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rsalisbu
05-01-2021, 01:14 PM
In my humble opinion, Tee times should be used as a tool so that players can enjoy a round of golf in a reasonable time. If you constantly send foursomes out 20 to 25 minutes early of their posted Tee time, you end up with 3 foursomes waiting on every tee. Now, I know I will hear "what if someone is late, better to make everyone show up a half hour early!
The easy solution to that problem is if you show up late and miss your posted Tee time, you don't play! Do that once, and I guarantee next time you will be on time."The needs of the many outweigh the inconsideration of the few".
I hope others who feel as I do will highlight this suggestion in our yearly villager survay.:icon_wink:

I'm Popeye!
05-01-2021, 01:51 PM
I do believe they ask for everyone to check in 20 minutes before their actual tee time.

thelegges
05-01-2021, 02:07 PM
It’s 20 minutes before tee time, why would 30 minutes be a improvement

dewilson58
05-01-2021, 02:37 PM
:what:

Bogie Shooter
05-01-2021, 03:08 PM
Is the annual survey returning??

Mortal1
05-01-2021, 03:50 PM
The rule is "if you miss your tee time you don't get to play"...now if there is a 4 some playing who can barely see, barely walk, hit if 40yds most of the time and play from the black tees IT IS GOING TO APPEAR to back up. If the group is keeping up with group ahead, but the 2nd and 3rd group behind them play quicker then you will get 3 groups backed up and it's NO ONES fault.

Now if you tee people off 15/20 minutes early, but keep the 9 minute gap then it's no ones fault. If you tee off 15 minutes early and one of your crew it's late, but the starter still lets your group go then it's the starters fault as they are not supposed to let folks tee off before their assigned time....the group does not have to tee off before it's assigned tee time....no matter what the starter says. Call the golf shop if you don't believe me. I used to work as an ambassador here.

Still there are groups that like to go early and sometimes you get behind them and can hardly keep up.

Likelier cause of back ups...not playing from the correct distance and your excuses can be: I like the challenge(but never reach a green in one on par 3's.....I like to use my driver(but still come up short of the green)...MULLIGANS: people here seem to think it's some sort of rule...it's not(doesn't even appear in the USGA'S RULE book)and they do it on almost every tee(one person I was playing with claimed they'd hit till it was a good one-REALLY?).

Exec etiquette : if the group ahead is leaving for the next tee then the first person of the group behind them should have the first person ready to go. Leave the chit-chat for waiting on the tee or the bar. If there is a group behind(getting off the previous green)
you and you don't lose the first ball, but it's horrid then let everyone else tee off. Then bring your ball to the shortest drive and play from there. If you chip then putt bring both clubs with you onto the green and place the wedge between the pin and your cart. When finished with the hole put your club(s) away and go to the next tee. That is where you put your score down. Don't park your cart short of the green. Try to park it pin high at all times. When you go into a bunker bring the rake with you then you won't go back and forth in the bunker except on your way out while raking....properly please.

This is READY GOLF....that means to hit when ready if it won't endanger another player or interfere with their play, but it also means that be READY TO PLAY when it's your turn.

Lastly *whew* it's exec golf if it bunches up and caused by replaced hips/knees/shoulders(see slow moving)then let it slide. Some people can not walk very well or fast anymore. If they're obviously clueless the ambassador isn't doing their job as then can make them skip a hole or two...they'll either ask why or know why. They'll sometimes call and complain, but they obviously didn't take good golf school or read the pamphlet. At the bottom most rung of golfing ladder are those who just don't care what you or anyone think or say....they'll just do whatever they like *shrug*. They're few and far between thank God.

trueorange
05-01-2021, 04:12 PM
The groups I play with usually check in 20 minutes early. Often we are directed to go ahead and tee off early. I never know if there were no-shows ahead of us on the schedule or if everyone else was early, too. We often have to wait on subsequent tees and/or have people pushing us from behind. Should we start insisting on teeing off at the scheduled time?

Papa_lecki
05-01-2021, 04:52 PM
The groups I play with usually check in 20 minutes early. Often we are directed to go ahead and tee off early. I never know if there were no-shows ahead of us on the schedule or if everyone else was early, too. We often have to wait on subsequent tees and/or have people pushing us from behind. Should we start insisting on teeing off at the scheduled time?

As long as you leave the 8 minutes between the tee times, you should be okay, even if you go out early.
The problems with slow play above are the reason.
Also, I played with a guy walking who needed both knees replaced, that was a slow round.

billethkid
05-01-2021, 04:57 PM
How about when teeing off on time and having to wait for someone in front of your foursome (which is by the way most of the time on executive courses)!

I don't think winding up having to wait for groups ahead is attributable to teeing off early.

bagboy
05-01-2021, 07:23 PM
:what:

I totally agree .

Laker14
05-01-2021, 08:14 PM
I prefer to take a few deep breaths, and be happy I am still on the sunny side of the divot. Nine holes of executive golf, on a slow day is seldom more than 1:45. We can always find something to chat about. To quote Aaron Rodgers, who was quoting someone else,
R-E-L-A-Xssssssss..........reeelaxxssss........

jedalton
05-02-2021, 05:07 AM
The groups I play with usually check in 20 minutes early. Often we are directed to go ahead and tee off early. I never know if there were no-shows ahead of us on the schedule or if everyone else was early, too. We often have to wait on subsequent tees and/or have people pushing us from behind. Should we start insisting on teeing off at the scheduled time?

as an executive starter I always give the option of teeing off early or waiting for your tee time. 99.9% want to tee off early.

Rwirish
05-02-2021, 05:08 AM
Is the annual survey returning?

Tee times run fine IMO. No changes needed.

jedalton
05-02-2021, 05:09 AM
absolutely correct

noslices1
05-02-2021, 05:50 AM
In one of my groups, there is one person who habitually shows up while we are on the tee box. We tell the starter that we will tee off and if this person shows up, he can catch up to us, but he almost always shows up at the last minute.

sjpdjp
05-02-2021, 05:58 AM
It’s possible, with all the single driver golf carts the starter just needs to manage the parking area.

Tomptomp
05-02-2021, 05:58 AM
How early a group tees off has no bearing on backlogs. If it takes 2 hours to play it doesn’t matter. If we all tee of on time then two hours is two hours. Period.

The Man
05-02-2021, 06:24 AM
Avoid fishing for golf balls! I was behind a group last week and one guy had no interest in golfing if there was a pond near by where he could fish for drown balls.

banjobob
05-02-2021, 06:29 AM
Amen !, we all know the way things work . My gripe are as someone else posted , playing the gold tee when it takes them two shots to reach the green.

richs631
05-02-2021, 06:35 AM
I prefer to take a few deep breaths, and be happy I am still on the sunny side of the divot. Nine holes of executive golf, on a slow day is seldom more than 1:45. We can always find something to chat about. To quote Aaron Rodgers, who was quoting someone else,
R-E-L-A-Xssssssss..........reeelaxxssss........

Agree 100%. Just enjoy your round of golf and adjust to the pace even if it is slow. This is not pro golf

Billy1
05-02-2021, 06:37 AM
Golfers I play with like going off early. We went off early Friday and there was no hold up. Also something not mentioned in the replies I read, I sometimes I lay up and pitch up to the green when they leave, this helps the people behind you.
NOTE: PLEASE DON'T HIT SIX MULLIGANS AND SEARCH FOR ALL SIX BALLS.

jbrown132
05-02-2021, 06:37 AM
I do believe they ask for everyone to check in 20 minutes before their actual tee time.

I see people all the time who show up a couple of minutes before their tee time or a few minutes after and display indignation when the starter tells them their late.

Billy1
05-02-2021, 06:39 AM
Got behind a twosome once, the man pretended to be pitching and putting, while the woman hunted for balls.

Careyjan
05-02-2021, 06:43 AM
I never get a survey. If I did I would request more executive courses south of 44.

Girlcopper
05-02-2021, 06:57 AM
Agree 100%. Just enjoy your round of golf and adjust to the pace even if it is slow. This is not pro golf
Agree. Its a game. Not a life and death situation. Relax and enjoy the day and find something else to stress about

stan the man
05-02-2021, 07:05 AM
I never get a survey. If I did I would request more executive courses south of 44.

no room too many houses

Bill1701
05-02-2021, 07:23 AM
Don't forget that on par 4s and 5s, you can tee off before the group in front of you is finished. Most of us are not going to hit our drive 300 yds and hit someone. I see many groups who play the 4s the same way they play the 3s. They wait until the group ahead is off the green before starting.

Don5154
05-02-2021, 07:27 AM
:bigbow:In my humble opinion, Tee times should be used as a tool so that players can enjoy a round of golf in a reasonable time. If you constantly send foursomes out 20 to 25 minutes early of their posted Tee time, you end up with 3 foursomes waiting on every tee. Now, I know I will hear "what if someone is late, better to make everyone show up a half hour early!
The easy solution to that problem is if you show up late and miss your posted Tee time, you don't play! Do that once, and I guarantee next time you will be on time."The needs of the many outweigh the inconsideration of the few".
I hope others who feel as I do will highlight this suggestion in our yearly villager survay.:icon_wink:

Smarlow55
05-02-2021, 07:43 AM
Wonderful explanation and guidance for all, THANK YOU!!

Buckeye Bob
05-02-2021, 07:55 AM
"If they're obviously clueless the ambassador isn't doing their job as then can make them skip a hole or two...they'll either ask why or know why."

I have never seen or heard of an ambassador on an executive course ask people to skip a hole. They might politely ask a group if they could pick up their pace.
Championship courses are a different story.

Waltdisney4life
05-02-2021, 07:59 AM
Wow how lucky are you if this is the only problem in your life. Remember it’s the score you put on the card not how quickly you played.

Boffin
05-02-2021, 08:28 AM
The rule is "if you miss your tee time you don't get to play"...now if there is a 4 some playing who can barely see, barely walk, hit if 40yds most of the time and play from the black tees IT IS GOING TO APPEAR to back up. If the group is keeping up with group ahead, but the 2nd and 3rd group behind them play quicker then you will get 3 groups backed up and it's NO ONES fault.

Now if you tee people off 15/20 minutes early, but keep the 9 minute gap then it's no ones fault. If you tee off 15 minutes early and one of your crew it's late, but the starter still lets your group go then it's the starters fault as they are not supposed to let folks tee off before their assigned time....the group does not have to tee off before it's assigned tee time....no matter what the starter says. Call the golf shop if you don't believe me. I used to work as an ambassador here.

Still there are groups that like to go early and sometimes you get behind them and can hardly keep up.

Likelier cause of back ups...not playing from the correct distance and your excuses can be: I like the challenge(but never reach a green in one on par 3's.....I like to use my driver(but still come up short of the green)...MULLIGANS: people here seem to think it's some sort of rule...it's not(doesn't even appear in the USGA'S RULE book)and they do it on almost every tee(one person I was playing with claimed they'd hit till it was a good one-REALLY?).

Exec etiquette : if the group ahead is leaving for the next tee then the first person of the group behind them should have the first person ready to go. Leave the chit-chat for waiting on the tee or the bar. If there is a group behind(getting off the previous green)
you and you don't lose the first ball, but it's horrid then let everyone else tee off. Then bring your ball to the shortest drive and play from there. If you chip then putt bring both clubs with you onto the green and place the wedge between the pin and your cart. When finished with the hole put your club(s) away and go to the next tee. That is where you put your score down. Don't park your cart short of the green. Try to park it pin high at all times. When you go into a bunker bring the rake with you then you won't go back and forth in the bunker except on your way out while raking....properly please.

This is READY GOLF....that means to hit when ready if it won't endanger another player or interfere with their play, but it also means that be READY TO PLAY when it's your turn.

Lastly *whew* it's exec golf if it bunches up and caused by replaced hips/knees/shoulders(see slow moving)then let it slide. Some people can not walk very well or fast anymore. If they're obviously clueless the ambassador isn't doing their job as then can make them skip a hole or two...they'll either ask why or know why. They'll sometimes call and complain, but they obviously didn't take good golf school or read the pamphlet. At the bottom most rung of golfing ladder are those who just don't care what you or anyone think or say....they'll just do whatever they like *shrug*. They're few and far between thank God.

Well said.

kkingston57
05-02-2021, 08:54 AM
Agree this happens a lot, but should not cause back up later in the round. Biggest problem is slow players and a lot of beginners. Some of the beginners need to assess their playing speed and if they are having a bad hole, pick up the ball and move on.

beeneyra
05-02-2021, 09:14 AM
Sending a group out early, doesn't cause 3 groups on each tee box. Slow play does. You can't tee off till the group on number 1 tee box is off the green.

Bludot300
05-02-2021, 09:31 AM
Well said!!!

hal195z
05-02-2021, 09:32 AM
You are not supposed to T-off until the group in front of you begins to T-off. There would not be multiple groups on a T box.

Challenger
05-02-2021, 09:32 AM
In my humble opinion, Tee times should be used as a tool so that players can enjoy a round of golf in a reasonable time. If you constantly send foursomes out 20 to 25 minutes early of their posted Tee time, you end up with 3 foursomes waiting on every tee. Now, I know I will hear "what if someone is late, better to make everyone show up a half hour early!
The easy solution to that problem is if you show up late and miss your posted Tee time, you don't play! Do that once, and I guarantee next time you will be on time."The needs of the many outweigh the inconsideration of the few".
I hope others who feel as I do will highlight this suggestion in our yearly villager survay.:icon_wink:

Show up 20 mins before T time , as indicated in the Golf instructions for TV and most problems will be solved. Habitually late is inconsiderate of others _ for those who care

OhioBuckeye
05-02-2021, 09:34 AM
In my humble opinion, Tee times should be used as a tool so that players can enjoy a round of golf in a reasonable time. If you constantly send foursomes out 20 to 25 minutes early of their posted Tee time, you end up with 3 foursomes waiting on every tee. Now, I know I will hear "what if someone is late, better to make everyone show up a half hour early!
The easy solution to that problem is if you show up late and miss your posted Tee time, you don't play! Do that once, and I guarantee next time you will be on time."The needs of the many outweigh the inconsideration of the few".
I hope others who feel as I do will highlight this suggestion in our yearly villager survay.:icon_wink:

Why do the starters let foresomes wait for their forth person? If they’re late let the other 3 go ahead & start & the person that’s late let them wait until another threesome needs a forth & play with them. Sometimes I come by myself & the starter will do that to me & that’s OK. Remember they say the Executive courses schedule every 7 mins. all day. Some people are inconsiderate about being on time, because they think they’re special. Do this a couple of times to a person & they be there, but if they’re late they’ll probably just complain. These people know who they are & their team mates do too.

stebooo
05-02-2021, 10:00 AM
I don't think I have 3ver experianced anything other than what you suggested. At least on the championship courses. If one person is late the remaining 3 start. When the one late shows up he can join us but can't play whatever he missed.

Dave@TV
05-02-2021, 11:21 AM
In my humble opinion, Tee times should be used as a tool so that players can enjoy a round of golf in a reasonable time. If you constantly send foursomes out 20 to 25 minutes early of their posted Tee time, you end up with 3 foursomes waiting on every tee. Now, I know I will hear "what if someone is late, better to make everyone show up a half hour early!
The easy solution to that problem is if you show up late and miss your posted Tee time, you don't play! Do that once, and I guarantee next time you will be on time."The needs of the many outweigh the inconsideration of the few".
I hope others who feel as I do will highlight this suggestion in our yearly villager survay.:icon_wink:

We have a rule in our group that if you are late for our tee time, you just drive out to whatever hole we are on and join us in progress.

Scbang
05-02-2021, 02:25 PM
Agree. Its a game. Not a life and death situation. Relax and enjoy the day and find something else to stress about
Golf is not life or death situation, it's much more important than that :-)

OhioBuckeye
05-03-2021, 07:31 AM
I don't think I have 3ver experianced anything other than what you suggested. At least on the championship courses. If one person is late the remaining 3 start. When the one late shows up he can join us but can't play whatever he missed.

I agree, I wouldn’t think any golf course wouldn’t let a single person play the holes they miss to catch up. I guess what I was trying to say is if the person is late & there 3 golf mates already left & I would think any golf course would make them fill in a spot with unknown threesome if they want to play, eventually maybe that person would get there on time or get up earlier if they want to play. But your exactly right! Most of the golf courses are booked up & I don’t think they are going to make 20 or 30 people wait for 1 person.