Red Fox/Gray Fox H2O gone

[LieutenantEd]

Had not played Grey Fox Executive in a long time, observed the other day that all the water features are now just about dried up. Invasive plants of all types have taken over the entire length, width, and depth of designed areas on both courses. Other water features enroute from Rt.44 South look to be “topped off”. Wonder what happened as the Fenny Spring is close to those courses.:confused:

[stanley]

Had not played Grey Fox Executive in a long time, observed the other day that all the water features are now just about dried up. Invasive plants of all types have taken over the entire length, width, and depth of designed areas on both courses. Other water features enroute from Rt.44 South look to be “topped off”. Wonder what happened as the Fenny Spring is close to those courses.:confused:


Maybe very little rain has something to do with it? It's drying up on all the courses. According to future weather it looks like the rainy season will finally get here next week

[vintageogauge]

I'm not sure about the golf course ponds but they are taking water out of the ponds in Fenney and diverting it over to the new Hammocks of Fenney ponds which is BS as it's hard enough to maintain these ponds with drought conditions and irrigation without having the water diverted to another village. If the golf course ponds are empty or low they are probably also using the Fenney ponds to irrigate the courses which again is BS.

[Mortal1]

I'm not sure about the golf course ponds but they are taking water out of the ponds in Fenney and diverting it over to the new Hammocks of Fenney ponds which is BS as it's hard enough to maintain these ponds with drought conditions and irrigation without having the water diverted to another village. If the golf course ponds are empty or low they are probably also using the Fenney ponds to irrigate the courses which again is BS.

in those ponds are for...to water areas that need it. They aren't concerned about "maintaining ponds" as they are water retention areas for grass and other plants.

[vintageogauge]

in those ponds are for...to water areas that need it. They aren't concerned about "maintaining ponds" as they are water retention areas for grass and other plants.

I agree that they are for irrigation and we were told that when we bought a water lot also told they are not guaranteed to hold water. Taking water from a residential pond to irrigate a golf course was not part of the deal nor was transporting it to other villages just to fill there ponds to sell lots. I had the pond management guy come out and he gave me a song and dance stating that "HE WAS TOLD" that they pump out about 150,000 gallons each night and pump it back in the next morning. That is a crock as since he was here the pond has gone down daily and never went back up. This never happened until they started building Hammock.

[Bogie Shooter]

Come back the end of June with your worries.

[shut the front door]

I agree that they are for irrigation and we were told that when we bought a water lot also told they are not guaranteed to hold water. Taking water from a residential pond to irrigate a golf course was not part of the deal nor was transporting it to other villages just to fill there ponds to sell lots. I had the pond management guy come out and he gave me a song and dance stating that "HE WAS TOLD" that they pump out about 150,000 gallons each night and pump it back in the next morning. That is a crock as since he was here the pond has gone down daily and never went back up. This never happened until they started building Hammock.

Welcome to The Villages. I've noticed that 99.9% of your posts are defending your "area". And good for you, I'm not condemning you for that at all. But you are now experiencing what TV cares about and it is not you or any other homeowner. The new generation of devolopers do not give two toots about you. And the same thing you see about them deserting (screwing over) people in the north section will, or already is, happening to you.
Don't care to leave, I'm enjoying my life. But I also don't have my head in the sand or nose up an arse as far as the developer is concerned. I have to laugh at the nose up the arse crowd who say "look what he gave us". OMG, are you that stupid?
The developers didn't GIVE ANYTHING TO YOU! They made a killing off of you, and while you can enjoy the lifestyle, don't ever think for a second that the new generation won't screw you over for a dollar.
I live my great life with eyes wide open and my nose not planted in blind admiration. But that's why I retired at 50 and didn't have to count on a rich spouse to pay my way to TV.

[vintageogauge]

Welcome to The Villages. I've noticed that 99.9% of your posts are defending your "area". And good for you, I'm not condemning you for that at all. But you are now experiencing what TV cares about and it is not you or any other homeowner. The new generation of devolopers do not give two toots about you. And the same thing you see about them deserting (screwing over) people in the north section will, or already is, happening to you.
Don't care to leave, I'm enjoying my life. But I also don't have my head in the sand or nose up an arse as far as the developer is concerned. I have to laugh at the nose up the arse crowd who say "look what he gave us". OMG, are you that stupid?
The developers didn't GIVE ANYTHING TO YOU! They made a killing off of you, and while you can enjoy the lifestyle, don't ever think for a second that the new generation won't screw you over for a dollar.
I live my great life with eyes wide open and my nose not planted in blind admiration. But that's why I retired at 50 and didn't have to count on a rich spouse to pay my way to TV.

I too retired very early in life, a little oder than you at 55. One good thing the developers did for me was to give one hell of a deal on a new home when they first opened Fenney. True, a lot of my posts are defending the southern villages, defending the obvious uneducated posts and even lies that people put out there bashing us down here, most of them knew nothing about living here and a lot of them were never even down here. That bashing has finally slowed down as most now realize that this is the place to be and 30% of our residents moved here from the northern villages. I'm not happy with what is going on with pond management but the rainy season is coming and soon Hammock will be completed and their ponds will be filled so that they can be lowered to fill ponds in the next village south. Having this one complaint about what is going on in 4 years isn't too bad and for sure not bad enough to make me even consider not living here.

[joseppe]

Welcome to The Villages. I've noticed that 99.9% of your posts are defending your "area". And good for you, I'm not condemning you for that at all. But you are now experiencing what TV cares about and it is not you or any other homeowner. The new generation of devolopers do not give two toots about you. And the same thing you see about them deserting (screwing over) people in the north section will, or already is, happening to you.
Don't care to leave, I'm enjoying my life. But I also don't have my head in the sand or nose up an arse as far as the developer is concerned. I have to laugh at the nose up the arse crowd who say "look what he gave us". OMG, are you that stupid?
The developers didn't GIVE ANYTHING TO YOU! They made a killing off of you, and while you can enjoy the lifestyle, don't ever think for a second that the new generation won't screw you over for a dollar.
I live my great life with eyes wide open and my nose not planted in blind admiration. But that's why I retired at 50 and didn't have to count on a rich spouse to pay my way to TV.

Yep, you could always go to one of those other Retirement Communities where they only give you pickleball and a pool and they will make a smaller killing off of you and they will only screw you over for about 75 cents.

[Rwirish]

Most realize south of 44 is not where you want to be.

[banjobob]

Our retention pond was filled for three months and then they transferred the water somewhere in 3 days the pond was dry. Wondering if there is a map showing the interconnection of all the retention ponds?

[Kgcetm]

The water belongs to the developer and they allocate and use the water as they see fit. They can move it virtually anywhere in TV. After 5 inches of rain, things will be back to normal. This happens every year.

[Bogie Shooter]

Welcome to The Villages. I've noticed that 99.9% of your posts are defending your "area". And good for you, I'm not condemning you for that at all. But you are now experiencing what TV cares about and it is not you or any other homeowner. The new generation of devolopers do not give two toots about you. And the same thing you see about them deserting (screwing over) people in the north section will, or already is, happening to you.
Don't care to leave, I'm enjoying my life. But I also don't have my head in the sand or nose up an arse as far as the developer is concerned. I have to laugh at the nose up the arse crowd who say "look what he gave us". OMG, are you that stupid?
The developers didn't GIVE ANYTHING TO YOU! They made a killing off of you, and while you can enjoy the lifestyle, don't ever think for a second that the new generation won't screw you over for a dollar.
I live my great life with eyes wide open and my nose not planted in blind admiration. But that's why I retired at 50 and didn't have to count on a rich spouse to pay my way to TV.

Wow!

[Mohawksin]

Our retention pond was filled for three months and then they transferred the water somewhere in 3 days the pond was dry. Wondering if there is a map showing the interconnection of all the retention ponds?

Check the district's website


Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org)

[tuccillo]

Useful Maps (https://www.districtgov.org/maps.aspx)


Our retention pond was filled for three months and then they transferred the water somewhere in 3 days the pond was dry. Wondering if there is a map showing the interconnection of all the retention ponds?

[tuccillo]

Here are the District Property Managers:

VCDD District Property Management (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/District-Property-Management/district-property-management.aspx)

I'm not sure about the golf course ponds but they are taking water out of the ponds in Fenney and diverting it over to the new Hammocks of Fenney ponds which is BS as it's hard enough to maintain these ponds with drought conditions and irrigation without having the water diverted to another village. If the golf course ponds are empty or low they are probably also using the Fenney ponds to irrigate the courses which again is BS.

[vintageogauge]

The water belongs to the developer and they allocate and use the water as they see fit. They can move it virtually anywhere in TV. After 5 inches of rain, things will be back to normal. This happens every year.

Not true, I've lived on this pond for over 4 years and the transfer of water only started last summer when work began at Hammock, prior to that there was no problem so it does not happen every year.

[vintageogauge]

Here are the District Property Managers:

VCDD District Property Management (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/District-Property-Management/district-property-management.aspx)

Right, I've been waiting for two weeks for Bart Graham to call me regarding the issue, no luck hearing from him so far.

[tuccillo]

Send him e-mail and cc his boss.

I have found District Property Management to be responsive to the couple of times I have called them; my phone calls have been returned within one business day.

Right, I've been waiting for two weeks for Bart Graham to call me regarding the issue, no luck hearing from him so far.

[Nick B]

I too retired very early in life, a little oder than you at 55. One good thing the developers did for me was to give one hell of a deal on a new home when they first opened Fenney. True, a lot of my posts are defending the southern villages, defending the obvious uneducated posts and even lies that people put out there bashing us down here, most of them knew nothing about living here and a lot of them were never even down here. That bashing has finally slowed down as most now realize that this is the place to be and 30% of our residents moved here from the northern villages. I'm not happy with what is going on with pond management but the rainy season is coming and soon Hammock will be completed and their ponds will be filled so that they can be lowered to fill ponds in the next village south. Having this one complaint about what is going on in 4 years isn't too bad and for sure not bad enough to make me even consider not living here.
Got a deal? LOL.

[jimkerr]

It is dry right now, excessively dry, this is very normal in the villages. The rain will come and the ponds will fill up again. Just have patience my friend.

[kenoc7]

I too retired very early in life, a little oder than you at 55. One good thing the developers did for me was to give one hell of a deal on a new home when they first opened Fenney. True, a lot of my posts are defending the southern villages, defending the obvious uneducated posts and even lies that people put out there bashing us down here, most of them knew nothing about living here and a lot of them were never even down here. That bashing has finally slowed down as most now realize that this is the place to be and 30% of our residents moved here from the northern villages. I'm not happy with what is going on with pond management but the rainy season is coming and soon Hammock will be completed and their ponds will be filled so that they can be lowered to fill ponds in the next village south. Having this one complaint about what is going on in 4 years isn't too bad and for sure not bad enough to make me even consider not living here.
Complete rubbish - by far the best area in The Villages is the quiet, beautiful north end.

[vintageogauge]

Complete rubbish - by far the best area in The Villages is the quiet, beautiful north end.

Yes, that's why they are building apartments up there.

[omimom]

Just curious why those of you who chose to live in the southern villages did so. You have the gravel plant and the prison. I wonder if TV sales people mentioned that to prospective buyers. Notice also they don't seem to mention you all had to pay a bond. We bought up north because we wanted to be close to shopping, medical facilities, etc. and we liked the more mature landscaping. Also there was no bond on our home. Yes TV did tear down our closest pool, Hacienda Hills, and we were very angry about that. TV newest generation doesn't seem to care about what we want and they won't care about what you want either. The Suleiman family wanted to purchase the Hacienda Hills restaurant but TV wouldn't sell to them at a fair price. I understand the whole kitchen needed to be remodeled. I'm betting plans for the apartments had something to do with that. They can't even keep the town squares stores rented due to the percentage they take from the owners.

[Hape2Bhr]

Not true, I've lived on this pond for over 4 years and the transfer of water only started last summer when work began at Hammock, prior to that there was no problem so it does not happen every year.

Until now :MOJE_whot:

[asianthree]

Just curious why those of you who chose to live in the southern villages did so. You have the gravel plant and the prison. I wonder if TV sales people mentioned that to prospective buyers. Notice also they don't seem to mention you all had to pay a bond. We bought up north because we wanted to be close to shopping, medical facilities, etc. and we liked the more mature landscaping. Also there was no bond on our home. Yes TV did tear down our closest pool, Hacienda Hills, and we were very angry about that. TV newest generation doesn't seem to care about what we want and they won't care about what you want either. The Suleiman family wanted to purchase the Hacienda Hills restaurant but TV wouldn't sell to them at a fair price. I understand the whole kitchen needed to be remodeled. I'm betting plans for the apartments had something to do with that. They can't even keep the town squares stores rented due to the percentage they take from the owners.

I am guessing you have zero first hand knowledge of what reps told potential sellers, in the south. But who does know there are bonds? Didn’t you have a bond, and check for yourself what that means financially?

It’s usually the second question after price of home, but again the gens that are buying new, are informed on how they are spending money. However as a potential buyer, if you didn’t do diligence before spending money, you might want to ask someone to help with important decisions.

Bashing the new area, when you have very little knowledge is just old news. Nobody cares where anyone buys a house, or what others think, except the person doing the buying.

[stanley]

Funny where threads lead to.

[JMintzer]

The Fact Jack is the 30% figure was in the Daily Sun about a month ago when they were bragging up Sawgrass and other great amenities they are building in the south. No one has trashed you for not wanting to live down here however you are trashing the area in which we live and therefore you are getting defensive replies. You don't have to like the southern villages but no need to bash the area.

Isn't the Daily Sun routinely trashed for being a "mouthpiece for the developer"?

Could it be that they're throwing out that number to boost their own sales... Or not...

[graciegirl]

Y'all need to calm down. In about ten days we start the Hurricane season which means that at about four every afternoon we will get a lulu rain until DECEMBER.

[graciegirl]

Isn't the Daily Sun routinely trashed for being a "mouthpiece for the developer"?

Could it be that they're throwing out that number to boost their own sales... Or not...

Anyone with eyes can see how this place is beautiful and sought after. You can drive to the new areas and do it again in two weeks and SEE the growth. Now that the pandemic is over and people with sense are traveling again, they will be standing in line to buy here. You did. I did. We did and have always thought it was a wonderful decision.

The Villages Is One of the Fastest Growing Cities in America – 24/7 Wall St. (https://247wallst.com/city/the-villages-is-one-of-the-fastest-growing-cities-in-america/)

[tuccillo]

Not exactly. The rainy season is June, July, August, and September. The other eight months, including October and November, are substantially drier. November is actually the driest month. But, yes, the retention ponds will start filling up again once we get into June. Year-to-date we are below normal.

Y'all need to calm down. In about ten days we start the Hurricane season which means that at about four every afternoon we will get a lulu rain until DECEMBER.

[stan the man]

Y'all need to calm down. In about ten days we start the Hurricane season which means that at about four every afternoon we will get a lulu rain until DECEMBER.

Slow down have another glass of KOO-AID

[Marathon Man]

Complete rubbish - by far the best area in The Villages is the quiet, beautiful north end.

Quiet is ok. I prefer active, fun, and full of life. That's why we moved south.

[Marathon Man]

Just curious why those of you who chose to live in the southern villages did so. You have the gravel plant and the prison. I wonder if TV sales people mentioned that to prospective buyers. Notice also they don't seem to mention you all had to pay a bond. We bought up north because we wanted to be close to shopping, medical facilities, etc. and we liked the more mature landscaping. Also there was no bond on our home. Yes TV did tear down our closest pool, Hacienda Hills, and we were very angry about that. TV newest generation doesn't seem to care about what we want and they won't care about what you want either. The Suleiman family wanted to purchase the Hacienda Hills restaurant but TV wouldn't sell to them at a fair price. I understand the whole kitchen needed to be remodeled. I'm betting plans for the apartments had something to do with that. They can't even keep the town squares stores rented due to the percentage they take from the owners.

Maybe to move away from the kind of attitude displayed in the rest of the post??