American Airlines New Vaccinated Requirement

[Tmarkwald]

Flying with American Airlines? Get your vaccine card ready.

On Thursday, the Fort Worth-based carrier announced that it’s adding a vaccine passport capability to its health passport mobile app, Verifly. Flyers can now securely upload their CDC vaccination card before a trip, which will then be verified and processed before departure.

A customer may be required by a local destination to have proof of a COVID-19 immunization. American will confirm the customer has documents required by their destination’s local government before they board the plane.

This will ensure there are no falsified vaccine credentials on any AA flights.

As AA is based in Texas, it follows Texas law.

As countries continue to set standards for COVID-19 vaccination requirements, VeriFLY will integrate those standards into its verification processes.

Newsroom - American Airlines Customers Can Now Choose Convenient Vaccine Verification Option in VeriFLY - American Airlines Group, Inc. (https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2021/American-Airlines-Customers-Can-Now-Choose-Convenient-Vaccine-Verification-Option-in-VeriFLY-OPS-DIS-05/default.aspx)

So, I guess this is the beginning.......

[Tmarkwald]

Flying with American Airlines? Get your vaccine card ready.

On Thursday, the Fort Worth-based carrier announced that it’s adding a vaccine passport capability to its health passport mobile app, Verifly. Flyers can now securely upload their CDC vaccination card before a trip, which will then be verified and processed before departure.

This will ensure there are no falsified vaccine credentials on any AA flights.

As AA is based in Texas, it follows Texas law which requires the vaccine to fly.

As countries continue to set standards for COVID-19 vaccination requirements, VeriFLY will integrate those standards into its verification processes.

Newsroom - American Airlines Customers Can Now Choose Convenient Vaccine Verification Option in VeriFLY - American Airlines Group, Inc. (https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2021/American-Airlines-Customers-Can-Now-Choose-Convenient-Vaccine-Verification-Option-in-VeriFLY-OPS-DIS-05/default.aspx)

So, I guess this is the beginning.......

Wonder how long before everyone else does it?

[Byte1]

Sounds like a joke. Just another excuse for me to stay home. I suppose each state will eventually have it's own passport/ID papers that you have to show upon entering their state. Can't wait.
On the other hand, went to Walmart yesterday and there was no mask sign and very few folks are wearing a mask now. Works for me. Now, if they can just find a better way for those big shoppers carts to stay out of the way and still manage to shop for those too scared to enter the store. Glad to see folks employed though, so I wish them well. Retirement is great, because delays and holdups in my shopping no longer bothers me. No other place that I have to be in a hurry.
Airlines want proof of vaccination? How about proof of booster shots? Don't worry folks, you can still get on the plane with the Flu.

[Ecuadog]

I am reading bad reviews of the VeriFLY app.

[manaboutown]

This is offered as a convenience by AA. Good!

[Papa_lecki]

I’m against the vaccine passport thing - this seems like a convenience if your destination requires vaccines (i.e. the EU). It’s not a requirement to fly AA.

Ill bet some Caribbean islands will require vaccines soon.

[tophcfa]

I am very much in favor of having a proof of vaccination and people being required to have one to fly. I just don't want the verification to be in the form of an app. Why does everything have to be through an app. I am not surgically attached to my phone. How about we just get a government issued verification card similar to a drivers license, or better yet the verification can be linked to ones TSA pre-check account?

[golfing eagles]

I am very much in favor of having a proof of vaccination and people being required to have one to fly. I just don't want the verification to be in the form of an app. Why does everything have to be through an app. I am not surgically attached to my phone. How about we just get a government issued verification card similar to a drivers license, or better yet the verification can be linked to ones TSA pre-check account?

Great in theory, but not everyone has TSA pre-check. And consider the logistical nightmare of getting 330 million cards out there? Just when the last person gets his/hers, then the boosters will come along. Then you have all the problems that come along with a "vaccine passport"---4th amendment rights, HIPPA, those who are allergic, religious objectors, etc.

[Art cov]

To easy to loose a card so maybe a special tattoo or mark will do in future with all records available.

[tophcfa]

Great in theory, but not everyone has TSA pre-check. And consider the logistical nightmare of getting 330 million cards out there? Just when the last person gets his/hers, then the boosters will come along. Then you have all the problems that come along with a "vaccine passport"---4th amendment rights, HIPPA, those who are allergic, religious objectors, etc.

Good point, I saw on the news last night that Moderna is working on a booster that could possibly be available as soon as September.

[JMintzer]

To easy to loose a card so maybe a special tattoo or mark will do in future with all records available.

You mean something like this?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9317374-16x9-2150x1210.jpg

[Swoop]

It’s just a convenient way to travel to a country that requires visitors be vaccinated. It’s not American Airlines requiring the proof of vaccination. It has nothing to do with domestic flights.

[stanley]

You mean something like this?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9317374-16x9-2150x1210.jpg

Exactly..............be careful what you wish for.................

[FromNY]

Never mind proof of vaccine. How about proof for Antibodies? The vaccine gives a false sense of protection. Know if you have Antibodies your immune system is working to protect you. Personally it is each persons right to vaccinate or not.

[Petersweeney]

It’s not a vaccination, they are taking your DNA for those recently spotted alien aircraft......lmao

[Hiltongrizz11]

I am very much in favor of having a proof of vaccination and people being required to have one to fly. I just don't want the verification to be in the form of an app. Why does everything have to be through an app. I am not surgically attached to my phone. How about we just get a government issued verification card similar to a drivers license, or better yet the verification can be linked to ones TSA pre-check account?

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? You're okay with having to present your papers however you don't like the method that they're presented? That's where you make the stand?

I'm so disappointed that you and every American who is okay with surrendering health information to private companies on governmental request or company request is okay with it. That just shows you how far we've come and how far we've slid. All the people that fought for our freedom and the revolutionary war would have blood in their eyes knowing this. We aren't asked to die on a battlefield All we have to do is take a stand over stupid stuff like this and we pansie out and justify it. Accepting his requirements is wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

[tvmurray]

Flying with American Airlines? Get your vaccine card ready.

On Thursday, the Fort Worth-based carrier announced that it’s adding a vaccine passport capability to its health passport mobile app, Verifly. Flyers can now securely upload their CDC vaccination card before a trip, which will then be verified and processed before departure.

A customer may be required by a local destination to have proof of a COVID-19 immunization. American will confirm the customer has documents required by their destination’s local government before they board the plane.

This will ensure there are no falsified vaccine credentials on any AA flights.

As AA is based in Texas, it follows Texas law.

As countries continue to set standards for COVID-19 vaccination requirements, VeriFLY will integrate those standards into its verification processes.

Newsroom - American Airlines Customers Can Now Choose Convenient Vaccine Verification Option in VeriFLY - American Airlines Group, Inc. (https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2021/American-Airlines-Customers-Can-Now-Choose-Convenient-Vaccine-Verification-Option-in-VeriFLY-OPS-DIS-05/default.aspx)

So, I guess this is the beginning.......

This is starting to remind me of something I learned in history class --- vee must show das papers, or off to das showers!!!

Guess that is why they don't like history being taught.

[am.zinger@aol.com]

Vaccine Cards are important but Voter ID isn't???

[bonrich]

Bar code on the back of your neck. That way we can pass through a scanner and needed "verifications" would show and no more paper stuff.

[Astron]

If you want to travel and there is a vaccination requirement at your destination the carrier is usually required to verify that you have had your shots before boarding you. It has been this way for decades. It only became a political issue when people politicized an infectious disease when COVID19 assaulted humanity. It is not difficult, if you want to travel to “E” and they require a vaccination for for COVID19, yellow fever or whatever; get the shot & show the proof, or don’t go. With every freedom come a responsibility. If you want the freedom to travel, you are responsible for meeting the host’s requirements.

[Andyb]

Unconstitutional. Let the lawsuits begin.

[Andyb]

Funny, they are not stopping all the illegal aliens for a vac card to enter the US or get on a bus or plane as they are being distributed to 48 states. Credible reports are they are not being tested and have 10 times the number of positive cases.

[golfing eagles]

Unconstitutional. Let the lawsuits begin.

Are you a constitutional law expert? (Like a former POTUS:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:)

I think it will be up to the SCOTUS to determine if such a policy violates the 4th amendment.

[J1ceasar]

Yes you can upload your report card, but it's not legally required for travel in the US, the important word is travel in the US, however, is still required for many countries outside of the US. PS did you know the government as a master health file on you whether you've gotten vaccinated or not? It's true.

[gemini5001]

You mean like the sign of the beast ?

[Dantes]

Learn to speak German and do the goose step it’s all but hear

[james.grigg@yahoo.com]

Astron, you are absolutely correct. AA does NOT require it.period! There is no requirement by AA. This is how screwed up we’ve become. Look at the comments on this topic — Really? This would be National News by ALL the networks if even hinted at by airlines.

[MandoMan]

To easy to loose a card so maybe a special tattoo or mark will do in future with all records available.

I keep my vaccine card in my passport, and I keep that in my suitcase. It’s no harder to lose a passport than to lose a vaccine card. I never fly without my passport, so I never fly without my vaccine card. Proof of vaccination should be required to ride on public transport, especially planes and cruise ships, and at sporting events. Just as an ID should be required in order to vote or fly.

[UTCFL]

If you were a Member of the Unique Travel Club you could skip the crowds and never fly with Strangers again! No more long hours spent in crowded Terminals checking in luggage, going through TSA security screening, waiting to board, waiting to pick up luggage, having to catch a connecting flight or having your connecting flight canceled. You could park close to the Plane, enter thru a Private Entrance, hand any luggage you may have to the Pilot, Board the Plane and depart in minutes. Instead of the long drive to Orlando you could fly out of the Leesburg Airport just minutes away from The Villages.

[Swoop]

I keep my vaccine card in my passport, and I keep that in my suitcase. It’s no harder to lose a passport than to lose a vaccine card. I never fly without my passport, so I never fly without my vaccine card. Proof of vaccination should be required to ride on public transport, especially planes and cruise ships, and at sporting events. Just as an ID should be required in order to vote or fly.

Really?!?

[asianthree]

Proof of vaccination should be required to ride on public transport, especially planes and cruise ships, and at sporting events. Just as an ID should be required in order to vote or fly.

So you don’t trust the science of the vaccine? Your theory is interesting, that at least if you test positive, ya know it was from someone who was vaccinated

[graciegirl]

Exactly..............be careful what you wish for.................

This picture is devastating to most of us. I hate to see it used in a debate on vaccine. No one was forced to get it. It was free. If private companies want to make rules on it, that is their choice.

I am beginning to be a little selfish. Me and mine are vaccinated. I can't run other people's railroads. Or change anyone elses mind. I am so glad to call SAFE, on my family and friends.

[MollyJo]

To easy to loose a card so maybe a special tattoo or mark will do in future with all records available.

Tattoo? With every vaccine? I’m against tattoos 😂

[merrymini]

To easy to loose a card so maybe a special tattoo or mark will do in future with all records available.

Maybe they can tattoo you every time you get an inoculation, p for pneumonia, s for shingles, f for flu, c for covid. And they should do it on your forehead so everyone can be forewarned about how inoculated you are.

[DeanFL]

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In the latter portion of my life, I try to live by the KISS mantra. And not to worry much on matters that really do not affect me or mine, or things I cannot control. Good for the nerves, the B/P, and life in general.

I keep my VAX card in my wallet, if anyone requests it - I would show it to them. Taking 6 leg of flights in 2 weeks on SWA. If anyone of authority asks, I show. No big deal. And IF SWA still has the 'mask on except between bites&sips'...I will be biting and sipping veeeeeery often.
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[sallyg]

You mean something like this?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9317374-16x9-2150x1210.jpg
No, nothing like that.

[oneclickplus]

I keep my vaccine card in my passport, and I keep that in my suitcase. It’s no harder to lose a passport than to lose a vaccine card. I never fly without my passport, so I never fly without my vaccine card. Proof of vaccination should be required to ride on public transport, especially planes and cruise ships, and at sporting events. Just as an ID should be required in order to vote or fly.

Why? Don't those who got the shot believe it works for them? If you got the shot, you should be able to walk amongst a concert hall full of infected people.

Or is it really about control?

[oneclickplus]

So you don’t trust the science of the vaccine? Your theory is interesting, that at least if you test positive, ya know it was from someone who was vaccinated

LOL - good observation.

[dwhite5773]

To easy to loose a card so maybe a special tattoo or mark will do in future with all records available.
Microchip in the COVID shot! Yep!

[Spalumbos62]

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? You're okay with having to present your papers however you don't like the method that they're presented? That's where you make the stand?

I'm so disappointed that you and every American who is okay with surrendering health information to private companies on governmental request or company request is okay with it. That just shows you how far we've come and how far we've slid. All the people that fought for our freedom and the revolutionary war would have blood in their eyes knowing this. We aren't asked to die on a battlefield All we have to do is take a stand over stupid stuff like this and we pansie out and justify it. Accepting his requirements is wrong. Wrong. Wrong.


Oh come on.....its not really giving up your medical record....its a yes or no answer. And they have every right to ask it. If I owned a cruise ship...hell no you are not getting on without the shot. End of story.

[Rodneysblue]

Ihre Papiere bitte.

[ffresh]

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? You're okay with having to present your papers however you don't like the method that they're presented? That's where you make the stand?

I'm so disappointed that you and every American who is okay with surrendering health information to private companies on governmental request or company request is okay with it. That just shows you how far we've come and how far we've slid. All the people that fought for our freedom and the revolutionary war would have blood in their eyes knowing this. We aren't asked to die on a battlefield All we have to do is take a stand over stupid stuff like this and we pansie out and justify it. Accepting his requirements is wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Although I haven't posted on TOTV in quite awhile, I attempt to read some of the posts with my morning coffee, both for amusement and occasional useful information. I have found posting to be mostly futile and have, therefore, refrained from that activity. HOWEVER, every now and then along comes a comment or post from someone who exhibits a complete understanding of the issue as well as the resultant "fallout". I am very thankful that there is still a remnant of Americans who understand what America is supposed to be about and you stated it so eloquently! Again ... thank you.


I am confident and sad that, when future historians write about the decline and fall of the United States, the failure of the press to inform the people will be counted as a principle cause. Charles Reese (Orlando Sentinel columnist) Nov '99

[Byte1]

This is starting to remind me of something I learned in history class --- vee must show das papers, or off to das showers!!!

Guess that is why they don't like history being taught.

That has negative connotations so they do not teach that in public schools anymore. No one younger than us will know what you are referring to. :ohdear:

[Byte1]

What will be interesting is when the destination requires a booster requirement. How will they determine when you should have had the booster? Everyone gets their vaccinations at differing times and a booster might be given every six months or so. How will they decide when you are current? It's all a bunch of hysterical panic brought on by weak minded or power hungry people. I have traveled to many countries in my lifetime and very seldom have I been required to provide vaccination proof UNLESS I apply for a visa in a country requiring certain vaccinations. I can't even remember the last country where I had to provide my shot record. I am not saying that countries do not request it, just that I don't remember any of them that have in my experience.
AA is only providing a service, not a requirement........yet.

[Byte1]

Oh come on.....its not really giving up your medical record....its a yes or no answer. And they have every right to ask it. If I owned a cruise ship...hell no you are not getting on without the shot. End of story.

I am sure that there are those that are glad that you do not own a cruise ship.

[Byte1]

Tattoo? With every vaccine? I’m against tattoos 😂

Sure and they can put it right next to the "tramp stamp" or "whale tail" or whatever they call it today...........:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

[Byte1]

Microchip in the COVID shot! Yep!

You can laugh about that, but I have read a study regarding the putting of dye in the vaccine so that folks will be able to SEE proof of vaccination. Of course, that is also easy to copy at your nearest tattoo parlor.

[Pat2015]

The heading on this post leads one to believe that you can’t fly AA if you’re not vaccinated which is not true. If your destination requires that you be vaccinated it makes sense to be sure people are vaccinated, just like requiring a passport on an international flight. That’s a big difference from insinuating that this is just the beginning of forcing airline passengers to produce proof of vaccination to board a plane.

[WVB#1]

I am very much in favor of having a proof of vaccination and people being required to have one to fly. I just don't want the verification to be in the form of an app. Why does everything have to be through an app. I am not surgically attached to my phone. How about we just get a government issued verification card similar to a drivers license, or better yet the verification can be linked to ones TSA pre-check account?

Great example of "I want what I want, doesn't matter what you want." I want to require everyone else to get a vaccine and have to prove it but I don't care that it might be more convenient/efficient/cost effective to do it electronically and I want to create a whole new govt bureaucracy because I want a physical Id. There is so much wrong with this (beginning with everyone must be vaccinated to be able to fly). And they call the ones who don't feel the need to wear a mask or get vaccinated the selfish ones.

[cassjax2]

Proof of vaccine is just another step to track you and bring you to the world of socialism and all that brings to this once great country. 🥺😡🥺

[coffeebean]

If you want to travel and there is a vaccination requirement at your destination the carrier is usually required to verify that you have had your shots before boarding you. It has been this way for decades. It only became a political issue when people politicized an infectious disease when COVID19 assaulted humanity. It is not difficult, if you want to travel to “E” and they require a vaccination for for COVID19, yellow fever or whatever; get the shot & show the proof, or don’t go. With every freedom come a responsibility. If you want the freedom to travel, you are responsible for meeting the host’s requirements.

Cruise lines are in the same "boat" (no pun intended) if they want to home port in Florida. The cruise lines will not be able to call on ports in foreign countries if those countries require proof of Covid vaccination. Imposing a ban on businesses who need to require proof of vaccination will certainly hinder the operation of cruise lines who wish to home port in Florida.

[coffeebean]

Funny, they are not stopping all the illegal aliens for a vac card to enter the US or get on a bus or plane as they are being distributed to 48 states. Credible reports are they are not being tested and have 10 times the number of positive cases.

If this is really occurring, it is criminal and I am appalled.

[coffeebean]

Yes you can upload your report card, but it's not legally required for travel in the US, the important word is travel in the US, however, is still required for many countries outside of the US. PS did you know the government as a master health file on you whether you've gotten vaccinated or not? It's true.

PLEASE, PLEASE let this be true. When push comes to shove, this will eliminate the forgeries that non-vaccinated people will undoubtedly try to get away with if proof of vaccination is required for whatever.

[Gulfcoast]

Great in theory, but not everyone has TSA pre-check. And consider the logistical nightmare of getting 330 million cards out there? Just when the last person gets his/hers, then the boosters will come along. Then you have all the problems that come along with a "vaccine passport"---4th amendment rights, HIPPA, those who are allergic, religious objectors, etc.

I guess the people who have no cell phones or use basic flip phones and don't use apps at all will not be able to fly?

[golfing eagles]

I guess the people who have no cell phones or use basic flip phones and don't use apps at all will not be able to fly?

Maybe the current administration will give away "free" smartphones to those they determine need them:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

What will be interesting is when the destination requires a booster requirement. How will they determine when you should have had the booster? Everyone gets their vaccinations at differing times and a booster might be given every six months or so. How will they decide when you are current? It's all a bunch of hysterical panic brought on by weak minded or power hungry people. I have traveled to many countries in my lifetime and very seldom have I been required to provide vaccination proof UNLESS I apply for a visa in a country requiring certain vaccinations. I can't even remember the last country where I had to provide my shot record. I am not saying that countries do not request it, just that I don't remember any of them that have in my experience.
AA is only providing a service, not a requirement........yet.

Covid just may change that scenario you described, and it is already happening........

COVID travel restrictions: Where fully vaccinated Americans can go (https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2021/05/19/covid-travel-restrictions-countries-fully-vaccinated-americans-europe/7284487002/)

[coffeebean]

I am sure that there are those that are glad that you do not own a cruise ship.

There are PLENTY of folks who will not set one foot on a cruise ship unless all passengers and crew are vaccinated (at least for the start up of cruising). Have you been to the cruise forums? There are a few anti-vaxxers and hesitant vaxxers that are whining like you wouldn't believe because they are not able to board a cruise ship. Wha Wha Wha Wha Wha and it is so damn comical. They make me chuckle just like the folks on this forum that are so opposed to that "government control".

[coffeebean]

The heading on this post leads one to believe that you can’t fly AA if you’re not vaccinated which is not true. If your destination requires that you be vaccinated it makes sense to be sure people are vaccinated, just like requiring a passport on an international flight. That’s a big difference from insinuating that this is just the beginning of forcing airline passengers to produce proof of vaccination to board a plane.

Absolutely correct SO FAR regarding the airlines. Not so, however, for cruise lines. Proof of vaccination is required to board a cruise ship. I can't wait to see how this new Florida law that DeSantis orchestrated that bans businesses from requesting proof of vaccination will shake out. AND, there is no exception for cruise lines.

[JMintzer]

No, nothing like that.

Then what type of "mark or tattoo" (that was being proposed) would you suggest?

[Gulfcoast]

Maybe the current administration will give away "free" smartphones to those they determine need them:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

The recipients would just sell the free government provided phones in order to pay for their fake vaccination cards.

[stanley]

Then what type of "mark or tattoo" (that was being proposed) would you suggest?

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[Pat2015]

Absolutely correct SO FAR regarding the airlines. Not so, however, for cruise lines. Proof of vaccination is required to board a cruise ship. I can't wait to see how this new Florida law that DeSantis orchestrated that bans businesses from requesting proof of vaccination will shake out. AND, there is no exception for cruise lines.
Cruise lines have been given ridiculous guidelines by the CDC in order to cruise to include masks by the pool and at the dinner table which the industry is fighting back on. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

[Pat2015]

Yes you can upload your report card, but it's not legally required for travel in the US, the important word is travel in the US, however, is still required for many countries outside of the US. PS did you know the government as a master health file on you whether you've gotten vaccinated or not? It's true.
Absolutely true as everyone who has been vaccinated is participating in the ongoing clinical study and being tracked by local health departments and the federal government to see what the results of the vaccine are in the short term, and long term.

[Bonnevie]

Absolutely true as everyone who has been vaccinated is participating in the ongoing clinical study to see what the results of the vaccine are in the short term, and long term.

you can say the same thing about being prescribed a new medicine. there have been many cases of medications being pulled from the market after side effects that did not present in trials became more evident with widespread use.

[Pat2015]

you can say the same thing about being prescribed a new medicine. there have been many cases of medications being pulled from the market after side effects that did not present in trials became more evident with widespread use.
Not the same as COVID vaccine tracking on everyone who has been vaccinated. The local health dept is not tracking what medications you take but they are tracking and reporting your vaccine type, dates, and batch numbers to study the effects as part of the ongoing clinical study of the side effects and efficiencies of the vaccines.

[Pat2015]

you can say the same thing about being prescribed a new medicine. there have been many cases of medications being pulled from the market after side effects that did not present in trials became more evident with widespread use.
Not the same as COVID vaccine tracking on everyone who has been vaccinated. The local health dept is not tracking what medications you take but they are tracking and reporting your vaccine type, dates, and batch numbers to study the effects as part of the ongoing clinical study of the side effects and efficiencies of the vaccines.

[rjsantos592]

One step closer to socialism. Government trying to control our lives. What's next tatoos?

[JMintzer]

....

That's just a more modern, "hotter" version of what I posted! ;)

[coffeebean]

Cruise lines have been given ridiculous guidelines by the CDC in order to cruise to include masks by the pool and at the dinner table which the industry is fighting back on. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

NCL is looking elsewhere to home port. The CDC is ridiculous, especially when NCL is guaranteeing FULLY vaccinated ships.......

From the NCL website: "Our cruises will operate with 100% vaccination of guests and crew through 10/31/21, therefore face coverings are not required but are highly recommended where physical distancing is not possible indoors for cruises prior to 10/31/21."

[coffeebean]

Absolutely true as everyone who has been vaccinated is participating in the ongoing clinical study and being tracked by local health departments and the federal government to see what the results of the vaccine are in the short term, and long term.

Tracking is a good thing. Even when medications have full FDA approval, isn't there some form of tracking adverse reactions? How else can they pull medications that have been sold with full FDA approval from the market? Zantac and Vicodin come to mind. Those drugs had full FDA approval and sold for many years yet were pulled from shelves. How did they know there were problems if not for receiving adverse side side effects reports? I'm sure these vaccines will be tracked and studied for many years beyond FDA approval. I have no problem with that.

[coffeebean]

Not the same as COVID vaccine tracking on everyone who has been vaccinated. The local health dept is not tracking what medications you take but they are tracking and reporting your vaccine type, dates, and batch numbers to study the effects as part of the ongoing clinical study of the side effects and efficiencies of the vaccines.

That is a good thing. No? I get it. These vaccines only have emergency use authorization. It was either that or have many more millions of people die of Covid. It was an excellent option to save millions of lives.

[coffeebean]

One step closer to socialism. Government trying to control our lives. What's next tatoos?

Oh stop with the tattoo talk. That is ridiculous and you know it and so does everyone else who says the same thing about tattoos. Government control? Nah. Just public health to keep us safe.

[Bill14564]

Not the same as COVID vaccine tracking on everyone who has been vaccinated. The local health dept is not tracking what medications you take but they are tracking and reporting your vaccine type, dates, and batch numbers to study the effects as part of the ongoing clinical study of the side effects and efficiencies of the vaccines.

And your proof of this or evidence of this or anything to show you didn't make it up yourself is.......

It is quite likely that my name is associated with the information you mention in some database somewhere. My name is associated with many pieces of information in many databases somewhere. That doesn't mean the databases are being actively used to track me.

[JMintzer]

Oh stop with the tattoo talk. That is ridiculous and you know it and so does everyone else who says the same thing about tattoos. Government control? Nah. Just public health to keep us safe.

It was suggested as a viable option by another poster...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

If you want to travel and there is a vaccination requirement at your destination the carrier is usually required to verify that you have had your shots before boarding you. It has been this way for decades. It only became a political issue when people politicized an infectious disease when COVID19 assaulted humanity. It is not difficult, if you want to travel to “E” and they require a vaccination for for COVID19, yellow fever or whatever; get the shot & show the proof, or don’t go. With every freedom come a responsibility. If you want the freedom to travel, you are responsible for meeting the host’s requirements.

Sadly, logic and practicality tend to get lost in this crowd. Thanks for a reasonable response though.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It was suggested as a viable option by another poster...

So you conformed to that other poster's idea.

Because, you conform, automatically. It's just what you do.

Like if someone said "hey let's show proof that we're vaccinated!" you'll conform.

Or if someone said, "hey let's overturn the government and storm the capitol and try to kill the VP" you'd conform.

Because someone else said it/did it/posted it first.

[Pat2015]

And your proof of this or evidence of this or anything to show you didn't make it up yourself is.......

It is quite likely that my name is associated with the information you mention in some database somewhere. My name is associated with many pieces of information in many databases somewhere. That doesn't mean the databases are being actively used to track me.

Believe that if you wish but every vaccinated person is being tracked by the local health dept with their name and identifying info along with the type of vaccine, dates administered, and batch numbers. I never said it was a bad thing, just that it’s a real thing as all vaccinated people are part of the ongoing clinical research.

[NoMoSno]

Believe that if you wish but every vaccinated person is being tracked by the local health dept with their name and identifying info along with the type of vaccine, dates administered, and batch numbers. I never said it was a bad thing, just that it’s a real thing as all vaccinated people are part of the ongoing clinical research.
Other than your name, what other "identifying" info did they get about you?

[Bill14564]

Believe that if you wish but every vaccinated person is being tracked by the local health dept with their name and identifying info along with the type of vaccine, dates administered, and batch numbers. I never said it was a bad thing, just that it’s a real thing as all vaccinated people are part of the ongoing clinical research.

So then you have nothing but your assertion.

Since I didn't get my vaccination locally, I'm pretty sure the Sumter County Health Dept. has no information on me. Of course, I can't know that absolutely, but I know enough about how Govt works to feel safe with my statement.

[Pat2015]

Other than your name, what other "identifying" info did they get about you?
They have all the information that you placed on the form that you filled out to include your name, date of birth, address, phone # along with your vaccination dates/type/batch number which is all in their database computer system. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, but I am saying that it’s a fact that the local health dept in the area where you get vaccinated has all of this information.

[Pat2015]

So then you have nothing but your assertion.

Since I didn't get my vaccination locally, I'm pretty sure the Sumter County Health Dept. has no information on me. Of course, I can't know that absolutely, but I know enough about how Govt works to feel safe with my statement.
Why wouldn’t you think that your info isn’t being tracked by the local health dept? They obtain the vaccines which they give out to different places and all of your information that you provided to obtain the vaccine wherever you received it was put into a database. If there is an issue with the batch of the vaccine that you obtained don’t be surprised to get a call or letter from the health department. All vaccination doses are accounted for as well as their recipients by the health dept. Give the local health department where you got your vaccine a call and ask them about getting another vaccination card if yours is lost. Sumter County can provide that for you if you were vaccinated in that county. Once again, not saying it’s wrong to track people with their vaccines, as there’s a good reason to do that as part of the ongoing study.

[JMintzer]

So you conformed to that other poster's idea.

Because, you conform, automatically. It's just what you do.

Like if someone said "hey let's show proof that we're vaccinated!" you'll conform.

Or if someone said, "hey let's overturn the government and storm the capitol and try to kill the VP" you'd conform.

Because someone else said it/did it/posted it first.

How in the hell did you infer THAT from what I posted???

Some people's children... SMDH...

[coffeebean]

It was suggested as a viable option by another poster...

Viable? I don't think so. No, more like snarky.

[Lottoguy]

People should take a photo of their vaccine card and then send that photo to their email account. Then put it into their SAVED file for future use. This is just good insurance in case you lose the card.

[JMintzer]

Viable? I don't think so. No, more like snarky.

Think again...

My response? It was most certainly snarky...

[JMintzer]

Please point out the snark in the post I initially responded to...

"To (sic) easy to loose a card so maybe a special tattoo or mark will do in future with all records available."

[kathyspear]

If you were a Member of the Unique Travel Club you could skip the crowds and never fly with Strangers again! No more long hours spent in crowded Terminals checking in luggage, going through TSA security screening, waiting to board, waiting to pick up luggage, having to catch a connecting flight or having your connecting flight canceled. You could park close to the Plane, enter thru a Private Entrance, hand any luggage you may have to the Pilot, Board the Plane and depart in minutes. Instead of the long drive to Orlando you could fly out of the Leesburg Airport just minutes away from The Villages.

Where can one go to learn more about this organization?

kathy

[DaveGodin]

Great in theory, but not everyone has TSA pre-check. And consider the logistical nightmare of getting 330 million cards out there? Just when the last person gets his/hers, then the boosters will come along. Then you have all the problems that come along with a "vaccine passport"---4th amendment rights, HIPPA, those who are allergic, religious objectors, etc.

The HIPAA law does not apply here. Any business can ask for your vaccination status, including your employer (except in FL where Gov DeSantis has made it illegal). And not only businesses. Schools can also ask for your vaccination status and can restrict entry based on it.

These are the businesses that have to follow HIPAA rules about your health information. This is per the government HIPAA website.

Your Rights Under HIPAA | HHS.gov (https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/guidance-materials-for-consumers/index.html)

Covered entities include:

Health Plans, including health insurance companies, HMOs, company health plans, and certain government programs that pay for health care, such as Medicare and Medicaid.
Most Health Care Providers—those that conduct certain business electronically, such as electronically billing your health insurance—including most doctors, clinics, hospitals, psychologists, chiropractors, nursing homes, pharmacies, and dentists.
Health Care Clearinghouses—entities that process nonstandard health information they receive from another entity into a standard (i.e., standard electronic format or data content), or vice versa.
In addition, business associates of covered entities must follow parts of the HIPAA regulations.

[Bill14564]

Why wouldn’t you think that your info isn’t being tracked by the local health dept? They obtain the vaccines which they give out to different places and all of your information that you provided to obtain the vaccine wherever you received it was put into a database. If there is an issue with the batch of the vaccine that you obtained don’t be surprised to get a call or letter from the health department. All vaccination doses are accounted for as well as their recipients by the health dept. Give the local health department where you got your vaccine a call and ask them about getting another vaccination card if yours is lost. Sumter County can provide that for you if you were vaccinated in that county. Once again, not saying it’s wrong to track people with their vaccines, as there’s a good reason to do that as part of the ongoing study.

My problem is with the word "tracked" which, to me, implies an active, ongoing process to monitor me. I do not believe there is any active monitoring happening.

Is there a database somewhere linking the vaccine batch number with my name? Probably, and I expect the same for other vaccinations I have had. Is the Covid database with my name in Sumter County? Doubtful. I wouldn't know where to start to request a new card... I might just look into that.

[reneeallen4]

reminds me of when I have to show that my dog has been vaccinated for rabies...lol

[reneeallen4]

yes or no answer....have you had HIV...have you had the crabs....have you been vaccinated against hep B, meningitis, etc etc?