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golfgal44
05-21-2021, 06:31 AM
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

asianthree
05-21-2021, 07:21 AM
OP we were down day before they went public. We walked all the sites that were on the course. Only a few you could hear a low drone from the turnpike. Except for the 2 unsold pie shape that backs to road, and the two lots that have what looks like a path between houses, we didn’t find anything about the lots we didn’t like. The views are great of the course, and sawgrass is just down the street. At this time there are only 5 lots not sold.
I didn’t notice the green space you are speaking of. Your rep should be able to go to your lot and zoom with you, as he walks the lot.
If your rep can’t answer, not sure if you can get an answer higher up.

Aces4
05-21-2021, 07:57 AM
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!


Personally, I would run, not walk away from that deal. First of all, your realtor should have advised you by now for what purpose that property is designated or who owns it. It’s not brain surgery and if we have learned anything in our long lives it is not to buy next to or near vacant property. Who knows, maybe it will be a dog park! :MOJE_whot:

VApeople
05-21-2021, 08:12 AM
I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it.

All he has to do is drive down there and look at it. We rode our bikes thru there on Sunday. The open space has some kind of nasty looking electric transformers or something like that, but nothing tall. They are planning to build houses very close to it. I don't think it would affect your new house on Danielson.


Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke.

We rode our bikes along Danielson. The views of the new course are beautiful but some houses may be hit by wayward golf shots from hole #7. Yes, you will hear noise from the turnpike.

We will probably ride our bikes out there on Sunday so we can take some pictures and send them to you if you can describe exactly where your lot is.


If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

In April 2016, we put down $10K to reserve a lot. When we got here in May, we had the option of changing to a different lot or using the money to buy an existing new home, commonly called a 'spec' home. We kept the lot we had reserved, saw a designer on July 9th to finalize our plans for a new house, and moved into the new house Oct 1.

At least that is how things worked five years ago.

graciegirl
05-21-2021, 08:17 AM
Personally, I would run, not walk away from that deal. First of all, your realtor should have advised you by now for what purpose that property is designated or who owns it. It’s not brain surgery and if we have learned anything in our long lives it is not to buy next to or near vacant property. Who knows, maybe it will be a dog park! :MOJE_whot:

I would find a person who knows how to use a Drone with a camera.

All the new areas I have seen have hidden underground power lines. Ours does too, it is ten years old and our first home here had hidden power lines fifteen years ago.

I would not be afraid of being hoodwinked. The sales reps can sell as many homes as they have time for. They don't have to slip one by anybody.

Any homes near it you can find on Trulia or Realtor.com and see images?

Aces4
05-21-2021, 08:23 AM
I would find a person who knows how to use a Drone with a camera.

All the new areas I have seen have hidden underground power lines. Ours does too, it is ten years old and our first home here had hidden power lines fifteen years ago.

I would not be afraid of being hoodwinked. The sales reps can sell as many homes as they have time for. They don't have to slip one by anybody.

Any homes near it you can find on Trulia or Realtor.com and see images?


I think that’s a reach, Graciegirl, not to be diligent in your research because you wouldn’t be “hoodwinked”. We’ve both been here long enough to remember the stories of the train noise, sewer station aromas and retention ponds that are allowed to go back to nature and none of the future owners were advised of these issues prior to purchasing.

Altavia
05-21-2021, 08:34 AM
There is no "perfect" lot, all have compromises depending on your preferences.

The average Villager moves 3 times. The way prices are increasing, the financial risk is low if you find a location you like better 1+ year from now.

rtime
05-21-2021, 08:43 AM
land in question belongs to Florida Power,

Altavia
05-21-2021, 08:43 AM
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All the new areas I have seen have hidden underground power lines. Ours does too, it is ten years old and our first home here had hidden power lines fifteen years ago.



The utilities can do mostly what ever they want on their easements.

SECO recently added power distribution poles/lines after homes were sold in Chitty Chatty.

A large gasline clean out station is being built near the turnpike at Monarch Grove after homes were sold.

So there is risk if the area in question becomes a power distribution facility.

Papa_lecki
05-21-2021, 09:02 AM
Also, consider whether or not you want to be on a golf course. 7 days a week, 365 from 7AM to 3 or 4PM, you will have people in your back yard. Make sure you are at a location “in between” 2 shots (i.e. not where a typical drive might land)

graciegirl
05-21-2021, 10:43 AM
I think that’s a reach, Graciegirl, not to be diligent in your research because you wouldn’t be “hoodwinked”. We’ve both been here long enough to remember the stories of the train noise, sewer station aromas and retention ponds that are allowed to go back to nature and none of the future owners were advised of these issues prior to purchasing.



Train noise you say? Retention ponds going back to nature? Sewer station aromas.

Boy Howdy. I remember them. Folks back then had eyes, ears, and noses too. Wonder how Jan likes Plant City?

kstew43
05-21-2021, 11:46 AM
I would find a person who knows how to use a Drone with a camera.

All the new areas I have seen have hidden underground power lines. Ours does too, it is ten years old and our first home here had hidden power lines fifteen years ago.

I would not be afraid of being hoodwinked. The sales reps can sell as many homes as they have time for. They don't have to slip one by anybody.

Any homes near it you can find on Trulia or Realtor.com and see images?

The new areas south of 44 have huge A frame power lines, front and center.Its difficult to find a new home without some sort of power line in plain view, trust me, we have been looking. But some people don't seem to mind them, we do.

Stu from NYC
05-21-2021, 12:14 PM
Amazing that people pay huge amounts for lots and do not pay much attention to their surroundings when doing so.

Why would anyone want to build near an Interstate or huge power lines?

Would definitely pay more for a better location.

cbv0211
05-21-2021, 12:53 PM
It appears that the back of your house (lanai) will face the Turnpike based on the description of your location. The Turnpike is on the opposite side of the golf course and you will definitely hear Turnpike noise. Your lot may have a pretty view of the golf course but the constant noise from the Turnpike would be a deal breaker for us.

Road-Runner
05-21-2021, 01:47 PM
We chose Bradford because it was far enough away from the turnpike that at least so far we've never heard it even late at night when things are quiet. We also weren't keen on power lines which we also avoided in Bradford. We're not on a pond, but otherwise the perfect spot for us.

golfgal44
05-21-2021, 02:17 PM
The lot is not on the golf course. It’s in the middle of Danielson with the back of lot facing a retention pond. The cross street is near james street. At the end of Danielson I’d the golf course.

golfgal44
05-21-2021, 02:38 PM
The lot is not on the golf course. It’s in the middle of Danielson and at the middle of pond with the back of lot facing a retention pond. The cross street is near james street. At the end of Danielson, is the golf course. The only lots available large enough to hold a three car garage, with a view, not on a corner, or near electrical towers, we’re in citrus grove. We’ve been looking since October. There was Always an issue, such as towers in back yard, cart path practically in the back yard, kissing lanais, too close to rec centers, etc.

vintageogauge
05-21-2021, 05:05 PM
The new areas south of 44 have huge A frame power lines, front and center.Its difficult to find a new home without some sort of power line in plain view, trust me, we have been looking. But some people don't seem to mind them, we do.

There are hundreds if not thousands of homes down here that do not have a view of a power line. Look a little harder they are all over the place. Start with Fenney, the most populous of all villages and the only power lines are on 468 which only a hand full of the hundreds of homes here can see, same goes for DeSoto and most of McClure, on the other side of the Turnpike there are Bradford, Hawkins, and parts of St. Catherine, the south side of Linden and West side of Monarch Grove also come to mind.

Rwirish
05-22-2021, 05:00 AM
You should be ready to hear turnpike noise and watch the traffic.

bowlingal
05-22-2021, 05:45 AM
salespeople have a way of avoiding questions that will impact sales. Take Coleman prison for instance. I asked salespeople about the rumor of a prison near Fenney and I was told....what prison? I don't know anything about a prison. And there was the quarry that no one mentioned....blasting constantly. Buyer Beware!!

txfan
05-22-2021, 05:53 AM
The utilities can do mostly what ever they want on their easements.

SECO recently added power distribution poles/lines after homes were sold in Chitty Chatty.

A large gasline clean out station is being built near the turnpike at Monarch Grove after homes were sold.

So there is risk if the area in question becomes a power distribution facility.

The poles were swapped with newer, more capable poles. There were none “added.”

Villages Kahuna
05-22-2021, 06:01 AM
Don’t rely on your salesman. The Villages consistently takes the position that researching the ownership, zoning and potential use of private property abutting The Villages is the responsibility of the prospective home owner. You’d better crank up your own research on your question.

banjobob
05-22-2021, 06:09 AM
Buyer beware if you are buying undeveloped lots.

VApeople
05-22-2021, 06:24 AM
The lot is not on the golf course. It’s in the middle of Danielson and at the middle of pond with the back of lot facing a retention pond. The cross street is near james street.

I think that is a very good lot.

When we rode by there on Sunday, we saw another couple in a golf cart driving over that lot, so people are sure out there looking around.

The retention pond is a little odd because it appears to be divided by a strip of dirt in the middle. We thought that was only temporary and would be removed, but it looked like there were shrubs being planted in the dirt area.

If we go out there tomorrow, we will look at it more carefully and take a picture.

golfgal44
05-22-2021, 06:32 AM
There are hundreds if not thousands of homes down here that do not have a view of a power line. Look a little harder they are all over the place. Start with Fenney, the most populous of all villages and the only power lines are on 468 which only a hand full of the hundreds of homes here can see, same goes for DeSoto and most of McClure, on the other side of the Turnpike there are Bradford, Hawkins, and parts of St. Catherine, the south side of Linden and West side of Monarch Grove also come to mind.
We have been looking for a while now. First for a spec home. Then for lots. The big problem for us is finding a lot/home with a 3 or 4 car garage or a lot that will hold that size garage. We don’t want a corner lot, or a kissing lanai, and we want a view. Very tough combination to find. We liked Hawkins and fenney but we just missed the boat on fenney. Lots were mostly sold when we first came down to look. At the time Hawkins was available we were still look for spec homes. Now that we realized we have to build, citrus grove is the only area in the near future, with lots large enough to hold a 3 or 4 car garage.

NoMo50
05-22-2021, 06:40 AM
Do yourself a favor, and visit your lot at night to experience the noise from the turnpike. You will find the noise is much more noticeable at night, when other ambient daytime noises are not present. In particular, stand in the area where your lanai will be. It would be a shame to feel like you couldn't sit on your lanai at night if the noise is too bothersome. Also, you should be able to transfer your deposit to another lot if you change your mind.

golfgal44
05-22-2021, 06:49 AM
All he has to do is drive down there and look at it. We rode our bikes thru there on Sunday. The open space has some kind of nasty looking electric transformers or something like that, but nothing tall. They are planning to build houses very close to it. I don't think it would affect your new house on Danielson.




We rode our bikes along Danielson. The views of the new course are beautiful but some houses may be hit by wayward golf shots from hole #7. Yes, you will hear noise from the turnpike.

We will probably ride our bikes out there on Sunday so we can take some pictures and send them to you if you can describe exactly where your lot is.




In April 2016, we put down $10K to reserve a lot. When we got here in May, we had the option of changing to a different lot or using the money to buy an existing new home, commonly called a 'spec' home. We kept the lot we had reserved, saw a designer on July 9th to finalize our plans for a new house, and moved into the new house Oct 1.

At least that is how things worked five years ago.
That is so nice of you to offer. How would you send me pics. My lot is at the middle of Danielson, near the cross street of James road. the back of lot faces the retention pond. I am worried sick about this. The $10k is due on Tuesday. I’m worried about noise from sawgrass, noise from the highway, and potential power lines at the new power substation below hole 5 on the golf course., which I didn’t know about when we picked the lot). This is all so new to me. First time I’m buying my own home. I didn’t realize I could look at the surrounding areas on a map on t.v. Website. Just recently discovered that. I’m a real rube.

capecoralbill
05-22-2021, 07:07 AM
You should get a H O insurance quote , and ask about a separate policy for sinkhole insurance. I know for a fact that retention ponds are susceptible to spontaneously draining, Sinkhole insurance is not available in many sections of the Villages because of this. Also the Developer will not fix a sinkhole even tho the sales tour will imply the that he will.

b0bd0herty
05-22-2021, 07:09 AM
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

I did a simple Google search for "The Villages, FLorida" then oriented the map and zoomed in on the Citrus Grove location. Just East of the WVLG radio tower (end of Albatross) is a little marker that says, "Southern Oaks Substation."

Hope whatever you decide is good for you & yours.

asianthree
05-22-2021, 07:28 AM
There are hundreds if not thousands of homes down here that do not have a view of a power line. Look a little harder they are all over the place. Start with Fenney, the most populous of all villages and the only power lines are on 468 which only a hand full of the hundreds of homes here can see, same goes for DeSoto and most of McClure, on the other side of the Turnpike there are Bradford, Hawkins, and parts of St. Catherine, the south side of Linden and West side of Monarch Grove also come to mind.

Not if you want a 3 car garage, view site, and room for a pool. We have been looking for a year for those two items, so far 3 homes came on the market, 2 with marvelous power lines out you back door.

Homer49
05-22-2021, 07:33 AM
That is so nice of you to offer. How would you send me pics. My lot is at the middle of Danielson, near the cross street of James road. the back of lot faces the retention pond. I am worried sick about this. The $10k is due on Tuesday. I’m worried about noise from sawgrass, noise from the highway, and potential power lines at the new power substation below hole 5 on the golf course., which I didn’t know about when we picked the lot). This is all so new to me. First time I’m buying my own home. I didn’t realize I could look at the surrounding areas on a map on t.v. Website. Just recently discovered that. I’m a real rube.

We’ve been in that area twice in the last week and I’m familiar with the location of your lot - I think your fears are probably unfounded.

You’re nowhere near close enough to Sawgrass to hear significant noise from there, plus when build-out is complete in that area I think there will be a lot of homes between you and noise from Sawgrass.

There is a large existing electrical substation southeast of hole 5 and Merhottein Loop but it is a long way from your lot and you will not be able to see it from anywhere on your lot.

Re: turnpike noise - I spent some time yesterday on lot 39 at the western end of Danielson next to the tee boxes for hole 8. From that lot there are a few gaps in the golf course and berm where you can see vehicles on the turnpike. I didn’t think the noise was a problem and it probably won’t be noticeable at all indoors - but the caveat has to be that every person has their own sensitivity (or lack of) to noises. With your lot being further away and the outside rear facing NNW, I don’t think it will be an issue, but that’s just my $0.02.

Good luck and be happy with whatever you decide.

MandoMan
05-22-2021, 07:33 AM
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

A number of us enjoy walking our dogs on the shady paths under the trees in the grove of laurel oaks and cedars that surrounds a rather large transformer station. This is right next to the dog park with the brand new pavilion. (You can see at the left of the photo below the white pavilion on the map, with the small yard for smaller dogs and the big yard for big dogs off leash.) I can hear the hum of the transformers while am on those paths, but I can’t hear it on the other side of the trees. A quarter mile distance should not be a problem. Freeway noise can carry a lot farther. You should go listen. At least, from a quarter mile away, you shouldn’t hear it inside with the windows closed.

I live on the 14th fairway at Tierra del Sol, and the cart path is within thirty feet of my property line. It hasn’t been a problem. The carts on the cart path make no more noise than the carts going by on the street, and those aren’t a problem.

PennBF
05-22-2021, 07:33 AM
I honestly don't understand how anyone would or should purchase a home site without a
total investigation. Example, the purchase of a home should include at least 3 visits of some length of time. The potential home should be investigated at night for noises and security, during the day for noises, surroundings, nearness to stores, banks, etc., Also prices as related to prices of homes in the area and many many other things. When we decided to buy in the The Villages we rented for a month just to get the lay of the land, we then rented the next year for 2 months to determine the best location. We then watched the real estate sales and which made the best sense, a new or pre owned. After this we picked out a location and waited for a home in that area to come up for sale. One did which we really liked and it was then that we locked up a sale. That was about 13-14 years ago and we could not be happier with the choice. It is perfected located and the value was better than we guessed. Net: Buying a home is a major investment and deserves many months of planning, studying and investigating before any decision. In my opinion I would forfeit the $2,500 and start over. :ho:

Altavia
05-22-2021, 07:44 AM
I agree, if there is at least a street or 2 homes between you and road noise, the sound is substantially reduced.

There are very few totally "quiet" lots in the Villages, or anywhere populated.

CynthiaAnn
05-22-2021, 08:12 AM
Look at Google Maps... there is something called Southern Oaks Substation on it. You seem to be far enough away that it won't affect you. Also, you can switch your money to another lot, so you don't lose your money unless you back away from The Villages altogether. At least that is what we were told earlier this year. As for turnpike noise, did you not go to the lot personally?

merrymini
05-22-2021, 08:18 AM
Baloney. Noise from roadways travel hundreds of feet and a couple of houses will not mitigate it. I used to be on a planning board when issues like this came up in developments. You would need hundreds of feet of thick evergreen trees to make any mitigation noticeable and the turnpike is 24/7. Remember, the developer does not seem to have a problem selling but that does not mean you will not have a problem on a resale.

Conniehar
05-22-2021, 08:26 AM
You definitely have to be on your game around here when searching for a lot. We almost bought in Hawkins in October but the lot just wasn’t perfect and after returning home our agent found our perfect lot in St Catherine - preserve view, room for a pool, no power lines. We are grateful that he was able to get it at the exact moment it went on sale. The Villages has so much land that my personal opinion is that if you aren’t 100% certain, you should wait. We are so glad we did. If you aren’t confident in your agent, find a new one. Good luck!

VApeople
05-22-2021, 08:55 AM
I am worried sick about this.

All of us who moved here from another area felt sick about things at some point.

Like I said in an earlier post, we also put down $10K in advance to reserve a lot. We were told we could either keep that lot, change to a different lot, or use the money to buy a spec home.

To be honest, if you really need a 3 or 4 car garage, maybe you need to throw some stuff out. Possessions can get in the way of you enjoying your life. Either you throw it out or your kids will throw it out.

We will try to post pictures tomorrow.

Ashley from UK
05-22-2021, 09:07 AM
I am worried sick about this. The $10k is due on Tuesday. I’m worried about noise from sawgrass, noise from the highway, and potential power lines at the new power substation below hole 5 on the golf course., which I didn’t know about when we picked the lot). This is all so new to me. First time I’m buying my own home. I didn’t realize I could look at the surrounding areas on a map on t.v. Website. Just recently discovered that. I’m a real rube.

Golfgal. Let me put your mind at ease having gone through the same experience over the past 18 months. I tracked houses and lots from January 2019 deciding on an area in Marsh Bend which was to be released during the year. We booked a lifestyle in January 2019 and flights at the end of October 2019. The lots came and went and when we got out to see the land there were only a few left. We weren't 100% sure but put down our $2,500..on a $250k premium LOT. We returned to the UK and put down the balancing $10k a week later. HERES THE THING - YOU CAN change your lot once for free (double check this still applies). We knew we had 90 days to complete designs (check the timing) and that there would be other locations coming available in the coming months. We flew out in March 2020 and went from MCO straight to our lot - the surrounding area had built up and we realised we had made a monumental mistake!!!!

DeLuna had sites, one in particular was fabulous, and Chitty Chatty had just been released - and was pretty much sold out. We decided to change lots to one costing $170k in Chitty Chatty.

Our home got built, Covid struck, the borders were closed and a year later we have as yet to be allowed into the USA to actually see our completed home. We decided to rent it out rather than leave it empty. Have a look on Facebook to see if there is a residents group yet, and if not set one up for Citrus Grove (I did this for Chitty Chatty). The group now has over 250 neighbours registered and they have organised events and parties (check out Chitty Chatty on You Tube). I have yet to meet a single neighbour in the person - yet count them as some of my cosest friends. One mows my lawn, another is helping with my US taxes. Residents have looked out for my home

So returning to your concern. Check that you can move lots, put down your deposit and then take your time to go have a proper look at the site. Check out videos from Gold Wing Nuts, Papa Pinapple, Expoloring The Villages - all of whom have done VERY informative videos of the area. I wish you every success - feel free to PM me.

larcha
05-22-2021, 09:35 AM
If you are that concerned it definitely would be better to pass on this lot and wait for one that doesn't have all the potential problems you have heard about and are concerned with. The Villages is always expanding and another new area will open up, probably within 6 months. You could also look at some of the already developed areas. The cost of a new bond alone would probably pay for completely renovating an existing property. While scarce there are some older homes with the amenities/features you are looking for plus you won't have to drive 10 miles to do your shopping.

Altavia
05-22-2021, 09:45 AM
Baloney. Noise from roadways travel hundreds of feet and a couple of houses will not mitigate it. I used to be on a planning board when issues like this came up in developments. You would need hundreds of feet of thick evergreen trees to make any mitigation noticeable ...

Not correct, a structure provides ten told noise reduction over landscaping. That's why the build sound barriers.

DAVES
05-22-2021, 09:51 AM
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

May I point out, posters are their OPINION. The money and the decision are yours.

I'm not an attorney. From what I understand real estate law all that matters is what is in writing. I will look into that is a common stall. I do not know where you are. As far as a power station, IF, THAT IS SO I sure you can contact government offices and find out.
PHONE? You will likely get a more valid response if you set up an appointment and stop by.

Again, I am not an attorney. "I will only lose $2500 versus $10,000," only if you agree to do that. Seems to me if your claim is so, they concealed information.

golfgal44
05-22-2021, 10:13 AM
Agreed. We’ve been looking since September.

M2inOR
05-22-2021, 10:26 AM
We live in Marsh Bend, in the middle of Lowlands golf course.

We are 1 mile from the turnpike. We hear the traffic at night and early morning from our east facing lanai. Many homes and roads between us and the turnpike.

There are Villas halfway between us and the turnpike. Took a long time to sell them but they are now sold.

There are view lots on Lawler Loop between us and the Turnpike. Took a long time to sell those too. There is a spec designer home listed for $700+K and several pending. Soon, a few more spec homes will come to market. Originally offered as Designer Homesite lots, but they did not sell quickly. Suddenly they are, at a premium.

I did a quick look at your home site. You definitely will hear the turnpike. Only you will know if the noise bothers you. We wouldn't consider it.

Also, across the pond is a map area currently colored green; not a preserve, but likely will be future homesites. An aerial drone view will show the infrastructure that is being developed right now.

Hire Don Wiley, Goldwingnut to video your site.

Of course, this is all my opinion.

DAVES
05-22-2021, 10:51 AM
There is no "perfect" lot, all have compromises depending on your preferences.

The average Villager moves 3 times. The way prices are increasing, the financial risk is low if you find a location you like better 1+ year from now.

Perhaps, I am different from others. Average Villager moves 3x. I know two that are on number 4. My view do it right the first time and I do not need to pack all my stuff etc. Prices are increasing ok fine so you got more for your home than you paid for it. Reality, assuming you will buy in the villages, or realty, anywhere, the replacement has also gone up in cost.

Pat2015
05-22-2021, 11:01 AM
If you determine that your lot is an issue for any reason, you are allowed to transfer to another lot one time without any penalty. You can also use the money to buy a spec house, and you have up to a year to make your decision as to what you want your deposit money to go towards! Good luck!

golfgal44
05-22-2021, 11:01 AM
#1, garages are for cars, not “stuff”. We happen to enjoy our collector car, like many of the people in t.v. do, as evidenced by the many vintage car clubs that exist. This is is one of the many reasons we are relocating to t.v.
#2, larger garage also allows for workshop space eliminating the need to pay every Tom, Dick, and Harry to repair a pipe, when one is handy enough.
#3, it is difficult to visit a lot three times a day when you live 2000 miles away. The way the t.v. Sales are today, the lot is here today, and gone today. There is no time given for investigating. This is what we are doing now, as evidenced by my question.
We will be visiting in a few weeks but thought we could get the opinions of t.v. residents who are more familiar with the area. We appreciate everyone's response so far.

Homer49
05-22-2021, 04:29 PM

Also, across the pond is a map area currently colored green; not a preserve, but likely will be future homesites. An aerial drone view will show the infrastructure that is being developed right now.
….

Your guess is correct about the area across the pond from OP’s lot. In the latest “Continuing the Dream” video by TV on Sawgrass Grove there are a couple of drone scenes that show OP’s lot, the Laurel Oak Course and Sawgrass Grove from the air. There are already streets and utilities in the area across the pond from her.

TNGary
05-22-2021, 09:53 PM
OP, a lot of good feedback on this post. Many great and smart folks in TV's. I have move numerous times with transfers, upsizing, downsizing, etc. Most of the deals that slipped by me, perhaps late on a bid, etc, in retrospect I am glad they did, but not at the time. This lot does not appear to be a one of a kind, appears your already questioning it now. If you pull the plug and walk, I believe you will look back with no regrets. Please keep this post updated on your final decision. Your new family would like to know!!! best

WEHOWL
05-23-2021, 07:28 AM
Graciegirl - you are a wise soul. Your posts enriched reading, always.

WEHOWL
05-23-2021, 07:34 AM
Yes! Often, the sales representative does not know and that too, is the individual's responsibility.

WEHOWL
05-23-2021, 07:44 AM
You do not need to justify your garage/home choices to anybody. I am sorry you feel you must. If people have nothing else to do but judge, they have too much time on their hands and should be enjoying the villages lifestyle and all of the wonderful benefits this place offers - wishing you the best of luck! Hoping you find that garage - it is possible. Remember, your lot of choice seems like the only one right available at this moment, and there are hundreds, upon hundreds of homes being built!

vintageogauge
05-23-2021, 07:54 AM
We have been looking for a while now. First for a spec home. Then for lots. The big problem for us is finding a lot/home with a 3 or 4 car garage or a lot that will hold that size garage. We don’t want a corner lot, or a kissing lanai, and we want a view. Very tough combination to find. We liked Hawkins and fenney but we just missed the boat on fenney. Lots were mostly sold when we first came down to look. At the time Hawkins was available we were still look for spec homes. Now that we realized we have to build, citrus grove is the only area in the near future, with lots large enough to hold a 3 or 4 car garage.
Hammock at Fenney will be building in the very near future and there will be both view and golf course lots available there.

stebooo
05-23-2021, 09:43 PM
Imo would not give money till I have WRITTEN answer. I don't trust those salesman. Have you looked at used way north when you know 3xactly what your getting

vintageogauge
05-24-2021, 11:37 AM
Imo would not give money till I have WRITTEN answer. I don't trust those salesman. Have you looked at used way north when you know 3xactly what your getting

The way these homes and lots are selling now the lot or home you would be interested in while waiting for something in writing will most likely be sold out from under you.

Altavia
05-24-2021, 03:49 PM
Many homes all over the Villages near powerlines, solid waste facilities (e.g.the Pine Villages), road noise, etc appreciated and sell quickly.

Was in Palm Beach this weekend and there are thousands of million dollar plus homes within ear shot of the Turnpike and/or I95.

vintageogauge
05-24-2021, 03:56 PM
Many homes all over the Villages near powerlines, solid waste facilities (e.g.the Pine Villages), road noise, etc appreciated and sell quickly.

Was in Palm Beach this weekend and there are thousands of million dollar plus homes within ear shot of the Turnpike and/or I95.

Amen to that. A lot of people are bother by noise but there are many that do not find it annoying at all. When I was growing up my grandmother lived within 20 yards of a railroad track and she always had her windows open weather permitting so that she could hear the trains even better. There are multiple buyers out there for every home that is available.

Road-Runner
05-25-2021, 07:56 AM
#1, garages are for cars, not “stuff”. We happen to enjoy our collector car, like many of the people in t.v. do, as evidenced by the many vintage car clubs that exist. This is is one of the many reasons we are relocating to t.v.
#2, larger garage also allows for workshop space eliminating the need to pay every Tom, Dick, and Harry to repair a pipe, when one is handy enough.
#3, it is difficult to visit a lot three times a day when you live 2000 miles away. The way the t.v. Sales are today, the lot is here today, and gone today. There is no time given for investigating. This is what we are doing now, as evidenced by my question.
We will be visiting in a few weeks but thought we could get the opinions of t.v. residents who are more familiar with the area. We appreciate everyone's response so far.

Some people are just not 'Car' people! We got the largest 2 1/2 car garage we could find as the houses with 3 & 4 car garages were just too far above what we wanted to pay. That said, I'm looking into a car stacker and/or offsite storage for my 'toys'. All of them American muscle cars, but being in the U.K. yours might be some sweet British rides! I've been to the car show at Spanish Springs a couple of times and there's a guy there with an pristine Jaguar E type convertible. Gorgeous car, you're going to fit right in. Good luck finding your car cave.

VApeople
05-26-2021, 08:13 AM
We rode our bikes in Citrus Grove on Sunday and went by your lot along the retention pond across from the intersection of James and Danielson. There was a very slight breeze blowing toward the turnpike and we could not hear any noise from the traffic.

It appears there might be a walking/biking path being built along the pond right behind your lot. It looks like the path will encircle the pond. Maybe your realtor will have more info about it.

golfgal44
05-26-2021, 08:39 PM
So far, keeping the lot until we get down there to see it. Cant give it up yet because aren’t any lots which will hold 3-4 car garage, without power lines or huge towers in close view, without a kissing lanai and without hearing the tpke. Hawkins was pretty but again, the lot with a large enough front for a big garage was almost impossible. Anything south of here will be in a much higher tax bracket and even closer to the tpke. I won’t happy until I see it.

golfgal44
05-26-2021, 08:50 PM
VaPeople, glad you rode by, but I don’t know where you are talking about with bike paths surrounding th lots. So far there are only spec homes being built. None of the custom built homes on the pond have been built yet. New builds will be built in front of the first row of houses shown. Are you sure you are not looking at the road in front of the first row of “spec” houses? The custom houses will be built in front of them.

VApeople
05-26-2021, 11:04 PM
Yeah, it can get confusing because there are two places where James intersects Danielson.

We were looking at the lots on Danielson that back up to the pond.

It looks like they may be planning to put a walking/biking path between the back of the lots and the pond. There is no asphalt in place for what may be the biking/walking path, but the dirt was definitely smoothed out in a swath about 8 feet wide. It looked like the path will encircle the pond. There is a photo of that area on page A2 in the Daily Sun today.

Maybe it will be like Boudreau Court and Janesy Circle in Marsh Bend where there is a walking/biking path between the houses and the Hogeye Preserve.

From what we could tell, across the pond they plan to put in houses. No villas.

golfgal44
05-27-2021, 11:02 PM
Yeah, it can get confusing because there are two places where James intersects Danielson.

We were looking at the lots on Danielson that back up to the pond.

It looks like they may be planning to put a walking/biking path between the back of the lots and the pond. There is no asphalt in place for what may be the biking/walking path, but the dirt was definitely smoothed out in a swath about 8 feet wide. It looked like the path will encircle the pond. There is a photo of that area on page A2 in the Daily Sun today.

Maybe it will be like Boudreau Court and Janesy Circle in Marsh Bend where there is a walking/biking path between the houses and the Hogeye Preserve.

From what we could tell, across the pond they plan to put in houses. No villas.

Omg! A friend was in t.v. last Sunday. He didn’t see any path in by the pond. I haven’t seen the lot at all. I live up north. Bought it just on my friend’s inspection. I’ll be coming down in a couple of weeks to see for the first time. Don’t I have any recourse of action on this? I don’t have access to the daily sun.is it possible for you to send or post the article for me? Thank you so much.

golfgal44
05-27-2021, 11:28 PM
OP, a lot of good feedback on this post. Many great and smart folks in TV's. I have move numerous times with transfers, upsizing, downsizing, etc. Most of the deals that slipped by me, perhaps late on a bid, etc, in retrospect I am glad they did, but not at the time. This lot does not appear to be a one of a kind, appears your already questioning it now. If you pull the plug and walk, I believe you will look back with no regrets. Please keep this post updated on your final decision. Your new family would like to know!!! best

Someone on this thread told me that they rode their bikes around this area and they think a walking/bike path might be planned for around the pond. I can’t believe this. This was not an inexpensive lot. I haven’t seen it as I live up north. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. No wonder t.v. Wants $10,000 with one week of holding the lot. They wait till they are all sold, then wait till everyone pays the $10k, then they pull a stunt like this? Don’t I have any recourse? It’s a good thing I didn’t put my house up north up for sale yet.

golfgal44
05-27-2021, 11:41 PM
Some people are just not 'Car' people! We got the largest 2 1/2 car garage we could find as the houses with 3 & 4 car garages were just too far above what we wanted to pay. That said, I'm looking into a car stacker and/or offsite storage for my 'toys'. All of them American muscle cars, but being in the U.K. yours might be some sweet British rides! I've been to the car show at Spanish Springs a couple of times and there's a guy there with an pristine Jaguar E type convertible. Gorgeous car, you're going to fit right in. Good luck finding your car cave.

I am from the u.s. but I do own a British car, similar to the one you mentioned, besides a muscle car, an suv, my sibling’s suv and tools. 5 car garage would be perfect. Lol! We looked into private storage. There is a private storage facility for cars about1 mile away. Car stacker is a good idea, but would have to have a house tall enough. I prefer a house pre-owned around brownwood or lake Sumter, but there aren’t enough
four car garages within that area.

John Mayes
05-28-2021, 01:11 AM
Someone on this thread told me that they rode their bikes around this area and they think a walking/bike path might be planned for around the pond. I can’t believe this. This was not an inexpensive lot. I haven’t seen it as I live up north. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. No wonder t.v. Wants $10,000 with one week of holding the lot. They wait till they are all sold, then wait till everyone pays the $10k, then they pull a stunt like this? Don’t I have any recourse? It’s a good thing I didn’t put my house up north up for sale yet.

This is on TV website;

https://cdn2.thevillages.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/POV748-Unit-71V-CG-Homesites-Webcard_0421-REV_NCH-map_05.jpg

VApeople
05-28-2021, 06:53 AM
Omg! A friend was in t.v. last Sunday. He didn’t see any path in by the pond.

Probably he did not see the path because he did not get out of his car and walk around the lots. From the back of the lots, it is easy to see the leveled strip along the pond which may become a walking/biking path.

Don’t I have any recourse of action on this?

Look at the lots on Boudreau Circle and Janesy Court in Marsh Bend. Do you think those homeowners were told there would be a walking/biking path right behind their lots? Since one of those houses without a pool is now selling for $1.1M, the path doesn't appear to have hurt the value of the homes.

I don’t have access to the daily sun.is it possible for you to send or post the article for me? Thank you so much.

It wasn't an article. It was just a photo in an advertisement for lots in Citrus Grove. Maybe a realtor can help you. Other people have recommended Beth Pope. I have never met her, but our friends said they used her to help sell their house and were very pleased,

When we were down there on Sunday, we took pictures where it appears a path may be built. Maybe my wife can post them here. She knows more about the computer than I do.

asianthree
05-28-2021, 07:08 AM
Someone on this thread told me that they rode their bikes around this area and they think a walking/bike path might be planned for around the pond. I can’t believe this. This was not an inexpensive lot. I haven’t seen it as I live up north. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. No wonder t.v. Wants $10,000 with one week of holding the lot. They wait till they are all sold, then wait till everyone pays the $10k, then they pull a stunt like this? Don’t I have any recourse? It’s a good thing I didn’t put my house up north up for sale yet.
You have a rep, instead of getting info from TOTV, call your rep. We looked at a home with a walking path, on a pond in Chitty Chatty. The path was on the other side of the pond, and was not a surprise to us. Again you can apply any monies to another lot, as of right now 7 lots where you are building have just been released and are back on the market. How do I know that, because my rep texted me with a walk around of the lot. Sadly your friend may not have walked the lot, but if there is a path, it’s been in the plans since day one.

CALL your rep, if they can’t do the job GET someone else. I absolutely trust my guy

golfgal44
05-28-2021, 09:34 AM
Amazing that people pay huge amounts for lots and do not pay much attention to their surroundings when doing so.

Why would anyone want to build near an Interstate or huge power lines?

Would definitely pay more for a better location.


Difficult to pay attention to fine details when you are 2000 miles away and t.v. Photoshops things, as they do with many of the electrical towers behind homes. Pay more for a better location? Citrus grove doesn’t have any prime locations.

Papa_lecki
05-28-2021, 09:43 AM
Difficult to pay attention to fine details when you are 2000 miles away and t.v. Photoshops things, as they do with many of the electrical towers behind homes. Pay more for a better location? Citrus grove doesn’t have any prime locations.

If you are going to spend a couple hundred thousand on a house - maybe spend $1000 and fly down for the weekend to do your own due diligence.

justjim
05-28-2021, 09:59 AM
We chose Bradford because it was far enough away from the turnpike that at least so far we've never heard it even late at night when things are quiet. We also weren't keen on power lines which we also avoided in Bradford. We're not on a pond, but otherwise the perfect spot for us.

It certainly pays to due diligence when it comes to noise. The Turnpike noise could put a damper on what otherwise would be an excellent place to build. Another caution to take is the distance from Pickleball courts.

golfgal44
05-28-2021, 10:00 AM
Probably he did not see the path because he did not get out of his car and walk around the lots. From the back of the lots, it is easy to see the leveled strip along the pond which may become a walking/biking path.



Look at the lots on Boudreau Circle and Janesy Court in Marsh Bend. Do you think those homeowners were told there would be a walking/biking path right behind their lots? Since one of those houses without a pool is now selling for $1.1M, the path doesn't appear to have hurt the value of the homes.



It wasn't an article. It was just a photo in an advertisement for lots in Citrus Grove. Maybe a realtor can help you. Other people have recommended Beth Pope. I have never met her, but our friends said they used her to help sell their house and were very pleased,

When we were down there on Sunday, we took pictures where it appears a path may be built. Maybe my wife can post them here. She knows more about the computer than I do.

I would appreciate that. Thank you.

VApeople
05-28-2021, 11:44 AM
Here are some pictures:

1) The first photo was taken from what I think is your lot along Danielson Loop. James Road is in the background.

2) This was taken in back of your lot looking toward the golf course. I suspect this may be a walking/biking path.

3) This is another photo of the path looking away from the golf course. On the left, you can see the drop-off down to the pond.

4) This was taken from the front of your lot looking toward the retention pond.

5) This is a photo of the retention pond. It was taken from the back of your lot.

golfgal44
05-28-2021, 09:44 PM
Here are some pictures:

1) The first photo was taken from what I think is your lot along Danielson Loop. James Road is in the background.

2) This was taken in back of your lot looking toward the golf course. I suspect this may be a walking/biking path.

3) This is another photo of the path looking away from the golf course. On the left, you can see the drop-off down to the pond.

4) This was taken from the front of your lot looking toward the retention pond.

5) This is a photo of the retention pond. It was taken from the back of your lot.

Thanks so much for doing this for me. My lot looks more like the 5th pic. I am not one of the lots on the golf course. I am closer to the middle the pond. I had asked a friend who lives outside t.v. If they would take a look. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. This friend asked one of the ce,ent workers what that strip was. He said it’s a road they flatten out so their trucks could drive up and down to plant trees. He said “no path”. He said the construction dept. has all the maps and they would know about paths. He insisted there would be not walk/bike path there. Sure hope he’s right.

VApeople
05-29-2021, 09:56 AM
My lot looks more like the 5th pic.

Actually, all of the pictures were taken from what we thought was your lot on Danielson.

Kiminmiss
06-19-2021, 01:28 PM
Thanks so much for doing this for me. My lot looks more like the 5th pic. I am not one of the lots on the golf course. I am closer to the middle the pond. I had asked a friend who lives outside t.v. If they would take a look. I will be down there in a couple of weeks. This friend asked one of the ce,ent workers what that strip was. He said it’s a road they flatten out so their trucks could drive up and down to plant trees. He said “no path”. He said the construction dept. has all the maps and they would know about paths. He insisted there would be not walk/bike path there. Sure hope he’s right.

So, did you get a chance to visit and see your lot?

M2inOR
06-19-2021, 09:02 PM
There are now new houses being built on the other side of the pond.

Carla B
06-20-2021, 07:55 AM
So, did you get a chance to visit and see your lot?

Yes, what was the outcome, inquiring minds want to know!

CoachKandSportsguy
06-20-2021, 08:30 AM
The current conundrum is that lots and houses are going fast and low on resale inventory as the boomers retire, and are looking for a lower tax base and better retirement weather. Do you have to move and can wait for a better resale in a year from now? There is a huge case of popular TV FOMO (fear of missing out) right now, and this is what is driving the current buying craze. . If I were you, I would continue to sell your home as its a great time to sell, and rent a villa, condo, whatever you can fit into , in TV, and continue your search down here. . . and be ready to pounce, ie close in one day, (hyperbole to the literals) when you find the perfect lot. . . there is more time available than you realize without getting caught up in FOMO, and you will get a better deal for your dreams than rushing it right now. . . and write the $2,500 off on your taxes as an investment loss. . .

finance guy

Lottoguy
06-20-2021, 08:57 AM
If you move three times in a short time period suggests to me you didn't do your homework. My 2 cents.

MrFlorida
06-20-2021, 10:06 AM
You will defiantly hear the turnpike from there.

asianthree
06-20-2021, 12:17 PM
If you move three times in a short time period suggests to me you didn't do your homework. My 2 cents.

Or you bought first home as a VaCa home, 2nd home so parents could enjoy also. Third home is where you live, but not really attached and could sell and move at anytime. It’s good to have more than 2 cents, and young enough to do it.

golfgal44
07-24-2021, 11:55 PM
We did travel down to see it. We went many times to listen for highway noise. The only time we heard any was when there was strong wing in direction of lot. That happened only twice in about 20 visits. I think it will be even better after all the houses on that block are built. Now we are trying to decide between the laurel oak and the zinnia (stretched). Any input would be appreciated.


So, did you get a chance to visit and see your lot?

golfgal44
07-25-2021, 12:01 AM
Unfortunately, we will be losing $10,000, not $2500. I agree with your logic but from what I have investigated, the only area upcoming, without highways too close, and with view lots, will be in Richmond, but that will not be opening for another 6 months to a year. By that time, I will have already lost the money. I would hate to waste so much money renting for a year.


The current conundrum is that lots and houses are going fast and low on resale inventory as the boomers retire, and are looking for a lower tax base and better retirement weather. Do you have to move and can wait for a better resale in a year from now? There is a huge case of popular TV FOMO (fear of missing out) right now, and this is what is driving the current buying craze. . If I were you, I would continue to sell your home as its a great time to sell, and rent a villa, condo, whatever you can fit into , in TV, and continue your search down here. . . and be ready to pounce, ie close in one day, (hyperbole to the literals) when you find the perfect lot. . . there is more time available than you realize without getting caught up in FOMO, and you will get a better deal for your dreams than rushing it right now. . . and write the $2,500 off on your taxes as an investment loss. . .

finance guy

golfgal44
07-25-2021, 12:03 AM
Yes but you can definitely hear the noise from there.,we drove around and noticed that.



QUOTE=M2inOR;1962129]There are now new houses being built on the other side of the pond.[/QUOTE]

M2inOR
07-25-2021, 07:28 AM
Re: Richmond and St. Johns

Both new areas will soon see construction of new homes, but are still quite close to the Turnpike for most of the building sites.

The area of Richmond near the new rec center between the Water Lily bridge and Brownwood/44 is about a mile away from the Turnpike. Originally, there was a plan to build apartments, but looks now to be future home sites.

We are 1 mile from Turnpike in Marsh Bend, near Edna's. Turnpike noise is mostly like white noise, and not bothersome. Wind and temperature sometimes makes it louder, and at times not heard at all.

Good luck with your search.

BigSteph
07-25-2021, 08:15 AM
We live in Hawkins -- closer to Warm Springs Road -- about 1/4 mile form the turnpike. Some evenings you can hear Warm Springs traffic and nothing from the Turnpike. Other nights, it sounds like the truckers from the turnpike are on your lawn. It is amazing how the weather/wind/clouds affect the noise in the neighborhoods along the turnpike.

When we see the development for the newer sections of Hawkins along the turnpike, Casson Hammock, and Citrus Grove, we wonder if folks are ready for the noise. Some people are ready -- they moved from big cities and noisy suburbs.

I don't have any answers. Just know that 1 or 2 visits to your lot may not be even to fully appreciate the experience across all hours and seasons.

Normal
07-25-2021, 04:31 PM
For what it worth, my wife and I purchased a lot back in early March in CG and have zero regrets. We look forward to being near Azel and Sawgrass. We are three blocks from the dog park in Homestead. One block from the CG pool and post office and 2 blocks from Sawgrass. We like it that way. But then we have been living around peace and quiet for years.

Stu from NYC
07-25-2021, 06:16 PM
This thread with the worries about not being happy with your location makes us happy we bought in an established village and knew what we were getting.

JRP2TV
07-25-2021, 08:48 PM
The new areas south of 44 have huge A frame power lines, front and center.Its difficult to find a new home without some sort of power line in plain view, trust me, we have been looking. But some people don't seem to mind them, we do.

Amazing that people pay huge amounts for lots and do not pay much attention to their surroundings when doing so.

Why would anyone want to build near an Interstate or huge power lines?

Would definitely pay more for a better location.

We are buying with a clear and present view of the massive power lines in the back.

We choose to look at it as a positive, as there can never ever be houses built behind us. No kissing lanais for us. Just open land for where those lines go through. Some well placed trees and landscaping will take the focus off most of it.

In reality, this is a no brainer trade-off for all the great things they are planning for that area.

JRP2TV
07-25-2021, 08:54 PM
I think that is a very good lot.

When we rode by there on Sunday, we saw another couple in a golf cart driving over that lot, so people are sure out there looking around.

The retention pond is a little odd because it appears to be divided by a strip of dirt in the middle. We thought that was only temporary and would be removed, but it looked like there were shrubs being planted in the dirt area.

If we go out there tomorrow, we will look at it more carefully and take a picture.

That area is built like that on purpose. Those are cypress trees meant to be flooded and then dried out over and over as the water rises and falls on rainfall.

VApeople
07-25-2021, 10:24 PM
Now we are trying to decide between the laurel oak and the zinnia (stretched). Any input would be appreciated.

Compare the square foot size of each house.

VApeople
07-25-2021, 10:25 PM
That area is built like that on purpose. Those are cypress trees meant to be flooded and then dried out over and over as the water rises and falls on rainfall.

And how is that better than just having a normal pond like everywhere else in TV?

JRP2TV
07-26-2021, 08:17 AM
And how is that better than just having a normal pond like everywhere else in TV?

Never stated it was better. Just something different and interesting.

Stu from NYC
07-26-2021, 08:59 AM
We are buying with a clear and present view of the massive power lines in the back.

We choose to look at it as a positive, as there can never ever be houses built behind us. No kissing lanais for us. Just open land for where those lines go through. Some well placed trees and landscaping will take the focus off most of it.

In reality, this is a no brainer trade-off for all the great things they are planning for that area.

As long as you are aware of what you are purchasing more power to you.

LoriAnn
07-26-2021, 06:34 PM
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

I put a hold on a home on Danielson and decided to let it go because of the turnpike noise. Could of been the direction of the wind that particular day ,but, the sound was surprisingly loud. Can’t you transfer your money to another house within the first few weeks? I thought I read someone was able to transfer their money from a villa that was their second choice when their first choice which was a veranda home unexpectedly came back on the market. Ask your sales person about that.

golfgal44
08-03-2021, 04:59 PM
This thread with the worries about not being happy with your location makes us happy we bought in an established village and knew what we were getting.

I would love to have done that but it was nearly impossible to find a three, let alone a four car garage with two master suites and a light or white interior. If you know of any, I’m still open.

JMintzer
08-03-2021, 09:25 PM
I would love to have done that but it was nearly impossible to find a three, let alone a four car garage with two master suites and a light or white interior. If you know of any, I’m still open.

Walls can easily be painted... I've seen plenty of 3 car garages and a few 4 car (but they were premier homes)... Only a few w/a 2nd (but smaller) Master Suite...

Woodbear
08-03-2021, 10:50 PM
As for traffic noise, we were put up in the Marsh Bend area for design appointment and we find the traffic noise here exponentially louder than Citrus Grove.

Normal
08-04-2021, 05:17 AM
Wow, the lots and homes that just went up for sale along the golf course are breathtaking. There seem to be a bunch of naysayers on this blog who would rather not take a look or who have some kind of a preconceived idea? It’s OK, but why be so negative about it? Welcome all!

https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/S72V.28?new&preowned&homesites&status&lng=-81.96428135171149&lat=28.77961765242652&lvl=9

Road-Runner
08-04-2021, 11:57 AM
Our house 2 hours south of The Villages backs up to a fairly busy two lane road with only a greenspace in between and we get a lot of noise especially from trucks. We hoped the 100 yards or so of trees and underbrush would make a difference but it honestly doesn't. After 2 years we still hear the noise but we're used to it, but very much look forward to our house in Bradford which is far enough from Morse not to hear traffic on it and only in the dead of night have we ever heard anything from a distant turnpike. People who've lived in similar settings aren't going to care, but if you're coming from a rural or suburban area the noise from the turnpike is going to take some getting used to.

kkingston57
08-05-2021, 08:07 AM
We lived 15+ years 1/2 mile away from 1-95(5 lanes vs 2 on the turnpike) in Palm Beach County. Lived west of the road, but road did have a concrete wall barrier. Only heard road noise when wind coming from east.

Do not know if builder offers to install impact resistant windows. They were extremely good at cutting down outside noise and are much better quality than the builder grade windows most contractors use. They might also qualify to lower your Homeowner insurance premium.

golfgal44
08-05-2021, 09:20 AM
I put a hold on a home on Danielson and decided to let it go because of the turnpike noise. Could of been the direction of the wind that particular day ,but, the sound was surprisingly loud. Can’t you transfer your money to another house within the first few weeks? I thought I read someone was able to transfer their money from a villa that was their second choice when their first choice which was a veranda home unexpectedly came back on the market. Ask your sales person about that.

Yes i could have but in my opinion, there are no great lots in citrus grove which are large enough for a 3 or 4 car garage with a view not nearer to the turnpike or the power lines. This would not have been my first choice of villages to live but all other villages coming out in the near future appear to be even closer to a major road with no great views.

Normal
08-05-2021, 06:01 PM
Yes i could have but in my opinion, there are no great lots in citrus grove which are large enough for a 3 or 4 car garage with a view not nearer to the turnpike or the power lines. This would not have been my first choice of villages to live but all other villages coming out in the near future appear to be even closer to a major road with no great views.

Fenney Hammock lots open up tomorrow. They are all view lots and far from the turnpike. Look for Fenney on the map, then look for the GreyFox Golf Course.

Robnlaura
08-12-2021, 04:08 PM
I am looking to move to T.V. Currently, new sales are in Citrus Grove. I just put a deposit on a lot on danielson loop behind a retention pond in line with hole number 3 on the southern oaks golf course. After placing the deposit, I noticed that there was a light green area on the map which indicates non village property. It is located a little below hole number 5 on the golf course. I asked my salesman what will be put there. He keeps saying he is looking into it. Within two days, I must wire transfer my next check to him. I am concerned. I watched a drone video and it looks like the green area will be a power station. It seems to be about 1/4 mile away from my location on Danielson on loop. How dangerous is that. Will there be high towers which will be seen from my location? Also, wondering if I will hear noise from the tpke. And the new ezell rec center, something I did not see originally. If I cancel now, I would only lose $2500 versus $10,000. Please help!

Be very careful with these realtors at the villages .. they are only interested in getting a commission.. period . I have spoken to two realtors already both are worthless .. be very very careful .. power lines scrubland crappy “water front “ lots very very disappointed with the realtors I have dealt with

Robnlaura
08-12-2021, 05:07 PM
We are buying with a clear and present view of the massive power lines in the back.

We choose to look at it as a positive, as there can never ever be houses built behind us. No kissing lanais for us. Just open land for where those lines go through. Some well placed trees and landscaping will take the focus off most of it.

In reality, this is a no brainer trade-off for all the great things they are planning for that area.

What’s wrong with a wall ? Why anyone would pay a premium to look at an electric line is beyond me .. only in the villages is junk land a premium

Kelevision
08-12-2021, 05:24 PM
What’s wrong with a wall ? Why anyone would pay a premium to look at an electric line is beyond me .. only in the villages is junk land a premium

Who said they paid a premium? :popcorn:

JSR22
08-12-2021, 06:42 PM
What’s wrong with a wall ? Why anyone would pay a premium to look at an electric line is beyond me .. only in the villages is junk land a premium
It is not junk land. So many negative posts why are you looking to buy here?