Adding a closet to 3rd bedroom in Gardenia model

[Juliewaters]

We have a Gardenia model and need to add a closet to the 3rd bedroom as it does not have one.
Has anyone hired a contractor to do this?
If so, can you please provide details cost and contact details of the contractor.
Thank you very much
Julie

[thelegges]

We have a Gardenia model and need to add a closet to the 3rd bedroom as it does not have one.
Has anyone hired a contractor to do this?
If so, can you please provide details cost and contact details of the contractor.
Thank you very much
Julie

If you have basic skills, it’s frame work and some doors, Lowe’s or HD will even cut the lumber for you. If not some handyman’s talents are pretty good, without trying to find a contractor for such a small job

[vintageogauge]

Or if you don't need a full wall closet buy a free standing unit.

[shut the front door]

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.

[Stu from NYC]

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.

[tuccillo]

It’s not a 3 bedroom home. It is a 2 bedroom plus a den.


How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.

[New Englander]

It’s not a 3 bedroom home. It is a 2 bedroom plus a den.

:agree: It's a den.

[dhsmith]

ESP installation (Jordan)386-344-2447
5 years ago the price was $1000.00
Did a great job.

[Boomer]

We bought a Gardenia. It's the version of the plan with the windowed arches above the front door, and above the kitchen window and den window. We bought pre-owned. It was all the natural light that comes into a Gardenia that sold me.

Now, you are going to make your home an official 3 bedroom. Good idea.

Mr. Boomer can do the kind of work you need -- but he is not for hire. You should be able to get some suggestions here though.

You have probably thought this all through, but I cannot resist throwing in a few things to think about -- if you have not already.

I don't know if all Gardenias have a cathedral ceiling in the den, but if you do, you might want to think about if you would like for the drywall to follow the angle of the ceiling as the finished look. (I am assuming you are thinking of using the wall that backs up to the bathroom -- but maybe not.) Anyway, you will want someone who is particular about their drywall work so the closet will look like it has always been a part of the room.

You will need to decide if you want sliding doors, bi-fold doors, or French doors. French doors can come pre-hung. Also, discuss finish trim with the person you choose.

A closet is supposed to be a minimum depth of 24 inches for clothes. Rod height has a formula to it, too. If you do not need the closet for mostly hanging clothes, you could have shelves built along the sides in addition to the top shelves and leave a smaller space in the middle for hanging.

Please forgive me for going on and on. I love a good project. And I think your idea to make your Gardenia into a 3 bedroom is brilliant. :)

Boomer

[Stu from NYC]

We bought a Gardenia. It's the version of the plan with the windowed arches above the front door, and above the kitchen window and den window. We bought pre-owned. It was all the natural light that comes into a Gardenia that sold me.

Now, you are going to make your home an official 3 bedroom. Good idea.

Mr. Boomer can do the kind of work you need -- but he is not for hire. You should be able to get some suggestions here though.

You have probably thought this all through, but I cannot resist throwing in a few things to think about -- if you have not already.

I don't know if all Gardenias have a cathedral ceiling in the den, but if you do, you might want to think about if you would like for the drywall to follow the angle of the ceiling as the finished look. (I am assuming you are thinking of using the wall that backs up to the bathroom -- but maybe not.) Anyway, you will want someone who is particular about their drywall work so the closet will look like it has always been a part of the room.

You will need to decide if you want sliding doors, bi-fold doors, or French doors. French doors can come pre-hung. Also, discuss finish trim with the person you choose.

A closet is supposed to be a minimum depth of 24 inches for clothes. Rod height has a formula to it, too. If you do not need the closet for mostly hanging clothes, you could have shelves built along the sides in addition to the top shelves and leave a smaller space in the middle for hanging.

Please forgive me for going on and on. I love a good project. And I think your idea to make your Gardenia into a 3 bedroom is brilliant. :)

Boomer

Call it as you wish but TV calls the closetless bedroom a bedroom.

Sitting in it now as I took it for my office but when the world returns to normal we will also use it as a bedroom. If we had regular guests would add a closet of some sort but it can be used as a bedroom if one wishes.

[DAVES]

We have a Gardenia model and need to add a closet to the 3rd bedroom as it does not have one.
Has anyone hired a contractor to do this?
If so, can you please provide details cost and contact details of the contractor.
Thank you very much
Julie

We also have a Gardenia. I think you had an option to have a closet in the third bedroom that would reduce the size of what I use as an office. Looking at what we have, I would assume where you would put a closet, opposite the window would make it necessary to move the air conditioning duct, as well as rebuild the sunken ceiling.

As someone else suggested using an armoire might be an idea-a solution.

[coffeebean]

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.

From where I’m from, that floor plan should be called a 2 bedroom plus den. A bedroom should have a closet to be called a bedroom. Right???

[CoachKandSportsguy]

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.

Yes, it is a requirement legally, to have a closet for each bedroom. So no, she didn't buy a three bedroom if the third room with a bed doesn't have a closet. .

That's the difference between lay talk and legal talk. . .

lawyer guy

[JSR22]

From where I’m from, that floor plan should be called a 2 bedroom plus den. A bedroom should have a closet to be called a bedroom. Right???

The Villages Gardenia Floor Plan has it as a 2 bedroom and den.

[Stu from NYC]

From where I’m from, that floor plan should be called a 2 bedroom plus den. A bedroom should have a closet to be called a bedroom. Right???

Could well be but when we purchased our Begonia beginning of 2020 all of the literature called it a 3 bedroom.

Besides look at what the Villages sales dept is selling and calling it a 3 bedroom.

[JSR22]

Could well be but when we purchased our Begonia beginning of 2020 all of the literature called it a 3 bedroom.

Besides look at what the Villages sales dept is selling and calling it a 3 bedroom.

If you look at the Begonia FP specifies 2 br and a den. My Gardenia was advertised as a 3 br but front br has a large closet across the wall opposite the window.

[villagetinker]

There were several versions for the Gardenia, we have one and we built. We wanted 3 bedroom, but the was not room for the additional 3rd bedroom, so we have a DEN, no closet, and it was described as 2 bedroom and den.

[Carla B]

Even a den needs a closet. So they should stop being so chintzy and just put a closet in that front room, period.

[Garywt]

When we were looking all these type homes were listed as 2 bedrooms and a den. Every 3 bedroom had 3 closets. Very straight forward.

If the ceiling is normal height is should be an easy job.

[Boomer]

Call it as you wish but TV calls the closetless bedroom a bedroom.

Sitting in it now as I took it for my office but when the world returns to normal we will also use it as a bedroom. If we had regular guests would add a closet of some sort but it can be used as a bedroom if one wishes.

I guess TV marketing has changed. We bought our Gardenia in 2013. It was built in 2007. It was called a 2 bedroom + den.

Of course, you can use it for a bedroom. You can use it for anything you want. But to be an official bedroom — in most places — it needs to have a closet.

And, now, I must digress. It is my curse to do so. . .

Up north where there are basements, people sometimes put what they call bedrooms there. . .

But where I come from, code requires a bedroom to have a window — and for a basement bedroom, not just any window — has to be a window big enough for a fully-equipped firefighter to get through. . .

A single (divorced) friend of mine, who has a whole big house to herself, had such a window put into her basement for a bedroom she did not need. . .

I suspect she is waiting for that fully-equipped firefighter (like the ones on calendars) to come through.

Boomer

[dewilson58]

ToTV thread.................way off topic.
OP, we all know what you mean by 3BRM and adding a closet.
Hope you can find an answer within.

[Stu from NYC]

Decided to pull out the info that came with the house and see what we actually purchased.

The literature that was put out by a properties of the Villages sales rep says the house is 3 bedroom and 2 bath. The reps picture is even on the literature.

The Begonia floor plan does say what we thought was the third bedroom is actually a den. Strangely enough the third bedroom (as we will continue to call it) is actually a drop bigger than the second bedroom (which does come with a closet).

Not going to do anything about it but wow were we misled.

[retiredguy123]

Yes, it is a requirement legally, to have a closet for each bedroom. So no, she didn't buy a three bedroom if the third room with a bed doesn't have a closet. .

That's the difference between lay talk and legal talk. . .

lawyer guy
What law are you referring to?

Florida has adopted the International Residential Code, which is part of the Florida Building Code. The International Residential Code does not require a bedroom to have a closet.

[Boomer]

Decided to pull out the info that came with the house and see what we actually purchased.

The literature that was put out by a properties of the Villages sales rep says the house is 3 bedroom and 2 bath. The reps picture is even on the literature.

The Begonia floor plan does say what we thought was the third bedroom is actually a den. Strangely enough the third bedroom (as we will continue to call it) is actually a drop bigger than the second bedroom (which does come with a closet).

Not going to do anything about it but wow were we misled.

Oh well. Just keep enjoying your room and don’t give its name another thought.

In one of the houses we have had up north, the office/den/no-closet room was called a bedroom by not only the real estate agent, but also by the property tax site. I knew it was not a bedroom, but we liked the house and it had enough bedrooms — and the last thing I wanted to do was rattle the tax guy’s cage to try to get the assessment to list fewer bedrooms. The room became my office and was used by me to type many a TOTV post.

(Btw, yes, like somebody here said, this thread might be slightly off track — but that’s OK. My people call this kind of thing a nice conversation. And nobody is mad at anybody over closet/no closet — although, the evening is yet young. )

And, now, for a segue into TOTV history — about threads jumping the track:

Many years ago when the room here was small because the site had just started, threads would get a little sideways into conversations.

There were those who would holler, “Hijack!” It was hollered in good fun — well. . .usually in good fun.

Anyway, that was when the long-running “Girl Talk” thread was started by Barefoot. “No Boys Allowed” — because everybody knows that women can follow at least 3 — maybe more — conversations at one time — and participate in all of them — and there will be no complaints about staying on topic.

Haven’t any of you guys ever noticed that when you are out to dinner with a woman, she can talk with you while filtering conversations from another table and/or the booth behind you — and fill you in. We can’t help it.

The “Girl Talk” thread is in the Feminine Forum. There you can see the archives of TOTV. It goes way back, jumps from topic to topic, and everybody involved does just fine. (I have not looked at the thread lately. I hope it is still up and running. Maybe I will go check.)

Anyway, thanks for the conversation, and for the OP, I wish all the best with the closet project.

Boomer

[dewilson58]

Not going to do anything about it but wow were we misled.

You can call it what you want...............In-law Suite. :coolsmiley:

It's a perfect Guest Suite...........no closet space so they can't stay toooooo long.

[retiredguy123]

ESP installation (Jordan)386-344-2447
5 years ago the price was $1000.00
Did a great job.
Wow! That was a real bargain. I would estimate that the materials alone would be close to $1,000.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

What law are you referring to?

Florida has adopted the International Residential Code, which is part of the Florida Building Code. The International Residential Code does not require a bedroom to have a closet.

Realtor license school references Section 200 of the Florida Building code.

What is a Bedroom as Defined by Florida Building Code? (https://onebluerealestateschool.com/what-is-a-bedroom/)

but then again, if the TV marketing reps aren't licenses realtors, then they can call it whatever they want, as they have no code of ethics. . .

legal guy who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night :popcorn:

[dhsmith]

A dozen 2by 4s, 48 inch bifold door, 2 sheets of sheetrock and 1/2 gal of paint.

[CFrance]

Oh well. Just keep enjoying your room and don’t give its name another thought.

In one of the houses we have had up north, the office/den/no-closet room was called a bedroom by not only the real estate agent, but also by the property tax site. I knew it was not a bedroom, but we liked the house and it had enough bedrooms — and the last thing I wanted to do was rattle the tax guy’s cage to try to get the assessment to list fewer bedrooms. The room became my office and was used by me to type many a TOTV post.
(Btw, yes, like somebody here said, this thread might be slightly off track — but that’s OK. My people call this kind of thing a nice conversation. And nobody is mad at anybody over closet/no closet — although, the evening is yet young. )

And, now, for a segue into TOTV history — about threads jumping the track:

Many years ago when the room here was small because the site had just started, threads would get a little sideways into conversations.

There were those who would holler, “Hijack!” It was hollered in good fun — well. . .usually in good fun.

Anyway, that was when the long-running “Girl Talk” thread was started by Barefoot. “No Boys Allowed” — because everybody knows that women can follow at least 3 — maybe more — conversations at one time — and participate in all of them — and there will be no complaints about staying on topic.

Haven’t any of you guys ever noticed that when you are out to dinner with a woman, she can talk with you while filtering conversations from another table and/or the booth behind you — and fill you in. We can’t help it.

The “Girl Talk” thread is in the Feminine Forum. There you can see the archives of TOTV. It goes way back, jumps from topic to topic, and everybody involved does just fine. (I have not looked at the thread lately. I hope it is still up and running. Maybe I will go check.)

Anyway, thanks for the conversation, and for the OP, I wish all the best with the closet project.

Boomer

"Haven’t any of you guys ever noticed that when you are out to dinner with a woman, she can talk with you while filtering conversations from another table and/or the booth behind you — and fill you in. We can’t help it"


My husband can do this. That's why I married him!:)

[thevillages2013]

Decided to pull out the info that came with the house and see what we actually purchased.

The literature that was put out by a properties of the Villages sales rep says the house is 3 bedroom and 2 bath. The reps picture is even on the literature.

The Begonia floor plan does say what we thought was the third bedroom is actually a den. Strangely enough the third bedroom (as we will continue to call it) is actually a drop bigger than the second bedroom (which does come with a closet).

Not going to do anything about it but wow were we misled.
First thing you learn as a real estate agent is how to lie:faint:

[mainelovr]

We had a wall bed installed in our first house. When we moved to a Camelia (same floor plan as a Gardenia) we had another wall bed installed. One difference from the old house: we had a closet put in one side of the bed and 2 drawers instead of a dresser. Works great for us!

[FromNY]

Build in draws as well This will eliminate the need for a dresser. Bifold doors work great. Allow for full access.
Lowe's or Home depo have closet section. Go check it out for ideas.

[crash]

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.

Then it is not a bedroom it is a den. The description would be 2 bedrooms and a den.

[crash]

Even a den needs a closet. So they should stop being so chintzy and just put a closet in that front room, period.

It has to do with size of the room not the cost to put in the closet. The room would be very small if they took out 2.5 feet for the closet.

[J1ceasar]

Correct it's a two bedroom plus den, all the real estate agents will tell you otherwise but that's a load of b - s

[TheWarriors]

Just review the tax records for the correct description.

[mydavid]

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR. Technically its a den that could be used as a bedroom.:welcome:

[Stu from NYC]

First thing you learn as a real estate agent is how to lie:faint:

But this lie was in writing.

[dewilson58]

Different locations have Different requirements to be defined as a bedroom.

Some locations DO NOT require a closets.

:ohdear:

[Pat2015]

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.
In the absence of a closet it’s really a 2BR with a den.

[Guitarman1951]

We have a Gardenia model and need to add a closet to the 3rd bedroom as it does not have one.
Has anyone hired a contractor to do this?
If so, can you please provide details cost and contact details of the contractor.
Thank you very much
Julie

We have a big yard with plenty of room to the side of the house where the den is. That room was way too small. We had that outside wall knocked out, the room expanded 10 feet out with a safe room, 7' by 8' added behind that, outside wall of hall bath. We put shelves in that room so it can be used as a walk in closet but had a 36" wide heavy door at the entrance. Since our walls are all solid concrete blocks, we wanted a windowless room that we could use as a safe room during hurricanes, tropical storms or tornadoes. Used it during Irma but also as extra secured storage space. $28,000 but the contractor, out of Tavares, may not be in business anymore. They did an excellent job, McCloskey Homes.

[Rzepecki]

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.

Bedrooms without closets are called “dens”.

[dshoberg]

It’s not a 3 bedroom home. It is a 2 bedroom plus a den.

Exactly....we bought a 2 BR 2BA with a den Begonia

[richs631]

Who cares what it’s called or if it’s legal. The original poster wanted a contractor and cost

[Chi-Town]

A friend has a Gardenia with a murphy bed. Makes for a good den/office with an option to provide a sleeping solution for visiting guests.

[douglange]

Victorian homes never had a closet in the bedroom - so I guess they were bedroomless homes

[MandoMan]

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.

If it doesn’t have a closet, it’s an office or study or hobby room. However, lots of visitors live out of a suitcase and bring hardly any clothes. Often, a sturdy hook screwed into a stud is plenty for any hanging clothes and perhaps a folding suitcase stand.

[MEbner2805]

Where are you going to put a closet when the bathroom is on other side of the wall and right wall is by front door?
Just have the closet companies here to build you one in the corner as a space saver with a shelf and short hanging bar like we do inside our closets! I have a gardenia and that’s a very small room so you don’t want to cut it smaller. An open closet built in corner is a nice add. I just kept mine a nice den with a loveseat and Big TV and small desk.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.
...then it’s NOT a bedroom.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.

...then it’s NOT a bedroom.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Actually state real estate regs say bedrooms must have closets.

[acornhome]

Realtor license school references Section 200 of the Florida Building code.

What is a Bedroom as Defined by Florida Building Code? (https://onebluerealestateschool.com/what-is-a-bedroom/)

but then again, if the TV marketing reps aren't licenses realtors, then they can call it whatever they want, as they have no code of ethics. . .

legal guy who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night :popcorn:

You are wrong. We are all licensed and I have top notch ethics. Please stop dispelling rumors about people who have studied and earn the privilege of selling homes through the state of Florida.
OP: usually the advertising says “ third bedroom without a closet”. Yours didn’t I understand.

[davem4616]

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.

It's not marketed as a 3 BR....it's marketed as 2BR, 1 den or (2-1-2)

[rogerk]

call Doc's Restoration. VERY professional and great quality of work. Great warranty and reliability.

[bxmt54]

When we bought our Begonia in 2011, it was advertised as a 2/2/1. Meaning there were two bedrooms, two baths and a den. I thought that was how it was still listed today for both the gardenia and the begonia.

[Dotneko]

Depends. You can stretch the front or side of a gardenia and add the closet to make it a 3 bedroom. If bedroom or den 3 has a witches hat, then it is stretched.
So, gardenias, begonias, sunflowers can go either 2 or 3 bedrooms

[Daddymac]

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.

It’s NOT a 3 Bedroom, It’s 2 bedrooms and a Den ! :welcome:

[Stu from NYC]

It's not marketed as a 3 BR....it's marketed as 2BR, 1 den or (2-1-2)

Ours was marketed as a 3 bedroom. Even had villages real estate person picture on her offering.

We will still use it as a combo office/bedroom.

The Village Sun has a couple of pages of real estate and almost all houses are listed as 3 bedrooms when the agents know that it is not really true in most cases.

[New Englander]

from where i’m from, that floor plan should be called a 2 bedroom plus den. A bedroom should have a closet to be called a bedroom. Right???

yes

[New Englander]

Decided to pull out the info that came with the house and see what we actually purchased.

The literature that was put out by a properties of the Villages sales rep says the house is 3 bedroom and 2 bath. The reps picture is even on the literature.

The Begonia floor plan does say what we thought was the third bedroom is actually a den. Strangely enough the third bedroom (as we will continue to call it) is actually a drop bigger than the second bedroom (which does come with a closet).

Not going to do anything about it but wow were we misled.

It goes to show you that you can't believe everything the sales dept. tells you.

[pattik]

We have a Gardenia model and need to add a closet to the 3rd bedroom as it does not have one.
Has anyone hired a contractor to do this?
If so, can you please provide details cost and contact details of the contractor.
Thank you very much
Julie

I added a closet to the front bedroom. I put it on the wall to the left. It is 46" wide and 29" deep with a bi-fold door. There's still enough room on the window wall for hanging curtains. The bedroom door opens against this wall, then I have a chest of drawers, then the closet. This left me with the big window and 2 big walls for beds. The closet is a good size and not intrusive. You're welcome to come take a look. The handyman that did it is now retired. I'm not sure what I paid but think it was around $500-600,

[DAVES]

Oh well. Just keep enjoying your room and don’t give its name another thought.

In one of the houses we have had up north, the office/den/no-closet room was called a bedroom by not only the real estate agent, but also by the property tax site. I knew it was not a bedroom, but we liked the house and it had enough bedrooms — and the last thing I wanted to do was rattle the tax guy’s cage to try to get the assessment to list fewer bedrooms. The room became my office and was used by me to type many a TOTV post.

(Btw, yes, like somebody here said, this thread might be slightly off track — but that’s OK. My people call this kind of thing a nice conversation. And nobody is mad at anybody over closet/no closet — although, the evening is yet young. )

And, now, for a segue into TOTV history — about threads jumping the track:

Many years ago when the room here was small because the site had just started, threads would get a little sideways into conversations.

There were those who would holler, “Hijack!” It was hollered in good fun — well. . .usually in good fun.

Anyway, that was when the long-running “Girl Talk” thread was started by Barefoot. “No Boys Allowed” — because everybody knows that women can follow at least 3 — maybe more — conversations at one time — and participate in all of them — and there will be no complaints about staying on topic.

Haven’t any of you guys ever noticed that when you are out to dinner with a woman, she can talk with you while filtering conversations from another table and/or the booth behind you — and fill you in. We can’t help it.

The “Girl Talk” thread is in the Feminine Forum. There you can see the archives of TOTV. It goes way back, jumps from topic to topic, and everybody involved does just fine. (I have not looked at the thread lately. I hope it is still up and running. Maybe I will go check.)

Anyway, thanks for the conversation, and for the OP, I wish all the best with the closet project.

Boomer

On that topic. My dad night before I got married gave me some sage advice. If, you think you understand your wife. You are wrong. On the off chance that you are right
don't be concerned it will shortly be spun so that you are wrong. It is a good thing as we age your hearing gets worse. To the guys, if you say yes just to shut her up, you will later be told but you agreed.

No charge marriage counseling.

[DAVES]

Further proof. People will argue about anything.

In the end-does it really matter.

In terms of adding a closet for guests in a Gardenia. Another option is a HOTEL LIST in your office.

[Stu from NYC]

In todays mail there is an advertisement for a Begonia by a villages agent.

sure enough it says it is a 3/3.

[Spikearoni]

Ours was marketed as a 3 bedroom. Even had villages real estate person picture on her offering.

We will still use it as a combo office/bedroom.

The Village Sun has a couple of pages of real estate and almost all houses are listed as 3 bedrooms when the agents know that it is not really true in most cases.

Some Gardenias, Begonias, and Sunflowers have a closet in all the bedrooms so they can be listed as a 3 bedroom home.

[Spikearoni]

[QUOTE=Stu from NYC;1940826]In todays mail there is an advertisement for a Begonia by a villages agent.

sure enough it says it is a 3/3.[

Then it most likely has a closet in all the bedrooms. Why not call and check it out?

[dhsmith]

Please people give it up they don’t care whether it’s called a bedroom or den they just want to know how much the dam closet will cost to bill.

[Laker14]

Gotta love TOTV... OP asks for referrals for a project.
65 (66 counting this useless post) posts later, OP has received two direct answers, and 40 posts arguing about whether or not the room in question is a bedroom or a den,

now a handful and one posts about threads jumping the track,
and of course, the mandatory handful of "No you don't want to do that, do what I did"s...

I'm going to make this post slightly less useless, I have no first hand knowledge, but I have three close friends who swear by Doc's, as mentioned in a previous post.

I have a Gardenia, myself, with no closet in what I refer to as the "Music-Exercise-Business Office-Guest Room-but not a Bedroom Room". I hope to hear, and see some pictures of your finished result.

Good Luck.

[Stu from NYC]

Gotta love TOTV... OP asks for referrals for a project.
65 (66 counting this useless post) posts later, OP has received two direct answers, and 40 posts arguing about whether or not the room in question is a bedroom or a den,

now a handful and one posts about threads jumping the track,
and of course, the mandatory handful of "No you don't want to do that, do what I did"s...

I'm going to make this post slightly less useless, I have no first hand knowledge, but I have three close friends who swear by Doc's, as mentioned in a previous post.

I have a Gardenia, myself, with no closet in what I refer to as the "Music-Exercise-Business Office-Guest Room-but not a Bedroom Room". I hope to hear, and see some pictures of your finished result.

Good Luck.

By discussing the closet or lack thereof taking peoples mind of their troubles.

[lawgolfer]

We just remodeled a Gardenia and faced the same problem of there being no closet in the 3rd bedroom.

As we were having new cabinets installed in the kitchen, we had the contractor install a pre-fab "pantry" cabinet as a substitute for a closet. He left out the shelf in the bottom part and added a clothes rod. These "pantry" cabinets are available in single door and double door and range up to 36" in width. The top part of the cabinet will hold one or two shelves. Home Depot and Lowe's have many models of pantry cabinets.

One cabinet should be sufficient for short-term visitors. If you want more space, add a second cabinet.

The cabinets look great and their use avoids the muss or fuss of installing sheetrock and painting as would be required when adding a conventional closet.

[Bellavita]

Legally it is no a bedroom without a closet. They us den or possible 3rd bedroom

[meme5x]

Jerry Donna, who is with Patriots built a closet in den of our Gardenia in the corner.. didn’t take up a lot of room and hence, qualified as 3rd bedroom.. did spectacular job!

[dewilson58]

Actually state real estate regs say bedrooms must have closets.

Not all states.

[Barborv]

I'm looking to expand my closet in my master bedroom. I made a appt. with T and D construction, Wickham construction , Gingerich construction. I figured I need a construction company because they will have to break open to the outside of house and expand on the side. We had a closet built in our garage last year by Greg Corne . 352-212-4850

[Stu from NYC]

I'm looking to expand my closet in my master bedroom. I made a appt. with T and D construction, Wickham construction , Gingerich construction. I figured I need a construction company because they will have to break open to the outside of house and expand on the side. We had a closet built in our garage last year by Greg Corne . 352-212-4850

Will the ARC approve this since your expanding the house?

[Juliewaters]

ESP installation (Jordan)386-344-2447
5 years ago the price was $1000.00
Did a great job.

Thank you so vey much for the referral. I called Jordan at ESP installations and he installed a closet. He did an absolutely beautiful job and I am so happy now that I have a closet in the bedroom.
Thanks again