Heads UP VILLAGERS! Unwanted China 'import' to arrive...

[DeanFL]

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China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days

China’s 21-ton Long March 5b rocket is orbiting the planet in a path that could lead to the massive vehicle crashing back to Earth within the next few days, experts warn.

The core stage launched Thursday to deliver the first modular of the nation’s new space station, but instead of returning to a pre-determined post in the ocean, it is predicted to make an uncontrolled reentry - and possibly in an inhabited area.

When the rocket stage falls to Earth, most of it could burn up in the atmosphere, but large pieces could survive that could rain down on populated areas - as the range is nearly 80 percent of the globe.

Space debris trackers observed it moving slowly and unpredictably to Earth over the past few days, and reentry of the vehicle would be one of the largest uncontrolled descents on record.

Long March 5B is about 100 feet long and 16 feet wide and although more than 10 tons of space debris has been left in orbit for an uncontrolled reentry, McDowell said that ‘by current standards it's unacceptable to let it reenter uncontrolled.’


China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/chinas-21-ton-rocket-set-for-uncontrolled-reentry-in-a-few-days/ar-BB1gjpeU)
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[Mortal1]

The sky is falling

[villagetinker]

The previous report indicated the path for the possible debris did NOT include the state of Florida, I think it went from Texas area to the Northeast. About 60% of the path was over water. Just saw that the 'rocket scientists' following this cannot currently predict the final path and entry point as the friction with earths atmosphere is variable. I am guessing they will have a much better prediction in the next few days.

[Dana1963]

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China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days

China’s 21-ton Long March 5b rocket is orbiting the planet in a path that could lead to the massive vehicle crashing back to Earth within the next few days, experts warn.

The core stage launched Thursday to deliver the first modular of the nation’s new space station, but instead of returning to a pre-determined post in the ocean, it is predicted to make an uncontrolled reentry - and possibly in an inhabited area.

When the rocket stage falls to Earth, most of it could burn up in the atmosphere, but large pieces could survive that could rain down on populated areas - as the range is nearly 80 percent of the globe.

Space debris trackers observed it moving slowly and unpredictably to Earth over the past few days, and reentry of the vehicle would be one of the largest uncontrolled descents on record.

Long March 5B is about 100 feet long and 16 feet wide and although more than 10 tons of space debris has been left in orbit for an uncontrolled reentry, McDowell said that ‘by current standards it's unacceptable to let it reenter uncontrolled.’


China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/chinas-21-ton-rocket-set-for-uncontrolled-reentry-in-a-few-days/ar-BB1gjpeU)
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Should I worry about things I have no control of?

[Stu from NYC]

Should I worry about things I have no control of?

Very true plenty of time to worry if they decide it will come down over land.

Would imagine most of it would burn up during reentry

[DeanFL]

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Jonathan McDowell, a spaceflight observer, told the website that since 1990 there have been no instances of any spacecraft over 10 tons that have "been deliberately left in orbit to reenter uncontrolled."

The report said the rocket’s core stage, when empty, is about 21 metric tons in mass. (You can track the rocket here.)

"It’s potentially not good," McDowell said, according to The Guardian. "Last time they launched a Long March 5B rocket they ended up with big long rods of metal flying through the sky and damaging several buildings in the Ivory Coast."

CZ-5B / 48275 / 2021-035B - Satellite Orbit Data (https://orbit.ing-now.com/satellite/48275/2021-035b/cz-5b/)
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[EdFNJ]

It happens to the best of us:

The Day Skylab Crashed to Earth: Facts About the First U.S. Space Station’s Re-Entry - HISTORY (https://www.history.com/news/the-day-skylab-crashed-to-earth-facts-about-the-first-u-s-space-stations-re-entry)

[DAVES]

We vs They-a common thought on most subjects.

Getting our own people, let alone the world to agree on anything as well who will pay for it
seems impossible. Junk in space? More and more is being launched.

Perhaps, a solution would be a lazer in space. Who would pay for it? Would the rest of the world trust us? Would we trust other countries? Will it lead to a space arms race?

Issues, problems are too common. Solutions tend to be too rare and difficult to actually do.

[DAVES]

I just looked it up 71% of the earth is covered in water. Uncontrolled, random 71% chance it will land in the water.

[Topspinmo]

Should I worry about things I have no control of?


Only if it falls on you. But earths covered mostly with water odds are you’re win the powerball 100 times or more before hit by space junk. Now I’m sure somebody will Google and come up with rebuttal? :)

[Topspinmo]

We vs They-a common thought on most subjects.

Getting our own people, let alone the world to agree on anything as well who will pay for it
seems impossible. Junk in space? More and more is being launched.

Perhaps, a solution would be a lazer in space. Who would pay for it? Would the rest of the world trust us? Would we trust other countries? Will it lead to a space arms race?

Issues, problems are too common. Solutions tend to be too rare and difficult to actually do.

They need space trash truck to pickup one year.

[Bogie Shooter]

We vs They-a common thought on most subjects.

Getting our own people, let alone the world to agree on anything as well who will pay for it
seems impossible. Junk in space? More and more is being launched.

Perhaps, a solution would be a lazer in space. Who would pay for it? Would the rest of the world trust us? Would we trust other countries? Will it lead to a space arms race?

Issues, problems are too common. Solutions tend to be too rare and difficult to actually do.
But, but , we now have that wonderful Space Force......

[villagetinker]

Latest indications are NASA will have only hours of notice for the anticipated 'landing' area.

[stanley]

But, but , we now have that wonderful Space Force......

Laugh all you want. Exactly what do you think Russia and China are doing? Don't be so naive.

[DavidCovid]

Don't worry.

There are 767,720,519,000,000 Square Feet of surface on the planet Earth.
If the object is only 160 square feet and a majority of the object will burn before striking the planets surface,
then the chances of this object striking you are in The Villages are ------

1 in 552,000,000,000,000

So, don't worry.....

[chet2020]

People with roofs over 17 years old are crossing their fingers.

[Astron]

If you are interested in space debris look at https://pauldmaley.com/sd1/

[Girlcopper]

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Time to CLOSE our dome covering TV!!


news>>>
China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days

China’s 21-ton Long March 5b rocket is orbiting the planet in a path that could lead to the massive vehicle crashing back to Earth within the next few days, experts warn.

The core stage launched Thursday to deliver the first modular of the nation’s new space station, but instead of returning to a pre-determined post in the ocean, it is predicted to make an uncontrolled reentry - and possibly in an inhabited area.

When the rocket stage falls to Earth, most of it could burn up in the atmosphere, but large pieces could survive that could rain down on populated areas - as the range is nearly 80 percent of the globe.

Space debris trackers observed it moving slowly and unpredictably to Earth over the past few days, and reentry of the vehicle would be one of the largest uncontrolled descents on record.

Long March 5B is about 100 feet long and 16 feet wide and although more than 10 tons of space debris has been left in orbit for an uncontrolled reentry, McDowell said that ‘by current standards it's unacceptable to let it reenter uncontrolled.’


China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/chinas-21-ton-rocket-set-for-uncontrolled-reentry-in-a-few-days/ar-BB1gjpeU)
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Is coming nowhere near Florida no less TV. And even if it was directly aimed for TV, it will most likely burn up upon entry. So, relax, go have a drink at the square

[nick demis]

If you are interested in space debris look at https://pauldmaley.com/sd1/

The average person doesn't want to know how much trash is orbiting the earth. I am amazed that there isn't much more damage to satellites.

[b0bd0herty]

The previous report indicated the path for the possible debris did NOT include the state of Florida, I think it went from Texas area to the Northeast. About 60% of the path was over water. Just saw that the 'rocket scientists' following this cannot currently predict the final path and entry point as the friction with earths atmosphere is variable. I am guessing they will have a much better prediction in the next few days.

Thanks for posting this. The originator posted/quoted, "Space debris trackers observed it moving slowly and unpredictably..."

1) It's not moving slowly... just below orbital speed 7 kilometers per hour (4.35 mph)
2) It's not moving unpredictably... the orbit is defined. The re-entry location is what is unpredictable.

If anyone is really concerned about the possible re-entry point, they can create an account at https://www.space-track.org/ to see the ground track and updates.

OR

[Bucco]

Thanks for posting this. The originator posted/quoted, "Space debris trackers observed it moving slowly and unpredictably..."

1) It's not moving slowly... just below orbital speed 7 kilometers per hour (4.35 mph)
2) It's not moving unpredictably... the orbit is defined. The re-entry location is what is unpredictable.

If anyone is really concerned about the possible re-entry point, they can create an account at https://www.space-track.org/ to see the ground track and updates.

OR

Thanks for the post. My post questioning the info in OP and the source was deleted.

[b0bd0herty]

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CZ-5B / 48275 / 2021-035B - Satellite Orbit Data (https://orbit.ing-now.com/satellite/48275/2021-035b/cz-5b/)
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Awesome link! Thanks

[Bucco]

Xenophobic much? The US has launched many rockets and spacecraft that have had an uncontrolled reentry. A year ago was the spectacular SpaceX booster reentry over Washington State. It happens so often that the Florida legislature is addressing space debris ownership in bills this year, yet when was the last time you herd of someone getting injured? Fallen spacecraft parts: Florida may charge people who keep them | wtsp.com (https://www.wtsp.com/amp/article/tech/science/space/space-debris-florida-crime/67-56a58945-91f2-419c-9d21-c9f24b56e0ae)

You are going to confuse many by using facts to post

[JanetMM]

We vs They-a common thought on most subjects.

Getting our own people, let alone the world to agree on anything as well who will pay for it
seems impossible. Junk in space? More and more is being launched.

Perhaps, a solution would be a lazer in space. Who would pay for it? Would the rest of the world trust us? Would we trust other countries? Will it lead to a space arms race?

Issues, problems are too common. Solutions tend to be too rare and difficult to actually do.

Forget trusting the rest of the world. The way things are today, would WE even trust US? 😱

[Alana33]

Space Debris and Human Spacecraft | NASA (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/news/orbital_debris.html)
We've trashed our planet so now we leave trash and debris in orbit.

[Topspinmo]

Don't worry.

There are 767,720,519,000,000 Square Feet of surface on the planet Earth.
If the object is only 160 square feet and a majority of the object will burn before striking the planets surface,
then the chances of this object striking you are in The Villages are ------

1 in 552,000,000,000,000

So, don't worry.....


I thought all those number was national debt :icon_wink::icon_wink:

[Topspinmo]

Space Debris and Human Spacecraft | NASA (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/news/orbital_debris.html)
We've trashed our planet so now we leave trash and debris in orbit.

Humans are trashy

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Let’s say you have 3 or 4 hours when you find out it may hit somewhere in the central fl area , are you really going to try to jump on the FL turnpike or I 75 to get out of area , I for one would take my chances on staying put then fight the chaos on the road , that’s why I would rather they just don’t tell us lol

[OhioBuckeye]

Actually they don’t know where all of their junk will hit when it does re-enter earth’s atmosphere. After all it is Chinese made, LOL.

[Rodneysblue]

The sky is falling

I'm good, I've got my tinfoil hat on.:boxing2::1rotfl:

[Road-Runner]

Actually they don’t know where all of their junk will hit when it does re-enter earth’s atmosphere. After all it is Chinese made, LOL.

Don't forget, like anything made in China, there's a significant risk of lead poisoning. Just saying..:icon_wink:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Most of it will burn up during re-entry. Since 71% of the earth is covered in water it's likely that it will end up in the ocean. US scientists at NASA are monitoring the situation very closely. If there appears to be a danger to humans, they have ways to minimize the damage.

[DeanFL]

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The latest>


China says falling rocket debris will mostly burn up on reentry, posing little threat to people on the ground
May 7, 2021 Doyle Rice USA TODAY

The Chinese rocket that's reportedly falling uncontrollably to Earth will mostly burn up on reentry, posing little threat to people and property on the ground, the Chinese government reassured the world on Friday.

Speaking in Beijing, foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin said China was closely following the rocket's reentry into the atmosphere, Reuters reported.

"The probability of this process causing harm on the ground is extremely low," he said.

China is paying "great attention to the re-entry of the upper stage of the rocket into the atmosphere," he added.

The section of the rocket, which was launched on April 29 from China, is expected to crash back to Earth sometime Saturday. It could strike an inhabited area, experts warn.
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Well, THAT'S comforting. BTW - factually and scientifically, The Chinese built this rocket to perform exactly as it will. Other countries almost always design their rockets to burn on rentry, or control to an ocean hit. This tech costs more and takes more time. Personally I do not trust some countries AT ALL - China is the top of the list.
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[DeanFL]

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LATEST UPDATE!!!

The Aerospace Corporation @AerospaceCorp
Our latest prediction for #LongMarch5B CZ-5B rocket body reentry is Rocket 09 May 2021 04:19 UTC ± 8 hours along the ground track shown here.

...not to scare anyone in TV - but note the track it took on one of the orbits. Eerily seemed to be RIGHT OVER US!!!
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[PugMom]

The previous report indicated the path for the possible debris did NOT include the state of Florida, I think it went from Texas area to the Northeast. About 60% of the path was over water. Just saw that the 'rocket scientists' following this cannot currently predict the final path and entry point as the friction with earths atmosphere is variable. I am guessing they will have a much better prediction in the next few days.

thank you for a solid & informed reply! :)

[Byte1]

Don't worry. According to my calculations, there is a 99.99% chance that it will impact safely in the Polo field. But to be on the safe side, do not use Buena Vista until after it touches down. :pepper2:

[Gulfcoast]

Reports say that the rocket entered near Maldives and likely crashed into the Indian Ocean.

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Time to CLOSE our dome covering TV!!


news>>>
China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days

China’s 21-ton Long March 5b rocket is orbiting the planet in a path that could lead to the massive vehicle crashing back to Earth within the next few days, experts warn.

The core stage launched Thursday to deliver the first modular of the nation’s new space station, but instead of returning to a pre-determined post in the ocean, it is predicted to make an uncontrolled reentry - and possibly in an inhabited area.

When the rocket stage falls to Earth, most of it could burn up in the atmosphere, but large pieces could survive that could rain down on populated areas - as the range is nearly 80 percent of the globe.

Space debris trackers observed it moving slowly and unpredictably to Earth over the past few days, and reentry of the vehicle would be one of the largest uncontrolled descents on record.

Long March 5B is about 100 feet long and 16 feet wide and although more than 10 tons of space debris has been left in orbit for an uncontrolled reentry, McDowell said that ‘by current standards it's unacceptable to let it reenter uncontrolled.’


China's 21-TON rocket set for uncontrolled reentry in a few days (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/chinas-21-ton-rocket-set-for-uncontrolled-reentry-in-a-few-days/ar-BB1gjpeU)
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And at least 10 more to follow! This is just the beginning of many launches 🚀 while they build a China Space Station! China Space Force ....

[Chi-Town]

Oh well. On to the next one.
China says most rocket debris burned up during reentry (https://apnews.com/article/china-1fdbb66a60c76bf5a692c8c241d4d84c)

[MDLNB]

SARS coronavirus | SARS coronaviruses can be weaponized, says leaked Chinese document released 5 years before COVID-19 pandemic (https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/sars-coronaviruses-can-be-weaponised-says-leaked-chinese-document-released-5-years-before-covid-19-pandemic/754509)

"Chinese military scientists had discussed weaponizing SARS coronaviruses in 2015 and also predicted that World War Three would be fought with biological weapons."