Culvers- No Help

[RICH1]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

[schwarz]

Too many folks receiving too much unemployment insurance... would lose money taking a job

[Tom52]

McDonalds in Colony was drive thru only last week when we stopped by. No reason they should be closed to indoor service. Long line at drive thru, no thanks.

[juneroses]

Yes, the line looks long, but it moves along relatively quickly, and you still get the same freshly made food. The workers are handling the crush with positive attitudes. Closing the dining room means the personnel present can concentrate on food prep and delivery rather than dining room sanitization and clean up.

[Stu from NYC]

Too many folks receiving too much unemployment insurance... would lose money taking a job

Sad but unfortunately very true

[Lovetocamp2]

It’s happening all over the country. Free money from the taxpayers makes being jobless more lucrative. Businesses shouldn’t have to compete with government. I’m not saying this as a political statement because I’ve criticized all the handouts.

[SIRE1]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

Your final comment that it will be along time before you return to Culver's concerns me. I'm not sure if you think closing the dining area is Culver's fault, and therefore won't go back, or if you aren't mad at them but just don't want to wait in line for the drive thru. I want to remind everyone that this situation is not Culver's fault. They just can't get enough employees who want to work. In fact, a few weeks ago, someone posted on this forum that they had heard a similar comment at Carrabba's. It may take awhile for both the unemployment payments to stop or for people to feel safe and comfortable going back to work. Especially if they have to wear a mask their entire shift.

[Debfrommaine]

Sad but unfortunately very true

Agree.

[bobdeb]

Can you say "stimulus".

Short staff all up the east coast. Get used to it. Free money. Why work?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Culver's ALWAYS has lines going around the building during the typical dinner rush. They had those lines even when the dining room was open, before the pandemic shut-downs. I'm guessing that they are -currently- short-staffed, because of normal mundane issues. One person is out on maternity leave, another is sick, another got a better job somewhere else, and another moved and no longer lives close enough to keep working there, and it all happened in the same week.

Meanwhile, minimum wage will be going up to $10/hour in September. It's very likely that some people are choosing to -not- work for $8.65/hour, for the next few months.

And yes I'm sure there are at least a few people who are taking advantage of the unemployment funding boost. However - if they are caught lying about being available, actively seeking, and able to return to work, they not only get cut off, they risk having to pay back ALL the money that was given to them from the first day of their claim.

In addition, the money is only available until the expiration date. It's not likely they'll get another extension on the extra.

[Nucky]

MAYBE, just MAYBE some of the staff had to be quarantined. They are sort of young and probably haven't been Vaccinated yet.

The drive-thru is usually pretty fast. They are worth the wait in my opinion.

The entire area is experiencing a shortage of workers. Let's see if we get our lawn cut this season in the timeframe we're accustomed to.

[bobdeb]

Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how.

I know this first hand up north in northern NE. Folks have been verbal about making more staying home than working. It causes shortages in staff and repercussions in services.

I'm not making this up. I know. Seasonal folks are laid off not fired. They collect. No need to go back to work.

Free money! Woo Whoo!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I know this first hand up north in northern NE. Folks have been verbal about making more staying home than working. It causes shortages in staff and repercussions in services.

I'm not making this up. I know. Seasonal folks are laid off not fired. They collect. No need to go back to work.

Free money! Woo Whoo!

Culvers employees are not seasonal employees. This is a thread about Culver's. They are not laid off for a season.

In fact, MOST people who work for a living, are NOT seasonal employees. MOST people who work for a living, do so all year round. And there are actual laws with regards to how ANYONE is allowed to collect unemployment compensation. It is regulated state-wide rather than federally. You know, that minimal government the conservative types love so much. Whether they are eligible or not for their state's unemployment compensation program is dependent on their state's criteria.

If you feel Florida's unemployment compensation is given out too generously, then take it up with the Florida government. They're the ones who make the rules around here.

[retiredguy123]

Enforcement of the unemployment rule to be actively seeking work is virtually non-existent, and has been for more than 50 years. It's a joke. I remember, back in the 1960's, seasonal workers collected unemployment for six months every year even though it was technically illegal. And, the Government changed the rule about needing to be laid off to collect unemployment payments during COVID. You could quit your job and still collect unemployment. Also, whenever the Federal Government adds to or extends the normal state benefits, enforcement becomes even more lax. The states are reluctant to deny people Federal money.

[Decadeofdave]

Enforcement of the unemployment rule to be actively seeking work is virtually non-existent, and has been for more than 50 years. It's a joke. I remember, back in the 1960's, seasonal workers collected unemployment for six months every year even though it was technically illegal. And, the Government changed the rule about needing to be laid off to collect unemployment payments during COVID. You could quit your job and still collect unemployment. Also, whenever the Federal Government adds to or extends the normal state benefits, enforcement becomes even more lax. The states are reluctant to deny people Federal money.
110% correct! I dealt with this for 30 years, unemployment will side with the worker in a legitimate firing. Now you can stay on unemployment if you feel unsafe at your workplace.

[Viperguy]

Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Culver's ALWAYS has lines going around the building during the typical dinner rush. They had those lines even when the dining room was open, before the pandemic shut-downs. I'm guessing that they are -currently- short-staffed, because of normal mundane issues. One person is out on maternity leave, another is sick, another got a better job somewhere else, and another moved and no longer lives close enough to keep working there, and it all happened in the same week.

Meanwhile, minimum wage will be going up to $10/hour in September. It's very likely that some people are choosing to -not- work for $8.65/hour, for the next few months.

And yes I'm sure there are at least a few people who are taking advantage of the unemployment funding boost. However - if they are caught lying about being available, actively seeking, and able to return to work, they not only get cut off, they risk having to pay back ALL the money that was given to them from the first day of their claim.

In addition, the money is only available until the expiration date. It's not likely they'll get another extension on the extra.

I totally disagree. The problem is all over, not just at Culvers. Currently in Destin, FL and many of the restaurants are down to one shift for precisely that reason. Unemployment insurance. Some folks are sitting at home for more than they could possibly make in the service industry. Fast food is especially hurt. Talked to a manager and every place is suffering.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

They weren't suffering in December, when everything down here was opened up and everyone was enjoying their take-out, curbside pickup, and dine-in service. Stores had enough employees then, and - surprise surprise - there was an unemployment extension and boost then too.

What's different between December and now?

It's a rhetorical question. No need to answer.

[Art cov]

110% correct! I dealt with this for 30 years, unemployment will side with the worker in a legitimate firing. Now you can stay on unemployment if you feel unsafe at your workplace.

True! I noticed how they feel unsafe at the work place but not when partying and such. People are hurting themselves by not working and gaining experience to make more money. Most small businesses are being hurt badly which could very well be the plan. Jobs are plentiful even jobs to start $15-$22 an hour. Some offering signing bonus.

[Chi-Town]

Ruby Tuesday in SS which has had staffing problems was closed today.

[tophcfa]

This is becoming a big problem, help wanted signs are basically at almost every store/restaurant no matter where you go. No one wants to work in the service/retail industry when you can make a similar amount sleeping late and not working. This is not going to end well, many employers are going to go out of business, and then the over generous unemployment benefits will eventually end. Then all the people taking a free ride won't have jobs to go back to. I had an appointment yesterday to get new tires on my truck, when I showed up they could not put on the new tires because they were short on help. All too common and not right.

[Sensei]

Each person who objects to lazy individuals scamming higher wages through unemployment compensation may benefit from researching guidelines.

e.g. How Much Will My Florida Unemployment Benefits Pay?
The weekly payment amount you receive during unemployment will vary from person to person. The only way to be sure of your benefit amount is to submit a claim.

The state determines your weekly benefit payments based on your previous earnings during employment. In 2020, you can receive a maximum of $275 per week for 12 weeks. You are entitled to a maximum benefit amount of $3,300.

[l2ridehd]

They weren't suffering in December, when everything down here was opened up and everyone was enjoying their take-out, curbside pickup, and dine-in service. Stores had enough employees then, and - surprise surprise - there was an unemployment extension and boost then too.

What's different between December and now?

It's a rhetorical question. No need to answer.

There is actually a lot different between December and now. A new stimulus package was passed in January and weekly payments started up again. If you recall the prior stimulus money had expired. So now folks can stay home and get unemployment plus stimulus money. I am retired so not sure if the amount is correct, but was told by 4 different folks they end up with $845 a week by not working. They can't make that much working so why work. And this will continue for 93 weeks from the date the stimulus was passed. Biggest impact is in the food service industry where folks were working for minimum wage and tips. .

[billyb1950]

Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Culver's ALWAYS has lines going around the building during the typical dinner rush. They had those lines even when the dining room was open, before the pandemic shut-downs. I'm guessing that they are -currently- short-staffed, because of normal mundane issues. One person is out on maternity leave, another is sick, another got a better job somewhere else, and another moved and no longer lives close enough to keep working there, and it all happened in the same week.

Meanwhile, minimum wage will be going up to $10/hour in September. It's very likely that some people are choosing to -not- work for $8.65/hour, for the next few months.

And yes I'm sure there are at least a few people who are taking advantage of the unemployment funding boost. However - if they are caught lying about being available, actively seeking, and able to return to work, they not only get cut off, they risk having to pay back ALL the money that was given to them from the first day of their claim.

In addition, the money is only available until the expiration date. It's not likely they'll get another extension on the extra.

Okay, let me take a moment to see the logic in your minimum wage comment: Don't work for $8.65 an hour, and wait until September for $10 per hour. That's $1.35 an hour difference time ZERO for the next four or more months. Conclusion: no logic. It's all about lack of work ethic and the VALUE of work in one's life.

[asianthree]

They weren't suffering in December, when everything down here was opened up and everyone was enjoying their take-out, curbside pickup, and dine-in service. Stores had enough employees then, and - surprise surprise - there was an unemployment extension and boost then too.

What's different between December and now?

It's a rhetorical question. No need to answer.

It’s called losing seasonal people. Starts in April, not a big surprise, it been happening in TV as long as I have been coming in 07.
Two restaurants we frequent lost 1/3 of their staff for just that reason. Healthcare staff here is no different than restaurants, staff leaves to go north, and returning in the fall/winter. Hospitals post The seasonal help all the time. Add those who never returned, because they found employment elsewhere. In today’s climate, Finding reliable staff is going to be a challenge for many months

[md5wl]

I was in the Wendy’s on 441 for lunch yesterday. It was busy inside and most tables were taken. The drive through was moving smoothly at 1:00.
About 1:30 they locked the doors to the restaurant and wouldn’t allow anyone inside. Became drive through only.
They didn’t have enough staff to accommodate people.
The drive through line wrapped around the restaurant.

[fireman]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!
A lot of the places can’t get help. The staff can make more money staying home and drawing unemployment.

[banjobob]

A rash decision if you like the restaurant .

[DIver0258]

Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Many are not returning to work due to stimulus and additional unemployment assistance. There are other benefits many are also receiving such as rent assistance. Not saying your reply is incorrect, many with the assistance they are receiving and not paying child are making more than if they are working. Several of our friends (also small business owners) have had major issues getting people to return to work. The unemployment system is most states is smothered with claims and doesn't have the staff to chase down alleged abusers. Many are stating they don't feel safe returning to work. I'm not sure anyone can blame them. Others will play the system. In the short of it many eateries are short staffed and probably will be for the foreseeable future.

[cafw1]

A rash decision if you like the restaurant .
I was told by an employee that many of the employees have Covid and therefore they have a lot of employees not working and therefore can only keep the drive thru open.

[stan the man]

Sad but unfortunately very true

Oh thank you stu

[Skunky1]

I say suck it up buttercup and get back to work and get off the dole.Too bad you lazy loafers have to wear a mask while working. It is what it is.

[rmd2]

McDonalds in Colony was drive thru only last week when we stopped by. No reason they should be closed to indoor service. Long line at drive thru, no thanks.

A lot of places can't open the inside - Culvers, McDonalds, Wendys, Burger King plus regular businesses are understaffed. People are getting paid by the Federal Government to stay home. They are not going to work. The teachers have already had one full year of pay and have not returned to work. Many of the schools are still closed. There are hiring signs in cities and town all over the US. Thankfully our tax dollars are paying for this and are increasing soon to fund this. /s

[Dantes]

No workers
Florida is a non union state
Wages are so low it’s better to stay on unemployment or welfare
Nursing Homes on the villages only pay 10 dollars an hour unless ur a professional can’t live on that

[Bay Kid]

So sad that the government pays so well. My assistant golf pro said his sister, who is unemployed, makes more money than him from the government. She just lays around everyday, heads to the beach, even took a vacation. Something is definitely wrong in this country.

[writerslife]

You have a bad case of entitlement. And I will assume you're one of the people who believe that food workers don't deserve $15 an hour in pay, right? Go home and make yourself a hamburger and stop complaining.

[tsmall22204]

Possibly covid issues. Dont give up on the. The food is good.

[Dana1963]

So sad that the government pays so well. My assistant golf pro said his sister, who is unemployed, makes more money than him from the government. She just lays around everyday, heads to the beach, even took a vacation. Something is definitely wrong in this country.
Goes to show who’s the smarter sibling not the assistant golf pro!

[toeser]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

Don't take it out on Culvers. There are all kinds of businesses looking for help. With the extra unemployment benefits passed by Congress, tons of people are just sitting at home rather than work.

[stargirl]

The line between unemployment and welfare is blurring. Unemployment office sends a notice to employer “so and so has filed for unemployment”. The employer used to be asked if they were eligible, no longer, that side of the form is now blank! Fast food employees are not seasonal, how many 20 something snowbirds so you know?
As for Culver’s, I’d sit in a line around the building 3 times for a concrete mixer and a Culver’s burger!

[NotGolfer]

We go to Culver's...went through the drive-through a week ago and the parking lot was full with outside dining that way too. Their inside is "socially-distanced" so that area is smaller. I suspect Covid as well as the lack of workers being the factor of what's happening there now. A couple of weeks ago we met friends at one of the country clubs for dinner. We had reservations so got right in. It seemed busy, at least outside, so we opted for inside. Our dining-room wasn't full at all...maybe 3 or 4 tables/booths. BUT our server really was running her tail off and it appeared to me that they might have been short staffed. Even back then I was hearing or reading similar comments as on here about local places---not just fast-food. Many of our workers drive here from surrounding areas for their jobs. Maybe it's the trickle down effect---higher gas, less hours etc. Also reading of food and products prices increasing. Think what's happening in our country (won't make this political) is affecting ALL areas of what we once took so much for granted.

[DAVES]

I know this first hand up north in northern NE. Folks have been verbal about making more staying home than working. It causes shortages in staff and repercussions in services.

I'm not making this up. I know. Seasonal folks are laid off not fired. They collect. No need to go back to work.

Free money! Woo Whoo!


The best one is retired people getting checks because due to covid they can't go to work.

[44Apple]

Re unemployment insurance, the people criticizing stimulus money for Americans are the same ones saying more help should be given to Americans than to foreign governments.

[donassaid]

Totally disagree. Restaurants and other businesses are short of help all over only because of the unemployment benefits being paid. Do you really think that a bloated federal government run by free spending politicians is going to check up on those receiving benefits to make sure they are "out looking for a job"? Of course not. Many of them will not be happy until everyone in this country is on welfare.

[lindaelane]

I've been reading up on this after St. John's Seafood stopped opening for lunch - they are dinner only now. They stated this is because they cannot find enough workers. In the same center Pho Village had one worker taking orders who told me he was exhausted and asked to me if I knew anyone who wanted a job. It is sad. Also, the two sit down restaurants I have visited recently had what I think was service by non-citizens (I feel for those seeking a better life, despite thinking immigration should be for those who are legal, so this is not meant to be a mean comment - and yes, I know some got recent stimulus, but they do not get unemployment so need to work to live.)

Anyway...WSJ reported two things (1) Some people still will not return to jobs out of Covid-fear (2) Many restaurant workers found different jobs when they were laid off during the pandemic.

It rather surprised me that WSJ failed to mention how lucrative unemployment insurance is. According to my understanding, all one must do is state they were "looking for work" and state places they say they sought jobs to continue on it. So, I think high unemployment benefits, even as the nation re-opens, is a reason.

I have begun calling to confirm restaurants are open before going.

[J1ceasar]

Complain complain complain is that all your seniors ever do, you're retired take a few minutes and relax while waiting for your ice cream. Don't you know people don't want to work if they're making an extra $300 a week by not working. We've seen two Burger King's, two little caesars, and a Wendy's close up so far because nobody wants to work and management has been so frustrated they just closed the places simply because there're not making any money anyway

[Larchap49]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

Haven't you noticed almost any restaurant yiu go to is under staffed. They either block off tables to keep service up to par or the servers have too many tables and service suffers. The high unemployment benefits may be the cause.

[BettyInFL]

I was told by the guy directing drive-thru traffic in the McDonalds (across from Wal-mart) that the restaurant makes more money with just the drive-through open. Cuts way back on their over-head costs of having the dining room open.

[retiredguy123]

I was told by the guy directing drive-thru traffic in the McDonalds (across from Wal-mart) that the restaurant makes more money with just the drive-through open. Cuts way back on their over-head costs of having the dining room open.
Why isn't that guy the president of McDonald's? He should have told them that 66 years ago.

[Astron]

Too many folks receiving too much unemployment insurance... would lose money taking a job

Sumter county has low unemployment at this time. Too many old people want too many retail and restaurant workers leads to employers needing more workers than the local area can provide.
Sumter County, FL Unemployment Rate (https://ycharts.com/indicators/sumter_county_fl_unemployment_rate)

[Petersweeney]

Jeez make your own sandwiches - they taste much better!

[jakers]

You are absolutely correct! Much easier to live off the government than show up every day for job.

[waynehal55]

Culvers employees are not seasonal employees. This is a thread about Culver's. They are not laid off for a season.

In fact, MOST people who work for a living, are NOT seasonal employees. MOST people who work for a living, do so all year round. And there are actual laws with regards to how ANYONE is allowed to collect unemployment compensation. It is regulated state-wide rather than federally. You know, that minimal government the conservative types love so much. Whether they are eligible or not for their state's unemployment compensation program is dependent on their state's criteria.

If you feel Florida's unemployment compensation is given out too generously, then take it up with the Florida government. They're the ones who make the rules around here.

Most of these people also get extended benefits from the Federal Government.
Your comments might have been true 50 years ago.

[kimgarwel12@gmail.com]

The last time we were at Culver's, we went through the drive-thru for 2 turtle sundaes. They gave us a # to wait in line (for ice cream???). We waited 15 mins and still no ice cream. Then I went back inside to talk to the manager who looked to be about 15. He questioned the girl making sundaes. She said she sent 2 turtle sundaes to the window. He asked the guy at the window what he did with the 2 turtles. That guy said he "gave them to someone in a car." Ironically, the receipt he gave me along with the # was charged to my card, but was for another order (fortunately, it was less than our 2 turtle sundaes). So, not only did someone else get our sundaes and not question it, but someone else was charged for them and didn't question it. The manager personally made our sundaes, but shrugged the whole thing off and walked away. This is the kind of work ethic you get with hiring high school kids and not hold them accountable for their actions. I fear we'll see this more and more in the coming days, weeks, months.........

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Did it ever occur to many of you , that lots of young people worry about Covid and exposing there families , young children , older parents. We see many high earning professionals, athletes and retired people who have dropped out of socializing or going into work,so why do you object to a minimum wage earner staying away as long as he can . Let us not forget that it took many of these people a long time to start collecting and the hardships that came with it . We should also remember even before Covid there were shortages of help , it’s no different in any high season area, Cape Cod in the summer , ski places in northern New England. I realize that most of you on here worked harder, never complained , always did the right thing , to sum it all up ( YOU WERE PERFECT) but have a little empathy for those not as PERFECT

[Hedyg]

That was the case when I went-no explanation

[Rodneysblue]

McDonalds in Colony was drive thru only last week when we stopped by. No reason they should be closed to indoor service. Long line at drive thru, no thanks.
People don’t want to work. We were at Cracker Barrel the other day and service was very slow. Our server was moving as fast as she could. When she came to our table she apologized and said that they were way under staffed.

[donfey]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

Same thing last fall at Bob Evans and others. When the GOVERNMENT pays people to not work, when work is available, are they helping or causing harm? What do you suppose their motive is?

[G.R.I.T.S.]

A lot of places can't open the inside - Culvers, McDonalds, Wendys, Burger King plus regular businesses are understaffed. People are getting paid by the Federal Government to stay home. They are not going to work. The teachers have already had one full year of pay and have not returned to work. Many of the schools are still closed. There are hiring signs in cities and town all over the US. Thankfully our tax dollars are paying for this and are increasing soon to fund this. /s
Hopefully, this is sarcasm...:ohdear:

[Shellshack]

As Yogi Berra said, “nobody goes there anymore because it’s too busy. “

[LucyP]

This happen to me there. I got in drive thru around 6, I saw a cleaning van figure inside close to be clean and had few cars ahead of me for drive thru. Saw a guy come out lock door. Waiting a long time and finally two ladies in golf cart came up and told us it was closed! The guy who locked the door should of came up and told all the cars in line they were closed! They should of put a sign on drive thru menu that place was close.
They needed to be more considerate to their customers even if they are short with employees. Not our fault. Just not them, there are other restaurants been rude and ugly to their customers. KFC of 441 has a rude manager. Stress is very high. Not able to hire people because they are getting more unemployment and pay is low.

[arickis]

You are extremely naïve or just plain stupid, if you don't understand the implications of extended and increased unemployment benefits. The people can stay on unemployment if they feel unsafe to go back to work, and on top of that, they received a bonus that might come close to doubling their pay! No it is not a local issue, it is a federal government mandate so Florida just can't end it. Yes it is political because we have morons running the system. This is here until 2024 and maybe longer.

[Jokomo]

Too many folks receiving too much unemployment insurance... would lose money taking a job

That tells me the employers aren’t paying a living wage.

[B-flat]

I know of family members one is a 50ish year old with 3 sons. He has held 2 full time jobs for years due to some circumstances ( that I’m not completely sure of ) he cannot collect any unemployment benefits. Meanwhile his 18 year old niece who worked at Showcase Cinemas was collecting $600 per week for months. Here’s a young woman who never earned anywhere close to $600 per week. Yes the system is flawed, whey work when you can collect more not working. Sad, sad condition we are in but you all know that anyway.

[jakers]

I guess you will see the light a little later than some people. Make more staying home, why work?

[jimjamuser]

Too many folks receiving too much unemployment insurance... would lose money taking a job
What you say IS true, but logically instead of the unemployment payments being too HIGH (using the theory of relativity) could not the restaurant pay be too low. Think about that! Why blame the employee for choosing the correct thing to do from their perspective? Why NOT blame the employer for being too greedy to pay their employees a LIVING wage? The reason that the owners do NOT get blamed is that the restaurant customers do NOT want to pay a higher price for their meals. They expect to be served like kings and queens by servers that are caught in a downward cycle of pay that makes them literally "WAGE SLAVES"!

Better to blame the owners that could easily get employees by simply paying higher wages and forcing ALL the other restaurant owners to raise their menu prices. They would then pass the cost (that they can) onto the public. No restaurant owner wants to be the 1st to do this. They would be kicked out of their good-old-boys club! Sure, the public will complain. But, they would then again be able to get the FULL experience of INDOOR DINING. Which the Villages public feels ENTITLED to.

[Aces4]

What you say IS true, but logically instead of the unemployment payments being too HIGH (using the theory of relativity) could not the restaurant pay be too low. Think about that! Why blame the employee for choosing the correct thing to do from their perspective? Why NOT blame the employer for being too greedy to pay their employees a LIVING wage? The reason that the owners do NOT get blamed is that the restaurant customers do NOT want to pay a higher price for their meals. They expect to be served like kings and queens by servers that are caught in a downward cycle of pay that makes them literally "WAGE SLAVES"!

Better to blame the owners that could easily get employees by simply paying higher wages and forcing ALL the other restaurant owners to raise their menu prices. They would then pass the cost (that they can) onto the public. No restaurant owner wants to be the 1st to do this. They would be kicked out of their good-old-boys club! Sure, the public will complain. But, they would then again be able to get the FULL experience of INDOOR DINING. Which the Villages public feels ENTITLED to.


Probably because most of us worked for “slave wages” until our early twenties. The public tit is loaded at this point and you’ll NEVER get people back off of it. Two children family homes have added to this problem in large part with kids who grow up lacking for nothing and the most chores they’ve ever had were walking the dog and making their beds. This problem isn’t limited to TV alone. States are struggling to find competent tradespeople and manufacturing producers. If businesses are able to hire employees, they walk off the job by noon. They state they don’t want to work that hard. Wait until you see what’s coming down the line, try not to end up in assisted living or a nursing home.

[alehew]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!
Our administration is ruining businesses by giving people money so they all quit. All businesses are having this issue....

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

You are extremely naïve or just plain stupid, if you don't understand the implications of extended and increased unemployment benefits. The people can stay on unemployment if they feel unsafe to go back to work, and on top of that, they received a bonus that might come close to doubling their pay! No it is not a local issue, it is a federal government mandate so Florida just can't end it. Yes it is political because we have morons running the system. This is here until 2024 and maybe longer.

This "bonus" was started in the PREVIOUS administration, last year, as the result of the pandemic causing millions of people to be out of work as a result of closures.

While I agree that we're giving too much, I also acknowledge that this is a unique situation that our PLANET has never experienced before, and the attempts to address the situation began over a year ago, when someone else was running the country.

[Aces4]

This "bonus" was started in the PREVIOUS administration, last year, as the result of the pandemic causing millions of people to be out of work as a result of closures.

While I agree that we're giving too much, I also acknowledge that this is a unique situation that our PLANET has never experienced before, and the attempts to address the situation began over a year ago, when someone else was running the country.

Someone else running the country wanted to lower the unemployment benefit, Dec. 8, 2020.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Probably because most of us worked for “slave wages” until our early twenties. The public tit is loaded at this point and you’ll NEVER get people back off of it. Two children family homes have added to this problem in large part with kids who grow up lacking for nothing and the most chores they’ve ever had were walking the dog and making their beds. This problem isn’t limited to TV alone. States are struggling to find competent tradespeople and manufacturing producers. If businesses are able to hire employees, they walk off the job by noon. They state they don’t want to work that hard. Wait until you see what’s coming down the line, try not to end up in assisted living or a nursing home.

Yes and back in the day when you had to walk uphill both ways in 6' snow to milk the cows in the back 90, people didn't have to pay over $100,000 per year if they wanted to be a lawyer when they grew up. In fact, MOST people could afford to go to some kind of secondary school beyond 12th grade, and states had funds with super low interest rates to accommodate those who couldn't afford the cash but whose parents could co-sign for the long-term payback.

Back in the day when minimum wage, combined with 3 roommates, COULD support 4 adults living in a 2-bedroom walkup and allow them to pay all the bills and still have a few coins to toss in the bank. Back in the day, people didn't automatically assume that "independent living" had to mean "owning a nice house in a nice neighborhood and 2 cars." It could mean "renting a modest apartment in a neighborhood that had public transportation to work".

Sadly, many parents of today have taught their children differently. Sadly, those parents were taught by THEIR parents to do things differently. But who were those grandparents? Oh yea - that's right. It's US. And by US I mean people who are currently over 60, who have children, who have children. That wouldn't be me personally since I don't have kids.

[Aces4]

Yes and back in the day when you had to walk uphill both ways in 6' snow to milk the cows in the back 90, people didn't have to pay over $100,000 per year if they wanted to be a lawyer when they grew up. In fact, MOST people could afford to go to some kind of secondary school beyond 12th grade, and states had funds with super low interest rates to accommodate those who couldn't afford the cash but whose parents could co-sign for the long-term payback.

Back in the day when minimum wage, combined with 3 roommates, COULD support 4 adults living in a 2-bedroom walkup and allow them to pay all the bills and still have a few coins to toss in the bank. Back in the day, people didn't automatically assume that "independent living" had to mean "owning a nice house in a nice neighborhood and 2 cars." It could mean "renting a modest apartment in a neighborhood that had public transportation to work".

Sadly, many parents of today have taught their children differently. Sadly, those parents were taught by THEIR parents to do things differently. But who were those grandparents? Oh yea - that's right. It's US. And by US I mean people who are currently over 60, who have children, who have children. That wouldn't be me personally since I don't have kids.


Actually, I did grow up on an 80 acre dairy farm, not 90, carried more 5 gallon buckets of milk to be lifted and poured into the strainer than the people in the lovely scenario above would ever consider doing. If you want the laundry list of all the work I performed on that farm, let me know. I was babysitting for neighbors from the age of 12, worked as a “mother’s helper” in the summer for two years beginning in seventh grade for $15./wk with a day off every other weekend. Our larger family couldn’t afford college back then but we all grew up hardworking, successful and failure wasn’t an option. I personally believe the high school education back then was almost the equivalent of many college educations now. By the way, our children had jobs starting at age 15.

[jimjamuser]

Yes, the line looks long, but it moves along relatively quickly, and you still get the same freshly made food. The workers are handling the crush with positive attitudes. Closing the dining room means the personnel present can concentrate on food prep and delivery rather than dining room sanitization and clean up.
As a general statement about restaurants and their patrons - US Americans are the world's leading restaurant-goers - France is 2nd. I do NOT know WHY this is true, but I would be interested in comments. There is probably a historical component to it and possibly a psychological component to it? Possibly being the country with the highest GNP seems to give us ENTITLEMENT to the "dining-out" experience? Scandinavian countries do not engage in the sport of "eating-out" nearly as much as US Americans. WE are the outlier among the 1st world countries.

With reference to employee wages - since 1975 the average US employee has received NO (zero) wage increases to this date - if you take inflation ( or expressed in constant dollars) into consideration. It has been quite different for employers who on average have done quite well - even currently creating in the US the highest wealth gap for all of the 1st world countries! Interestingly, Jeff Besos and Elon Musk together have more WEALTH than the bottom 40% of US citizens. Is that FAIR? Is that Christian? Is that even sustainable?

[stebooo]

Let's see we are paying unemployed and extra 300 a week till memorial day

[Aces4]

As a general statement about restaurants and their patrons - US Americans are the world's leading restaurant-goers - France is 2nd. I do NOT know WHY this is true, but I would be interested in comments. There is probably a historical component to it and possibly a psychological component to it? Possibly being the country with the highest GNP seems to give us ENTITLEMENT to the "dining-out" experience? Scandinavian countries do not engage in the sport of "eating-out" nearly as much as US Americans. WE are the outlier among the 1st world countries.

With reference to employee wages - since 1975 the average US employee has received NO (zero) wage increases to this date - if you take inflation ( or expressed in constant dollars) into consideration. It has been quite different for employers who on average have done quite well - even currently creating in the US the highest wealth gap for all of the 1st world countries! Interestingly, Jeff Besos and Elon Mush together have more WEALTH than the bottom 40% of US citizens. Is that FAIR? Is that Christian? Is that even sustainable?



I don’t know why you threw Christian in there as I don’t believe that applies to either of their philosophies and if you think they are too rich, don’t employ their handiwork. Just say “no” is an option.

The eating out bit, watch the drive through restaurants in the evening. You can see Dad or Mom or both driving through with their loaded car seats or middle schoolers or teenagers in the back. There isn't much cooking going on anymore, healthy or otherwise.

[jimjamuser]

I say suck it up buttercup and get back to work and get off the dole.Too bad you lazy loafers have to wear a mask while working. It is what it is.
Thanks for the empathy! It helps deal with the problem. It makes it all crystal clear.

[retiredguy123]

As a general statement about restaurants and their patrons - US Americans are the world's leading restaurant-goers - France is 2nd. I do NOT know WHY this is true, but I would be interested in comments. There is probably a historical component to it and possibly a psychological component to it? Possibly being the country with the highest GNP seems to give us ENTITLEMENT to the "dining-out" experience? Scandinavian countries do not engage in the sport of "eating-out" nearly as much as US Americans. WE are the outlier among the 1st world countries.

With reference to employee wages - since 1975 the average US employee has received NO (zero) wage increases to this date - if you take inflation ( or expressed in constant dollars) into consideration. It has been quite different for employers who on average have done quite well - even currently creating in the US the highest wealth gap for all of the 1st world countries! Interestingly, Jeff Besos and Elon Mush together have more WEALTH than the bottom 40% of US citizens. Is that FAIR? Is that Christian? Is that even sustainable?
I believe in capitalism, so I think the wealth gap is fair. And, the highest income earners pay almost all of the Federal income tax, with the bottom half paying little or no Federal income tax.

[Holpat39]

Many of the fast food restaurants on 466 and 441 have help wanted signs in the window and many have drive thru only. Even The Club rehab at Mulberry has a sign outside saying help wanted. Most of the rehabs and hospitals in Sumter, Lake and Marion Counties are begging for help and calling former employees to come back offering sign on bonuses.

[jimjamuser]

I've been reading up on this after St. John's Seafood stopped opening for lunch - they are dinner only now. They stated this is because they cannot find enough workers. In the same center Pho Village had one worker taking orders who told me he was exhausted and asked to me if I knew anyone who wanted a job. It is sad. Also, the two sit down restaurants I have visited recently had what I think was service by non-citizens (I feel for those seeking a better life, despite thinking immigration should be for those who are legal, so this is not meant to be a mean comment - and yes, I know some got recent stimulus, but they do not get unemployment so need to work to live.)

Anyway...WSJ reported two things (1) Some people still will not return to jobs out of Covid-fear (2) Many restaurant workers found different jobs when they were laid off during the pandemic.

It rather surprised me that WSJ failed to mention how lucrative unemployment insurance is. According to my understanding, all one must do is state they were "looking for work" and state places they say they sought jobs to continue on it. So, I think high unemployment benefits, even as the nation re-opens, is a reason.

I have begun calling to confirm restaurants are open before going.
Non-citizens working in TV land is NOT a good idea. If the US absorbs too many "non-citizens" from 3rd world countries, then the US will eventually become a 3rd world country. It would be patriotic for restaurant patrons to BOYCOTT restaurants that employ "non citizens". The local police should check citizenship and begin deportation procedures. And The Village residents should push their local leaders to ensure this policy. A restaurant patron needs to give up an inside seat for a burger to prevent the crumbling apart of their country that helped them get a good retirement. Have some patriotism for citizens not "non-citizens".

[retiredguy123]

Non-citizens working in TV land is NOT a good idea. If the US absorbs too many "non-citizens" from 3rd world countries, then the US will eventually become a 3rd world country. It would be patriotic for restaurant patrons to BOYCOTT restaurants that employ "non citizens". The local police should check citizenship and begin deportation procedures. And The Village residents should push their local leaders to ensure this policy. A restaurant patron needs to give up an inside seat for a burger to prevent the crumbling apart of their country that helped them get a good retirement. Have some patriotism for citizens not "non-citizens".
I agree, but only 8 states require private employers to use E-verify to confirm that an employee is eligible to work. Florida is not one of them. E-verify can instantly verify a person's eligibility to work, but the restaurant industry is totally opposed to using it. And, local law enforcement has no authority to check citizenship or to deport anyone.

[Pat2015]

That’s the situation everywhere. Is it Culver’s fault just like all the other businesses in the area that they can’t get help when people are sitting at home collecting unemployment from the government which pays more to people than going to work? People when return to work when the government stops paying them to stay home.

[Pat2015]

That tells me that the unemployment supplements from our tax dollars are too much and are discouraging people from going back to work which is killing businesses.

[Pat2015]

Great idea as that would put all the restaurants out of business and increase unemployment.

[jimjamuser]

Probably because most of us worked for “slave wages” until our early twenties. The public tit is loaded at this point and you’ll NEVER get people back off of it. Two children family homes have added to this problem in large part with kids who grow up lacking for nothing and the most chores they’ve ever had were walking the dog and making their beds. This problem isn’t limited to TV alone. States are struggling to find competent tradespeople and manufacturing producers. If businesses are able to hire employees, they walk off the job by noon. They state they don’t want to work that hard. Wait until you see what’s coming down the line, try not to end up in assisted living or a nursing home.
Correct about nursing homes. People working there will have gotten inadequate public school education ( to save on property taxes) - they will have trouble reading the medical instructions for what NOT to feed you and they will give out too much or not enough medication. We that end up in nursing homes will pay the price for turning the US into a 3rd world country.

[bonrich]

It’s the beginning of Socialism in our country. Be dependent on the government for your care. Insure a strong voter base to keep that “free” money coming in. Margaret Thatcher said “Socialism is wonderful until you run out of other peoples money.” People, that money you are getting is all of our money we paid out in taxes. The government is not being benevolent.

[jimjamuser]

This "bonus" was started in the PREVIOUS administration, last year, as the result of the pandemic causing millions of people to be out of work as a result of closures.

While I agree that we're giving too much, I also acknowledge that this is a unique situation that our PLANET has never experienced before, and the attempts to address the situation began over a year ago, when someone else was running the country.
Agreed - failure to react quickly and appropriately to the CV Pandemic has cast a shadow of difficult problems that linger today.

[Aces4]

Agreed - failure to react quickly and appropriately to the CV Pandemic has cast a shadow of difficult problems that linger today.

Disagree, no one knew what that virus was that quickly. They can’t even give us straight answers now.

[Topspinmo]

I know this first hand up north in northern NE. Folks have been verbal about making more staying home than working. It causes shortages in staff and repercussions in services.

I'm not making this up. I know. Seasonal folks are laid off not fired. They collect. No need to go back to work.

Free money! Woo Whoo!


For another 80 something weeks. And I sure it will be extended. There not going make $350 plus week working minimum paying jobs, so no incentive to look for work.

[jimjamuser]

Yes, I know. That IS the way it IS. I was thinking out loud about how it SHOULD be!

[Topspinmo]

Agreed - failure to react quickly and appropriately to the CV Pandemic has cast a shadow of difficult problems that linger today.

So, where do you think the vaccine came from so quickly? It was ready long before November wasn’t it.

[jimjamuser]

Disagree, no one knew what that virus was that quickly. They can’t even give us straight answers now.
New Zealand and Australia knew and so did Bob Woodward by Feb 2020. Plenty of time to do the right thing. Just that you and I were let down. But someone, not named me chose to forget or ignore it. It's OK I understand the loyalty to a particular party. But beware stepping into that rabbit hole that leads to Joseph Stalinland.

[Topspinmo]

Correct about nursing homes. People working there will have gotten inadequate public school education ( to save on property taxes) - they will have trouble reading the medical instructions for what NOT to feed you and they will give out too much or not enough medication. We that end up in nursing homes will pay the price for turning the US into a 3rd world country.

So, you’re saying LPN And CNA have no education? Wow! So I guess they got there diplomats from black market. I don’t agree with we, you maybe.

IMO healthcare worker’s in nursing home’s are rated pretty high in my book. One of last blue collar jobs left in smaller communities that hasn’t be shipped overseas.

[Topspinmo]

They weren't suffering in December, when everything down here was opened up and everyone was enjoying their take-out, curbside pickup, and dine-in service. Stores had enough employees then, and - surprise surprise - there was an unemployment extension and boost then too.

What's different between December and now?

It's a rhetorical question. No need to answer.

Yes, know it all. Amazing what can be seen all over the country from hill top.

[Hogfan55]

Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Culver's ALWAYS has lines going around the building during the typical dinner rush. They had those lines even when the dining room was open, before the pandemic shut-downs. I'm guessing that they are -currently- short-staffed, because of normal mundane issues. One person is out on maternity leave, another is sick, another got a better job somewhere else, and another moved and no longer lives close enough to keep working there, and it all happened in the same week.

Meanwhile, minimum wage will be going up to $10/hour in September. It's very likely that some people are choosing to -not- work for $8.65/hour, for the next few months.

And yes I'm sure there are at least a few people who are taking advantage of the unemployment funding boost. However - if they are caught lying about being available, actively seeking, and able to return to work, they not only get cut off, they risk having to pay back ALL the money that was given to them from the first day of their claim.

In addition, the money is only available until the expiration date. It's not likely they'll get another extension on the extra.
You are wrong here. I know from having a family member (and I’m embarrassed by this) who hasn’t worked in two years. He told me everybody has been telling him he needs to sign up for unemployment. I laughed at him. How can he get unemployment when he hasn’t worked in two years and quit his job? The COVID he said. He signed up and got $8000 back pay and is getting a weekly check. Do you think he will work now? We are rewarding sloths and the joke is on all of us who always do the right thing. It’s disgusting but true. I did business with restaurants for years and their biggest problem was getting help and getting them to show up. Several restaurants in my town have had to close periodically because they were short handed. I don’t like the way our country is going.

[jimkerr]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

It's the same thing happening at most restaurants. They are all short staffed because the government handouts are paying them more than they were making working. All of us have to be patient and understanding. It's not the restaurants fault.

[Topspinmo]

Great idea as that would put all the restaurants out of business and increase unemployment.

In nice way, need to quote post so we know who you’re talking to. Lower right hand corner, hit quote, then type in you’re comments.

[Aces4]

So, you’re saying LPN And CNA have no education? Wow! So I guess they got there diplomats from black market. I don’t agree with we, you maybe.

IMO healthcare worker’s in nursing home’s are rated pretty high in my book. One of last blue collar jobs left in smaller communities that hasn’t be shipped overseas.


I couldn’t agree with you more. I have witnessed hard working, compassionate people serving the elderly and disabled. My comment was regarding being paid so well to stay home, why leave and go to work?

[Aces4]

New Zealand and Australia knew and so did Bob Woodward by Feb 2020. Plenty of time to do the right thing. Just that you and I were let down. But someone, not named me chose to forget or ignore it. It's OK I understand the loyalty to a particular party. But beware stepping into that rabbit hole that leads to Joseph Stalinland.

That’s funny... New Zealand and Australia and Bob Woodward. So why wouldn’t these fortuitous locations and individual share their vaccine with us immediately?

[Aces4]

Non-citizens working in TV land is NOT a good idea. If the US absorbs too many "non-citizens" from 3rd world countries, then the US will eventually become a 3rd world country. It would be patriotic for restaurant patrons to BOYCOTT restaurants that employ "non citizens". The local police should check citizenship and begin deportation procedures. And The Village residents should push their local leaders to ensure this policy. A restaurant patron needs to give up an inside seat for a burger to prevent the crumbling apart of their country that helped them get a good retirement. Have some patriotism for citizens not "non-citizens".

And that realization just hit?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Non-citizens working in TV land is NOT a good idea. If the US absorbs too many "non-citizens" from 3rd world countries, then the US will eventually become a 3rd world country. It would be patriotic for restaurant patrons to BOYCOTT restaurants that employ "non citizens". The local police should check citizenship and begin deportation procedures. And The Village residents should push their local leaders to ensure this policy. A restaurant patron needs to give up an inside seat for a burger to prevent the crumbling apart of their country that helped them get a good retirement. Have some patriotism for citizens not "non-citizens".

Don't forget all those landscapers, roofers, tree-cutters, and various other physical labor contractors. If they're not citizens, they shouldn't be working here.

Put your money where your mouth is and if your window guy comes to install a new window and he has a foreign accent, refuse to get the work done! If your TV breaks and the repairman comes and he has them thar funny eyes, tell him to take a hike, and buy a new TV! Those landscapers who work for Bright? Refuse to pay your amenity fees until they are replaced with Americans!

Oh wait - you want new windows, and you want your TV fixed, and you want the lawn mowed in front of the sign to your Vista De La Bella Sol Villa Villas, and the only people WILLING to do the job for what the bosses are paying them (without any health insurance, mind you) are brown-skinned ferriners? Well dad gummit then, I guess you might just have to move to an island and hire all your own people from now on.

Or fix your own danged TV.

[Aces4]

Don't forget all those landscapers, roofers, tree-cutters, and various other physical labor contractors. If they're not citizens, they shouldn't be working here.

Put your money where your mouth is and if your window guy comes to install a new window and he has a foreign accent, refuse to get the work done! If your TV breaks and the repairman comes and he has them thar funny eyes, tell him to take a hike, and buy a new TV! Those landscapers who work for Bright? Refuse to pay your amenity fees until they are replaced with Americans!

Oh wait - you want new windows, and you want your TV fixed, and you want the lawn mowed in front of the sign to your Vista De La Bella Sol Villa Villas, and the only people WILLING to do the job for what the bosses are paying them (without any health insurance, mind you) are brown-skinned ferriners? Well dad gummit then, I guess you might just have to move to an island and hire all your own people from now on.

Or fix your own danged TV.


That’s a flawed argument. Remove the borders because Americans can no longer do for themselves? How about instituting citizenship and having everyone rowing the same boat and clearing requirements for citizenship.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

That’s a flawed argument. Remove the borders because Americans can no longer do for themselves? How about instituting citizenship and having everyone rowing the same boat and clearing requirements for citizenship.

If it's such a big deal to you, then be the change. Do for yourself. Stop supporting enterprises that hire foreigners. If you can't find any, then do the work yourself. If you don't like the color of the skin or the slant of the eye or the accent of your local supermarket cashier, then apply for a job there to prevent some OTHER person who looks or sounds different from you from getting the gig.

Not everyone comes from the same boat. There is no boat. We aren't being invaded. There have been "illegals" in the USA since before it WAS the USA. Anyone whose families came to this country before 1882 was UNdocumented. So that would make all their descendants "anchor babies" and anchor families. And anyone related to those UNdocumented immigrants who came over after them, chain migrants.

What's the most significant difference between those Europeans and the current batch of UNdocumented immigrants? The color of their skin and their accents, and the fact that the Europeans came over on boats, and the current batch is walking into the continent.

If you think that makes your ancestors or your next door neighbor's ancestors or your mom's hairdresser's brother-in-law's ancestors or any other white anglo ancestors better than the ones coming in from the southern border, then I have some property to sell you at the edge of the very last bit of land the Villages developer will ever build.

[jimbomaybe]

That tells me the employers aren’t paying a living wage. people starving in the streets,risking life and limb for a loaf of bread climbing walls on our southern border to get out, oh the agony

[Professor]

Same with us. Won't be back anytime soon...

[Aces4]

If it's such a big deal to you, then be the change. Do for yourself. Stop supporting enterprises that hire foreigners. If you can't find any, then do the work yourself. If you don't like the color of the skin or the slant of the eye or the accent of your local supermarket cashier, then apply for a job there to prevent some OTHER person who looks or sounds different from you from getting the gig.

Not everyone comes from the same boat. There is no boat. We aren't being invaded. There have been "illegals" in the USA since before it WAS the USA. Anyone whose families came to this country before 1882 was UNdocumented. So that would make all their descendants "anchor babies" and anchor families. And anyone related to those UNdocumented immigrants who came over after them, chain migrants.

What's the most significant difference between those Europeans and the current batch of UNdocumented immigrants? The color of their skin and their accents, and the fact that the Europeans came over on boats, and the current batch is walking into the continent.

If you think that makes your ancestors or your next door neighbor's ancestors or your mom's hairdresser's brother-in-law's ancestors or any other white anglo ancestors better than the ones coming in from the southern border, then I have some property to sell you at the edge of the very last bit of land the Villages developer will ever build.


This is the new approach to push this country over the edge. If you want people to come into America legally and become citizens and then take up residency, you are now labeled as racist. We have African American, Hispanic and Asian members in our family tree. Do you? Efforts to paint everyone who disagrees with you as evil is getting old.

[mlmarr1]

It's all about free money to stay home..stop the nonsense and watch how fast they find jobs.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I think some of you are just making up stories about friends or sons or relatives or neighbors' kids just to prove a point you can't prove otherwise. To whoever had someone file for unemployment two years after they stopped working - either that person defrauded the government, and by extension - us taxpayers - or someone is lying. You -cannot- be eligible for unemployment compensation if you haven't worked for the past two years. There is actually specific criteria. Here it is:

404 - File or directory not found. (https://floridajobs.org/Reemployment-Assistance-Service-Center/reemployment-assistance/claimants/claimant-faqs-(new))

And anyone who KNOWS someone who is intentionally defrauding the government (and by extension - we taxpayers) by refusing to try and work, or refusing to return to work if their employer offers them their job back, should be reporting that person to the department of labor.

[Aces4]

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;1931484]I think some of you are just making up stories about friends or sons or relatives or neighbors' kids just to prove a point you can't prove otherwise. To whoever had someone file for unemployment two years after they stopped working - either that person defrauded the government, and by extension - us taxpayers - or someone is lying. You -cannot- be eligible for unemployment compensation if you haven't worked for the past two years. There is actually specific criteria. Here it is:

404 - File or directory not found. (https://floridajobs.org/Reemployment-Assistance-Service-Center/reemployment-assistance/claimants/claimant-faqs-(new))

And anyone who KNOWS someone who is intentionally defrauding the government (and by extension - we taxpayers) by refusing to try and work, or refusing to return to work if their employer offers them their job back, should be reporting that person to the department of labor


Too bad the truth doesn’t fit your narrative. I’m the one telling the truth and I sleep well at night knowing that.

[MDLNB]

I guess there are some that when they find out that Chic fil a is closed on Sundays, won't go back again. Can't please all the people all the time. I like Culvers and plan to frequent it many times in the future, whether it is drive thru or dine in. I too get impatient and won't get into a long line, but that will not deter me from returning in the future. Sometimes we drive thru in our golf cart, and sit under a tree across the road to enjoy the open air while consuming our fresh meal. I wonder how many really care if someone stomps off in a tantrum because the dining room is closed.

[Dana1963]

I think some of you are just making up stories about friends or sons or relatives or neighbors' kids just to prove a point you can't prove otherwise. To whoever had someone file for unemployment two years after they stopped working - either that person defrauded the government, and by extension - us taxpayers - or someone is lying. You -cannot- be eligible for unemployment compensation if you haven't worked for the past two years. There is actually specific criteria. Here it is:

404 - File or directory not found. (https://floridajobs.org/Reemployment-Assistance-Service-Center/reemployment-assistance/claimants/claimant-faqs-(new))

And anyone who KNOWS someone who is intentionally defrauding the government (and by extension - we taxpayers) by refusing to try and work, or refusing to return to work if their employer offers them their job back, should be reporting that person to the department of labor.
Common sense doesn’t work here.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I guess there are some that when they find out that Chic fil a is closed on Sundays, won't go back again. Can't please all the people all the time. I like Culvers and plan to frequent it many times in the future, whether it is drive thru or dine in. I too get impatient and won't get into a long line, but that will not deter me from returning in the future. Sometimes we drive thru in our golf cart, and sit under a tree across the road to enjoy the open air while consuming our fresh meal. I wonder how many really care if someone stomps off in a tantrum because the dining room is closed.

Yup. Happened at the post office the other day too. There was a line of four people. The second clerk was on break, and the first clerk had a "situation" with her customer that was causing her to take a long time to resolve it. I was the 4th person in line. The person ahead of me got fed up and left. That made me the 3rd person in line. Five minutes later, the other clerk returned from her break, and 5 minutes after that, it was my turn.

For all that people insist they're retired, what's the hurry, slow down, stop being in a rush - there are a LOT of impatient people here.

[mydavid]

The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers! Went there soon after they open, had to stand in line 10 minuets to order and another several minuets for them to bring the food. Didn't think much of the food or service, never went back.

[Bay Kid]

I owe, I owe, I owe, it is off to the government I go.

[Redsmom]

Same thing last fall at Bob Evans and others. When the GOVERNMENT pays people to not work, when work is available, are they helping or causing harm? What do you suppose their motive is?

Tear down capitalism and replace it with Socialism.

[richs631]

Too many folks receiving too much unemployment insurance... would lose money taking a job

Agree 100%. This is not specific to Culver’s. When the government hands out money like candy to stay home it becomes a problem. Add that to today’s kids that are lazy and feel entitled and this is what you get

[richs631]

Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Culver's ALWAYS has lines going around the building during the typical dinner rush. They had those lines even when the dining room was open, before the pandemic shut-downs. I'm guessing that they are -currently- short-staffed, because of normal mundane issues. One person is out on maternity leave, another is sick, another got a better job somewhere else, and another moved and no longer lives close enough to keep working there, and it all happened in the same week.

Meanwhile, minimum wage will be going up to $10/hour in September. It's very likely that some people are choosing to -not- work for $8.65/hour, for the next few months.

And yes I'm sure there are at least a few people who are taking advantage of the unemployment funding boost. However - if they are caught lying about being available, actively seeking, and able to return to work, they not only get cut off, they risk having to pay back ALL the money that was given to them from the first day of their claim.

In addition, the money is only available until the expiration date. It's not likely they'll get another extension on the extra.

With all do respect your giving to much credit to today’s generation. I’m not painting every kid with the same brush but believe me nobody and I mean nobody will ever get caught lying on an unemployment application. It’s run by the government 😂😂😂

[eyc234]

There is a huge problem with people not applying or looking for jobs. Just watch any local news and they are doing stories everyday about businesses running at half or lower capacity or even closing due to lack of employees or applicants. Go to the early days of pandemic and governor suspended requirement to show an actual real search for employment requirement to receive unemployment. If you are making as much or more staying home why go to work? Not saying that is only reason but it is hard to deny that it is not part of the problem and should be looked into as part of the solution for people going back to work.

[richs631]

Culvers employees are not seasonal employees. This is a thread about Culver's. They are not laid off for a season.

In fact, MOST people who work for a living, are NOT seasonal employees. MOST people who work for a living, do so all year round. And there are actual laws with regards to how ANYONE is allowed to collect unemployment compensation. It is regulated state-wide rather than federally. You know, that minimal government the conservative types love so much. Whether they are eligible or not for their state's unemployment compensation program is dependent on their state's criteria.

If you feel Florida's unemployment compensation is given out too generously, then take it up with the Florida government. They're the ones who make the rules around here.

FYI. This COVID thing with unemployment is not Florida’s doing it’s federal

[justjim]

The demand for workers far exceeds the supply. A labor shortage has been predicted for several years and it’s particularly problematic in The Villages where the local labor supply just hasn’t kept up with the growth and expansion. A shortage of labor has been a major issue for restaurants long before Covid because of the low wages and benefits. Florida is at or near the bottom of States on this issue of wages and benefits. It’s not only a problem for unskilled workers but also recruiting skilled employees as well. Perhaps the “sunshine” is no longer enough to attract and keep good employees.

[Aces4]

The demand for workers far exceeds the supply. A labor shortage has been predicted for several years and it’s particularly problematic in The Villages where the local labor supply just hasn’t kept up with the growth and expansion. A shortage of labor has been a major issue for restaurants long before Covid because of the low wages and benefits. Florida is at or near the bottom of States on this issue of wages and benefits. It’s not only a problem for unskilled workers but also recruiting skilled employees as well. Perhaps the “sunshine” is no longer enough to attract and keep good employees.

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[Pat2015]

Plenty of people haven’t missed a day of work throughout the pandemic. It’s not about feeling comfortable about going back to work at this point, it’s about getting paid to stay home and in some cases being paid more to stay home than go to work.

[Topspinmo]

If it's such a big deal to you, then be the change. Do for yourself. Stop supporting enterprises that hire foreigners. If you can't find any, then do the work yourself. If you don't like the color of the skin or the slant of the eye or the accent of your local supermarket cashier, then apply for a job there to prevent some OTHER person who looks or sounds different from you from getting the gig.

Not everyone comes from the same boat. There is no boat. We aren't being invaded. There have been "illegals" in the USA since before it WAS the USA. Anyone whose families came to this country before 1882 was UNdocumented. So that would make all their descendants "anchor babies" and anchor families. And anyone related to those UNdocumented immigrants who came over after them, chain migrants.

What's the most significant difference between those Europeans and the current batch of UNdocumented immigrants? The color of their skin and their accents, and the fact that the Europeans came over on boats, and the current batch is walking into the continent.

If you think that makes your ancestors or your next door neighbor's ancestors or your mom's hairdresser's brother-in-law's ancestors or any other white anglo ancestors better than the ones coming in from the southern border, then I have some property to sell you at the edge of the very last bit of land the Villages developer will ever build.

Anyone who came here before 1882? You do know that also applies to central and South America too?

[jimjamuser]

I believe in capitalism, so I think the wealth gap is fair. And, the highest income earners pay almost all of the Federal income tax, with the bottom half paying little or no Federal income tax.
A wealth gap IS fair as long as it is NOT excessive. In the US in the 50s and 60s the gap was small. Then about 1975 employees started to get the short end of the economic stick. Today the US has the highest wealth gap in the world not counting 3rd world nations. That is NOT FAIR or sustainable into the future. The US will either narrow that gap or fall into a dictatorship. I am sure that no one wants that life for their grandkids! The US does not have FAIR capitalism today - it has corporate fascism for a system.

[jimjamuser]

So, you’re saying LPN And CNA have no education? Wow! So I guess they got there diplomats from black market. I don’t agree with we, you maybe.

IMO healthcare worker’s in nursing home’s are rated pretty high in my book. One of last blue collar jobs left in smaller communities that hasn’t be shipped overseas.
I personally know people that work in nursing homes. They themselves are afraid that as they get old they may end up there. They would prefer the quality of a Japanese nursing home to a US one. At night ours are very understaffed. The people doing the hands-on, daily work there are lacking in conscientiousness. I doubt that on a world list for quality of nursing homes that the US would place in the top 25. When you look at world lists, the US was at the top around 1950, but now is around 30th in most qualities. It was downhill for the US starting around1975. Sorry to burst bubbles of jingoism.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The demand for workers far exceeds the supply. A labor shortage has been predicted for several years and it’s particularly problematic in The Villages where the local labor supply just hasn’t kept up with the growth and expansion. A shortage of labor has been a major issue for restaurants long before Covid because of the low wages and benefits. Florida is at or near the bottom of States on this issue of wages and benefits. It’s not only a problem for unskilled workers but also recruiting skilled employees as well. Perhaps the “sunshine” is no longer enough to attract and keep good employees.

Yup. When we moved here almost 2 years ago I knew I'd need to still work part time. Up north, I wouldn't EVER work for minimum wage, I haven't worked for minimum wage since the 1980's. And - I've been working entry level customer service jobs for almost all of the years between then and now.

I was never a high-wage earner, always near the bottom. But no one dictated my pay. I negotiated it, or I found a different job that would.

Down here, you are dictated your pay. If they're paying minimum wage, it doesn't matter how much experience you have. You get minimum wage, or you get nothing until something better comes along.

Part-timers are affected most, because part-timers get no health insurance coverage, no life insurance coverage, no paid days off, no paid sick time in Florida.

In MOST other states in the country, you get paid sick time. So that you don't show up to work coughing and sneezing simply because you can't afford to take a day off to recover.

I worked for one place when I first got here, and it was a pretty unhealthy environment. Their employee turnover was pretty much weekly, with the exception of a few core folks who'd been there for years and were used to the somewhat hostile attitude of the owner. We didn't get breaks, even if it was a 7-hour shift. We had to close the store alone at night. But they paid $11/hour to start, so I took it. I lasted several months, and then Publix called me for an interview. I'd applied when I first moved, so this was out of the blue, for me.

Publix started me at $13/hour stocking shelves and doing freight intake. It was too hard for me physically so I took an intentional demotion to the front end, where I was doing mostly bagging and sanitizing shopping carts. THAT was at $10.75/hour. Plus mandatory breaks, gift-card bonuses (ranging from $50 to $100, every quarter), and I picked up their dental plan for just $20/month for myself and my spouse. Not bad in a state that has an $8.65/hour minimum wage.

I would have quit the first job anyway, but I would -not- have traded it in for anyone who only paid me minimum wage. I'd rather be unemployed with NO income (including no unemployment check), than employed for people who don't demonstrate respect and appreciation for their employees. Sadly, this state (Florida) favors the employer, providing absolutely NO protections for the employee. Florida has no fair labor board, and no state labor laws other than those that pertain to minors.

Employees CAN be treated horribly in this state, and they have no recourse. If they complain, they're out of a job and can be blacklisted, because the state has given employers the green light to do so.

You better believe I'd rather take unemployment checks and PEUC ad-ons for 51 weeks if it was available when I quit that first job when I moved here. I'm glad it wasn't though, because I actually LIKED working for Publix and am grateful that they called me for the interview when they did. They saved me from the frustration of wanting to still work, but not willing to give up my dignity for the paycheck.

[Aces4]

I personally know people that work in nursing homes. They themselves are afraid that as they get old they may end up there. They would prefer the quality of a Japanese nursing home to a US one. At night ours are very understaffed. The people doing the hands-on, daily work there are lacking in conscientiousness. I doubt that on a world list for quality of nursing homes that the US would place in the top 25. When you look at world lists, the US was at the top around 1950, but now is around 30th in most qualities. It was downhill for the US starting around1975. Sorry to burst bubbles of jingoism.

Bahhh, not everyone lives in TV. I’ll agree there are some bad apples out there but methinks your brush is too wide.

[jimjamuser]

That’s funny... New Zealand and Australia and Bob Woodward. So why wouldn’t these fortuitous locations and individual share their vaccine with us immediately?
Read BETWEEN the lines of my post and you will have your answer.

[jimjamuser]

Don't forget all those landscapers, roofers, tree-cutters, and various other physical labor contractors. If they're not citizens, they shouldn't be working here.

Put your money where your mouth is and if your window guy comes to install a new window and he has a foreign accent, refuse to get the work done! If your TV breaks and the repairman comes and he has them thar funny eyes, tell him to take a hike, and buy a new TV! Those landscapers who work for Bright? Refuse to pay your amenity fees until they are replaced with Americans!

Oh wait - you want new windows, and you want your TV fixed, and you want the lawn mowed in front of the sign to your Vista De La Bella Sol Villa Villas, and the only people WILLING to do the job for what the bosses are paying them (without any health insurance, mind you) are brown-skinned ferriners? Well dad gummit then, I guess you might just have to move to an island and hire all your own people from now on.

Or fix your own danged TV.
Employers need to pay a living wage to CITIZENS. The employers AVOID paying a living wage by hiring non-citizens. It is a race DOWN the economic ladder. US employers have KILLED unions and brought in non-citizen SCABS. It is history repeating itself. The rich want to stay rich. They do so by holding others back. People in TV Land long for the 50s, 60s, and 70s and wonder WHY? The quality of life was higher when the population was around 250 million. That was BEFORE the big immigration onslaught of the 90s and early 2000s. I could keep up my explanation - if only more were interested.

[Aces4]

Yup. When we moved here almost 2 years ago I knew I'd need to still work part time. Up north, I wouldn't EVER work for minimum wage, I haven't worked for minimum wage since the 1980's. And - I've been working entry level customer service jobs for almost all of the years between then and now.

I was never a high-wage earner, always near the bottom. But no one dictated my pay. I negotiated it, or I found a different job that would.

Down here, you are dictated your pay. If they're paying minimum wage, it doesn't matter how much experience you have. You get minimum wage, or you get nothing until something better comes along.

Part-timers are affected most, because part-timers get no health insurance coverage, no life insurance coverage, no paid days off, no paid sick time in Florida.

In MOST other states in the country, you get paid sick time. So that you don't show up to work coughing and sneezing simply because you can't afford to take a day off to recover.

I worked for one place when I first got here, and it was a pretty unhealthy environment. Their employee turnover was pretty much weekly, with the exception of a few core folks who'd been there for years and were used to the somewhat hostile attitude of the owner. We didn't get breaks, even if it was a 7-hour shift. We had to close the store alone at night. But they paid $11/hour to start, so I took it. I lasted several months, and then Publix called me for an interview. I'd applied when I first moved, so this was out of the blue, for me.

Publix started me at $13/hour stocking shelves and doing freight intake. It was too hard for me physically so I took an intentional demotion to the front end, where I was doing mostly bagging and sanitizing shopping carts. THAT was at $10.75/hour. Plus mandatory breaks, gift-card bonuses (ranging from $50 to $100, every quarter), and I picked up their dental plan for just $20/month for myself and my spouse. Not bad in a state that has an $8.65/hour minimum wage.

I would have quit the first job anyway, but I would -not- have traded it in for anyone who only paid me minimum wage. I'd rather be unemployed with NO income (including no unemployment check), than employed for people who don't demonstrate respect and appreciation for their employees. Sadly, this state (Florida) favors the employer, providing absolutely NO protections for the employee. Florida has no fair labor board, and no state labor laws other than those that pertain to minors.

Employees CAN be treated horribly in this state, and they have no recourse. If they complain, they're out of a job and can be blacklisted, because the state has given employers the green light to do so.

You better believe I'd rather take unemployment checks and PEUC ad-ons for 51 weeks if it was available when I quit that first job when I moved here. I'm glad it wasn't though, because I actually LIKED working for Publix and am grateful that they called me for the interview when they did. They saved me from the frustration of wanting to still work, but not willing to give up my dignity for the paycheck.

You state that “Part-timers are affected most, because part-timers get no health insurance coverage, no life insurance coverage, no paid days off, no paid sick time in Florida.”

I’ll tell you right now, if all those premium benefits were available in this country for part-time, why work full-time? Are people aware of the number of full time employees working in smaller businesses who lost insurance coverages because of Obama Care and forced to buy poorer coverage out of their own pocket?

[Aces4]

Read BETWEEN the lines of my post and you will have your answer.

Your “between the lines” is your political bias and that is not allowed on this forum. I’ll pass.

[Kenswing]

I personally know people that work in nursing homes. They themselves are afraid that as they get old they may end up there. They would prefer the quality of a Japanese nursing home to a US one. At night ours are very understaffed. The people doing the hands-on, daily work there are lacking in conscientiousness. I doubt that on a world list for quality of nursing homes that the US would place in the top 25. When you look at world lists, the US was at the top around 1950, but now is around 30th in most qualities. It was downhill for the US starting around1975. Sorry to burst bubbles of jingoism.Yep.. Just like you know chefs that would go to competing restaurants to put a rubber glove in a salad. :ohdear:

[jimjamuser]

If it's such a big deal to you, then be the change. Do for yourself. Stop supporting enterprises that hire foreigners. If you can't find any, then do the work yourself. If you don't like the color of the skin or the slant of the eye or the accent of your local supermarket cashier, then apply for a job there to prevent some OTHER person who looks or sounds different from you from getting the gig.

Not everyone comes from the same boat. There is no boat. We aren't being invaded. There have been "illegals" in the USA since before it WAS the USA. Anyone whose families came to this country before 1882 was UNdocumented. So that would make all their descendants "anchor babies" and anchor families. And anyone related to those UNdocumented immigrants who came over after them, chain migrants.

What's the most significant difference between those Europeans and the current batch of UNdocumented immigrants? The color of their skin and their accents, and the fact that the Europeans came over on boats, and the current batch is walking into the continent.

If you think that makes your ancestors or your next door neighbor's ancestors or your mom's hairdresser's brother-in-law's ancestors or any other white anglo ancestors better than the ones coming in from the southern border, then I have some property to sell you at the edge of the very last bit of land the Villages developer will ever build.
Let me add another dimension to the argument. I believe in diversity. It is a numbers thing. Get a goldfish bowl and put 5 goldfish in. All are happy and well-fed. Put in 5 more. Then 5 more. Eventually, they will be fighting and dying because their QUALITY of LIFE has gone DOWN. Same for humans and the limiting resources of even a resource-rich country like the US. I believe that after about 250,000 people in the US, the quality of life started dropping. That is my theory. Immigrants are NOT bad people. Any kind, even blue-eyed Europeans are just non-citizens that are decreasing the quality of life. I would be happy if everyone were mixed. It is a population thing with me. Look at ALL PROBLEMS such as global warming - all problems are population problems in their most basic form. I don't expect agreement with my theory.

[jimjamuser]

Yep.. Just like you know chefs that would go to competing restaurants to put a rubber glove in a salad. :ohdear:
That was a joke, not to be taken literally.

[oldtimes]

Employers need to pay a living wage to CITIZENS. The employers AVOID paying a living wage by hiring non-citizens. It is a race DOWN the economic ladder. US employers have KILLED unions and brought in non-citizen SCABS. It is history repeating itself. The rich want to stay rich. They do so by holding others back. People in TV Land long for the 50s, 60s, and 70s and wonder WHY? The quality of life was higher when the population was around 250 million. That was BEFORE the big immigration onslaught of the 90s and early 2000s. I could keep up my explanation - if only more were interested.

The vast majority of businesses in the US are small businesses

[jimjamuser]

The vast majority of businesses in the US are small businesses
Yes, about 75%, I believe. And the sky is blue. But neither one has anything to do with my post that was referred to??????

[bobdeb]

I find it amusing, sad and pathetic that those leaning in a certain direction believe that Florida is led so horrifically.

I know first hand of part timers in Maine (a state strongly leaning in the opposite direction from Florida) who work on a ferry boat. We're talking adults here. They receive minimum wage and they have but one benefit. They get to ride on the damn thing they work on for one time for every 40 hours of work. Woo whoo baby.

And guess what? The company is short staffed due to the stimulus benefits and they are cutting back on shifts. There goes certain services to customers. Fewer ferries available. That's a bummer when you're trying to make an important appointment.

Maine is fast becoming another Minnesota. You decide for yourself if that's for better or for worse.

[bobdeb]

You can always head east to 95 North. There's a number of states up there where folks are bailing out now and heading elsewhere.

I challenge you to pull up a map as to what states are losing population. No surprises.

I'm done.

[FenneyGirl]

Well you missed a great meal! Why are you in rush? Aren’t you retired ? There is short help all over. We are lucky to have all these great restaurants here at The Villages but sometimes you just got to be patient.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

With all do respect your giving to much credit to today’s generation. I’m not painting every kid with the same brush but believe me nobody and I mean nobody will ever get caught lying on an unemployment application. It’s run by the government 😂😂😂

You can't even apply for Unemployment in Florida right now. Not even for legitimate reasons without the PEUC benefit. Their site is down. This has been a problem for a few years now, since they implemented their new "improved" system. Huge scandal 2 years ago, the accusation is that it was on purpose to keep people from applying at all.

There are thousands of legitimately unemployed people in Florida, who SHOULD be collecting unemployment, who can't even apply for it. And others who have applied for it, but their applications are "lost" in the system. They can't re-apply because the system sees that there's an application already in for them. But the application can't be processed. It can't be approved or rejected. It's just stuck in limbo. HUNDREDS of Floridians are affected in that particular way.

There are also those who have been rejected in error - people whose companies were closed down and therefore they were laid off, had earned enough income in the previous year to qualify to collect, but their application was rejected anyway. HUNDREDS of people in that situation.

There are also people who were approved, who should not have been approved. HUNDREDS of people who are collecting, who applied honestly, but their applications should have been rejected.

There are also people who were approved, yet haven't ever received any unemployment checks at all even though they qualify for them. HUNDREDS of people in that situation.

Don't any of you people watch anything other than fox news and breitbart? This is a pretty serious problem in Florida and it's been going on for years, and the pandemic situation has exacerbated it.

[bobdeb]

Any of you people? Ouch. Hopefully, some day we could all be so enlightened.

Like CNN who lied about DeSantis giving vaccine preferences to Publix due to political donations?

Get off the MSM misinformation and misleading messages. You know there's some 20ish tidepods filtering your comments on the internet, right?

Note to millennials, you took out a loan. Pay it back. Student loan dept solved. Oh, your degree in some obscure major might have impressed some folks back when but there's no market for that now. Pay it back.

I don't like any news media who has a biased agenda.

[jimjamuser]

Yup. When we moved here almost 2 years ago I knew I'd need to still work part time. Up north, I wouldn't EVER work for minimum wage, I haven't worked for minimum wage since the 1980's. And - I've been working entry level customer service jobs for almost all of the years between then and now.

I was never a high-wage earner, always near the bottom. But no one dictated my pay. I negotiated it, or I found a different job that would.

Down here, you are dictated your pay. If they're paying minimum wage, it doesn't matter how much experience you have. You get minimum wage, or you get nothing until something better comes along.

Part-timers are affected most, because part-timers get no health insurance coverage, no life insurance coverage, no paid days off, no paid sick time in Florida.

In MOST other states in the country, you get paid sick time. So that you don't show up to work coughing and sneezing simply because you can't afford to take a day off to recover.

I worked for one place when I first got here, and it was a pretty unhealthy environment. Their employee turnover was pretty much weekly, with the exception of a few core folks who'd been there for years and were used to the somewhat hostile attitude of the owner. We didn't get breaks, even if it was a 7-hour shift. We had to close the store alone at night. But they paid $11/hour to start, so I took it. I lasted several months, and then Publix called me for an interview. I'd applied when I first moved, so this was out of the blue, for me.

Publix started me at $13/hour stocking shelves and doing freight intake. It was too hard for me physically so I took an intentional demotion to the front end, where I was doing mostly bagging and sanitizing shopping carts. THAT was at $10.75/hour. Plus mandatory breaks, gift-card bonuses (ranging from $50 to $100, every quarter), and I picked up their dental plan for just $20/month for myself and my spouse. Not bad in a state that has an $8.65/hour minimum wage.

I would have quit the first job anyway, but I would -not- have traded it in for anyone who only paid me minimum wage. I'd rather be unemployed with NO income (including no unemployment check), than employed for people who don't demonstrate respect and appreciation for their employees. Sadly, this state (Florida) favors the employer, providing absolutely NO protections for the employee. Florida has no fair labor board, and no state labor laws other than those that pertain to minors.

Employees CAN be treated horribly in this state, and they have no recourse. If they complain, they're out of a job and can be blacklisted, because the state has given employers the green light to do so.

You better believe I'd rather take unemployment checks and PEUC ad-ons for 51 weeks if it was available when I quit that first job when I moved here. I'm glad it wasn't though, because I actually LIKED working for Publix and am grateful that they called me for the interview when they did. They saved me from the frustration of wanting to still work, but not willing to give up my dignity for the paycheck.
Florida IS a bit backward. It is a right-to-work state - aka right to be screwed as an employee.

[jimjamuser]

I find it amusing, sad and pathetic that those leaning in a certain direction believe that Florida is led so horrifically.

I know first hand of part timers in Maine (a state strongly leaning in the opposite direction from Florida) who work on a ferry boat. We're talking adults here. They receive minimum wage and they have but one benefit. They get to ride on the damn thing they work on for one time for every 40 hours of work. Woo whoo baby.

And guess what? The company is short staffed due to the stimulus benefits and they are cutting back on shifts. There goes certain services to customers. Fewer ferries available. That's a bummer when you're trying to make an important appointment.

Maine is fast becoming another Minnesota. You decide for yourself if that's for better or for worse.
Maine has a CV outbreak right now. Young people have been leaving Maine for the last 10 years. I believe that they wanted higher pay and more social life.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Maine has a CV outbreak right now. Young people have been leaving Maine for the last 10 years. I believe that they wanted higher pay and more social life.

And guess where they're NOT moving to:

Florida.

[bobdeb]

I was wrong about CNN and lying about DeSantis and Publix. It was in fact "60 Minutes" on CBS.

Very shoddy journalism.

[bobdeb]

And guess where they're NOT moving to:

Florida.

No, that's reserved for the folks bailing out of Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Michigan, Massachusetts, Maryland to name a few.

Gee, do these states have anything in common?

[Aces4]

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;1931853]And guess where they're NOT moving to:

Florida.[/QUOTE



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[Kenswing]

And guess where they're NOT moving to:

Florida.
Somebody's moving to Florida. When we started to plan our move to The Villages a 26' U-Haul truck was being quoted at $2,800 from WA - FL. One month later the same truck was $6,990. I called U-haul to verify that pricing. The customer service rep told me to look at the same truck on the same dates but instead search from FL - WA. Price was $1,100. He said all of their equipment is stacking up in TX and FL. So someone is obviously moving there. Must be all us old farts.. :1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

Well you missed a great meal! Why are you in rush? Aren’t you retired ? There is short help all over. We are lucky to have all these great restaurants here at The Villages but sometimes you just got to be patient.
Throughout my whole life, I always saw eating out at restaurants as a waste of BOTH time and money. As a child, I hated it when my parents took me to a restaurant. As a youngster, I even disliked the boring time spent at my own family's dinner table. I would have rather grabbed a sandwich and eaten it while watching TV or outside on the front porch or playing baseball. As an adult, I never saw any beauty or redeeming value in the "so-called" dining out experience. It leaves me cold. I could handle the fast-food experience even though the food lacks nutrition. I never, NEVER wait in a vehicle line for a take-out order - that whole experience, I consider de-humanizing. I can sit inside a coffee shop and drink coffee and talk to friends, but I would prefer to be sitting on a blanket by a lake or at a beach. I can enjoy a bar atmosphere with music, dancing, and alcoholic beverages, even for long hours. That is exciting to me. Spending an hour or more just eating out is boring to me, no action, no excitement, just boring! If there were ZERO restaurants in TV Land I would not be the least put-off! I gladly give up my time and seat at the table to someone else.

[jimjamuser]

You can't even apply for Unemployment in Florida right now. Not even for legitimate reasons without the PEUC benefit. Their site is down. This has been a problem for a few years now, since they implemented their new "improved" system. Huge scandal 2 years ago, the accusation is that it was on purpose to keep people from applying at all.

There are thousands of legitimately unemployed people in Florida, who SHOULD be collecting unemployment, who can't even apply for it. And others who have applied for it, but their applications are "lost" in the system. They can't re-apply because the system sees that there's an application already in for them. But the application can't be processed. It can't be approved or rejected. It's just stuck in limbo. HUNDREDS of Floridians are affected in that particular way.

There are also those who have been rejected in error - people whose companies were closed down and therefore they were laid off, had earned enough income in the previous year to qualify to collect, but their application was rejected anyway. HUNDREDS of people in that situation.

There are also people who were approved, who should not have been approved. HUNDREDS of people who are collecting, who applied honestly, but their applications should have been rejected.

There are also people who were approved, yet haven't ever received any unemployment checks at all even though they qualify for them. HUNDREDS of people in that situation.

Don't any of you people watch anything other than fox news and breitbart? This is a pretty serious problem in Florida and it's been going on for years, and the pandemic situation has exacerbated it.
That was a good public service thing to point out the problems that Florida has with unemployment checks. Florida could be characterized as sort of a "slow-learner" among states. I wonder how the achievement test scores for Florida high school seniors would compare up against say Connecticut, New York, California, or even Nebraska? Just asking!

[Topspinmo]

Throughout my whole life, I always saw eating out at restaurants as a waste of BOTH time and money. As a child, I hated it when my parents took me to a restaurant. As a youngster, I even disliked the boring time spent at my own family's dinner table. I would have rather grabbed a sandwich and eaten it while watching TV or outside on the front porch or playing baseball. As an adult, I never saw any beauty or redeeming value in the "so-called" dining out experience. It leaves me cold. I could handle the fast-food experience even though the food lacks nutrition. I never, NEVER wait in a vehicle line for a take-out order - that whole experience, I consider de-humanizing. I can sit inside a coffee shop and drink coffee and talk to friends, but I would prefer to be sitting on a blanket by a lake or at a beach. I can enjoy a bar atmosphere with music, dancing, and alcoholic beverages, even for long hours. That is exciting to me. Spending an hour or more just eating out is boring to me, no action, no excitement, just boring! If there were ZERO restaurants in TV Land I would not be the least put-off! I gladly give up my time and seat at the table to someone else.


Most have no choice, they can’t cook 👨*🍳. Some won’t cook.

[JoeinFL]

Just wondering. How many people on here are bitching about people collecting unemployment, received a stimulus check?
Can you say “double standard “?

[jimjamuser]

Most have no choice, they can’t cook 👨*🍳. Some won’t cook.
You can put almost anything (short of an old sock) into a crockpot or pressure cooker and " WA-LA in several hours you have a masterpiece of culinary perfection - equal to or better than most restaurants when you factor in the wasted hours of your precious lifetime.

[Debfrommaine]

You are extremely naïve or just plain stupid, if you don't understand the implications of extended and increased unemployment benefits. The people can stay on unemployment if they feel unsafe to go back to work, and on top of that, they received a bonus that might come close to doubling their pay! No it is not a local issue, it is a federal government mandate so Florida just can't end it. Yes it is political because we have morons running the system. This is here until 2024 and maybe longer.
Retired person I know with great ssi and pension is enjoying being laid off from a pt job and now collecting unemployment even tho doesn't need it they say. Grrrrrr

[Aces4]

Just wondering. How many people on here are bitching about people collecting unemployment, received a stimulus check?
Can you say “double standard “?

Can you say “poor analogy”? We didn’t get a stimulus check every week or two weeks nor did we receive a stimulus check in addition to an unemployment check. So your bitching remark doesn’t add up.

[JoeinFL]

Can you say “poor analogy”? We didn’t get a stimulus check every week or two weeks nor did we receive a stimulus check in addition to an unemployment check. So your bitching remark doesn’t add up.


If you read through the entire thread. It would add up. Perhaps you did and just can’t add?
Btw, I haven’t received any stimulus checks. And never had the need for unemployment payments.

[RICH1]

After 12 pages of words of wisdom and many days later, the lobby is still closed, the cars idle in line for the overrated butterburger, and still no definitive answer on Culver-nomics in The Villages!

[Tmarkwald]

I was told by an employee that many of the employees have Covid and therefore they have a lot of employees not working and therefore can only keep the drive thru open.

That sounds like a serious case of BS.

[Tmarkwald]

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Well you missed a great meal! Why are you in rush? Aren’t you retired ? There is short help all over. We are lucky to have all these great restaurants here at The Villages but sometimes you just got to be patient.

Well, we gotta wait until the money runs out and possibly 2022/2024 before we go back to an environment where people work and get paid, rather than procreate and get paid...

[Tmarkwald]

Just wondering. How many people on here are bitching about people collecting unemployment, received a stimulus check?
Can you say “double standard “?

If you file 2020 taxes, and are under the threshold, you are getting the stimulus check whether you want it or not. There is no way to 'OPT-OUT'....

[bobdeb]

They all have really nasty cold winters (including Maryland, which is nasty and cold, but not as long as the other states). Northern residents retiring to southern climates is kind of a thing. There are actually entire retirement communities in the southern states. Like Florida, for example! And - they've been around since before YOU were old enough to forget that little slice of data!

Well that cold, nasty weather certainly explains why folks are bailing out of California for Texas.

Whatever gets you through the night...

It is however, due greatly to taxes, cost of living, poorly run states going bankrupt, crime, opportunity, it goes on.

[Tmarkwald]

I think that Culvers is doing the public a service by saying, "Hey, we don't have enough help but we will serve you the best we can". Rather than let you order, pay and sit forever waiting on your food.

I agree, But I have to add that I still work. I enjoy going to Culver's, with my laptop, placing my order and waiting even an hour for my food. I continue to work, etc. Something I cannot do comfortably in the parking lot in my vehicle.

So, I have to find other places to go to.

Yesterday, while going through South Carolina ( I do every other week in TV) I TRIED to do a walk-in for breakfast. I got off at 3 different exits and everywhere were horrible long lines for drive throughs. Nobody had any dining rooms open, everyone had HELP WANTED banners in the windows (thanks,,,uh,, you know, we gotta print money because of 'the thing''.. uh uh ).

The only place with sit downs were Cracker Barrel and Waffle House, both of which has 20 or more standing outside waiting.

Is it no wonder that only places where TIPPING is allowed has waiters and waitresses?

[Tmarkwald]

Well said. We used to be a very self reliant society but the govt decided it knows best how to spend our money.
Now, if I could figure out some way to liquidate accounts without getting killed on taxes I'd be fortunate.

Because I can see the tax hikes coming. Someone has to pay for all this stuff. I'm so tempted .....