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jayerose
04-11-2021, 05:37 PM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
JMintzer
04-11-2021, 05:44 PM
Yes, you can put that in your will...
dewilson58
04-11-2021, 05:45 PM
Yes, you can put that in your will...
agree
Debfrommaine
04-11-2021, 05:45 PM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
My dad did this same thing via a trust. He also stated she can use his money for repairs, property taxes, etc. related to the home. Good for her bad for the kids!
retiredguy123
04-11-2021, 06:00 PM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
It's called a life estate. You can set it up in the deed or in your will. It gives your husband the right to live in the house for his lifetime, and then your daughter inherits the house.
Stu from NYC
04-11-2021, 06:01 PM
Make sure you have that put in by a qualified attorney
OrangeBlossomBaby
04-11-2021, 06:52 PM
It's called a life estate. You can set it up in the deed or in your will. It gives your husband the right to live in the house for his lifetime, and then your daughter inherits the house.
If he doesn't want to live in that house for the rest of his life...how is that handled?
retiredguy123
04-11-2021, 07:23 PM
If he doesn't want to live in that house for the rest of his life...how is that handled?
Typically, the life estate tenant must maintain the property and pay taxes and other expenses while he is alive, but he doesn't need to live in the property. Although, he can forfeit the life tenancy and allow the property to be sold, but the "remainderman" (the daughter) would receive the proceeds from the sale, if they agree to do that. If the life estate is established in a will, other modifications can be specified.
Northwoods
04-11-2021, 08:19 PM
If he doesn't want to live in that house for the rest of his life...how is that handled?
My will (a trust) states that if my spouse sells the house, my estate/ trust gets half of the sale of the house.
retiredguy123
04-11-2021, 09:51 PM
My will (a trust) states that if my spouse sells the house, my estate/ trust gets half of the sale of the house.
If the spouse can sell the house, that would not be a typical life estate with a remainderman. It would be a completely different beneficiary arrangement.
Art cov
04-11-2021, 10:50 PM
I had a friend who past. He set up that his wife could stay for life unless she remarried and his son of course gets the house when she passes. She takes care of the regular bills and son does upkeep. Enough was left to wife and son for neither to worry. She also had another home from previous husband’s death which she sold. 2 husbands past in a few years. Nobody has yet wanted to marry the 65 year old woman.
JudyLife
04-12-2021, 04:45 AM
Yes you can put it in your Will. It’s called having a ‘Life Interest’ in the house. My husband & I have the same as we are both 2nd marriages with children/grandkids.
J1ceasar
04-12-2021, 05:00 AM
As many have pointed out above hopefully your daughter and husband have a good relationship. Also it would not be bad if your daughter has money already. Have you discussed this with your husband? He may decide he does not want to live there because of the memories then what will he do? There are many ways to arrange trusts to providing incomes for people. Best advice is to spend a few dollars and talk to a lawyer before you decide what you want to do.
GOLFER54
04-12-2021, 05:19 AM
Set up a TRUST....
ANDREW CURTIS
352-315-0333
3261
US Hwy 441
Unit D2
Fruitland Park FL 34731
mlmarr1
04-12-2021, 05:23 AM
Set up a Trust.. I did covers all bases..
Northerner52
04-12-2021, 05:23 AM
Please talk with an attorney. Many things to consider. For example. Can he have another woman live with him etc.
Veracity
04-12-2021, 05:30 AM
What would happen if the house was totally destroyed by a sinkhole, lightning, fire, flood, etc.? Who would get the insurance money to rebuild or buy a new house? Could your husband be left homeless?
airdale2
04-12-2021, 05:31 AM
Transfer on Death, Or TOD, it can then be transferred upon the death after U both have passed without taxes.
rustyp
04-12-2021, 05:31 AM
Please talk with an attorney. Many things to consider. For example. Can he have another woman live with him etc.
Can she use your golf clubs ?
Susan1234
04-12-2021, 05:32 AM
In Florida you should have a trust.
janetgolf2win
04-12-2021, 05:50 AM
Set up a Trust and put the house in the Trust. This is the best way to do it there then it doesn’t go through probate.
Annarachel
04-12-2021, 06:04 AM
I thought if your Married your spouse is 50% owner is this not true in
Florida.
spinner1001
04-12-2021, 06:14 AM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
This situation is relatively common in Florida. I suggest you get a lawyer experienced in trusts and estates to help you. What you describe is straightforward for an experienced attorney and I believe will be done by a lawyer through a trust.
If not done properly and you pass before your husband, litigation between your daughter and husband might result and what you intend may not turn out even if you believe otherwise. Fights between families in multiple marriages after passing are also common in Florida.
kidnerkim
04-12-2021, 06:22 AM
Depends on attorney/trustee. They can approve /disapprove Expenses submitted to the trust.
Jerry Leinsing
04-12-2021, 06:33 AM
Don’t listen to any advice here accept CALL ANDREW CURTIS and get a new trust made that is Florida legal. A lawyer will usually try to talk you out of a trust because once they make make one for you, you may not need them again. A will is so complicated compared to a trust and makes probate a serious time consumer especially where money is concerned. Dealt with two deaths in last five years. Probate on the will of one was a lawyer and court drawn out affair. The other had a will and trust (in NH) and that the probate was easy because all the dealings and distribution was through the trust. Get to Andrew! The trusts are not expensive.
Girlcopper
04-12-2021, 06:47 AM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
Just put it in a trust with specifications. Any legit lawyer can set it up for you. Very simple
JoelJohnson
04-12-2021, 06:49 AM
Be aware that a will does not have to be filed. If the participants agree that there is no need to file, they just don't file it.
rlcooper70
04-12-2021, 06:56 AM
Be careful .... be sure to avoid saddling your daughter with the expenses of maintaining or improving the house at the will of your second husband ... and be sure to include her in the discussion.
Also ... getting a Florida attorney will give you the chance to have further discussions on any unknown or unanticipated issues.
Eg_cruz
04-12-2021, 06:56 AM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
Put the house in a trust. Go see Eric Millhorn or Jennifer Henson 753-9333
Eg_cruz
04-12-2021, 06:59 AM
Yes, you can put that in your will...
A will can be contested or simply not followed ......go with a trust
Mmhrdh0529
04-12-2021, 07:02 AM
Yes, a friend of mine had this happen to her. Her mom passed relatively young 55-60 and the problem was her step dad didn’t have the money or chose not to keep the home repairs up. Since he lived in the house for a long time it was a problem. I don’t know if you can set up a fund to see that the house is properly maintained or a clause in the trust?
RICH1
04-12-2021, 07:05 AM
Get an Attorney.. The best trusts, wills, and Estates have been contested ... The worst comes out when people pass! The nicest person gets ugly when it comes to money
b0bd0herty
04-12-2021, 07:06 AM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
You don't trust your husband to leave it to your daughter if you pass first? If you do, put it in his will also.
DaleDivine
04-12-2021, 07:17 AM
Can she use your golf clubs ?
Nope, she's left handed.
:ohdear::ohdear:
maryvan@comcast.net
04-12-2021, 07:24 AM
Google enhanced life estate deed.
jimkerr
04-12-2021, 07:28 AM
A lot of the advice here appears to be on point, however, I’m not an attorney and for something like this, you should only consult an attorney.
jbrown132
04-12-2021, 07:37 AM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
When I was a kid my mother had the same issue. Several years before she passed she put the house in my and my brothers names, but with life tenancy for my stepfather. He was a good guy and this caused no problems within our family as everything was done up front and in the open. There were no surprises.
Jayhawk
04-12-2021, 07:41 AM
She also had another home from previous husband’s death which she sold. 2 husbands past in a few years. Nobody has yet wanted to marry the 65 year old woman.
I think I saw this on Dateline.
:a040:
msilagy
04-12-2021, 07:44 AM
DO NOT do a life estate deed. That means that if your husband wants to move out he still owns the house. It would NOT go to your daughter till after he dies. If he would become sick and moved into a nursing home the house could not go to your daughter to sell. Who would pay all the bills till he died. Bad advice......those were not your wishes as stated by you.
Carla B
04-12-2021, 08:07 AM
I thought if your Married your spouse is 50% owner is this not true in
Florida.
I don't know what's true in Florida because it is not a community property state, where assets acquired jointly during the marriage (Texas, for example) are owned by both parties. Each state can set up its own rules. In Texas, one party may be gifted property as his or her "separate" property.
DAVES
04-12-2021, 08:18 AM
I want to leave the house to my daughter but would like my husband, if I pass before him, to have the choice to stay in the house until he moves or passes away.
Yes, I can google it but just wanted to post first...it is not a will I would state this, is it?
thank you all.
You should discuss with an attorney. Things can get problematic with a second marriage, kids etc. It is likely you have other property besides the house. Who gets the painting that all hate or love? The dog? Etc.
When, my mom passed, my sister and I were at war over other issues. My parents did not have much. Each item was listed as to who gets what. It could have been ugly. It was not due to whoever wrote the will or how they had it done.
My mom left each of us half of her IRA as an inherited IRA. I think the law has changed.
I think the forced distribution is figured on a shorter time frame. It is a minor inconvenience to take it every year. I could opt to take it all out and pay the tax on it.
For me it is a gift that keeps on giving long after passing.
harleyfarmer
04-12-2021, 08:30 AM
have seen this in the past. causes a lot of problems. Children obviously want the unrelated spouse out quick and always demand things aren't kept up as they should be. If you love the person enough to marry them then leave them the house. the heck with the kids. that's what I did
virtue51
04-12-2021, 09:12 AM
You need to consult with an estate attorney. This is your best option .
zendog3
04-12-2021, 09:54 AM
A bit more complicated than you may think. My wife has more money than I and she wants her estate to go to her children after we both die. But we both want me to live the life I now live if she passes first. Our agreement is: If she dies first I can live in the house. If I am lonely here and want to move to be near my children, I can sell the house and buy where I chose, but after I die, that house sells and the proceeds go to her children. Same if I am forced to go into long-term care. I can sell the house and use the proceeds to pay for care until I die, then the remainder of the estate goes to her children.
Think of it this way: For me, the house is the place I live for the rest of my life. The place I live may be someplace other than TV. For her children, the house is a non-cash part of their estate that they will probably liquidate after we are both dead.
Few people want to leave their spouse poor while their children have plenty, nor do they want to force their spouse to live in a house that does not fit. For example, if my wife dies first, I may very well want to sell our big house and move into a smaller villa home.
Chances are small that both my wife and I will die at the same time, but we both want part of our estate to secure a good life for our spouse before the remainder of the estate passes to our children. It is a little tricky to do that, but your lawyer can make it happen. Don't leave it up to an oral agreement. When we get old, we may become demented and vulnerable to people who do not care for our younger agreements. A clearly written will can prevent a lot of family squabbles after death.
stebooo
04-12-2021, 10:27 AM
This is the answer. Occupant must maintain facility and cover all expenses.
Spsmith444
04-12-2021, 10:32 AM
Does your husband have children? Might he re-marriage? That is a slippery slope. Went through this once and it was a mess. I would give him 120 days to move if you were to pass before him. Sorry for being negative but sh$$ happens in situations just like yours.
Debfrommaine
04-12-2021, 10:47 AM
Yes, a friend of mine had this happen to her. Her mom passed relatively young 55-60 and the problem was her step dad didn’t have the money or chose not to keep the home repairs up. Since he lived in the house for a long time it was a problem. I don’t know if you can set up a fund to see that the house is properly maintained or a clause in the trust?
To my same point previous thread, new wife gets access to the money to keep up the home any way she wishes. Good for her, sad for the kids. When we asked my dad about the arrangement his reply was "it's just easier"....he did not do well with conflict.
tvbound
04-12-2021, 11:49 AM
Inheritances, particularly when 'step-relatives' are involved, are notorious for bringing out the greed in people. It should be up to the deceased parent to decide how he/she wants their surviving spouse to be taken care of, not any potential inheritors (re: children) trying to maximize their portion of their late parents estate. Establish a trust and don't depend on just a will.
Sudokukid
04-12-2021, 12:41 PM
Creating a revocable trust and putting your assets into it will solve your problem and save your heir(s) the grief of dealing with FL probate, which can take 2 years or more before your estate is settled. You can make your daughter a co-trustee with you during your life and the sustaining trustee upon your death. You can stipulate in the trust that your husband has use of your assets, but not control over them, upon your death leaving the administration of your estate in the hands of your daughter. You should get advice and assistance from a qualified law firm specializing in Elder Law Planning.
Dot Rheinhardt
04-12-2021, 01:32 PM
You can do a life estate. Your attorney can set it up.
manaboutown
04-12-2021, 06:41 PM
Each situation is different. Obviously legal instruments such as trusts and wills can be used. A home can also be re-deeded to one's children subject to a surviving spouse's life estate. The relationships among and characters of the various parties, their financial and marital states and other factors come into play. It is best to use an estate attorney with experience in this type of conundrum as it can be nettlesome.
NAB20
04-13-2021, 01:15 PM
You don't trust your husband to leave it to your daughter if you pass first? If you do, put it in his will also.
He can easily change his will at any time after the OP passes.
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