First FULLY VACCINATED flight from Florida to NJ

[coffeebean]

I'm am so relieved to see this being tested.........

First fully vaccinated flight carries passengers from Florida to New York (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/first-fully-vaccinated-flight-carries-230229302.html)

[stanley]

Excuse me but........................they are vaccinated and still wearing masks? Or am I missing something?

[Bill14564]

Excuse me but........................they are vaccinated and still wearing masks? Or am I missing something?

Agreed.

So very sad that something like this is being celebrated! Fully vaccinated yet still afraid of the virus and *these* are the people we are cheering for :(

Fill in the blank:
I am fully vaccinated against ______ and yet I am still so afraid that I feel the right to demand all those around me be vaccinated too, and I am damn proud to feel that way.

[Carla B]

It's an airline rule. Recently a guy was kicked off a flight (SW, think) for not masking while eating a snack.

[Art cov]

Seems like a lot of phony baloney going on! Some want to stay on the same old subjects or find a way to talk of mask and vaccines all the time. While the country is getting worse and worse. Hypocrisy everywhere, shortages in every industry, buckle up we are in for a ride! Food, tp, gas, lots of difficulty ahead. Have faith in God!

[coffeebean]

Excuse me but........................they are vaccinated and still wearing masks? Or am I missing something?

Isn't there a government mandate for masking on airline flights? That might be the reason for the masking. I see no reason why a new precedent could see a relaxation of this mandate for fully vaccinated flights. Then people can eat on airplanes without having to mask between bites and sips. (Honestly the silliest guidance to come out of this pandemic).

[coffeebean]

It's an airline rule. Recently a guy was kicked off a flight (SW, think) for not masking while eating a snack.

Yes, and according to the guy who was kicked off, he was not aware of that masking rule to mask between bites.

[Gulfcoast]

So the fully vaccinated passengers are masked on the plane but when they get off of the plane they are reunited with relatives who are largely not wearing masks?

[stanley]

So the fully vaccinated passengers are masked on the plane but when they get off of the plane they are reunited with relatives who are largely not wearing masks?

Correct :ohdear:

[Bonnevie]

perhaps this group of people will be studied so that future flights can be maskless. people want to just start doing things before research is completed. I understand that some people find wearing a mask more burdensome than others, but I prefer erring on the side of caution.

[stanley]

perhaps this group of people will be studied so that future flights can be maskless. people want to just start doing things before research is completed. I understand that some people find wearing a mask more burdensome than others, but I prefer erring on the side of caution.

Studied? Why? To show that vaccinated people wearing masks cannot get or give the "virus"?
For the life of me I cannot understand it

[Gulfcoast]

The whole purpose of getting vaccinated in the first place is so that you no longer have to worry about this nonsense. Or at least that is my view.

[Cobullymom]

Yes, and according to the guy who was kicked off, he was not aware of that masking rule to mask between bites.
Does the virus know when your eating, to stay away....

[Cobullymom]

Agreed.

So very sad that something like this is being celebrated! Fully vaccinated yet still afraid of the virus and *these* are the people we are cheering for :(

Fill in the blank:
I am fully vaccinated against ______ and yet I am still so afraid that I feel the right to demand all those around me be vaccinated too, and I am damn proud to feel that way.
Thank you for saving me the trouble of writing this..

[drducat]

According to the CDC the count as of the end of April there are 9000 plus cases of breakthru covid19 of those fully vaccinated.

[golfing eagles]

According to the CDC the count as of the end of April there are 9000 plus cases of breakthru covid19 of those fully vaccinated.

2 weeks ago the number the CDC gave was 5,318 breakthrough cases. Was it revised to 9,000 a few days later, maybe. But you left out the denominator of 85,000,000 making the rate 0.008%. Did they revise the denominator as well???? If it went to 100 million, then YOUR rate is now 0.009%.-----BFD

[drducat]

2 weeks ago the number the CDC gave was 5,318 breakthrough cases. Was it revised to 9,000 a few days later, maybe. But you left out the denominator of 85,000,000 making the rate 0.008%. Did they revise the denominator as well???? If it went to 100 million, then YOUR rate is now 0.009%.-----BFD

Read on cdc site today......the count is not zero as some claim that's all...

[golfing eagles]

Read on cdc site today......the count is not zero as some claim that's all...

Doubt it will ever be zero. After all, 24 people/year are killed by champagne corks, 13 are killed by toppling vending machines, and 150 are killed by falling coconuts.

That doesn't mean we live in fear of coconuts or walk around everywhere with a steel umbrella.

[stanley]

After all, 24 people/year are killed by champagne corks, .

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

"You'll shoot yer eye out kid"

[Gulfcoast]

Doubt it will ever be zero. After all, 24 people/year are killed by champagne corks, 13 are killed by toppling vending machines, and 150 are killed by falling coconuts.

That doesn't mean we live in fear of coconuts or walk around everywhere with a steel umbrella.

Ack, don't give anyone any ideas!

[Two Bills]

Agreed.

So very sad that something like this is being celebrated! Fully vaccinated yet still afraid of the virus and *these* are the people we are cheering for :(

Fill in the blank:
I am fully vaccinated against ______ and yet I am still so afraid that I feel the right to demand all those around me be vaccinated too, and I am damn proud to feel that way.

Pretty sure it was not the passengers who wanted to keep their masks on.
I am fully vaccinated, and would love to fly without a mask, however, it is not us passengers who are making the rules.
You are kicking the wrong dog!

[NoMoSno]

Seems kind of silly to pull your mask down between bites of food or sip of a drink, then pull it back up after a bite.
Thought we were told NOT to touch your mask?

[golfing eagles]

Seems kind of silly to pull your mask down between bites of food or sip of a drink, then pull it back up after a bite.
Thought we were told NOT to touch your mask?

Actually, the silly part is that they require you to do this while they pack you into an enclosed space like sardines

[jimjamuser]

Agreed.

So very sad that something like this is being celebrated! Fully vaccinated yet still afraid of the virus and *these* are the people we are cheering for :(

Fill in the blank:
I am fully vaccinated against ______ and yet I am still so afraid that I feel the right to demand all those around me be vaccinated too, and I am damn proud to feel that way.
I celebrate it!!!!!! What do you expect? We as a country were very, very close to driving CV to zero and into the history books. But, no......the anti-vaxxer propaganda swept in from Moscow and the anarchists, and the unpatriotic, and the outright society-hating types talked up and relayed that propaganda. So, now they have succeeded in stopping US Health and Medical Science in its tracks. There is even crazy, crazy talk being circulated like that Dr. Fauci started the CV. Are we in a MENTAL hospital or what?

The only thing left is for vaccinated people to group together to keep their sanity and TRY (?) to continue keeping the US economy floating. We were so close - we could have STOPPED the CV from mutating in the US.

[jimjamuser]

Seems like a lot of phony baloney going on! Some want to stay on the same old subjects or find a way to talk of mask and vaccines all the time. While the country is getting worse and worse. Hypocrisy everywhere, shortages in every industry, buckle up we are in for a ride! Food, tp, gas, lots of difficulty ahead. Have faith in God!
I think that the country is improving. We stopped short of fascism - that has to be a positive.

[jimjamuser]

2 weeks ago the number the CDC gave was 5,318 breakthrough cases. Was it revised to 9,000 a few days later, maybe. But you left out the denominator of 85,000,000 making the rate 0.008%. Did they revise the denominator as well???? If it went to 100 million, then YOUR rate is now 0.009%.-----BFD
Thanks for bringing truth and logic to the subject.

[jimjamuser]

Seems kind of silly to pull your mask down between bites of food or sip of a drink, then pull it back up after a bite.
Thought we were told NOT to touch your mask?
What IS silly IS quibbling about something of very minor importance.

[coffeebean]

So the fully vaccinated passengers are masked on the plane but when they get off of the plane they are reunited with relatives who are largely not wearing masks?

Isn't there a federal mandate for everyone to be masked on airplanes? Even though the passengers were all vaccinated, don't they still have to abide by the federal mandate? Maybe if fully vaccinated flights are in our future, federal mask mandates can be relaxed for those flights.

[drstevens]

can be found at
Just a moment... (https://thecovidblog.com/)

[coffeebean]

Does the virus know when your eating, to stay away....

I get what you are saying. The masking between bites and sips is to minimize the amount of virus (if the person is infected but asymptomatic) that escapes their nose and mouth. It is all about the viral load that can potentially be in the exposure to an unsuspecting person who is close to them in proximity. This silly rule has nothing to do with protecting the wearer of the mask.

Believe me, I think this rule is ludicrous but I understand the reasoning for it. I will never eat on an airplane as long as these ridiculous rules are in effect. I have, however, mastered how to take sips of a drink in between masking.

[coffeebean]

According to the CDC the count as of the end of April there are 9000 plus cases of breakthru covid19 of those fully vaccinated.

That is actually a FANTASTIC stat after MILLIONS of doses given of these vaccines. There have been no reported deaths directly from the mRNA vaccines that again.....fantastic news. I wonder how many hospitalizations have occurred from these breakthrough infections? THAT would be an interesting stat. Anyone know?

[NoMoSno]

What IS silly IS quibbling about something of very minor importance.
Seems the CDC thinks it's not of "minor importance"
"Wash your hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds or use hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol after touching or removing your mask."
Airlines are not following CDC guidelines.
COVID-19: Considerations for Wearing Masks | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html)

[coffeebean]

Seems kind of silly to pull your mask down between bites of food or sip of a drink, then pull it back up after a bite.
Thought we were told NOT to touch your mask?
When I pull my mask down, I pull it from very edges of the mask that touch my cheeks near my ears. That is the safest way I have found to pull it down.

[MDLNB]

Who cares? Mass hysteria and a bunch of cult worshipers of Fauci, the Dr that hasn't practiced medicine in over 50 years. Run little lemmings. Now, he is telling everyone of his cult peons and worshipers that they must continue to wear masks as a future part of their new lifestyles. Fauci may or may not be a good man, but he is definitely a political hack and for that reason I do not trust or like him. But by all means, bow to him and those that have their boots upon your necks. And it ain't COPs that are holding you down and keeping you from breathing. You are willingly doing what you are being conned to do. Oh, but wearing a mask as part of your future attire is such a small thing to do. "IT's the patriotic thing to do" ha,ha. BS!

[JMintzer]

When I pull my mask down, I pull it from very edges of the mask that touch my cheeks near my ears. That is the safest way I have found to pull it down.

Any testing to prove that?

Where do you think most of the air is escaping? Out of the sides of the mask. In other words, by your "cheeks and ears"...

If anything, I'd unloop the mask from behind my hear, but even that is fiddling with the mask, defeating the entire purpose of wearing it...

[Two Bills]

Who cares? Mass hysteria and a bunch of cult worshipers of Fauci, the Dr that hasn't practiced medicine in over 50 years. Run little lemmings. Now, he is telling everyone of his cult peons and worshipers that they must continue to wear masks as a future part of their new lifestyles. Fauci may or may not be a good man, but he is definitely a political hack and for that reason I do not trust or like him. But by all means, bow to him and those that have their boots upon your necks. And it ain't COPs that are holding you down and keeping you from breathing. You are willingly doing what you are being conned to do. Oh, but wearing a mask as part of your future attire is such a small thing to do. "IT's the patriotic thing to do" ha,ha. BS!

You tell'em mate.
You know your rights.
Now lets see you get on a flight without wearing one! :icon_wink:

[MDLNB]

You tell'em mate.
You know your rights.
Now lets see you get on a flight without wearing one! :icon_wink:


Been on all the flights I needed to go on and I never wore a mask. I don't plan to fly ever again and they can't make me wear a mask in my own car. I went along with the mask cr@p before the vaccinations, but I am not a cult member of the mask society now that I've had my shots. Going to get on with my life. Never wore a mask for any illness in my lifetime and am not going to subscribe to the mask hysteria now. The mask did serve it's purpose and I applaud all those that reluctantly went along with the well meant idea of lowering the fatality stats. Time to move on and return to normal life. I am not going to wear a mask just because some seem intent on comparing it to wearing a seat belt. I am not worried about becoming infected, so if you are worried about me infecting you, I have my shots and will not infect you. If you are still worried, then stay your distance.

Live long and prosper.

[coffeebean]

Who cares? Mass hysteria and a bunch of cult worshipers of Fauci, the Dr that hasn't practiced medicine in over 50 years. Run little lemmings. Now, he is telling everyone of his cult peons and worshipers that they must continue to wear masks as a future part of their new lifestyles. Fauci may or may not be a good man, but he is definitely a political hack and for that reason I do not trust or like him. But by all means, bow to him and those that have their boots upon your necks. And it ain't COPs that are holding you down and keeping you from breathing. You are willingly doing what you are being conned to do. Oh, but wearing a mask as part of your future attire is such a small thing to do. "IT's the patriotic thing to do" ha,ha. BS!

As of yesterday, I made a decision to follow the signage on any establishment that I desire to enter.

If the sign says, "Masks REQUIRED" - I wear my mask.

If the sign says, "Masks RECOMMENDED" - I will not wear a mask.

If there is no posted sign - I will not wear a mask.

I feel liberated not always having to mask up. Hubby is on the same page as me.

[coffeebean]

Any testing to prove that?

Where do you think most of the air is escaping? Out of the sides of the mask. In other words, by your "cheeks and ears"...

If anything, I'd unloop the mask from behind my hear, but even that is fiddling with the mask, defeating the entire purpose of wearing it...

I have no idea if there is testing or not. I just never touched my mask in the front but there is absolutely no science to that as far as I know. As for the escaping of air, my masks fit pretty snug on the sides of my face. That masking/unmasking is what I have been doing when I go to the gym. They have had a policy that a mask must be worn at all times with the exception of when you are actively working out (being that you are stationary and not moving about in the gym). I also use the sanitizer to clean the touch points on every machine when I'm done using that machine.

As of yesterday, I stopped wearing my mask at the gym because their signage now says, "Masks RECOMMENDED" and is no longer required. Baby steps, right?

[jimjamuser]

Who cares? Mass hysteria and a bunch of cult worshipers of Fauci, the Dr that hasn't practiced medicine in over 50 years. Run little lemmings. Now, he is telling everyone of his cult peons and worshipers that they must continue to wear masks as a future part of their new lifestyles. Fauci may or may not be a good man, but he is definitely a political hack and for that reason I do not trust or like him. But by all means, bow to him and those that have their boots upon your necks. And it ain't COPs that are holding you down and keeping you from breathing. You are willingly doing what you are being conned to do. Oh, but wearing a mask as part of your future attire is such a small thing to do. "IT's the patriotic thing to do" ha,ha. BS!
Dr.Fauci is a national treasure. He devoted his life to helping people. I respect that! Wearing masks stopped the regular flu in its tracks in both the US and Australia. Thus, again proving the worth of masks. Dr. Fauci probably knows that the anti-vaxxers will screw up the US attempt to drive CV to zero. That is why we may need to keep our masks on for years. Do NOT dare to blame Dr. Fauci when it is the vaccine-hesitant and the anti-vaxxers that are to blame for ANY inconvenience from masks. Just ask who is to blame as the CV mutates into more deadly variants. Hint.......it is NOT Dr. Fauci!

[drducat]

Listen to Fauci lie...in front of Congress no less... Play of words on funding...He funded using grant money Nih money was not directly to be used in China as Fauci allowed to happen..His statement is misleading.. Senator Rand Paul presses Dr. Fauci on COVID origins | On Air Videos | Fox News (https://video.foxnews.com/v/6253684543001#sp=show-clips)

[Aloha1]

I think that the country is improving. We stopped short of fascism - that has to be a positive.

You just had to make this thread political , didn't you? Some would say the specter of fascism started this January.

[Aloha1]

Dr.Fauci is a national treasure. He devoted his life to helping people. I respect that! Wearing masks stopped the regular flu in its tracks in both the US and Australia. Thus, again proving the worth of masks. Dr. Fauci probably knows that the anti-vaxxers will screw up the US attempt to drive CV to zero. That is why we may need to keep our masks on for years. Do NOT dare to blame Dr. Fauci when it is the vaccine-hesitant and the anti-vaxxers that are to blame for ANY inconvenience from masks. Just ask who is to blame as the CV mutates into more deadly variants. Hint.......it is NOT Dr. Fauci!

Get off it about Fauci and try to learn his history. He is NOT a "national Treasure". He is complicit in the deaths of half a million Americans.

[jimjamuser]

As of yesterday, I made a decision to follow the signage on any establishment that I desire to enter.

If the sign says, "Masks REQUIRED" - I wear my mask.

If the sign says, "Masks RECOMMENDED" - I will not wear a mask.

If there is no posted sign - I will not wear a mask.

I feel liberated not always having to mask up. Hubby is on the same page as me.
Personally, I would rather decide an issue that affects myself and society by myself. I would NOT want to have a restaurant owner or manager making my decisions for me.

[MDLNB]

Personally, I would rather decide an issue that affects myself and society by myself. I would NOT want to have a restaurant owner or manager making my decisions for me.


Unless Fauci tells you, right?:)

[golfing eagles]

As of yesterday, I made a decision to follow the signage on any establishment that I desire to enter.

If the sign says, "Masks REQUIRED" - I wear my mask.

If the sign says, "Masks RECOMMENDED" - I will not wear a mask.

If there is no posted sign - I will not wear a mask.

I feel liberated not always having to mask up. Hubby is on the same page as me.

Couldn't agree more!

[stanley]

Unless Fauci tells you, right?:)
:boom:

[jimjamuser]

Listen to Fauci lie...in front of Congress no less... Play of words on funding...He funded using grant money Nih money was not directly to be used in China as Fauci allowed to happen..His statement is misleading.. Senator Rand Paul presses Dr. Fauci on COVID origins | On Air Videos | Fox News (https://video.foxnews.com/v/6253684543001#sp=show-clips)
Yes, click on a link to a source of propaganda. And Paul is a total empty suit! Someone has their heroes reversed. Too bad, so sad!

[jimjamuser]

You just had to make this thread political , didn't you? Some would say the specter of fascism started this January.
Sorry you feel that way. I thought you believed in free speech. Or is it just speech that suits yourself?

[JMintzer]

Sorry you feel that way. I thought you believed in free speech. Or is it just speech that suits yourself?

At the very top of every page of this website. You know, the one in which you agreed to follow the rules?

"NO POLITICAL REFERENCES ARE ALLOWED ON THE WEBSITE. "

But sure, "Free Speech"... SMDH...

[jimjamuser]

Get off it about Fauci and try to learn his history. He is NOT a "national Treasure". He is complicit in the deaths of half a million Americans.
Dr. Fauci killed 500,000 Americans - that's cute. What alternate dimension was THAT pulled out of? Not a dimension that I live in. When we look back at the History of what happened in this Pandemic, Dr. Fauci will stand out as a beacon of truth and light. These weird misinformation and propaganda agendas will be laughed at as outliers to History. Warning.......dark media are pushing Russian propaganda and older people living in conservative areas like TV Land are rich and easy targets. TV Land is full of patriots, but they need to be careful that their patriotism is NOT twisted around and used for unpatriotic purposes! Be wary! Remember what patriotism meant in the 1950s and 60s. Think of the Biblical warning, " beware false idols"!

[jimjamuser]

Unless Fauci tells you, right?:)
Dr. Fauci is generally considered the world's leading epidemiologist! He sort of out credentials the local restaurant manager. I don't understand why that comparison occurred to you?

[jimjamuser]

At the very top of every page of this website. You know, the one in which you agreed to follow the rules?

"NO POLITICAL REFERENCES ARE ALLOWED ON THE WEBSITE. "

But sure, "Free Speech"... SMDH...
I have been following the rules. You are just jumping on the bandwagon with some other poster who takes offense at everything I write! I appreciate your paying attention. We are all trying to spread good information around the halls of TV Land!

[JMintzer]

I have been following the rules. You are just jumping on the bandwagon with some other poster who takes offense at everything I write! I appreciate your paying attention. We are all trying to spread good information around the halls of TV Land!

https://media4.giphy.com/media/1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu/giphy.gif

[stanley]

You are just jumping on the bandwagon with some other poster who takes offense at everything I write!

"some "other" poster"..................:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[MDLNB]

"some "other" poster"..................:1rotfl::1rotfl:



:thumbup: :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

Personally, I would rather decide an issue that affects myself and society by myself. I would NOT want to have a restaurant owner or manager making my decisions for me.

I can choose not to enter the establishment if I am THAT adamant about not wearing a mask. I'm not that obstinate. Their house, their rules. That's how I see it.

[Joe V.]

Yes, click on a link to a source of propaganda. And Paul is a total empty suit! Someone has their heroes reversed. Too bad, so sad!


Here, you do some of your own research to see who is lying. I gave you a head start.