Green fees increase for Month of May

[forebubba]

Summer season greens fees used to be May 1 till October 15th
Then it went from May 1 till September 30
Then they combined Summer and Fall raising the summer rate and lowering the fall rate. An increase but not real bad.
Yes costs go up
Now the winter season rate will continue until June 1
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $20 to $30 higher in the afternoon wave (priority and resident)
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $13 to $22 higher in the morning wave.
As a priority member I will not play the championship courses in May. playing twice a week that is a $160 increase.
I will play the execs and venture outside the Villages.
What is next, Winter season starts November this year too?

Example: World Woods, rated on the top 10 in Florida is $35 including lunch in May.
A 4 some will save $68 which will pay for gas
My choice yes, My protest.

[drcar]

Summer season greens fees used to be May 1 till October 15th
Then it went from May 1 till September 30
Then they combined Summer and Fall raising the summer rate and lowering the fall rate. An increase but not real bad.
Yes costs go up
Now the winter season rate will continue until June 1
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $20 to $30 higher in the afternoon wave (priority and resident)
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $13 to $22 higher in the morning wave.
As a priority member I will not play the championship courses in May. playing twice a week that is a $160 increase.
I will play the execs and venture outside the Villages.
What is next, Winter season starts November this year too?

Example: World Woods, rated on the top 10 in Florida is $35 including lunch in May.
A 4 some will save $68 which will pay for gas
My choice yes, My protest.

Let us know how the protest works

[Dana1963]

Summer season greens fees used to be May 1 till October 15th
Then it went from May 1 till September 30
Then they combined Summer and Fall raising the summer rate and lowering the fall rate. An increase but not real bad.
Yes costs go up
Now the winter season rate will continue until June 1
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $20 to $30 higher in the afternoon wave (priority and resident)
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $13 to $22 higher in the morning wave.
As a priority member I will not play the championship courses in May. playing twice a week that is a $160 increase.
I will play the execs and venture outside the Villages.
What is next, Winter season starts November this year too?

Example: World Woods, rated on the top 10 in Florida is $35 including lunch in May.
A 4 some will save $68 which will pay for gas
My choice yes, My protest.
Finally someone got smart CONGRATULATIONS and success on your decision.

[JGVillages]

summer season greens fees used to be may 1 till october 15th
then it went from may 1 till september 30
then they combined summer and fall raising the summer rate and lowering the fall rate. An increase but not real bad.
Yes costs go up
now the winter season rate will continue until june 1
green fees for may compared to last year will be $20 to $30 higher in the afternoon wave (priority and resident)
green fees for may compared to last year will be $13 to $22 higher in the morning wave.
as a priority member i will not play the championship courses in may. Playing twice a week that is a $160 increase.
I will play the execs and venture outside the villages.
What is next, winter season starts november this year too?

Example: World woods, rated on the top 10 in florida is $35 including lunch in may.
A 4 some will save $68 which will pay for gas
my choice yes, my protest.

obviously the additional revenue is being applied to maintenance of the courses?????????????????

[justjim]

If you live in The Villages, we are “rich” so I hear... Op, most golfers will likely take the increase “in stride” because of the convenience. Given the increase championship course golfers have choices to make.

[rjn5656]

Lot of nice golf outside of the villages.

[Celebrator]

As a priority member who plays 4 times per week and has endured the increased rates and less than good conditions on some courses until this latest change, I have decided to golf Villages courses 2 times per week and play off site once per week. Our group of 20 which plays one day per week voted to go off site. Perhaps this will only open up times for other golfers but it just shows that when even loyal Village golfers feel they are not being treated fairly they will look elsewhere. When conditions improve, we will reassess our decision. We all hope changes are made.

[GoPacers]

Many of the courses are in bad shape because there is simply too much play. Raising rates is one way to cut back on the play without losing revenue.

Not sure that's what they are doing but our group went outside the villages because the courses are in rough shape. We'll come back when the courses are in better shape.

[Andyb]

In line with what is happening in our country today. It is the world for the elitist only.

[swooner]

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!

[golfing eagles]

In line with what is happening in our country today. It is the world for the elitist only.

Great!!!! Let's turn a May greens fee increase thread into one on class warfare. Ever wonder how threads get off track?

[paulajr]

I hope you complained just as loudly last Fall when the less expensive Summer rates continued instead of the more expensive Fall Rates....

[jabacon6669]

This is terrible, greed at work. Who decides this? This will turn many people off to golf. And, will turn many to the Executive courses which are already over booked and taking a beating. I for one love golf, and play 3 times per week. I am a priority member. Thats roughly $700, plus 150 x $47 = $7050 + the $700 = 7750. granted you save a little in the summer, but not that much. Then how about your monthly amenities fee which has to include something for the executive courses. I don't play the executive courses but still pay. I bet a good $100 of that fee goes to support the executives. And I'm saving on trail fees, but you have to figure in the fact you bought a golf cart, so pro-rate some of that. Ouch. So, I figure, I must be paying around 9K for golf here. Someone is just trying to drain you. I could join a lot of privates for far less than that. I might think about that.

[Fastskiguy]

Example: World Woods, rated on the top 10 in Florida is $35 including lunch in May.
A 4 some will save $68 which will pay for gas
My choice yes, My protest.

Thanks for the World Woods tip, it's only another 20 minutes farther than Nancy Lopez for us living down south. It looks spectacular and is a lot cheaper too!

[wamley]

Played World Woods last month. Greens were beautiful, but the rest not so much. Meet friends from down south to play a round. Its about about 1/2 hour from here. Happen we had two threesomes and a member joined us. He said the course is in transition from old meembers t o an attempt to attract younger members. Everything is dated. He said their working on one thing at a time, greens obviously the first thing and they were great. I wouldn't want to drive the 30- 40 inutes to play it though on any regular basis.

[Billy1]

I can't believe how much money we have, to be taken from us.

[dewilson58]

This is terrible, greed at work. Who decides this? This will turn many people off to golf. And, will turn many to the Executive courses which are already over booked and taking a beating. I for one love golf, and play 3 times per week. I am a priority member. Thats roughly $700, plus 150 x $47 = $7050 + the $700 = 7750. granted you save a little in the summer, but not that much. Then how about your monthly amenities fee which has to include something for the executive courses. I don't play the executive courses but still pay. I bet a good $100 of that fee goes to support the executives. And I'm saving on trail fees, but you have to figure in the fact you bought a golf cart, so pro-rate some of that. Ouch. So, I figure, I must be paying around 9K for golf here. Someone is just trying to drain you. I could join a lot of privates for far less than that. I might think about that.

You look like a Newbie................when did you move to TV & how much has rates gone up??

[rlcooper70]

I think we have to be careful to keep being thankful for what we have here in TV .... going off site makes sense ..... and yet if TV feels there is so much demand as to warrant the increase then that's just capitalism. Free country.

[OhioBuckeye]

The older things get the sooner they need more maintenance. Hope TV doesn’t start charging for the Executive Courses!

[Lakeside5012]

T
Inflation.

[forebubba]

I hope you complained just as loudly last Fall when the less expensive Summer rates continued instead of the more expensive Fall Rates....
Do the Math...It was an overall price increase

[forebubba]

You look like a Newbie................when did you move to TV & how much has rates gone up??I
I have been coming here since 2001
Bought in 2006

[collie1228]

I have always been of the opinion that the convenience of playing golf at the championship courses was worth some extra cost, so I've played them twice a week for the nine years I've been here. And I've been reasonably happy to do so. Now, I'm not so sure. My priority membership is up for renewal in July, so I have a decision to make. The OP is correct that the rates have been going up substantially over the past couple of years, and I believe that several of the golf courses are in disgraceful condition. In the end I'll probably bite the bullet and keep playing in The Villages. But I don't like it, and believe the third generation is showing its greed in a misplaced way. Some people will stop supporting them, and whether it affects their business is anyone's guess.

[riamd1954]

That’s crazy

[tophcfa]

I hope you complained just as loudly last Fall when the less expensive Summer rates continued instead of the more expensive Fall Rates....

You are twisting what actually happened last year. They combined the summer and fall season into one, resulting in higher summer rates and slightly lower fall rates. They also eliminated the unlimited play after 1:00 that previously existed. Then this year, for the first time, they included May as a very high priced winter month. Who only knows what unpleasant surprises will be coming our way when the new rates are released sometime in the next month?

[dewilson58]

I
I have been coming here since 2001
Bought in 2006
Good 4 U, but I didn't ask.
:loco:

[jbrown132]

Summer season greens fees used to be May 1 till October 15th
Then it went from May 1 till September 30
Then they combined Summer and Fall raising the summer rate and lowering the fall rate. An increase but not real bad.
Yes costs go up
Now the winter season rate will continue until June 1
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $20 to $30 higher in the afternoon wave (priority and resident)
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $13 to $22 higher in the morning wave.
As a priority member I will not play the championship courses in May. playing twice a week that is a $160 increase.
I will play the execs and venture outside the Villages.
What is next, Winter season starts November this year too?

Example: World Woods, rated on the top 10 in Florida is $35 including lunch in May.
A 4 some will save $68 which will pay for gas
My choice yes, My protest.

I agree, but get use to it. The know they have a captive audience that will not venture far. Would not mind it if they put money back into the courses but that does mot happen often. They never roll the greens, there is more sand in the traps than there is at the beach and little grass on the fairways if anyone during winter. The golf courses here are average at best and the rates are high. At certain times of the year there are much better deals and better conditions outside The Villages. It all about greed.

[blueash]

It seems that golf is a lower priority for the ownership team as shown by how many fewer courses they include in the newer areas. Once they decide that golf is not an essential ingredient in home sales and marketing shows no need to have championship courses to continue positive cash flow...

If you owned say a couple hundred holes of high maintenance grass that could be replaced with several thousand houses for sale.. hmm. Perhaps the poor conditions and increased costs are part of a nefarious plan to make the courses expendable. Win for you golfers who find the off site options better, and win for the Morse family who get to stop taking care of grass and sell more houses.

[Jokomo]

Thanks for the World Woods tip, it's only another 20 minutes farther than Nancy Lopez for us living down south. It looks spectacular and is a lot cheaper too!

Try Juliette Falls in Dunellen. Excellent condition, cheaper than TV.
Or Citrus Hills or Skyview. Excellent condition, cheaper than TV. Or Red Tail by Eustis. Or even Harbor Hills, 5 miles or so east of 466/27 intersection . Cheaper and usually in better shape. Or Deer Island Tavares. Or any of the Ocala courses. Not all are cheaper, but all are in better shape.

Villagers are not getting good value for their golf dollar.

[tophcfa]

It seems that golf is a lower priority for the ownership team as shown by how many fewer courses they include in the newer areas. Once they decide that golf is not an essential ingredient in home sales and marketing shows no need to have championship courses to continue positive cash flow...

If you owned say a couple hundred holes of high maintenance grass that could be replaced with several thousand houses for sale.. hmm. Perhaps the poor conditions and increased costs are part of a nefarious plan to make the courses expendable. Win for you golfers who find the off site options better, and win for the Morse family who get to stop taking care of grass and sell more houses.

The golf courses are designed as emergency flood plains, so they are seemingly protected from development. That does not mean they couldn’t be converted into some other form of recreational activities, but not homesites. The clubhouses on the other hand have been proven to be fair game. Who knows, some day whenever one pulls up to a Championship course, they could be greeted by a high rise rental apartment complex and the pro shop is nothing but a starter shack?

[laboutj]

It seems that golf is a lower priority for the ownership team as shown by how many fewer courses they include in the newer areas. Once they decide that golf is not an essential ingredient in home sales and marketing shows no need to have championship courses to continue positive cash flow...

If you owned say a couple hundred holes of high maintenance grass that could be replaced with several thousand houses for sale.. hmm. Perhaps the poor conditions and increased costs are part of a nefarious plan to make the courses expendable. Win for you golfers who find the off site options better, and win for the Morse family who get to stop taking care of grass and sell more houses.

Bingo!

There are plenty of access points to make streets and entire new neighborhoods where the country clubs are located.

[tophcfa]

Try Juliette Falls in Dunellen. Excellent condition, cheaper than TV.
Or Citrus Hills or Skyview. Excellent condition, cheaper than TV. Or Red Tail by Eustis. Or even Harbor Hills, 5 miles or so east of 466/27 intersection . Cheaper and usually in better shape. Or Deer Island Tavares. Or any of the Ocala courses. Not all are cheaper, but all are in better shape.

Villagers are not getting good value for their golf dollar.

Do all of the off campus courses you referenced take T-Times? My wife and I ventured outside the bubble to play at Baseline in Ocala, but they don’t take T-Times. We won’t be returning there as there was about an hour and 45 minute wait.

[virtualcynthia]

Stop telling people. My husband will have a harder time getting tee times for his group. 😁😁.

[Janie123]

I live on a city owned course in Denver, green fees are $65 during the week and $75 on the weekend... I'm thrilled when I can come to the Villages in the winter and save money on some great golf courses.... Go to Scottsdale in the winter, you'll be paying $100+

If the tee times in TV are 80-90% capacity, they are charging just the right amount. 100% all the time, economics (supply and demand) say raise the rates, 50% capacity, lower the rates... do you think these people that run this place are idiots???

[Fischer]

Is that leaving the heat on JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN. give us all a break!!

[tophcfa]

I live on a city owned course in Denver, green fees are $65 during the week and $75 on the weekend... I'm thrilled when I can come to the Villages in the winter and save money on some great golf courses.... Go to Scottsdale in the winter, you'll be paying $100+

If the tee times in TV are 80-90% capacity, they are charging just the right amount. 100% all the time, economics (supply and demand) say raise the rates, 50% capacity, lower the rates... do you think these people that run this place are idiots???

You are absolutely correct, supply and demand dictates the ability to charge a higher rate. The people that run this place have purposely created a favorable supply and demand situation to support price increases by building a crapload of new houses since Belle Glade opened (the last Championship course to open), without adding a single new hole of Championship golf. Where we live during the summer, it is a different dynamic because the population of old retired people is small relative to the general population. We can play really nice courses during weekdays, with the senior citizen discount, for between $28 - $42 with a cart. The only hitch is you have to get out early enough to make the turn before the horn sounds and the working folks slide down the dinosaurs tail and rush to the courses for leagues. The same courses cost $55 - $75 to play on weekends, unless you go out after 3 PM on Sundays. It's all supply and demand driven.

[stebooo]

I try to play mostly off-campus.the problem for golfers is there is no championship course south of brownwood. So all that pent up demand or a golf course push north. The developer owns ll the championship courses.

[Neils]

Play more and they will build more courses. Supply and demand

Protest and abandon the courses?? Guess what will happen.

[donassaid]

Apparently, a billion dollars just doesn't go as far as it used to so the Developer needs the extra greens fees for an additional month.

[donassaid]

Exactly how are you saving money when the Winter rates in The Villages are $64?

[hrydzik]

1:05 one way from the Village of Sanibel. Longer if going from Nancy Lopez.

[jarodrig]

Summer season greens fees used to be May 1 till October 15th
Then it went from May 1 till September 30
Then they combined Summer and Fall raising the summer rate and lowering the fall rate. An increase but not real bad.
Yes costs go up
Now the winter season rate will continue until June 1
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $20 to $30 higher in the afternoon wave (priority and resident)
Green fees for May compared to last year will be $13 to $22 higher in the morning wave.
As a priority member I will not play the championship courses in May. playing twice a week that is a $160 increase.
I will play the execs and venture outside the Villages.
What is next, Winter season starts November this year too?

Example: World Woods, rated on the top 10 in Florida is $35 including lunch in May.
A 4 some will save $68 which will pay for gas
My choice yes, My protest.

Thank you for not wanting to play in The Villages......

That makes more tee time as available for us that do !! :icon_wink:

[paultkdski]

And think you should-

[vintageogauge]

Bingo!

There are plenty of access points to make streets and entire new neighborhoods where the country clubs are located.

Or apartments.

[Dorebea]

I try to play mostly off-campus.the problem for golfers is there is no championship course south of brownwood. So all that pent up demand or a golf course push north. The developer owns ll the championship courses.

There is a new CC course coming down by the new Sawgrass rec area.

[EviesGP]

I just wish they would put more effort in their fairways?!!! Working the golf courses here, I understand how much they get beat up, but I'd really like them to work on the concrete fairways(WATER!), so an average golfer like me, doesn't have to struggle to get the ball off the ground?! And then, to pay the higher prices(not currently employed, so no discount), for this is not worth it for me! Definitely, going outside the bubble, for much better rates, and sometimes extremely better conditions! Cheers!

[Pairadocs]

The golf courses are designed as emergency flood plains, so they are seemingly protected from development. That does not mean they couldn’t be converted into some other form of recreational activities, but not homesites. The clubhouses on the other hand have been proven to be fair game. Who knows, some day whenever one pulls up to a Championship course, they could be greeted by a high rise rental apartment complex and the pro shop is nothing but a starter shack?

I think that is very possible; there was a time I would have thought that such a ridiculous statement that it wasn't worth even taking up print, now something tells me it is completely possible, that golf courses, designated as flood areas could, with the right moves (and possibly the right persuasion or incentive, or the "right" people are in office) could indeed make it possible to subdivide courses and sell as lots.... been here long enough to know anything is possible, including high rise apartments, and anything else that fuels the business. Yes, it's capitalism at it's most efficient and effective mode for sure.

[Pairadocs]

I just wish they would put more effort in their fairways?!!! Working the golf courses here, I understand how much they get beat up, but I'd really like them to work on the concrete fairways(WATER!), so an average golfer like me, doesn't have to struggle to get the ball off the ground?! And then, to pay the higher prices(not currently employed, so no discount), for this is not worth it for me! Definitely, going outside the bubble, for much better rates, and sometimes extremely better conditions! Cheers!

By working at times on the courses, do you agree that the "marshals" which they insist on calling "ambassadors" here are instructed to be so absolutely blind to the abuse that goes on that it is almost unbelievable ANY course, private, semi-private, and public park district course would put up with the things that go on here ! ! Stepping into and out a trap at the VERY highest point, stepping right ON the HOLE when taking out or putting in the pin, rakes thrown anywhere, players not making any attempt to rake, and driving a cart RIGHT onto an apron is not uncommon, slow play is never given a warning, it truly is unbelievable what is tolerated here in the name of being "the friendly golf community". I am sure we would all be horrified at how much $$ we could save in maintenance if marshals were polite but FIRM with members and guests ! If members were given a certain agreed on number of warnings and then lost golfing privileges. Sure they pay amenity fees too, but, does paying my amenity fees entitle me to destroy golf course traps, greens ? To destroy pools, rec center furniture, drive through gate arms ? A little more attention and firm, not harsh, FIRM, hand would save a GREAT DEAL.

[Laker14]

You are absolutely correct, supply and demand dictates the ability to charge a higher rate. The people that run this place have purposely created a favorable supply and demand situation to support price increases by building a crapload of new houses since Belle Glade opened (the last Championship course to open), without adding a single new hole of Championship golf. Where we live during the summer, it is a different dynamic because the population of old retired people is small relative to the general population. We can play really nice courses during weekdays, with the senior citizen discount, for between $28 - $42 with a cart. The only hitch is you have to get out early enough to make the turn before the horn sounds and the working folks slide down the dinosaurs tail and rush to the courses for leagues. The same courses cost $55 - $75 to play on weekends, unless you go out after 3 PM on Sundays. It's all supply and demand driven.

You make several excellent points. My golfing buddies and I were talking just yesterday about how there are 9 championship courses from 466A going north, and only 3 from 466A going south, at this point. I play championship courses twice a week. Priority member. I go north for about 5 months a year, so I get the priority for 6 months, November-April.

I'll spare everyone the itemized math, but for 6 months (the prime months of golf in TV), playing 2x/week, with priority membership, totals about 3250, which averages about $63/ round. Not dirt cheap, but not excessive, IMO.

Conditions aren't in line with top level private country clubs, but I'd be paying many times more per round for that luxury, including paying dues, assessments, initiation fees, restaurant minimums, etc. even for the months I'm up north.

As far as the "golfing experience" here, I'm happy with it. Courses are not overly crowded, and pace-of-play has been rarely a problem, and frankly, sometimes when it has been, it may have been our group that was responsible, and I appreciate the gentle push to keep up moving. It saves me the trouble of being the one to tell the slowpoke in our group to speed it up. All season long, I heard it once. One time in six months and we were politely informed to pick up our pace, and I was happy about it, because one of my group, while we struggling to keep pace, was hawking balls out of a water hazard.

As far as conditions, I agree, they aren't great, and at Havana, they were beyond horrible the one time I played it, but generally, we just "move them everywhere, place them in the bunkers" and move on. We are not playing for big money, and I'm cool with that. I've belonged to , and played at many private clubs in my life, and very few of them were in pristine shape.

One more point about the clubs that offer cheap deals. They are generally doing it out of desperation. There are a ton of clubs right on the edge of financial non-viability, and these bargain deals are their way to just barely stay afloat. It's the reality of golf right now. It costs enough to maintain a course, that many people aren't willing to pay what it costs per round to support it, so clubs have to cut corners when it comes to maintenance, and lower green fees just stay open. Every year, where I go in the summer, there seems to be another club that has closed up. So I wouldn't necessarily look at those super cheap greens fees as the ideal business model for the courses here in TV.

[eyc234]

You make several excellent points. My golfing buddies and I were talking just yesterday about how there are 9 championship courses from 466A going north, and only 3 from 466A going south, at this point. I play championship courses twice a week. Priority member. I go north for about 5 months a year, so I get the priority for 6 months, November-April.

I'll spare everyone the itemized math, but for 6 months (the prime months of golf in TV), playing 2x/week, with priority membership, totals about 3250, which averages about $63/ round. Not dirt cheap, but not excessive, IMO.

Conditions aren't in line with top level private country clubs, but I'd be paying many times more per round for that luxury, including paying dues, assessments, initiation fees, restaurant minimums, etc. even for the months I'm up north.

As far as the "golfing experience" here, I'm happy with it. Courses are not overly crowded, and pace-of-play has been rarely a problem, and frankly, sometimes when it has been, it may have been our group that was responsible, and I appreciate the gentle push to keep up moving. It saves me the trouble of being the one to tell the slowpoke in our group to speed it up. All season long, I heard it once. One time in six months and we were politely informed to pick up our pace, and I was happy about it, because one of my group, while we struggling to keep pace, was hawking balls out of a water hazard.

As far as conditions, I agree, they aren't great, and at Havana, they were beyond horrible the one time I played it, but generally, we just "move them everywhere, place them in the bunkers" and move on. We are not playing for big money, and I'm cool with that. I've belonged to , and played at many private clubs in my life, and very few of them were in pristine shape.

One more point about the clubs that offer cheap deals. They are generally doing it out of desperation. There are a ton of clubs right on the edge of financial non-viability, and these bargain deals are their way to just barely stay afloat. It's the reality of golf right now. It costs enough to maintain a course, that many people aren't willing to pay what it costs per round to support it, so clubs have to cut corners when it comes to maintenance, and lower green fees just stay open. Every year, where I go in the summer, there seems to be another club that has closed up. So I wouldn't necessarily look at those super cheap greens fees as the ideal business model for the courses here in TV.


:bigbow::coolsmiley::clap2::MOJE_whot: You are one of the few who give an honest and factual accounting of golf here. Every few days there is a new post on here about how bad the courses are and how expensive. This past year the rough was to high, then it is too low. Been here 10 years have very few issues with getting tee times, the conditions of the courses for the majority of the time and handicap has gotten lower playing the ball where it lies. Great post and wish more golfers were around like you.

[Papa_lecki]

I’m surprised they haven’t converted one of the championships to a real country club financial model. I would think there are 250 people in the Villages who would pay $7000 for a real CC experience. You pay annual dues: then no green fees, exclusive access to the restaurant/pool.

Do the math, 250 *7000 = $1.75 million. That’s 23,000 rounds at $75 each

[dewilson58]

I’m surprised they haven’t converted one of the championships to a real country club financial model. I would think there are 250 people in the Villages who would pay $7000 for a real CC experience. You pay annual dues: then no green fees, exclusive access to the restaurant/pool.

Do the math, 250 *7000 = $1.75 million. That’s 23,000 rounds at $75 each

& what is the advantage to The Villages organizations???

[drcar]

Play more and they will build more courses. Supply and demand

Protest and abandon the courses?? Guess what will happen.

There will be 1 new championship opening south of 44 this year with 4 four already planned

[drcar]

I’m surprised they haven’t converted one of the championships to a real country club financial model. I would think there are 250 people in the Villages who would pay $7000 for a real CC experience. You pay annual dues: then no green fees, exclusive access to the restaurant/pool.

Do the math, 250 *7000 = $1.75 million. That’s 23,000 rounds at $75 each

Lets look at you logic.

"County Clubs" are closing all over the US.

Part of the promise of buying here ALL residents would be members of the Championship Courses

A super busy Championship course in the villages does over 100000 rounds per year, @ lets say $30.00 per round, hmmmmm 3, 000,000!

They don't have to worry about the staffing and running the restaurant.

And WHY would they change the MODEL that works and has worked

HMMMMM, to make maybe 250 golfers privileged? And only can play that course?

Think about it!

[UpNorth]

Do all of the off campus courses you referenced take T-Times? My wife and I ventured outside the bubble to play at Baseline in Ocala, but they don’t take T-Times. We won’t be returning there as there was about an hour and 45 minute wait.

They all take tee times except Baseline.

[collie1228]

There will be 1 new championship opening south of 44 this year with 4 four already planned

Where did this information come from? I pay attention to this stuff, and I've seen firm public plans for one new 18 hole golf course only - Southern Oaks.

[drcar]

Where did this information come from? I pay attention to this stuff, and I've seen firm public plans for one new 18 hole golf course only - Southern Oaks.

Fact, there are 2 more championship courses already planned and 2 more on the books, for a total of 5 championship courses spouth of 44. As a employee we have been told.

[TCLaD]

If you cant afford the heat, close the kitchen.

[drcar]

Wondering how the protests are going???? Courses seem full!