The ugly side of exec golf...

[Mortal1]

*sigh* I'm a 5'3" target for those self entitled golfers who know more than 55+ years experience at a fairly decent level of amateur golf...this clown and his wife kept their cart parked within the depth of the green thinking they were safe from the tee. Even after numerous attempts to get them to move further from the green side cart path(my wife drove down and asked them to please get outta range) and a call of "FORE" from two people, a ball zipping past the front of their cart, the person with a huge ignorance chip on their shoulder insisted they had moved far enough from the side of the green.

The afore mentioned person then got in my face and threatened me with a beating(never make the first move...you'll be held accountable). I stood my ground and put up with his mouthy attitude even with proof they were wrong on so many things. It wasn't until my 6'5" playing partner got out of his cart that he quickly backed off and drove off.

Why are there some of you out there that think the rules don't apply to them??? Go somewhere else!

[Bogie Shooter]

Phone number on card.
Call starter shack
Ask for Ambassador.

[rustyp]

It must be me and also the time of day but I need help in digesting this story.

[stanley]

It must be me and also the time of day but I need help in digesting this story.

Not so much digesting....but comprehending

[Topspinmo]

I don’t worry about it, I just hit the ball, remember golfers are not responsible for errand shots. You’re on the course you’re responsible to duck and cover.

[graciegirl]

I'm still figuring out if this guy is five three. AND where the folks parked and apparently it was a par three? I thought you had to wait for the hole ahead to clear or be well out of range before you hit.

I don't understand what Mortal is telling us.

[bobdeb]

I'm still figuring out if this guy is five three. AND where the folks parked and apparently it was a par three? I thought you had to wait for the hole ahead to clear or be well out of range before you hit.

I don't understand what Mortal is telling us.

And I thought it was just me...

[JoMar]

I'm still figuring out if this guy is five three. AND where the folks parked and apparently it was a par three? I thought you had to wait for the hole ahead to clear or be well out of range before you hit.

I don't understand what Mortal is telling us.

When you finish playing the hole put your putter away and clear the area. As I understand the op, the people in front of them did not clear but stayed by the side of the green....entering a score, discussing the hole, cleaning clubs before putting them into the bag or whatever else was going on. Also, if they were parked next to the green that could mean on the path or actually next to the green. Either way it goes with golfers who don't understand the etiquette or the game or don't care...you know, like raking traps, fixing divots and ball marks.

[golfing eagles]

When you finish playing the hole put your putter away and clear the area. As I understand the op, the people in front of them did not clear but stayed by the side of the green....entering a score, discussing the hole, cleaning clubs before putting them into the bag or whatever else was going on. Also, if they were parked next to the green that could mean on the path or actually next to the green. Either way it goes with golfers who don't understand the etiquette or the game or don't care...you know, like raking traps, fixing divots and ball marks.

What I fail to understand is that the group didn't move after someone drove up and asked them to leave the greenside area. And they didn't move when "fore!" was yelled. And they didn't move when a ball came through the area in which they were parked. Perhaps it was the last hole and these people felt they didn't have to move once they were "done"? Or they were suicidal? Or there is more to the story, since there was a verbal interaction from the person who drove up and "asked" them to move? As with most stories of this nature, I'd love to hear the other side.

[cafw1]

Just call the Ambassador to handle the problem. The phone number to call is on the card. I didn't know about this until someone enlightened me. The next time I'm in front of a group that doesn't know the etiquette I'll call the Ambassador.

[Paul1934]

Not if you are purposely aiming at or disregarding the likelihood of the person being hit.

[Bay Kid]

The heat was getting to him.

[Rosebud1949]

*sigh* I'm a 5'3" target for those self entitled golfers who know more than 55+ years experience at a fairly decent level of amateur golf...this clown and his wife kept their cart parked within the depth of the green thinking they were safe from the tee. Even after numerous attempts to get them to move further from the green side cart path(my wife drove down and asked them to please get outta range) and a call of "FORE" from two people, a ball zipping past the front of their cart, the person with a huge ignorance chip on their shoulder insisted they had moved far enough from the side of the green.

The afore mentioned person then got in my face and threatened me with a beating(never make the first move...you'll be held accountable). I stood my ground and put up with his mouthy attitude even with proof they were wrong on so many things. It wasn't until my 6'5" playing partner got out of his cart that he quickly backed off and drove off.

Why are there some of you out there that think the rules don't apply to them??? Go somewhere else!


NOTHING its just a normal day in the Villages where some folk feel they are entitled to do what they want. From not waiting in line. to expecting their groceries to be packed "because they live in Bridgeport Miona" to the golf course to the PB Courts etc etc. How sad that the last years of our lives should be spoiled by those who think this way.

[Jayhawk]

I'm still figuring out if this guy is five three. AND where the folks parked and apparently it was a par three? I thought you had to wait for the hole ahead to clear or be well out of range before you hit.

I don't understand what Mortal is telling us.

Most of the OP's rants are the same. Just changes the names to protect the innocent.

:pray:

[Larchap49]

I'm still figuring out if this guy is five three. AND where the folks parked and apparently it was a par three? I thought you had to wait for the hole ahead to clear or be well out of range before you hit.

I don't understand what Mortal is telling us.

He's telling you so e a-hole finished the hole then sat in his cart next to the green and did not move. Then he got threatening when it was pointed out that he should move e away from the green so the next group could play. Seemed pretty clear to me, it's not rocket science

[Jayhawk]

He's telling you so e a-hole finished the hole then sat in his cart next to the green and did not move. Then he got threatening when it was pointed out that he should move e away from the green so the next group could play. Seemed pretty clear to me, it's not rocket science

Just spitballing here, but I bet there is more to the story. Or less.

:ho:

[golfing eagles]

He's telling you so e a-hole finished the hole then sat in his cart next to the green and did not move. Then he got threatening when it was pointed out that he should move e away from the green so the next group could play. Seemed pretty clear to me, it's not rocket science

What he POSTED is pretty clear. Is there more to it? What would the other side have to say? Yep, it's not "rocket science"

[bilcon]

I don’t worry about it, I just hit the ball, remember golfers are not responsible for errand shots. You’re on the course you’re responsible to duck and cover.

Wrong. If you hit a shot and someone is still in range, or if you don't yell fore, you can be held responsible if you hit them. The rule is you drive away from the green after you finish putting. I see it all the time on executive courses. People stay next to the green under a shade tree while the next group is trying to tee off. Dumb.

[karostay]

Friendliest Home Town :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I'm still figuring out if this guy is five three. AND where the folks parked and apparently it was a par three? I thought you had to wait for the hole ahead to clear or be well out of range before you hit.

I don't understand what Mortal is telling us.

I'm confused about this as well.

[DaleDivine]

Just call the Ambassador to handle the problem. The phone number to call is on the card. I didn't know about this until someone enlightened me. The next time I'm in front of a group that doesn't know the etiquette I'll call the Ambassador.

On some exec courses Turtle Mound and Sandhill for example have ONE ambassador to cover both courses. By the time you get through to the starter shack and he sends them from the 4th hole of Sandhill to the 4th hole at Turtle Mound, those people will be home having lunch or supper. PLUS on some holes you almost have to drive upon the group in front of you on the tee box because it's such a short distance from the previous green to the next tee box.
:ohdear::ohdear:

[DeanFL]

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Our experience re TV golf... been here over 7 years. Played (primarily) Exec golf 3 to 4 times every week. Math shows that's approx 1,300 rounds over that time. Of course we encountered 'slow' groups ahead. But truly - a very small % where we saw infractions as the OP indicated - moving away from the green etc etc. A few times the Ambassador came by and said there's a backup with some groups ahead but he told them to speed up. This has NOT been an issue for us as it seems to happen so seldom to us. Maybe we're just lucky...

One time about a year ago - I was the guy in trouble with the Ambassador. We were on a par 4 hole #1 at Bacall - about 330 yards to hole. The group ahead had a couple "chopper golfers", and finally when they seemed to be 250 yards down the fairway I decided to tee off. I hit my best drive...ever... right down the middle and had to go 240 plus a 10 yard roll. Yikes. but....it rolled right to the feet of the slowest golfer ahead. She turned around and yelled something with her arms up. I felt bad...but also good...

Apparently the Ambassador was at the green, saw it and she told him. He came to us when the others were teeing off. Friendly warning for me to wait longer - I told him I NEVER drive that far... he laughed and said - great drive, but be careful.

I felt really bad, so drove up to the next Tee to apologize. 3 of the 4 understood and laughed it off - she was still yelling at me "You could have hurt me!!!". Lesson learned by me... my bad.
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[nick demis]

On some exec courses Turtle Mound and Sandhill for example have ONE ambassador to cover both courses. By the time you get through to the starter shack and he sends them from the 4th hole of Sandhill to the 4th hole at Turtle Mound, those people will be home having lunch or supper. PLUS on some holes you almost have to drive upon the group in front of you on the tee box because it's such a short distance from the previous green to the next tee box.
:ohdear::ohdear:

Even if the ambassador doesn't show up until it is to late, records are kept on who plays. If you identify who you are, they can determine who was playing in front of you. If they threatened you, they can be identified and justice can prevail.
The biggest problem is that people undertake an activity but don't understand the etiquette of the activity, or that are just A**es.

[Billy1]

I have learned not to get on the tee box, this seems to irritate people that believe your rushing them and they purposely slow down. Although, I did pair with a guy once that started inventorying his bag after the ninth hole. I was parked behind him and was waiting, the golfer behind us hit up to his cart, I drove around him and left because I felt he was wrong. Don't know what happened.

[golfing eagles]

Behavior of this type is not confined to exec courses. Typically, linked groups will hang out just left of #9 of Fort Walton, the hydrophobic 2nd shot pull will target them nicely. Then there was a group of 2 couples on #5 Destin last year. We finished #4, and pulled around to our tee on #5 (blue), which is about 70 yards behind the yellow tee that the 2 women were just walking up to. A man with them was screaming at us, telling us to go back to the last green, waving his arms like an idiot. He came up to us and yelled "my wife doesn't like anyone to watch when she hits. (I guess that doesn't include the 3 players she's with). I couldn't help myself---I suggested he spend 3+ million, buy his own course, and his wife could have no further worries. Demanding total privacy on a public course-----might be one of the best definitions of entitlement yet.

[Waltdisney4life]

What time did you have to be at work that you were in such a hurry?
Last time I checked it’s the score you put on the card not how quickly you play!

[chuckpedrey]

How about just relaxing and waiting a couple of extra minutes for the group in front to head for the next tee? The best tee time to avoid slow play in front of you is 7:30 am.

[richs631]

*sigh* I'm a 5'3" target for those self entitled golfers who know more than 55+ years experience at a fairly decent level of amateur golf...this clown and his wife kept their cart parked within the depth of the green thinking they were safe from the tee. Even after numerous attempts to get them to move further from the green side cart path(my wife drove down and asked them to please get outta range) and a call of "FORE" from two people, a ball zipping past the front of their cart, the person with a huge ignorance chip on their shoulder insisted they had moved far enough from the side of the green.

The afore mentioned person then got in my face and threatened me with a beating(never make the first move...you'll be held accountable). I stood my ground and put up with his mouthy attitude even with proof they were wrong on so many things. It wasn't until my 6'5" playing partner got out of his cart that he quickly backed off and drove off.

Why are there some of you out there that think the rules don't apply to them??? Go somewhere else!

With all due respect if your playing executive golf WAIT until there off the green. It’s that simple

[MandoMan]

*sigh* I'm a 5'3" target for those self entitled golfers who know more than 55+ years experience at a fairly decent level of amateur golf...this clown and his wife kept their cart parked within the depth of the green thinking they were safe from the tee. Even after numerous attempts to get them to move further from the green side cart path(my wife drove down and asked them to please get outta range) and a call of "FORE" from two people, a ball zipping past the front of their cart, the person with a huge ignorance chip on their shoulder insisted they had moved far enough from the side of the green.

The afore mentioned person then got in my face and threatened me with a beating(never make the first move...you'll be held accountable). I stood my ground and put up with his mouthy attitude even with proof they were wrong on so many things. It wasn't until my 6'5" playing partner got out of his cart that he quickly backed off and drove off.

Why are there some of you out there that think the rules don't apply to them??? Go somewhere else!

Given how relaxing things are here, I’m startled by the anger and quick tempers I sometimes see, including my own. Yesterday morning I turned my car into a driveway in the Historic District, apparently without using my turn signal, though I believe I did. Apart from a golf cart a couple hundred feet behind me, there was no traffic in sight. Despite that, the driver stopped to yell at me for thinking I was privileged (in my ten year old Prius) and didn’t have to follow the law and use my turn signal. (I’m a stickler for trying to always signal and always come to a complete stop at stop signs.)

A couple days ago a golf cart on Morse swerved into the car lane and I tapped my horn to let him know I was there, not realizing he was swerving to keep from hitting a bicycle (which I couldn’t see because of the golf cart). He gave me the finger! When I saw the bicycle, I lowered my window and yelled out an apology.

If a golfer hits a ball into my garden behind my house, I don’t mind if he (it’s always a he) comes into the garden to pick up the ball, but it makes me furious if he tries to hit it from my garden, risking hitting my birdcage. (And would he write down the penalty stroke if he picked it up? Fat chance!)

It’s not an excess of testosterone. So why are so many of us so easily provoked to anger?

[Daddymac]

I'm still figuring out if this guy is five three. AND where the folks parked and apparently it was a par three? I thought you had to wait for the hole ahead to clear or be well out of range before you hit.

I don't understand what Mortal is telling us.
When you finish your hole, pull up “towards” the next Tee Box, Away from the green you just played So the next people can Tee Off Safely.

[JMintzer]

After watching some of these golfers, sitting right next to the green is one of the safest places to be...

Standing right next to the pin is probably the safest! (Runs away, ducking for cover...) ;)

[Stu from NYC]

When you finish your hole, pull up “towards” the next Tee Box, Away from the green you just played So the next people can Tee Off Safely.

If they do not move away from the green think of your next shot as target practice.:a040:

[stebooo]

It's not clear . On the executive courses. If you are handicapped you can park close to the green, but then I'm sure you knew this. One never hits until the green is cleared including carts. But then with55 yes experiances you knew that to so are you mouthing off because of slow play?. Good luck in life if my scenerio is correct

[tophcfa]

It's not clear . On the executive courses. If you are handicapped you can park close to the green, but then I'm sure you knew this. One never hits until the green is cleared including carts. But then with55 yes experiances you knew that to so are you mouthing off because of slow play?. Good luck in life if my scenerio is correct

Third executive course complaint thread started in a week. That would indicate your scenario is spot on.

[golfing eagles]

What time did you have to be at work that you were in such a hurry?
Last time I checked it’s the score you put on the card not how quickly you play!

How about just relaxing and waiting a couple of extra minutes for the group in front to head for the next tee? The best tee time to avoid slow play in front of you is 7:30 am.

It's not clear . On the executive courses. If you are handicapped you can park close to the green, but then I'm sure you knew this. One never hits until the green is cleared including carts. But then with55 yes experiances you knew that to so are you mouthing off because of slow play?. Good luck in life if my scenerio is correct

I don't think that was the point the OP was trying to make. He wasn't commenting on the pace of play nor was he planning on hitting before the group ahead left the green. He was put off by the fact that the group ahead had left the green and was "lollygagging" on the cart path next to green, creating an unsafe situation, despite multiple warnings. At least that is his side of the story.

I really can't speak to what happens on exec courses since I never play them, but standard etiquette is to move off in a timely fashion after you finish the hole. That means don't sit there and record scores, talk on your cell phone, read "War and Peace", or my favorite----screw around in your bag for 3-4 minutes. Do all that at the next tee.

[billethkid]

More accurate title

The ugly "incident" of exec golf.....
that day
that course
that time
that group

The rest of the times and rest of courses, any day, mostly enjoyable.

[rustyp]

The one and only post the OP has made in this thread is the very first post. Any interpretations of what that confusing post was trying to communicate since post #1 is just that - an interpretation. None of those interpretations have been responded to or verified by the OP.

[Two Bills]

Given the OP's previous Executive Course encounters, with playing parners, etiquet etc, I think he is just a very unfortunate golfer.
He seems to have had a problem on each round he plays.
Certanly had more over the last week or two, than wife and I have had in 20+ years!

[turk3531]

Villagers are entitled. .rules are for the other guy. Ifm you don't believe me, watch them driving!

[Dotneko]

Sounds like the OP has a case of little man syndrome.
There were numerous attempts to communicate with the group in front AND they hit a ball near the cart in question. Two wrongs dont make a right and OP was trying to 'learn them fools a lesson about clearing the green'. He's a wanna be policeman in more than one aspect of his life lol

[Luc582]

Unfortunately, some folks think that this is their world only, oblivious to the fact that it is shared thus ignoring rules and regulations.

[cj1040]

Lol for the day....just amazing..

[tsmall22204]

Why didn't they call their mommy. Sounds like children anyway not getting their way on the playground.

[J1ceasar]

Very funny but probably true. Too many entitled seniors with senility or brain freeze playing golf. Lucky me my eyes will never allow me to play golf or become an airplane pilot

[golfing eagles]

Very funny but probably true. Too many entitled seniors with senility or brain freeze playing golf. Lucky me my eyes will never allow me to play golf or become an airplane pilot

Don't you mean "lucky for the rest of us"?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[yankygrl]

Contact the ambassador and let them handle the slow play OR being played on.