun.

I read the Washington Post and the New York Times and do not always agree with their editorial opinions.

I Like The Villages.

We have lived here now a total of fifteen years and it is well run, lovely, clean, no drama from The developers who we admire as a constantly improving and larger and larger company, employing a lot of people and enabling a lot of other good businesses and the Charter Schools for employees.

I Like getting older here.
It is easier than getting all wrinkled and my back getting crooked and can't hear as well in front of a lot of college students. It is nice to fit in.

Good morning. It is a coolish but BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE VILLAGES.

[PennBF]

I understand some are great and in some cases fanatical supporters of the Developer and to the degree it is "opinions" then it is fine. But words have meaning and when they go beyond the boundaries of opinion and start to express opinions as fact supported by "fake statistics" then it is time to address the issue. I believe if you say it and profess it is true by using fake facts then you should be held accountable. :ho:

[graciegirl]

I understand some are great and in some cases fanatical supporters of the Developer and to the degree it is "opinions" then it is fine. But words have meaning and when they go beyond the boundaries of opinion and start to express opinions as fact supported by "fake statistics" then it is time to address the issue. I believe if you say it and profess it is true by using fake facts then you should be held accountable. :ho:

Mr. Penn. I was referring to the site, public record, that tells how folks vote. There is one for Sumter County. Updated every day. I was referring to my social interactions with people here over the last fifteen years and their inferences or downright open comments. I was referring to things that can easily be referenced and from that opinions drawn as to a certain "climate" here, or say on a college campus. Ours here is usually opposite from that on a college campus, may be due to age or other factors. That is all I can say. I do not want to get into trouble with our moderators. I try VERY hard to state my opinions based on recognizable valid sources. Happy Easter, Mr. Penn. Our family had an unexpected turn of events and a hospitalization where all has gone well. We are all so grateful for good things today.

[PennBF]

As I understand the rules it is not allowed to direct comments towards another user so
I will make sure I meet the spirit of the rule. My concern continues to be with stating a
statistical conclusion without the basic facts to support a Statistical Analysis. It use to
be this was kind of an annoyance however it has allegedly become a pervasive way of
passing on fake news and it has gone beyond the boundaries of truth. We wish all a
wonderful Easter! :popcorn:

[Bucco]

As I understand the rules it is not allowed to direct comments towards another user so
I will make sure I meet the spirit of the rule. My concern continues to be with stating a
statistical conclusion without the basic facts to support a Statistical Analysis. It use to
be this was kind of an annoyance however it has allegedly become a pervasive way of
passing on fake news and it has gone beyond the boundaries of truth. We wish all a
wonderful Easter! :popcorn:

If I were told I was.....whatever....and that is based on me living in a community that.....and then citing voting records.

I would be highly insulted