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Mike123
04-23-2021, 05:58 PM
lots off opinions here.
Jima64
04-23-2021, 06:16 PM
I think this partially reflects on the neighbor and his attitude about access to his yard for work to be performed.
JoMar
04-23-2021, 06:24 PM
Most contractors will repair any damage.....have you talked to your neighbor or the contractor?
Garywt
04-23-2021, 06:54 PM
Contact should be made and everything should be returned to how it was found. I know someone putting in a pool or major landscaping may need to cross property but it should be all approved before hand.
graciegirl
04-23-2021, 07:03 PM
Contact should be made and everything should be returned to how it was found. I know someone putting in a pool or major landscaping may need to cross property but it should be all approved before hand.
We are having that happen right now. The neighbor and the contractor both asked permission and we are very sure that they will restore all back to normal. Knowing them, I know they are very concerned that things are a little torn up looking. We are very lucky to have such nice folks living next to us and we hope they enjoy their new pool. Grass grows back.
Neils
04-23-2021, 11:06 PM
Gracie
Ask the neighbor for a free pool pass.
davem4616
04-23-2021, 11:34 PM
I understand your sense of being taken for granted....I've felt that way too at times with various contractors here in the villages doing work on my street
Ya just have to relax a little and politely speak up
the fellow that cuts the grass for the house next to us constantly parks his truck/trailer in such a way that when he opens the trailer gate it extends half way across the front of my driveway and he was leaving it down
I finally went out to the kid (and he is a young man) and asked him if he would close the gate to his trailer once he pulls his mower out, incase I needed to back out of my garage.
The kid was fine with that and did that. He came again today while I was out, when I returned, the tail gate was down, halfway across my driveway
If I cut grass all day in the hot sun, I'd most likely be constantly on 'auto pilot' too....
not a lot you can do about it...they are what they are
Mike123
04-24-2021, 04:46 AM
Count yourself lucky to have neighbors who understand their responsibility and take care of it.
matandch
04-24-2021, 05:27 AM
Don’t sweat the small stuff. Life is short.
MollyJo
04-24-2021, 05:44 AM
I understand your sense of being taken for granted....I've felt that way too at times with various contractors here in the villages doing work on my street
Ya just have to relax a little and politely speak up
the fellow that cuts the grass for the house next to us constantly parks his truck/trailer in such a way that when he opens the trailer gate it extends half way across the front of my driveway and he was leaving it down
I finally went out to the kid (and he is a young man) and asked him if he would close the gate to his trailer once he pulls his mower out, incase I needed to back out of my garage.
The kid was fine with that and did that. He came again today while I was out, when I returned, the tail gate was down, halfway across my driveway
If I cut grass all day in the hot sun, I'd most likely be constantly on 'auto pilot' too....
not a lot you can do about it...they are what they are
Park behind his trailer gate, he might ‘get it’ then...
banjobob
04-24-2021, 05:55 AM
I probably would have stopped it , not driving on my lawn without my permission from me. Neighbor should have asked and also the contractor.
Girlcopper
04-24-2021, 06:11 AM
Most contractors will repair any damage.....have you talked to your neighbor or the contractor?
Yes. Have you talked to them? Have you said anything at all? I have dealt with contractors a couple of times and they have always stopped at my door n let me know whats going on. Never have they left behind damage. You say theyre rude. Well, you may find they arent rude when you go talk to them. Dont you know your neighbor well enough to talk to them too? Go talk directly to them instead of contacting someone at the Villages who arent going to help you anyway
Petersweeney
04-24-2021, 06:39 AM
I take my grass seriously and would be upset if the neighbor took my grass for granted or didn’t have presence of mind to talk to me first.
Cassieb
04-24-2021, 06:41 AM
Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?
You are correct. People are rude and self centered. They don't ask they just cut across your property without a care for your feelings. I am sure they would not like it if you did the same to theirs.
Billy1
04-24-2021, 06:44 AM
Watered and fertilized friendships will grow back too.
Marathon Man
04-24-2021, 06:52 AM
"Seems like people are just rude." "Seems like" is what you have when you don't talk to people and find out what they are really like.
I agree with the others. Rather than talking to us, you should be talking to them. But calm down first. The sky remains in place.
PugMom
04-24-2021, 07:08 AM
Yes. Have you talked to them? Have you said anything at all? I have dealt with contractors a couple of times and they have always stopped at my door n let me know whats going on. Never have they left behind damage. You say theyre rude. Well, you may find they arent rude when you go talk to them. Dont you know your neighbor well enough to talk to them too? Go talk directly to them instead of contacting someone at the Villages who arent going to help you anyway
thank you for the post-communication works wonders
dewilson58
04-24-2021, 07:10 AM
thank you for the post-communication works wonders
:bigbow:
The OP is not looking for advice.
Chi-Town
04-24-2021, 07:19 AM
On the other hand one should be thankful that their neighbor is maintaining and/or improving their property.
DAVES
04-24-2021, 07:54 AM
Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?
Yet another of life's choices to make. Re: the villages, I would call the office and they will direct you on who to speak to. They are both knowledgeable and helpful.
Perhaps, depending on who or what your neighbors are it would be wise to not allow yourself to do it when angry but to talk to them. It is possible they are not aware. Or more likely they will have an out and claim they were not aware. Perhaps, the job is not finished-ie paid for-and the contractor can and will be forced to correct the damage.
As to don't cross my property line, I do not know what the law is BUT, when sooner or later my air conditioner compressor needs to be replaced, I have no idea how it could be done without running equipment onto my neighbor's property. Same would be true for
painting etc etc etc.
Small claims court. Same point of view. Do you wish to choose to create a hostile relationship with a neighbor. I have used small claims court twice in the past. It was in another state. Someone informed me and I confirmed it. In Florida, the court charges you a significant percentage of anything you might win. Small claims, I collected both times. Wining is only one part of the issue. Collecting on the amount you have won is another issue and a high percentage of amounts won are not collected.
cafw1
04-24-2021, 08:14 AM
I have the same problem. I did contact the neighbor and she was rude and actually threatened me---I should have reported that to the police but I thought we could amicably solve the problem---I thought wrong. She tells workers that they can come onto my property because there is an easement. NOT TRUE. There are easements on our properties but they only protect utility companies and the developer. They don't apply to lawn cutters, roofers etc. There are legal measures that you can enforce. If you call the local sheriff they will explain it and they are nice. Good luck. If we don't stop these people from doing what they want to do The Villages will become a not so nice place to live.
DAVES
04-24-2021, 08:17 AM
Yes. Have you talked to them? Have you said anything at all? I have dealt with contractors a couple of times and they have always stopped at my door n let me know whats going on. Never have they left behind damage. You say theyre rude. Well, you may find they arent rude when you go talk to them. Dont you know your neighbor well enough to talk to them too? Go talk directly to them instead of contacting someone at the Villages who arent going to help you anyway
Personal experience as far as the Villages aren't going to help you. Years ago our neighbor hired a landscaper. They intruded onto our property with a cement construction. Our neighbor was very nice agreed to have the people move it.
The landscaper came over to swear at me. Stuff like he is the expert etc. I told him
I will check with the villages. The villages quickly came over. Looked and confirmed it was on my property. The landscaper had not filed a REQUIRED PLAN. The villagers told my neighbor and the contractor that he would not be paid till he filed a plan and corrected the issues. I of course took pictures. It was a bit of a surprise that the work was done carefully and they did not damage my property out of spite. My neighbor later told me that the guy he hired was arrested shorty after. The Villages did get involved and the person they sent was very professional at not escalating the issue.
cafw1
04-24-2021, 08:20 AM
I have the same problem. I did contact the neighbor and she was rude and actually threatened me---I should have reported that to the police but I thought we could amicably solve the problem---I thought wrong. She tells workers that they can come onto my property because there is an easement. NOT TRUE. There are easements on our properties but they only protect utility companies and the developer. They don't apply to lawn cutters, roofers etc. There are legal measures that you can enforce. If you call the local sheriff they will explain it and they are nice. Good luck. If we don't stop these people from doing what they want to do The Villages will become a not so nice place to live.
Pat2015
04-24-2021, 08:20 AM
Yes. Have you talked to them? Have you said anything at all? I have dealt with contractors a couple of times and they have always stopped at my door n let me know whats going on. Never have they left behind damage. You say theyre rude. Well, you may find they arent rude when you go talk to them. Dont you know your neighbor well enough to talk to them too? Go talk directly to them instead of contacting someone at the Villages who arent going to help you anyway
Great response! Instead of venting in here, how about going to the neighbor who might not have known the contractor would have to come onto your lawn and make sure they are aware of any damage which contractors here in my 7 years always fix.
cafw1
04-24-2021, 08:32 AM
Since "TRESPASSING" is becoming more and more of a problem it would be good if ARC and Deeds Restrictions etc. made it known that it's NOT ALLOWED. ARC is making people aware that any change to their property requires a permit and they should make people aware of what TRESPASSING is----publish it in The Daily Sun and put it on their television station and when it's reported notify the offenders.
kimgarwel12@gmail.com
04-24-2021, 08:33 AM
This happened to our neighbors. The neighbor on the other side of the privacy fence put a pool in and without permission beforehand, the contractor took down the privacy fence, drove trucks across their lawn, leaving ruts, broke sprinkler lines/heads, gouged the fence and left cement/rock debris in their yard. It took numerous calls to the contractor and a conversation with the neighbor and finally a threat for legal action/civil lawsuit to get it all made right again. The neighbor blamed the contractor, saying the contractor was supposed to "take care of this" beforehand and the contractor just blew it all off, apparently. That "relationship" between neighbors will be forever compromised.
Stu from NYC
04-24-2021, 08:58 AM
Before doing anything else would have a nice conversation with neighbor and contractor.
The words please and thank you typically go far in resolving any issues.
Several times contractors have parked their vehicles across our driveway and when asked to please move it they have always said sorry and taken care of it.
njbchbum
04-24-2021, 10:04 AM
Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?
I feel your pain! Have just gone thru the rut causing landscaper and owner driving his golf cart along my property line in the landscaping rut. Tried to politely discuss the issue with the neighbor with no success - he even yelled at me! The rut is clearly on top of my irrigation line!!! Also spoke to landscaper - first time he said he would slow down and be more careful - he did - one time! Next time he was right back driving on the irrigation line and dissed me when I pointed it out to him.
Since we are snowbirds there is not much we can do from a distance. However...my lawn cutter has promised to install short flagged/decorated pieces of metal rebar alongside my irrigation line several feet apart making it necessary for the offending lawn cutter to avoid the line or suffer the damage to his equipment. We're fortunate that my lawn cutter does not mind having to weed whack that rebar - but he resents being blamed for the rut by my offending neighbor! We are also fortunate that we live on the historic side where deed restrictions are not as restrictive as other villages! Am thinking that when we return we will design some type of planting between the properties [with the assistance of ARC] that will be pleasant to look at.
jimjamuser
04-24-2021, 10:04 AM
Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?
I had that happen to me several years ago. Argued with my neighbor, who is a jerk! And I have never since spoken to my neighbor and I likely never will!
jimjamuser
04-24-2021, 10:06 AM
Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?
It is also a consequence of the lots in TV Land being so small.
cafw1
04-24-2021, 10:11 AM
In response to those who suggest being nice and talking to the offender. There are people out there who refuse to talk sensibly. They won't acknowledge that they are breaking laws/rules and they make up things and say they are covered under a law that does NOT include them ---an example being the easement rules which only apply to utility companies and the developer. Please don't blame the victims in these situations. Blame those who believe they are exempt from laws.
Chellybean
04-24-2021, 10:23 AM
Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?
there are a lot of AHOLE neighbors in the villages that take liberties I would never take.
I had neighbors on both side come on my property with contractors not once, not twice but five times and never repaired damage, finally after five years of there 175 feet of landscaping growing on to my property where a 5 foot a special easement exist i had them rip it out.
People don't care about encroaching on someone's property as long as there property is ok, its called Villager entitlement. the trespassing laws are one of the best in Florida in the country;
810.08 Trespass in structure or conveyance.
810.09 Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.
If unreasonable or arrogance exist then you don't have good neighbors anyways so don't put up with it!!
JMHO
jimjamuser
04-24-2021, 10:24 AM
I understand your sense of being taken for granted....I've felt that way too at times with various contractors here in the villages doing work on my street
Ya just have to relax a little and politely speak up
the fellow that cuts the grass for the house next to us constantly parks his truck/trailer in such a way that when he opens the trailer gate it extends half way across the front of my driveway and he was leaving it down
I finally went out to the kid (and he is a young man) and asked him if he would close the gate to his trailer once he pulls his mower out, incase I needed to back out of my garage.
The kid was fine with that and did that. He came again today while I was out, when I returned, the tail gate was down, halfway across my driveway
If I cut grass all day in the hot sun, I'd most likely be constantly on 'auto pilot' too....
not a lot you can do about it...they are what they are
And that is why I always cut my OWN grass. The grass maintenance people are poor and from the lower ladder of society, which is to be blamed on ALL of society, not just the failings of the individual. Be that as it may, the grass cutters tell their friends when TV Landers are away and who has what power tools. Their friends break into the houses, then pawn the stolen equipment - then the grass cutters or other workers get a kickback for the information. With riding lawnmowers so available, most TV Landers should be capable of doing their own grass cutting - and whenever possible, other maintenance should be done by trusted retired Villagers. This would cut down on TV Land crime (that DOES exist even though the newspaper deemphasizes it)! And NEVER leave your doors unlocked - the Neighborhood Watch people are useless! Cameras can help.
DAVES
04-24-2021, 10:31 AM
I have the same problem. I did contact the neighbor and she was rude and actually threatened me---I should have reported that to the police but I thought we could amicably solve the problem---I thought wrong. She tells workers that they can come onto my property because there is an easement. NOT TRUE. There are easements on our properties but they only protect utility companies and the developer. They don't apply to lawn cutters, roofers etc. There are legal measures that you can enforce. If you call the local sheriff they will explain it and they are nice. Good luck. If we don't stop these people from doing what they want to do The Villages will become a not so nice place to live.
I negotiated things for a living. Like most things there is an art to it. Before things get out of hand, it can be wise to retreat. I see you are busy now, when would be a better time for you? Never back anyone into a corner always allow them an obvious turn off the road to confrontation. It is always harder to get the result you want after a hostile confrontation.
Whatever your neighbor said a licensed contractor knows the law. Someone you hire off the street because they are cheap, you may find as in other issues that you pay for it once and then again to get it done right.
jimjamuser
04-24-2021, 10:33 AM
On the other hand one should be thankful that their neighbor is maintaining and/or improving their property.
That's one way to find a "silver lining".
DAVES
04-24-2021, 10:46 AM
And that is why I always cut my OWN grass. The grass maintenance people are poor and from the lower ladder of society, which is to be blamed on ALL of society, not just the failings of the individual. Be that as it may, the grass cutters tell their friends when TV Landers are away and who has what power tools. Their friends break into the houses, then pawn the stolen equipment - then the grass cutters or other workers get a kickback for the information. With riding lawnmowers so available, most TV Landers should be capable of doing their own grass cutting - and whenever possible, other maintenance should be done by trusted retired Villagers. This would cut down on TV Land crime (that DOES exist even though the newspaper deemphasizes it)! And NEVER leave your doors unlocked - the Neighborhood Watch people are useless! Cameras can help.
Reality. If, someone robs your home it is usually an unplanned crime. A ridding mower?
It may be expensive however the criminal was seen escaping on a riding mower is a bit comical. They want, and will take stuff that is easily to sell and small.
Further reality. If, you chose to hit a thief with say a baseball bat, he will get free medical care paid for by your tax money and he will be back on the street before you will.
Where we are and how we got here.
jimjamuser
04-24-2021, 10:50 AM
I have the same problem. I did contact the neighbor and she was rude and actually threatened me---I should have reported that to the police but I thought we could amicably solve the problem---I thought wrong. She tells workers that they can come onto my property because there is an easement. NOT TRUE. There are easements on our properties but they only protect utility companies and the developer. They don't apply to lawn cutters, roofers etc. There are legal measures that you can enforce. If you call the local sheriff they will explain it and they are nice. Good luck. If we don't stop these people from doing what they want to do The Villages will become a not so nice place to live.
I agree with you! If that neighbor is rude and takes advantage of you once it will likely happen again. And the same for the landscapers. If the person starting this thread fights for their position and rights, it helps ALL other Villagers because the neighbor and the landscapers will have been put on notice that their actions were WRONG and offensive. They could contact the Police and The Villages Office - also they could reveal the name of the landscaper on this or other local forums. Rudeness and lack of empathy need the oxygen of an opaque environment. Transparency can help a local situation and probably all situations - with the exception of national spying operations.
jimjamuser
04-24-2021, 11:13 AM
Personal experience as far as the Villages aren't going to help you. Years ago our neighbor hired a landscaper. They intruded onto our property with a cement construction. Our neighbor was very nice agreed to have the people move it.
The landscaper came over to swear at me. Stuff like he is the expert etc. I told him
I will check with the villages. The villages quickly came over. Looked and confirmed it was on my property. The landscaper had not filed a REQUIRED PLAN. The villagers told my neighbor and the contractor that he would not be paid till he filed a plan and corrected the issues. I of course took pictures. It was a bit of a surprise that the work was done carefully and they did not damage my property out of spite. My neighbor later told me that the guy he hired was arrested shorty after. The Villages did get involved and the person they sent was very professional at not escalating the issue.
A lot of the landscaping and Maintainance workers are NOT of good character. Like anything else, most of them are probably honest and hardworking good people. It is the rotten apples that will treat the OLDER Villagers as EASY MARKS and sources of income - TV Landers MUST stay aware - this is NOT Disneyland, a place devoid of CRIME!
Actually, if you live here long enough, you will begin to see a real underbelly to TV Land. I have not seen that recent documentary that reveals much about TV Land. Rumor has it that way back there was a book published that the owners did NOT want to be circulated. So, they bought up all copies. This could be just hearsay and rumors about "skeletons in the closet" of Adult Disneyland?
jimjamuser
04-24-2021, 11:55 AM
I negotiated things for a living. Like most things there is an art to it. Before things get out of hand, it can be wise to retreat. I see you are busy now, when would be a better time for you? Never back anyone into a corner always allow them an obvious turn off the road to confrontation. It is always harder to get the result you want after a hostile confrontation.
Whatever your neighbor said a licensed contractor knows the law. Someone you hire off the street because they are cheap, you may find as in other issues that you pay for it once and then again to get it done right.
Good post and good advice!
Velvet
04-24-2021, 11:58 AM
I saw my one if my neighbors on my property (without my permission) near the flowerbed. Took a closer look at the camera video to see what he was doing. He was fixing one of my solar lights the wind had blown down. Terrible! Typical Villager!
joelfmi
04-24-2021, 02:11 PM
What I have learned in the Village on residence treads has been very inlighting and they been very informative and sobering which you will not learn on video's of the villages made by your inhabits on various website that advertise the senior community. Thank you for being informative.
Mike123
04-24-2021, 02:25 PM
Seems simple just repair it.
joelfmi
04-24-2021, 02:30 PM
My experience with DYI has been a disaster myself being a master trade specialist have seen it all and some have caused themselves major injuries, property damages and death, just read the news.I tell DYI it's alway cheaper to hire a licensed trades men than to pay for medical treatment after you get hurt or property damages but I am preaching to the choir when I tell them that.
Mike123
04-24-2021, 02:41 PM
Property owner be aware is my message.
JMintzer
04-24-2021, 03:48 PM
Sounds like double speak to me
What's the difference between "a lot of" and "most of"?
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beeneyra
04-24-2021, 04:24 PM
Put signs up. I remember seeing some in Norfolk Va. That stated Dogs and Sailors keep off of yard.
Villageswimmer
04-24-2021, 05:15 PM
OP, have you called the Sheriffs office? There are trespass laws if you choose to pursue the issue.
Topspinmo
04-24-2021, 05:42 PM
It is also a consequence of the lots in TV Land being so small.
I agree to get down between 99% houses you have to trespass on neighbors property. Some you can’t even turn around push mower with out encroaching.
Topspinmo
04-24-2021, 05:44 PM
In response to those who suggest being nice and talking to the offender. There are people out there who refuse to talk sensibly. They won't acknowledge that they are breaking laws/rules and they make up things and say they are covered under a law that does NOT include them ---an example being the easement rules which only apply to utility companies and the developer. Please don't blame the victims in these situations. Blame those who believe they are exempt from laws.
👏. :ho:
Pairadocs
04-24-2021, 06:49 PM
Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?
Definitely ! A little common courtesy, decency, respect would go a long way, same with dog poop, taking care of damage you do like the sod ruined, ruts, even broken sprinkler pipes over and over from the neighbor's lawn people who simply don't care. Some people on here disagree, but, it has NOT always been like this, things/people have definitely changed. Do any of you still have villages where you get together every Friday night , or other night, on someone's drive, informally visiting on a regular basis like we used to ? I know we hardly know our neighbors any more, let alone the way people came immediately to our door when we moved in, offered all kinds of help (I remember we had a few day with nothing we could put up to cover the windows, someone on the block was knocking on door with the most unique "temporary" blinds to loan us. What changed, it's not all the virus, this less friendly home town did not start just with the virus.
CWSBLUE
04-24-2021, 06:54 PM
It's good to see everyone getting along so well. Can't wait to move there !!
vinnyfla
04-24-2021, 07:29 PM
My neighbor having work and TD has a port's pod dropped off they put on my front yard?
I told them get the vmcompany back and get it immediately, you can't nice to stupid
Nucky
04-24-2021, 07:40 PM
I feel your pain! Have just gone thru the rut causing landscaper and owner driving his golf cart along my property line in the landscaping rut. Tried to politely discuss the issue with the neighbor with no success - he even yelled at me! The rut is clearly on top of my irrigation line!!! Also spoke to landscaper - first time he said he would slow down and be more careful - he did - one time! Next time he was right back driving on the irrigation line and dissed me when I pointed it out to him.
Since we are snowbirds there is not much we can do from a distance. However...my lawn cutter has promised to install short flagged/decorated pieces of metal rebar alongside my irrigation line several feet apart making it necessary for the offending lawn cutter to avoid the line or suffer the damage to his equipment. We're fortunate that my lawn cutter does not mind having to weed whack that rebar - but he resents being blamed for the rut by my offending neighbor! We are also fortunate that we live on the historic side where deed restrictions are not as restrictive as other villages! Am thinking that when we return we will design some type of planting between the properties [with the assistance of ARC] that will be pleasant to look at.
I'll help you out. Lemme know if you need help. I gotta a guy, he's from back home. :ohdear: I know it's not funny. It sucks when adults act like children and don't respect! He'll offer some corrective incentive to them. He yelled at you? We can't have that now, can we? :boxing2:
Girlcopper
04-25-2021, 07:21 AM
In response to those who suggest being nice and talking to the offender. There are people out there who refuse to talk sensibly. They won't acknowledge that they are breaking laws/rules and they make up things and say they are covered under a law that does NOT include them ---an example being the easement rules which only apply to utility companies and the developer. Please don't blame the victims in these situations. Blame those who believe they are exempt from laws.
True but if you dont try and talk to them, youll never know. Start out as an adult and try and resolve it before running all over the Villages contacting people to come to your aid
cafw1
04-25-2021, 08:11 AM
To the person who suggested not calling on Villages staff to enforce the rules I ask: When you politely make an attempt to explain to the offender that an encroachment needs to be fixed and the neighbor absolutely refuses and threatens you with physical violence you can either call "Deeds Restrictions" or the police. I personally try "Deeds Restriction" first. I realize that some of these chronic offenders always need to "win" and will remedy the violation for a week and then do the same violation again and fight with the Deeds Restriction employees who are only doing their job. I hope the offenders realize that after 3 complaints about the same thing they will get fined. How would you handle this?
DAVES
04-25-2021, 09:46 AM
To the person who suggested not calling on Villages staff to enforce the rules I ask: When you politely make an attempt to explain to the offender that an encroachment needs to be fixed and the neighbor absolutely refuses and threatens you with physical violence you can either call "Deeds Restrictions" or the police. I personally try "Deeds Restriction" first. I realize that some of these chronic offenders always need to "win" and will remedy the violation for a week and then do the same violation again and fight with the Deeds Restriction employees who are only doing their job. I hope the offenders realize that after 3 complaints about the same thing they will get fined. How would you handle this?
A large part of the problem with many of the suggestions is that people lose track of what the goal is. What winning is. Wining is not trying to teach people a lesson.
Winning is having the damage repaired, you cannot undo the damage Wining is also
getting it done without creating a hostile relationship. There is a great skill in doing this.
Sometimes it is impossible to do.
As I read through posts on any topic one where the person says, I did not realize I was wrong and how and why it is important to others.
Velvet
04-25-2021, 09:55 AM
Hmmmm... knowing my hubby this landscaper would have ONE chance of changing their habit of using our lawn to get to the other person’s property. We don’t have shared property with our neighbors and I am allergic to trespassers in general. Utility workers etc of course have clear easy access.
DAVES
04-25-2021, 10:01 AM
It's good to see everyone getting along so well. Can't wait to move there !!
There is conflict everywhere. As a friend has said people do not get better as they get older they get worse We have choices.
Before moving to the villages, I became aware of an island you could buy off North Carolina. We did not look but the house looked to be in good shape. It came with a small herd of wild horses. It was several acres, I'm not sure how they measure that at high or low tide. It was one million dollars. Far different than the villages. Potential neighbor disputes. He might get a boat.
jimjamuser
04-25-2021, 10:29 AM
I agree to get down between 99% houses you have to trespass on neighbors property. Some you can’t even turn around push mower with out encroaching.
Thank you for agreeing with me on this! I hope that you are getting a lot of topspin on your strokes!
Marathon Man
04-25-2021, 10:51 AM
lots off opinions here.
That's what TOTV is. Expecting something else?
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