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bobdeb
05-25-2021, 04:53 PM
Please don't let this happen to Florida.


Bad Laws Cause Homeless Crisis - YouTube (https://youtu.be/b9pgh5EO6lw)

Topspinmo
05-25-2021, 04:59 PM
Please don't let this happen to Florida.


Bad Laws Cause Homeless Crisis - YouTube (https://youtu.be/b9pgh5EO6lw)

Sorry coming to city near you:boom:

bobdeb
05-25-2021, 05:05 PM
That was supposed to be a question.

Worst slums in the world?

I've been through India and seen some strange stuff. Sadly, this is in the US.

Ben Franklin
05-26-2021, 08:05 AM
Please don't let this happen to Florida.


Bad Laws Cause Homeless Crisis - YouTube (https://youtu.be/b9pgh5EO6lw)

You can find YouTube videos like that about Jacksonville, Miami, Belle Glade... It has already happened. What's the solution?

Two Bills
05-26-2021, 08:13 AM
Wife and I could not believe our eyes when we visited Vancouver.
Looks just the same.

Mortal1
05-26-2021, 08:19 AM
Not just bad laws, but unenforced laws as well.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-26-2021, 10:59 AM
I guess the OP has never heard of the Ocala Forest.

kcrazorbackfan
05-26-2021, 11:34 AM
East St. Louis, Illinois.

bobdeb
05-26-2021, 12:50 PM
I guess the OP has never heard of the Ocala Forest.

Thank you, and yes I have.

I'm unaware of the situation being similar. Homeless yes. Subsidies? Million $ apartments there? Not exactly a high end real estate market.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-26-2021, 01:46 PM
Thank you, and yes I have.

I'm unaware of the situation being similar. Homeless yes. Subsidies? Million $ apartments there? Not exactly a high end real estate market.

I didn't watch the video. I read the title of the video: Bad Laws Cause Homeless Crisis. The Ocala Forest is known for its homeless population, which is a crisis to anyone who lives in the general vicinity. It's also a crisis to the homeless, but - homelessness is ALWAYS a crisis if you're the one who's homeless.

bobdeb
05-26-2021, 03:33 PM
I didn't watch the video. I read the title of the video: Bad Laws Cause Homeless Crisis.

I didn't write the title.

Perhaps bear a bit and watch the video and then draw a comparison to Ocala.

Many homeless go to San Francisco because, "it's a good place to hang out."

There are subsidies of food stamps, train tickets, $70 cash a month. No, I'm not against feeding the homeless.

Builders are handcuffed with laws from putting up affordable housing. That's essentially the law being addressed.

Crime (smash and grab with parked cars) and drugs are everywhere.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-26-2021, 04:06 PM
I didn't write the title.

Perhaps bear a bit and watch the video and then draw a comparison to Ocala.

Many homeless go to San Francisco because, "it's a good place to hang out."

There are subsidies of food stamps, train tickets, $70 cash a month. No, I'm not against feeding the homeless.

Builders are handcuffed with laws from putting up affordable housing. That's essentially the law being addressed.

Crime (smash and grab with parked cars) and drugs are everywhere.

What is "affordable housing" to someone with no income? How exactly will you bring someone up from homelessness, if they don't have a car, don't have a home, don't have a job - need a car to get to a job interview and then need a place to live either in walking distance or paying well enough to get them that car you need in Florida? And let's not forget the clothes you need, things like underwear and socks and a decent pair of shoes that actually fit. You need sanitary conditions - safe places to take a shower and go to the bathroom. You need basic minimal health care - things like de-lousing, pulling an abscessed tooth, antibiotics for a festering wound. You need a hair cut, toothpaste, deodorant, tampons for menstruating women...

The only way homeless people can GET those things, is if someone GIVES it to them. They can't just wake up some day and say "hey I'm gonna start working at Publix, they need help and that help will be me!" and show up in their two-week-stale clothes that don't fit, teeth that haven't seen a dentist since 1980, hair that hasn't seen shampoo in almost that long, after walking 10 miles in 80-degree weather to get there and smelling as ripe as a rotting corpse...

No. Without people GIVING them things, they will not be ABLE to get out of the situation they're in.

So what exactly are YOU doing to get them out of those situations?

Bruce3055
05-26-2021, 05:11 PM
I didn't write the title.

Perhaps bear a bit and watch the video and then draw a comparison to Ocala.

Many homeless go to San Francisco because, "it's a good place to hang out."

There are subsidies of food stamps, train tickets, $70 cash a month. No, I'm not against feeding the homeless.

Builders are handcuffed with laws from putting up affordable housing. That's essentially the law being addressed.

Crime (smash and grab with parked cars) and drugs are everywhere.

I don't believe you're saying $70/month cash is excess
ive. one day in jail probably costs the tax payer more than $70

RICH1
05-26-2021, 05:32 PM
Sorry coming to city near you:boom:
Asheville, NC is Spending 10 Million dollars on Hotel Rooms for Homeless.... yes 10 million.... and they will not turn anyone away if they are on drugs or selling drugs from the hotel room... the world has gone crazy

bobdeb
05-26-2021, 05:47 PM
Asheville, NC is Spending 10 Million dollars on Hotel Rooms for Homeless.... yes 10 million.... and they will not turn anyone away if they are on drugs or selling drugs from the hotel room... the world has gone crazy

I've seen large numbers of homeless in San Diego. That's just over the Mexican border.

Do not many/most illegals entering the US from Mexico become homeless?

bobdeb
05-26-2021, 06:00 PM
I'm drawn to a famous John Adams' quote. Patriot, and our 2nd US President.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

larbud
05-27-2021, 08:28 PM
The problem began with giving,It always turns people into useless takers...Oh this is easy til it’s not..