Morals

[mauryg]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

[RICH1]

I'll wear my mask until my financial advisor informs me that I am running out of money!

[Marathon Man]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

Hmm. Seems to me that anyone who asks this is due for a moral checkup.

[Toymeister]

Masks only protect others from you. That doesn't connect to morals if you were vaccinated. It is a conversation about logic.

If the question is 'how do I minimize my chances of getting the virus' then this is a conversation on getting the vaccine. Again it doesn't involve morals.

[vintageogauge]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

The person is only stating a fact, don't try reading too much into it.

[PugMom]

please! no more mask threads!:duck:

[billethkid]

:icon_bored:

[Lindsyburnsy]

Just wear a mask where appropriate and quit making this an issue! Good grief.



I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

[Stu from NYC]

Mask threads do kind of keep on coming and coming and .

[drducat]

Nothing much is going to change as long as the origin of Covid-19 is not given out to the public....masks for ever....maybe, at least Fauci thinks seasonal mask wearing vaccine or not. https://twitter.com/i/status/1391475688104988673

and here is the original video from today..Full Fauci Interview: Instead of Covid Spikes, We 'May See Blips' | Meet The Press | NBC News - YouTube (https://youtu.be/tbeCxbd8El8)

[GrumpyOldMan]

Nothing much is going to change as long as the origin of Covid-19 is not given out to the public...

What a sad comment that people still believe conspiracies. The entire world has been hoodwinked... sad really sad.

[Tmarkwald]

Just wear a mask where appropriate and quit making this an issue! Good grief.

Once you're vaccinated, there is no appropriate place since you cannot get covid nor give it. It's just stupid.

[GrumpyOldMan]

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[drducat]

The source of this conspiracy theory is one of the leaders of pushing bad info, lies if you wii, then making up conspiracies that shallow folks might believe....WorldNet

You are right...we are continually getting sucked in by con artists and liars, and never hold them responsible.

Sad is a minor word to describe. Used to feel sorry for those saps who believe this, and pass it on, but now just anger because it is flat out tearing this country down

To be fair, Fox News also pushed. It was about the time our government was attacking him in every personal way possible

Fox News Pushing Conspiracy That Fauci Created Coronavirus (https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-pushing-conspiracy-that-fauci-created-coronavirus-2021-1)

Actually the investigation includes well documented materials due tot the fact grant money was used for gain of function experiment and has been going on for over a year now....I would not want to be Fauci right now...they have him tied pretty close to the CCP.

Don't know what Fox has to say about this at all.

[Bill14564]

Nothing much is going to change as long as the origin of Covid-19 is not given out to the public....masks for ever....maybe, at least Fauci thinks seasonal mask wearing vaccine or not. https://twitter.com/i/status/1391475688104988673

and here is the original video from today..Full Fauci Interview: Instead of Covid Spikes, We 'May See Blips' | Meet The Press | NBC News - YouTube (https://youtu.be/tbeCxbd8El8)

What a sad comment that people still believe conspiracies. The entire world has been hoodwinked... sad really sad.

I will let you argue with the Congress investigation and the findings then. The conspiracy is the virus came from a bat cave....good grief.

Just what difference does that make?! If it came from a bat then we don't need to get vaccinated and/or wear a mask but if it came from a lab we do? The vaccine is effective if it came from a lab but not if it came from a cave? 580,000 people did not die if it came from a cave but they did if it came from a lab?

What point are you trying to make and what difference will it make if you convince people to believe you are right?

[Taltarzac725]

Here’s How Scientists Know the Coronavirus Wasn’t Made in a Lab | Snopes.com (https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/13/heres-how-scientists-know-the-coronavirus-wasnt-made-in-a-lab/)

Hope this puts this to bed.

I wear a mask when I go shopping or to the movies, etc. But if there are only a few people in the movie theater auditorium I take it off when the movie trailers start or maybe even before that. And someone were to come in and sit a few feet from me, it would come back on. They might have a variant I was not protected from with my two Moderna vaccinations.

[b0bd0herty]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

Yes. Yes I am. :MOJE_whot:

[Billy1]

I am.

[Dahabs]

Once you're vaccinated, there is no appropriate place since you cannot get covid nor give it. It's just stupid.

Wrong, you can transmit the disease even if vaccinated.

[Tmarkwald]

Yes. Yes I am. :MOJE_whot:

Agreed. Same here. You can't fix.. you know.. the thing...

[nick demis]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

Since I am in the "minority" and "offended" by those that wear masks, how come I am not favored like everyone else that is in the "minority" and "offended"?

[nick demis]

Here’s How Scientists Know the Coronavirus Wasn’t Made in a Lab | Snopes.com (https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/13/heres-how-scientists-know-the-coronavirus-wasnt-made-in-a-lab/)

Hope this puts this to bed.

I wear a mask when I go shopping or to the movies, etc. But if there are only a few people in the movie theater auditorium I take it off when the movie trailers start or maybe even before that. And someone were to come in and sit a few feet from me, it would come back on. They might have a variant I was not protected from with my two Moderna vaccinations.

Why would you put it back on? They chose to sit close to you. Let them sit elsewhere. Time to stop caving into the "righteous ones".

[Girlcopper]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?
Masks. Masks. Masks. This is like beating a dead horse. Wear it where its mandated. Take it off when allowed. Simple.

[Tmarkwald]

Since I am in the "minority" and "offended" by those that wear masks, how come I am not favored like everyone else that is in the "minority" and "offended"?
Yeah, no kidding. It's like there is a 'Mask Privilege' doctrine.

[J1ceasar]

It depends on the person, I think if someone says that, it's simply common sense on their part and no morality play. If I hold a door open in the supermarket for the person behind me is that a morality play? Or just being nice? I think you need to check your Morales at home and keep wearing your mask and stop worrying about little things like this

[Tmarkwald]

I think you need to ... keep wearing your mask

Good for you. Enjoy. We aren't playing the game any more.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

I think that they are only expressing their person choice. It's up to others to decide whether they believe that is superior morally.

It's quite possible that people that choose not to wear a mask feel that they are highly unlikely to spread the virus. That doesn't make them less moral, it only says that they have a different opinion.

By the way I heard on television that in fact if you have been vaccinated that you are indeed highly unlikely to spread the virus. Experts, including Dr Fauci have been saying for a long time that it is almost impossible to spread the virus outdoors. If people feel that they should wear a mask outdoors that's their right. I personally don't think that it makes them morally superior. I do think that it makes them uninformed but that is only my opinion.

[Juliebythesea]

Yes I really feel it’s no problem. Wear a mask for a while. What’s the big deal?

[Raybob]

It's called respect for others and common sense.

[Raybob]

A mask doesn't prevent either. It reduces the risk and reduces the symptoms.

[Bay Kid]

It's called respect for others and common sense.

Created guilt.

[Just Me]

I am still uncomfortable being in close proximity with others. I suffer with allergies and sneeze fits often. I realize that masks may have contributed to escaping the flu and common colds last year. Is it possible some of the above mentioned mask irritations aren’t really about someone wearing a mask?

[Astron]

Once you're vaccinated, there is no appropriate place since you cannot get covid nor give it. It's just stupid.

I understand that you feel that your beliefs are every bit as valid as the results of evolving scientific evidence and the advice of experts. For those that trust science and experts, I refer you to When You’ve Been Fully Vaccinated | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html).

[rlcooper70]

There is a lot of new information .... the latest published Israeli study of vaccinated nurses shows 0.14% chance of getting the virus and nearly 0% (0.03%) of getting any symptoms at all. If you are vaccinated you are not getting the virus and you are not spreading the virus either. Wearing a mask is a polite 'nod' to society. Vaccination is the key.

[Dantes]

It’s been over 420 days of Covid your still here Covid is over no more mask
My freedom doesn’t end when your fears begin

[mcwood4d]

Simply stated masks (not respirators) protect others more than the person wearing the mask especially if the mask has EVER been used before.... [Think of a hospital operating room].

Best way to protect yourself is by practicing rigorous hand hygiene and guarding against any contact with a surface that you do not control... Do you touch your seat belt buckle or inside car door after shopping AND before sanitizing your hands?

Then there's the whole conversation about vaccination...

Be well, enjoy your life ... Do what's best for you and yours...just think.

[davem4616]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?



I seem to recall the Lone Ranger saying these exact words to Tonto toward the end of the very first episode of that series

:popcorn::popcorn:

[Carlsondm]

You are reading too much into a brief statement. Ask the speaker if you have questions. I would make the same statement about masks since I have been vaccinated and feel stronger than before. I also wear the mask to slightly protect me from variants.

[Tmarkwald]

It's called respect for others and common sense.

That makes no sense.

I don't like the color lavender. out of respect for me don't wear that color.

Common sense is not smoking because it is the easiest preventable cause of cancer.

Wearing a mask is most certainly not common sense.

[Bill14564]

It’s been over 420 days of Covid your still here Covid is over no more mask
My freedom doesn’t end when your fears begin

There were over 1,000 people Friday who wouldn't agree with you today. Fact is, they can't agree with anything today, they died of Covid over the weekend. Covid may be over for you but it is not for the tens of thousands contracting it each day and the hundreds dying from it each day.

You do you but don't spread misinformation that could get others killed.

[Blackbird45]

Wearing a mask should not be a moral issue. The way I see it, if the experts are wrong like a fool I've been walking around for months with a piece of cloth strapped to my face. If on the other hand they are 1% right I could not only be saving my life, but also a love one.
I think I'll be a fool until the death toll hits 0.

[Tmarkwald]

There were over 1,000 people Friday who wouldn't agree with you today. Fact is, they can't agree with anything today, they died of Covid over the weekend.

And not a single one was vaccinated..

Darwin - hard at working weeding them out

[Ptmckiou]

Only a simple statement of fact. You wear masks to stop your spittle from reaching others, thereby protecting them. If everyone wears a mask everyone is protected from each other’s spit. Unless you wear an N 95 mask , all masks don’t protect you, but protect others. Morally right thing to do in my opinion. Everyone makes their own decision as to what they want.

[Bill14564]

SNOPES!!! Hahahahahaha.
Most biased source ever...hahahaha

Snopes ... omg ... the least credible there is...

If Snopes is the most biased source ever and the least credible there is then you haven't been paying attention to the BS that is being spread around these message boards.

Somehow the terms "biased" and "least credible" no longer have to do with truth but have come to mean "not what I want to believe."

[LG999]

Maury, its a simple statement.

[Tmarkwald]

You wear masks to stop your spittle from reaching others, thereby protecting them.

Protecting THEM from WHAT?

THEM = anti-vaxxers. I do not care.

WHAT = Spittle? I've never has a problem holding in my spittle and I am too old to start spitting now...

[Eg_cruz]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?
Why are we always trying to find fault in others.........somethings are just what they are without any underline meanings.
I say that all the time if someone ask why I wear one. I just think if the workers but their health on the line I should do my part. No high grounds just a simple reason

Stop looking for faults or underline meanings......just say “Nice of you to think of others”

[Eg_cruz]

Protecting THEM from WHAT?

THEM = anti-vaxxers. I do not care.

WHAT = Spittle? I've never has a problem holding in my spittle and I am too old to start spitting now...
I so over all you vaxxiers saying if you don’t get the shot we don’t care......I am really over it.
You have no idea why people choose to have or not have the stupid shot. But I thing I know for sure EVERYONE has the right to choose what is best for them and their families.......period.
You want the shot god bless go get it all day long no one should care, I not going to try to you all the reason you shouldn’t get it.....on the same note if I don’t want to get one you should do the same.
I have been against vaccine for over 30 years. So I am not going to just jump in with my eyes wide shut because it’s the thing to do.
So stop judging others.....you don’t know what you don’t know

[Gulfcoast]

It’s been over 420 days of Covid your still here Covid is over no more mask
My freedom doesn’t end when your fears begin

This. Over a year later we now know more about the virus (it is not nearly as deadly as once feared), doctors know how to treat it, hospitals are not being overwhelmed by Covid patients and they never have been. Plus, there is a vaccine now - woohoo!

I saw a video recently posted on Youtube of people enjoying a nice day in Brownwood Square. I didn't see too many masks. The reality is, people are moving beyond Covid and getting on with their lives. Go to any surrounding beach town and you will see exactly what I mean. This is no longer 2020 - thank goodness!

[Joe C.]

I wear the mask to protect ME. As in protect me from assaulting anyone who gets in my face if I'm not wearing one.

[Tmarkwald]

I wear the mask to protect ME. As in protect me from assaulting anyone who gets in my face if I'm not wearing one.

hmmm, good point! hahahaha

[Tmarkwald]

It's a deal. That should settle it

Rock On

[MDLNB]

Only a simple statement of fact. You wear masks to stop your spittle from reaching others, thereby protecting them. If everyone wears a mask everyone is protected from each other’s spit. Unless you wear an N 95 mask , all masks don’t protect you, but protect others. Morally right thing to do in my opinion. Everyone makes their own decision as to what they want.
Not "moral" at all. It's just a matter of opinion. If you are vaccinated and still wear a mask, either you are wearing it due to mandates or you have no confidence in the vaccination.

[MDLNB]

COVID-19: Leaked Chinese document reveals a sinister plan to ‘unleash’ coronaviruses (https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/leaked-chinese-document-reveals-a-sinister-plan-to-unleash-coronaviruses/news-story/53674e8108ad5a655e07e990daa85465)

"A leaked 2015 government paper has revealed a discussion by top Chinese scientists who said a virus could be “unleashed in way never seen before”."

[Gulfcoast]

Not "moral" at all. It's just a matter of opinion. If you are vaccinated and still wear a mask, either you are wearing it due to mandates or you have no confidence in the vaccination.

Oh, but "The strains! The strains!". It's like a bad Fantasy Island episode.

[lindaelane]

There were three stages in U.S. government statements about masks (stage 1) they do not help you (stage 2) they help others, but not you (stage 3) they help you and hope others.

- It is possible the person saying they wear the mask for others never heard the stage 3 information, or heard it but disbelieved it.

I personally thought stage 2 was very strange. How was it masks could prevent aerosols leaving my mask but not entering it. Eventually someone opined that it prevented large drops if I sneezed which helped others, but neither their mask nor mine stopped all aerosols. (That is what I now believe, and yes, I wore a mask before vaccination and still wear it so as not to scare anyone.)

[Jokomo]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

Yes. And they’re right.

[GPGuar]

please! no more mask threads!:duck:

People just can’t help themselves, they see a mask thread and MUST reply! How many so far.... 50,60 threads?

[DAVES]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

People tend to spin things to justify what they think.

I for one wonder why some think masks are such a big deal a life intrusion. It seems to be the same people. My dog is a service dog, I bought him/her/it a vest on ebay. Parking spots for disabled. Why can't I park there, my son in law is a doctor and got me a hang tag and everything. So many other examples, I could fill pages.

[Tmarkwald]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

Well, they are actually making an effort to protect people that do not want to be protected. Which is ridiculous....

[CMink]

It’s a quote that is used by medical professionals when they walk into your hospital or exam room after visiting other patients to protect you from something they may have contracted in the ward. It is known that a mask does not protect the wearer from someone else’s illness, but rather the other individual. That is why a patient or other also wears a mask if they have a contagious disease or compromised immune system, to protect others from catching what they may harbor. Not everybody knows this so some make it a point to say it. But I do detect a bit of snootiness by some who say it cause they think others need to be grateful to be accommodated for their sacrifice. But I ignore this tone as I wear mine in their presence and rather look them in the eye and say “thank you - what goes around comes around” very matter of factly and move on. Nothing is for nothing, if it ain’t for free. But and I say but, there is new evidence that a mask does protect the wearer to some extent as well. I agree with this finding, so in retrospect it’s all good.

[Tblue]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

If you are wearing the mask to protect others then there is the assumption you may have the disease and are capturing some of virus in the mask, a very good thing. However I have been asking this question from day 1 of this mess: What do you do with that mask after you remove it? Generally after use of the mask (contaminated mask) most all people put in back in their purse, pocket or console of their car. Just maybe, and I say maybe this practice of mask wearing has help spread this mess? I am not “anti mask” but if you a mask use a clean on every time and proper disposal of the dirty mask every time, oops who does that?

[Eg_cruz]

But don't expect US to protect YOU from YOURSELF or change our lifestyle to accommodate those who like to take chances with their health.

easy enough!
Never asked you TOO and I NEVER WILL
Just like in 10 years when they find out oops.....I won’t ask you then either and you do the same
There no reason to be so angry and ugly

[Eg_cruz]

Facebook Post Repeats Flawed Claim on Wuhan Lab Funding - FactCheck.org (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/facebook-post-repeats-flawed-claim-on-wuhan-lab-funding/)

Fact check: Obama administration did not send $3.7M to Wuhan lab (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/04/fact-check-obama-administration-did-not-send-3-7-m-wuhan-lab/3061490001/)

No, Obama did not give $US3.7m to the Wuhan Institute of Virology - ABC News (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-16/coronacheck-obama-wuhan-institute-of-virology/12228386)

Fact Check: Did Barack Obama, Dr Anthony Fauci & Melinda Gates Visit Wuhan Lab? (https://thelogicalindian.com/fact-check/barack-obama-dr-anthony-fauci-melinda-gates-lab-wuhan-china-bat-22431)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/11/how-misinformation-filtered-through-fox-news-conservative-media-became-trump-administration-policy/

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-photo-obama-fauci-melinda-g/fact-checkphotodoes-not-show-obama-fauci-and-melinda-gates-at-wuhan-lab-in-2015-idUSKCN24I25R

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/22/fact-check-viral-photo-shows-obama-fauci-visiting-nih-lab-2014/5476106002/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/30/blog-posting/obama-administration-did-not-provide-38-million-wu/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-admin-wuhan-lab-grant/

https://www.axios.com/bat-borne-coronaviruses-trump-nih-funding-cut-30f3aac9-39d3-476a-ba8c-e84a8ee87949.html

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/26/rudy-giulianis-bizarre-covid-19-conspiracy-theory-obama-granted-nih-grant-to-wuhan-lab--in-2017_partner/
What a hot mess

[kenoc7]

I often hear this said: "I wear my mask for the benefit of others."

Is the person making that statement also claiming a moral superiority over persons who choose not to wear masks and not benefit others?

Not "moral superiority," just concern for the common good and public health.

[Tmarkwald]

Not "moral superiority," just concern for the common good and public health.

If it actually did any good, I'd agree.

But it doesn't ..

[Looking for next wife]

Yes, for sure, and rightly so.

[GrumpyOldMan]

If it actually did any good, I'd agree.

But it doesn't ..

Following the advice of experts in a field does do good. The advice may or may not always work, the advice may not be the best possible advice at any time, but in the long run, following the advice of experts in a given field will do the most good.

[JOLIVERIO]

Is it the entire world that’s being hoodwinked or is it just you?

[Tmarkwald]

Never asked you TOO and I NEVER WILL
Just like in 10 years when they find out oops.....I won’t ask you then either and you do the same
There no reason to be so angry and ugly

Not angry! Not ugly!

Just a bit frustrated when people tell me I have to wear a mask for THEM!

I am not the Lone Ranger!